>tfw will never experience a psychedelic trip What's

way less visual and way more of a headfuck than you think

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Literlal doinf it ieufht now anon and I feel like semi dead, it's not worht it

>>38799206
I think everyone in the world should do mushrooms at least once in their lifetimes. It gives you a clarity that I would liken to having an uncomfortable pressure relieved. Everything around you that's natural is beautiful, significant and interesting. It's like being a kid again where you're seeing everything for the first time again. It also removes all of your hatred and anger for things and allows to look at everything in the world with zero bias. It even makes solving your own personal issues seem so simple and even the worlds problems seem like they have clear solutions that can only be achieved through a complete lack of bias.

Also it makes music orgasmic and generally enhances all forms of entertainment. It's a good time but you can only really do it when you're still young and don't have shit to do nor any real demons weighing you down. If you're not in a good place mentally, they have an opposite effect and really bring into a hellish place that will make you never want to do them again.

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unless you live in a fucking war state then its pretty damn easy and affordable to buy psychedelics

even if you are autistic enough to not know how to use the dark net then theres always research chems

>>38799206
You can experience it if you want to.

I get all my psychedelics off the dark web, never had a problem.

>>38799424
What sites? How much are they usually?

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>>38799206
It fucks you up in the best way possible. I drew pic related last time I tripped. It's supposed to be a full explanation of the way human conciousness operates.
Funny thing is, I know it doesn't look like anything to anyone else, but I still understand what I was thinking when I drew it. I could try to explain it if anyone cares enough to listen

>>38799466
>I could try to explain it if anyone cares enough to listen
Please do

Example of what it feels like with acid:

During the come-up, you start to laugh at everything, your visual field expands and every sensory modality is enhanced, especially touch.
Everything you touch feels amazing. even touching your body feels like the best thing ever.

As you come-up, it's like anything you think about is interpreted in a positive light, and you feel more motivated.

As the peak of the experience is coming, the "mystical" phase starts.
At that point you start to feel an overwhelming sense of awe, like you are getting closer to the truth of the universe, like you are coming in contact with something important and significant.
It seems like anything you are doing in the moment, or that you did in the past, has a purpose related to that "truth".

Now, at the peak, depending on the dose, you can start to lose our sense of self and ego.
If the dose is medium-high, you will start to forget who you are. You will start to forget what objects do, that you have parents and friends, who these people are, that you are a human, that you live on earth etc. A
At this point it's better to just lie down, close our eyes, and just let go.
Incredible things can happen at this point. And most of them cannot be described with words and it's not even clear that I can actually remember what happens.

What can be said is that when you come out of it, you will have a more motivated outlook on life, you will feel like you love your family and friends and that you love them with all your heart.

>continuation


During the afterglow, after the peak, it's going to be among the best experiences of happiness and serenity you will have have, and that you will remember for the rest of your life.
Incredible levels of introspection can be reached, and discussing them with somebody else makes no sense, because at the end of the day they are things that are so intimate, personal and ineffable, that cannot be described to others.

The week after the experience you feel clear-headed, crisp, productive, focused, serene, and that you are in a good place to value the things in your life, or to change them for the better.

>>38799333
I'm glad you haven't experienced shroom bad trip, my man.

I've only done it a couple of times, normally when I'm relaxing with friends. LSD tabs btw.

The best way to describe the thought process on LSD is that you're extremely inquisitive and attentive.

For example, you might see a little ant on the floor. You'll start to wonder about what the ant is doing, what its life is like, how does the ant perceive the world, then you get into deep existential stuff - how do I relate to the ant, why do ants exist, is there a hidden purpose/meaning behind ants and so on.

Sound-wise is where it gets super funky. I usually like listening to trance music, and this may sound crazy but you'll know when you do it. When you shut your eyes, you can see music create images in your mind. You can pick out EVERY single sound in that music that you would NEVER have been able to hear before. It's like unlocking a new world, where you can "examine" and "focus" on each little sound that creates fantastic images in your head.

For example, this sounds cliche as fuck, but when I listen to trance music I can see stars and supernovas, exploding and moving each time the beat pounds. That's super cool.

However, the deepest part is what's called "ego death". You get super existential and you see the world without any biases or opinions. >>38799333 puts it very well. It's like you achieve some clarity and see through all the bullshit in your life and it gives you a sense that all your problems are easily solvable.

It's a bizarre but really enjoyable experience.

>>38799604
>shroom bad trip
bad shroom trip? I had one and I think it was one of the last times I ever did it. E v e r y t h i n g sucked. I stayed curled up under a blanket, hoping I would just die right there. Couldn't even get warm, I was so miserable. It wasn't even cold. That was the most hollow I'd ever been in my life.

>>38799567
>>38799576
Remember though that this is what happens if your set and setting are good, meaning if you are in a relatively safe place during the peak where you can let go and not think about others, your responsabilities, etc, for that specific amount of time.

If you do it with shitty people you barely know or at a crowded place like a festival and the dose is high enough, you are very likely to have a bad trip and a terrible experience.

Make sure that you are alone, in a safe place (like your room, closed with the key, during a day where you don't have to do anything).

>>38799495
I'll try
Ignore the scribbles around the three lines, they're just decorations. The real focus is that "Trinity" in the middle.

When I was high I started thinking about how everything we think about can be separated into two opposites; good & bad, right & wrong, left & right, plus & minus, positive & negative, here & there, black & white, etc etc. That's what the black and white lines represent, two objective opposites. So, what's that third line there for?
I got thinking about how, even though we think of everything as two distinct opposites, there's always a third one. One that's neither here nor there, and yet both at the same time. An mysterious third option that dosen't conform to our binary world-view. The way the human brain works is to find this third option and, in turn, discover it's binary quality. Then, once we've done that, we discover the new third option in-between the new binary, and go through the whole process again.

I'm not sure if this sounds crazy or just stupid. I think it's like speaking a new language; you get to the point where you can understand fully it but can't speak it very well to anyone else.

>>38799656
At least you were aware of time and reality of this world. Pure terror and despair impossible to experience while not high.
Was my fault to get such a fucking bad trip, but just saying that psychedelics are not to be played with.

>>38799656
I feel that with shrooms is easier to have a bad experience, whereas with acid (as long as the set and setting is good) is much easier to have an overwhelmingly positive one.

>>38799206
Get some cough syrup bro, it's easy. Anyone can buy it

4 rules
Cars are real
Cops are real
You can't fly
Your not going to die

>>38799206
I think it's different for everyone. I cannot really explain it, there is the component of changed sensations like visual halucinations. Music will feel very different too, I've listened to songs I didn't recognize when sober again. The feeling of time gets altered pretty intensley. A few minutes can feel like hours, this can be good or bad. Taste is awesome, eating something you like a few hours into the trip is just so fucking tasty. More important is what is does to your mind. I felt like I could see new perspectives, experience things like other people would experience them, at least that's what I thought it was. For me it also has a kind of religious component, always felt in peace with things.

Then, however, you can get unlucky too. States of confusion, a feeling like you're getting too detached from reallity, it can feel threatening, logic doesn't work for you anymore you're getting lost in your own delusions, some people find it hard to cope with that. Another bad route can be a feeling of boringness/nothingness or sadness.

I've had about 100 experiences with shrooms (mainly it was shrooms for me as they are cheap and easy to grow), LSD and mescaline. only a handful were ever bad. I'd recommend doing it, there was a time in my life when I did it too often (that's where the bad experiences occured) because I was searching for something I thought I could find there.

After long reflections I'd say it's a great thing to do every other two years or so, maybe just once. There is nothing real to find, at least I didn't find it, but it is interesting to see things through another perspective and my long journeys definatley changed me and I guess for the better.

You can grow shrooms yourself. Look up smartific, avalon magic plants, zamnesia, there's hundreds of these shops. You can also buy San pedro Cacti off fucking ebay or amazon.

My usual dose for tripping on shrooms is about 4-5g of dried material.

>>38799206
depends on the drug
>acid
pretty colors that move
>mushrooms
even more pretty colors and a lot more moving amazing body High
>dmt
worst/best 15 minutes of my life

Anyone /smokedDMT/ here?

>>38799893
/smokedDCK/ here

>>38799668
It sounds like Hegelian dialectics. You get the thesis and its opposite, the antithesis, then the third option is a mix of the two which enhances aspects of both, the synthesis. Like neoliberalism being a mix between capitalism and socialism. That synthesis then becomes the new thesis, and a new antithesis is formed. Anarcho-capitalism could be seen as an antithesis to neoliberalism. Your idea makes a lot of sense, but I can see how much deeper it must have felt on acid.

>>38799668

Could you give an example of this decision making process in action?

Also I'm a bit confused, in your first post you said the drawing was a representation of hiw consciousness works but now you're speaking as if it's about how 'will' or choice acts??

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>>38799893
Yes.

>be me
>smoke the harsh thing
>look at my body. It looks like an alien, almost orange. my right hand looks like it has a lot more than five fingers, but for some reason I can't count the actual number. Not kidding
>then lie down, start to see fast geometric patterns, mostly purple. Feels like something incredibly significant is going on. I feel a presence, like a goddess, like a witch. The visions are not that clear, but they remind me a little bit of this picture, with only one entity and me not fully being able to look at it


I feel like dmt is more of a scrambled headfuck, doesn't last very long, it's confusing and there is not much that you can actually use in real life.

Acid is a lot more therapeutic, more useful, more positive, and it actually makes your life better.

dmt launches you in what feels like another universe for a brief amount of time, takes you back to reality, and then you are like "wtf? what am I supposed to do with this fuckery?"

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>>38799206

Psychedelics are basically a reset to your life. What I mean by this is that when you take psychedelics it makes you question everything you had been taught in your entire life. It may be good but for some, it's a bad road that they're destined to follow. Unfortunately that road will sometimes lead them to post modernism (Think of the hippies of the 1960s). In my experience psychedelics made me appreciate literature, traditionalism, and wisdom a lot more than before.

It taught me the importance of following wisdom from generation before us instead of trusting our intuition. Also, forgot to mention that I stopped believing that I had depression. It's going to take some time before you see changes because it all happens instantly and you need to wait put the pieces together. In truth, I don't recommend everyone in the whole world to take psychedelics because some people are born stupid and will never grasp the complex ideas they get while on psychedelics. I've seen some stories people freak out on psychedelics and what they only get out of it is how pretty the visuals looked or how they went crazy running around in their underwear.

Psychedelics are probably my favorite drugs because they're more like tools unlike other drugs which people use primarily for escapism. I'd say my life has changed for the better but it's not advisable to take psychedelics on a daily basis or else you'll just go crazy.

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>>38800046
Nice picture anon, here is another one from one of the best psychedelic artists, salviadroid

>>38800046

Why do you believe that people suddenly "get" all these amazing ideas on psychedelics? I mean where are they coming from? Why would the brain suddenly start coming up with amazing and true insights into reality it never had when not functioning on psychedelics?

Doesn't it make much more sense that dopamine or something like that is altered by psychedelics so that thoughts SEEM incredibly profound in the moment?

I've had periods where I'd be up st night coming up with insight after insight, but then when I look at my notes the next day I realise most of the profundity was just a sensation I had at the time.

>>38800018
Actually, that's really similar to my experience. DMT leaves more questions about this world than it might answer.
One simple feeling I got while in DMT realm still haunts me: like DMT reminds me of something simple and familiar - can't say what exactly - that we people forget while we live. Before the life and after we come back somewhere where it felt like home.
I'm very sceptical about drugs and their possible connection with metaphysics, but DMT is... really out of this world, man. Still can't say that it was a GOOD experience.

>>38800193
The brain already is capable of having them, it's just that the psychedelic allows the brain to see them, thanks to a much less biased view of the world.

A good video about this topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrYl9krZksk

>>38799206
LSD opened up my third eye and gave me a 6th sense.

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>>38799913
>Your idea makes a lot of sense, but I can see how much deeper it must have felt on acid.
Kek, yeah, the whole point is it's super simple and seems stupid. Where I lose most people is when I tell them this basic principle can be used to explain literally everything in existence.

>>38799917
>consciousness works
>how 'will' or choice acts
I'm sorry, is there a difference?

One example I kept thinking about is "is" vs "is not." That's basic. Everything either is or is not, correct?
Maybe not. Look at Schrodinger's cat. If you're not familiar, it's actually a really simple concept; You put a cat inside a bunker with a fuckton of dynamite. The dynamite is set to a charge that, in one hour, has a 50% chance of exploding, and a 50% chance of not exploding. You wait one hour. Without opening the bunker, tell me if the cat is dead or alive. Obviously, you can only speculate.
Schrodinger postulates that, before you open the bunker to look, the cat is both dead and alive. He theorizes that, by opening the bunker and looking, you create two different strings, one in which the cat is dead, and one in which the cat is alive. But what is it before you look? Both? Neither? It's the third option in-between two objective opposites. It's the third, yellow line. It is and it isn't.

It changes you

>>38800303
It opened my third eye too. One in a very strange place, a brown eye, kinda stinky. What came out of it was paranormal. Got me spooked.

>>38800046
Some of the stuff experienced in a psychedelic high won't make sense for a long time, if ever. It's a good idea to not get too committed to any ideas that might pop into one's head in that time. I believe it was one of the Mckenna brothers that said he psychedelics made him different, but necessarily better.

>>38800193
As far as I know, psychedelics affect the "novelty" sector of the brain. In practice it seems like it gives the world a temporary feeling of freshness where even minute things can seem intensely interesting. So an idea that would normally be mundane can become the most interesting thing in your life, capable of completely occupying your thoughts. Sometimes the insights people have are really just delusions, but powerful ones that motivate change.

>>38800354
I see it more as a moment of inspiration or "eureka" moment. If you can learn to focus it, to understand it, it has great potential. But most drug users (especially now) are just looking for a recreational high, so they write off anything they thought about during the high as just stupid shit.
What the drug really does is allow you to connect very advanced topics to very simple ones. That's why someone will feel they gained some profound understanding of something while they're high, but once they're sober, it sounds like they're just saying shit everyone already knew. They are; only difference is, for a brief moment, they saw the gravity that comes with these seemingly simple concepts.

>>38800322

I have never been to New York. There are buildings there or sights to see that I'd be completely unaware of. You can ask me what a certain building looks like and I can only speculate, or if you ask whether it exists at all - I can only answer yes or no.

In reality someone in New York knows that New York exists and can state that regardless of what I believe or what I claim - certain buildings in New York existed or did not exist.

My lack of knowledge of an event doesn't mean that the event both has and has not happened.

You get to view yourself from an outsider's perspective and realize how pathetic and insignificant you truly are and then you get even more depressed.

>>38800564
Kek, funny coincide. I live in New York.
Then which one is it? Without looking, tell me, Is the cat dead or alive?

Go to a hippie festival. Find a hook up. It isn't that difficult.

>>38800591

There is no cat. You live in New York, right? I have only ever seen NY in video. For all I know it's just an elaborate conspiracy and NY doesn't exist. But you're there right now so you can attest that it exists, right? REGARDLESS of what I believe or know - there is an objective reality, is there not?

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As some other anons have said, music is incredible under psychedelics.

You are able to listen to all the instruments separately in a way that you could never have done while sober

>>38800644
>For all I know it's just an elaborate conspiracy and NY doesn't exist.
I think you're trying to make a joke here, but yeah. You're right. It's all just a movie set built back in 70's. I'm just one of a handful of extras who pretends to be a pedestrian in those videos you've sen. How'd you know?

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The visuals are overrated, but it's hard for me to explain how you feel inside your head. It's like your deepest feelings and fears come to life.

This is the best channel about the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6QseKGAVYk

>>38800686

You're missing my point. In the version of Schrodingers cat that you gave me, we could set up a camera inside the box and a third observer could know what the reality is. Just because I'm unaware of the state of the cat doesn't mean the cat is both alive and dead and in an inbetween state.

>>38800644
New York exists dude I've been there. The buildings look a lot smaller irl than they do on tv. Also I knew my way perfectly there without ever stepping foot there before, like I've been there before. I had the same feeling when I visited Normandy, previous lives I have been to those places.

>>38800585
that's why I stopped with psychs and just do speed now. Psychedelics give me unnecessary acute insight on how fucked up I am.

>>38800729
>You're missing my point.
no u

>we could set up a camera inside the box
Wow, you're really missing the point. The point is that, by observing cat, we're creating a reality in which the cat is one way or the other. It follows that, before anyone observes it, it's neither dead nor alive. Think of it as an expansion of "if a tree falls in a forest and nobody's around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

>>38800773
I still enjoy it though. It's exhilaration from the existential horror that keeps me coming back. I feel like Judge Holden from blood meridian or some shit.

>>38799466
That's funny. I drew the same shit while I was on LSD.

>>38800792

Forgive me but the question about the tree is just a linguistic trick in Zen to befuddle people. Logically if a tree falls it makes a sound regardless of whether anyone is around to hear it. Sound as we define it doesn't have to be heard to exist.

Psychadelics are very overrated. People like to pretend they give them some sort of clarity, but the truth is that they might aswell be any other drug. It's just a different, slower kind of 'high' than what you experience when drinking alcohol or doing cocaine.

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>>38800717
Btw, I had a terrible trip on shrooms once, but even bad trips can be good. At the end of the trip, I was different, I no longer was that shy person I was, I was full of love and just wanted to hug everyone. I could finally understand what the hell the hippies were talking about and they talk about love. But after just one day I was back to normal.

Interesting but way overrated and can just be very uncomfortable under some circumstances some of which are totally out of your influence.
Most of the stories you'll hear are greatly exaggerated from pretentious pseudo philisophical cunts.

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Anyone else get devious on LSD? After the peak I feel like I want to break things or generally be a bit of a cunt.

>>38800921
>Logically if a tree falls it makes a sound regardless.
Maybe logically, but not in reality. If you can't observe the tree, you can only speculate it makes a sound. As in, like the life of the cat, you don't know for sure.

>>38800818
Really? Post pics, maybe we saw the same shit

>>38800976

When I'm on my peak I start roasting everyone who thinks they're the shit. From celebrities to criminals.

>>38801031

But at that point you've simply reached the level of Solipsism. You may as well have just said "it's all in your head, man"

>>38800976
Whenever I'm high I like to give people logical fallacies, it never fails to enrage them

>>38801087
Ignore the tree connection, I shouldn't have brought it up. We can both agree that it probably makes a noise.

But in the cat example, the cat has an equal chance of being dead or being alive. So, which is it? Before you look, is it dead, or is it alive?

>>38801072
Yeah sometimes I get really racist. I never really felt the whole one-ness thing when on it. I generally just feel good about myself.
>>38801092
Like paradoxes or some shit? Set of all sets and shit like that?

>>38801133
Stupid shit like showing people something, covering it up, asking them if it's still there, then telling them it's not. They always get mad and pull the cover away and say "it's there faggot," at which point I pretend they're a magician and just created it out of thin air.
It's stupid but I like how mad about it people will get

>>38801131
The cat is either alive or dead. It being alive or dead does not change by someone looking at it.

>>38801183
Kek. That's good. I never really act on the feeling to be a cunt. I just generally just go a walk away from the group for an hour or so and think about breaking shit or doing stupid stuff. I've only tripped maybe 4 times or so. Maybe i'll start to get the one-ness and all that interconnected shit once the novelty of being on lsd wears off.

>>38801131

The cat doesn't have an equal chance of being alive or dead simply because I haven't opened the box. It must be one or the other. I think you must have misread Schrodingers Cat analogy or something.

>>38801227
>>38801266
I think we're getting too hung up on the cat example. This is only an example used to describe subatomic particles. That by observing them, rather than simply knowing what they are, we "solidify" them into having a single property, created multiple "realities" in which they have different properties. The question I'm trying to answer is "what are they before we observe them?" You're getting mad because the whole point is that question is unanswerable.

>>38801314
>That by observing them, rather than simply knowing what they are, we "solidify" them into having a single property, created multiple "realities" in which they have different properties.
That is pure speculation, and irrational to boot.

>>38801376
That's why Schrodinger's Cat is called a "paradox" and not a "law." It's meant to not make sense.

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>>38800717
The guy is pretty fun.

This is my favorite video from him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCU8wxCdKIE

I want to hear some more DMT stories

>>38801411
'Paradoxes' are just examples of flawed reasoning.

>>38801314

Holy shit anon, I'm not getting 'mad' at all. I humoured you from start to finish and at every step you're saying "ok ignore my last example we're getting hung up on that".

Also the thing you're saying about particles is something hippies and druggies have been saying about quantum physics for decades, and it's a misrepresentation. In reality, subatomic physics are so complex, things are so small and the interconnections are so complex that the maths used to study particles breaks down unless you settle on certain assumptions. This doesn't mean that he observer's consciousness is literally the thing that creates the final outcome.

>>38801456
Maybe not mad, but you clearly don't understand Scrodinger's Cat. I wasn't saying ignore my last example, I just knew you weren't getting it and I wanted to move on.

>>38801314
Cringe

Aryegbejaj

>>38801531
Not an argument

Ajdhhsha

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>>38799206
you're missing out on so much man. you can buy this shit on the deep web if you're a shut in.

>>38801450
Paradoxes are things that make sense even though they shouldn't.

>>38801439
Honestly, it's very hard to explain the DMT experience. It's really different from all other psychedelics, which you mostly can describe and differ
Explaining DMT feels like explaining color green to a blind person.

>>38801674
Paradoxes don't make sense. If you mention any paradox, I will tell you exactly what the flawed reasoning is.

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>>38801436
>>38800717
>youtubers
>youtuber fanboys

>>38801839
Schrodinger's Cat, before you look is the cat alive or dead?

>>38801815

This is why retard like you shouldn't be doing psychedelics. I don't what is it with your type who think they're edgy because they had a surreal experience that they "just can't explain it brooooo". Fuck you.

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>>38799392
>>38799424
>>38801601
Stop telling people about this shit my dudes! We dont need anymore attention.

>>38801901
Why are you getting mad? He's not saying "lol it's just too deep for you bro," he literally cannot describe the experience.

>>38801894
It is a hypothetical scenario in which it is unspecified whether the cat is dead or alive.

>>38799206
It's trippy OP

>>38801949

>he literally cannot describe the experience.

Because he's stupid. That's why. It's not that hard to explain a DMT experience to someone who hasn't tried it. "Hey anon how does DMT feel?" Oh I'll tell you

>My floor turned to gears and I was in this alien city
>I lost my ego and didn't know what I was
>My whole body turned into an alien body similar to the thing from fantastic 4

It's that fucking simple. No need to act like an edgy tryhard because "my experience was 2deep4you bro".

>>38801439
Okay
>Purchased a fair amount of freebase from dark net (later on changa would prove easier to consume)
>Had also bought a little pipe to melt and inhale from
>Multiple times already I had tried and failed to breakthrough
>Worst experience I drank to calm nerves and it felt as though the psychedelic presence was angry at me for it and told me never to do it again
>One night, take something like 4-6 Valium I don't quite remember
>Feel like it's perfectly calmed by nerves enough to smoke without pain or fear
>Open my bedroom window that looks straight out onto the grassy backyard
>Pump and pump the smoke back with ease and comfort
>Next thing I know I turn around and the room has been transferred into some other worldly dimension
>Look at my backyard and multiple male silhouettes made of stardust and galaxies are standing there and congratulating me for making it so far
>They're proud and happy of me
>Close my eyes and enter a never ending void of Egyptian pyramid like imagery and triangles
>Recover very quickly and sleep like a baby
Hope that's ok :)

>>38801991
Yeah, that's what it is. But in the hypothetical scenario, before you see it, is the cat alive or dead?

>>38801601
Not since AB and hansa are gone lmao

It's interesting to see what substances can do to our mind and what we see. Fascinating.

>>38802008
You can give people a few isolated examples of the things you saw, but thoes don't really fully explain the experience to anyone else. It's like describing the taste of a strange food to someone. You can tell them details like "it was slimy" or "it was slightly sweet, but also sour," and maybe you'll give them a pretty good idea of the basic gist of it. But the only way they'll really know what the food tastes like is for them to eat it themsleves

>>38802023
It is either or. As I said, it is unspecified. That is hardly a paradox.

>>38802094

>But the only way they'll really know what the food tastes like is for them to eat it themsleves

Woah really makes me think man! It's not like the same thing applies to food, music, movies, driving a car etc.

>>38802114
You're not answering my question. The cat can only be dead or alive, one or the other. Not both or neither. Which is it?

>>38802183
I have answered your question.
>The cat can only be dead or alive
There is no cat. There is a hypothetical scenario, in which certain premises has been established. Whether the cat is dead or alive has not been established.

>>38802144
I think we have enough of vocabulary to describe food, music, movies, and driving. But drug trips are a different demon, they're much harder to explain, especially to someone with no drug experience.
t. Someone who's tried explaining his LSD trip to people who've never tried it. I can never really describe the full emotional catharsis I experienced, It's not quite like anything else I'd felt before.

>>38802209
Now you're talking like a druggie. Of course there's no cat, it's a hypothetical. But if you really put a cat in a bunker with the explosives and the 50/50 chance, without looking, do you have a dead cat or an alive cat?
>Hint: you can't answer this question. Stop acting like you can. Then you might actually understand it.

>>38802144
You are a faggot who never tried any psychedelic and doesn't know anything about the complexity of the experience, only read this thread, seized on superficial aspects of the experience and now pretends to know what a psychedelic trip is in its entirety.


>in b4 "no bro, I already tried everything, believe me"

>>38802281
Are you really this retarded? Is English your second or third language or smthn?i

>>38802281
>But if you really put a cat in a bunker with the explosives and the 50/50 chance, without looking, do you have a dead cat or an alive cat?
You have a dead cat or you have a live cat. Looking changes nothing except your awareness as to the status of the cat.

>>38800018
Oh shit I've seen almost that exact image while tripping on salvia.

>>38799206

Read this about recreational Ayahuasca: https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=52019

Here is where to buy it ultracheap, half a euro per trip or so: https://maya-ethnobotanicals.com/herbs/by-category/ayahuasca

2g Syrian Rue + 3g Chaliponga = OOMMMFFFFFGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>38802325
Calm the fuck down bro

>>38802343
>Or
No, you don't. The cat is one thing. You say yourself that looking at the cat dosen't change it's state. That means it's one way. It can't be "dead or alive."

You see this circular logic? This logically fallacy? That's what makes this a paradox. What don't you understand about this?

>>38802398
>No, you don't. The cat is one thing.
There is no cat. There is an idea in your head, pertaining to a scenario in which an imaginary cat can be dead or alive.
>It can't be "dead or alive."
You are right it can't be, but we aren't told if it is alive or if it is dead.
>That's what makes this a paradox
There isn't any paradox. You just grapple with the idea of what a hypothetical scenario is.

>>38802464
Stop getting so hung up on the fact that this is a hypothetical. You look stupid.
Were told that there is an equal chance of it being dead or alive at a certain point. We are asked to tell wether the cat is alive or dead. We cannot answer. That does not mean the cat is "either alive or dead." We just don't know.
I can see why Einstein changed the cat scinario to be so hard to understand. It was to keep morons who can't think in hypotheticals out

>>38802547
That's not a paradox. That is just a hypothetical scenario in which you aren't told whether the imaginary cat is dead or alive.
>We just don't know.
Yes, we don't know, because it isn't specified. That is what I told you in my first reply.

>>38802600
Jesus Christ you're one godawful moron. Of course it's a fucking hypothetical. Do you not understand what a hypothetical is? It's something that could happen. In the reality of this hypothetical (if this scenario were REAL, since you're too dumb to think in hypotheticals) is. The. Cat. Dead. Or. Alive?

I'd say this feels like talking to a child, but that would be an insult to children. There are some kid's I've told this who've grasped it way faster than you.

>>38802660
You're just trying to "win" a non-existant argument, because that other guy called you stupid.
I have said from the beginning, and I quote: it is unspecified whether the cat is dead or alive.
That means, in plain english, we don't know, because we aren't told.

>>38802705
It isn't unspecified. If you were to really do this, would the cat's life be "unspecified?" No. It's one way. Which is it?

>>38802734
Let me illustrate it for you.
Example 1. Imagine a box with a cat. The cat is alive(specifying the status of the cat).
Example 2. Imagine a box with a cat. You don't know if the cat is alive or dead. (not specifying the status of the cat).

>>38802787
At think point I think you understand what I'm talking about and are just pretending to be stupid. Whatever the case, you clearly don't understand what a paradox is.

>>38802920
Calling me stupid doesn't change the fact that I am right. The only one of us who has been called stupid by a third party is, infact, you.

>>38802547
>We are asked to tell wether the cat is alive or dead. We cannot answer.
Actually in theory we could. Information (or entropy) can still travel from the inside of the box to the scientists waiting in the other room. Mechanical waves can travel through the ground and furniture and air, photons are emitted inside the box, absorbed by the box, travel inside the box by being absorbed and remitted, until the are outside the box, and so on.

It's not just that the experiment is badly made and it would work with a magnetically shielded box inside a vacuum. Information would still get out about the cat, it's a fundamental property of the third law of thermodynamics. The experiment just doesn't work on macroscopic objects, it doesn't work with a cat because a cat isn't a fundamental particle.

The experiment is explained with a cat being dead or alive because dead and alive are two clearly defined and mutually exclusive states for the cat to be in. Just like a photon's spin's orientation being up or down are clearly defined and mutually exclusive states for a photon to be in.

So yes, the cat being dead or alive is just a matter of not knowing until you open the box. But that's because it's an allegory and you can explain it that way without explaining what a photon is and what spin means in this context (hint: photons aren't actually spinning) which makes the allegory useful.

But it's just a metaphor. A cat isn't an electron. Your common sense works when it comes to the cat, but it doesn't work when it comes to an electron, that's why quantum mechanics are such an incomprehensible monstrosity, because it's not intuitive.

>>38802942
If you think you're "right" then you're even more stupid than I thought. There's no right answer. That's the point.

>>38802951
This guy gets it. Bravo my man

>>38802963
You don't have a point. I have never said I knew if the cat was alive or dead. I did infact say that we don't aren't told, in my very first reply to you.

>>38802283

>you havent tried psychedelics because i said so hurr durr

goddamn you're stupid

>>38803004
Gonna stop talking you and direct you to >>38802951
He's better at explaining things

>never
why never? i'm a total autist khv and i've experienced a psychedelic trip, in fact i think they are good for robots and depressives in general.

>>38803070
It's good that you stop talking, because you didn't have anything intelligent to say.

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>>38801227

>arguing over some dumb cat

Man I love the autism this board brings. Keep it up guys!

>>38803082
The last word is mine

>>38803163
>t. Doesn't get Schrodinger's Cat

>>38803163
yeah dafuck those nerd losers lol
grab a beer and let's fuck some pussay
we're so cool hell yeah

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more psychedelic art

oregano

>>38803070
>He's better at explaining things
Thanks anon what else would you like explained

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oregano
spaghettini
lasagna

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>>38799612
I have seen this copy and pasted before

>>38803243
What is the meaning of life?

Orgin

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originale commento origami

>>38803206

>Doesn't get Schrodinger's Cat

Knowing what it is isn't going help you lose your virginity, anon-kin.

>>38803267
>tfw you will never impress a qt with your understanding of quantum mechanics

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>>38803247
You can always make it better you know

>>38803288
"You are thinking too much anon with all your complicated theories! Let's go out shopping!"

>>38800018
How'd you smoke it?

>>38803446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0qHPAEGphY

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I took 5 days off work that coincides with my parent's vacation, during this I will be dropping acid on my own in my house.

I'm in the process of setting up a playllist of songs and shit, getting my crib all comfy and safe.

I'm honestly, really lost. I feel like I'm setting up for a crazy evening regardless if it's good or bad.
I have anxiety disorder but I've been able to tame my goblin when high on weed.

I've only gotten high with weed during the night and I feel like a night crawler, like I'm straying from humanity. so I'm planing for a day time trip where I"m wide awake - I feel like I'm going to reach Buddha and heaven.

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>>38803710
Awesome anon.

Some advice you should follow.

1. Make sure the dose is not too high for your first time. The higher it is, the higher the probability that you will have a bad experience.

If you go with a low-medium dose (like half a tap, or a quarter of a tab, depending on the dose on the full tab), you are pretty much guaranteed a smooth, awesome experience.

In order to make sure that your first time goes well, it might be a good idea to play it safe and go for a low dose and not have too many expectations.
Once you get your feet wet, you can go for the full transcendental experience by slowly raising the dose (Be aware that there is a tolerance though. You need to wait one or two week for the same dose to have an effect again)

2. tripping during the day is the best idea. Make sure you have a good night of sleep the day before.

Having a playlist with your favorite songs ready is an excellent idea.

I suggest an activity outside (like a walk outside or going for a movie) once the peak is over (after 4-5 hours after the trip has started). Make sure the peak is actually over before you do that though.

Good luck!

>>38803710
I suggest take it in the morning. You can wander in your backyard and look at nature, if possible - this is a must-do. And it will last all day. 16 hours before you come down. You'll be up all night if you drop in evening

>>38804009
True.

oregano & spaghetti

>>38799206

It's fucking awesome.

>>38800193

Not him but psychedelics enable enhanced video memory and ease of morphological smoothing and visual simulation.

But they won't tell you the truth. In fact, they tell you that there's more than one position to look at an elephant. So to speak.

PS: Best combo is AMT* + Ethylphenidate + longer lasting 2-Cs. Only thing that could make it better would be insuffalated (actual) MXE

* - Not to be confused with DMT

>>38803710
>but I've been able to tame my goblin when high on weed.
Lmao, you're going to quickly realize that weed is absolutely nothing like acid.

>>38780610
Has anyone ever done Datura?

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it's alright - real LSD can be very pleasant if you're in decent company and have a few wee distractions to fixate on

it's pretty much just a way of accessing your subconscious while awake, putting your brain into similar alpha wave patterns that one experiences when dreaming

thing is, if you've got a lot of twisted experiences in your real life, then it doesn't take long for acid to bypass all the unicorn and rainbows territory of your mind and bring you into the nightmare zone - and if you get into using acid a lot, you'll soon find that's all your subconscious will dredge up

oh, but stay away from the research chemicals - the 2Ci crap sold as LSD these days - they aren't recreational in any sense of the word; placing oneself into recurring loops of thought which can't be escaped and which have seen many folks do themselves serious harm... that stuff is just nasty and no fun for anyone involved, because one's behaviour on the RCs is really erratic and emotionally disturbing for everyone around you

>>38804411
I'm too scared of the variability of doses to take any of the seeds I bought and I don't have the sitter or schedule for it

But taking enough benadryl to trip is quite similar in terms of effects and pharmacology. And that was interesting... not very fun, quite spooky, but still something I might repeat one day. /x/ the drug

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>>38800717
That guy is a fucking idiot.

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>>38804411
It's basically poison. A guaranteed horrible trip.
If the dose is high, you might strip naked and so some stupid shit.

Here is a trip report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfeKFDtW-6M

>>38803710
You should research how long acid takes to have an effect, and what are different phases of the high. The peak is very different from the high that comes next, and they both last for some hours.
I found it nice to know where I was in my trip and how long things were going to last when I tripped, it helped me feel in control of the trip.
I would advise against going out in public, you might make a complete fool of yourself in front of strangers.
Observing nature is a good idea. Honestly you're going to have a blast if you go outside or if you stay home, but I would advise against interacting with strangers.

>>38804411
I did. It was underwhelming and basically poison. Most extreme case of cotton mouth you'll ever see. Dehydrated eyes make you believe there's a thick fog everywhere. Forget about using your eyes to read for a few days. On there's the absolutely life like hallucinations, that scares the shit out of people sometimes
Me I just sleep through most of it, only to wake in moments to smoke an imaginary cigarette and mumble to the entities to fuck off and let me sleep, they were human like and didn't scare me, just annoying to talk to when you try to sleep and have those crazy deliriant lucid dreams

>>38806401
Yeah most people don't realize that acid, mushrooms, etc. don't even technically give you hallucinations, they just throw your pattern recognition and visual processing into overdrive. Deliriants like datura give you TRUE hallucinations, literally indistinguishable from reality

>>38800193
Its difficult to explain. Its as if, by no choice or effort on your own, you see connections between logic and aspects of your life and it becomes easy to disect and fully understand almost any familiar concept.

One really cool side effect on shrooms is when Im on them, my vocabulary becomes do poetic and rhythm. Im using words ive never used before and theyre usage is always spot on. Just an example of how psychadelics can 'expand your mind'.

why?
Its fucking amazing

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>>38806799
One think that I enjoy doing is reading Erowid Datura trip reports. Some of them are wild.

https://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Datura.shtml

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Who /nitrous/ here?
Absolutely the best thing on psychedelics, blasts you straight into temporary ego death

>>38808660
it's almost too intense. such that it's never quite fun per se for me. When I come down it's always like I've just been told exactly where and when I'm going to die, completely takes the fun spirit out of me.

>>38799206
I'm still waiting to get my 2 tabs from a friend, I don't know if I want to hit him up and ask for them though because I'd feel like I'm using him for drugs. What do? If I get it tonight I'll report back ITT.

>>38808753
Invite him to drink something out, and then ask for the tabs.
Let us know how it goes and if you get the tabs.

>>38800046
Woah I saw that exact shape during one of my mushroom trips except it was less colorful than that. It also had faces and shit in it.

Freaky.

>>38808737
That's a shame pal, but that makes it interesting for me, one time I thought god explained the universe and the point of consciousness to me. It was so incredibly simple that my only response was uncontrollable laughter.
It's such a mind fuck always, but the euphoria it gives you makes up for all the dread about death and infinity and all that, it kind of always makes me look forward to dying, like it will be an interesting experience, but I'd rather stay alive for now and do more nitrous

>>38808816
I was thinking of paying him to drive to where I'm at to drop them off. Is that a good idea? I also have some alcohol if he wants to drink.

>>38808846
>>38808844
>>38808842
>reddit spacing
Just fuck off to plebbit already

>>38808856
do you know what reddit spacing is or are you just doing the thing where you go in a random thread and reply to random posts accusing them of random bullshit?

>>38806799
those are called delusions anon

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>>38808856
>paragraphs are Reddit now
>trying too hard to fit in

SCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOL'S
OUT
FOR
SUMMER

>>38808867
No, you don't see delusions, you believe delusions. Look it up, deliriants cause true hallucinations, psychedelics just give you visual phenomena.

>>38808856
Are you really that desperate for (You)s? Here have another one

>>38808863
Neither of what you said

>>38799268
This for sure
You think more than you see if that makes sense

I chewed a solid chunk of my thumb off at some fucking awful psytrance festival I went to while on 2 tabs of 110.

Otherwise though good experience. Even when I chewed my thumb off, I was having fun. Afterwards wasn't though.

>>38808895
Believing the hallucinations to be real does not make them more true, it makes "you" delirious it's even in the name of the drug anon

I only tripped one time on shrooms and that was enough for me. When I was younger I was kind of a dick and would fuck with people a lot and when I tripped, my subconscious made me experience some of the shit I've done to people from their perspective. It was basically a lesson on the golden rule times 1000. I didn't really have much visual hallucinations, it was more of a voice in my head telling me not to be such a cunt.

>>38808964
I don't know what the fuck you're trying to correct me about now because you're just rephrasing what I already said...

deliriants cause hallucinations, cause you to be delirious, etc.
psychedelics do not technically cause hallucinations

>>38799712
I was enjoying a fun trip up until I had a major existential crisis and I pretty much felt like this

>>38799656
Ayy going to the hospital on shrooms sucked man. What a fucking disaster I thought I died and was experiencing what reality is really like.

>>38800322
If A and B are two classifications, then given a thing, there are 5 ways an object can be classified in respect to them:
1: It is A, but not B.
2: It is B, but not A.
3: It is either 1 or 2, but not both. (This state collapses into one of the above as more information comes to light.)
4: It is A and B.
5: It is neither A nor B.

By definition, if A and B are mutually exclusive, then statement 4 cannot be true. However, just because A and B are opposites (white and black) does not NECESSARILY mean they are mutually exclusive. After all, zebras are both black and white.

Keep that in mind, anon. Opposites do not necessarily preclude each other, and two ideas or concepts being opposites is not the same as them being antithetical to one another.

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>all these posts about music
>you can pick apart songs and listen to every part of it separately
but i can already do this
is that not normal?

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>>38799893
>dmt
Yeah a few times, it was pretty crazy. I rode a dragon/snake like thing, ballerina mannequins, were dancing inches from my face, everything turned into geometric shapes and tons of other shit. By far the most spacey of all hallucinations I've ever had, if that makes sense. All my visions had three dimensional depth and I could perceive the shape and depth of the room I was in even with my eyes closed. I didn't break through to any weird alien planet shit, but it was very intense nonetheless. It's also a bitch to smoke, like you're inhaling plastic vapors.

>>38799656
lol, this happened to my greedy ass friend, we chipped in on a quarter of shrooms and my buddy decides to eat an eighth to his face for his first time. The best part is his dad was supposed to be out of town and he showed up half way through the trip and thought his son was on coke because he was dripping sweat while it was so cold out that you could see your breath. My buddy took his dad's car without his permission, too, and drained his battery so he had to help jump the car's battery and was freaking out because he thought lightning bolts were shooting at him. I ended up getting kicked out his house that night and my buddy and I had to aimlessly wander the streets while shrooming for our first time, too. Thank god his dad wasn't responsible at all and didn't call our parents and I only did 1/2 an eighth which was more than enough for me to have voices in my head and whatnot, but not enough to make me a schizo like my friend.

>>38809026
>psychedelics do not technically cause hallucinations
Yes they do tho, it's one of their defining characteristics. Hallucinations are visual distortions of your perceived reality, wether or not you're delusional enough to believe they're real has nothing to do with that

>>38809118
the thing about describing what psychedelic experiences (ie with music) are like is that you can't
yeah that is normal but it's always different on drugs

>>38809215
You're missing the point. they obviously cause visual distortions, but in technical terms these are not considered hallucinations, they are geometric phenomena caused by hyperconnectivity in the visual cortex. You can focus and unfocus on them, you can close your eyes and see magic shapes behind your eyelids on psychedelics, so on and so on. But true hallucinations, those caused by deliriants, are literally indistinguishable from reality from a neurological standpoint.

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>mfw 700mg DXM + moderately strong weed edible

How do real dissociates compare? I've been wanting to try ketamine, but the current state of DNMs has caused me to want to wait until they recover

>>38809324
honestly weed + dxm is probably the best dissociative experience. But maybe I shouldn't say that because I haven't even technically tried ketamine, only deschloroketamine, and tfw mxe is gone and I will never have a chance to try it...

anyway you can legally order 3meopcp (be careful with this one, start very low and don't use it often, it is very triggerhappy with psychosis) and deschloroketamine on the clearnet, they're unscheduled legally grey research chems

>he doesn't have access to every conceivable drug

Why so anon?

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>>38799206
at the end of the day its just a form of recreation.
no pill or blot you take will transform your life forever, youre all you have internally and youre all youll ever be.
if youre not happy, youre predisposed to never be.

its fun though ngl

>>38809405
>if youre not happy, youre predisposed to never be.
lol what are you smoking anon. you were so close but you missed the point. drugs won't make you fulfilled but of course it is possible to choose to change your life and become fulfilled of your own will.

>>38809323
>You're missing the point
I get what you're trying to say, I don't agree is all
>they are geometric phenomena caused by hyperconnectivity in the visual cortex
ie. hallucinations
>are literally indistinguishable from reality from a neurological standpoint.
No they are not, they are distortions of your senses caused by a chemical you ingested, they're very much distinguishable from reality from a neurological standpoint, they might be caused through a different process in your brain but they are just as much hallucinations as the ones psychedelics give you

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>>38809215
He is not saying "real" because he believes you see shit that actually exists in the real world. He is simply saying that is the kind of hallucination that looks exactly like real life as you cannot know it's an hallucination while you see it (as opposed to seeing patterns walls for example, you know it's just a visual distortion).
It's like a schizophrenic person, the person has no basis to say what's real and what's an hallucination while he is experiencing them.

On delirants like datura you might see people talking to you, you might think you have something on your hand (usually a cigarette) and after the experience is over, you have no idea as to what you actually saw and exists and what was completely hallucinated.

>>38809441
I know that, but that doesn't mean that psychedelics don't give you hallucinations as well, just a different kind of hallucination

>>38809439
>ie. hallucinations
for everyday use of the word "hallucination" this would be accurate, but I am trying to point out that this is not accurate when using the technical definition.

>they're very much distinguishable from reality from a neurological standpoint
Try acid and then try datura. You have a glimmer of hope of holding onto reality on acid, but on datura your mental mechanisms for distinguishing fantasy and reality are DISABLED. you'll see what I mean

>>38809503
>different kind of hallucination
yes! he can be taught

moving on... these different kinds of hallucinations are actually technically not hallucinations! ...do you get it now?

>>38809439
But he is just saying that the two types of of "hallucinations" are completely different. With one you know it's just a distortion, with the other you are literally seeing shit added to what actually exists and you have no idea as to whether it's hallucinated or real. Hence why he says "true" hallucinations.

>>38799268
Yeah fucking sucks you can't get acid in Austin anymore.

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>>38809529
>>38809549
>technical definition
And where are you getting this "technical definition" from might I ask? Because I have the actual definition right here after one simple google search so I don't really know what you guys are talking about.
>datura
I know what datura does dude, I don't need you to explain it to me. As I said earlier being disillusioned does not make one hallucination more true than another, it is a different effect that deliriants give you on top of the hallucination, but both kinds of drugs give you hallucinations
>these different kinds of hallucinations are actually technically not hallucinations
Yes they are though
>>38809636
>With one you know it's just a distortion, with the other you are literally seeing shit added to what actually exists and you have no idea as to whether it's hallucinated or real
That still makes both of them give you hallucinations

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Just took 100mcg eth-lad.

I guess I will find out.

Bunph

>>38810276
Feeling something already?
Let us now how the trip is going

>>38800717
>visuals
>overrated
you just didn't take enough

>>38811577
It's pretty mild. More body high than headspace or visuals.

>>38799206
Movies exacerbate the visual shit all the time. It's pretty much just like being a kid again, at least it is for me. The world feels "fresh", like I'm rediscovering everything.

Music is just blissful, whatever you're on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23F2KD2zn_Y

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Psychedelics are easy as fuck to get (even legally).

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>>38813691
You don't need to rip those bags open you savage

I really enjoy LSD, but I don't think I've once taken it without entering a fucked up state of mind where I think I'm lucid dreaming while actually being someplace else either dying or doing something fucked up. Drowning, having fallen off a cliff, killing my family and running away and crashing my car, overdosing on other drugs, getting caught in a building fire, all of it. After my 2nd LSD trip I was actually psychotic for a couple of weeks and I can't smoke weed anymore without having a panic attack.

>>38813755
This basically for me

I always get weird ideas like "Wait a minute, I already died and I'm a ghost now trapped in some weird dimension"

Once I ended up leaving and running around yelling "help" at people and if I had brought my phone with I guarantee you 100% I would have called 911. I thought I was going 100% insane and my life was over

Holy shit I am never doing it again. No drugs ever just alcohol rarely

I know alcohol is worse for the body, but my mind cannot handle psychs.

>>38800018
And then you drink ayahuasca (DMT + MAOI to allow it to be orally active) and you have a long trip with a come up and come down that allows your brain to adjust to the new universe and integrate it back into reality.

>>38813755
See, this is the exact thing that happened to multiple friends of mine and I really want to know what factors typically come into play when people have an episode like this after a trip. I've been right there with them and I just don't get that kind of dissociation in the first place. I feel the turbulence of the world, but I always stay centered, or "inside" myself. I like it there.

>>38813790
It's not so bad now. Since I've taken LSD so many times and imagined so many different scenarios that all feel equally real and relate to my set and setting I've realized it's just how my brain works when tripping (only after the fact, though). It's also usually late at night that it happens so I think I'm entering a hypnagogic state or something. Day/evening tripping has generally been pretty pleasant for me.

>>38813861
It's not like I hallucinate any of that happening. Rather I experience the real world (plus a bit of drugged up and sleep deprived embellishment) as a sort of dream or delirium that is masking something horrible that is actually happening that I will eventually have to wake up to if I want it to stop.

Once it was about killing my family after drinking a lot of DXM cough syrup. I wanted desperately to wake up so that I could kill myself in order to stop it from happening. It was pretty horrifying.

>>38813955
>Once it was about killing my family after drinking a lot of DXM cough syrup. I wanted desperately to wake up so that I could kill myself in order to stop it from happening. It was pretty horrifying.
Actually, now that I think about it, this was after a massive dab of shatter. My LSD ones aren't as bad.

>>38813755
>>38813790
you shouldn't be doing LSD if you lack the mental fortitude to not run around in public like a madman...

>>38814090
>>38813755 here. Whenever this stuff happens I usually just sit or lie down. I never feel an urge to actually act it out or do anything stupid while on acid.

>>38799612
so if im trying to make music i should take lsd?

>>38814187
Depends on your set and setting which includes your personality. LSD might make your creative process better but it might also make it hard for you to sit down and get something done. It also depends on how you make music. If you're riffing on a guitar or piano or something you might have an easier time than trying to work a DAW.

>>38813955
I guess I just ride with it. I don't know, I've never been unable to think rationally during a trip. If nothing around me is horrible, I could care less if it's a mask or not. I'll come to depressing revelations once in a while, like at the first (and last) rave I went to where I realized the music sucked, somebody's puke was on my shoe, it stunk like ass and it was hotter than a fucking sauna. I spent fifty dollars there, to stand in a sea of zombies. But they didn't turn into actual zombies, you know what I mean? I left the venue and just walked around downtown. I love walking on acid.

I just keep in mind that I'm expanding my perception of the world through the senses and substances that were born from it, not as some other reality. And again, if it is some other reality, so what? The point is moot. Have another beer. Listen to some new music. Ignore your friends.

>>38814187
>>38814224
It certainly wouldn't hurt to try it!

>>38814233
I think I'm just often in situations where I'm taking the drug in the afternoon or evening so I get tired and that kicks off the delirium. Also I haven't yet tried it during the school season or on a long vacation or something where I'm not recovering from work at the time. It's clearly not just the LSD because I can peak and have a great time no matter the setting - the trips tend to go sour near the end, again no matter the setting.

>>38814245
actually it could hurt a lot but yeah

>>38802019
>Look at my backyard and multiple male silhouettes made of stardust and galaxies are standing there and congratulating me for making it so far
>They're proud and happy of me
https://youtu.be/wDajqW561KM

>>38799206
It's really fun I must say. I had a couple of trips with friends.
Don't know if I would call it a life-changing or enlightening experience, but it sure was fun.