Why are math majors the cringiest?
>tfw no cringy math major gf
short story time:
I knew this guy, he had a Masters in math, but also started BSc in CS. One day at uni he wants to show my something on his computer. He had all of the files from 5 years of studies in a single directory. No sbudirs. Assignments, presentations, book scans, source code, binaries, test sets, etc. Needless to say I nope'd out. There is a fine line between math and CompSci, and math majors better not cross it.
>>38022934
>literally have never met a math major
The closest I've seen is physics.
Are they a myth?
>>38022934
Screw you OP. Math majors are the only people I can make friends with.
math + cs major here, we do exist
>>38022934
SHUT UP OP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
>>38023162
they're picking their nose in public or autist ing
>>38023395
i actually cannot deny the autisting part
Cringiest majors are Game Design majors. I go to a technical Institute with with around 15k undergrads and you can spot the GD majors in a crowd. They're all autistic manchildren who seem to all think they're going to get a job at Valve or Bethesda straight out of college.
>>38022934
Just how are they cringy ?
>>38023462
Yeah, game designers are just lazy self indulgent fucks
>>38023598
If you need to ask or if you're experiencing denial, you're cringe
>>38023598
more like prove they are cringy amirite xdd
>>38023850
really not, we can't do that, it's way more vicious: to prove anything in regards to cringe we would need to agree on some axioms and then build our proof with respect to them, but as we cannot do that...
i'm just curious so i thought i'd ask
>>38022934
cs is more /noshower/
physics has the inferiority complex
math is just a collection of teachers and undecideds with a few geniuses
>>38023969
so what does that make of my somebody studying both math and cs ?
>be 16
>go to family friend's campfire
>introduced to twenty something math major
>long hair, thin, tall
>liked D&D
>liked black metal
>we chatted really enthusiastically the entire night
>his friend spotted me from across the room, tried to chat me up
>qt math major backs off
>spend night trying to ignore friend
>party ends
>too chickenshit to approach qt math major
>i'm 22
Feels fucking bad, man.
>>38022934
>why are autists embarrassing?
Why are you asking redundant questions?
>>38022934
So first it's not enough that we can't get jobs with a shitty degree we don't even care for and just got because
>LMAO ANON UR SO GOOD AT MATH (AND SHIET)
and it was easy, NOW you have to call us cringey. What the fuck man?
>>38023124
I'm a geology student and I kept all my school and work documents together. I don't see the problem.
>>38023462
>>38023613
Fucking this.
>>38024546
well, you can become a hs teacher, that's what most of the students in my grade are aiming for
>>38023613
I find that actual game designers, as in those with a job in it, are quite hardworking because they are slave-driven. But they usually have CS degrees, which are more academically vigorous and not so overly specific that they are jobless if they can't be a game designer. Game Design majors, on the other hand, are like people who still think studying journalism will make them journalists. It's an overly specific meme degree which doesn't build fundamentals.
>>38024546
Can't you just be an actuary
>>38024689
actuary work and math have pretty much nothing to do with each other past a certain point, as such a math degree is actually nearly useless
>>38024609
Well here, in beautiful Southern California, that would take 2 years (couldnt start until next year), would cost +$20k, and would not guarantee a job. I know people like to say
>BUT WE NEED MATH TEACHERS
but those aren't the people in charge of hiring. Last time I listened to an adult's advice on how to get a job I wasted all of high school and undergrad studying my ass off for no reward and $30k debt.
>>38024689
Need to past the tests. I failed one since I took it early on before studying statistics or anything like that formally. I learned a lot, but underestimated how much it'd be memorizing formulas and insurance shit. The sample problems I studied were ass and I was (am) depressed.
I'm just doing navy so I can get the hell out of this shit hole.
>>38024746
that sounds rough, i tend to forget about the cost of education in the us as in my country (france fwiw) college tuition actually next to nothing
what exact fiels did you study in ? i may think of something...
>>38023124
I have a CS degree and I put everything in a folder called "to sort out later". Once a year I'll rename it by the year instead of sorting it out and create a new one. The future 2017 folder is currently 6139 files and still going.
The most interesting thing is that I manage to find things back anyway, despite not renaming the pictures saved on 4chan.
>>38023462
>game design major
If you go to a university offering this, you are being SCAMMED. This is not a real degree. Your shitty diploma is worth less than toilet paper in my eyes
>>38024881
If said university offers good networking opportunities it may actually not be that bad
I'm math/cs. I'm pretty stereotypical with regard to socially anxious behavior but I go out of my way to avoid the cringy shit I see from classmates. I take care of myself and don't bother others. I'm quiet but polite and can express myself clearly when I have to.
>>38024800
Applied math with an emphasis in econ since I hated bio, chem and physics were boring, and stats and econ were about the same for me but I got As in econ so went that route. Still did a ton of stats, which I actually like and find interesting (especially probability). Never considered CS since at my high achool it was engineering or medicine, although I doubt half of them even finished at all.
I feel like I would like CS but I only have basic knowledge of it and my parents stress me the hell out so I'm focused more on leaving than learning shit for god knows how long. Oh I have no car and in California that's a death sentence. Also no industry or shit in my area because everyone commutes to work.
If I could do anything, I dunno maybe some hybrid of cs and probability/stats, but again I haven't done cs extensively. I took one class over summer but by then it was third year so I couldn't switch again, started as a bio major.
So yeah Navy.
>>38024896
Yeah but then aren't you "networking" with people with similarly mediocre highschool grades and the same bad decision of an overly specific major. Might as well take CS at a better uni if you can, then your classmates-turned-friends have a higher chance of getting employed in the future and recommending you for their company
>>38024929
so your profile is actually tailored towards actuary work and the likes, wouldn't you like to try the tests again?
i mean, you can do navy, but in the long run i don't think it's worth it if you have other qualifications
>>38025006
when i said networking i meant networking with actual video games companies, you do have a point though
>>38024896
Universities don't offer shit. They might offer career fairs or companies visiting, but those people just add your resume to a pile thats the same as the people who apply online. Only way to get in is if your cousin's dad's friend works there and is a middle manager of some sort. University networking is a complete meme unless A) you find someone hyper motivated and has a project idea they're doing on their own B) you find someone who isn't chinese and drives a really nice car. This means they have connections by virtue of having a rich dad. Those are the only 2 kinds of networking that work
>>38025039
Ah yes that's true, internships and industry connections do matter more. The companies don't favor or specifically target game design majors though, so there isn't exactly an advantage. Although you would have more time for those internships and networking if you took GD rather than CS
>>38025047
This is why successful university networking usually involves joining frats and befriending the important kids through alcohol. Chads always win in the end.
>>38025011
It's somewhat tailored, but a few things.
1) Every time I look into "one of the best highest growing fields" it's usually too good to be true and is actually very saturated.
2) Actuary is way more about insurance and stats from that perspective. I like stats from a math/data perspective. Studying for those exams was a chore, which is unusual for me because I'm the type of guy who likes to sit down and get things done.
3) it would take me a few years to pass the tests, intern, and then land an entry level job. Socal a shit man, and I need to get away from my parents asap.
With all those in mind I'd rather deal with military where I can be an officer, get lifelong benefits, and "find myself" or at least make good money while I do. I say good because all my other college friends are doing retail except for the english major who got a job working with documents/data at an engineering firm her dad works for. Go fig.
>>38022934
>90-100% putting in numbers into equations then using other equations to get answer
>all done on calculator
>just need to memorize formulas
What do math majors even do for careers? Im not talking engineering or comp sci either. Just pure math
>>38026372
You're trolling, but maths isn't very useful for careers, for the opposite reason. Although it "proves you can think" I suppose, so it might be useful if you're applying for something that nobody has much experience in specifically
>>38026372
Once you get into the higher level stuff, you basically can become something like a system analyst. I only ever went up to ODEs but generally people can recreate systems through something like computational modeling and work on many niche things that require the creation of a new model from scratch.
bonus tip: if you can do both matlab and latex, you will be quite valuable
>>38023904
Their are always going to be outliers. If we create a bell curve rather than try to apply a mathematical theorem, but then would it still even be science ? For convenience sake what are the two ends of this spectrum, The Fonz (not cringe) to MLP (full cringe)
>>38026372
when you go into pure math (that is, when decide not to go for mathematics readily appliable for engineering and the likes), you basically chose to become a teacher/professor/researcher
>>38026547
matlab is more on the applied side of math (if we even need a distinction, more on that later...) so i don't know if it is relevant in this context (whereas software that allow us to do formal calculus would be more on the "pure" side)
also : how exactly does knowing how to use latex make us valuable ? i mean, i do use it a lot, but i still don't get what value there is in something that nearly anyone could learn to use in a day (let's be honest, for the most basic stuff, you just have to remember some keywords that are easily accessible online)...
lastly for the distinction between pure math and applied maths, to my mind the only real difference is that the fields of "pure" math have not found an application yet...
>>38026881
Just the fact that you can? Practical skills like that are really useful just because the other guy who applied only does maths. If you can prove you're not a raging sperg during a job interview, that'll help a ton too.
Haha, it's funny that you bring up pure and applied maths. I remember going to a few talks during my time in ODE class last year and while a couple were good, the rest were mostly people doing math for math's sake because it was cool. They usually had little real world application but I guess if you shotgun enough math majors, you'll get one to find something useful eventually :P
>>38024610
>academically vigorous
And you went to college?
>>38022934
people who don't post the gif let alone just a thumbnail of this image need to be castrated
>>38024881
What about masters? I am debating whether to get a game dev masters at a top ranked school or a cs or math masters at a top 100 school. The team project experience is a plus.
>>38026943
i'm going to take your word on that then ; i tend not to spend a lot of time with other students (i'm the math+cs major from above) and i stay alone most of the time so i don't really realize what value there is in things that i think are "normal" (for me that is...)
to me, ODEs, PDEs, and just any kind of differential equations are pretty much asking to be applied, they would not exist if not for their applications...
and then we have number theory, topology (i do like them, but as far as application goes they are not that interesting)
>>38023462
Some game dev programs are pretty demanding. I worked more in one half semester at a game dev grad program than I did in 2 years undergrad.
>>38026881
>math major
>good grades
>want to be a professor
>everyone online says that the job search is hell, adjuncts get paid in used condoms, the best you can hope for is full professorship at some shitty community college
>>38027138
Yea, that's when you should probably take a step back to and just gauge the competition. One of my old tutors from back in high school, total qtp2t, went to go on doing work for the military in Hawaii. I'm actually unsure if she's working on something with NASA or if she's actually doing some serious military work but, there's pretty good possibilities with a math degree desu
And yea, I agree. ODE etc. are really just a cool and rigorous way to ensure system stability. I feel most of the higher level maths even beyond that might be more useful for encryption type business? I'm probably wrong since I'm not exactly sure, but I'm guessing that's where most of the money comes from. If not, is it basically just pure maths?
>>38027241
the mathematics that, i think, are most relevant in cryptology are strongly related to number theory (finite fields theory alone for instance), but other areas of interest include complexity theory (as in a computer science course, as you need to evaluate the algorithms you are using), lattice theory...
and some of theses fields are strongly related to geometry and other "pure" fields that help us better understand them, and better apply them ; results in "pure" math can be surprising, the way combinatorics analysis and complex analysis are related is an example
another example of pure math being largely applied is graph theory (that are really strongly related to computer science and networking)
and then we have really anything that is related to differential equations, these things can be applied everywhere...
>>38022934
I bet math majors are smart though.
I cant even comprehend middle school level maths
>>38027510
and i forgot about data science, which applies knowledge from linear algebra, probability theory, analysis, and other computer science related math...
>tfw too dumb to do algebra right
>>38027510
I see. Yea, I feel like most people underestimate how applicable a lot of maths are and how they can bolster a degree if you do a minor in it or something. If you know some maths, computer science, and major in X field, it's really hard not to be noticed when you throw in that job app.
>>38027531
Honestly senpai, it's like learning a new language. When you understand how beautifully the world can be understood through mathematics it's absolutely fascinating.