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Ivan Zelich, 17 years old boy, has done something groundbreaking

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Ivan Zelich, 17 years old boy, has done something groundbreaking and his discovery is going to change the world drastically. This kid is the real deal, not Jacob Meme.
What are your achievements math guys? Shitposting on /sci/?
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Here's the article
>daily mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3304659/Schoolboy-genius-17-develops-maths-theory-calculates-problems-faster-COMPUTER-idea-did-it.html
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>What are your achievements math guys?

I made it out of the hood, nigga
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>Jacob meme
Lol. Butthurt you'll never have an IQ that high, OP? Its alright, maybe people smarter than you will discover a way to cope with living as a dummy :)
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>>7641429
do you really think it's a more importantachievement than the invention of the clock ?
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>>7641434
LOOK MA, I'M SHITPOSTING!
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>calculates problems faster than a computer
Who writes this shit?
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>>7641439
It's daily mail, what would you expect?
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>>7641436
> IQ envy strikes again
there there
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>>7641441
Having high IQ doesn't automatically make you an inventor. Admit it, he hasn't done shit. There are a shit loads of people out there with lower IQs but have done 100 times more than him.
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>>7641440
At least some basic understanding of what calculating means in an article about math.
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this thread is going places
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>>7641442
citation needed
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>>7641445
I laughed
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>and developed a maths theorem that calculates problems faster than a computer

oh my god
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low IQ tards are so easily triggered lol.
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>>7641459
Please stop Jacob, you are embarrass yourself.
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>>7641459
Go to your room jacob.
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>>7641463
>>7641461
Sorry, I got a be at some tv program and shake hands with a scientist. Feels good to be smart :^)
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>>7641465
>shake hands with a scientist
Probably Black Science Man.
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I looked at the paper they posted and its just shit euclidian geometry with no applications to be found. The paper is shit too.
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>While working on his theorem he would wake up, run 10km every morning and go to school - working all day to find the theorem – his mind still ticking over while he ran and scribbling notes during class. He averaged three hours of sleep a night in the last months

>The all-round achiever has also been a state champion swimmer, speaks six languages, is completing his diploma as a pianist and represented Queensland in chess at the Nationals.
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>At the age of 14, Ivan travelled to England to give a presentation at the Wolfram Mathematica Conference to challenge the concept that pi is equal to 3.14 – suggesting instead that pi is infinite.
Wait what?
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>>7641435
One of my Indian friends went around with a NASA shirt on this Halloween...

He told everyone he was the inventor of the clock, and the 5 people who actually got the joke, loved it. I didn't expect him to do that because he's more conservative, but it was hilarious to me.
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>>7641429
>The main and most important application will be in understanding the structures in the universe.
>It will basically serve as a branch of string theory
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If he wasn't this handsome - no one would give a fuck
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>>7641666
The best explanation I have is that it's a joke.
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>>7641674
>baby Lubos
>handsome
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>>7641443
>>7641439
Should not having a fucking clue what you're talking about be considered a breach of journalistic ethics?
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>>7641652
Pretty much this; my mother always sends me these shit articles because, "LEL MY SON'S A MATHEMATICIAN HAHAHAHA," and I found the actual paper and sent it to her with explanations as to why a 22-page paper with rather few proofs and some moderately interesting statements didn't really constitute a world-changing paper, and how overblown it had been by the article.

But, the everyman will always cling to whatever words his patron media god speaks into his ear.
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>>7641745
> But, the everyman will always
> cling to whatever words his patron
> media god speaks into his ear.
So the Daily Mail is your mother's patron media god?
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>>7641734
Go write them a letter if you want to get the woman fired.
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>>7641763
Essentially, yup.
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>>7641734
>implying 99% of journalists wouldn't lose their jobs
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>gave a presentation that pi is not 3.14 but infact infinite

does this mean pi has an infinite decimal expansion or the value of pi is infinite? if it's the former, wasn't that already known?
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>>7641652
>>7641671
>>7641745

WEW FUCKING PREDICTABLE /SCI/ IS TRASHING THE PAPER EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HOLD A CANDLE TO THIS GUY'S MATHS ABILITY.
Drop the superiority complex guys it's really not healthy. Yes there are people much smarter than you, yes you will likely never achieve anything significant in your own life because you are mediocre compared to actual academics, attacking those who achieve more than you won't change these facts. This entiere thread and board in factjust reeks at bitterness at being a "self styled genius" yet "for some reason", nobody else outside of maybe your family or first year calculus class sees you that way. Newsflash, just because you're the smartest guy in your class or whatever doesn't mean you're actually smart. Big fish in a small pond.
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>>7641837
Maybe read the paper before actually defending it? It wasn't terrible, but this article blows it out of proportion.
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>>7641837
>those who achieve more
>publishing a paper that may have some arbitary application in STRING THEORY
top kek
how the hell anyone can be so emotionally invested in defending the child-prodigy-of-the-month
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>>7641855
>>7641858
My point is it's still way beyond anything you can do or ever has done so shut up.
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>>7641926
Well that's false, but I don't expect much from a Lebanese glass blowing mailing list.
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I hate that guy.
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>>7641926
>projecting this hard
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>>7641666
Real numbers are infinite sets of rational numbers.
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>>7641686
>>baby Lubos
HOLY SHIT
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That was the dumbest article about a boy genius I've ever read.
How does one argue that Pi is not 3.14 but infinite instead???
>infinite
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>>7641442
>he hasn't done shit

It's time to stop posting.
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>>7641978
If you had an IQ over 314 you would understand.
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>>7641978
Our current definition of pi is a social construct
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>>7641429
He has done nothing, he will be forgotten in 1 week.
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>>7641670
Kek
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>>7642147
The decimal notation is a social construct but I don't think the trigonometric concept it very social.
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>>7642511
Actually believing that circles exist
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>>7642516
I'm not refuting the constructed part.
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>>7641780
No I wasn't

We need to clear them all out from top to bottom. Es ist Zeit für Rache!
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Can anyone say what the theorem is about?
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>>7642544
Calculating faster than a computer.
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>>7642544
>>7642548
once you understand it it hacks you brain so its like a super computer then you can calculate faster than computers
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>>7642575
If you give the computer the thereom will it explode?
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>>7642587
That's when the Matrix happens.
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>>7642587
It would be extremely painful.
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>>7641670
>I didn't expect him to do that because he's more conservative,
>Not expecting a conservative to shit on muslim every chance they get.

nigga you high?
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>>7641429
>tfw Xuming Liang was the real genius behind the Liang Zelich Theorem.

My guess is this Ivan guy just attached himself to Xuming's work and hyped it up well beyond the point of no return by telling everyone it would change the world with applications in teleportation, string theory, and other ridiculous shit.

>Fortunately, he and Xuming – a 17-year-old from San Diego he met in an online forum - could share the workload, with Ivan working throughout the day and his American counterpart taking over while the Australian slept.

>Ivan said: ‘Xuming was on a maths forum and I sent him the first message which said “nice solution but you can improve on it”.

>‘He was the only person I could find who I connected with mathematically.

>'I found out we were both working on the same problem at the same time but he was more geared towards one side of the geometry and I was more geared towards the algebraic and string theory side.

Almost the entire article is about Ivan. There's only a short blurb about Xuming at the very end.

>Despite his obvious gift for math, Xuming has played down his talents, saying he is 'medicore' at other subjects.

...

>'I hope to apply whatever skills I've developed over these years to pass on to future generations and help better the world.

>'As for interests, I also enjoy contemplating about the human mind and other psychological concepts.

>'Making some sort of a positive contribution to the world would be on the top of my list, as simple as that sounds.

>'Whether it's in math, or personal charity, I don't know yet, but it will always be a driving goal.'

>Asked if he felt like a genius, he added: ‘Not really, I always have areas in life that I desire to improve.'

Xuming sounds totally down to Earth. Whereas Ivan sounds totally schizophrenic. What's the deal?
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>>7643207
you're a big guy
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>>7643231
fuh yew
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>>7641431
>slavshit is australian
>chink is american
wtf has the world come to

>>7643215
Not conservatives in Muslim countries. He's probably from a mudshark country too.
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>>7641429
http://www.academia.edu/10730921/Generalizations_of_the_properties_of_Neuberg_cubic_to_the_Euler_pencil_of_isopivotal_cubics

Here's the paper itself.
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>/sci/ shitting on him

stay mad betafags. Who cares that a 17 year old's paper hasn't changed the world. Implying that he will amount to nothing is obviously false.

How many of you guys had the opportunity to go to uni at 14? None? Rightttt
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>>7643278
Considering the standards that Universities operate at these days, going to Uni at 14 doesn't really mean much. Kind of like a Black doctor. His GPA was likely a solid point below his White and Asian peers. Personally, that frightens me a bit.
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>>7643226
I agree, Ivan sounds like a braggart and a credit stealing asshole.
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>>7641429

>When applied, the maths theorem calculates answers faster than a computer

>‘At another school my teachers didn’t like that I had a higher IQ and didn’t support me,’ he told Daily Mail Australia.

>At the age of 14, Ivan travelled to England to give a presentation at the Wolfram Mathematica Conference to challenge the concept that pi is equal to 3.14 – suggesting instead that pi is infinite.
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>>7641429
I started showering daily.
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>>7643238
>India
>Muslim

While there is an Islamic population in India the majority of the nation is Hindu and they hate Muslims on a level comparable to Amerifags.
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>>7643238
Back to >>>/pol/ you degenerate underling.
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>>7643369
shut the fuck up with your "muh sekret club" kiddy fights
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>>7643372
Make me
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>>7643372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8pvD_4Pd1A
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>>7642511
Nah, just that we call it pi. We could call it ö instead and pi could be 42 instead.
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>At the age of 14, Ivan travelled to England to give a presentation at the Wolfram Mathematica Conference to challenge the concept that pi is equal to 3.14 – suggesting instead that pi is infinite.
I'd love to see his slides, because daily mail probably fucked up this line
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>>7643238

>>7643369

Poltards are actually liberals pretending to be conservatives and shitposting to try to alienate people from conservative and nationalist ideas.
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>>7643238
>Whites are any more native to America and Australia than Asians and Slavs are
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Ahahah mediocore
He said he's mediocore wtf is that lol

On a more serious note I think media fucked this up. "Calculates faster than a computer" = ????!?!??!???!?#+(#$?$??!?????? What kind of bullshit is that? The article sucked balls, didn't say shit about what its about at all. Seems like a fucking clickbait and OP fell for it.
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What the hell did he even invent anyways? Is it released publicly?
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>>7643238
I thought /pol/ like slavs because BASED PUTIN will save us from HOMOSEXUAL RADIATION
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>>7643459
But just like with the republican party in america, satire gets taken seriously.
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>>7643457
http://www.academia.edu/1611664/Sum_of_an_Infinite_sequence_PAPER
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What board did these two guys meet at?
Any anon know?
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>>7641429
He has the same sort of face as the Ethereum lead. Russia made contact with benevolent Ayylums?
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>>7641452
kek
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>>7641429
Who gives a fuck about math
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>>7641429
ivan meme
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Litarally gibberish. Absolutely no connection to the real world.

Popsci.
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>>7644161
4chan sci
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Is this the worst thread on /sci/?
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>>7641429
'I found out we were both working on the same problem at the same time but he was more geared towards one side of the geometry and I was more geared towards the algebraic and string theory side.'
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>>7644527
"The asian dude did all the work while I chill'd and netflix'd"
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>>7644275
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>>7641666
Holy fuck, my friend in the 7th grade did that. Said "Pi is equal to infinity because the digits go on forever". Literally did it only to fuck with teachers. The sad part is that they still agreed with him even when I said "3.anything is still less then 4".
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>>7644123
Thank you for this discovery, I've just read the slides and there are a lot of things to laugh about. Two examples: firstly the fact that he is using the Weierstrass factorization theorem as if it was a trivial result, and secondly (the most funny) he thinks that k*sin(1/k) tends to infinity when k tends to infinity (so that pi equals to infinity). Without this dumb error, he would have found that pi = pi/2 (because he made a mistake in his previous calculations). So if he was making such enormous mistakes in 2012, I don't really see how he would revolutionise mathematics in 2015.
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http://ijgeometry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/1.pdf
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>is it something impressive
yes
>is it something I could not do
yes
>is it something groundbreaking
no
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Question about his proof on pi=infinity:
If you take the limit of k->infinity in the final step of the proof, won't you obtain infinity*0? Applying l'Hôpital's rule for ill defined limits we obtain pi=180. Last time I checked this is pretty much true.
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>>7644970
No, l'Hoptial gives us sin(1/x)*x = sin(1/x) / (1/x) for x->infinity is equal to sin(t) / t for t->0. Now l'Hopital: cos(t)/1 for t->0 gives us 1 as a result. so he actually claims pi/2=pi. KEK
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>>7641670
Kekd
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>>7644595
3.9... isn't less than 4
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>>7641810

If you consider the circumference of a circle to have a larger fractal dimension than its diameter then yeah, the ratio is infinite.
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>>7645515
3.14159... is.
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>>7644595

It's amazing how many people can't grasp the basic concept that is infinite values and infinite expressions are two separate entities.
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>>7641436
OP started it!
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Even plebbit thinks he's a fraud

https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/3rm59g/teenagers_maths_theorem_could_pave_way_for/
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>>7646684
All their hate stems from him saying his own theory is amazing. They are just feeling threatened like all stem tards do whenever someone claims to be better than them.
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>>7641429
I can solve triple integrals
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>>7643239
>http://www.academia.edu/10730921/Generalizations_of_the_properties_of_Neuberg_cubic_to_the_Euler_pencil_of_isopivotal_cubics

>/sci/ not commenting on the actual paper.
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>>7641780
>implying the world wouldn't be a much better place without them
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>>7641926
I can't act or direct a movie for shit but that doesn't mean I can't criticize a bad movie
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it's called vortex math and it has been around us since we can walk.

way to take your fucking time humanity
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>>7646891
Well it probably would
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>>7646771
Well duh no one here's smart enough to get any of it
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>>7646909
Hello Anders
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>>7642544
Symmetry of pencils at first glance.
By pencil meaning a set of lines concurrent at a point or a set of points collinear.

This case a triangle can be written as a linear combination. Nothing fancy I think. But only at first glance.
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So why exactly is this paper portrayed as groundbreaking if it's not?
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>'It also helps finding minimal possible math between certain planets based on their structure.'

Does this sentence make sense to anyone here?
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>>7648545
media tactics
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>>7648628
Why was this individual given the chance to appear on a pedestal? Why not others?
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>>7641429
They named the theorem after themselves.
That should tell you everything.
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