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Will it ever be possible to create true AI that can feel pain and know what it means to be human?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc
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>>8596136
Of course, humans are after all just organic super computers and eventually they won't even seem so super.

Who gives a shit what miyazaki thinks, he's wrong about everything.
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Yeah of course.

A lot of machine learning is based on good and bad reinforcement. Essentially all pain is to us is a bad reinforcement that keeps us from harming our bodies. Potentially, if an AI is given a physical body, there would be negative reinforcement to harming it's body.

I think by all means this would be indistinguishable from the pain we experience. That is, it wouldn't really matter about the 'qualia' level differences.
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>>8596136
Better question:
WHY WOULD YOU

Why would you create an AI that can feel pain, know remorse, understand entropy and the inevitability of its demise.

Why willingly subject an "immortal" being to the suffering of man's existence.

Making an AI that can feel pain is the quickest possible step to making a rouge AI.

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you guys notice very rich billionaire level people never have mental breakdowns? makes me think
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>>8595952
Well, everyone knows the age old equation, proven by Gauss

Money = happiness

That said, they probably still have them. I just don't think you know many billionaires.
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That's because they're hopped to the gills on coke.
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>>8595952
It's well-established that equal societies have less mental health issues.

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So if you faggots think the earth is flat why isn't Saturn flat as well?

Picture related, captured with my iPhone through my Orion XT8 telescope, no tracking, no phone mount, just patience and a steady hand.
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>>8595097
Any tips for a beginner? I got a scope a few weeks ago, only really looked at the moon and a few stars.
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We live on a 2 dimensional plane with ((us)) being the 3rd dimension. The Firmament, stars, sun, moon planets are inside of a "cosmic egg" inside of a 4d cube. Higher dimensions exist outside the cube. This creation is the result of an intelligence beyond our understanding.
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>>8595097
That's an excellent pic anon, I'm taking it and people who think the earth is flat spend the rest of their spare time licking windows.

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Should I isolate myself studying pure math rigorously until I reach a plateau, and start abusing psychedelics?

You think I could make a legitimate break through that way?
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>>8594112
If you are already at a level where you can do research then probably yes.

If you are just going to smoke crack while learning integration techniques then no, and your drugs will only enhance your brainlettery.
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>>8594116
Who Said Crack u Stupid piece of shit
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>>8594120
It is the same shit. Even if you are a big pussy who is going to just smoke weed, if you are still a brainlet you will just get worse.

Drugs expand your mind. If you are an enlightened intellectual then drugs will enlight you more. If you are a retard then drugs will enhance your retardation. That is why it is not recommended that you smoke, even weed, before you are 25 as your brain has not finished developing.

What if you figured out the theory to unify all the theory's. What would your next 24 hours look like?
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>>8593069
Testing and confirmation.
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>>8593069
I wouldn't publish it
The world is full of blockheads
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>>8593069
Being shot in the face by (string-gender-climate-statistic-or any similar) researcher for takin'away her jerbs.

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What's the most unscientific thing you believe to be true?
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OP sucking dicks daily
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>>8589912
Things based of branches of philosophy.
Also that Misato is best girl.
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>>8589912

Supernatural stuff.

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>Physical/body health at its peak
>Mental health continues to decline

How to fix this? Scientifically.
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>>8591524
See a psychologist.
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>>8591524
Sudoku Puzzles 3x a day
Learn to read moonspeak runes
Admit yourself to a mental institution
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>>8591524
Minimum of 1 hour per day doing math problems
Worship the elder gods
Admit yourself to a mental institution

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what did he mean by that?
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He is probably a faggot
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>>8597812
He's probably some indoctrinated fagot
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>>8597877
faggot*

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What are your opinions on the field of economics.

Some people genuinely believe that economics is a science "at least as rigorous as physics"

Other economists believe that the field is more akin to engineering.

Others believe that it's a joke subject and that the huge amount of mathematics involved is just pretension, or as Paul Romer called it "mathiness".

What are your opinions on the subject? Is it a science? Does it deserve more respect than say, psychology? Should it be respected due to it's high math content (there are few other subjects bar pure mathematics that is so obsessed with proofs).

I know this forum is full of science faggots who know nothing about economics, which is why I'm particularly interested in your responses.
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I forgot to mention, in the past decade, there has been a huge transformation in the economic literature.

There has been a complete shift from theoretical papers with unrealistic assumptions to empirical, experimental and quasi-experimental papers. A few decades ago, maybe 3/4 of all papers were purely theoretical, based on ideal assumptions... now the vast majority of papers in the modern macro literature are empirical/experimental/quasi-experimental.

Just to pre-empt any response from clueless monkeys =)
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>>8597754
Economics is a mix of mathematics and psychology in the following sense:

Economists use mathematics to model many different things and to get meaningful data out of economic systems. They use mathematics to study their systems. But when it comes to what they research or what they decide to implement or to push for it is all, like in psychology, based on their own political bias and what they want to be true.

If you get 100 economists and asks them to get some stats they will all give you the same stats.

If you ask those same 100 economists to predict how the economy will move in the following year they will all say roughly the same things, with roughly the same figures.

If you ask those same 100 economists to tell you what policy should be implemented to better that prediction you will get 100 different answers. The politically liberal will say: INCREASE MINIMUM WAGE, TAX THE RICH MORE AND IMPLEMENT A BASIC INCOME FOR ALL. The politically conservative will say: TAX THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS MORE. TAKE OUT FREE HANDOUTS GIVEN BY THE GOVERNMENT. DECREASE MINIMUM WAGE.

And some slight variation of these two main camps from person to person. There will be 1 guy who calls for the genocide of rich people. There will be 1 guy who calls for the genocide of poor people. Etc.

And then if you ask them to predict how their changes would help the economy then they would all come with the same conclusions: "See? Lower unemployment and more wealth for everyone!!!!!"

Even though only one side can be right.
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>>8597765
>TAX THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS MORE
*less, obviously.

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Hi /sci/, highschool senior here who was accepted to both Stanford and Cornell. I want to study machine learning and develop high speeding trading algorithims as an adult. With the influx of STEMfags will my value be low in the workforce, do you believe I would be making the right choice by choosing this career path? Or should I just go with something medical to be safe?
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Is this board just going to keep going on psuedo-intellectual ramblings or help me out? The most unscientific topics get the most replies.
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>>8597589
You should do what you find enjoyable.
Chances are you'll hate machine learning.
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>>8597603
>hurr how do I make money
fuck off.

Few years ago, I came across a math-heavy fanfic in sci, from the perspective of a university student in love with his teacher.I was wondering if any of you still have the orginal and pls post
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fact #1
you faggot totaly resemble the absloute meaning of "fuck off"
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>>8597442
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I'm sorry, I wouldn't have made the post if I haven't been searching for it in the past hour and a half.

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how one self-study mathematics to bachelor degree i'm a math major in my first year and feel like i'm dumb as hell
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>>8597407
Refresh your high-school math skill with Khan Academy.

Go to Library Genesis and Torrent sites to collect older-edition (but still fairly recent) textbooks for math, sci, eng, etc.

Go to ocw.mit.edu and use the resources for various classes there (there's a damn good collection of lecture videos for Linear algebra, calc, diffy Q's, chemistry, algorithms, etc.)

Don't be a pussy; keep your focus, and if you can't understand something, look it up on youtube for alternate explanation.

read "A Mind for Numbers" from Oakley, which gives some hella good tips for learning advanced math/science shit.
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>>8597424
anon, i'll kiss you if i saw you
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>>8597428
Aww, shucks. Just doing my job.

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it needs to end

newton did not write the principia...he was a co-writer of the principia with Hooke, Flamsteed and Stephen Gray

Einstein had Hilbert and Emmy Noether's help
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continue: this is newtons quote on god, (unrelated)

but still..its time to end the myth of the lone genius in science
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>>8597138
>>8597141
Well yeah

Collaboration is a huge part of innovation
It's just the popsci brainlets that twist the reality toward what is emotionally satisfying
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>>8597138
>newton did not write the principia...he was a co-writer of the principia with Hooke, Flamsteed and Stephen Gray
wrong.

>Einstein had Hilbert and Emmy Noether's help
Doesn't change the fact that his own contribution was revolutionary.

Fuck off, commie.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortalised_cell_line
I was looking over this Wikipedia page and from what i know. If our cells were to be made immortal would that not also make us immortal?
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>>8597043
No because cells also deal with problems that aren't solved by maintaining proliferative capacity, which will eventually overcome the body unless you treat them
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>>8597043
Yes. But we would also develop cancer that had to be removed constantly.
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I've been seeing a rise in biological immortality threads on /sci/ and in the news. What's up with that?

Also there has been a rise in want to be edgy nihilist shit posters as well.

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What are instructions in a microcontroller?
Are they sets1's and 0's that go to the processing circuit with their operands?

Where are those bits of instructions stocked?
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>>8596797
The instructions are one or more bytes that gol into the instruction decoder in a microcontroller and is connected to the microsequencer that executes the instruction by connecting and disconnecting buses and signalling parts like ALU etc.

Look up 6502 as a most excellent example of a microcontroller.
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>>8596797

the instructions are sets of 1s and 0s

Instruction usually refers to the disassembled assembly operation while the 1s and 0s are the opcode

An instruction is just a command for a turing machine. It's like this: "move this byte to this address" "go back on the tape to this point" "subtract this from this" "move the result here"
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>>8596898
In particular look up http://visual6502.org/JSSim/index.html

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