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>meet a super qt shy girl when i was about 19 and she was

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>meet a super qt shy girl when i was about 19 and she was 17
>talked a lot for a while, she said she was asexual
>assumed she's not interested in relationships but we kept talking
>fast forward a year, turns out she had a huge crush on me and never been into anyone else before
>we start dating
>she's extremely shy and nervous but I treat her well
>we start living together
>play vidya games together and hang out
>she writes extremely long notes in her diary about how much she loves me
>is extremely embarssed and yells at me when i find them, but sometimes shows me a bit when i beg
>really wants to have kids together

>fast forward 4 years
>have had hundreds of arguments since then
>i kept slacking my education and i'm in the same dead end job as i was, barely finished a few courses in college
>she basically hates me a lot of the time now and is completely jaded
>we still tolerate each other, but the magic is gone
>it's sometimes hard to believe we're the same people as back then
> i have flash backs to how she was back then and literally start crying

someone end these feels, please take me back to years ago, i'll do it right this time
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>>39175580
what went wrong?
waht are your arguments about?
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If you're still together, you still have a chance to fix it. Don't waste this opportunity anon.
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>>39175580
fell for the woman meme
GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY BOARD NORMIE in an original way of course
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Why did you think the magic disappeared?
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>>39175618
random shit in day to day life
me being lazy
gradually becoming more and more rude to each other

we used to never swear at each other but that's long gone

>>39175664
I feel like I already betrayed her by being such a lazy faggot, she wanted to have kids really early but she's 23 soon, and I still have years until my degree is done
idk how to go back to how things were between us
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>>39175580
This is actually pretty interesting. Please tell us more about your relationship, when did it all go wrong?
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>>39175693
it happened slowly and gradually, i can't tell a specific point
slowly becoming angrier and angrier towards each other, allowing for more slips like that

also she got really mad when she found out about things relating to my ex gf
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>>39175691
This is biology. If you don't give her a baby these types of girls get worse and worse.

Also stop fucking around.

Damn I would kill to be in your position.
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>>39175580
was the change sudden, or was that gradual?
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>>39175691
first of all you should have knocked her up years ago if thats the case
second fucking work your job and study if you really want to finish college (not taht working without degree is bad) how hard is that

its not late to man up anon, its your own fault for being a huge pussy, now go pick up your ballsack and do whats right ffs
90% of us robots would kill for waht youve got and you just wasted it
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>>39175751
I know
I would do it now and raise them with what I have but she wants me to have a high paying job first
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>>39175767
i dont understand
are you the man of the house or is she?
stop being a pussy
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>>39175756
I think I do need some higher education to move to her country which is where we want to have a family, otherwise I'd end up in an even shittier job
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>>39175793
where do you two live exactly?
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>>39175785
Are you telling me to just impregnate her anyway? I thought of it desu, reverse baby trap
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Dont impregnate her. Babies only make shirt worse.
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>>39175580
Boo boo, poor little normie.
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>>39175811
im telling you that as a man you should take up the leading role
if you do not relationship is doomed

move together where its most convenient and start a family together, money will come with time, but you will never get younger
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You can nake things better the same way they got bad. Gradually do something everyday small
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>>39175852
>money will come with time xd
this is almost as bad as "god will provide"
Op, get your shit together before you decide to start a family.
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>>39175808
crappy country that isn't the USA
and we want to move to the USA

>>39175852
do you think I should just force the move? we don't want to have kids in this country
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>>39175895
thats not the point of what i said

the point was taht he fucking has enough money currently
after he finishes additional education/moves up he will increase his income and he can do it at whatever time
he can never turn the clock back and in no time theyll both end up as lonely angry 40 yearolds because they wanted 1k$ more paycheck
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>>39175706
>also she got really mad when she found out about things relating to my ex gf

Like what?
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>>39175580
Sounds like life to me. Every relationship has turbulent moments, and that's almost the point. You work through it in the interest of staying together.

Or leave her and liberate yourself from that cycle.
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>>39175901
usa is a meme mate
i presume your one of those eastern/central europeans who cant appreciate the place they live
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>>39175580
Did you at least get to fug her?
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>>39175942
Stuff I didn't tell her about her
She found some logs and got really mad that I used to like my ex and talked like a retard

delete your logs if you plan to have a yandere gf
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How to meet younger girls, Im in Uni and almost everyone is a left wing socialist parasite, so Im not interested in them. What do?
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>>39175580
Right in the feels op

Break up with her, only thing that works.
Only way to find happiness again
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>>39175927
it's not 1k$ more, I currently make a decent pay for my country but it's a deadend job
to get a high skill job in America I probably need to get a degree, or at least have enough money to be able to study in america for a trade

I have about 5k$ in savings right now, that's all
my parents left me nothing
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>>39175972
I've been there, it's a million times better
also she's from an upper middle class family, she isn't gonna want to raise kids in my shithole (which is not exactly eastern europe, has uglier nature and shittier climate)

>>39175979
yeah I took her virginity
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>>39175901
in my culture we call what you're doing:

lovite goluba na grani a imete vrabca v ruke
(trying to catch a dove on the branch while you have a sparrow in your hand)
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>>39176003
did you go through something similar?
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>>39176045
where exactly are you that its so bad
cambodia?
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>dating a shy girl
>dating an asexual
Bahaha you deserve everything you get
Asexuals are just mind-spooks
Shy girls are actually sluts in disguise
She's had endless sexual experiences that you cannot imagine, and she's been doing them behind your back you fool.
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>>39175580
When she said she was asexual was your cue to exit. Also, if she said shes asexual but wants kids then that was your cue to leave. You should leave now since she is a bitch.
The End.
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>>39176057
does it still apply when it's about the same person? i am not considering a different person

>>39176076
not that bad
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>>39176045
look i live in the fucking republic of croatia and i cant complain
unless you live in iraq, cambodia, yemen or something id say youre trying to get bread over the johnnycake
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>>39176093
>>39176079

I didn't elaborate in my story but she has grown to like me sexually since then. she just never masturbated before that or been attracted to anyone else so she thought she was asexual
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>>39176133
it means you have a good thing going, but you're letting it go to shit because of some high end fantasy that may or may not come true
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>>39176137
i'm in the middle east
not a muslim country though

but regardless, she doesn't want to have kids in this country and neither do i
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>>39176157
nice family life you could have now and be happy = sparrow in your hand

fantasying about america that will probably turn out to be squat but looks good = dove on the branch you're catching

and your lives will fail because of it
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>>39176176
whats wrong with israel
its one of the best places to live in
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>>39176190
the thing is, it's not really a fantasy for her, she grew up there
and for me - i need to get my shit together and get a marketable skill

>>39176207
hardly
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>>39175580
The reality is that the chemical process that makes love feel so good has a shelf life of approximately 2 years. After that it's really subject to how you guys are able to continue to tolerate eachother and how committed you are to keeping a dying thing alive essentially.

Most cases, yours included, people just let it die. I know this doesn't make you feel better, but be happy that you had 4 years. It's a lifetime more than most of us will ever get.
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>>39175580
I dated an asexual for 4 years. Worst experience in my whole life. I still feel those emotions of wanting her here with me but I know that that's all she could do and enjoy. She can't give me that full release a relationship is supposed to have. So I say fuck that. Keep your chins up and I'm sure you'll make it through. Dump her and move on. It will be better in the end.
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>>39176250
no sun will warm you as that of your homeland anon
i advise you not to try catch the dove on the branch, but the decision is up to you

dont say you werent warned
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>>39175767
If she is already like this without kids, WITH kids it will be 100% about her and you will officially have been checked off her life.
DONT DO IT. I know it hurts that things are failing, but these things cant even be fixed once the damage is done.
The emotional attachment that people have to eachother is so fickle that it can't take much stress.

TLDR don't have kids or marry her, it will end up loveless and you will actually have no way out.
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>>39176297
it's hardly your homeland when your parents came to it in their 20s
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>>39175580
You got complacent and assumed having a girlfriend was the end game. You had the worst case of pre-celebration ever, essentially.

Forget about her in your main life. Treat her well, of course, but focus all your spare attention on finishing college and getting a better job. Then you can refocus on her, or not if you leave her or she leaves you.

You can't build up a relationship as this monumental thing like you did otherwise when you get one you'll give up on everything else. Would this have happened if you made friends with some dude? I doubt it.
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>>39176298
I think it's different when the girl you have kids with was a virgin before you
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>>39176320
its the land of your ancestors and hectolitres of blood were spilled so you could live there now the life you deserve and youd prefer to live in a shithole full of corrupt and decadent people
even i was taught those biblical stories as a kid
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>>39176335
I have close friends but I sometimes didn't hang out with them much at all, especially when they were being busy with their own studying.

but what you're saying makes sense. problem is I was always a lazy piece of shit academically.
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>>39176380
Me too, man. You just gotta commit, it's a pain in the ass. Tell her this, too. Say like "Hey, I've realized that I've grown complacent academically, and I need to get school done over all else. I'm really sorry for how I've been in the past few years, and I'm making a change right now". Mean it, too. Tell her that you might spend a little less time with her each day, but that you won't ignore her, and as I said, genuinely mean it. Nothing gets a girls pussy more wet than a driven guy.
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>>39175580
>dating an asexual
>dating someone for fucking years under the age of 30
>moving in with your first gf

WHO COULD HAVE FORSEEN SUCH TRAGEDY?!
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>>39176370
maybe if I trace my entire family line for 2000 years then 0.1% of me would have been in this land

my genes were altered by different land
not the usa though
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>>39176407
But DON'T say it in the middle of an argument. Normally I'd suggest praying before you do it, but I doubt that you're religious, so I guess meditate.
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>>39176407
it's kind of a problem when i've been saying shit like this non stop for the past year
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>>39176419
to be honest she got sexual attractions to make after that, and she isn't my first gf
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>>39176432
and?
my ancestors all lived around river pripyat milennia ago
i still call myself the same despite living in pannonia
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>>39176451
Then don't say it. Do it, and don't tell her. IF she asks why you haven't spent so much time with her, tell her why.

What really helps is setting realistic goals for each day. I will do one quiz or whatever per day and then I will be done by this day. Then you have a set goal.

And you can't get frustrated if you don't meet that goal, like if you miss one day. The important part is getting right back on the wagon.
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>>39176468
tfw no chernobyl bf
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>>39175901
Which country?

Origami
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>>39176473
this is too beta approach
id say its better to man up and get serious
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>>39176473
it's hard when 'spending time with her' is still a thing because we're in the same apartment as each other, i literally see her most of the day especially if i'm studying at home

but yeah, gotta have some consistency and persistency and stop browsing 4chan so much
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>>39176500
and do what? slap her and impregnate her?
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>>39175580
All the people I know that are in successful relationships say the same thing. I'll use my grandparents as an example, because they've been together 60 years and are still madly in love.
They all say you need to fall in love again. That at times things may seem weird, that the magic might start wilt. People change, jobs, living conditions, external stressors. But that throughout all of that, when the outcome looks bad, you need to keep going. That the stagnation and routineness is what causes most of the problems. What was once a fun past time, is now just something you do because you've always done it. He said when they would suddenly change their life up, things always got better, they fell in love again because life was exciting again. Then, those old rituals you had become nostalgic. Then, down the road you start doing them again, because you only remember the excitement of them when they were new. Over time you build up an arsenal of these things you enjoy together, and are able to fine tune it so only the best of the best are left. By that point, the other person is no longer your gf/wife, but part of you. You're a 2 part entity that can't live without the other. Some call it co-dependant, but really it's the truest form of love. They still do thing without each other, her Wednesday brunches with the girls, his 2 week hunting and fishing trips a few times a year. But he said nothing in the world makes him happier than coming home to her and feeling whole again.
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>>39176552
this is really detailed and pragmatic advice, thanks
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>>39175580
It's depressing cause it sounds legit.Stop being a douchebag and show her that you love her, or just end the relationship.
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>>39176534
act like a man instead of wasting everyones time and nerves
they live for years in a standstill so he obviously isnt approaching it properly

my people may not be super civilized and brilliant like the ashkenazi, but we at least know how to treat our women and respect our homeland

>>39176496
ive always wanted to see it
hopefully once i finish law school
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>>39176519
And stop playing vidya.

I love doing it, but I've pretty much given it up so I can wrap up my school and get on with my life.
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>>39176604
should i study hard and fuck her hard?
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>>39176599
You're welcome. I've been in your shoes, almost exactly. I lost the only other human I've ever loved because of it. It makes me want to kill myself every day. If I found a genie, and he offered me 3 wishes I would wish only to go back to 2012 when we first met. Having a second chance is the only thing in life that I want.
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>>39176806
its in your head
you need to have a mentality of a man and not that of a little insecure kids (no insult intended)
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>>39176901
how did you end up losing her in the end?
what could have prevented it?
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>>39176939
I dont know what things you include in this and what your perception is
I'm dominant to her and in bed, I work out
but I'm lazy as fuck academically
I don't know what you consider manly
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>>39176999
i meant in life
it doesnt matter if youre lazy as long as you get result

you should never let yourself be commanded and pushed around by any women even the slightest
>im sorry ill be better and change...
completely wrong you need to be a person on his place and set boundaries or women will push you around your whole life and yuo will never have a normal relationship
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>>39177061
I know general advice like this and agree with it
I am in need of extremely specific advice
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>>39177103
ill tell you eternal wisdom:
respect the legacy of your ancestors
be happy with what you have now instead of seeking for better fantasies
always be the boss in your life and never let others decide for you and pull you around
there wil lenver be perfect circumstances and you will never be able to turn the clock back
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>>39177181
>be happy with what you have now instead of seeking for better fantasies

this isnt good avice for self improvement
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why don't you tell her that you're sick of being angry at each other and you will stick to your education (which you will have to do if you don't want to lose her. She's most likely pissed at you because of that reason and this might calm things a little bit down.

Or is this stupid? I don't know because I was never this close to another person.
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>>39177288
It's true but I've been saying this without much results for a while now
just need to quietly get my shit together and be assertive with her
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>>39176298
listen to this guy right here. if things are bad without kids now, they'll be 10000% worse with them
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>>39175580
she expected you to grow into a man that could take care of her, so that she could marry you and take care of your kids. You didn't pan out, and she's regretting her decision to pursue you. I hope that stormfront logo on your wojak means you have enough traditional values to see why she would be put off when her man doesn't want to support her.
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>>39177181
>be happy with what you have now instead of seeking for better fantasies
I agree that you should be happy with what you do have, but you should also always strive to be better and aim higher.
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>>39177427
yeah
need to get my shit together so i don't end up like my dad

but i'm a man, i can waste more years and then find another young qt to impregnate later on

i just miss her obsessive young love, and shyness
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>tfw no nazi robot bf
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