Find a flaw

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>>37806263
Being a betacuck permavirgin is a flaw

>>37806263

Well I'm getting married to a hot blonde valedictorian who is obsessed with me in a few weeks so that's one flaw in your homo loner plan.

not making white children

>>37806263
>playing into the old divide and conquer trick
good goy
some people are decent, some are shitty. what you need is to learn to spot the difference

You're all pathetic betas who are just jealous that your only girlfriend who you probably found on Craigslist cucked you for Jamal and Deshawn. There are so many other women out there who would be more faithful to you and you don't even try, but instead start a sissy fag coalition.

"""Right""" MGTOWs are no different than leftist numale cucks who are completely fine with their woman cheating.

>>37806263
I am seriously stressing about whether or not to go MGTOW.
If I get married and have kids, they will be growing up in a globalized hell-scape.
If I get married but don't have kids, I am contributing to white suicide/genocide.
If I don't get married and don't have kids, I am also contributing to white suicide/genocide.

I can't take this anymore lads, I just want to go fuck a high IQ nigress and welcome in the Jew World Order rather than trying to fight against these ancient plans. I already got reprimanded at work for talking about the Jews and immigrants

MGTOW never seem to discuss race and still believe that "we're all the same" and can live an easy life playing videogames and feeling safe in their majority white area with low crime rates.

if they keep believing that then they will get a rude awakening when their society becomes majority black and turns into South Africa or Haiti

>>37806269
White genocide can't be stopped now. Last chance ended in 1945. Might as well just enjoy your life and not sign up to ((their)) marriage system

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>>37806264
>>37806265
>>37806268

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>>37806269
>I can't take this anymore lads, I just want to go fuck a high IQ nigress

Race traitor here, I can personally endorse this course of action. Blacks girls LOVE white guys. It's because black men are such fucking trash. Compared to the average black guy, a white guy is like a fucking superhero. Having a steady job, a moderate sense of responsibility, not cheating on her, and just treating her like a normal person will make a black girl fall head over heels in love with you. They've been burned so many times by shitty black guys that white men are like straight out of a fucking romance novel in comparison. My black girl is fucking nuts for me because I do all those things, and it feels good. The sex is good and the feels are even better.

If the master race is doomed, at least you can secure some personal happiness for yourself on the way down.

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this is the result of weebs becoming more attracted to cartoons of women than actual women

>>37806274
holy shit that picture

The best way to get women is to stop caring about them.

I bet those MGTOW will be all be maried in a few years.

>>37806269
Nigeress I work with seems to want to fuck me. Would, accept they (including her) all look like apes

>>37806263
I'm convinced MGTOW is just another jew propaganda trick to try and lower western white reproduction rates.

>Feminism
>Homosexuality
>Transgenederism
>Abortion
>MGTOW

It's just another way to lower our reproduction rates.

>>37806263
there is no flaw. seriously. i will have sex with woman instead of all MGTOW men, and i think they are really cool guys

>>37806279
>i will have sex with woman instead of all MGTOW men
Ivan is thinking.

>>37806269
>a high IQ nigress
No such thing stoner

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>>37806274
>>37806278
>Its Raining
probably a jew trick

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These meme never gets old

>>37806277
>accept
Hmm, who's the ape now? Neanderthal muthafucka.

>>37806263
Western birthrates atleast for whites are below replacement rates and seeing as the system is socialist this is a massive problem.
Being a neet isnt going to save europe from the niggers and mudshits.

>>37806282
It's a terrible day for rain.

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>>37806263
Loving you
Isn't the right thing to do
How can I ever change things that I feel?

If I could
Baby I'd give you my world
How can I
When you won't take it from me?

You can go your own way
Go your own way
You can call it another lonely day
You can go your own way
Go your own way

Tell me why
Everything turned around
Packing up
Shacking up's all you wanna do

If I could
Baby I'd give you my world
Open up
Everything's waiting for you

You can go your own way
Go your own way
You can call it another lonely day
You can go your own way
Go your own way

>>37806285
>Being a neet isnt going to save europe from the niggers and mudshits

As if /pol/tards making 3-4 kids would.

Your constant bitching.
The fact that I can't look up plane specifications without a third of the results being whiny incels.

Still ain't hearing any flaws...

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>>37806278
>don't have children

Yes, goyim! Let your race die while we flood you with vibrant diversity!

>have children

Yes, goyim! You'll need a big house and a college fund to raise your kids. My good friends at Goldberg and Sheckelstein can help you out.

No matter what you do, they win.

>>37806264
>Heh look. I put my own argument on a pop culture icon. Now you can't refute it
Wow. Really made me think .

>be easily impressionable and manipulated man
>date a girl for the first time ever
>11 days in
>"I l-l-love y-you...."
>she breaks up with you
>"I've never felt so heartbroken and betrayed in my entire life."
>"This dating thing obviously sucks"
>become MGTOW faggot

MGTOW's are the biggest bitchbloods in humanity. I have more respect for degenerate leftists than I do for MGTOWs.

>>37806293
This is why women always win. Guys put each other down, women rally to support other women.

>LOL WHAT A FAG IF I WAS HIM I WOULD HAVE BEEN SO FUCKING ALPHA THAT EVEN ALPHA COULDN'T DESCRIBE IT LMAO

>>37806263
>Men are still horny and still want sex
>Men now refuse to get married but still want the above
> MGTOW men promote promiscuity in women encouraging them to be whores.
>There are now no virgins left for those who do want to marry

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>>37806294
>Guys put each other down, women rally to support other women.

I don't put guys don't because they are guys and I don't rally to support guys because they are guys. I put down men and women who are unwilling to face even the smallest bit of adversity.

>>130454532

>>37806287
7/10 if not pasta

>>37806264
>>37806264
>Roastie spotted


Everytime

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>>37806297
am not famiglia

>>37806270
Listen to this guy, the UK is a multi cultural hell hole. Stay out of there.

>>130454532
Cry more.

>>130454532
Based Black Man telling how it is

MGTOW is painful to me. The sexual revolution should've never happened, or things like these would never have began. While I can agree that marriage is some serious dogshit right now, not all women are as fucking idiotic as you may think from modern day culture.

>>130454532
>talks about using memeflags
>uses burgerlandflag

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>>37806263
Whilst in the context of today's western society, as it is, it's a good idea - it is ultimately unsustainable.

No long-term good can come from such division between the genders; you cannot honestly expect a civilization (literally a super organism made of smaller human tribes made of human families) to continue functioning healthily when the very cellular fabric of those societies (the family) deteriorates to nothing.

Right now the law is horribly skewed in the favor of women in marriage, and what's more the culture has taught women men are disposable trash not to be respected, that exist only as an investment to be cashed-out-on at the first incling there's something better, and marriage is the primary method by which they do this.

This cannot continue and needs to be addressed - MGTOW is a symptom of a greater disease and it's an incredible shame that it has to exist at all.

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>>37806263
flaw: it wont change anything, women will still control the dating game in their 20s and receive endless validation from horny men. meanwhile you will remain a virgin without companionship in a sad and hopeless attempt to revolutionize social dynamics

>>37806263
MGTOW is fine for the individual. It is the best option in todays social climate. However, promoting it is BAD for the social climate, so why the fuck would you try to convince other guys to go MGTOW?

Plus every MGTOW youtube channel I've seen is full of bitter losers that hate women purely because they got rejected / cheated on

>>37806263
how about the fact that MGTOW is just a bunch of fat losers who cry about never getting any pussy, and hate the "evil feminists", and decides to start this kool bois klubb as to imply that it's their choice not to want women, instead of being honest about the fact that nobody wants them to begin with.

>>37806306
The glorious pete

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>>37806263

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>>37806263
You don't have children and then lose the evolutionary fight to those that do.

GG no re, you're fucked for all eternity.

>>37806264
>The entire measure of your existence is your ability to stick your penis into a slimy meat hole at least once in your life

Regardless, I think you'll find that a very large portion of MGTOWs are men who have been turned away from women due to their experience while with them. These men have tasted the bitter fruit and found it wanting. Rather than change their nature and slave themselves to the pursuit, they choose to run their lives the way they want to.

Women are just so fucking tiring and useless after getting in a relationship, I just cant care about their mom and dad issues and how they constantly "test" you and if you do or say something they dont like now you have to go through the same fucking ritual of asking them whats wrong, being ignored, then when you ignore them they speak and now you have to apologise and all that shit, and everyone woman does this like if they had a fucking step by step guide on how to always be a victim but also always talk about how smart and great they are.
Seriously I have never lasted more than a couple of months with anyone because its the same shit every time, fuck buddies are great but once its official its all shit.

>>37806293
>Be strong virile man
>date girl
>can fuck for hours
>she comes to friends house,
>dressed like slut, tell her she needs to change
>drives home changes clothes and comes back
>7 days in
>during sex she says "I love you"
>you say "good"
>Complete control of relationship because you are the man not MGTOW faggot

>>37806263
>willingly being a lonely loser who does not create beautiful hu-white children
Might as well just log out of life

>>37806263
loliness and lack of physical contact
>>37806272
>being loved is beta by a woman is beta

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>>37806263
pic realted, what a tru MGTOW looks like


>in b4 I get called a roastie

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>>37806263
I posted this some time ago:

Im MGTOW. I do exactly what I want and DO treat women like fuck dolls.
What if I toild you that MGTOW simply means that you reject gynocentrism. You can even be a married MGTOW as long as youre not a beta cuck pandering to women.
What is more alfa:
>be doctor, live alone, have sexual flings
or:
>be doctor, get married, divorced@ 5years because youre never home and she cheats, lose kids, house, pay alimony/childsupport
>your wife is still getting fucked every night while your children can hear the screams fromtheir bedrooms

>>37807245
>either or fallacy

how about being a normie with a wife and kids who isn't a divorce cuck or a gay going his own way

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>>37806274
>people unironically think that hentai was made by the jews to keep white males from reproducing

>>37807342
50% of men are now divorce cucks instead of just normal men.
Women pull the plug on marriages over the most retarded Bullshit.
Nr.1 reason is : dissatisfaction.
Im in med school, women literally just see me as a bag of money and Ill be MGTOW. Ill have children when im 50 in a third world country.

>>37806263
The fact that they cry about it on r9k later

>>37806281
Of course there is. But they're incredibly rare and obviously not going to marry someone from r9k.

>>37806263
Being a fag for life and this cult is for the ultimate beta permavirgins cucks. It's basically the male version of feminism.

>>37806274
Weebs are lucky without them knowing it. Real women are not worth it, these days I get why some people say 2D>3D.

I don't care myself about reproduction either, I am going to live my shitty anxiety ridden life and die some day, don't care what happens after that.

>>37806283
>These meme never gets old
giggidy

>>37806263
femanon here

sad that some guys think this way

>>37807245
Why would a woman actually want to be with you, you treat them like shit. Then you get all paranoid saying they're going to treat you like shit. lol so fucking oblivious. You're a natural cuck.

>>37806263
There is literally no good argument against MGTOW. The only """arguments""" I've even heard are "MUH JOOZ" and "MUH BIRTHRATES" and "MUH BETA VIRGINS"

>>37807596
>MUH BIRTHRATES" and "MUH BETA VIRGINS
So the two good arguments?

>>37807579
>Not pandering to women is the same as treating women like shit
Thanks for proving we live in a gynocentric society

>>37806263
No one here will ever have a relationship so I don't see why all the fuss.

>>37807544
You don't understand what it's like to be a guy.
A female will be constantly given attention she doesn't even want for having a vagina. A man can go his whole life without ever forming a connection with another person.

>>37807625
>Muh birthrates
If you're so concerned about birth rates you should tell western white women to start acting like women again instead of blaming men for not playing a rigged game
>Muh beta virgins
Literally not an argument, plus many MGTOW are in short or long-term relationships

>>37807625
I think MGTOWs dont really care about getting children and birthrate to be honest. I dont think its a good argument against them, they dont care about birthrate and reproducing or what happens after they are gone. Also MGTOWs what I have looked into arent virgins always. Anyway if it's their own choice and they don't care about it then how is that argument against one either?

>>37807625
>Muh beta virgins
>Good argument
>Attacking an epistemological viewpoint by criticizing the personal qualities of those who ascribe to it is a "good argument"
Gee once upon a time that was just called an ad hominem bucko

>>37807682
Isn't the point of it to not be in a relationship?
I hadn't heard of it before, so i just guessed from the op.
>>37807703
Yeah I think I misunderstood what it meant. If it's just doing what you want and not being 100% committed to anyone but yourself then I think it's fine actually.

>>37807625
Why don't you go cuck yourself by getting your wife artificially inseminated by a superior member of your race? You know, since it's all about the future of your race.

Why marry when even Chads can't keep it together after a string of divorces and years of almost-celibacy in cold monogamous relationships?

>>37806308
>MGTOW is fine for the individual. It is the best option in todays social climate. However, promoting it is BAD for the social climate, so why the fuck would you try to convince other guys to go MGTOW
Don't blame MGTOW, blame the culture that created it. Gynocentric society simply makes MGTOW the best option for the modern man. If you don't like that, do your part to destroy gynocentrism instead of bitching when guys defend themselves against it

>>37807726
>Isn't the point of it to not be in a relationship?
How about you try to do more than 2 seconds of research before you post about shit you know nothing about? MGTOW has all kinds of different levels, but it's mainly about men being self-reliant and prioritizing their own freedom. MGTOW can even get married if they don't allow themselves to be manipulated by their wives.

>>37807812
So its just... being a normal person. Okay, but why create a movement for things that people do anyway?

>>37806263
The flaw is you're whiny pisslords who want attention
If you want to go your own way, fine, but don't be obnoxious

You're all like 12 year olds running away from home and leaving notes saying "DON'T COME LOOK FOR ME" when really you're just hiding in your backyard

>>37806270
Lol, I'm a man, not some fucking insemination machine for the white race to use as it pleases. Marriage is an absolutely shit proposition for men these days. I couldn't care less if I'm "not doing my part" or whatever. Maybe you should fix women/marriage instead of trying to fix guys who just want their freedom like any normal person

>>37807579
I had to talk girls up so much to get even a decent girl (4-6) to flirt back.
Thats what I hate about women, the entitlement: now that you have money, you can get my attention.

>>37807835
>Why create a movement
It's not a movement. I'm not giving you any more (You)s until you can demonstrate even a basic understanding of what MGTOW is

>>37807923
Okay, good, because I was really bored.

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>identifies as MGTOW
>doesn't realize he is being FORCED to go his own away

imagine being this delusional

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>>37807844
>The flaw is you're whiny pisslords who want attention
The only reason MGTOW gets any attention is because it triggers autists like you, because apparently men wanting their own life is an unforgivable outrage.

>>37807635
Are you retarded you just said you treat them like a fuck doll. An inanimate object simply used for your tiny penis. Actually treating someone like a human being isn't pandering, it legitimately sounds demeaning for any female to be around you.

>>37807914
Then stop advertising your wealth to them with flashy shit, cuckboy.

>>37807954
>MGTOW is one person

>>37807969
MGTOW is made by and for autists
If I were an autist, I'd be praising the rest of you autists

>>37807992
>Are you retarded you just said you treat them like a fuck doll
1. Not me
2. The behavior of modern women indicates that's precisely how they want to be treated

>>37807544
Tell you what, if you ever get married come foward to your future husband with a prenup drafted by yourself relinquishing all joint assets, alimony and custody of children should you be the one initiating it or in case you ever cheat on him.

If you do that, your opinion on this matter might have some relevance.

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>>37808013
>Yet another anti-MGTOW cuck runs out of arguments
Every fucking time

>>37808029
Both sides need to have attorneys present as well during the signing of the prenup, or else it's just going to get thrown out of court. :/

>>37808029
>initiating it
I meant initiating divorce

>>37808021
>2. The behavior of modern women indicates that's precisely how they want to be treated
Some gay guys behavior indicates he wants to get fucked in the butt, does that mean all men, even you, want to get fucked in the butt?

>>37808021
>Not me
>But I completely agree
So you're retarded on two accounts, got it.

>>37806264
I'm mgtow and I had a relationship for about a year and 9 months. I had a lot of sex in that time. I don't think there's anything I wanted to do I didn't, and I certainly don't feel starved for sex even a year and a half later.

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>>37807992
Its my fantasy to start cucking married womens husbands and make babies that way.
Maybe it will be you I cuck.
Anyway to each his own. Have fun with married life, you only have a 50% divorce rate and a 25% happiness rate.

>>37808102
They are not the large majority

>>37808178
That's from the last generation. People in their early 20s/ late teens will be more like 60% divorce 20% satisfaction in marriage

>>37808206
kek, yes I know. Its hilarious, marriage is dead.

>>37808136
>a year and 9 months
>a year and a half later.

I can tell that you're one of these fellas >>37806293
because you counted down each and every single month

I'm not MGTOW and I've had relationships that probably lasted close to two years and I never counted how long it lasted, I just had a vague idea at best.

>>37808178
Why would I get married? I'm picky about women.
You just sit there and fantasize about being the bull, cuckboy. You're already cucked so it's no wonder you'd sit around wishing you were the bull.

>>37808189
Just admit you're gay. You sit around fetishising how great men are, and how bad women, screaming they're worthless. Just admit you're in love with big throbbing powerful cocks, fag. You're a sub gay boy that wants to get topped, you're jealous chad isn't treating you like a girl instead of him treating actual girls like girls.

>>37808232
>>37808206
>>37808178

You know that getting a divorce isn't a bad thing, right?

Maybe you've read too much from r/theredpill and are overly concerned about paying child support for your imaginary children.

>>37806263
Men are supposed to put women in their place, not giving them freedom and then turning against them.

>>37808262
>Just admit you're gay. You sit around fetishising how great men are, and how bad women, screaming they're worthless. Just admit you're in love with big throbbing powerful cocks, fag. You're a sub gay boy that wants to get topped, you're jealous chad isn't treating you like a girl instead of him treating actual girls like girls.

No, but you should do some investigation on why you are able to speak so eloquently about this stuff.

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>>37806263
im on a walk and roasties keep checking me out -_-

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>>37808262
Ok, MGTOW is not for you. Goodbye!
Have fun with married life, you only have a 50% divorce rate and 25% happiness rate.

>>37808310
i agree, losing half your wealth+alimony isn't so bad, and plus it's not like divorce rates are high or anything

>tfw friends gf tries to flirt with me

>waits until he's out of the room and makes comments about her shorts riding too high and even shows me

>fucking whores

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>>37808368
>No, but you should do some investigation on why you are able to speak so eloquently about this stuff.
It's because some people quote me as "the worse troll that ever existed", roachie. That's why.

>>37808401
lol you're so beta you can't get married because you know you're such a shit mate you'd get divorced.

>>37808310
I have personal experience. This is not some internet meme. Divorce rape is real.
But like I said: GO! Go get married.

>>37808247
Oh well man I remember our anniversary because you're supposed to remember that shit and take her out on a date (when I was driving her to the restaurant she hit me a few times, good date). I remember the month that the last, bitter communication (when she told me she'd have my entire family and all my friends murdered if I spoke to her again...funnily enough she still intermittently tries to make contact with me) took place in, and yeah, rounding to the month, it was one year and 9 months together, and it ended one year and 6 months ago. I don't fucking know though, I could be off by a few days, shit.

I guess I was trying to make the point that while the sex was good, it wasn't worth the above and more. The overdose I called an ambulance on her for and she never forgave me for the embarrassment of being taken to hospital, the "friend" she swapped nudes with and who was the reason she left my place and started the break up process and the accusations that I was cheating on her with my fucking sister are my personal highlights.

Fuck. Women.

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>>37808401
>>37808178
What's the happiness rate on posting frogs as a single 45 year old NEET with no loved ones?

>in b4 I am a millionaire Chad Thundercock who has had so much sex kiddo

>>37808310
>You know that getting a divorce isn't a bad thing, right?

Of course not, it's just one of the top 5 causes of suicide among the male demographic.
How can someone say it's a bad thing.

>>37808406
>losing half your wealth+alimony

That's not usually a thing. Alimony only happens when there's a massive wealth discrepancy, sometimes. Not always.


>in b4 copypasta jpgs from r/theredpill

>>37808459
>It's because some people quote me as "the worse troll that ever existed", roachie. That's why.
Poor little roachie, you don't even know do you? Who do you think started the mgtow threads months ago? You ever started a fire with sticks before? You got to build it up, till you got a bundle of faggots before you start the friction to set them on fire.

>>37808510
>it's just one of the top 5 causes of suicide among the male demographic.

oh?

[citation needed]]

>>37806314
I agree. My gf also agreed. And so we are in a 13 yo relationship and we dont cheat on each other but we wont marry because all our friends are either divorced and unhappy. I think because marriage is a social cage and knowing that messes your mind. Only when you are truly free you can say you are with that girl because you want to and not because society/conventions tell you.

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>>37808495
This thread has become cancer.
The cucks here desperately want men to keep getting married but dont give a shit when the marriage laws in the West become worse and worse for the man.
>keep jumping on that sword men
>Atlas, keep carrying the eight of the earth
No, but you do it, while I spend my life with my hobbies.

>>37808572
I saw in an video where Stefan molyneux interview the guy who made the Divorce Corp documentary
Not gonna go over the entire interview

Here is the link if you are interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4BU4OdnbS4

>>37808675
>while I spend my life with my hobbies.

You sound like a fat feminist cat lady.

I'd rather spend my life with people than with muh hobbies

>>37808572
Also if i'm not mistaken it's the 2nd cause of bankrupcy for people.

same source: >>37808701

>>37808701
>I saw in an video where Stefan molyneux interview the guy who made the Divorce Corp documentary

So that's, what, 3rd or 4th hand information?

Are you sure it's not just something you made up or dreamt about?

I did some googling myself and couldn't find anything that said that men were killing themselves all willy nilly because of their divorce.

>>37808728
>>37808738

>I saw it in a youtube video

at least try.

>>37808738
The guy made a documentary about it
I'm not that invested to do my own research but it definitelly beats this:
>>37808310
>You know that getting a divorce isn't a bad thing, right?

>>37807417
Medfag here. I feel you bro. You should aim for a medfemanon. The only way they are not going for your money is that they earn more or at least close of what you make, AND she will put up with our crazy schedules.
I grabbed my gf in medschool and we are peachy. But the nurses/other no med personnel want a piece of me . And im no pretty boy for sure. Some of them are true semen demons. Its hard bruh

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>>37808675
I like how I just asked you how happy you were, and suddenly you're posting not-so-smug pepe and calling me a cuck & calling the thread cancer and going on about Atlas carrying the earth upon his shoulders and all that.

whew lad.

That really makes me think

>>37808761
>The guy made a documentary about it

And no one has ever lied in any documentary ever, especially not one with an agenda.

Surely this information should be up on the first page of google search results, if you're willing to throw it out there as a fact so casually.

>>37808811
>google search
suuuuuuure....
Then whats the point of this thread
Lets all conduct our own academic research and present the findings on some symposium or something, then.
You wanna discredit any source that differs from your opinions, that's retarded.

>>37808711
Then go do what you like. I like cycling and mountainbiking and thats what I do.
Go get married. Have fun. Truth is that poor men have nothing to lose in this case.
See my earlier posts for more comments.

>>37808711
>>37808793
You are not a coward that can't even own up to name-calling on an anonymous imageboard. You are not so blatantly stupid that you can't understand that, for some people, spending time with people feels like getting swindled by used car salesmen that'll stab you in the back for a few thousand bucks.

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This thread need more Spidey

>>37808862
>You wanna discredit any source that differs from your opinions

With more opinions i should add

>>37806277
in this context, your inability to spell has really fucked you up, lil niggalover.

>>37806295
>There are now no virgins left for those who do want to marry
Except there are no virgins regardless. I agree with the rest of your post however.

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>>37806263
I'd be more supportive of MGTOW if there wasn't a new thread by the same shrill nerds every goddamn day.

If "Real Men Go Their Own Way", then "Real Men" shouldn't be so desperate for validation.