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how hard and how much time will it take to self teach yourself a CS bachelor?
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In my humble opinion, I don't think you'd need a full one. I think it is better to teach oneself linear algebra and calculus, and some differential geometry if you want to go into graphics. Plus a few programming languages. I think that you won't need more than C and C++ in order to learn all that you need in regards to computers. Python is good if you just want to get things done and don't mind losing some efficiency. Some knowledge of the architecture of computers is useful too, which requires a little knowledge on physics.

There is a lot of topics into compilers and artificial intelligence, which are really worthy of time, but I think it depends on what you want to do with computers. There are also more philosophical topics like the Turing machine.
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>>9037224
Why don't you just go to school?
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>>9037336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piSLobJfZ3c

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Is electricity end game technology? Will humans still use it thousand years from now?
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Unlikely. I see it difficult to survive for 3 generations from now as a species.

Hopefully a new Middle Age will come, and electricity won't be available.
Also, at the minute, are you capable to provide electricity in any way if all the available sources would be lost?
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>>9034324
Proton-based Circuitry
Proton-based Transistor
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>>9034324
If humans are still around. Even if we find something better, if the human population is big enough there will be people who still use it for hobby or religious reasons.

moving charges is probably going to be useful thousands of years from now.
>>9034350
>> new middle age
It's gonna take a heck of a lot to uninvent electricity.

>> all available sources lost
There are thousands of cars with alternators in them, thousands of electric motors that could be turned into generators. And if worst comes to worst, batteries are fucking easy to make.

>>9034358
That's still using electricity though.

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So quick question, it's probably been asked before.

But I'm trying to teach myself the fundamentals of quantum computing. Though my book has the pre requisites of group theory, linear algebra, and abstract algebra. I already have linear algebra under my belt up to calculus III and DFQ.

Though when researching group theory, it seems like I need to know set theory, probability, and discrete.

So what's the best way or order to learn these abstract topics? I'd preferred just a list but any thing works.

> pic unrelated
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>>9034120
No idea, but I'm guessing that you are going to need a major on it unless you already have a degree on some of those fields. If that's the case, ask some professor in your university or something.

Or even if not, go to your nearest university, they'll guide you better.
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>>9034120
for quantum, in addition to knowing vector calculus and differential equations, you will also need to know partial differential equations. The best way to learn PDEs, though, is by learning something like quantum right along with it.

While probability used in quantum mechanics is the same probability used by statisticians in a sense, they focus on different things and seem to speak different languages. All the stats you will need to get started can be learned while learning intro quantum. Really, it's mostly how to compute things like expectation values given a continuous probability distribution and some measurable quantity (hint: multiply and integrate), or finding the variance of the same thing.

Group theory you won't need until you already have your feet wet with basic quantum, like Schroedinger equation without spin. Once you get to spin, you can go a few ways because the topic is notoriously tricky. The correct way is to learn about continuous group theory (lie groups) and understand spin from that perspective. Alternatively, you can get handwavey and gloss over the details, but you'll miss out on a fascinating and brain-twisting subject and won't understand really what's going on.

Until you get really comfortable with decomposing quantum systems into modes, computing is a ways away.

By all means though, you sound like you are at the level needed to start learning about quantum (linear algebra, calculus, diff eq.)
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>>9034120
>Learn Proofs
A Transition to Advanced Mathematics by Smith, Eggen, and St. Andre
>Learn Probability
Introduction to Probability by Bertsekas and Tsitsiklis
Introduction to Probability by Blitzstein and Hwang
>Learn Group Theory
Visual Group Theory by Carter
>Learn Linear Algebra mk.II
Linear Algebra by Shilov

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If you had infinite time, could you teach a chimp anything that you can teach a human? Could a chimp learn to prove mathematical theorems or decipher extinct languages?
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>>9033553
no and theres been a ton of studys about it. you can teach them sign language but afaik only a certain number of words
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>>9033555
The 'sentences' that they form also completely lack grammar, and are almost always up to human interpretation in terms of meaning. They learn what words mean and how to express them, not how to create meaningful sentences, and so will always be inferior in terms of language (considering we have an entire brain lobe associated with it).
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>>9033555
So if apes fundamentally can't learn something... does it mean we are fundamentally incapable of grasping some conceots too?

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What's the best way for a brainlet to get into geometry? I was thinking about reading euclid's elements but I'm not sure if I'm intelligent enough to grasp the content and if it's still up to date or not.
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>>9029273
What exactly is it about geometry that intimidates you?
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>>9029273
literally any geometry textbook?

They're all pretty much just updated and modernized euclid's elements. You didn't take geometry in school, though?
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Start off with a simple excercise, like drawing a circle and trying to construct a square with the same volume using only a straight edge and compass

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Names 1 (one) good thing psychology has produced.
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IQ tests
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IQ
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>>9036356
autismbux

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Hello friendos
i got caught up in a weird discussion with strangers on the internet.
Basically they are saying and not moving from
>Every single person, no matter how low his IQ, can solve every single problem given to him given enough time

They will not move from this statement, they dont even take it to ridiculous points like "ok give the 50IQ guy 30000 years and he can solve it"
We got there from a discussion that started with something like "everyone can learn everything, they just need to be interested/dedicated/try hard enough/more wishful thinking anime bullshit"

Thoughts?
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>>9036343
This is true except for black "people"
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>>9036374
>/pol/ falseflagging as someone falseflagging as /pol/
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That's just one if things people say to feel good but nobody believes deep down. People make snap judgements of other people's intelligence levels after a couple minutes of conversation or sometimes simply from their facial features alone, and categorize their competence levels from there.

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Hello, everyone. I was hoping there was a biologist/entomologist who could help me identify this beetle. Thanks
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have you ever heard of a ladybird anon?
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>>9036222
Sorry newfag, the only biology we talk about here on /sci/ is about how race significantly affects intelligence.
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>>9036222
not redit fuck off. not even a location provided. How hard is it to google "beetle species in x area" gaywad

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Didn't get to post in the last one. Finally getting my Bachelor's next semester, took so much time and effort.
Accounting btw.

General rules should apply. No asking for academic/homework help, and no asking for advice on which school to attend or which field to study. Homework request threads should be posted in /wsr/. Advice threads belong in /adv/.

Questions about other people's majors should be limited to questions such as:
"How difficult was that major/class?"
"Did you enjoy attending (x) University?"
"What's campus life like there?"
"Did you enjoy studying (x)?"

Etc.

Posters, diplomas, discussions, etc. should be related to mathematics or science. While you can post your arts and non-science related degrees, they don't belong on this board or in this thread unless they somehow pertain to the topic of science or mathematics in some way, shape, or form.
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>>9035939
first post for
FUCK LIBERAL ARTS
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>>9035939
>"Did you enjoy attending (x) University?"
>"What's campus life like there?"
not science or math related
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>>9035960
>not science or math related
not science or math related

If evolution exists, why have lizards and alligators not evolved in any noticeable way for 62 million years?
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Because they are and have been doing pretty damn well as is.
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>>9035457
/thread
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>>9035457
>>9035460
That is wrong and you know it. Humans developed complex thought in a couple million years and lizards are still stupid fucks living in trees and deserts.

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>http://x.com/
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He's going to murder PayPal
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making web design great again
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>>9035348
He's announcing that he's been cucked

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I was just wondering if I could get some clarity on this. So if a blue eyed person is double recessive and is not carrying the gene for brown eyes (the parents and child have blue eyes) has a child with a person who has homogeneous genes for brown eyes. What are the chances that their child will have blue eyes? Is it 50/50 like pic related or does that require the brown eyes person to be heterogeneous?
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>>9034551
So basically 25% of asians have blue eyes
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>>9034559
fucking kek
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Bump
Anything on this?

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ITT: We discuss the exact way to read complex mathematical formulas and notations.
For example, how would Φ(a) = φα(a) a ∈ Aα or more advanced notation, such as Λ˜
a,b = {(x1, x2); 0 < |x2| < γ(x1), 0 < x1 < a} be read out loud?
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>>9034538
Brainlet bump. Im interested
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How would γδ + αlβl > 0, ∀l be read out loud?
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I just mentally go "uuuh hmph aah ooh". I never had to read one out loud. Isn't that what everyone does?

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hi guys, does this guide really work?
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>>9034455
>think global
Is this some kind of indoctrination?
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>>9034455
"Think global" is just nonsense memespeak with no substance behind it. It's an essentially meaningless phrase which can bu used to mean literally anything while conjuring up a fuzzy association to fuzzier images of "interconnectedness" and "pluralism"

>muh pale blue dot
>muh we're all more related than not in the sense that we're the only intelligent life we know of on a tiny rock
>muh this is all irrelevant on the cosmic scale
"The cosmic scale" is irrelevant. Any well-defined notion of "significance" presupposes a context, and so is inherently qualified to that context.
>"services"
>"agriculture"
This says less than nothing about socioeconomics. Subsistence farming and first world "industrialized" agricultural professions are more different than they are similar. It gives no insight into the daily lives of people, or even who controls means of production and who does not.
>patchwork quilt
>lol society is a heterogeneous thing comprised of several distinct interlocking parts
Yeah... It's not wrong, but it's trite as hell and, again, tells you less than nothing. Also the metaphor breaks down and becomes flat-out wrong when you try to nontrivially extend it - "these fragments are in harmony, cooperate, are equally significant, and all necessary"
>lol all people have things they are, things they aren't, and things they may or may not be comfortable with
Sounds like something a brainlet who "understands people" would say and come away thinking they've uncovered some profound insight into the human condition, but it's a truly banal heuristic. It's also wrong. There is no fundamentally stable "I" and identity is an inherently mutable thing.
>Maslow's Hierarchy
Shit-tier for many reasons, not least of which being that you don't in any sense need to "fully achieve" the lower ones before "moving up," and that needs on different tiers frequently contradict with each other such that the "lower" one doesn't always necessarily take precedence.
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>>9034686
Honestly, the "hierarchy" is saying nothing (halfway defensible) beyond "I'm choosing to call these needs 'higher' than these other ones because they're more abstracted and interrelated with self-concept, 'identity' and higher executive functioning."
As for "step 4 is from above lol focus on the bare basics and happiness will come to you," that's a pretty shit-tier conclusion, but it's still something you could argue, I guess, if you have a raging boner for the Epicureans.
If you actually want to understand aggregate human action and motivation as they relate to history, society, and the satisfaction of needs, Historical Materialism is better in every conceivable way.

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Are "learning styles" real science or just excuses for being too lazy to learn certain things?
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>>9034428
OP confirmed stupid
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>>9034428
I'm a physical learner. I literally cannot learn any math unless apples are involved and in the room.
I'm having a real hard time in pre-calc right now.
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>>9034428
These learning styles on your image, which I think is what you are referring to, are wrong.

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