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Official 2015 NFL Quarterback Rankings: Week 8 Edition

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1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Palmer
4. Dalton
5. Carr
6. Brees
7. Rivers
8. Manning, E
9. Hoyer
10. McCown, J
11. Wilson
12. Roethlisberger
13. Mariota
14. Ryan
15. Smith
16. Cutler
17. Tannehill
18. Fitzpatrick
19. Winston
20. Bridgewater
21. Cousins
22. Stafford
23. Flacco
24. Bortles
25. Foles
26. Kaepernick
27. Manuel
28. Newton
29. Bradford
30. Luck
31. Manning, P
32. Cassel

Source: http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating
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>>63293853
>brees 6th
Nice meme
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>>63293853
>5. Carr
Al I hope you are watching you fucking lovable bastard
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>>63293853
Congratulations on being wrong about almost every single one of these.
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>hoyer 10
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>>63293925
Blame ESPN if you don't like these rankings.
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>>63293925
It is objectively correct though, it's just a list sorted by passer rating.
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>>63293907
>implying Al didn't pick him

Al Davis merely realized that his human body was breaking down and becoming weak. His spirit was still hearty and hale, but his flesh and blood was failing him, hence why he went senile towards the end.

However, Davis performed an elaborate ritual that transformed him into a malevolent spirit that is now perpetually tied to the Raiders. He is essentially a ghost lord, and since he no longer has an old man's brain, he is once again the vicious, competent Al Davis of yore.

His crypt is ensconced in the bowels of the Oakland Coliseum. Why do you think they haven't been able to leave?
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Rodgers is better than Brady

Brady can only make short-to-intermediate passes. No mobility, no deep ball, no ability to evade the pass rush

Rodgers can literally do everything

>inb4 hurr durr but Rodgers lost
you try beating the best defense in the league when your receivers cant get separation for shit and the offensive line eats a giant dick and eddie lacy somehow got even fatter and your defense is about as effective as a wet paper bag
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>>63293996
>al is secretly summoned through a mix of jewish/mexican voodoo every year
>he gives reggie , mark and now jack tips now with a healthier ghostly mind
>they just started this practice two years ago
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>>63294032
But Rodgers isn't clutch at all. That's one thing Brady has over him.
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>>63294032

GB's defense was number 1 going into the game idiot
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>>63293853

>28. Newton

i was gonna get mad at this list and shitpost till i realized


>6. Brees
>7. Rivers
>8. Manning, E
>9. Hoyer
>10. McCown, J

> all under .500


just keep winning games game..just keep winning...
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>>63294153
so? they got dumpstered to the tune of 29 points
they may have been good up until that game but against the Broncos they were worthless
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>>63294160
Cam is the 28th best QB in passer rating in the country among the starting QBs of week 8 though. I don't think it accounts for tonight's game though or it would be lower.
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>>63294032

>No mobility, no deep ball, no ability to evade the pass rush

Literally the most wrong post of all time. Actually watch games sometime instead of getting your facts from the ESPN Facebook comment section.
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>>63293853
>5. Carr

TYBC
Y B
B Y
CBYT
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>>63294201
And an addendum, he is a pretty decent running back this year though, I'll give you that. If this was a quarterback + running back ranking he'd definitely be top 20.
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>>63294032

>brady
>best pocket presence/movement in the league
>no ability to evade pass rush

I'll give you the other two, but even those are iffy. Pretty much kill yourself.
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>>63293853
It's just a list by passer rating.

>9. Hoyer

It's easy to have a good rating when you're playing against a prevent defense for half the game.
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>>63294336
This, Rivers would be like #20 or something if you take out all 4th quarter garbage time against prevent.
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>Rodgers does absolutely terrible
>#2

I'll take it
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Burger, Ryan, Fitzpatrick, Bortles, Flacco, PeyPey and especially Luck need a boost. I'd put Burger just ahead of Eli, given Iggles game. Ryan would be right behind Eli, Fitzpatrick would be right behind Ryan, y'know what, stop overrating black QBs, you sjw kek
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>>63294765
You do know that OP didn't make this list right?
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>>63294032
His offensive line had some amazing protection for him early in the game. I saw a few 6 second pockets. Idk about later, but your post is pretty shitty. Brady puts the ball where it has to go to get the yards to win, so le mobility men, le into triple coverage men, and le broken plays men can do their thing while the patriots probably (and you know this is absolutely true) at least make the afcc this year and also have a good shot of making the owl.
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Imagine if Wilson had an NFL oline

I remember the huge knock against him coming out of Wisconsin was that his line was bigger than most NFL lines. Now he's on pace to being the most sacked QB this year.
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>brees 6th

The fuck?

How is he not 1st or 2nd this week? He put on about the best QB game possible in 4 quarters.
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>>63295097
The whole point of wilson is getting by without an oline.
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>>63293853
How many of you can associate every QB with a team?

I failed with
9,10, 14, 15, 27, 32

Dammit Cassel sounds so familiar
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Would Stafford be higher if he had a competent o-line?
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>>63294032
>77 yards
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>>63293853
>32. Cassel
i refuse this abuse. don't hassle the cassel
top 6
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>>63295232
No, Stafford would be higher if he didn't suck.
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>>63295186
>Ryan
>Smith

M8...
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>>63295265
He's a non-American, can you blame him?
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pretty good list to be completely honest about it
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>>63294032
Why do Rodgersfags always shit talk the entire team to avoid placing any blame on their babby QB? It feels like unless the entire unit is performing at an All Pro level it's going to be called "the worst in the league" when the slightest thing goes wrong. Especially the offensive line, there were plays were Rodgers had 6+ seconds to make a throw and he still couldn't pick anyone out. You can't expect your line to hold off Ware and Miller for that long on every single play. Just watch how Brady plays, 4 players on his line are either rookies or 3rd stringers and they're getting demolished in almost every game and instead of holding on to the ball forever and expecting not to get crushed he just dumps it off after 2 seconds
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>>63294032
Brady played the Jets when they were the number 1 defense against the pass and threw for almost 400 yards, and was the teams leading rusher.
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>>63294160
Saints are .500

faggot
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>>63296604
They're following the playbook Peyton and his fans have been using for 15 years.
It was the coaches! The oline had some issues! It was the idiot kicker! The scoreboard operator put me off!
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>>63297196
You know how it works.
Brady throws 400 yards against #1 D is proof they were shit all along.
Rodgers throws for shit against #1 D is proof they are incredible and Aaron did incredibly to even reach 77 yards.
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>>63297196
Brady has weapons like Gronk, Amendola, Edelman, and LaFell who all reliably get separation and pile up YAC like nobody's business
Rodgers has jack shit. He's been putting up MVP-caliber numbers throwing to literal whos
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>>63294160
Saints are .500 and they're hot

Shouldn't your mom be getting you dressed for school?
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>>63293853
>28. Newton
>30. Luck

lel
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>>63297287
>muh YAC
58% of Rodgers' yards this season have been YAC while YAC account for 50% of Brady's yards.

And I love how after the Chiefs game no one even mentioned how Cobb scored 3 TDs through yards after catch after dump offs caught at the line of scrimmage, it was all muh Godgers best ever back then but now that something has gone wrong Cobb is a faggot who can not get open, catch or get yards after catch and poor Aaron is doing the best he can with literally the worst team in history of football. Because it can not possibly be partly his fault.
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>>63297287
>He's been putting up MVP-caliber numbers throwing to literal whos
>MVP-caliber numbers
>25th in yards per game
>T6th in TDs
>13th in yards per attempt
>9th in completion %
>MVP-caliber numbers
more like borderline elite quarterback numbers
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>>63293957
>E!SPN

Well there's your problem
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OFFICIAL 2015 NFL QB POWER RANKINGS (NO BULLSHIT QBR GARBAGE):
1. Tom Brady
2. Andy Dalton
3. Carson Palmer
4. Cam Newton
5. Derek Carr
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(tier gap - tryhards, YAC-babbies, and stat padding babbies below)
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91. Aaron Rodgers
92. Drew Brees
93. Philip Rivers
94. ELIte
95. Big Ben
96. Assorted no namers and up and comers like Bridgewater, Hoyer, McCown, etc.
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(tier gap - Canadian-league tier QBs below)
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901. Captain Kirk
902. Russell Wilson
903. Peyton Manning
904. Matt Ryan
905. Irrelevant game managers and generic fodder QBs
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(tier gap - Mariana Trench - QBs this bad not before witnessed in nature)
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9001. Nick Foles
9002. Matthew Stafford
9003. All remaining meme QBs
9004. Joe Flacco
9005. Andrew Luck
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bortles has legit not been that bad this year
i was almost certain he was a bust
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>rodgers second

lol nope
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>>63297418
Now you're working with memes
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>2. Rodgers
>77 yards
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>>63293853
There's so many terrible QB's on that list.

Literally everyone from #9 on down is fucking awful. Though, Ben gets a pass for being injured.
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>>63300767
>Wilson
>Ryan
>Tannehill
>Bridgewater
>Bortles
>Winston

Yeah man, all totally awful lol
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>>63301676
Mediocre is the proper term
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>>63301676
All those you listed are awful/Runningback babbies.
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Should cam Newton win the MVP. He just wins.
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>>63293996

>spirit
>implying an immaterial entity can add energy to a closed system
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>>63297287
And do you know WHY Patriots recievers get such good YAC? Because Brady's timing and accuracy are so good that he can throw players open.
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>>63304468
This, the only time they ever get BTFO is by safeties over the middle on long down age situations

Papa John has no regard for the life of his receivers with those shit ducks
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>>63304468
I just don't get how Gronk gets wide open on some plays
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>>63293853
HAHA wilson at 11. how mad does he make your kek ass? hes top 10
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>>63307999
He's an athletic game manager at best. Little more than an Alex Smith who can run.
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>>63307917
They run the classic "let's not cover the best TE in the league" zone defense.
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>>63293853
Why is Bridgewater higher than Bortles when Bortles has thrown almost three times as many touchdowns and only three more interceptions
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>>63308059
>Little more than an Alex Smith who can run.
haha you are fucking stupid. if he had an oline he would be a top 5 qb. alex smith is trash compared to wilson. let me know when smith gets to the Superbowl two years in a row
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>>63308107
When Smith has the top running back in the game to do all the actual work and the #1 D in the league, he probably will.
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>>63308132
wilson has been great every year he has played. sure lynch is good but half of it is due to wilson and the read option. lynch would not be as good if you stuck a peyton manning back there who couldnt run for shit. you are buttmad or stupid if you dont think wilson is good. go look at his stats from his rookie year and on, he shits on pretty much everyone during those times
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>>63308252
Wilson sucks, any QB will have good stats if he only has to throw 15 times per game
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>>63293996
the raiders are literally 100% winning the Al Davis way

they have a QB with a cannon for an arm and meme athletes all over the offense
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>>63308330
he averages 30 attempts a game you dumb nigger stay mad
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>>63308098
because bortles makes it a point to throw back-breaking pick-6s on a weekly basis
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>>63308380
>give Wilson an elite weapon and ask him to do more
>he sucks and throws a bunch of stupid picks
wow who saw this coming?
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>>63308571
>ask him to do more
DO YOU KNOW WHO BEVELL IS?

srs though if you watched the last game he hit graham a few times all for a first down or good amount of yds. wilson (the tight end) is pretty good too and when graham gets raped in coverage he will be open. like how he scored the td last game, no one cares to cover him.
trust me i wish they would use graham more because that would open doors for dragons and runs. its the same shit trying to run it up the gut 10 times and never going for the read option or play action. they dont set up plays like they should
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>Brady getting respect

This actually scares me ESPN usually lives in denial until Brady assfucks their media darling QB's
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>>63293853
>13 Mariota
>hasn't played in two weeks
>has had literally one good game all season
>fumble losing machine
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>>63297225

this
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Here is a fun fact Tom Brady faces a #1 defence at least once a year and wins every time.
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>>63307917
Typically when gronk gets that wide open it is becuase the Patriots keep him on edge blocking for the entire first half of games and then after giving the defense enough looks of gronk lined up to stop the edge rush, they will have him run out of it down the seam. The defense sees him shift inside to pass protect/run block and assume it is the same case, and he is able to run uncovered into the middle of the field.
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Patriots fans are slowly approaching 12s levels of annoying.
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>>63301676
>>63297418

Not bad
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Holy shit Brian Hoyer actually has 13 TDs and only 3 Ints what the fuck is this?
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>>63310849
He wants to be Derek Carr super bad.
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>>63310849
3 good games vs the jags, titans and colts and 3 garbage time stat padding sessions vs the falcons, chiefs and dolphins

it looks good on paper, but watch the actual games and he's terrible when defenses actually play
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>>63310932
and >>63310932 I hope you mean 2014 Derek Carr, this year Carr is putting up like 80% of his stats in the first half for most games now
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>>63297225
Did any of y'all actually watch the game? Even when Rodgers danced around for 7 seconds the receivers had zero separation for the entire time
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>>63308384
And Bridgewater makes it a point to limit his entire passing game before the sticks.

I'm not saying Bortles is great but only a retard would take a solid game manager over a budding game changer like Bortles.
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>>63311691
But Rodgers fans always say that he never had any good receivers, he just made them look good (Jennings, James Jones etc). So why doesn't he make Cobb and Adams look good now?
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>>63311767
why are carr fags so obsessed with bridgewater
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>>63311843
>Implying Carrfags and Bortfags don't make valid points about Shitwater

Shitwater won't throw for more than 15 TDs in a season playing the way he does. He's a game manager, at best.
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>>63311822
Difference being they weren't as injured back then plus they don't have a good burner atm to stretch the field. Also Rodgers played poorly on Sun and threw like 4 bad passes: over cobb, ahead of rodgers, low to lacy, and maybe a couple more. He got pressured on like 63% of snaps which is like a career high. It's difficult to throw into tight coverage with a dlineman in your face
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>Rodgers is under .500 playing against teams that are above .500
>completely home babby
>playoff choker
>stat padder against shit teams
>disappears against good teams
>disappears when he loses an elite receiver
>really really likes getting hurt at key points every season

can we stop pretending that Rodgers is in the same tier as Brady and Manning?

he's more like Brees: overrated by fantasy kiddies
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>Bradyfags this mad that Rodgers is and always will be better than their checkdownbabby

stay eternally buttblasted faggots
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>>63311959
Imagine the butthurt when he comes to Oakland in December and not only gets blown the fuck out by Carr, but makes DJ Hayden look like a pro bowler.
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>>63311959
I always wondered why that is. Firstly it seems that GBs scheme is weak against good defenses. Second Rodgers hates throwing into coverage. Since the scheme is shit the receivers don't het open so Rodgers doesn't throw to them
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>>63309501
I remember the pats loosing to Seattle a couple years ago. Brady got a solid keking from Sherman.
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>>63294160
Giants are 4-4
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>>63312005
>Rodgers against the Seahawks in the playoffs
>170 yds 1 TD 2 INTs
>despite having 5 turnovers gifting him amazing field position every drive

>Brady against the Seahawks in the playoffs 2 weeks later
>330 yds 4 TDs 2 INTs
>despite having no turnovers gifted until the last 20 seconds
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>>63294160
Having 11 interceptions and a qbr of 44 makes newton a shit QB senpai.
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>>63312120
>Brady against Aaron Rodgers: 0-1
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>>63312120
>Godgers
>could barely walk, but played anyways against a 100% Seattle defense @SEA

>Timmy boy
>full health
>Seahawks D banged up and questionable leading up and were dropping like flies throughout the game
>was finally able to take of advantage of that by the 4th to squeak out a win

Gee...
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>>63312283
>77 yards
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>>63312005
>Brady is a checkdownbabby
>50% of Brady's total yards are YAC (58% for Rodgers)
>higher ypa on more attempts than Rodgers
>yfw le ebin dragonmaster Godgers is 25th in the league in yards per game
>
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>>63312308
why is Rodgers so soft?
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>>63310380
Yeah, but from the other direction.
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New to this board after playing fantasy this season. Why does everyone here think Brady is far and away superior to Peyton?

As far as I see it Brady has won more but Peyton changed fundamentally the game quarterbacks command.
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>>63312316
>Rodgers posted this
>he has a bigger dick than me
WHY
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>>63312428
because Brady is better against good teams than Peyton, has better stats if you correct for dome vs outdoors, has 3 more rings
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>>63312428
Peyton changed the game by bitching to the league that Ty Law is mean to his WRs and it shouldn't be allowed.

Also if you look at their regular season stats (I'm pretty sure 99% of people would say Peyton's are better if they had to guess) you'd notice that over the course of their career's Peyton has thrown for like 4% more yards per game, 5% more TDs per game but 40% more INTs per game. Brady is simply better
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>>63312005
>I'm so assblasted that brady can throw more 77 yards a game
>I'm so assblasted that brady is currently on pace to set the record for total yards
>I'm so assblasted that brady's TD/INT is currently 20/1, and the only 1 being a muffed catch to the chest

yup, got me there.
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>>63304054
we get it you took intro to thermo
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>>63312523
>40% more

Stop being a fucking bandwagon retard

Why do dumbass Brits like you even watch football?
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>>63293853
>QBR
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>>63312714
>geolocation being the premise for sports interest
please stop being a kek, familia
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>>63312428
Does somebody have the pic of peytons seasons? Pretty sure that says it all.
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>>63312542
>i-it wasn't his fault
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>>63312759
i bet you watch soccer too faggot
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>>63312714
Tom Brady has thrown 144 INTs in 216 games played. That's 0.67 INT per game

Peyton Manning has thrown 245 INTs in 263 games played. That's 0.93 INT per game

So Manning throws 0.26 INT per game more than Brady.

0.26/0.67= ~0.39

I admit I was wrong, Manning throws 39% more INTs per game than Brady, not 40%
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>>63308107

A top 5 q would never throw a pick on the goal line to lose the Super Bowl. Not only that, but on a play that is nearly impossible to fuck up.
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>>63312316

How big is that?
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>>63312831
eh, i watch the world cup. so no, not really.

are you a colts fan?
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>>63312834
Carr has thrown 15 INTs in 23 games played.

That's 0.65 INTs per game.

Carr > Brady > Peyton.
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>>63312930
>disagree with facts
>get proven wrong with facts
>resort to moving the goalposts and bringing up something completely irrelevant
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>>63312834
instead of rounding do this:

((245/263) / (144/216)) - 1 = 0.39733840304

Close enough to 40%
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>>63312834
BTFO
T
F
O
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>>63313041
I'm not even the guy you're arguing with.
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>>63295186
I think everyone can associate almost all of them with a team.
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>>63313131
you still moved the goalposts and brought up irrelevant information. Kind of like saying you aren't the same poster. It was also irrelevant and didn't make you any less wrong
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>>63313629
just saying that picking a stat like TD/INT % is garbage because a lot of shitty players like Carr have better stats and you are just picking a category that Brady beats Peyton at whereas Peyton beats Brady in almost every other stat
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>>63314660
The original point was that Peyton has a slight advantage over Brady in yards and TDs but at a cost of throwing a shitload of INTs more which runs against the common narrative that Peyton's regular season stats blow Brady's out of the water
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>>63295097
the whole point of having wilson is that he can function without an o-line

he would do better if he had better receivers, other than jimmy graham who hasnt been open much, he is literally throwing to CFL level WR's
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rodgers should be 5th or 6th
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>>63319312
One bad game against the #1 defense doesn't suddenly drop you from solidly #2 to #5 or #6. No one else is even close to him at #2 honestly.
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>>63322633
>77 yards
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>>63322679
>#1 defense

What are Brady's stats against #1 defenses this year? Or Brees, Carr, Dalton and Palmer for that matter?
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>>63328923
Flacco: 18/32 118 yards 3.7 YPA 0 TD 2 INT 38.2 rating
Smith: 16/25 191 yards 7.6 YPA 0 TD 2 INT 53.9 rating
Stafford: 31/45 282 yards 6.3 YPA 1 TD 2 INT 74.5 rating
Bridgewater: 27/41 269 yards 6.6 YPA 1 TD 0 INT 92.4 rating
Carr: 26/39 249 yards 6.4 YPA 1 TD 1 INT 82.1 rating
McCown: 20/39 213 yards 5.5 YPA 2 TD 2 INT 63.3 rating
>Rodgers: 14/22 77 yards 3.5 TPA 0 TD 0 INT 69.7 rating

Pretty sure Rodgers had the shittiest showing vs the Broncos so far all year
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>>63328923
>what are Brady's stats against #1 defenses?

You fuckin serious lol he BTFO the Bills and the Jets when they were the #1 defense in the league. Brady destroys #1 Ds, Rodgers shrinks
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>>63310380
>slowly
they've been here forever
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