The other day I had a discussion with a SC student, said that Godel's incompleteness theorem showed that science was limited.
Why compufags and mathfags pretenten talk about science when they know almost nothing? Especially compufags.
>>8299023
Because they know more than you.
Especially the mathematicians.
wtf is SC?
>>8299036
la science computationnele, pronounce with a heavy American accent
>its a brainlet doesn't do cardio for cognitive benefits but claims he's smart and enlightened episode
In my experience, it doesn't help
It's better to spend that time studying
>>8299005
Brainlet detected. Do you spend every hour studying? No.
>>8299005
>I can't spend 20 minutes a day relaxing because im such a brainlet that I can't study piece by piece daily
>yets somehow I have time to browse /sci/
Let's talk about math education in the U.S. In particular, lets discuss high school math education.
Positives?
Negatives?
What are your thoughts?
Americans don't learn math, why else are they so fat from drinking a lot of soda and eating a lot of GMOs? Americans ruin everything.
You guys literally just won the Olympiads.
As a European, honestly, it's fine. The biggest problem is the way it seems to be ever more adapted to the lowest common denominator. But the curriculum doesn't seem to civer anything less than European schools (save from maybe some analytic geometry and matrix algebra?).
Both European and American schools seem to fail in motivating students for maths, though I guess it's more of a cultural issue
Why is this new planet such a big deal? We are finding this habitable planets every week. Is it because it is so "close"?
I mean, we didn't even get yet to Mars and they are already talking about how it will be Earth 2.0
>>8298277
Because it is the closest exoplanet.
If we dumped the entire world's GDP into it. We could actually travel there in a human life span.
>>8298277
It's not about going there nigguh, it's about being able to get data since it's close.
>>8298282
you are deluded
no amount of money in the world will prepare you for the hell that is interstellar space travel
there are literally a trillion variables to consider all of which want to kill you to death
Can you explain, /sci/?
>there's no number that when multiplied by itself equals a negative number
only true in the reals
>sqrt(-1)
not a real number
>>8297791
I stopped caring about math when I was introduced to the concept of imaginary numbers. What a crock of shit. If your equation can only be solved by inventing numbers that can't exist, like some kind of math deity , then you are fucking wrong and the math is flawed. Same for algebra solutions that basically say "the correct answer is whatever the correct answer is". Thats what the math said transcribed to words but god forbid if i wrote in down in english instead of the ancient math runes the teacher word mark me wrong.
Math is logical and numbers never lie my ass. Math is just as flawed as any other human construct.
>how can the letter X exist when there is no letter that comes after W and before Y?
Microsoft Excel blamed for gene study errors but why in the hell are so called "smart people" using Microsoft Crapware like Excel? That is like operating on the brain with a rusty chainsaw.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37176926
>>8297224
Excel is overused and misused everywhere because it's very easy at first. So people both in business and in the sciences take the easy way out only to be fucked a couple years later when Excel becomes the worst, least convenient thing they could've built their processes around. Programming and SQL backends in contrast are less easy at first (i.e you have to write it all yourself instead of clicking on pictures like an infant) but make everything super-convenient to work with down the road for years to come.
>>8297224
Maybe it is that Excel has like 15 or 30 digits precision and probably a bunch of rounding errors adding up along the way could have messed up the final result.
>>8297224
scientists dont use excel
biologists though...
Engineers are not true scientists.
>>8296257
Yes they are.
Why not?
>>8296264
They don't produce any knowledge, they dont construct any theories, they don't seek to find laws in nature.
They merely apply the knowledge generated by true scientists. Which is something that any common man do today; the only difference is engineers are highly specialized in doing that.
In this sense engineers are more similar to artisans than to scientists.
>tfw aliens with advanced technology exist but none of them want to visit us because we aren't impressive enough
implying we wouldn't always be like ants to them
ants build relatively complex systems. keyword relatively. Do we admire their work, though? No, we see them as minor animals. Same with bees, and going up the ladder this can be applied to a couple of others in the animal kingdom.
aliens have no empathetic reason to establish peace with us. Ever. Not even if we create a Dyson sphere and master intergalactic travel
>>8294865
>tfw aliens with advance technology exist
>tfw aliens made their equivalent of anime waifus real.
>tfw aliens are probably ending entropy by extending the life of this universe, and are basically biologically immortal.
>tfw these aliens probably have their own versions of a world creation kit and are gods in those things doing whatever they want, and sharing it with their own equivalent of the internet.
When is humanity going to catch up with any of this?
>>8294889
>We figure out faster than light travel in the year 954,076 AD
>Find out we took longer than any other sentient species in the history of the universe to figure it out
>We are literally the dumbest sentient species of all time
FRIENDLY REMINDER!
Since most of you are probably still in school, and some of you are starting college for the first time I have a friendly piece of advice
DO NOT BUY YOUR BOOKS FROM YOUR SCHOOL BOOKSTORE!
You can hundreds, yes hundreds buying them used online. My total book cost this semester was just $70. You can save a shit ton of money renting them from Amazon or buying them from places like Chegg and other similar sites.
DO NOT BUY FROM CAMPUS BOOKSTORE!
>buying books
>ever
Cuck.
>>8294486
>using cuck
>ever
pleb
>>8294486
It's personal preference, but I like being able to physically hold the book and flip through it. It's easier than having to scroll through a PDF or something like that.
So, what are we going to do about it? Plant tons of trees?
Probably noting in the short term... anything that's expensive to respond to, treads on vested interests and won't materialize for a while isn't going to be taken seriously. When things start to materialize some form of drastic global climate engineering will be resorted to at the last moment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_engineering
>>8294196
Go suck a dick you retarded cunt.
There are so many horrifying pollutants and you stupid bastards cry about carbon dioxide and "muh climate change".
How about you swallow a bunch of seeds and shoot yourself you stupid fucker, this way you'll have zero emissions.
>>8294196
>So, what are we going to do about it?
Ignore it until it goes away.
When 2100 appears people will laugh in the face of the fucking idea as we'll have better models and observations to totally demolish the retarded concept that contemporary hypothesises peddle.
Share your explanatory GIFs/WebMs.
Ok, with hurricane season underway, and Louisiana still up a creek sans paddle, I thought it'd be nice to start some serious discussion about that universal idle topic of conversation.
Pretty much anything that's going on involving air and water on our little blue marble should be relevant, but PLEASE for the love of $DEITY avoid arguments about global warming/climate change, or /x/-tier tinfoil like HAARP and "chemtrails". Let's try to keep it concrete, practical, and empirical.
[math]\textbf{Bookmarks}[/math]
Most of these are US-centric, but some are more generally applicable. Feel free to share your favorite weather sites.
World Meteorological Organization: http://www.wmo.int
US National Weather Service: http://www.weather.gov/
US Joint Typhoon Warning Center: https://metoc.ndbc.noaa.gov/JTWC/
US Navy Tropical Cyclone Page: http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/TC.html
ECMWF (Europe) Charts & Forecasts: http://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts
JMA (Japan) Typhoon Center: http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/
Weather prediction education: http://www.theweatherprediction.com/
Unisys Weather: http://weather.unisys.com/index.php
UCAR Weather Data: http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/
AWM Model Viewer: http://aweathermoment.com/model-viewer/
AWIPS II (software used by the NWS, free): http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/awips2/
NOAA Weather and Climate Toolkit: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/wct/
>>8290349
I'll give it a bump from /news/.
>>8290761
Ok.
I'm actually preparing a forecast right now for hikers on the AT. I'll leave it with the bottles of water I usually deliver.
Bumping with love from El Paso, TX. Its raining with a flash flood warning.
If you don't like cats then you're missing out on some very effective stress relief to be quite desu.
>>8298914
>feeling stressed
>stroke cat
>cat digs claws into my hand and bites me
>stress increases
>>8298914
I'm allergic.
>>8298970
I'm allergic and I have a cat.
Is this accurate?
>>8297276
bio is stamp collecting, yeah
I don't get what the others are saying
>>8297286
The point is that biology is harder than chemistry which is harder than physics which is harder than math
>>8297276
maths end is more about problem solving, bio end is more about learning
Which one are you?
the first one but not in all classes
>>8300134
Me on the left
But in all honesty, somewhere in between.i reread my notes and do a problem or two of each type and then it's committed to memory and not going anywhere so I move on.
Some people study ridiculous amounts hut its just because they're fucking stupid or don't understand the material and have to depend on memorization rather than intuition
Left in DiffEq, right in Physics 2