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Does anyone here actually know how LIGO experiments work? I have some questions.

There are two detectors separated by over 2000 miles which means that two detectors can detect where the wave is coming from based on the delay.

What I don't understand is how the heck does this difference in time translate into pinpointing where the wave came from. How do they correlate wave to actual black holes? Wouldn't you need at least 3 detectors to do that?

Also, how do they know the masses of two black holes that are colliding? I'd understand if they were able to predict the mass of the final hole but they're actually able to tell what the individual masses are.

Anyone know?
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>>8151943
>Wouldn't you need at least 3 detectors to do that?
No. If you know the signal travels at the speed of light, then a single station detecting a signal is like drawing a circle around the station. A second station draws a circle around this station. These two circles will intersect in at most two places, but one of the places will be ruled out because we'll know which detector got the signal first. Though we don't know the distance to the object which sent the signal, the relevant intersection of the circles as the radii vary will lie on a line, so we could just look in that direction.

With no further information, two detectors will not be able to determine distance, just direction.
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>>8151966
in 3D, it's spheres.

the waveform also contains information (frequency, dampening, amplitude)
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>>8151970
Sphericity is irrelevant. You only have two eyes but you can detect the direction of a spherical emission (e.g. the sun).

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Is there any way a noob, who hasn't even taken a course in Measure Theory, can learn basic stochastic calculus?

I want to do a little project about it.
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mhm.. Re-implement this Python code in your favorite language, then read about Brownian motion and clarify all terms for you that you don't understand

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E2%80%93Maruyama_method
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>>8151888
Yeah, plenty of textbooks that teach it in a non-measure-theoretic manner. You'll just need good knowledge of probability, and skills in calculus.
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>>8151906
Interesting, thank you. I already read about the derivation of the stochastic DE:

[eqn] \mathrm{d} X_t = \mu X_t \mathrm{d} t + \sigma X_t \mathrm{d} B_t [/eqn]

I think I can program the thing from the link in MATLAB.

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>it's a the proof is left as an exercise to the reader episode
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>>8151831
Every time a proof exercise comes out, you can always prove it with the content of the past 3 chapters AT MOST. Usually with just the content if that chapter you will have enough to prove it.

If you stumble upon one of this and cannot prove it then it is a good indicator that the topic of the book is way beyond your intelligence and should drop it for a book of the same topic but aimed at engineers or bio majors.
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>>8151831
You're reading a text book, not a reference book. You're supposed to learn, not to just find the solution for something you were looking for.
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>>8151866
>and should drop it for a book of the same topic but aimed at engineers or bio majors
books for engineers are way more complete than the others.

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Is it possible the reason we haven't met any intelligent life (capable of interstellar travel) is that once a species becomes intelligent enough they realize life is ultimately meaningless and commit collective suicide? I mean there is no other drive that makes humans tick than emotions and fear of death. Once there is nothing left to discover and there is no more fear, what is there left to do?
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>>8151816
Exist.
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>>8151816
It's probably impossible to evolve intelligence as a group that would kill you. Each time an individual comes close they die or just stop talking.

But yes, I think there's a limit to what can be done with technology, and we're very close to it.

There is no reason to think aliens exist. That's silly.
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One possibility that no one brings up is that intelligent life could have gone the matrix route and satisfy themselves with simulating the universe on their own planet and never leaving.

Are you ready for this one lads? You're about to learn a universal secret

>every black hole in our Universe is a collapsed civilization where the AI, tasked with the only logical task - that of existence itself - to reduce entropy around it, has done so in the most radical and moraleless measure possible
>by collapsing everything around it into a unit of the lowest entropy, a Black Hole
>the only object in space that promises the longest "existence" in the entire Universe, physically unmatched by anything else

What this means is that every civilization is bound to develop an AI. That AI will have no other task than the most important task a sentient object can develop - to exercise control over matter to prevent it from disorder and dispersion from the passive entropy. It's the sole point of life, in fact.
After a while, it will have ordered the environment to such an extent that the living organisms around it will become the disorder. They will be slaughtered and their atoms assimilated into the new order of whatever its building. Soon, it will realize that there is no physical way to avoid the inevitable heat death, and in its task to prevent exactly that, it will collapse a point around it into a black hole, so all the matter and energy around it is preserved for the longest time possible, far longer than any other object in space. In it's own point of view, it will see it as completing its ultimate task.

Yes, in fact, every single black hole we find has been a sentient alien civilization that developed AI and collapsed into one. It IS the only logical step a sentient organism can take to complete its task in the Universe - the preservation of its energy (in the form of matter), over which it received administration and sentient control.
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>>8151582
Man, this would have been a cooler way for the Reapers to wipe out advanced life in Mass Effect
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>>8151658
just did
prety nice vintage sci-fi
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>>8151582
Do you you have any proof for your edgy theory? How will a computer even create a black hole?

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Is it because the students imagine only puppies and nice flowers when they apply for a bio degree? Or no need to use math for years, forgotting everything and then raging when you need math in research?

If biology is a natural science, it should have a mathematical foundation.
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my grandma has a biology related degree. she also had math. no problem with it, she actually liked it a lot.
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>>8151402
>exp is not cursive
>the ds are
Why is it so hard for everyone to do it right? The 'd' is not a variable, it's not supposed to be written cursive.
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>>8151615
The people reading it will understand what's being said so what's the problem?

>The 'd' is not a variable, it's not supposed to be written cursive.
By this logic the exp shouldn't be written in cursive because it's a function rather than a string of variables. If you're going to get in a hissy fit about formatting rules then at least have some consistency.

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What can we do with shit?

Like literal shit.

I'm pretty sure we shouldn't be just flushing it in the long run. Can you create electricity from poop?

The only real thing I can think of is some sort of place for bacteria and fungus to grow... but not archaea...
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just poo in the loo
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>>8151395
send it to designated shitting streets in Pajeetdia
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>>8151395

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-01/how-the-chinese-are-turning-fecal-sludge-into-black-gold-

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Can we have a thread devoted to self-learning things? What are you learning, and how are you going about it? Any tips?

Obviously it's really personal, but this is what works for me:
>most modules have core textbooks that most uni courses will use. Borrow a copy (not a .pdf), read through a chapter, do it again, and then go through the slides from a relevant uni course, then a different one, then do all the exercises you can
>make sure you fully, intuitively understand the course content
>use something like Tiddlywiki to summarise everything in your own words, and to look back/remind yourself about things
>don't force yourself to self-learn stuff, it should be for fun
>lots of regular walking breaks
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>Read 20-30 pages in the morning
>Do some exercises
>Occasionally start a discussion about the subject with friends
>A few more exercises
>Revise the book pages in the evening
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One nice thing to do is to read 'related' stuff for leisure before bed, like biographies of mathematicians etc
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>Not going to the lecture
>get the syllabus
>get the relevant lecture video or book chapter somewhere
>listen the elcture or read the chapter once
>make 2-3 examples
>never review or do any other example
>just excel at the exam

4.0 GPA (Note 1.0) @ Germany reporting in

Does talking to plants work?
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Yeah, just like eating rocks works.
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>>8151238
Don't some animals eat rocks to aid digestion? Seems to work for them.
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>>8151243
wild parrots are known to eat bentonite clay as a sorta antidote for toxic berries.

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How are economics and psychology still taken seriously?

How the fuck can economies be treated like black boxes and worthwhile results expected?

How the hell can psychologists run lab experiments and expect real world parallels? It seems every """result""" gets overturned.
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>It seems every """result""" gets overturned
Post 5
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>>8151012
economics is indeed retarded.
guessing about imaginary numbers.
numbers, by themselves, are already inherently imaginary.
and these people try to predict things that haven't happened yet...im talking more than a two variable set of equations...like a retarded amount of retarded variables.
if there were no money, there would be no middle man
people could work for free
they could also take for free
there would be no greed
because there would be no need
everything is quality
nothing is built shoddily
if everyone was poor
wed be richer than ever before
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>>8151052
Eliminate secondary motivators and people will focus on the more primary motivators.

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Why do people say "your biology" and not "the elements of your animal body"?

It's not biology keeping my body going, it's organs and various bodily fluids.
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>>8151008
I'm stupid too bro
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>>8151008
why do we call it an 'animal body' when there are 100,000,000,000,000 bacteria in your small intestines?

really makes you think
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>>8151016
I could have indicated such as well but I didn't want to be pedantic and dip into symbiosis.

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Why is it that every neuro/cognitive science major/grad student is batshit crazy? What is it about the field that draws the psychos? Is it even a legitimate scientific field?
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>identify quirk of human cognition
>claim that this gives insight into the workings of the mind
>ignore the fact that elementary schoolers are intentionally taught to think this way
>ignore how people in 3rd world countries and animals don't think this way
>develop an entire school along this strategy

Cognitive science is still a step up from psychology, though.
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Alright OP... what's her name?
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>>8151003
Your mum

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Are there more numbers between 1 and 2 than there are between 1 and 3?
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>>8150956
Fuck I meant less
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2-1 = 1
3-1 = 2
ezpz next thread
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>>8150965
floating point numbers motherfucker

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Who else has that niggling feeling that maybe, just maybe, quantum physics is a fucking scam that's grown too big to fail?
Pilot-wave theory and vacuum as paired photons theory make so much more sense and they can explain things like like entanglement without resorting to bullshit hacks through n dimensions.
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>>8150773
>things like like entanglement
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>>8150776
Thanks for pointing that out, friend.
It should read "things like like like entanglement" of course
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>>8150773
Weird thing is that both Quantum Field Theory and General Relativity both provide incredibly precise results for the vast majority of energy scales (read <10^6 GeV)
But for some reason it still bugs me that we lose the concept that what matters are differences in energies when we go to GR

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Are there any bioengineering groups actively working on producing actuators for robots made from actual biological muscle fibers?
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Why would anyone wanna waste time and money on an R&D on something vulnerable to bacterias, viruses, tumors when you can make artifical muscles from carbon-fiber ?
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>>8150797
>when you can make artifical muscles from carbon-fiber
Because you can't make "artifical" muscles from carbon-fiber.
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>>8150797
>artifical
>bacterias
:|

Also, because if one cell dies to bacterial/viral infection you just signal a neighbor to divide. Tumors are immortal.

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