Is it just me or do young women in general these days have basically no self-esteem?
You rifle through these sluts tumblrs and they are peppered with nude selfies along with an "I don't give a fuck what you think" gif with some negress, then a few posts down they'll be something about how much she hates herself and likes to cut herself.
Same on /soc/. You speak to any of the camwhores and they're such unhappy people. They have zero self-esteem.
Same in the cosplay scene. These girls get dressed up (or rather dressed down) and then go to the con, get drunk, go to the rave, get drunk and high and hook up with some dude and then talk about how shitty they feel on twitter the next day and how much they hate themselves.
Fembots: What the fuck is wrong with you? What's the cure to this?
>>38250658
Stop idolizing Stacey and treating the uggos like they are invisible. Problem solved.
>he's not picking up fembots with low self esteem to be easy fuck toys
Girls on tumblr are not a fair representation of the average girl. Thats like coming on here and asking "whats wrong with men all they do is piss in bottles and watch chinese cartoons"
>>38250679
Uggos don't go outside and don't contribute to the image of women, aren't interacted with and are invisible by their own choice.
If Uggos don't want to be treated like they're invisible, they should stop being invisible desu.
>>38250698
Basically every man has done this at some point so you could say that and not be wrong.
>>38250688
Everyone is doing this these days.
The cat is out of the bag so it makes it difficult for the rest of us.
Fembots, why are you so goddamn easy?
I don't know tbqh. I feel like I'll always be inadequate because of my early unattractiveness. I have a boyfriend, had a girlfriend at the same time at one point, I'm a suicide girls hopeful, and could basically be an alt stacey in terms of attractiveness. But my inadequacy when I was younger has made me feel that I'll always be ugly even though I know I'm not.
I do have nudes online, but I've never self harmed, even though I've wanted to. That one is a bad road to go down.
>>38250800
That's the very definition. Girls with low self esteem are very easy to fuck. Fembots have low self esteem.
>>38250813
How can you be so fucking dumb? Really. Get the fuck off this board and kys.
>>38250658
>Fembots
No such things. Wymen cannot be robots, as simple as that.
Even the ugliest or fattest wymen will find a mate.
>>38250658
the low self-esteem is actually a result, not a cause.
>>38250813
>I'm a suicide girls hopeful
Let's see your pics.
>>38251004
You really need to stop believing that meme. Cat ladies and spinster aunts have been around for centuries.
>>38251033
they have been that way by choice.Robots don't have a choice because of shit genetics and a shitty up bringing
>>38251042
It's a choice for everyone. You aren't trying hard enough or putting enough effort into finding a mate. And that's your choice.
>>38251042
There is a lot of truth and pain behind these words.
>>38251042
Da fuck? Being a robot is a choice, nothing else.
>>38251076
It would be nice to post the graph of girl attention towards men alongside theit attractiveness rating.
>>38251093
What does that have to do with the fact that being a robot is a choice?
>le girls are le easy le le le le le
yeah easy for Chad, non-Chads are still invisible to women, self-esteem or not
fucking normies i wanna kill you all
>>38251110
If Chad means 99% of men and non-Chad means the bottom 1% losers.
>>38251117
99% of men aren't 6'2''
>>38251076
>being a robot is a choice
You are kindly invited to get the fuck off this board, you dumb, retarded slut.
Honestly it's the same reason men have low self esteem: massive divorce rates means they grow up without fathers and it fucks their head up having no masculine influence.
Personally I have comically unwarranted high self-esteem and think everyone else is inferior to me even though I am useless at everything.
>>38251099
>being ugly is a choice
>being a manlet is a choice
>having a small dick is a choice
>having problems with social situations is a choice
>mentall illnesses are a choice
The only thing of choice is coming to this website. Robots don't need to be using 4chan. They just lost the genetic lottery and thanks to that they are invisible to women. Avoided even.
>>38251131
We are talking about Chad, not being 6'2". Besides, that just proves the point because 6'2" is pretty much the maximum height where you can still get girls. Anything taller and your only hope of getting laid is being rich or famous.
>>38250658
The only solution is motherhood and monogamous marriage.
>>38251136
Triggered because you know it's true. You chose to he a robot. You can choose to stop being one.
>>38251170
oh, for a second there i thought you were being serious
carry on
Fembots, why do you like tattoos and piercings?
Not saying I hate them, just interested.
SELF ESTEEM THROUGH CONSTANT VALIDATION
>>38251182
SELF ESTEEM BASED ON COMPLIMENTS RATHER THAN ACHIEVEMENTS
>>38250658
the low self esteem is a facade, literally every tumblr girl uses depression / anxiety for attention.
>>38251175
Had a good laugh, thanks, slut.
>>38251143
Ugly men get laid. Short men get laid. Dicklets get laid. Social problems can be fixed. You are not actually mentally ill.
Why did you choose to become a robot?
>>38251175
How do i choose to stop being one? I would do anything for a gf
>>38251178
It's all facts. Prove me wrong. You can't.
>>38251196
Leave the basement, get a haircut and a job, get hobbies, talk to people.
>>38250990
I have an IQ of ~137 but ok
>>38251020
only 1
>>38251182
she needs to cut off her foothand and get a literal robotic hand
the rest is just learning how to take care of your skin and shit.
>>38251190
Indeed. It's like a female version of /r9k/.
>boohoo I'm so depressed give me attention XDDD
>>38251211
muh dik
I love alt girls.
Are you slutty?
>>38251211
Not bad. But we can't see your tits. Chestlet?
>>38251206
i already have a job, i do talk to people(you need to be more specific on that) and what hobbies do i need to get? i've done all sorts of shit, tennis, baseball, the gym, it all led to nothing... well i almost had sex this one time but that's ancient history
>>38251211
Online Tests are bullshit, and a high IQ doesn't mean that you are functional social creature... Dor you to make that assumtions means you are dumb, also you look bloated
>>38251193
It's alright. It's not as if I have schizophrenia or anything. Also, combine all of those together. These things bring low self confidence with them. If you're ugly or stand out there's a high chance you get bullied. And even though there's this big meme going on, bullying actually leaves mental scars.
Combine all the things I wrote with this and you get your robot.
>>38251211
You're so pretty. Go away!
>>38251231
kinda. I'm really submissive so anything that feels degrading or masochistic (up to a point) turns me on
>>38251232
a bit, yes
>>38251211
IQ tests only determine how good you are at IQ tests. Literally nothing else.
Also, unless you post a timestamp you're just a sad robot impersonating a girl
>>38251211
i hope you kill yourself you gross whore and get off my board
>>38251231
>>38251232
kill these orbiter shits too
>>38251251
die
>>38251211
>I have an IQ of ~137, but I'm still a dumb slut
So, this is what fembots truly are. Okay.
Women are dumb by nature, I fucking swear...
>>38251251
Too bad you already have a bf. I wouldn't mind a slutty alt submissive fucktoy.
>>38251276
Apparently men are assholes by nature. What a shock.
>>38251211
that's so hot, too bad you're so submissive
>>38251285
You have an IQ of 137 and your career goal is the show off your ass and titties instead
You deserve to be mocked.
>>38251285
Sure thing, lass, sure thing. You have no idea who I am irl and this is the first time I insult a woman. You had the honor to be the first one to trigger me. Congratulations.
>>38251251
>I'm really submissive so anything that feels degrading or masochistic (up to a point) turns me on
Email pls.
im sick of females coming in here and ruining our board
all they want is your attention you stupid numale shits
the only response a whore deserves is being shown the door
>>38251328
Fuck off back to /lgbt/ you homo trap enabler.
>>38251211
>>38251251
Murder yourself disgusting roastie, you don't belong here fucking slut
>>38251275
Glad to see there's atleast one goodposter in this thread
>>38251211
How do you feel about:
- rape fantasies
- being used as a pet
- being make to choke on a dick halfway down your throat
- being hit during sex
- being used by black men in a big gangbang
>>38251333
You fucking ingrate, you don't have to be gay to not want dumbass whores clogging and ruining your board, tie the fucking noose faggot
>>38251333
You're too stupid to understand what you're doing aren't you.
>>38251211
>>38251020
ROASTIE BROKE THE RULES.
REPORT HER
>>38251349
>>38251333
>>38251232
>>38251231
why does this happen everytime a """""girl""""" posts on this board
>>38251380
r9k has fallen, to even lower depths than thought possible
>>38251360
>>38251247
>>38251270
>>38251275
>>38251276
>>38251346
SHE'S LITERALLY BREAKING THE NEW BOARD RULE.
REPORT THE ROASTIE DUMBOS
She's literally breaking the rules and you could report her now.
>>38251380
Because /lgbt/ keep raiding /r9k/ with their gay agenda.
>>38251380
brown and black population of r9k goes loose at the sight of what resembles a female
>>38251373
>>38251404
Done. Wow, first time I've ever reported someone.
>>38251380
Already answered above, the girls on this board are lewd and slutty. I'm not justifying it but it's really difficult to find girls this fucked up and DTF outside of Tumblr. And Tumblr girls are usually hardcore libtards.
>>38251409
youre the problem you numale faggot
>>38251373
>>38251404
Done of course, hopefully the mods do something about this garbage
>>38251314
my career goal is to be a songwriter. but that has less to do with physical attractiveness and self esteem.
You're reporting a girl for posting nudes after you begged her to do it? That's so low and kind of gay.
>>38251428
IQ of 137, wants to be a songwriter
STILL WASTING YOUR INTELLECT. You're going for some illusive fucking pipe dream rather than using your intelligence and learning something useful.
You are taking the dumb basic bitch route
>>38251428
did you actually post a pic of yourself here?>>38251211
>>38250658
Self-esteem doesn't form out of nothing, it's built on things of substance. They lack self-esteem because they don't believe they have anything about them worth liking. Unable to self-validate, they seek validation from without by doing those things. Affirming they have meager value to others does nothing for their self-worth though, but they'll settle for good enough.
>>38251452
No one but thirsty faggots begged her to do it.
>>38251452
Weeding out the roasties to get them banned is elaborate and wonderful, piss off faggot
Realtalk for a second here.
Why do you guys hate fembots so much?
If you had an ounce of sense, you'd hit one of them in your area up and lose your v card.
>>38251211
>LITERALLY BREAKING THE FUCKING RULES
Reminder to all of you. >>37842102
>>38251490
I want to know the same thing. I swear some of the people who post here are would be rapists or serial killers.
>>38250813
>tattoos and/piercings
>"but I've never self harmed"
Right, the inks all have such 'meaning' and 'a message'.
>>38251490
>If you had an ounce of sense, you'd hit one of them in your area up and lose your v card.
You're so fucking naive. Do you know how many people are trying to hit up the same fembot and how many people aren't going to get fucked and ended up being led on?
Seriously stop being a normalfag and use your brain. ALMOST ALLLLLLLL OF THE WELL KNOWN ROASTIEPOSTERS NEVER DATE ROBOTS. They come here for male validation and free (you)s, compliments, and orbiters
>>38251490
>he thinks fembots are gonna give robots any time of the day
lmao, thanks for the laugh.
Chad still gets it all
>>38251490
>>38251502
Hmm Hmm Hmm
First off, casual sex is for fucking degenerates, only normies even consider that shit, and we hate them because they are like all other roasties and they've been ruining our board!
Secondly, you're a fucking idiot, we don't want them dead, we want them to stop ruining the place we go to escape.
>>38251520
>You're so fucking naive. Do you know how many people are trying to hit up the same fembot and how many people aren't going to get fucked and ended up being led on?
I've fucked girls from 4chan. It's not some ploy, the girls here really are unhinged, unhappy and ripe for the picking if you're even half-way good looking.
>>38251520
Are they well known? How many do you think post on the board? I don't know of any specific roasties.
>>38251541
Yeah cause you browse fucking /soc/ you faggot. "Fembots" here don't do meetups. it's incredibly rare.
Do you know where you're at?
>>38251549
There's only been a few. they are well known among people old enough to remember them
>>38251502
Go get BLACKED femanon.
No really, go do it so I can fap to it.
>>38251571
>Do you know where you're at?
I dislike the attention whoring so I don't want to continue this discussion, but believe me. The girls on /soc/ are actually harder to fug than the girls on /r9k/ are.
>>38251537
>Hmm Hmm Hmm
This reminded me of Goldman from HotD 2 for some reason.
>>38251628
>The girls on /soc/ are actually harder to fug than the girls on /r9k/ are
You're full of shit.
I doubt you've even fucked actual fembots here. ACTUAL NO.
It makes sense because your a Chad creeping onto /r9k/ expecting autistic spergs to do the same as you.
Would you expect someone whose tone deaf to play the violin?
>>38251628
Hmmm, well anyway, seriously get the fuck off my board already !!
>>38250813
>I have a boyfriend, had a girlfriend at the same time at one point
My god just end it all. end yourself already
>>38251309
>>38251232
>>38251231
You are all pathetic, i would kill you three without hesitation
>>38250766
if you think all men have pissed in bottles and watch anime then you really need to fucking go outside dude
>>38251193
>Social problems can be fixed
I won't get a response, but how?
>>38252422
I'm outside right now at my job in a building site.
Noones a stranger to piss bottles and cartoons family.
Idk who you talk to but they must be quite sheltered.
>>38250658
my father treated me like a piece of garbage through out my childhood by constant belittlement and beatings and so i have grown with no self worth in general.
>>38253862
How low? Would you whore yourself for attention?
No self esteem but they still ain't fuckin me.
>>38253924
What did you mean by this?
Oregano
>>38250658
>He thinks women being whores are considered low self esteem fembots
Wew lad, do I have some news for you bud.
>>38253998
Fembots have no self esteem and fuck anyone except me because of how ugly I am
>>38253924
i can't meet any femanons because i don't live anywhere near them, i am insanely jelaus of all the guys who are lucky to be close to them, they are the absolute top tier women
>>38253906
some girls want to feel loved and so they whore themselves out to seek approval from the male gender and to realize that it's never enough.
i have been seductive in the past, but it has improved nothing in my life, i'm still miserable. i'm considering ending it soon
>>38254064
I know how it feels m8, but think I'm uglier than you
>>38254125
That's pretty sad. Now it feels morally wrong to ask you for pics before you kill yourself
It's incredibly disappointing how many girls have self esteem issues from not being raised properly. It seems like it's always one extreme or the other. Either you're a perfect princess or completely worthless. It's disgusting how so many women aren't able to just see themselves as a normal person with their own strengths and weaknesses.
>>38252714
Bash your skull with platitudes until your brain is a slurry that all oozes out.
>>38250658
you are totally right, i never considered this
since you are obviously very knowledgeable about this topic, what's the best way to build self esteem?
Idk man,growing up ugly and being bullied by both guys and popular girls fucked me up forever.
I did end up looking good later in life (diet,nosejob and religiously into skincare) and getting male attention but I see through it and know that they just see me as a hot plaything and wouldn't look at me 10 years ago/couldn't care less about me on a deeper level which makes me cynical.
THANKS, JEWS!
I REALLY LIKE THIS SOCIETY WE HAVE!
THANKS FOR THIS!
I LOVE THE CONTRIBUTIONS YOU'VE MADE TO SOCIETY, JEWS!
>>38254246
>(diet,nosejob and religiously into skincare)
Are you sachi (oyasumi punpun)
You should set up real goals and no give a shit about others.
>>38251490
Probably the same people who also post trap and gay threads all day. In other words, /lgbt/ invading /r9k/.
>>38252714
With practice. By not shutting yourself out of society.
>>38250658
They deserve to feel bad for themselves. Like they have any use for their "self-esteem" anyway
>>38250658
I would risk getting stabbed by that knife she's holding for groping those totties
>>38254246
What's wrong with that? Enjoy your inner slut. Spread your legs for Chad and have fun.
>>38254184
>It's disgusting how so many women aren't able to just see themselves as a normal person with their own strengths and weaknesses.
i have been trying for almost a decade to see myself as an adequate person, but apparently being raised properly and in a way that encourages self love is crucial
>>38254207
>what's the best way to build self esteem?
Get an anon. I'm tired of reading stories by anons about how the find low self esteem girls just to be betray by them when they higher their self esteem.
>>38254430
It is, but it's never too late to change.
>>38254418
FUCK OFF YOU KIKE BASTARD
>>38254430
Look... you need to start being more reasonable. Instead of wallowing in self pity lying to yourself, take some time to actually judge yourself and accept it. Then imagine what you want yourself to be and the you that's happy and do what that person would do. And surround yourself with the right people. Don't hang around druggies of you want to be a scholar.
>>38254464
>it's never too late to change
Actually, the social situations you are exposed to during developmental stages of your growth pretty much shape how your brain is going to process social situations for the rest of your life.
It's incredibly difficult to change.
>>38254536
Oh, well ok. Hope is over I guess. No use in being optimistic if you can't change. Right?
>>38254536
isn't there a powerful hallucinogen that helps rewire your brain to use for this?
>>38254536
Not true. You just keep telling yourself that because you're afraid of making an effort and change. Plenty of people change in adulthood, especially those who make a conscious decision to do so.
>>38254455
i have an anon bf who is pretty cool. it didn't help though, and he wants me to have more self esteem too
>>38254430
What are insecure about?
Oregano
>>38254585
i have tried to change (accepting my faults, seeing that i am worthy), but i always run into OCD, it doesn't seem natural, it drains me, it feels like i am acting
>>38254642
How old are you, and do you have a job?
>>38254337
You faggots really think females will pick you over someone who looks better? Try over at lolcow instead. They have belly bf threads all the time and pick the ugliest of us. Go over there if you want an Internet gf
>>38254668
the question is, why do they matter?
>>38254306
Yeah I'll probably focus on hobbies/making money but being bitter and sceptical about human relationships feels lonely,lol.
>>38254418
There is no fun. Natural born stacies are used to chad attention so they delude themselves into thinking "sex=they love and like me." Growing up hated on/ignored(at best) by those guys I know it couldn't be further from truth and slutting it up would just feel mechanical and animalistic.
>>38254628
Knowing that there's someone who is with you and likes you is a good start to feeling good. Now here's me: every day I look into the mirror I see myself uglier and with less chance of finding someone.
>>38254628
Other people can be a catalyst in helping you get your shit together, but it's ultimately you who does the change.
>>38254728
Don't give up. Relationships are very important. No one has to be completely static.
>>38254702
It absolutely does. If you're 19, don't complain about not getting girls since you're just a kid. And having a job matters, since if you're a NEET, then you have bigger problems in life to fix before getting girls.
>>38254738
Not the anon you replied to, but
I thought about that sort of mindset. I got really tired of thinking about myself in that way. It just felt like a burden to other people. So I just try to have fun and forget most of my troubles.
The pictures help me feel good about myself, albeit temporarily. It is attention pure and simple. I did it at my lowest and when I felt really fucking alone and undesirable. When I had no one to even talk to. It got addictive. Strangely though its always been at odds with my real life self. I don't want to sleep around, that would be damaging and make me feel worse. Online however, it was safe. I had some power.
As for mental issues. Well, I'm not destructive with it. I get nights where i hate myself so much but they pass. I'm just scared of losing everything to the point where I don't even try. Dunno if bipolar or depressed with my moods desu.
>>38250658
Exactly why I gave up on women long ago. They are all whores trying to fill some emotional hole with dick.
>>38254791
>Not the anon you replied to, but
>I thought about that sort of mindset. I got really tired of thinking about myself in that way. It just felt like a burden to other people. So I just try to have fun and forget most of my troubles.
Good for you, you're making an effort at least.
>>38251211
I'd ask you to be my gf but frankly I'm (especially) afraid of women like you.
nice butt tho
>women can immediately get positive male attention by posting nude pics and feel good at any time
>men can literally do nothing to get positive female attention
And women want to say they can be robots. I fucking hate them.
>>38254827
I have a feeling I know who this poster is. But, whatever, hope you're doing better now.
>>38254908
Wtf are you on? There are plenty of things guys can do to get immediate attention. Of course, provided you're not a fat autistic neckbeard manchild NEET.
I hate what our society has become
>>38254904
So far being an introvert and mostly not being initiative hasn't gotten me a gf, but I still have high hopes. I don't worry about it that much.
>>38250658
>these days
all time.
they gain self esteem after 18-25
>>38254728
>Yeah I'll probably focus on hobbies/making money but being bitter and sceptical about human relationships feels lonely,lol.
Then you can use your likes to help you get human interaction.
>>38254924
Name one. What can a guy do?
>>38254945
yell loudly in public
>>38254910
You might do. Shits not awful. It's the fact things are a lot better in some ways, and that I still have bad nights. That does make me worry. But the antidepressants were a fucking meme.
>>38254930
It's awful isn't it. Being able to communicate anywhere in the world, living longer and better than ever because of technology. And being able to get laid easier than ever.
>>38255091
>And being able to get laid easier than ever.
Not for me
>>38255091
And look how happy everybody is.
>And being able to get laid easier than ever.
ooga booga
>>38255091
>Being able to communicate anywhere in the world, living longer and better than ever because of technology.
True. Except now relationships are ruined from women being "equal" to men and now there is literally no reason for a woman to be with a low quality to average man. Just be a fucktoy for Chad and become a single mother supported by the state.
>>38255018
I hope you pull through. I'm just yet another anon, but if one day you think you want to just talk to a normie/Chad, then I'll be glad to. But that's for /soc/ or something and not /r9k/.
>>38255123
>>38255129
Do you seriously think you would have got laid if you were born 50 or 100 or 200 years ago? Hell no. Most likely you would be dead by now, dead as kissless virgins.
>>38255159
>Do you seriously think you would have got laid if you were born 50 or 100 or 200 years ago?
ooga booga
>>38255132
You're fucking deluded if you think being a low quality male in the past meant you were still given a wife. It's easier than ever to get laid for both men and women. It's easier than ever to find serious partners. All thanks to modern technology making the world smaller. No longer is everyone stuck looking at potential partners from their hometown.
>>38255159
I'll probably die virgin
>>38255132
>ruined
the only reason relationships lasted in the past was because life was so miserable that you couldn't survive on your own. people didn't love each other, that was for the upper classes. and the upper classes didn't take it seriously any more than we do now. laws don't change human nature, we treat women the same now as we always did, which includes beta fuccbois who are scared of them and aggressive retards who try to bully them
>>38255159
>>38255181
Men had more value in the past. Now men are worthless. No reason for a woman to be with a guy that isn't Chad. Just go into his harem and you're set. The state will take care of you.
>>38255237
>people didn't love each other,
Sad. If nobody loves each other, then why would a woman not just be in Chad's harem?
>>38255237
People today cheat much less and have much less casual sex. In the "good old days", everyone was fucking left and right. It was just kept secret. STDs galore, since no one knows what they were, and plenty of kids whose father was actually someone else.
>>38255242
>men had more value
XD
you wouldn't have had any value in any year. not that you can measure this horseshit. it was easier for the men who survived wars, but you still had to live through a fucking war to get there.
>>38255242
If you lived in the past, what would you have been? How would you have found a wife and kids?
>>38255264
Fact of the matter is that even if you're 100% right, I could have raped a woman or been in an army that conquered a town and took a woman as my own.
I can't do anything of the sort today because society protects women from anything and everything. Betas have to defend women with their lives and then subsidize that womans lifestyle while they get nothing in return. Chad fucks and impregnates all women while betas fund their lives and keep society churning.
>>38255283
In all likelihood, a farmer. And then I could have gotten a woman based on my value as a provider. Can't do that now. Women work, steal jobs from men, and then slut around.
>>38255263
Wait, so women were always whores? I'm shocked
>>38255259
>chads harem
chad doesn't have time for a harem. if we're really going to stereotype some top tier man, he would be family oriented and sociable. harems are for cult of personality attention whores, which might be appealing for a lot of women but there aren't enough available spots.
>>38255263
it's likely yeah. but people had more kids in the past, too. sex is not a bad/scary thing, especially with modern medicine and education. i know that for many periods of time, people just stopped thinking about sex much because they were so stressed out from hunger or being overworked, but again it depends on class and location.
>>38255306
>I could have raped a woman
Unless you were from a higher class you'd be murdered
>been in an army that conquered a town and took a woman as my own.
If you weren't murdered or crippled in a process
>>38250658
I'm looking for a low estem girl to send me pictures of here.
Sincerely, anon
>>38255322
So why aren't you a farmer today? They get pretty good subsidies, and will certainly have no problem being a provider for a family.
>>38255368
>you'd be murdered
No one would have known.
>If you weren't murdered or crippled in a process
I can be murdered or crippled now.
>>38255384
Because women don't value men being providers. No reason to even work hard if you aren't Chad.
>>38255365
Indeed, degenerate sex was a thing for the upper class mainly, since they didn't have to worry about dying from hunger and had plenty of free time. The aristocrats in medieval Europe were complete fucking degenerates that would put most things today to shame.
>>38255306
>to get sex i would have had to join an army, murder civilians and rape some ugly hag who hasn't already been taken up or killed
what does that have to do with value?
>subsidize...nothing in return
you're just a piece of shit if that's you. but i promise you that there were losers in the past, too. nobody will remember you either.
>>38255408
Or maybe you're just a lazy sack of shit and don't want to work and expect everything given to you. People like you would have been long since dead in the past.
>>38255413
My point is that I had recourse, I could just take what I wanted and wouldn't get punished for it.
Now we live in a society where I'm forced to comply and be a good little beta.
>>38255408
>"i provide nothing"
>surprised that he gets nothing in return
>>38255432
>>38255419
I make six figures and have a Masters degree. You don't know shit.
>>38255365
>if we're really going to stereotype some top tier man, he would be family oriented and sociable.
no thats sort of the average guy, the betas.
>>38255428
this is presuming that you are a brute surrounded by other brainless brutes.
that's like comparing your life with a dogs. there are other aspects of life beyond raping some chick after your supposedly guaranteed victory over another army. and no, some other brute would just knock the shit out of a beta trying to rape anyone and take her for himself.
stop playing video games.
>>38255476
Unfortunately for you, I have a brute's body so I would have fit in nicely and it's part of the reason I don't fit in now. I have the body of a worker drone.
>>38255432
I make shitty drawings, is that something?
>>38255457
betas are career oriented and socially awkward.
also, dudes who still want to fuck whores well into their adulthood without a stable family are usually insecure and useless outside of the bedroom. like who would this be, either some coddled royalty or a traveling salesman.
>>38255450
>i offer m'lady my Masters degree
>i am surprised that nobody wants me
>>38255428
You would get punished by whoever you pissed off. If you raped and murdered someone, then her brother Chads would slowly and brutally torture you before killing you. Now you merely get a few years in jail.
Life is so much easier for you today, and you still choose to waste it.
>>38255497
"My gift to industry is the genetically engineered worker, or
Genejack. Specially designed for labor, the Genejack's muscles and
nerves are ideal for his task, and the cerebral cortex has been
atrophied so that he can desire nothing except to perform his
duties. Tyranny, you say? How can you tyrannize someone who cannot"
feel pain?
-- Chairman Sheng-ji Yang,
"Essays on Mind and Matter"
>>38255497
then you should have no problem ever attracting a woman.
>>38255503
plenty of artsy girls out there.
>>38250658
Why do guy robots have low self esteem? Same thing
>>38255432
>providing anything other than sperm for a woman
>>38255509
the majority of the country isn't socially awkward anon, though maybey in a couple of generation it will be for now its now.
>>38255450
Then you should be easily able to find quality girls. Why aren't you?
>>38255509
>who still want to fuck whores well into their adulthood without a stable family
This sounds like an opinion. I'd rather be this guy than a guy who practices monogamy.
>>38255523
>>38255516
I don't fit the archetype of what is attractive now. I have a wide, stocky frame with short legs and arms made to lift heavy things and put them down again.
>>38255534
if he doesn't have the charm and social skills all he's going to get is goldiggers,
>>38255534
Because I'm white.
>women want a rich, educated beta white man
They want Chad and the jailbreaking Tyrone.
>>38255523
>plenty of artsy girls out there.
Difficult to find them too
>>38255537
doo you look like this?
>>38255547
They're all golddiggers just by a different name. Relationships are essentially legal prostitution except the guy more often than not cares more about her to appease what she wants. If she isn't satisfied, no sex.
>>38255575
that dude would legit get so much pussy
>>38255575
Basically. Dwarf or hobbit.
>>38255528
>betas are the majority
sure, but either way a top tier man wouldn't abandon the most important parts of being a man. the fuck-everything-that-moves phase should only last so long before you want to raise children and do adventurous/constructive shit.
>>38250658
Maybe but I don't think it's because of anything anybody else does.
Honestly it seems like women struggle to comprehend the concept that doing one thing can prevent you from doing another. That's like what third wave feminism is all about.
>you can binge eat krispy kremes and still be beautiful
>you can be a slut and still get married to a good family man later
I mean I personally know women who throw temper tantrums when you remind them that they irreparably fucked their lives up. Why do they do this?
>>38251211
Holy Shit I think I know you.
You have a tumblr right?
>>38255537
then you should not have any problem ever attractive a women.
>>38255536
that's fine, i'm generalizing, but manwhores aren't at the top of society. it's entertaining when its reality TV or a Shakespearean tragedy, it just turns out that most successful dudes still aim for families and tight, down to earth communities. the narcissist is in his own world and that's okay too.
>>38255672
>it just turns out that most successful dudes still aim for families and tight, down to earth communities
>>38255672
>then you should not have any problem ever attractive a women.
Well I do. So you tell me what the issue is. Could it be that every woman is a no good dirty whore?
Fembots need to disclose the number of male partners they have taken into their bedchambers/the number of males who have known them.
>>38254246
Once again, how many men have you had sex with?
>>38254827
Same question to you camwhoring fembot.
>>38255525
Same question to you.
>>38255553
Master's degree, 6 figures, white. If you can't get a girl you are either lying or not telling us something.
>>38255707
every woman you talk to, yeah probably. maybe they are all trannies.
>>38255850
Problem is people like him have the same attitude a lot of Asian betas do, that their salary alone should entitle them to a good looking girl.
But it doesn't work that way in the West. Never did. Women always had a bit more sway over who their partner was here. That's why white people are better looking than other races to begin with (sexual selection).
>>38255873
there are boatloads upon boatloads of women who will commit to any kind of guy who has a 6 figure salary and a decent education.
>>38250813
>I feel like I'll always be inadequate because of my early unattractiveness.
>I have a boyfriend,
>had a girlfriend
The problem with women is that they are stupid.
>>38255920
Asian ones more likely than White in my experience.
The thing is, white women are for better or worse driven somewhat by the idea of physical desirability. They want to be with a guy who is good looking and who can fuck them well.
This is just a fact I'm telling you dude. There's a reason a lot of guys who graduate STEM fields end up bitter and alone, they thought salary alone would scoop them a high quality mate.
>>38255949
>This is just a fact I'm telling you dude. There's a reason a lot of guys who graduate STEM fields end up bitter and alone, they thought salary alone would scoop them a high quality mate.
What complete bullshit. What is your agenda and why do you tell such blatant lies?
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>>38251492
You are chosen.[email protected] [/spoiler
>>38255989
Why are you so autistic? There are anecdotal examples in this very thread.
You're obviously a kid who is hoping that upon graduation your big salary is going to be able to make up for your lack of social skills.
Trust me, there are plenty of well socialized, good looking men in finance and law, those women aren't going to trade up $20k more per year for a greasy pan faced 5 foot 6 Southern Chinese dude.
Keep deluding yourself though autist.
Women don't feel sad. They are outgoing and happy always.
>>38256024
There is one raging lying autist who can't get girls. Everyone other STEM graduate can, easily. Why do you put more weight on his anecdotes rather than facts from thousands of non-virgins?
>>38256064
>Everyone other STEM graduate can, easily.
Nonsense. I'm friends with a 29 year old Indian virgin Physics grad.
Like I said, you're coping. Women like good looking people just as much as men do.
>>38255949
you're wrong.
>salary alone
it does in most cases. engineers historically have one of the highest marriage rates. doctors almost all have trophy wives.
you're talking about losers who don't talk to women or have unrealistic standards (and most likely shit salaries too). you're projecting your own problems onto women with this "good looking" nonsense, have you ever walked into a shopping center or literally any social event? you might have to be funny or a good listener if you're poor to get a stable girlfriend, but there is no trend with single dudes and being simply weird looking.
>>38256079
>physics grad
this only says that he's a former student. how is that attractive? he needs a good salary first.
also, indians are mentally retarded when it comes to civilized life. he could go back to india and swim in retard pussy.
>>38256083
Doctors aren't cut from the same cloth as say, a software engineer. They have to be sociable as a result of their work.
If nerdy engineers get wives, then they're literally getting Chad's used up trash.
Like I said, you think women aren't motivated by looks: But outside of places like East Asia, they are. Massively.
>>38256121
>he needs a good salary first.
He works for a major drugs company. He earns decent money.
I'm not sure what your point is here, could you re-state it?
I'm simply stating that unattractive people, regardless of salary (unless they're genuinely wealthy, which upper middle class professionals outside of biglaw partners and a handful of surgeons aren't) aren't going to attract women. Maybe around the 28+ mark they'll pick up girls looking for a meal ticket, but who the fuck wants that?
>>38256079
You know one or two outliers and disregard the 99% that goes against your beliefs. If someone is a STEM graduate with a well paid job, and can't get a girl, he must have some serious issues.
>>38256158
He's hideously ugly, awfully boring, or an angry sperglord that makes Elliot look sane. No other excuse is possible.
>>38256161
>he must have some serious issues.
There are tons of these people in IT/development. You have absolutely fuck all idea what you're talking about dude.
They're unattractive to women because they're ugly and can't hold a basic conversation, they're also petty, autistic and find it hard to empathize with others.
I've lost count of the number of programmers I've met who are like this.
Civil Engineers are more normal, the nerd stereotype rarely applies there.
>>38256177
He's simply ugly.
>>38256125
>they are
they are not. only in hollywood/LA and maybe new york, but even there you have tons of options if you make money. looks are first impressions, money is a foundation. if women were motivated by looks, mens fashion/cosmetics would be the largest industry outside of finance.
>used up trash
clearly you've never met an engineer. or just hate women, which is fine but not meaningful.
>>38256158
>regardless of their salary
good salary is the easiest way to get women.
your indian friend just doesn't want to, or thinks he's entitled to a girl who already has money/social status.
>physical traits inherited from parents
>mental illness is also inherited
if you're all as ugly and terrible as you say, how'd any of your parents get laid to produce you? you're just a sum of their parts.
>>38256238
He probably thinks he's entitled to a 10/10 Stacey who is also a virgin and has a PhD.
>>38256211
>if women were motivated by looks
Listen to yourself here. You're essentially arguing women are automatons who don't feel sexual desire. You are almost certainly a delusional KHV at this point.
>mens fashion/cosmetics would be the largest industry outside of finance.
There's this thing called sexual dimorphism my autistic friend, the sort of deliberately manicured appearance women maintain for us is not what they find attractive in men. Western women like:
- Good skin.
- Big eyes.
- Good head of hair.
- Well defined jaw.
- Well built but not overly muscular.
>>38256238
No, it's because the majority of white girls don't care what an Indian dude earns (unless he's a liquid millionaire perhaps), they find them ugly by default. People also have this thing called "ingroup preference" that often overrides other factors, my delusional Asian friend.
And the easiest way to get women is through good looks. People have demonstrated this through fake OKC/Tinder accounts dozens of times on /r9k/ alone, let alone in more serious studies. An eye-catching partner is quite literally the most immediate draw.
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>>38256177
This reaching is just sad.
>>38256290
>don't feel sexual desire
no i just know without a doubt that looks are not very important to women. take a look outside your window at the variety of men who have relationships with them.
>sexual dimorphism
i take it back, if you're this retarded and you can't tell the difference between men, i'm glad you'll never have kids and you're right it's just because you're "ugly" (on the inside)
>white girls
why is he only thinking about white girls? also, why is he only thinking about rich, snobby, model white girls? is your friend, DARE I SAY IT, as retarded as you?
When women try to make a point about "fragile masculinity" i just laugh.
>>38256238
>your indian friend just doesn't want to
lol'ed.
if you think any amount of money can mitigate the creepiness of indian men then you're more socially retarded than i thought.
>>38256330
>it's reaching to say that there are plenty of women who are gold diggers or at least desperate to find a man with a good income.
>>38256363
i've met indians who were too scared to go after girls. isn't that at least somewhat related to the fact that they are all given the option to have arranged marriages?
>>38251131
I'm 6'2 and still a robot anon, tall doesn't make you attractive or confident
>>38256367
This is different to your earlier claim that the vast majority of women desire some IT nerd over Chad because the IT nerd is making $100k a year.
People who have never had a woman sexually desire them on a base and primal level often have these
>>38256398
Not that anon.
The problem with Indian men isn't that they're scared to go after the girls, it's the opposite. They're socially retarded and can't read social queues and subtle rejection well. Of course I'm sure your sperglord plan of showing a girl at a bar your paycheck account after she turns her back to you and starts ignoring you will definitely win her over to Mr. Patel.
>>38256330
It's sad how facts are pointed out repeatedly and raging autistic manchildren still refuse to accept them.
>>38256415
being tall is attractive, being a self destructive weirdo is unattractive.
>>38256420
*often have these delusional attitudes that women don't feel sexual desire or lust or attraction.
It's impossible to spell this out to someone to someone who has never been the object of such desire. It's why you get so many weirdos who claim "women don't enjoy sex".
>>38256428
Tall doesn't make a man attractive. Tall doesn't give you a good face or physique, in fact it's the opposite.
>>38256367
If that's what you want in life then go for it. I'll personally work on my career, my physique, my looks and my extracurricular interests. I've met enough losers in my line of work who are pulling in six figures yet are either perennial virgins or stuck with 4/10s to know that the claim money overrules everything else is complete nonsense.
>>38256420
>vast majority of women
i said boatloads, not majority. IT nerds have measurably greater success over some furniture salesman.
income/education is absolutely correlated with higher marriage rates, lower divorce rates, and quality of life indicators (except for number of children and a few others after a certain threshold)
>it's the opposite
>socially retarded
i said that he either doesn't want a girl or is retarded. some don't approach girls at all, some just fail. good job, he's retarded like many indians. tell him to go back.
>>38256480
>that the claim money overrules everything else is complete nonsense.
It kind of does in East Asia. In the West it's a lot rarer to see a woman put up with genuinely ugly men for the sake of his paycheck, unless he's Danny DeVito-tier rich.
And even then he can count on being cheated on.
>>38256509
>income/education is absolutely correlated with higher marriage rates, lower divorce rates, and quality of life indicators
This says nothing about the quality of the women involved in these exchanges. Or the desirability of the men on a base level. That's my point.
I'm not denying women will, all other things being equal, pick the guy with the better salary. But it's simply not true that some Indian or Chinese nerd who can barely talk to a girl is going to find himself more _sexually_ desirable to women as a result of having a better income.
>>38256509
>success over some furniture salesman.
The brokers and sales guys I've met in finance are overwhelmingly more successful with women than the guys from my sort of department (accountancy), let alone IT.
>>38256480
there are losers in every line of work. i'm saying that you wouldn't be single if you made good money and didn't want to be single. if you think that only the top 10% of women are worth your time and you fail with them, the effect of that is that you would rather be single. i still dated while i thought about what kind of girl would be best for me eventually, because i wasn't gay.
>muh career
>muh physique
cope, my friend. as long as you're happy then it works out, all ive said was that looks aren't as important as your income overall, and that just like hot dudes can land a variety of girls, so can rich dudes. without any other appeal.
>>38256571
>so can rich dudes. without any other appeal.
Rich is different to "earns a good salary".
>>38256007
>You are chosen
Chosen for what?
>>38256542
>barely talk to a girl
then WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING POINT?
"yes tons of women will date and marry this idiot, but he doesn't understand how to communicate ha ha it's because he's ******ugly*******"
what is the matter with you?
>>38256567
successful with whores*
also they are wealthy AND sociable, right? there is clearly an advantage there. the dynamics between relationships of guys who meet a thousand girls and guys who just meet a couple transcend a conversation about income, but if you are in IT you have a far easier road than some bozo who makes 200 in commissions on a good day.
>tfw civil engineer for my city's transport authority
>tfw salary is <$45,000
Do you Americans just have huge salaries in general?
I don't think many people here associate civil engineering with really high salaries unless you're talking about the very best of the best firms.
>>38256608
It cannot be said on this board. But you are worthy if you so choose this path.
>>38256661
>******ugly*******
I'm >>38256662, my success with women went up when I started to work out, took better care of myself in general. Before that I was probably quite ugly, skinnyfat, never shaved much, didn't take good care of myself etc.
Looks are kinda important. There's just something about good looking people in general that draws others to them, they're magnetic. And some guys are just unfortunate in the facial department to the degree that no amount of work will help them.
>>38256662
>Do you Americans just have huge salaries in general?
Labor scarcity.
Civil engineers are no big deal in non-anglosphere countries where it isn't a case of 50% of your capable workforce trying to worm their way into parasitical sectors like law and finance for the sake of $$$.
Women are social parasites. If you aren't full of resources they wont give you the time of day. Women can't feel emotions like love because everything they do is based around physical security. Money = security. Without money women wont consider you.
>>38256597
This.
>Good looking dude can get a woman/women without anything else to speak for him. Look at that /r9k/ dude who fucks whores he met on Tinder in his CAR.
>Guy with a decent middle class salary is fucked if he's unsalvageably unattractive (i.e. his looks issues aren't related to stuff like weight and skincare). His only option is a post-30 marriage to a woman who has been around the cock carousel
Another red-pill about STEM professions is that the massive sex-ratio disparity means competition for decent looking nerdy chicks who aren't whores is ridiculously intense and there simply aren't enough to go around.
We all end up settling eventually. Some moreso than others.
>>38256880
the real red pill is there arn't enough stem JOBS to go around.
>>38256904
There are in development my friend. There's more jobs than there are work, hence the inflated salaries.
Don't know enough about engineering to comment.
Medicine's job stability is incredibly high, doctors quite literally trade sex for drugs and still end up getting to practice medicine in some capacity a few years later (e.g. that gook who UA righteously BTFO'd a few months back).
How did this thread turn into a salary circle-jerk?
If you brag about your salary, you're a normie and you aren't welcome here. I don't care how much of a LE NERD you were in college with your Big Bang Theory watching engineering buddies.
Fuck off.
>>38257165
>going to college
>instantly crippling yourself with debt so your first decade in the rat race is being eaten alive by it
>not just building an immaculate portfolio and transcript using your endless NEET timing doing mind numbing shit all alone that most people would consider hell but you in your autism consider heaven
>not riding this anti-social jobs ladder forever as your exchange your $14-18 per hour job up to a $50 per hour job doing shit you would have done anyway at home
You fuckers need to learn/enjoy programming and you're set for life.
>>38257321
You need to be good at mathematics to do proper freelance dev stuff.
>Female friend complains about looking fat
>Don't deny it
>>38257354
Brainlets will always be bottom-tier but you can do basic collation shit for $12-16 with minor study and practice. No social interaction, your own boss, work at your own pace, can listen to music all day, read manga/books if you got the spare, etc. basically you're in a small room all day with 20-30 hours of work for the week and 40-50 hours of available work time to do it.
>>38250813
Literally imolate yourself, baiter.
Sage