Kratom

>>38375018
I've always wanted to try it, never gotten around to it. Do you take it for a functional high or a relaxing opioid like high? What strains?

>>38375018
isn't that the shit that gets heroin addicts clean?

Uncle Sam made it illegal

>>38375018
good effect but shit taste that makes it impossible to consume.

>>38375049
No he fucking didn't.

>>38375018
I've had it a few times, it can be nice and relaxing but rarely do I get a nice opiate high. I think I might be dosing too low, but I also heard more than what I usually do makes people puke.

>>38375049
Nah, the DEA reversed it's decision to schedule it. It's still unscheduled, for now anyways.

I've tried kratom before and it definitely has an effect. I wouldn't necessarily call it pleasant though, you just feel kinda fucked up and dizzy. It made me incredibly nauseous as well. Some people love it though. My body doesn't tolerate it well I guess

>>38375049
Basically he tried but failed and it's close to maybe being in a grey zone, the bill won't see and discussion anytime soon

>>38375041
I'd compare thr feeling to that of hydrocodons although, hydrocodons seem to automatically put me in a better mood while on Kratom my mood doesnt really change. If you lay down and close your eyes you still get that rrally good feeling like you would on opioids. I like white vein the most personally.

>>38375044
I think youre thinking of methadone, but i can see how Kratom would help too.

>>38375049
It's legal here in TX still. I think only a few states banned it.

>>38375018
Its interesting, but I hate choking down the powder and even packing it into gelatine capsules would still require swallowing a huge amount of capsules. If there was an easy way to make an extraction, without wasting much, I'd be game. But I'd rather just eat hydros or codeine

>>38375075
I agree about the taste. I mix minr with a small bottle of chocolate milk, shake and chug. Usually can't taste it.

>>38375080
I do about 10 grams at a time. I also smike pot, so that helps with the nausea. So does having food in your stomach.

>>38375161
Like i said chocolate milk orrr they actually have a liquid extract now, ita just aignificantly more expensive than the powder. Id rather do hydros and codine too, but i can never find them or whe i do ita like $10 for a 10mg hydro

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>>38375018
i find kratom REALLY inconsistent when i get different products. i'm 90% sure some of the stuff on the market is just ground up tea leaves with bootleg chinese pharmaceuticals mixed in, like propoxyphene.

i understand that might sound conspiratorial, but i spent years working around dietary supplements at the height of "herbal" virility pills largely being sawdust and bootleg cialis. it's left me distrustful of the wild west of shit unregulated by the FDA.

i think people constantly puke on it because it digests really fucking slowly, mostly getting absorbed in your small intestine. since it takes longer for the effects to fully manifest, people are way more likely to fuck up and take a larger dose than necessary. it took me a while to successfully dial in exactly how much i want without thinking "whoops too much lol."

>>38375275
>$10 for a 10mg hydro
Jesus, I'd expect that for dilaudid or oxy, but not hydro. I'm glad I've got scripts now.