What are some useless degrees in your opinion?

>>38420502
Any STEM degree

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>>38420502
so anon what did you have for dinner tonight?

>>38420502
Any science degree unless you have at least a Masters, but preferably PhD. If you have a bachelors you're literally just a lab bitch washing their glassware and doing remedial shit that someone with an associates could do

>>38420502
Anything ending with 'Studies'.
English.
Journalism.
If you're in the States, Compsci/ECE/Programming is dead-end because H1-B

film studies are pretty stupid imo.

>>38420578
This guy is also correct. If you go for science, you gotta go grad school.

>>38420582
What is "H1-B" ?

>>38420608
visa, .:. pajeet makes you a neet

>>38420608
a poo portal

>>38420608
visa that lets pajeets from degree farms flood in and lets companies pay their engineers less

>>38420608
Well, these guys beat me to it.

>>38420620
>>38420633
>>38420639

>>38420578
Good thing I dodged a bullet there.

Most degrees by their selves are useless. Networking/being a sycophant is what will land you a job out of college. A degree is just paying for training.

How is mechE?

What degrees would you recommend for a talentless robot?

>>38420502
Psychology and philosophy have to be up there

>>38420658
I did not, but I'm applying for grad school this year. This job and all the jobs I find are making me hate my field

computer science unless you like being depressed
in which case it's wonderful

>>38420502

Anything but law, medicine, engineering, STEM, Industry, management, economics etc. Is useless.

>>38420737
Good luck man. I'm heading down to a grad school for a sci-intensive engineering field, only one place took me, but at least it was a good place.

>>38420544
NO YOU ARE WRONG GO AWAY TAKE YOUR OPINIONS ELSEWHERE

t. butthurt chemistry major

>>38420684
Either that or win the applying online lotto

>>38420730
I thought psychology has a lot of job opportunity?

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>>38420553
no op but i got hotdogs and french fries

maybe tomorrow i can get some chicken tendies

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>>38420755
Completely agree. Picrelated screencap explains it pretty well.

>>38420762
Most of these are useless too though

>>38420809
Not really, you need to go through grad school and become a doctor, then do post-doctoral study. By the time you actually get a job in it, you're into your 30s. It's highly saturated right now.

>>38420816

Then almost everything is useless, I guess?

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I'm thinking about studying medicine but y'all making me very insecure now.

>>38420773
What's the field? I'm kind of worried about if I'll get accepted anywhere, I'm applying for Masters and PhD, but the applications are so damn expensive and I'm nervous about asking for recs, especially because I've been out of school for over a year

>>38420502
What are your guys opinions on Accounting?

>>38420582
I think you forgot philosophy.

Oh, and you can get jobs with compsci, but those positions will probably be among the first to go in the next economic downturn

Psychology is only useful if you follow a ~10 year track of complete bullshit to become a clinical psychiatrist, who make a lot of money and don't have to work nearly as hard as physicians and other medical specialists

>>38420883
Medicine is a good field, but it's hypercompetitive. You need to be both smart and extremely diligent if you want to become a doctor.

>>38420737
which job? what is your degree?

>>38420853
Yes, 90% of college degrees are pointless. This nothing new

>>38420897
Accounting is a solid choice. You tend to get long hours and it's not attractive (if for some reason you give a shit about that), but the money is good, and finding a job won't be that hard.

Most are useless nowadays. College is just a way to postpone adulthood for another 4 years.

4 years of work experience is infinitely more valuable than a college degree. That or joining the military for all the benefits they get

>>38420502

Cancer tier:
> any type of business
> any type of finance
> any type of marketing
> any type of law
> any type of psychology

Doctors are beautiful people
Engineers are at least useful
Math/physics: much respect


Trades: redpilled

>>38421016
What If mine if a mix of math and finance?

>>38420947
It doesn't matter in this shithole, there's one doctor for every 200 humans. They'll even hire fresh-out-of-college kids as long as they fill their quota.
If shit goes south I'll sit my ass on a sewing machine and continue mom's business, shit sells well

>>38421016
>at least useful
feels good, man.

>>38421072
Oh, then go for it man. I default to assuming that shit's as saturated as it is here.

Incoming indisputable best jobs:

God tier
>Med school

Great Tier
>Law school
>Masters in any non-civic engineering

Good Tier
>Bachelors in STEM
>MBA
>Some military positions

Bad tier
>Most military positions
>Some trade school positions

Starbucks tier
>Any liberal art degree that doesn't end in a teaching position (read: PhD or at least multiple masters)
>Most trade school positions

Debate me
>protip: you can't

>take a year of compsci
>good grades but it's so stressful I want to drop out and join the military
>working on my film degree now
>getting paid at a rate of 30k/yr at an internship as a videographer
I don't think it'll be so bad, glad I didn't fall for the STEM meme

>>38421116
>mfw starting master's in non-civic engineering next month
I'm OK with this.

>>38421116
I disagree with law in great tier, it's become extremely over-saturated, and incurs a ton of debt.

Doubt anyone knows but how's mortician?

>>38421116
I think having a teaching degree and helping young minds and all that deserves good tier adding but other than that I completely agree

>>38421185
I think it really depends on the school and your connections. I go to a middle tier law school but because of muh family connections I'm probably getting a fairly decent job when I'm done clerking.

>>38421116
To be quite honest, liberal arts degrees aren't even bad as long as
1.) you're genuinely skilled and interested in what you're studying before you start studying it
2.) you work your ass of with odd jobs and internships to build that motherfuckin resume
3.) you sell out and make yourself corporate and employable
can talk from experience

>>38421243
That makes sense, but without those connections, it's a dangerous pitfall for those who don't know what they're doing.

>>38420897 Accountant here. Not fun and a lot of redditors do it but good money and once you get that first job and pass CPA you'll never worry about going hungry since there's currently a shortage and likely to be one for the next ten to fifteen years

>>38420812
You are eating yourself into an early grave

>>38421204
>>38421271
Alright so far for version 1.1 we have

Good tier additions
>teaching liberal arts with intent to help people
>law degree without connections

I'd also like to add nursing to good tier as all my (unfortunately platonic) normie friends that go into that seem to do really well.

>>38421185
How so? I agree with the overpopulation though

>>38420977
>>38421276
at least ill make big bucks

I just hope I can pass the CPA

I don't want to be a failure

>>38420924
philosophy has decent prospects though as per any stat you can find.

>>38420502
Every degree, you're going to be crushed in debt no matter what.

>>38421342
Lots of students go into law not knowing what they're doing, and end up with part-time jobs unrelated to the degree. Law school also costs much more than the average degree, so it's even more of a risk for those who have no connections.

>>38420813
Didn't Turing kill himself because people found out he was gay

>>38421101
It is, actually. But it's whatever, I've always found medicine "comfy" and the pay is quite nice.

>>38421059

King of brainlets

Every degree is useless if you don't intern/volunteer/have connections. There's no surefire degree that'll land you a job.

I guess being a businessman is more worthy

>>38421276
hey btw

what did you minor in?

I'm a computer science major and I have no discipline for these seemingly unrelated courses even though I was excited for programming and math(but fuck physics)

What are some other worthwhile degrees?

History
Maybe

How about finance??

>>38421116
Medfag detected. It's cool, but not THAT cool, anon

>went into comp sci from a decent school
>double major with Spanish
>not looking for anything long term in field, just want to make solid money until I turn 27 and jump off the grid
>no student loan debt, complete tuition remission, collecting 6k a semester in grant money because I don't need it for school
How am I looking lads?

>>38421485
Nothing. My university had a cheap and quick Masters program so I just did that instead so I could work at a firm at the same time

>>38421623
Nicely done bro

>>38421116
>military and trade school is in bad tier
Shit! I did both and it's both shit. Now I am going to Nursing school using my GI bill while working as a rigger. Life's good, though.

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>ctrl-f
>music "phrase not found"
t-thanks bros..

>>38420633
underrated post
sdfsdre

>>38421478
I know a guy from my Alcoholics Anonymous program that used to lie about his degrees and still get the job.

>>38420502
Any major ending with -ology

>>38420502
damn, OP pic really makes you think

>>38421116
kek, premed? an engineer who gets out of school at age 21 with a 100k job will be much happier than you even if you make more later on.

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>>38421309
>implying i dont want to die early

>>38421436
No he wrote hello world one too many times

>>38422080
Are you not happy bb

What's the deal with your autistic name anyways

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>painters get degrees for painting
kind of pointless
>animators get degrees for animating
is it pointless too anons? what do you think at first glance?

>>38420578
>>38420544
>lib arts are memes
>sciences are memes

WHAT THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO

>>38421478
I heard interning is basically useless and it just makes you work for no pay during the whole internship

>>38421016
T. Salty stem major

>>38422173
its not a bad life but it doesnt compare to lives that engineers get to live. 40 hours a week, weekends off, can take time off whenever they want, can "call in sick", etc. You just dont get those opportunities

body builder? bitch boy? beta bux? who knows.

>>38422080
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I'm halfway through a masters in classical history and I have an undergraduate in politics and international relations. How fucked am I lads? I plan on P.hd but it almost seems like a gambler's fallacy at this point.

>>38420544
Any non-STEM degree
Ftfy

>>38422213
Well they need decent mediums to learn something

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>>38422287
Are you a body builder?

Thoughts on Accounting lads?

>>38421116
>bad tier
>most military positions
why?

>>38423489
When I made the list I was thinking to my buddies who were in the military (army, navy and air force respectively). The two who were officers had a pretty decent gig going while the guy who was just enlisted had poor pay and horrible hours. I figured people in the military like him probably made the majority of the armed forces compared to people in officer positions.

>>38423474
It's shit to do but always needed. Ok degree. Doing economics myself, thoughts?

>>38422425
why not at this point? i mean what else were you planning on doing besides academia?

Thoughts on Information Systems?

Also, Archivists?

>no interests
>not creative
>bad at math
>only classes ive ever excelled in are english and history classes
>have to declare a major soon

what the fuck do i do bros

>>38424050

join the cuck corps

>>38424050
Fuck college and get a trade. Heavy machinery mechanic, carpentry, even IT-- there is all kinds of stuff to do that won't keep you miserable and poor and unemployed for 4 years only to remain miserable and poor and unemployed after you graduate only to enroll in tradeschool anyways.
>you'll still be miserable, just not poor and unemployed

>>38422263
Go into a skilled trade or network really well. Or sales but if you're on /r9k/ you probably don't cut it in sales.

>>38420633
Top fucking kek my friend. You got me laughing good.

>>38421016
What if I studied foreign languages? It's at least useful.

>>38423545
Yeah, enlisting sucks.

>>38424318
in before he says moonrunes

>>38421249
>networking
People think they can just show up for class for 4 years and walk into a cushy job.

>>38424357
No Spanish, French, and Italian and studied others on my own. It did end up being useful to work in tourism.

>>38422428
t. Chemistry graduate working at McDonalds

having a BA is like a HS degree now. get your MA faggots

>>38420794
Chemistry gets you a job ez in any manufacturing company, especially in big gov contractor businesses.

>>38420502
English, Psychology, Mathematics, History, Criminal Justice, any foreign language, any social studies related major, Philosophy.

>>38422114
everyone knows Alan Turing killed himself because one of his coworkers figured out how to write fizzbuzz using fewer characters than him

>>38420502
There's an Information Science degree at my university. What do you guys think of it?

>>38422000
I did the same thing, tfw music majors aren't even relevant enough to be hated

Computer Science

The perfect choice for useless no-brain, no-talents who "grew up with computers".
Yeah no shit, you and at least 1.5 billion other people under 30.

commerce or arts if you're a pleb with no exceptional skills or niche dreams (i.e. becoming a lawyer), and want to get through college quickly and into the job market with a viable chance.

>>38420762
In the US, the legal profession is so overpopulated that law is a meme degree unless you went to a top school or graduated near the top of your class.

>>38420762
>advanced wageslaves

I'm switching degrees from engineering next semester
I'm tossing up between chemistry + med school, chemistry + PHD, or law
I am autistic af with 0 social skills
What would you faggots recommend?

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I have some life advice for anyone thinking of doing anything software-related.

Make sure your github account is full of projects. That is the first thing they will check. Unless you're a prodigy, grades don't mean shit.

>>38424932
fuckkk im going into comp sci just because i thought it could lead to a job fuckkk

>>38425108
You couldn't handle engineering but you think you'll make it through the entirety of any of those school programs.

>>38425163
I could handle engineering, I just thought it was shit
Plus I was doing robotic engineering, so too specialised to get a job

Entrepreneurship
Yes it's real

>>38421116
Where would you rank social sciences such as sociology, psychology etc? I think this is a harder question than you might think, anon.

>>38424932
>>38425162
Comp sci does lead to a job, I dunno what the first anon is on about. Unless you're going to some pleb community college or your grades are garbage, a bachelors in Comp Sci is pretty fucking op.

>>38425162
You and every autistic fuck out there
You might have had a chance 10-20 years ago but the industry has been over run by normies with their faux hawks and blazers over graphic tees

>>38422515
Certainly not. Am I a bitch boy or beta bux? Possibly

>>38422326
How long does it take you to dig up this copy and paste and how many times have you posted it? Was it a good use of your time?

>>38420852
That's a psychiatrist, not psychologist.

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>>38425327
It takes me about 5 seconds (maybe a bit less but about that long) to google it and copy it. I do it because bitch boys like you need to be shown their place, friendo :^)

>>38421116
New York Finance should be God Tier imo. I only got this job because of connections though.

>>38420755
i fell for the CS meme freshman year. Thankfully i had a really shitty teacher that red flagged me to get the fuck out of there

>>38425371
Well I definitely do admire your perseverance

>>38425379
Yeah I was really looking for jobs people could get realistically with work, I didn't want to get super specialized. But I do agree that if you're actually on Wall Street or something, it's fairly god tier (besides the hours of course).

>>38425456
Right now I'm just an analyst out of college but in a year I'm going to go for an MBA and hopefully eventually make vp in ten years. RIght now it's a grind though and desu I hate my job.

>>38425533
Young lawyer here, trying to get clerkships so I can get a real job afterward. I know that feel, anon.

>>38425327
it's on a word document with the rest of my pastas. filtered

>>38425206
This. If you're going to take a business degree take Econ or Finance.

Convince me not to do Law as a foreign language/philosophy undergrad currently.

>>38425108
Pls respond
Any of you autistic fucks done law?
Normies need not respond

>>38425616
Finished my JD last year, just job hunting now. Right now I'm living with a roommate and had a bit of clerk positions in the past year but nothing solid (lawyers don't want permanent clerks anyway).
I'm thinking of just putting up a shingle or whatever (showing my town I'm up for anything that pays) but life isn't so bad right now - it's better than if I had stopped after my bachelors anyway.
I'm not autistic but I'm fairly awkward (a cyborg perhaps?) and law is pretty good for that depending on the field. I have a friend in med school now and says it's the hardest thing he's ever done by fair, but then law school wasn't exactly a walk in the park either.
You can get away with being a high-paying autist in both professions though.

>>38425549
>Getting a low degree without connections and a position lined up
>falling for this fucking meme

>>38425599
depending on how far you are in your major it might not be worth it to switch now. I would recommend networking through your school's career center if you go to a good networked school and if not aggressivly chasing internships and other oppertunities independently. Also consider dropping the foreign language double major for something that's more marketable to law firms and schools like econ or poli sci. I'm just saying to drop it out of a career standpoint, if its a passion you want to pursue you can go for it so long as you network more to make up for it.

>>38425742
>no connections
Well I didn't have shit in college but in law school I made a few. It might be wishful thinking but I think I have promise.

>>38425742
TTT bottom of class solo attorney here, making more than biglaw with no connections. AMA.

>>38425549
>>38425742
I'm not in law but from what I've heard its pretty over-saturated right now so good luck but its going to be tough to get a good job.

>>38425737
Thanks famalam
Will probably go law so I can get it over faster
I just wanna make shitloads of money

>>38421116
>god tier
>not hedge fund manager

>>38425790
>I just wanna make shitloads of money
Work your ass off in college (3.7 at the very least with all those stupid ass clubs and whatnot) and go to a t10 law school. Then go into divorce law for 6-8 years.
This is the quickest way to make money if that's all you're after (easily clearing 200k per year after a half decade of work) but man it's going to be fucking boring. I have a buddy that does divorce law now that makes nearly 200k but his day is usually mediating out two chucklefucks who got married too early and are now at each other's throats over the fucking dog or something.
Just fair warning, anon.

>>38425809
Rather investment banking.
I'm doing an internship next summer at JP Morgan Chase and honestly can't wait.

>>38425809
See my response to finance here
>>38425456

>>38425852
medicine is not god tier compared to a successful wall street career

CLS degree/license
work for hospital
get hospital to help pay for CE
too afraid to pick anything I'll have to defend a thesis for
stalling
loosing options daily.

>Feels bad man
After working under many doctors MD and otherwise I can tell you the majority of them are so far up their own ass that it is beyond belief. You see, they are smart. So smart that they are capable of the kind of mental gymnastics needed to believe some of the shit they believe/do.

Frankly I might just stay with this job until I kill myself. I can afford rent tendies and internet, what else do I need?

>>38425952
Let's compare
>helping humanity in an extremely respected job that makes bank
>doing neutral/bad for humanity in a mildly respected job that makes (slightly) more bank
I guess it's about priorities, tbqh family.

>>38420502
>useful
Useful for society? Useful for happiness? Useful for personal ambition? Useful for what?

>>38425838
I'm Australian so I have no idea what you are talking about
Thanks for the advice though

Math major here. I'm on my last year for my bachelors degree in mathematics. I don't know what I'm going to do when I graduate either but everyone just tells me it'll be fine.

Been debating whether I should go to grad school or not

>>38426067
No problem anon. With any luck another law-considering anon will see my post and know that much more ahead of others. I really like the idea of people on /r9k/ actually becoming something

>>38425992
Coming from a family where both my parents were doctors and now working at a BB I can tell that doctors are just as much shills as finance types. No one puts in the amount of work it takes to be a doctor without going for the money first and foremost. The "helping humanity aspect" is just a side gimmick. Not saying that finance types help the world in the same way the medical field does, just saying that their both just shills doing it for the money. No one puts in the amount of hours of work that both fields require without it being about the money.

>>38425992
>slightly
Hah

>>38426130
It's always about money. Anyone who says otherwise is lying for brownie points

>>38426076
Do it
A bachelor of math is useless, a phd is a goldmine

>>38426076
Yeah grad school might be the move. If you don't have programming exp, summer internships, or family connections lined up in business, you should consider starting a PhD program. Even at a shitty school. Spend time wisely, and try and pick up some programming if you can. Stay until you can pick up the masters on the way out, or finish the program entirely. Easy

>>38426247
I'm not so sure. A lot of Math PhDs have lots of great skills built up, but I wouldn't be so certain that a new PhD in Algebraic Topology has the career prospects that everyone talks about.

>>38421499
Take cyber security if your uni offers it.

You still get math classes but they are actually good, cryptography especially is cool.

What are pleb filter majors? Ones where people who enter it just won't make it if they're even slightly a brainlet

>>38426430
>What are pleb filter majors? Ones where people who enter it just won't make it if they're even slightly a brainlet
bump

>>38421348
study the guide for 300-400 hours for a guaranteed way in

it's a test of endurance, not IQ

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>mfw working for economics
>ctrl+f
>no one is shit talking me
>pic related
The field is just so versatile for different jobs and teaches you some useful things about biz and finance in the meanwhile,
Any thoughts on economics? I think its pretty good the thing is near no one considers it.

>>38421059
One of the best, if you can be a quant you'll easily make a lot of money.
Then you can retire early as a millionaire and maybe just trade a bit to keep making a lot.

>>38428096
>Any thoughts on economics?
It's way too generalized. Jack of all trades, master of none.
t. economics

>>38426430
>>38427604
See the thing is anon, imo you can get any degree you want at the bachelors level if you work hard enough for it. I think it's really graduate degrees that take real brainpower on top of having extremely good work ethic.

>>38420502
Msc in chem here. I can give you a break down for chem (Canada) as I'm an expert:

option 1 - BSc and mindless 15-20$/hr dead end job

option 2 - MSc and either super lucky like me or have to do PhD. I know masters grads working at gas stations, liquor stores (because lulz I wanted to be a food chemist anyway, so deluded) and retail. I'd say about 5% get lucky, 45% do a phd, 50% fuck off to oblivion (even delete their fb they're so ashamed).

Option 3 - phd. Takes forever, years of forgone income, about 1/10 gets a good job commensurate with their skill level. 4/10 into oblivion again (yes knew a guy that did retail) and 5/10 into post doc holding patterns where they sign a 1-3 year contract to make almost no money and beg for a prof position to open up. All of the phds have to be ready to move anywhere for work too - ie. job in fucksville tenessee? off they go.

Option 4 - bsc then switch to management, chem eng, something and pray to god.

ex gf just finished phd and im pretty sure she's suicidal at 30 with no money saved, no car, no house, never traveled and vag is wrecked from me pounding it for years before dumping her.

so ya, fuck anyone that says chem is a good degree

>tfw doing music in college
>cucking myself but it's the only thing I'm good at

What do I do? I feel like I've fucked my life up

my question is (bear in my mind I am very frugal and don't care about it) how much can I live off in England?maybe my lifestyle will aid my stupid educational decisions...

>>38420502
I believe no degree is useless. If you enjoy what you're studying and you can afford it, good for you. Even if you don't get a high paying job it's better than forcing yourself to get something else just to be a slave for Shekelstein.

Here in our shitty 3rd world country, I think Bachelor of Arts major in History is the most insignificant course offered in our school.

>I'm a 4th year college dropout from AB History btw.

>>38421190
free pussy 24/7

How good is a Computer Engineering degree?

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I can top all of this with my degree
Games Journalism

>>38425350
Lemme tell you how this shit works in the UK:
>Bsc Psych 3 years
Absolute shit show of a degree, even offered in universities you need like one a level (one grade) to get accepted because of how hamfisted the courses are.
>Msc in chosen field of Psych one year
This is where the filters start because pretty much most masters require around a year's experience of working in that field before applying, meaning those roasties who fucked about all those summers thinking they would go on to become psychologists get btfo'd.
>Psy.D
Usually 3 years, once the masters is complete you still need a doctorate before you can even consider going into therapy. People who stop at masters go on to research role or fuck off to other jobs (more successfully than Bsc), this is where the true dedicated ones stay, the ones that actually want to do psych.

T. 3rd year psychologist with a year's experience working in clinical field. I sincerely regret my choice but no point stopping now, I'm either gonna convert to a forensic science Msc or carry on with the psych route and go into forensic psychology because I hate myself :^)

Almoust everything in american universities simply because it has become a business, and peer pressure makes people take even shitty courses which lets the universities make money instead of force them to change their shitty courses / practices because students are not signing up.

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>>38420502
It seems that less than half of actually know what a degree is. Well done.

ANYTHING BELOW A 2:1 IS UTTERLY FYCKING USELESS

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>>38422425
hahaha, you done goofed.

>norman studies liberal arts because he likes it
>as a result he becomes good at it
>starts a career in academia

>autist studies STEM because he heard that's where the money is and/or doesn't want to lose his reputation of a walking encyclopedia
>drops out because he played Dwarf Fortress and shitposted on 4chan all the time
>lives in his mother's basement

Many such cases.

>>38425992
the "doing good for humanity" aspect of medicine is for women. All of the male med students I know are there for the bank (and to impress women)