>the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are c

>>39465081
Why won't anyone listen to us....

>>39465081
It's a sex app, why would roasts hook up with a 4/10 ''man'' instead of a Chad god? You're ugly AND stupid for being surprised over those results.

>>39465081
>/r9k/ was right
An important thing to learn is that /r9k/ and /pol/, the two most hated boards, are always right. Always. That's why they're so hated. People hate truth and facts when it challenges their world view and sense of justice.

>>39465179
Pol and r9k are only right when it comes to investigating current events. When it Comes to predicting the future they do a piss poor job.

>>39465081
There's the what, now you should ask yourself the why.

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>>39465193

/pol/ predicted the election more accurately than every single mainstream media outlet

>>39465262
Not really. There were only two outcomes and during the end of the election everyone was freaking out about the polls and insisting that Hillary would rig the election.

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well it is natural. That is how the mammal procreation functions, only the best males get to impregnate females. The rest of us are just meant to be provider, we are supposed to work hard to create a better world for the Chads offspring. So whenever you get depressed because you cannot get a gf normies will say things like "do something you like" or "volunteer". In other words they are saying "go earn money for us while we have sex". Since the first world is rich and provides us with neet bucks, we do not even have to work so we even lack a purpose as providers. We are totally obsolete and our lives are meaningless. I'm totally starting to understand people like Elliot Rodger.

Tinder is the modern equivalent of "going to the club and trying to get laid", of course the results are going to be based almost entirely on physical attractiveness. Why the fuck are people surprised by this.

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>>39465351

Well, historically, men like us would just die. Either we'd be killed in warfare or simply run out of society because more men is pretty much never something anyone wants.

But yes, life is meaningless (even if you're a Chad). At least Chad gets to have fun while he's here, though, rather than wallowing in absolute misery like me.

>>39465081
No shit. I'm probably a solid 5/10 and in the 6 months I used Tinder, I got a total of 3 matches that never responded to me (8 if you want to count the bots I matched with).
You'll literally have better luck awkwardly approaching women in a library than fucking Tinder.

>>39465481
I agree completely. But I do not think that live is meaningless if you are a Chad. If you get to pass on your genes by having children you "keep living" through your offspring because you managed to make a small version of you. Once you do you are supposed to provide them with enough resources so they have a good chance at passing on their genes. This way your genes get to live for generations.

Where do us losers go? Online dating sites?

We've gone over this many times already. 4chan is always right because it's a free market of ideas, where wrong ideas are selected out because there's no censorship or agendas.

>>39465589
are you a retard? We are talking about how online dating sucks. Life is literally pointless for men like us. We are better off being dead.

>>39465561

Passing on your genes is meaningless, too. Just because it's what organisms *do* doesn't imbue it with any deeper meaning, otherwise shitting and pissing could be "meaningful" too.

He passes on his genes and eventually down the road they get wiped out, even if it's so far in the future that the sun destroys earth or during the heat death of the universe.

There is no meaning for anyone. We get one chance at consciousness before we go back into the void for the rest of eternity. Chad got lucky and gets to enjoy his time. We got unlucky and do not.

I don't understand 80/20. I thought looks and purity mattered more when it came to women and masculinity and wealth mattered more for men.

>>39465589
Yes
>>39465622
Tinder isn't online dating, it's online hookups. Most people on there don't bother with a description, it's all about looks.

Is this proof that women are more, not less, visual than men?

>>39465081
>barebones dating app used chiefly for hookups values aesthetics over anything else

How is this surprising? This is why I don't go on tinder looking for girlfriend material.

>>39465626

No, women only care about your looks. That's the real redpill. No matter how alpha you act, if you're ugly, it doesn't matter.

I'm nearly thirty. I figured out eventually that women will always hate me and judge me badly because I'm ugly, no matter what I do. Because of that, I decided to say and do whatever the fuck I want. Alpha behavior, right? Sure, but women aren't any more attracted to me. I'm just a creepy asshole to them because I'm hideous.

>>39465081
The feeling when you're right but really want to be wrong is the worst feeling there is.

>>39465589
Anime.

>>39465643
a hypothetical girlfriend would also select you based on aesthetics over anything else. looks are the single most important asset in the dating market

>>39465640
The app is literally designed to match people based on whether you find the person visually appealing or not. Of course women are gonna be picky and only choose the hottest guys. There's no way for the average guy to draw them in with some witty opener on an app where looks are what's barring you from even messaging a girl.

>>39465673

You don't get to draw them in with a witty opener on any dating site because whether your message is read or not is based entirely on whether they like your picture.

Isn't it strange how socialists dont care about this type of inequality? This sounds far worse than any economic inequality. What is worse making a bit less money than you should or never getting to experience love?

>>39465673
Then how come men aren't nearly as picky?

>>39465665
You don't understand the female psyche at all. Women compartmentalize various attributes of men, they will still date them if they make up for their shortcomings elsewhere.
And if you wanted to be petty, height is actually far more important to women than facial aesthetics.

>>39465665
That's wrong. I get girlfriends in good part because of my looks and charm, but since I barely have anything else to offer I get dumped sooner than later.

>>39465624
You will probably grow out of this attitude. We all thought this at some point

>>39465692
If it was the other way round and women were the victims they would care

>>39465706
i'm not being petty, i'm a realist. also, height falls under aesthetics, and FACE is way more important than height

>>39465713
>I get girlfriends in good part because of my looks
thanks for supporting my point. the fact that your relationships are dysfunctional doesn't change the fact that you cross that threshold of innitial attraction

>>39465761
If you only have looks you won't get much beyond the first date. And women who've dated me probably rethought their selection process afterwards.

>>39465692
socialist here. dating culture sucks. the idea that men need to always approach women and never the other way around needs to go

>>39465682
Ok, let's look at traditional dating sites like OKC and POF. As a girl, you get something like 50+ guys barraging you with messages. Having to look at every single message alongside viewing said sender's profile is incredibly tedious when they can just mass delete all the messages from guys who aren't hot.
Think of it like this; it's like a girl walking into a bar and having literally every guy fighting to talk to her or get her attention simultaneously. It's all just noise to her, there's no way she's gonna be able to hear anything some 5/10 she might hit it off with over all the other guys jabbering over him. Best she can do is filter based on visuals and pick the cutest guys she sees to speak to.
>>39465697
Because the vast majority of men treat the dating scene as a numbers game. Doesn't matter if you fucked a handful of 4/10s, the fact is you fucked multiple women and thus are successful. Lock and key theory applies heavily here.

>>39465697
it's female nature desu
they're just way more selective

>>39465654
Then why do women fawn after ugly but rich rappers?

>>39465795

Because the dating scene is a numbers game. At least online, most women will ignore my initial message because they will never initiate. Most that do respond will vanish mid-conversation. When I have to ask them out (Because they will never initiate), most will flake and vanish. Those that don't will stand me up. So, it's a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage that actually get to the date, and most of those will vanish on you afterwards too.

>>39465761
>FACE is way more important than height
Incorrect. A 9/10 model teir faced guy will lose to a 5/10 average faced guy if he's shorter than the girl (heck, even if he's shorter than 5'11 he'll still lose).
Women despise short men. You have it all wrong.

>>39465785
Women approach men who they are attracted to. Dont turn it into another muh patriarchy story. Men are 100% in the disadvantage here. Now go and tell your socialists friends about it and see how they react.

Yea retard, thats how mating works. Only difference nowadays is that 80% of men dont die in war and shit

>>39465785

Unfortunately, modern feminism is about equality when it benefits women and gender roles when it doesn't. I'm a socialist (and a feminist), but I think most "feminists" are just really self-serving assholes who don't really believe in the actual philosophy but just want advantages for themselves.

>>39465803

Women will fuck you for your money, but it's not because they are attracted to you. It's because they are trading vagina for resources.

>>39465839
I think that being drawn to status/wealth makes more sense. I'm a woman and I honestly don't think looks are important for men. Personality is more important.

>>39465870

They are drawn to status and wealth because... of money. Women like having things done for them, so, if they can just spread their legs a few times and get a bunch of money out of it, why not?

>I'm a woman and I honestly don't think looks are important for men.

Tits or gtfo.

>>39465883
No, because of security. Tall/muscular/bigger men provide security as well in a physical way. It's masculine too. Same with a deep voice. I think the feeling matters more than being physically stimulated to women.

>>39466124

IE: Their looks. Basically, women are stupid. After all, why wouldn't they be? The only thing required for a woman to spread her genes is to open her legs.

>>39466155
No, because you could be facially average and still have those attributes.

>>39465815
You're getting close to the point I'm trying to make. Dating sites are designed in such a way that allows and encourages women to be incredibly selective and only choose men they deem to be the cream of the crop. It's too much noise for a woman to give a few average guys a chance.
You're honestly better off cold approaching a girl or meeting one through mutual friends, work, school, volunteering, etc. It's a far more level playing field when half the city's men aren't trying to shove past you to get the girl's attention.

>>39465081
And women tell us to lower our standards.

>>39465818

i think this guy means if you are tall but have a literally fucked up mutant face -10/10 a girl would prefer a 9/10 faced 5'11 guy

>>39466155
So you're saying you don't go for looks at all?

>>39465081

Go on Tinder and set your preferences to men. This is an experiment, doesn't matter if you are gay.

For months on Tinder I got a handful of matches. All single moms or very fat women. None of the smoking hot cuties or even girls I would consider 5-6/10 responded. Only the literal bottom of the barrel.

Once I set my preferences to men I got nearly 100 percent reciprocation of likes. When I was swiping women I literally swiped right on every woman. Didn't even look, just swiped until I was out of swipes then waited for them to restock. When I set it to men I only swiped what I considered to be attractive men. Even if you aren't gay you can acknowledge that someone like David Beckham is an attractive man. So I only chose attractive men. Nearly 100 percent reciprocation for the men, literally bottom of the barrel for women.

So what did we learn? Men are THIRSTY for sex. A 10/10 man will nail a 6/10 hungrily, a 4/10 at a moment's notice. And this presents for Tinder. Imagine you are a 7/10 woman and literally EVERY man on the app is liking you. You have a sea of men to choose from. You can be as picky as you like, you have hundreds to choose from. If you, good forbid, actually left notifications on for Tinder your phone would never be silent. Endless men all clamouring for you, sending endless "witty" messages. Of course you would be picky, you can.

Men wait with bated breath to see if our witty message to that 6/10 will get a response. But to that girl you are message 1/10,000 just today, why would she ever respond to you?

I guess the take away is set your preferences to men, you can get unlimited dick and cuddles that way.

The bottom 1% of men are competing for the bottom 1% of women. Anything else is a cuck fantasy.

>raging bitter kissless virgins who have not left the basement in years being experts on women

Oh wait, it's /r9k/. Every day.

>>39465818
Do you have a source for that claim? Oh wait, you don't. You just made that up. It's the most retarded stamement I have read all day on /r9k/. Good looking short men are swimming in pussy. Ugly tall men die virgins. Why do you think most robots are tall?

>>39466175

If you're "facially average" then you're ugly, as it's been shown women consider almost all men to be ugly.

>>39466175
A good looking face also signals dominant behavior/masculinity/good genes

>ITT
>basement dwelling MGOTW and m'lady fedoras thinking they know anything about women

>>39466295
This
Either you're a Chad or you're ugly, there's not middle ground

>>39466197

Yes, I am aware. It's the same in real life, though. Online dating just magnifies that effect from real life. Pretty much every woman has a gaggle of orbiters and men considerably outnumber women at every age bracket until like late 40's or so.

Basically I've given up on dating. Because of how skewed it is in favor of women, it makes it no fun at all to do because the woman generally puts in no effort whatsoever, expecting me to take all the risks, spend all the money, put forth all the effort, and dance to entertain her like a trained monkey. And if I do one single thing she doesn't like? She just vanishes into the ether and I never see her again. I'm still miserable, though, because as a guy I'm biologically wired to want women around, and it takes a pretty heft psychological toll to pretty much never have any contact with them.

>>39465692
Economic inequality at least has a tangible solution. You really think even if we somehow restored traditional rules on marriage, sexuality, and gender roles to make things more equal that women would love the betas forced upon them? Hell, women don't actually feel real love at all, even for Chads, just primitive infatuation.

>>39466371

The solution is to reject the concept of love entirely and to rid yourself of a desire for it. I wish I could.

>>39466295
>>39466303
Um, my ex was overweight and had a chubby face but I still found him attractive and found him masculine/dominant because of his height, size, personality.

>>39466281
No shit you ultra retard, a 6'5 1/10 guy will never get laid over a 5'7 9/10 guy. It's easy to hand-wave your observations when you don't quantify anything.
>Why do you think most robots are tall?
Why do you thing most robots have huge dicks? Oh wait, e-stats/vocal minorities. What a dumb fucking argument, finish your summer reading already.

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>>39466384

Trusting what women said about dating made me waste about thirty years of my life.

So, see, pic related.

>>39465818
Except italian people, I belive they are the only short ones that have a decent chance.

>>39466400
being tall isn't as important as face. you just have to be taller than the girl, which isn't very difficult considering the average male towers over the average female

>>39466324
You haven't given up on dating. You never even tried it in the first place.

The trick is to use angles and filters to make yourself pass as a Chad. Once you meet them in real life it'll be too late for them to back out. Most Chads don't look as good as they do in pictures either

>>39466448
Even that doesn't matter as long as you are not a dwarf. Tall girls have no problem dating shorter guys.

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>>39466467

Yeah, I did try. But thanks random person from the internet who doesn't actually know anything about me. Thumbs up!

>>39466491
Women don't mind a bad date if it means free food. They'll just eat the food and leave. I don't understand why shit pasta at Applebee's is worth the time for them, but no one ever claimed women weren't vapid children.

This is bad news but I must admit I'm not even a catch,

>men compete with each other for status
>mens status is built around his work, his reputation
>women then choose the highest status men to mate with because higher status is indicative of better genes
>women only date across and up the dominance hierarchy
>that means they'll only date someone they see as their equal or better
>when women entered the workforce en mass in the 70's it completely tipped the scales
>doubled the labour force while halving the value of labour
>women were now competing for the same jobs as men
>mens status drops as they're pushed out of the workforce by women
>mens confidence shattered because their identity is closely tied to their work
>women given complete control over their reproduction with the pill
>women enrolling in university more than men now
>women getting a higher education means more and more of the male population are ineligible because of their comparatively low status
>women STILL manage to blame men for this crying "where have all the good men gone" when they've been running a 30 year feminist hate campaign against men
>men start dropping out of the race entirely

Historically we should have died down a mine, in an industrial accident or as fodder in a war. There's no benefit for a low status men from ever contributing to society any more. There's no payment, there's no privilege. The only thing we have to look forward to is raising some other niggas kids.

No thanks, I'd rather stay in and play video games with my friends. Enjoy it women, you're going to have to do all the work now because I won't.

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>>39465081
We wouldn't be here if we weren't right with those things.

>>39466606
This is exactly it right here. This should be stickied to the top of the board.

my coworker is ugly af and uses pics of him from highschool but he still pulls women on tindr because he has a big dick.

>guys
>straight guys

I've gone on about 15 dates with good looking interesting guys (dates not fucking) and I'm a 6/10 (generous) loser who just goes to community college. Not sure about number of matches but it's over 100. Sucks for straight guys women are even more superficial and sahallow than fags

>>39465727
yes, nihilism is futile,

but you're in denial lmao

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Looks are everything, saying otherwise is coping.

>>39466839
In too dumb to understand this graff please explain

>>39465081
I've got multiple hookups on tinder and I'm completely average looking, or maybe a 6/10 at best. None of them were fatties either.

>>39466873
The better your look - the better personality you have.

>>39465727

It's not an "attitude." It's simply facts. We can try and convince ourselves that stuff has meaning, and it might, but that meaning only exists with you. There isn't anything universal or whatever.

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>>39466892
>I'm completely average looking

If you were average looking you wouldn't be successful with woman. You don't know your own strength.

>>39466933
this is just what robots use to cope with their lack of success, most of my friends are better looking than me, and they get a lot more girls but I still get them with some effort. Sure it's not fair but that's how it is. Also knew a guy who was really fucking ugly, great guy, but he was a legit 3/10, acne scars everywhere and weird face shape. He hit the gym, got buff and after a couple months he was fucking a solid 7-8/10 girl.

>>39466963

Its just common sense, you're successful with woman so your face and body passes the vagina test. You may not see it cause you're not a girl, but you have something others guys don't

>He hit the gym, got buff

Again, looks. Just imagine all the reps he did just to get pussy. He had to move a mountain rock by rock just to have sex.

>>39467036
he had to move a mountain just to have sex for months and months with a really hot girl, rather than the lower quality ones he usually goes for.

>>39466896

Literally confirms the "Halo Effect" lol

>>39465193
One word, T r u m p

>tfw you were a weird looking manlet throughout most of school and when puberty hit you turned into a tall handsome guy
Online dating is easymode, I had a profile where the opening line said "I'm a lazy NEET with 0 ambition" and I still got messaged because a lot of girls thought "it must be a joke".

>>39467106
>Literally confirms the "Halo Effect" lol
That's basically what pic says.

>>39467153

Chads can get away with anything

I used to think I was a comedic genius with extreme social awareness because I have always been so well liked by people I encounter, turns out I am just good looking. Feels good.

>>39467106
Literally confirms robots are dumb as dick for believing in the halo meme.

>>39465142
This

Tinder will only attract these types of girls. It's a fucking dating app. Obviously biased

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>women want equality and to end oppression
>exhibit tyrannical despot attitudes whenever possible

ayyyyy lmaaaaooooo

>2017
>there are still people who don't know how Tinder is used by females

How is this even possible?

>>39469956
People are dumb, especially robots.

>>39466260
Please don't be so harsh on them. Their feelings are very fragile.

>>39465665
Status is much more important