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Post in this thread you stupid mother fuckers, post about MBTI and stuff, also no sensors allowed except ISTPs

Hmm what else... someone else do the links, I'm too lazy
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>>38203373
INFP here. Got accepted to the school I wanted after getting shit on the interview and being told i needed to show them a project for them to consider me.
We might just all make it bros.
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>>38203373
>tfw intp
>tfw to intelligent to find meaningness and happiness in the world
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>>38203766
>meaningness
I get that the ">to intelligent" meme, but goddamn, son.
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TFW they kick the main thot slayer from the discord
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I remember reading somewhere that INTPs get flustered quickly and recover from it slowly.

What can I do as an INTP to alleviate this?
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I'm apparently an INFJ? Is that a good type for a male?
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>>38203373
>Istp
>Never plan a thing
>Lie, cheat, mislead people just for the sake of slacking even more.
>Work last minute
>"Worries" last minute but it's more a "Fuck fuck fuck you stupid fucker fuck" feeling than a worrying for the future.
>Eventually Everything seems always to turn up right for me as my definition of "turn up right" is "Well, I survived that and I can slack again now".
>This makes me want to slack even more

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>38203911
its pretty OK tier
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>>38203911
Yeah INFJ is a great type if you're gay and want a bf otherwise good luck getting a gf you big baby hahahaha
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>>38203921
Big baby? Huh?
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>>38203904
get out of the sight of people and take 10 or 20 deep breaths focusing on your breathing. Then remember that few people will notice and even fewer people will care about whatever it is that got you flustered
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>>38203911
Suicide tier. Welcome to the club
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>>38203929
Cause INFJs ARE BABIES HHAHAHAHA BTFO

idk dude I'm ENTP and bored I just don't give a FUCKING FUCK
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whom here ENFP
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Who /INTP desperately struggling for actualization while coasting as a soulless puppet as the clock ticks and ticks and ticks/ here
>>38203904
INTPs are usually pretty stoic. Read Marcus Aurelius or alternatively quit being a bitch. Realize that getting flustered gets you nowhere and it's therefor not worth allowing yourself to get worked up over things you can't control.
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If I'm not mistaken, ENFJ is the perfect type for a girlfriend, correct?
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>>38203963
Me, my man, I amst ENFP
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INTJ master race reporting in. Have not been able to reach my full potential due to being the youngest child and everyone in my immediate family being perceiving types. Barely know how to drive at 22, was forced to drop out of college after 1 semester, etc. If I want anything done correctly and on time I literally have to do it myself.
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>>38203978
what are some of the recent highlights of your week anon
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>>38203962
>>38203963
>E
i won't warn you again
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>>38203986
Honestly dude stop being such a cuck and own up to your own problems. Lol, this is the first time I've ever called someone a cuck.
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infp here

how do i stop crying in bed for 20+ hours/day?
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>>38203972
>desperately struggling for actualization while coasting as a soulless puppet as the clock ticks and ticks and ticks
That about sums it all up doesn't it?
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>>38204002
I went biking. I hung out with an ISTP. I ran in the rain. I listened to music. I felt surprisingly little emotion these past few days.
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>>38204012
have fun being cucked out of fun social situations you ;little (((bitch)))
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>>38204022
Just get the fuck up my dude, cry while standing up, cry while working, cry while exercising. Eventuallly you won't be crying
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>>38204033
sounds comfy anon, but i understand the no emotion deal
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intp
140 IQ

Why do i have no drive for life and work teenage level jobs as a 30 year old?
I'm suppose to be smart right
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I WANT INFP GF GIVE ME INFP GF
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>>38204073
You're supposed to use your intelligence for something ya dummy
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>>38204027
The blackpill is realizing that the only successful INTPs are literal supergeniuses and that the rest of us are doomed to wagecuckery and never finding the answers to questions we don't even know we're asking.
My facade of "alternative normie" has become who I am.
I pray to Shiva, let me die.
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>>38204094

My social skills have apparently stunted all progress.
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>>38204108
You INTPs and your existential crises, so so silly

Why not just realize that nothing matters, so what, big deal? Now just live for whatever makes you comf and happy
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>>38204130
Use you intelligence to analyze the normies and mimic their behavior, duh
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>>38204142
When hes done, he should look like this
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>>38204073
>I'm suppose to be smart right
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>>38204133
>nothing matters
>life for something
Absolutely illogical
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>>38203972
They're stoic until they're being bashed in the head for the 1000th time while trying to put their minds at work.
>>38203977
I've fallen head over heels for some. But holy shit some will do a complete flip at the drop of a hat and lash out with intense rage, I don't want those.
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>>38204214
Nothing matters in the grand scheme of things, but you can have things that subjectively matter to you. Just follow your personal goals
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>>38203373
>Be INFP
>Smoke a lot of weed
>Make a lot of music
>Make a lot of art in general
>Barely leave house
>People always leave you
>Get emotionally moved by music a lot
Any other INFP's with similar experiences?
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>>38203911
Welcome to death, enjoy your stay
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INTP should all just kill themselves. They're fake, pretentious, worthless, selfish.
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>>38204041
>you have to pick on the lowest rung of society to feel good

Pretty sad desu
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>>38204359
INTP's are assholes, they always think they know everything.
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>>38204243
Why did you fall in love with those ENFJs?
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I'm INTJ. Fight me guys. No literally Fight me. Cmon. I like arguments were I lose, but you keep going because you have to absolutely win!. I even added a pic to help you in your arguments.
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>>38204367

INTP here.
Wasted my IQ on fapping and videogames.
I'm pretty aware I'm a failure bro.
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>>38204243
eventually every one of us does that flip, I do it around... every 6 months? I basically completely remove all my friends and contacts. Also date the entj, its the better version of us.
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>tfw INFP but not feminine
Am I broken or am I fixed?
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>>38204367
Hey!, I dont think I know everything, I'm pretty sure I know nothing actually!.
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>>38204265
Same feels, I'm happy that I'm not alone
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>>38204265
infp here, am pretty much the same, fuckin love music, except im too pussy to go and get weed since i dont have any connections but thats ok since i dont really care for it
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>>38204433
I'd never do weed!, I dont think I'd ever drink or do drugs!~ I dont believe its worth it!. .!!
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>>38203373
fucking op isnt even in this thread, he's paid to make same old threads.
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>>38204467
What're you talking about dude I'm here and I've been here the whole time, also i rarely make the OPs for MBTI general
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This thread is fucking boring holy shit, were the fuck did everyone go.
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>>38204444
well its not really like that its just that id have to go out of my way to get a hold of some and im too lazy
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>>38204512
I said that earlier, but I was talking about 4chan in general.
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>>38204534
4chan sucks, I dont even know why I came back here, I hate everyone here desu, theyre all fucking hypocritical pieces of shit who tell me my taste in X is shit and I should feel bad.
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>10 things you can only know if your dominant function is Ne by buzzfeed!
>People that think they will never do x thing are always the ones who go off rails 9/10 times when they do grab a drink, smoke weed etc.
>People are shit beyond anyone's wildest assumptions.
>Average Joe lies through his fucking teeth 24/7 in order to sound more appealing in the given context.
>Normans are barely self-conscious (this is how you get them to buy shit they never needed).
>Existentialism and Nihilism and people who call themselves nihilists are tryhard normies attempting to look smarter or cool.
>"Actually nevermind I don't want to finish this list/task/thing, I already saw it completed in my mind and I'm content with that."
>(...)

Dude, fuck that kid. Likely
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>>38203373
>entj
>18 last year of HS
>best HS in country
>really good in physics/CS not that bad in maths/economics
>fluent in several foreign languages native + English French and German [dsd2 cpe delf]
>got accepted in of the best uni in the world - Wth in Zurich (got any tips - please reply)
>i have no problem with social interactions, i can participate in presentations/debates before bigger audience without too much stress
>used to be deeply religious as a child, now agnostic
>don't find any meaning in existence, just have this drive to get shit done
>hate stagnation and wasting time
>just don't want to get left behind
> still no girlfriend though
>145 pounds and 6.0 height
>despite that, still slightly plump (mostly sedentary lifestyle - only cycling from time to time, plus used top be obese when was younger)
>politcal leanings: conservative evolutionism(fan of bismarck and burke) radical capitalist(great fan of Ayn Rand - read almost all of her books)
> loved prince, art of war, 48 laws of power, reads on war by von Clausewitz right now
> favorite book levathan - hobbes and prince by beloved machiavelli
> if any of you knows similar books, please reply
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>>38204367
Because many of them are emotionally immature. Just avoid them.
>>38204386
I liked that they liked my introverted thinking and I liked that they liked that I liked their extroverted feeling. Most other types don't appreciate my attributes like they do so merely interacting with one often feels therapeutic and validating.
>>38204423
:(
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>>38203373
I've been getting INTJ for like 2 years now and I still don't know how exactly this makes me inherently "different"
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>>38204880
You're supposed to be smart blah blah still a human being though dum dum
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>>38203962
Most realistic ENTP post
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>>38204367

That's because we do.
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>>38204910
th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-thanks nigga
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Is ISTP a good personality for a male?
Also what the fuck does it mean to be ISTP
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>>38204956
ISTP is the best personality, it basically means you just do as you please and are good at things. And I'm not even ISTP
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>>38204956
ISTP is a warrior archetype. You will be a great asset in the race war.
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>>38204041
>>38204052
>>38204898
ENxPs are having a field day shitposting
>inb4 I'm not that type you faggot
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>ISTP
>everything i read says that im supposed to be some sort of cool loner
>mfw im actually just a douche who lies and cheats in order to avoid responsibility
>mfw my 'cool, laidback' attitude is actually just me avoiding commitment
>mfw ive gotten bored with my relationships within weeks of starting them
>mfw the only reason im still a virgin is because i cant stand being with someone long enough to get to that level of affection

Why the fuck would anyone want to be an ISTP?
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>>38204991
Honestly I'm the op I've just been shitposting the entire thread cause, I am bored as fuckin fuck and you're all my subjects and will bow down to my unintelligible memes that are not only in the 3rd and 7th dinensions but also 4th and 9th

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!
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>>38204938
>>38204590
>>38204017
Shit there's more ENxPs. SHUT THE FUCK UP LEAVE INXX ALONE!
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>>38205013
oh, so this is what it means to be an ISTP. Pretty accurate for me
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>>38205014
Go to bed you fucking autismo. You're ruining the thread! Thank god you haven't gotten my fellow INTJs assmad yet bc that just kills the thread...don't shitpost at us INTJs unless you want this to get even more retarded
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>>38204991
Sometimes you just gotta.
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>>38205013
>the failed normie type
>more on r9k than evar
Thanks Summer thanks Reddit
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>>38205016
heh, you think I'm a fucking ENTP? LMAO youre fucking stupid.
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>>38205042
I'm not even frustrated anymore just disappointed
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>>38205034
Thing is, i keep seeing INTPs on here that want to somehow 'change' their personality type to ISTP
It's shit
Don't
It's nothing like being the cool loner in anime that you like to think it is
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>>38205037
Hhey fucko, guess what? I made this thread boi. And I ain't going to bed, sleeping is for pussies who don't have INTJs to bully. Dats right I'm bullying you cause I am chad and you're like, a little baby. Watch this *hits blunt* ascend to new levels of autism

Anyway INTJ you just gotta let loose my man, be chill nigga

Also silica gel and 250 degrees farenheit. Backpack. Dessicant. Get water from the air humidity. Or a fridge backpack. Anyway I just saved Africa

Oh also I invented a flamethrower except I just realized it's already been invented

Also my food idea still is valid

Cuck cuck cuck cuck you are a KEK
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>>38205054
>he thinks I can discern which anon he is
>he thinks ENxP is just ENTP, doesn't know what the "x" symbol means
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>>38205090
>op is not only a faggot and lacks understanding of the most fascinating and impressive type, INTJ,
>he's a complete retard who doesn't even know about the wordfilters
Kill yourself man
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>>38204142
I unironically do this in some kind of unique way that one might call original.
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>>38205095
>>38205095
>>38205095
No, I'm intp dude.
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>INTJ
>fucking hate everyone for no reason

anybody else know this feel?
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>>38205076
Nah, first time I did I got ISTP, but I didn't know what it meant, so your post described me pretty well
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>>38205125
Okay fine you fucker, I'll act "normal" for you! I'm just bantzing you my dude, in fact I quite enjoy INTJs. Some day I'm going to have sex with one. But for now it's fun to see you get buttmad like the little whiteboi cuck you are

Speaking of funny ENTP moments, a guy who I strongly suspect is ENTP unironically called me a cuck for not wanting multiple wives, lel
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>>38203919
Clean your room my man.
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>>38205136
>fuck everyone.png
Not very convincing and nice meme picture look see I can do it too

Of course I wouldn't expect a brainlet to get it
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>>38205140
I'm INTJ too. I feel like the rest of humanity and I have a hate-hate relationship.
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>>38205155
>still hasn't claimed he isn't ENxP
>hasn't claimed a type at all
>wants to have sex with INTJs
Anon that's fucking haram there are no INTJ girls only boys
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>>38205140
No, everyone else is an idiot except me unironically. I understand where you're coming from though. I'm too sensitive to hate everyone
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>>38205201
I am ENxP you doofus isn't it obvious? And who's to say I wouldn't fuck a boy INTJ anyway? I do what I want, nigga
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You're all plebians for believing some trashy internet test that's about as reliable as a horoscope. Unless you got a test from your doctor.
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>>38205140
Fellow INTJ here
I constantly find flaws in others personalities, interests, logic, etc. and it just makes me hate them more and more overtime
Just stop talking to people, because eventually you'll see more and more wrong with others, and you'll realize associating with them was just a waste of time
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>>38205220
You sound like an anti-intellectual. Maybe an ISTJ? I dunno. Lighten up old sport
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>>38205229
Wow, what a square. What you gotta realize is that it don't matter, sure everyone has flaws. Whomst even cares? Just talk to people you enjoy the company of
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>>38205216
We'll you didn't say you were!!! Sorry EXCUUUUUSE ME! And I already told you no fucking gayposting I'm the OP you shithead and I'll ban you if you say that or "n(love4allraces)igga" again
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>>38205136
you have been muted because your comment WASNT FUCKING ORIGINAL and now you have to redo the annoying fucking captcha
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>Stuck between ISTP and INTP
>Eternally bored
What the fuck do I do, every day I'm struggling to find some sort of time killer
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>>38205171
I re-took the test just for you.
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>>38205254
My boy, I am the fucking OP. And gayposting is alright. Just no pussy ass anime girls in my thread

Gay is just extra testosterone spreading ffrom man to man. Anime girls are the REAL faggot shit, NIGGA
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INFJ here. Serial cheater. Love relationships but have cheated in all of them. Is this a common thing for INFJs?
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>>38205229
Don't be so close minded fellow INTJ. You probably only think like that because you've been around your peers and your wagecuck job. Other people may have flaws but you don't know what kind of real world experience you can get from them. Plus, you may run into a real intellectual if you're lucky.
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>>38205270
Can we have femdom sex? Please fuck me and talk about my shortcomings as a partner while grinding into my ass with a dragon dildo
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>>38205298
Honestly my dude, neck yourself. Cheating is fucking wrong, and you're so nonchalant and casual about it. What a faggot. Also gtfo my board normalscum
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>>38205277
>calls him self op when I'm op
What kinda 4d chess are you playing?
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>>38205341
I don't believe you.
NEVER trust a Flip Flappers fan.
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>>38205298
Kill yourself normalfag. Apparently not orginak
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>>38205299
>a real intellectual if you're lucky
Call me a faggot, but that would be pretty great
I could deal with someone for a lot longer if they're an intellectual type and not like one of my normie co-workers
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>>38205338
Of course I'm nonchalant and casual about it. INFJs are cold as ice.
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>>38205298
Your gender?
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>>38205341
I'm playing the kinda 4D chess where I win by using intensely focused ideas to metaphysically enter your mind and control you and make you stop being such a nigger
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>>38205353
It's just a reaction image what are you banting about
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>>38205325
I'm sorry anon, I'm not a female and i'm not gay. You'll have to find someone else.
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>>38204987
proud to be a white trump voting ISTP american.
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>>38205374
Straight male. I've never really been in love in any of my relationships. I just entered them hoping the feelings would eventually develop. Never happened.
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>>38205365
Don't worry you aren't a faggot (at least not for wanting to meet someone like that).
As for co workers...you gotta find ways to make the job fun. For instance- I throw things at my coworkers like ketchup packets and ice cubes. Uh idk man
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>>38205365
You just gotta find other intuitives with IQs over 120 who have some sort of knowledge about "intellectual" subjects... so that leaves you with most of the NTs and some NFs, I'd say a good 15% of the population fits your bill
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>>38205379
>enxp
>focused
Nice meme """""op""""" if that is your real name
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>>38203972
Intj here, you sound like me before I saw the burning bush. I even tested intp this one time back then. Keep faith anon
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>INTP
>Spend entire day imagining, comparing experiences and hating myself.
>Be brainlet.
>End up thinking about socialization to the point of becoming phobic of it entirely.
>Deconstruct social practices and eventually find them disgusting.
>Simultaneously know that I'm not above them, as I can't replicate the social behaviors myself.
>Live with constant anxiety and feel uncomfortable around everyone.
>Constantly scanning for the messages in what other people say.
>Spend my entire life questioning if I'm retarded.
>Spend entire life feeling as if it's one big chore.
>Feel shitty, but not shitty enough to go out and make connections again.
>Be 6'4.
>Be relatively good looking.
>Spend my time thinking about how I'm wasting my shot at life's one true endgoal.

Sometimes I think about hanging myself in the forest, but I owe my family too much.
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>>38205384
Can I see a dick pic pweese
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>>38205413
>throw things at people
Hahaha I love doing this

I like to wad up paper towels and soak them in the sink then throw em into toilet stalls where people are shitting, I only do it to my friends tho but it would be funnier to do it to some random... lmao
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>>38205413
>I throw things at my coworkers like ketchup packets and ice cubes
Devilish, anon
They always act like that to each other, maybe I'll join in one day
>>38205419
I'll try and meet some if I ever have time to make it out of the house
Know any place I could meet people like this?
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>>38203986
Patience is a virtue anon. Stay true to the path.
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>>38205438
No, my dick is small, and because of that I'm too insecure to post a picture of it.
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>>38205428
Yeah but in the end the truth is that I am OP and you are not, so I win, just by the laws of facts n shit. What type are you? Probably the faggot type hahaha

>>38205431
Just put your efforts into mimicking social responses and literally "bee urself" and maybe see a therapist for social anxiety and get on with it

>>38205438
Fag lol
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>>38205443
>off by one
Kek that's pretty funny too. See? You can do it. Here I show you some screenshots of when I messed with my coworker who is a black girl close to my age. It's a good example of having fun at work
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>>38205457
Awww you post so qt anon. And thanks I try
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>>38205457
>know any place
Only place I can think of is 4chan, you just gotta search. Maybe join some smart people clubs or go to the bar and start striking up conversations with random people about random things, idk

Literal jus bee ursself my dude
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>>38205465
Jerk it up erect for me
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>>38205054
Please calm down my fool hardy nigga you're emparesing the rest of us entps
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>>38205481
>he's mass replying now
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>>38205481
I'm not a faggot I'm a qt boi
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>>38204738
Aldous Huxley's Brave New World is an intj bible
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>>38205155
Your entire personality is a god damn train wreck and makes me ashamed to call myself a entp please please please neck yourself
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>>38205509
It's weird knowing that the "bee ursalf :D" meme actually applies here, thanks anon
>>38205505
>Awww you post so qt anon
Thank you vm kindanon
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>>38205487
Yeah yeah yea but I'm not the INTJ so of course I can do it, I'm a glorious ENxP

Also
>Adrian
>girl name
Lol. I once knew a chubby black dude named Adrian and I gave him a vanilla protein shake cause he was hungry and he said it tasted like cum. So I asked him how he knew what cum tastes like

Today my ISTP friend shat blood, so I made fun of him for that. He posited that perhaps he had swallowed something that tore up his anus, so I had to jump on that opportunity to bully him. I told him he swallowed black people cum and got aids and thus shat blood. Then he jokingly told me to leave so I did and I went into the forest

Anyway the point of that story is that I have to pee and that I can never focus long enough to write a story or invent the water invention idea I have to save Africa
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>>38205535
Huxley was enfp m8
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>>38205518
even erect its small, its like 3in erect and 1in flaccid. I'm not posting a picture of it.
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>>38205552
Hahahah, touche my boy, and neck YOUR self too... ;)
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>>38205570
Yeah, not what I meant. The ideas are genius. Enough perspective to rationalize and reconcile an INTJ's nature
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>>38205535
I read that book back when i was just a boi, I thought it was nice. Ya know, the system they had in place wasn't all THAT bad....
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>>38205570
>>38205596
INTJs are the Controllers. Close to the Savage, but he's too emotional.
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>>38205565
YEah you see you can mock people's names too?
>Dona
Should be spelled "Donna"
>adallis (super autistic name)
Should be "Adallas"
And
>Hilary
Should be Hillary.
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>>38205595
You can't expect your absolutely brilliant and original idea of random equals smart and funny to fool anyone but a beta cuck inxx. Your shit doesn't work in the real world you spastic bastard
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>>38205521
>>38205531
Honestly my zydeco, you're pretty funny. I like you and your humor. You are a qt boy. But still. No fag shit here. Post discord if you wanna talk fag shit
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>>38205559
Uh lemme think...all my friends that are intellectual I met in school. As an INTJ myself, find solace in solitude. Don't make it out like you're better off being alone but just be content to be with yourself. When you meet another person, intelligent or not just keep an open mind. People that have emotional problems, are nerds or are virgins are intellectuals in our society.
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>>38205612
Being a part of that system is a cogniscent omission of power in favor of an exclusively hedonistic lifestyle. I'm too empirical to be satisfied with it, regardless of how glamorous Huxley makes it often throughout the book. Being part of a herd is gross to me, really

I wouldn't even be on 4chan if it weren't for the whole "Anonymous" gig. You can be nobody here.
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>>38205634
I don't get the point dude, I'm jus sayin

>>38205643
Of course it doesn't work in the real world that's why I don't act like this in the real world dum dum.

I am just bored and this is fun to me and i don't care what you think
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>>38205581
What about your boy butt?
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>>38205596
intj here. when young find that kind of world pretty nice if it worked, later when grow up and mature i realized what was huxley saying with the MUH FREE WILL thing and agreed that is not a pretty nice world
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>>38205649
Thank anon. However, I don't believe in discord it interrupts my mental flow. She really is named "adrian"
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>>38205676
If you don't care about my very poor opinion of you then why did you feel the need to let me know that you didn't? That's the real question right there
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Every time I take the tests I always get INTP but I don't really feel like an INTP.

>I'm good at making sensible long-term plans to achieve objectives and sticking with the plan
>though I value rationality I acknowledge and utilize the power of emotion when it comes to basic human interaction
>most people I encounter are emotional beasts so I channel the emotions that I feel at fleeting moments into interactions with others.

>>38204108
I don't really understand this mindset. You don't need to be a genius, you just need to look at the small intricacies that drive society and find a niche there that you'd like to exploit. Fascinating as the large questions are they're not yours alone to ask or seek the answer to. Focus instead on facilitating those questions being answered and accept that it won't all happen at once.
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>>38205680
I'm sorry, but I'm not gay.
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>>38205676
I'm sayin is that even though you may hate other humans (as an intj) you can still make work fun.
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>>38205570
>Aldous Huxley was enfp
>Hunter S. Thomson was enfp
>Kurt Vonnegut was enfp

Why are all the most BASED writers enfp?
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>>38205665
>one off

I like it because well, it works. Whatever caste you're born into, you're programmed to be happy with. No strife or discontentment. Just people doing their jobs and helping society flow smoothly. Sure, I personally don't like being part of the herd, but if I were born to a lower caste, I wouldn't mind, and if I were born to a higher caste, I'd have the power to separate myself from the rest of the pack. Life is meaningless anyway so let's just COMF IT UP NIGGUH
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>>38205706
I'm uh I'm a girl. Please I wanna see
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>>38205691
Yes. We need the freedom to be men; the violent, inquisitive, violently ambitious creatures that are power hungry and uber aggressive. Without that the INTJ might as well kill themselves. Dominance is the key, I find.
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>>38205618
Controllers? Savage? What's this?
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>>38205696
>>38205710
Right right, I see. I enjoy making fun of names too. Like, I see a skinny guy named Johnathan? Now he's John-a-thin. A twinky Indian named Keshav? He's Gay-shav now. Etc etc. I like your style. You should post discord

>>38205700
Good point you're right

>>38205711
Because ENFP are fuckin SMART. But more realistically since you're an INTJ and your ideal type is ENFP, you just naturally gravitate towards ENFP writers
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>>38205754
>freedom to be men
>notorious low t type
Well idk how much my fellow INTJs agree on that but I'd replace "men" with freedom to be whomever you want so long as it's not hurting anyone
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>>38205663
I'll try to be more open towards people
Thank you, anon
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>>38205790
>idk how much my fellow INTJs agree on that but I'd replace "men" with freedom to be whomever you want so long as it's not hurting anyone

trannies need to be gassed
t. INTJ
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>>38205805
There's no reason to gas trannies though other than "muh they're gross" or "muh biology" or "muh they're destroying society" which are all bullshit reasons
>t. ENxP
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>>38205780
Wow anon you're so funny! The Indian one was esp clever
Making a discord nao
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>>38205805
No I agree I hate them too! But it's wrong to hurt other people just because they're mentally ill. They need help. They need treatment
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entp here
I am always fucking bored
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>>38205760
Spoilers.
You should read the book, it's light reading with gems left and right. Essentially, Huxley wrote a genetically engineered "utopia" in which men and women are groomed specifically into different caste systems and programmed into very specific behaviors to maintain the utopia. Seeing as nature is God and man is imperfect, utopia is impossible; so naturally, there are leaks. Every once in a while there's a mistake in the genetic engineering lab, a person gets stranded in the middle of nowhere and meets long lost natives, a worker gets too much time alone to start thinking about their own existence, etc.

Huxley uses this premise to present a child that's born in the wild in some village of savages at a nature reserve outside of the society. Born to a woman of the brainwashed masses that was lost on a expedition, he is raised without the norma conditioning/brainwashing and instead learns from the village people, until he discovers a book containing the complete works of shakespeare. Yadda yadda, he becomes a shut-in perma virgin and manages to get to the "utopia", realizes everyone's shitty and is then secured by the "Controllers"-- the geniuses that make sure the society runs-- paralleled to the Savage, they were too smart and too curious to be a mindless hedonistic puppet. They're very, very compelling archetypes.
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>>38205803
No prob anon, I really hope you can give others a chance because you might just miss a keeper. Not only that but I at least hope what I said can help you with coworkers. Btw libraries are good just go during school hours (no underage during school hours) and I'm sure you'll find someone smart enough irl.
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>>38205887
>they need treatment
This is true my negroes. The only way to actually get rid of gender dysphoria is through transitioning. And it's not like it actually does anyone else any damage

>>38205896
Just do what I do and troll some niggas. Or make fun of normies irl. Idk. Invent ssomething if you aren't too lazy
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>>38205912
Hmmmm. I read a book in school like that once...doesn't he kill himself at the end?
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ISTP here
What do i do with my life?
I spend all day making excuses for myself and not doing anything
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>>38205935
Whoa whoa whoa anon that's not what I meant. These people need medical treatment! They need to be put into a facility to help them! Not give into their horrible demands!
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>>38205935
do you sometimes have some sleepines rolling on you? I have slept 10 hours today and after 6 I am already sleepy
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>>38205939
Yes

>>38205946
Find an ESTJ gf to give you orders. Or just do whatever seems fun
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>>38205912
>>38205760
I think the most critical part of it all is the choice offered to the people that wake up. They can either become one of the Controllers and have access to all of the world's censored material and knowledge in return for mindful, lavish servitude, or they can go into exile with all of the other dissatisfied statistical inevitabilities.

Think Zion in the Matrix series. Zion only exists because culling 100% of humanity into a perfect utopia is impossible. People inevitably escape, hence the main reason for Zion's, and the One's, existence.
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>>38205953
You gunna make a discord or what? And putting them into a facility isn't gonna stop them from being trannies, they'll just repress it and commit suicide. The only solution is killing them or letting them transition and I dislike killing and traps are qt so let em be

>>38205957
Yeah, sleepy as fuck during the day and now I'm roaring with energy at 3:48 am!
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MBTI is fucking stupid and i fucking hate all of you faggots

...im intp i just want a gf
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>>38205953
>tfw one day we'll be able to accurately isolate and destroy the flawed genes that lead to gender dysphoria

It's strange. I had a dream once where there were no gays or trannies or drug addicts as the genetic dispositions within people that led to these afflictions was eradicated.
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>>38205991
Actually MBTI makes a lot of sense and is fun so you are the one who is a faggot, in factitude
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>>38205990
how much do you sleep and when do you go to sleep? do you have a schedule or nah
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>>38206028
Yeah yeah we can do that but then what? You ever see the movie gattaca? Then it's a highway to genetic slavery and other bad shiet that I don't care to spell out
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>>38205990
>traps are qt
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>>38206032
I go to bed at 5 am usually and wake up around 1 pm. I'm off ffrom school cause it's summer so my schedule's all fucked. When class is in session then I usually go to bed around 1-3 am and wake up around 7ish
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>>38206063
and how is your energy then? When I was a school I had a shit ton of energy, but now in university I am strugling
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>>38206046
An ideal society gets created. Everyone would get built up to the point where they can reach their true potential and humanity will have a decent chance of surviving in the long-run.
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>>38205961
Ah I see then I read it. Not enough info on the caste system but I liked it
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>>38206073
in school*
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>>38205990
https://discord.me/944251776

Uh try this
The psychology science is overrun with Jews man obvs they won't help
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>>38206031
I didn't give you permission to reply to me faggot
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>>38206073
I am fueled by shittons of caffeine. By school I meant uni, energy is always shit too but... coffee man, coffee

>>38206074
That's what would happen ideally but we both know the people on top would just exploit the power of manipulating the gene pool before it can be used for positive purposes
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>>38206028
Man that sounds perfect! I will feel a bit bad about it but if we give them a good incentive to stop breeding maybe it won't be so bad
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>>38206091
Says it doesn't work, just make a server and post the access code or post your user ID
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>>38206124
Yeah I see. Is there a way to do it without the app?
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>>38206105
thanks for the answers entp-bro
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>tfw intp black boi
>tfw 5'8
>tfw beating my meat to futa since 6th grade
>tfw just came out a few weeks ago to my friends because they've been calling me gay for the longest and I think they saw my history

I'm gonna trip with them on shrooms this Sunday despite all this shit happing and me wanting to off myself for a while I feel bretty good even started a journal for my thoughts
>tfw first time posting since forever
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>>38206154
I'm proud of you dude, keep a good mindset and stay healthy going into the trip, listen to chill music and don't think about anything negative and prepare to be get woke
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>>38206154
your name starts with an S
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>>38206163
>be 19 yo boy
>still living with mummy n daddy
>tfw downloading an app downloads to their phone
>tfw "no chat rooms ever anon"
>can't download anything out of fear
>mfw anon thinks I'm being autistic
Sorry :((((((((
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im an infp; i used to be very creative and was passionate about the arts (visual arts, singing, poetry, etc.) until i fell into a deep depression. now, im trying medication with no therapy, because there are no good therapists in my area. the meds so far make me only very slightly better (lexapro 20 mg), but my doctor just doesnt understand me. however, im working on learning ukulele and singing again.
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>>38206182
Thanks man I really appreciate it I'm gonna definitely listen to some post-rock and some other shit to get that nostalgia going hopefully coming into this will make me feel a sense of happiness but also makes me question who I am
>>38206195
A ;)
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>>38206278
Try to not listen to anything too harsh, it could aggravate you, just chill stuff. Lyrics are also important, positive stuff not negative stuff

Good luck man, wish you the best!
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>>38206262
Trust me you'll have to talk to someone about what it is that made you feel that way doesn't even have to be a therapist and if you don't have anyone to talk to I'll be in this thread for a while
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>>38204403
You INTJs are so cute.
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Took the test, got this yellow dude who calls himself an "entrepeneur"

What does all this mean?

Do I need to start my own company?
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>MBTI
Horoscopes for men and less gulable women
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Any other INFJs thinking on the concept of morality?

The more I think about it being subjective, the more it bothers me, the more I think about it. I considered telling the cheating INFJ in this thread to neck themselves, but I figured it wouldn't amount to anything. If he doesn't care by default, he has no real reason to uphold morals.

I typed out a long post for my own sake, then deleted it. I can't make him care. Is morality more important, or freedom? Morality exists as a concept to be enforced on groups of people, to maintain long-term stability and order, nothing more. It inherently conflicts with freedom, to stop caring is to be free. We care about people because we're supposed to, and take offence to outliers who do not, despite the fact they can't help this fact.

Doesn't mean I want to like the guy. I really want to beat him up, honestly. Because I think of my reaction like the output of a machine, I do nothing. I keep rationalising my way to inaction, with more things than just this.

I feel pretentious. My head hurts. I hate Ti.
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>>38206678
I believe in karma. So, if you beat me up, we can say that I have been appropriately punished and I can go back to cheating with a clear conscience since my spiritual debt has been cleared. Deal?
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bumping this bread before it dies
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Any INFP or Fe doms could comment on this?
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>>38204245
not that anon,
but i have no goals. and no interest in working towards something. what is your reccomendation for my situation?
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Intj master rice here
God why is everyone so goddamn incompetent you need to explain dont just fycking read during reports my goodness. And you fucking wonder why i get 97 while u and your "squad" "familia" only get 76 get a grip you stupid fucking niggers
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>>38207226
INFJ here, its correct
the conflict comes from Fi users respect for inner peace, meaning following your own feelings, staying true to your characters no matter what
while Fe users only care about external harmony, that the mood of a situation is positive and no one is causing trouble
therefor Fe users are seen as fake for being considerate while Fi users are seen as selfish for being authentic

as always moderation is the golden road to follow through life
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>>38206760
I can't exactly do that over the internet, can I, Anon? Besides, I see the point of punishment to prevent wrongdoing, not enable it. The punishment itself isn't the point.

Even then, I only want to beat you up for my own satisfaction, so you could call it selfish in itself.
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>>38207405
>Fe users only care about external harmony, that the mood of a situation is positive and no one is causing trouble
Are you one of them?
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>>38207332
A 97 and a 76 on what? I'm curious as to what you're ranting about.
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>>38207226
I might be slightly bothered by the top, but not significantly, especially if there's no ill intent in mind.

I relate to the bottom one quite a lot.

>t. INFJ
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>>38207432
No I just walk away, there is too much shit in this world for me to fix
its easier to change yourself than others
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>>38206519
ESTP, right? Do what you want, this stuff is descriptive, not prescriptive. It's just a curiosity. "Entrepreneur" isn't the official name, just 16memes at it again.

If you're interested, though, I'd read from multiple sources. 16memes gives every type an overly positive description.

ESTP is a Chad personality. If you found yourself here, you must have really went wrong somewhere. Alternatively, you can't self-assess well.
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>>38207490
>there is too much shit in this world for me to fix
What would you want to fix if you'd have a power to do so?
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>>38207502
>16memes gives every type an overly positive description
Do a big 5 test one if you want really negative and realistic description.
>http://similarminds.com/bigfive.html
You can also check if there's a correlation between it and MBTI type.
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Fallen infp, in other words neet fembot, but it will get better, at least I stopped overusing my Fe for cheap feelz.
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>>38207504
le sigh, nothing, everything is fine

Im the problem, Im not fit to this world
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>>38207535
>infp
>Fe
INFP has Fi Ne Si Te cognitive functions, INFJ has Ni Fe Ti Se ones. You probably meant INFJ.
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>>38207559
>Im not fit to this world
How do you perceive this world?
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>>38203919
INTP here same thing
>never plan
>fuck up but turns out good in the end
>since im very handsome everyone puts up with my autism
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>>38207572
are you an INTP? I dont have the energy to explain everything right now
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>>38207619
>are you an INTP?
I have no idea what type am i.
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>>38207618
>>since im very handsome everyone puts up with my autism

be careful ma man i was in ur boat then i became fat
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>>38207226
>tfw have high Fi and high Fe
>I want to maintain moral integrity and be consistent with my beliefs
>but most of those beliefs center around interpersonal stuff, ie the way I treat others
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>>38203373
>intp
>have friends and gf
>not socially autistic actually people want to talk to me
am i ENTP?
whats the diffrence between ENTP and INTP
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>>38207652
Well keep reading about the functions, Im burned out with Ne users since I have to explain everything and I dont have energy for that right now.
>>38207693
This is Fi, the Fi values can be anything and can make you act similarly to how a Fe user would but the telling sign is that these are very much internal values, its something you have to be like, for yourself
Fe users really dont have similar clear image for ourselves, I personally have hard time to trust myself when it comes to feelings and often feel like I have no true personality, its too adaptable to fit whoever I am talking to to feel authentic.
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>>38207226
INTP and I fucking hate when Fi-ggots do the bottom. Oh yeah, we'll just stop the entire show for you. No big deal. It's not like you wanted to hang out with us anyway, right? That's what I thought, asshole.
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>>38207697
To put simply the difference between E and I. How does being social feel to you? Is it draining or a chore?
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>>38207697
>whats the diffrence between ENTP and INTP
ENTPs want to make use of their ideas, change the world, interact with it, while INTPs are fine with just the theory side and have no urge to actually put them into practice
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Hi I'm ENTP wanna chat?
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>>38207738
>INFJ
>intimate one-on-one talks are rejuvenating for about 2-3 hours, then I need alone time to restore myself
>large groups can also energize me for a time, an hour or two
>alone time never drains me no matter how long
>social situations drain me 10x faster when there isn't group harmony
>not sure if true introvert since talking to people can energize me for a while, until I hit a certain point and get drained
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https://strawpoll.com/b8wxc5r
Vote for your type and gender
So far the most popular male type rankings are
INTP (93)
INTJ (59)
INFP (31)
>Female ones
INFP (14)
INTP (12)
ENFP (7)
The only "missing" type from males are : ESFJ and ENFJ.
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>>38207806
INFJs are the most extroverted introverts, since we are dependent to other people and cant really entertain ourselves, or find motivation for anything without other people it creates this love/hate relationship with other people, we keep wanting for more but too much and we get drained, frustrated and disappointed.
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>>38207830
>INFJs are the most extroverted introverts
Nah, ISFP and ISFJ are way more "extroverted" than INFJ.
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>>38207560
In socionics I'm infp, because of folowing cognitive functions Ni Fe associated with this type. so if in mbti it's infj that has Ni Fe in ego block, I'm that.
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>>38207840
INFJs being intuitive over sensing means they focus more on ideas than activities, ideas focused on other people create a bigger need for socializing than activities, where you naturally do more and talk less.
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>>38207843
so INFJ type 4 enneagram? Its the most common type for INFJs and its the individualist one who has problems with their ego
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>>38203373
>Tfw ENTP

Pretty accurate. Is everyone else this scatterbrained?
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>>38207857
>ideas focused on other people create a bigger need for socializing than activities
Most of INFJ are not really that extroverted, they usually daydream or avoid people as they influence mind too much.
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>>38207944
Well practice and theory rarely meet, so yes, while in practice the sensory types probably do more socializing in theory the intuitive ones are more interested in sharing and learning ideas.
And since MBTI is a theory, what is true theoretically is more important than what happens in practice (as long as we understand what causes the difference)
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Are INFPs supposed to be intelligent?
Im an INFP with a 115 iq and I legitimately think i might be retarded sometimes. Some of my coworkers even think their might be something wrong with me because I fuck up the simplest shit.

Either im retarded or I have autism
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>>38208017
>because I fuck up the simplest shit
You might just be clumsy and awkward which isnt related to autism or intelligence,
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>>38208017
It's common for INFPs to underestimate themselves due to general anxiety over being able to do simple shit.
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>>38208017
INFP is third on average intelligence after INTP and INTJ, after INFP comes INFJ and then ENTP
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>>38207688
i work out and im natuarly skinny
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>>38207738
its cool i was lonley before now its great does this make me entp
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>>38204367
No that's INTJs
>>38204359
Stop bullying us
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>>38207789
yes do tell about your life mate :)
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>>38207869
I'm not that much into enneagram, it seems like a less developed system in comparision to socionics, but I'd classify myself as 4w5 or 5w4.

For INTp default enneagram type seems to be 5.
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>>38204359
>fake
We're not sure who we are or if "who" "we" "are" even has any meaning.
>pretentious
Unhealthy INTPs can be pretentious but that's not a trait we generally have. If we feel we know something about a given topic we enjoy teaching people about it.
>worthless
You're not wrong about that.
>selfish
We want what's best for you but if possible we'd ultimately like to be left alone.

>>38204367
Again, unhealthy INTP trait. That, or you tend to feel threatened by people who know more than you do about any given topic, in which case I'd advise you to stop being so afraid that you're the one who doesn't know anything.
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>ESTP
I dont belong here
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>>38205920
>you might miss a keeper
reminds me of this originoIio
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>>38208229
>I dont belong here
You sure dont as you probably came here from r/4chan.
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>>38208237
>keeper
They dont want nice guys tho.
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>>38208245
/o/ and /mlp/
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>>38208290
>/mlp/
Ironically or unironically?
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>>38208287
did i save this image or this image save me?
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>>38208325
i dont even know anymore

>You have been muted for 2 seconds, because your comment was not original.
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>tfw INTP
>too lazy to do anything productive
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>>38209089
>>too lazy to do anything productive
Arent we all?
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>>38209089
>>38209272
Define productive please

Is taking a shit not productive?
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>>38209089
>tfw INTP
>probably too late to another thread
>gallons of passion and knowledge about the arts that I want to spill on some gf
>it's another, make art alone and slowly watch my body fall apart day.
>tfw I have about 10 hobbies and I can't find people with 1.
>tfw when I see a beautiful girl in the street I just chuckle to myself as I try and speed up the tangents of possibilities in my head.
>tfw I think I've royally fucked myself.
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>>38207502
ESTPs should have the easiest time getting laid.
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What is the most based type and why is it the ENFP?
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>>38209272
Yes, but INTPs are meant to be ~le smarts, so being lazy is wasted potential
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>>38209339
>based
>enfp
they're normies.
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>>38209310
>tfw INTP
>tfw 10/10 handsome model looks
>gf
>3-4 girls that i know want to be with me maybe even more
>since im INTP i have a lot of intrests and that intrests girls
>10+ friends they all like me because of le funny autistic guy
>they protect me because i often act childish
>they also tell me im much older for my years
>20 but gf is 30 a lot of friends who are 25+ some even 40
>life is good as an intp
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>>38205711
Socially they are able to be characterful whilst also provide a legitimately "sound" retelling.
Look at basically any documentarian etc.
>I guess
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>>38203373
why is most of r9k INTP
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>>38209354
>>tfw 10/10 handsome model looks
>>life is good as an intp
Geez I wonder why
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>>38209364
because INTPs are emotionally still children.

I've never seen an INTP who was emotionally mature.

Nobody wants to date or fuck a child. Exception, you are hot, in which case it doesn't really matter.
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>>38209354
Guy you replied to,
How do you meet people?
How the fuck did you manage to get people to hang around long enough.
Girls think I'm really mysterious and uniquely interesting but that's only after I've known them for about half a year, now I'm not at university, life is much tougher.
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>>38204359
nice spooks nerd ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahha
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>>38209387
>Girls think I'm really mysterious and uniquely interesting
He fell for the if I'm mysterious enough I'll get laid meme
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>>38209375
You're thinking of know-it-all INTJ's.
No INTP would ever realistically be argumentative enough to tell you that.
Maybe on 4chan, but certainly not in real life.
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>>38209405
They find me mysterious, I never intend it.
Usually because they have a hard time "speaking my language". I usually initiate conversations by making slightly interruptible off-kilter autistic observations or talking about art straight off.
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What a wonderful day to be a fluffy INFP
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>>38209387
clubs and uni
you want real advice go to youtube and watch rsd
(real social dynamics) people on r9k think its stupid pick up shit
but its not its much more than that it will change your life
if you want to change your life go and watch those videos
>>38209405
this works but only if you have something in you after that mysterious shit
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Why do attract so many INFPs?
t. INTP
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>>38209387
>gallons of passion and knowledge about the arts that I want to spill on some gf
>it's another, make art alone and slowly watch my body fall apart day.
>tfw I have about 10 hobbies and I can't find people with 1.
oh i forgot about this if you have hobbies join some groups in your city
especially art there are a lot of alternative "hipster girls" there
what hobbies do you do senpai? mind telling
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>>38209366
well the point is looks really dont matter
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>>38209483
>>38209502
hope this helps and good luck
feel free to ask more
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>>38209408
Are you INTP? Because you don't TELL someone that you're emotionally immature. They can tell.
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>>38209484
*Why do i
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>>38209502
>>38209483
Thanks for the rep.
Guitar, piano, drawing, writing, reading, mixing, record collecting, running, occasional photography, golf, fashion (to a point).
Just off the top of my head.
Nice, to see that you can be INTP and credible though.
How do you approach at these clubs?
Doesn't help that I live in a small town.
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me am infp giv gf
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>>38209576
thats fucking great hobbies my man but yes small town limits you a lot but still
literally only approach you need to know is
hi im (your name) thats all lol
rave partys techno house is best but be aware a lot of people only talk to you because they are on drugs they are not your real friends but its better than nonething
if you can move to a larger city
and seriously watch rsd please
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>>38203373
ENTP
That is 100% accurate
All it's missing is
>Arguments against things that don't affect me
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Only recently got introduced to mbti test. What's wrong with sensors?
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>>38207433
We had to do a report. Thse 3 blacks had no group mates so i reluctantly invited them to my group (whuch is just me alone)
I carefully explained my part of the report while they only read the study materials i gave them. The professor graded the report, gave me 97 while jamals inly got 76 (75 is the passing grade) abd now they mad at me for "leaving them out" "only getting the good parts myself"
I am fine with dumb people as long as they are willing to fix their wrongs, but i absolutely hate people that blame others for their incompetence. Bed england
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>>38209089
same
used to be an autodidact STEM whore and basically a genius but i let my scatterbrained impulses dominate and now i'm a musician with no hope for the future but god damn can i play a fucking piano
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>>38203373
Just finished Far Harbor for the first time, easily the most fun I've had in Fallout 4

Is DiMA the archetypal narcissistic INFJ bros?
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>>38203919
ENTP here, basically do the same thing, even if I force myself to start early, I don't put in 100% until the last few minutes

Introverted thinking is a meme function
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>>38204012
>implying E means normie
>implying E means socially skilled
>implying you can't be an E type and introvert at the same time
>implying you can't be an I type and be an extrovert at the same time

I want m(eme)bti losers to leave my board forever.
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>>38204403
ENTJ>INTJ any day.
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ENTJ. Based on my life and how I act, I'd say it's completely accurate. I have made impressive things happen in my life from sheer will power alone. I also feel like a sociopath, but not in an edgy way. I just feel myself manipulating people, and trying to justify it sometimes.
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This shit doesn't define your life. Stop giving a crap about it. It's marginally more accurate than your horoscope and not something you should obsess over.
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Intj gommenasai
I feel like a master manipulator. I framed a faggot in stealing a classmates ipad. Basically i stole the ipad myself, shoved it on his locker (most people never realized, but it was possible to open my schools locker with just the small blade in a swiss knife) and to the principal office he went. That was 5 years ago, i still masturbate to the memory.
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>>38203766

>also intp
>ocd
>anxiety
>feel like an alien
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Think this sums up INTP's pretty well.
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INTP here. So is this why I have crippling OCD and GAD? Is it the reason all my girlfriend's have said I'm emotionally distant and I don't care enough?
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ILI here.

Socionics > MBTI
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Really, socionics has more substance to it. You should check it out if you are into MBTI.
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>>38204265
>didn't smoke until I was 18
>now 20 smoke pretty often
>just picked up the guitar about a year and a half ago
>can play some shit currently working on being able to play 20 minutes of Jimmy Page solos for muscle memory and finger strength
>used to draw nonstop as a kid can still draw but haven't had time to too busy with music
>can also rap and spit some siqqq bars
INFPs are jacks of all trades. Something about music through really attracts us.
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>>38209732
If you're reading this (your name) bro
Thanks.
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Pls someone discuss socionics with me
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>>38205095
What the fuck? Did we get another wave or something? I keep seeing assholes posting carlos with no joke. It's really wearing me thin.
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>>38210865
yo no problem cheers and good luck
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>>38207226
Yes I'm both commentators in my head say nothing and just go with the flow
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>>38205230
>tfw ISTJ but not hard-working at all
Where the fuck does that put me?
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>>38209310
>>38209994
Holy shit I love that you two exist I am the EXACT same way. Tripped and fell into songwriting/guitar playing/digital art making/producing virtuosity while doing STEM at university and now I'm so consumed by the passion that I terrify myself. I feel like it's burning me alive. Broke up with my ex because of it, and I KNOW that there's no hope for another gf unless I make a substantial living off of it, but there's hope I think

t. INTJ
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>Your type
>Favorite song
Let's see if there's some correlation.
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What' s the best match for a intp male?
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>>38211332
INTP
Don't have one.
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>>38203373
>just smile and say yes so they don't realise you're not listening
accidentally told my coworkers I love cocks, white supremacy, and nickleback today desu
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>>38207332
Hahaha nice autistic rant fellow INTJ! I bet we account for like 45% of shitposts and thread kills. And in school I was the exact same way- by myself I out performed the brainlets.
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>>38211349
>Don't have one.
Not even favorite ones?
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>>38211384
No. I just listen to whatever I feel like at the moment and there's no way I could make any sort of list of favourites out of them.
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>>38211332
>ISTJ / ENTP (different results on different sites)
>probably "Halleluwah" by Can as my all-time favorite
>"Frittering" by Mercury Rev as current favorite
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>>38211294
lmao wtf, we're not alone. it's comforting to read that but i'm a bit worried about us anon. currently i'm at a minimum wagecuck job and i don't even care because i get to spend money on my instruments and create music when i'm not working. i would like to fucking make money doing this but the drive to create is stronger than anything i've ever felt and will probably ever feel. what are you plans man? have you been busking? are you gonna release digital albums? play in bars? start a band or something?
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>>38211332
INTJ
I have so many but I think the two most captivating right now are "Truth" by Alexander (https://youtu.be/N_atFMCUJ1o) and this remix of "Iron" by Woodkid (https://youtu.be/D3JOdAeFLHI). Combined they represent the values that I want to embody and exude, not to mention replicate in my art and overall life

>war and dominance
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>>38211332
>INFP
>Drain You - Nirvana
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>>38211431
>INTJ
>war and dominance
sasuga
>>
INFJ here

who else /superior/?
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>>38211381
>I bet we account for like 45% of shitposts and thread kills
>thread kills
I'm glad somebody said it
I'm a fuckin conversation killer
I'll go on a huge rant to prove my point and never get a text back/reply/thread dies. Shit makes me even more reclusive tbqhwu familia

t. INTJ
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>>38211332
>ENTJ
>Hold my Liquor - Kanye West and After the Flood - Talk Talk
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>>38208237
That guy looks autistic :(
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>>38211332
>ISTP
>Heartbreak (Kanye), Spread Eagle Across The Block (Death Grips)
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INFP
Elliot Smith- everything means nothing to me
The Smiths- I know it's over
On the might of princes- for meg
Radiohead- fake plastic trees
Pink floyd- pigs (three different ones)
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>>38211552
fuck, meant heartless
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>>38211477
Here's your (You) ily
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>>38211332
>infp
>unwound - kantina
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>>38211332
INTP
Well, at the moment, Tried So Hard - TFBB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXTgV-V3xBA&spfreload=10
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>>38211419
Wewwww it's a long story, so the abridged version is I ducked five different wagecuck jobs in the past year after deciding to take a year off from uni when I was only 20 credits short of graduating. I was purposely failing all my classes that semester because I wanted to focus on my studio work-- over the course of uni my new songs were building me a network + opportunities to the point where my uni paid for my first studio project + i was playing shows left n right + became a huge part of the music scene, so by my senior yr i was approached by a bunch of diff people and found myself writing/recording/producing three-four different studio projects. Coincided with my parent's insane divorce so I burnt myself alive doing it, esp since the music felt so disingenuous and wasn't fun to play live.

Since they have a big isolated house in the middle of these rich people woods that's basically considered a nature reserve I decided to take a year+ off to sit and write and help with the maintenance of it until they finally sell. Had a gf for the first 9 months of it that'd just come over and fukk like 6 days a week but eventually we broke up + I started writing better and more than i ever have. Now I'm just biding my time, still writing a fuckton, waitin to return to the world. Pretty much stranded here since my car exploded last year driving to a news station for a performance

I feel ur job vibe man. I was watchin a Basquiat doc tho and ik it's the privilege speakin but your art goes someplace when you're willing to die for it + take it all the way...every hour you spend doing something else there's some single-minded kid that's your competition that's gaining ground on you imo, so that terrifies me into my persistent zealotry

As long as you don't mind working though. I'm quite aware of how this privilege blinds me, getting back to the real world as an adult is going to be pretty terrible. plunged myself into (minor) debt for this

Stay true to the drive, anon.
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>>38211332
INTP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BONcpuDcrc
>>
Reminder INTP is shit tier and ENTP is true master race
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>>38211728
>always score right in the middle of INTP/ENTP
Where is your God now?
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>>38211577
:') ily too anon
Day made
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>>38211750
Damn dude are you me
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>>38211776
Hugs for anon!

Original thx
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>>38211332
INTJ, when growing up I was obsessed with this song.

https://youtu.be/jDGUvMBQg1c

Felt so savage.

>>38211708
I like this a lot anon. Good video too.
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Why do INFJs have a reputation for being grudge holders?
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>>38210706
LII-Ne here, this guy gets it.
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>>38210953
Sorry m8 his face was perfect for that
>>38211477
Kek I know us so well ;)
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>>38205298
>>38205396
INFJ, I know the feel when you commit yourself to a relationship hoping feelings will develop but they don't. But that's not a reason to cheat on someone. If you don't have the balls to end it with the other person, you're a little bitch. On one hand I understand your pain but on the other I despise your solution to the problem. Rethink your ways anon.
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>>38212506
IQJPTGMN here, you're right, also fuck MBTI types.
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>>38203373
Is this the goat of sloan types?
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>>38206678
Morality may be binding humanity's hands but morals are what makes us human. You can't cultivate good culture and manners without morals. I have been wallowing in depression and nihilism so much that I supressed my Fe and became borderline INTJ. A few months ago I realized I'll never be happy trying to change things outside of the system, so I decided to act by my own moral code, and try to make the world a better place. I don't know why but a Matrix comparison comes to mind. Instead of trying to disconnect from the network and change the world that way I decided to work from the inside, living by the rules.
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>>38203911
best introverted intuitive type.
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>>38204012
honestly (im an I) in theory E's could have it so much worse than I's if they are socially awkward are anxious. they desire human interaction so much more yet can't get it due to interpersonal skills.
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>>38204073
>intp
>lists iq as if it means anything
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>>38204108
>intp
>blackpill
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>>38211332
>INTP
Reminder we're all puppets in the Court of the Crimson King.

I Talk to the Wind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJa5sxlvsVg)
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>>38204265
i am infp and i dont smoke weed i dont want this stereotype put upon me sorry
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>>38204359
i tend to not like intps either but telling them to kill themselves is mean and too far they have room to grow and improve. telling anyone to kill themselves just for their myers briggs type is dumb. nobody is worthless
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>>38211332
ESTJ reporting in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNcRqKP-N9c
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>>38213215
>ESTJ
whoa, it's rare to see one here. Are you really that bossy and controlling?
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>>38213215
Do you want to dominate a qt intj boi?
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>>38205191
i am part of humanity and i dont hate intjs so it's a one way hate what the heck dude what did i do to you
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>>38213232
Sometimes but I'm not very outspoken about it as some others. I try to be flexible though
>>38213254
Nah m8 traps aren't my thing.
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>>38205298
infjs are supposed to be good people who care about others
no it's not a common thing
please consider how your actions effect others and dont be this way
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>>38205396
cheaters get out >:(
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>>38207226
heck yeah jeez apparently having self control to not be a jerk and be considerate of others makes you fake
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>>38207405
could another way to word this be is fi care about how they feel and fe cares about how others feel?
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>>38208070
actually infp is tied for 2nd
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I am into and have a 140 iq ytf can't I standardize test? I have 2s on APs and a 1310 sat... I am broken...
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>>38213043
this guy gets it
but it's less interpersonal skills than crippling anxiety
on the surface I'm a cool and fun guy and everyone likes me
on the inside I'm wondering when my friends will ditch me
t. ENFP
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>>38213326
>mfw anon is male and I'm straight
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>>38209364
>introvert
self explanatory
>intuitive
instead of focusing on here and now always stuck in their head thinking about how things could be. so focused on their ideal life they will always be dissatisfied
>thinking
by all these "women hating" "kill poor people" "f*ck with happy people for fun" threads you can tell they definitely have a hard time caring about others and are pretty selfish. definitely not caring types. also pseudo intellectuals.
>perceiving
pretty obvious. lazy and not the type to plan or be organized. stereotype of living in a mess of their mother's basement basking in filth.

also this is just me poking fun and criticizing intps, most of this applies to me too minus the thinking so please dont be hurt or anything it's merely for fun and advice of what to improve and also an explanation of why most robots are intps in my opinion
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>>38210658
i cant tell if this is really good ironic sh*tposting or if this is some pseudo intellectual fake woke intp
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>>38210879
maybe it would be a good idea to post a link to a quiz since some people might be interested but lots of time when scrolling 4chan people may be too lazy or apathetic to go out of their way to google so with a link people would be more inclined to take the quiz and post results and then discuss
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>>38211437
(\ brohoof brotha
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>>38213772
>good idea to post a link
Not that anon but here's the link
http://socionictest.net/Test.aspx
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>>38213748

If you don't understand, you are really dumb.
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>>38213855
>intp
>calling someone dumb and saying they dont understand when they poke fun at your fake deep self fellatio
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>>38203373
Is there a similar pic for INTJ?
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>>38213843
what monkey in a labcoat made this thing
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>>38214114
>what monkey in a labcoat made this thing
It's translated from russian
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>>38211332
INFP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk3nUTS8ATk

Ironically, I can't stand DFW, who the song's title is a reference to
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I'll be grateful for personality types of any leftists around here.
Further details about your ideals, ideology and the likes are also welcome.
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>>38214452
ISTP Communalist here what up mothafucka
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>>38214515
>thinking type
>communist
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>>38212463
Sorry doesnt cut it you EP types. We need another world war vecause you guys are the first to go.
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>tfw to smart for cognitive functions test
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>>38214452
INFP not sure if i'm an Ancom or a Marxist-Leninist it changes every few years.
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I've gotten INTP, INFP, INFJ and INTJ , What the fuck am I?
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>>38214515
INTP Anarchist/Communist myself.
Used to do better, high time to do something about it I presume.
Hope and wish you well.
>>38214695
Fair enough, especially when there usually is more than one anwser or alternative for things. Matter of keeping a leveled head.
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>>38214738
A loser
oorriiggiinnaall
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>>38214738
taking the wrong test
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>>38203911
master race of all types, Jung was an INFJ

but look into functions, you might be an INTP, the test can't differentiate between INTP and INFJ
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>>38203373
Sup cunts. Your God coming through. Betas are welcome to take their place at my feet with my dick in their mouth
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So if ISTP have 'wtf years', how come INTP don't? Or do we just have 'wtf life'?
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Does that mean i'm right between INTP and INFP ?
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>>38214565
H*ck man I'm INTJ. Could do without most E types except ENxP
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>>38215266
>Does that mean i'm right between INTP and INFP ?
That means you do crappy tests.
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>>38214787
Gonna need some citation on that claim, I've always read that he was INTJ
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>be INTJ
>fiercely competitive with others
>infuriated when Chad breathes
>slighted by arrogant fools and smart asses
>take everything personally
>constantly fawns over ENxPs irl and online
Heck man
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>>38204265
I'm INFP, love writing and making art but I have to learn how to motivate myself because otherwise I'll never do anything. I can't smoke because I'd become a lazy blob.
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>>38206678
>Morality exists as a concept to be enforced on groups of people, to maintain long-term stability and order, nothing more. It inherently conflicts with freedom, to stop caring is to be free.

>Morality exists as a concept
Morals aren't just a concept, they are a function of what we are and who we where, which is to say that people don't just think about morals they enact them in order to acquire or achieve some gain or to avoid loss in life

>to be enforced
Not necessarily, just because something can be used to make change doesn't necessarily mean it will be, or, should be for that matter.

>to maintain long-term stability and order, nothing more.
It's also used to maintain a level of civility so that most people can be happy and comfortable with minimal threats to worry about and to enable short term coexistence between people by way of an agreement of moral parameters.

>It inherently conflicts with freedom
Sure absolute freedom is to be unbound by morels.
But.
Surly true freedom would be to use morality and other such things as the tools that they are in order to master living and being to rise above the baser animal nature inherent to the human condition?

>to stop caring is to be free.
To stop caring about morals is also to become detached from one of the basic functions of humans that allows them to coexist in any real or meaningful way.

Morality is derivative from the human need to differentiate growth from decay in a very general sense.
What humans as a species have managed to do with this tool however is both staggering and horrifying.
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>>38213232
ESTJ here too. Mostly here out of irony.
To answer your question: yes, I am at least
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>>38215635
>Mostly here out of irony.
From r/4chan or just a tourist?
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>>38215474
>be ENxP
>relate to everything you just said
>except I fawn over INxJs instead
Naisu
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>>38214025

confirmed retard original post
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>>38211332
>INFJ
It's not my absolute favourite.
But it is one of my favourites.
For a lot of reasons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TERyxFfMqDk
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>>38215698
That's really qt nonny. You will be the leader of our autistic group, succeeding where we fail
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>>38205201
I know of atleast one INTJ girl, and I am trying to sex her. But I'm an INTP so progress is indeterminate, and often embarrassing. She still talks with me, though; sometimes.
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>>38216112
She probably wants to give you a chance, INTJs are patient with potential mates since they aren't very socially able. At least, romantically they struggle heavily early on.
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>>38216066
>leader
Hahahaha, as if I could lead. I need an INTJ mastermind to give me instructions otherwise I'll be too scatterbrained and start laughing instead of putting into action a meticulous plan to BTFO the normals

Also check your email nigger
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>>38216214
>mfw anon recognized me by post style
Aaaaahhh
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>>38215291
I'm skeptical of any self proclaimed intj on the internet the same way I am with "gifted people." The titles and associations attract the fedora types and other random faggots who like to spoil my pain.
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INFP here. just chillin'. contemplatin'.
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>>38216637
I used to be an INFP until my depression took away my ability to feel anything.
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I think this is fairly accurate.

fasfasawwa
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>>38211332
INTP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99M0EKKsdUQ

>>38216150
Thanks for the positivity and encouragingly comfy reply image. I'm patient too!
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>>38216668
make stuff my bro.
start cool projects and finish them. whether its art or music or writing whatever.
always makes me feel better
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>>38216507
How can I prove it to you? Do you want me to prove it?
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>>38216695
No probs anon. I'm glad I could help a fellow autist even if it's in a small way
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>start taking wellbutrin, xanax and caffeine pill every morning
>mbti type goes from INFP to ENTJ

nice valid test you have there
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>>38217091
Talk to me about something interesting.
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>>38211332
Hello, INTP robot here with a suggestion. Most people's favorite songs have a personal-historic significance beyond just their taste.

A better test might be to offer a selection of songs and ask robots for their type and which song they most preferred. This way, you would filter out personal history, aside from the occasional "OMG THAT'S MY FAV SONG"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_T9k_lzYcI
I also answered here, if you're serious about the data collection: >>38216695
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>>38217571
The death of intellectual discussion on the internet.
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Intellectual and meaningful discussion are coming to a close on the internet. The reason being is the popularity of social media platforms, idolism, extremely fluid communication systems and a deterioration of society as a whole, which is in itself a result of Cultural Marxism which is inherently anti intellectual.
Social media platforms in their current use and not necessarily their intended use are self masturbatory and self gratifying. When a user creates an account, depending on who they are they are create one for fun, social connections, curiosity or for hedonistic purposes like "snagging nudes", flirting, drama and et cetera. This always involves curating your own account to gain more attention/followers/likes/karma et cetera. While not inherently bad, browsing other profiles will always end up bringing an unnecessary and negative feeling in the browser- jealousy. When the user gets jealous, they either ignore it or seek to improve their account in an imaginary competition with those they feel or think are better. Jealousy leads to either drama or self loathing within the user and the users affected by the jealous user. Whether or not the user intended to feel this way or intended to be better than the other users as a means of popularity or et cetera doesn't matter since that feeling will always occur while interacting or browsing other accounts. Infrequent users that do not get jealousy are there to perpetuate jealousy in others even though they do not mean to. Because social media is focused this way, users on accounts aren't measured by level of intellect, content or originality but instead by popularity, perceived popularity or influence, which is measured by likes/upvotes/subscribers/karma etc. Thus, intellectual discussion is either pushed out by the idiotic masses following stupid people (celeb accounts or mods or other notorious users) or is drowned out
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>>38218152
>cont.
in the vaccum. Twitter is the best example- retweets and reception matter more than actual content, and anything viral will explode on Twitter and what goes viral tends torwards stupidity or pseudo intellectualism. (1/4 or some shit).
Idolaism ties in with the anti intellectualism. People will idolize anything- on the internet it's usually a famous human or a fictional character. When you idolize something you loose sense of your character or who you are. Circle jerking ensues. Anyone attempting to break through to a fandom or have a discussion with said fandom that is critical and insightful will result in said user getting banned or removed or ddos or hacked or doxxed etc. Now think about examples of things that are good to idolize about. Basically none. And when said figures of idolatry have very visible accounts or likes or etc they tend to be imposing and unchallenging. Anyone challenging them and what they say or belief is attacked and derided by supporters idolizing said figure. They are builled away or shunned from discussion or called a troll. Whenever this happens, whomever is being jerked off by the worshippers gains in power. On forums this promotes nepotism and tyranny in moderation staff. This often kills forums because the potential good users are chased away and then the regular users outgrow the sight, and thus it falls. "Nobody users" or "newfags" are typically the ones who want intellectual and meaningful discussion.
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INFJ hi
I've noticed Fi users usually create more discussion online than Fe users
I've hung around an INFP and learned to communicate better online by conveying my feelings easier.
Learned the ways of Ne desu
Sort of glad because we get stomped on with our Fe
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>>38217571
The butterfly effect is interesting. Have you heard of it? Theoretically the flapping of butterfly wings could set the chain of reactions that culminate in a tornado several miles away.

Small causes lead to large effects. I think suicide is like that. When people say their death is meaningless they just wish it were. No matter how insignificant you seem, your daily actions has already set into motion a ripple effect
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>>38218343
>cont.
The fluidity of communication on the internet has very visible effect on the atmosphere of the internet. Now, idiots with big mouths can spam quickly, move quickly from subreddit/forum to community to community etc. This is a problem because what they say takes up space. Meaningful and original content is lost quite quickly. The fluidity of communication is a way for the shallow and vapid to have attention.
What does that have to do with the death of intellectual and meaningful discussion? Well it creates a world of "virtue signaling", where everyone tries to one up each other on how they are more morally just than others. Reddit and Facebook have killed forums. Both are gigantic in terms of potential topic creation/discussion, killing out niche forums with their size and speed (forums are too slow). The userbases are different- Facebook is used by the non internet savvy and Reddit is used by the somewhat knowledgeable internet user. They have two things in common- an empirical platform for discussion and an upvote/reward system. The more you have the higher your account posts are regarded, fostering a hivemind mentality and aggregate groupthink. Pic related will do the rest of the talking
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>>38218152
>>38218343
This is a good post and I am drunk right now but I agree and also this happens irl and also normie sensors blah blah blah I am tired
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>>38218752
There's some more. I've also lost focus
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>>38218752
Anther one
FUCKING SENSORS
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>>38218752
Last one I think damn I hate this society
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>>38218781
>>38218795
>>38218805
I read alll off that anon and I agreed with it but I do not have any comments because I think you said that there all is to be said also I am drunk

But good job my friend
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>>38218904
Thanks Op hav en upboat
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>>38218805
>>38218795
>>38218781
>>38218723
>>38218343
>>38218152
I read all of that also and have nothing to add. I sit around thinking about those things at least once every day. That perspective emphasizes really being an individual, though it's armed with heavily antisocial connotations that if aren't checked inevitably become as antagonistic as succumbing to the culture in the first place. Nietzche's last years are a literal textbook example of that-- he went mad in isolation.

Individuality is powerful, but you always have to remember that humans are social creatures through and through; therefore, modern social media culture and its systems were an inevitable development. With life you just gotta pick your poison and ride it out best you can; the cancer'll get to ya eventually.
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>>38216692
Are INFJs the coldest machines?
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>>38212506
I'm not scared to break up with them. Whenever I realize that I'm not in love with my partner, I break up right away. One time I broke up with my girlfriend and drove away within five minutes of having an epiphany in the middle of a conversation where I realized she did nothing for me.

I just don't see the big deal in cheating because my ability to love has been damaged, and so I find it hard to understand feelings that require love. My childhood largely destroyed my ability to attach to others, despite being so clingy and loving when I was 7 and younger.
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>>38218152
>>38218618
On mobile. Haven't abandoned you guys. Just running errands.
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>>38219394
To clarify, what I mean is that I wouldn't care if others cheated on me because I rarely love anyone enough to care (not just as partners, but as friends), so why should they care if I do the same? One time a girlfriend of mine started hyperventilating whenever I told her we were breaking up (it was completely sincere, she wasn't the dramatic type at all), and I didn't feel anything but annoyance while watching her for making ear-grating noises.
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>>38205535
I'm an INTP and it's my favorite book.
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>>38203373
Does anyone have a good example of the stereotypical sensor dominant?

It seems that they're typically not attracted to theoretical shit like the MBTI, so it's hard to understand what a sensor dominant person is really like.

I can't exactly point at a random person on the street and proclaim they're not intuitive.
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>>38219525
Also, I'd like examples of Se and Si.
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>>38219548
>>38219525
A lot of my friends are intuitives, but they may just be perceiving themselves that way. I fear there's no real way to know with certainty.
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>>38219178
I disagree. Cultural Marxism, an anti intellectual disease, is why intellectual discussion is dying. The method of subverting humans that they use is to control us. Just as the Internet is global, so is cultural marxism. Or at least it will be soon. They're destroying people's minds, and it's visible on the net. Your thoughts?
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>>38219396
Will be patiently awaiting
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>>38214754
Wow, your retarded stirner literally believed communism couldn't work do to human nature. You are proof that INTP =/= intellect
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>>38203766
If you were actually an INTP you would know there is no meaning to be found in this world. True meaning is only an illusion that people delude themselves with to avoid the fact they're completely worthless.

t. INTP

>>38203972
>Who /INTP desperately struggling for actualization while coasting as a soulless puppet as the clock ticks and ticks and ticks/ here

Me

>>38204245
Why have any personal goals when nothing matters?
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>>38219705
>There is no meaning to be found in this world

INFP here,

If it weren't for my emotions, I'd probably think like you. It must suck balls to be an INTP
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>>38218152 >>38218343 >>38218723 >>38218781 >>38218795 >>38218805
It won't completely die. There's room. No matter how many kilowatt hours go into servers of upvotes and refollows, someone specifically looking to participate in, or, failing that, willing to build a place of intellectual discussion can still do that through the internet.
It's the maintenance of such places that may be getting more difficult, particularly if they grow large. But if nothing else, obscurity should allow small cells to survive for at least some time before getting infiltrated.
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>>38219651
Well let's disregard how speculative both of our perspectives innately are in this debate, given the fact that neither of us are in possession of tangible representations of what we're claiming past one-off case studies amidst a bottomless sea of billions. I'd argue that any and all observations of an attack on intellectualism is less a derivative of some higher powers attempting to cripple the public, and more of a derivative of a series of privileged individuals leveraging the ever increasing democratization of access to the net as a whole. Most people are not capable of discussing philosophy in depth. Most people are not privileged enough to obtain a university degree. Such perspective to this day is a privilege-- and it's far more fiscally advantageous to market towards those that latch onto social trends and culture mindlessly than to emphasize a more free-thinking, individualistic group of users. Those are the people installing Adblock on their browsers and pirating films and music, destroying industries out of self-interest and know-how.

In this case, I honestly think that a principle of the likes of Occam's razor is far more applicable than putting all of your chips in some fabricated, worldwide conspiracy of oppression; but I'm not ignorant enough to call such a claim ridiculous. It just isn't the whole explanation

It's more fun to be an idiot and have fun than to think and share well thought out, individualistic perspectives. "Even the wise man dwells in the fool's paradise."
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>>38205076
First time that I took the test on 16personalities.com the result was ISTP, then all the other times that I tried again I got INTP, but I identify myself way more like ISTP than INTP.
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>>38219936
>have that image saved, love it
Ah yes, the attack on free speech, intellectual speech and the art of conversation. We are under attack. Supposedly the anti intellectuals at Buzzfeed and Msm are already getting a second wind at taking us out. At least 8ch*n is still under the radar?
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INTP, used to be mistyped as INTJ here
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>>38219969
I'm worried anon. I'm worried. The world is filled with followers and pseudo intellectuals. I understand and appreciate your points about my cultural marxism theory. I know what you mean when you refer to university degree and philosophical discussion as being a privilege. I'm just angry and frustrated that things aren't the way they should be
>even a wise man dwells in a fool's paradise
It's not right. I hate this truth and I hate this reality, and your point earlier about how my thoughts and perspectives you agreed with have antisocial connotations. Escapism and "unplugging" from reality are more and more common. What are your thoughts on the prevalence of escapism in relevance to the degradation of true original thoughts and intellectual and philosophical discussion etc etc?
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>>38208017
Get zoomed by 117 IQ, retard.

t. INFP
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>>38219705
>why have any personal goals if nothing matters
You have biological impulses that urge you to do things, even if they're meaningless things. Follow those. Do whatever you find to be fun, enjoyable, interesting. Read, learn, procreate, write, jack off, go hiking. Whatever suits ya. You're gonna live this meaningless life anyway, at least make it an enjoyable meaningless life. Just because nothing means anything in the grand scheme of things, perhaps certain things can mean something to you as an individual

And hey, who knows, we can't know for certain that life is meaningless anyway. Maybe it does have a meaning and we just have to find it but probably not

>t. ENxP
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>>38220165
>What are your thoughts on the prevalence of escapism in relevance to the degradation of true original thoughts and intellectual and philosophical discussion etc etc?
I think I hop around this question as I grip and stroke a knife up and down a lonely wrist at 4 in the morning a few times a week. That happened last night especially, as I was attempting to reconcile the amassing anti-intellectual movement with my immutable masculinity, and what that masculinity has been converted to and "must be" defined by, in the modern age. What really makes me grip the knife is seeing that frustration as it wreaks havoc on havens such as /r9k/-- I see the prevalence of racism against "niggers" as a frustration of a disenfranchised mass of men that feel that the commoditization of black culture directly degrades their worth as men, and people. It's a largely anti-intellectual movement that is lauded as the near-pinnacle of western society; it's in fashion, it's in the music, it's on the internet. The venomous replies are a natural derivative of a near mindless, primitive culture that basically villifies anyone that doesn't align with its values (though it's important to note that this occurence is only in the place of an endless onslaught of cultures that have done the same throughout time).

When you're born into conditions not immediately conducive to immediate indoctrination and worship of society's most popularized values, you get disenfranchised escapists.

I've been writing a lot about this for the past few weeks actually, and what I've come up with so far is that it's in that dissonance between the individual perspective and the popular one where new countercultures emerge, rendering clashes in different locations, effectively moving the world culture forward. Man is a collaborative species; the escapists are a necessary symptom of a necessary process, serving a nigh unfathomable function regardless of how subtle. Their sheer occurrence must be the evidence.
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>>38220165
>I'm worried. The world is filled with followers
As it should be. We can't have everyone being a leader. Why do you think 3/4 of the world is sensor? Us intuitives need to shape the world and the sensor followers put our ideas into action
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>Was doing job today
>Decided to quit working on what I was working on to help on something else
>Think "it's not a big deal" in the back of my brain
>Guy comes along and quickly fixes what I was having trouble with
>Feel something deep within my heart panic
>Get deeply unsettled
>Didn't even care that much in the first place
>Can no longer think anymore
>Start to feel a bit delirious and I can't really see in front of me at all for a bit

What kind of personality trait is this?

I get INFP when I do the MBTI
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>>38220580
>You have biological impulses that urge you to do things, even if they're meaningless things.

What would you do if you don't have any biological impulses? I'm not devoid of them, but it would appear I'm severely lacking. I have a persistent urge to not be alive. The only reason I'm still here is because of my dog. I don't do anything simply because I enjoy it, I do it because I have to in order to sustain life.
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>>38220739
That sounds like a mental disorder.
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>>38214787
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/famous-intps

Jung was an INTP. Maybe if you weren't retarded, you would know this basic fact.
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>>38220165
>>38220602
So essentially, how I avoid killing myself is by telling myself that it's in those counterculture perspectives that humanity revolutionizes the previously established theses of the human condition, masculinity, intellectualism, etc. I think escapist minds represent the next frontier. I think the democratization of information and the internet will inevitably create more minds, and has already begun to shape a more intellectual tomorrow, no matter how subtle it may be occurring, and people like you and I are the evidence.

I think a good example is a show like Rick and Morty. As cringe-y as it may be, it's a widely accessed television show that's thoroughly memed that utilizes a series of deeply philosophical ideas from a myriad of historical figures and legendary writers-- in a popular, mainstream cartoon.

If you've read Shakespeare or western European history, you'll also be aware that Game of Thrones is literally just Shakespeare-lite. I was taking a Shakespeare course a few years ago at uni and my teacher cleverly attracted the disinterested normies into the history surrounding the throne by explaining it as an episode of Game of Thrones (seeing as GoT is Shakespeare/Actual History-lite). The class became far more passionate following.

I believe that our media is getting richer, believe it or not. It's just a matter of immense patience.
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>>38203919
>an istp that lies and manipulates other people

Wat? That tells me you're not istp
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>>38220739
You INTPs are truly a different breed. A couple things. One, sounds like depression. Try SSRIs, healthy eating, exercise, better sleep, and positive surroundings, and see if that boosts your serotonin. That should get you to enjoy things.

Two, you don't have an urge to not be alive. You have the urge TO be alive, that's why you do all the things you do to survive. You just have depression.

Oh, and a third thing. Find things you enjoy. You may not see them right now but eventually you'll come to find things that make you happy. Just follow those pursuits and indulge in them till you die. Also try to get a wife one day, having a family usually inspires people to live.

If all that fails, then I guess you're just made to suffer. But hopefully that isn't the case. I truly do feel bad for you INTPs. It seems to me that your biological value is to push the world forward with your innovations and intelligence, but it often happens that many of you get left behind in the process, only the top few INTP truly make it, middle tier ones settle into a comfy normie life, and the rest just get super depressed.

For most, biological impulses are enough reason to live, they are innate to most people and are enough subjective meaning. But for the INTP, they both understand that there is no objective meaning and often lack innate subjective meaning.

Anyway sorry I got carried away (>tfw Ne dom), lel. My point is: be an absurdist and try your hardest to create meaning for yourself
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>>38218152
>>38218343
Aight you convinced me. While I agree that the internet as a means for discussion is dying I don't think the causes you talked about are to blame. i know it's a meme, but it really is just the internet being normalized that's bringing it down. Even as late as 2012 small forums were still very much alive and free from all of the bullshit that plagues the internet today. There's a larger root to all of this I just can't put my finger on it. Politics is the closest thing, but even that I feel is not the base as nobody cares about real politics (midterm elections, local election, propositions, finance bills, house committees, you get the idea).
We've just collectively jumped off a cliff and we're screaming at each other on the way down. I think there's a lot of truth to the ideas Calhoun talks about with his behavioral sink. If you want a rabbit hole or just an honest intj trap here:
The fermi paradox says that if the universe is truly as big as we think it is, or bigger, than we should have encountered some form or trace of extraterrestrial life by now, so what is the problem? What is it that makes life rare. Now Robin Hanson put forth an argument that there is a "Great Filter" to one of the critical steps going from organic molecules to interstellar travel. He outlined some key steps and proposes that one of those steps is improbable or difficult in some way. Now after demonstrating in various experiments (forgot the name but basically the lightning fishbowl) demonstrating how easy it is for organic molecules to exist and life to come out of those we're led to believe that perhaps we haven't reached that crucial step as well (sorry I'm shitting over my reasoning here but I don't have all my links on me).
SO, I got to thinking that perhaps the behavioral sink is the great filter and Colonial Explosion is the hardest step because of it. My reasoning is that at some point in an intelligent species lifespan-
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>>38220903
>If all that fails...
It has failed. I don't want to be around people. I don't want to be human. This life was fucked from the start, and accelerated into a downward spiral with the assistance of hazardous chemicals.
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>>38221101
If life is meaningless and enjoyable, it is worth living. If it's suffering, it's best to end it because no life is better than a shitty, meaningless life.

However, you are not going to end your life because of your most innate instinct: survival. Don't try to fight it, it's no use and suicide is just a waste anyway. Failed once? Try again. Try harder. Do whatever it takes and push through the constant shittiness of your current life to finally get better in the end. Wallowing in sorrow does you no good, only furthers the harm
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>>38218152
>>38218343
Eugenics becomes favorable and then necessary. We aren't talking nazis and memes, but I mean real selective breeding, or at least restrictive. The total carrying capacity of humans on Earth is estimated to be somewhere between 4 and 13 billion with most saying 7 (btw all of this comes from reading wikipedia so if you doubt this stuff just look it up, I need those chars). This means we may already be overpopulated as it is, but it's political suicide to talk about restricting births for the good of humanity. Now this is where the behavioral sink comes in. Calhoun talks about how the rats became weird once the population hit a certain amount
>Many [female rats] were unable to carry pregnancy to full term or to survive delivery of their litters if they did. An even greater number, after successfully giving birth, fell short in their maternal functions. Among the males the behavior disturbances ranged from sexual deviation to cannibalism and from frenetic overactivity to a pathological withdrawal from which individuals would emerge to eat, drink and move about only when other members of the community were asleep. The social organization of the animals showed equal disruption.
Now I don't know about you but I see a ton of parallels between those rats and a ton of modern problems to day (ineffective parenting, neets, trans shit, etc). I know that we are more complex than rats, but let's not kid ourselves our brains and social structure are very similar which is why rats are a model organism for various trails and experiments.
Almost done, sorry I got all excited. Now if the behavioral sink is a true phenomenon and if it is applicable to humans then you can see that we would totally be living in it. Cities are massively overcrowded and the world itself is overpopulated if you factor in long term sustainability. I know Occam can tear my ass apart here, but I feel like the assumptions I'm making are rather fair-
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>>38221082
The reason that the internet is common today is because it's accessible, easy to use, simple. It's just become an extension of the real world.

>We've just collectively jumped off a cliff and we're screaming at each other on the way down
Heh, I like this a lot. I think that's mainly due to the downfall of religion and the general mood of pessimism about the future of this planet. No one has any god to guide them and no more hope so we're all just like, "FUCK IT MAN"!

Reminds me of a story idea I have. A world where everyone is rendered infertile, there's only one generation of people left. So they just fuck around till the human race finally dies off
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>>38221101
You should download and binge all three seasons of HBO's The Leftovers. The main character basically gets to where you are by the second season.

The solution?
Life is a job. We're not here to like it, we're here to execute. Even if that's putting a gun in your mouth, that's a part of the gig. We're just a means to an end, manifestations of some unfathomably complicated force called nature that's a hungry, selfish, narcissistic piece of shit. The only flowers in our lives are the ones that we add and fabricate. One flew over the cuckoo's nest, anon.

Honestly? Fuck it. Be reckless. Follow the moment and figure it all out the best you can. This world is comprised of a bunch of children that were thrown into this world, and most of them spend all of their time trying to convince everybody else that they know what the fuck is going on. None of them do.

You can let your thoughts control how you feel, or you can control your thoughts. Sometimes. Just gotta roll with the punches and follow your gut.
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>>38218152
>>38218343
>>38221082
>>38221229
I'm taking my own bait at this point lol.

So What it boils down to is that we haven;t contacted aliens because there are none and if they exist it is rare that we will meet. We are truly alone in this universe because to expand we must destroy ourselves. In order for a species to become indefinite it must get rid of life's most basic instinct: to reproduce. The behavioral sink is the great filter and can only be overcome with restricting the number of births per an agreed upon number of humans (I vouch for the 4 billion though), Selective breeding can honestly make this process a lot more effective, but we would have to first overcome the initial taboo of not allowing everyone to have children as they please. Crispr cas 9 may actually eliminate the need for selective reason as we could just edit harmful or unfavorable genes such as predispositions to leukemia or type 1 diabetes, you get the idea.

Whew done, gonna get my laundry and respond to anon #2.
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>>38220903
>Try SSRIs, healthy eating, exercise, better sleep, and positive surroundings
I would try SSRI's dead last. Going on, and off of, that stuff can have freaky side effects.

I would also consider taking on some responsibilities. For example, I help manage a special interest club/get-togethers, and having people/things depend on me, and not wanting to disappoint people, keeps me motivated (or maybe, "going" is the more correct word?) to do these things, and do them well. And then doing the thing, gets me out of the house. And being on of the house gets me socializing. And socializing moves my mind off of itself and on to other people/things. Etc etc etc. And even though afterwards I may not want to see another person for the rest of the week, I'm happy/found value in what I did.

I think what I'm trying to get at is: We, INTP's, need to always be taking in new experiences/people, revitalize our internal mental landscape. Otherwise it becomes barren and we start losing touch with the world.
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How are my ENTP boys doing?
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>>38221229
Have you heard of secondary succession in forests? Basically, a forest starts with very simple shrubs and grows and grows till there's large, complex trees. But they overcrowd the area and become unsustainable after a while, and are wiped out by natural means such as forest fires, clearing the area for a new "secondary succession" to occur. Perhaps the same thing will happen to us.

Or maybe we'll make it through, who knows? Humans are notoriously good at fighting through seemingly insurmountable odds
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>>38221216
The issue with life is that it can easily turn into suffering, and it's virtually guaranteed to do so upon the procurement of a job in any society (The act of doing something other people don't want to do).

It's hard to not live on a constant auto-pilot when you're mentally dead for 8-10 hours a day.

I don't understand how people can say life is good enough to bring more people into it in-spite of this.
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>>38221296
Not the guy you replied to, but man do I love The Leftovers. I've seen the first two seasons, where can I get the third?
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>>38221434
I pirated the whole show from piratebay bro, my ISP gives no fucks whatsoever. Sure you could find it streaming if you just google 'The leftovers online free' too.

Some of the best episodes of the entire show are in the final season, really.
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>>38221385
Life is what you make of it. It doesn't have to be suffering if you find a job you lie, people you like. And being on auto-pilot during the boring times isn't so bad if you find enjoyable things to do in your free time that make it all worth it.

>I don't understand how people can say life is good enough to bring more people into it
Honestly, me neither. But we're here now, and we can't just die. So let's do whatever we can to make it good
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>>38218618
Okay now your turn.
Yes it's interesting, but only from an economist's point of view, with opportunity costs and all that. The reality is that most deaths are somewhat meaningless to everyone other than your immediate circle of relations and any work you may have been involved in. Let's look at it this way.
A common argument against abortion is that the baby could have cured cancer, been the next mozart, etc. Now, not even looking at the lifestyle of the mother or any socioeconomic factors, how many mozarts have we had since the 1800s? How many great scientists have been born in the past hundred years?
Now, I do get that a small life can be great in itself. Coming home to small house with a normal wife ready with some simple dinner sounds like the dream to almost all of us here. There is a ton of meaning in just that, but how many of us will actually get there?
I guess what I'm getting at is that the butterfly effect neglects to include basic probability and black swan events. Even the greatest person in all of history can be killed by being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Not only that but how many people are truly great? How many people are even somewhat great? Humans have a kind of infinite potential, but what are the odds that they actually make use of said potential?
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>>38221358
>>38221229
The issue with the theory here is that human beings are neither trees nor rats.

There's an incredible layer of complexity that other life-forms are incapable of touching.

There are so many other real, testable reasons for all of the examples you've listed aside from your theory of behavioral sink.

NEETs are easily the byproducts of the PC and parental negligence.

Transvestites are merely more vocal than ever before, but still just as rare. Their "rise" is just the latest push from leftists rallying behind powerless, marginalized groups as they've done historically for YEARS.

It's irrelevant that our brains and social structure are similar. Rats are incapable of putting rats on moons. Human-beings are designed to identify and solve problems, and social issues as you've described will likely be identified, broken down, and solved.

There is no other real intelligent life-form on the face of the earth.
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>>38221490
>and we can't just die.
You can though, and it's easy.
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>>38221623
You bring up valid points. We were just drawing parallels and pointing out that all ecosystems do have a carrying capacity

However - humans are the one species with the capability of increasing their carrying capacity, drastically. So you are correct in what you say. I don't know if you've heard of the logistic curve, but if you haven't, look it's up. We're either at the point where we are just about to truly take off or where the rate of development begins to halt. Not quite sure where we are at this point. The next few decades are definitely going to be interesting
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>>38221623
>>38221229
I believe all the behavioral sink experiment proved is that life can be naturally destructive if it is not self-aware and allowed to grow un-inhibited.

It's the equivalent of watching mind-less bacteria in a petri dish.

If there's one thing the human-race will overcome, it's the behavioral sink.
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>>38221758
>it's easy
No it's not, if it was we'd both be dead by now. Imperative is forcing us to stay alive. Don't fight it, roll with it. You have the opportunity to experience some of the greatest joys a human can have if you just keep pushing on. Suicide ends suffering, but also leaves you with a 0% probability for happiness. At this current point in time, your probability to be happy is unknown. Give it a shot and see what you find
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>>38204265
Nick Drake, is that you?

Why do all INFPs just make music and kill themselves?
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>>38204265
>Be INFP
>Would smoke weed if I knew where to get it
>Draw a lot of art, but it's all very ugly because I can't really see what I'm throwing down
>It's not really motivated by feeling as it is motivated by desire to create
>People leave, but see it as a natural part of life, and sometimes it's by my own hand that this occurs
>Sometimes emotionally moved by music, but don't listen to emotional music as I'm constantly getting mentally ran through by reality now that I'm a grown-man.

The last song to really touch me was daughter by Pearl Jam.
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>>38211332
>INFP
>Elliott Smith - Tomorrow Tomorrow
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>>38211564
>Elliot Smith- everything means nothing to me
>The Smiths- I know it's over
>Radiohead- fake plastic trees
Pls be in Chicago
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>>38221808
I think that the mere fact that we can observe and recoup from economic failure and are aware that we may be on the cusp of a population explosion is evidence that we're capable of dealing with such a thing and all of the implications that come with it. We've already seen governments enforce one-child policies in the past.

I don't think the future will be any different.
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>>38220903
>If all that fails, then I guess you're just made to suffer. But hopefully that isn't the case. I truly do feel bad for you INTPs. It seems to me that your biological value is to push the world forward with your innovations and intelligence, but it often happens that many of you get left behind in the process, only the top few INTP truly make it, middle tier ones settle into a comfy normie life, and the rest just get super depressed.

This. I noticed Were drawn to fields which require a certian level of intelligence to compete in. Its soul crushing when you start noticing biological differences in people and start to compare yourself to them. When that happens it isnt likely you have people to fall back on.
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>>38219396
dumb phoneposter

OREGON
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>>38221623
Alright reddit spacing I'll bite.
>There's an incredible layer of complexity that other life-forms are incapable of touching.
Citation needed, and how do you even judge that?
>There are so many other real, testable reasons for all of the examples you've listed aside from your theory of behavioral sink.
Such as?
>NEETs are easily the byproducts of the PC and parental negligence.
I should have stressed this more. Our behavioral sink is much more complex, but the end result is the destructive deviance of our own out of an inability to "adapt".
>Transvestites are merely more vocal than ever before, but still just as rare. Their "rise" is just the latest push from leftists rallying behind powerless, marginalized groups as they've done historically for YEARS.
I'd like a source here but more out of curiosity since I don't know myself it was just an example I threw out.
>It's irrelevant that our brains and social structure are similar.
>There is no other real intelligent life-form on the face of the earth.
This makes way more assumptions that I tried to make. I hear ya, it's just that you attacked some of the strongest parts of my argument and left out the holes you could have attacked.
>>38221358
>Or maybe we'll make it through, who knows? Humans are notoriously good at fighting through seemingly insurmountable odds
I think this is why the behavioral sink is such an interesting obstacle. We can't get through it by just surviving and innovating. I mean, we will eventually run out of physical space and then what? Yeah it'd be great to terraform mars and all that, but will that be ready in time? Remember large populations are highly unstable. A single antibiotic resistant strain of something nasty could have billions, but that only pushed the problem down the road and is, in my mind, way more unfavorable than just restricting births.
>>38221849
As mush as this might seem like doom and gloom, I actually have some high hopes for humans as a species.
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>>38221863
>No it's not, if it was we'd both be dead by now. Imperative is forcing us to stay alive.
Nothing is forcing anyone to be alive. Death is only a trigger pull away.

>also leaves you with a 0% probability for happiness.
You don't know that.
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>>38210953
Yes. There are newfags born every week. At least 200 a month I'd say.
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>>38222285
I can't console you by reasoning with you. It seems like you're just depressed. All you can try to do is alleviate that depression through healthful methods
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>>38222103
>>38222103
>>38222103
>How do you even judge that

Look at the only life-form that created roads, cities, and nuclear-warheads.

Every other observable creature on earth isn't comparable.

I believe, at worst, we may strike calamity, but we'll never hit extinction.

Over-population will inevitably be solved by technology, tragedy, and regulation.

I believe the industrial world created this issue, and it'll also solve it.

I like to look at the problem of the behavioral sink and then look at cities in real life.

It's obvious that they distort human behavior, but, for all intents and purposes, they function completely fine. There's never shit over-flowing in the streets. The infrastructure handles millions of human beings, and money flows as it's expected to.

It's as clean as it must be to service a large, dense population that shouldn't be as compact as it is.

It's the human race over-coming of the behavioral sink through innovation and management.
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>>38222103
>>38222770
I would've responded sooner, but my internet cut-out on me.
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>>38222770
I don't believe your really an intj because you're missing the point of all of this. Plus, it's like you aren;t even reading what I'm writing.
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>>38222991
I'm an INFP, and I just enjoy spinning my wheels and connecting random dots.

Sorry.
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>>38222991
>>38223022
Also, you're right about me not really reading what you're writing.

I'm not thinking about it on the level that I should be, and that's primarily because I'm tired.

I'm curious as to what MBTI you are though. This was very interesting.
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