>Do you actually even want to work? My psychologist asked

I don't want to work. Or maybe I did if I was able to function normally and could pursue whatever I wanted. But if I'm able to work at all, it would be a part time job doing something shitty and mundane. I don't feel good about lifting boxes from one shelf to another or mopping floors or stuff like that. I used to have shitty jobs like that and they made me more depressed than what I currently am as a shutin neet.

>>37638658
> berating me for an hour straight
Where did they get their license? Seriously, blaming patient is the worst thing mental doctor might do.

Just go work in a warehouse. It will make you feel like a man.

>>37638736
I can't drive, or use public transport. I can't get to any job.

Hence why we're only discussing earning money online.

I'm 30 soon, so it isn't like any of that's going to change anytime soon. It's not like I'm a 16 year old faggot whose just a bit nervous to drive, I literally cannot drive, I get overwhelmed by everything going on around me. Public transport I can't be around people in crowded area like that, especially since you can't just get off at anytime.


Plus I can't work around other people, I can't concentrate on what Im doing when around other people at all. I get mentally fatigued very quickly.


All that shit aside, even if there was some way to make money online, what would I even be working for? Just being able to buy food isn't motivating enough to get me to work. I need a purpose to work, and there is none.

Everyday that goes by that I think about this situation the easier it gets to accept the fact I'll probably an hero when parents die.

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Define "wanting to work". I always have a list of conditions for normies before I would be willing to work.

1) Give me a job, flat out, no ifs ands or buts.
I don't want to fucking interview, dance like a monkey, pretend and lie and have people judge me like a slave at auction. I also don't want to have to work to get the chance to work. Normies always call me lazy, but deny me the chance to even work, so how can I be lazy.

2)Demand the job trains me on-site at their expense. No more of this hurr you have to have years of exp and schooling in our bullshit or you can't work here lol

3) Less than 40 hours a week for FUCKS sake. I do not understand the normie mindset of essentially surrendering the majority of your life over to wageslaving. The fact that labor laws lowering weekly hours stopped being passed is proof society has stopped progressing. Honestly companies should have to pay overtime for anything over 20 hours a week in my world.

4)Guaranteed unemployment money when they fire me for not being a "team player" or whatever bullshit normies pull when they detect you're not a smiling normie buffoon like the rest of them. I lost two jobs now because of some contrived reason that amounted to basically getting kicked out of the friend circle at high school except just for adults. My work performance on tasks was always fine, I just never wanted to socialize.

tl;dr the deck is much too stacked against workers, and triple stacked against antisocial robots.

Who the fuck actually wants to work? What kind of fucked up masochist wants to devote hours of their precious life toiling for some one else's benefit? Is this a sick joke? Was this person who asked this question born on some plane of torment where suffering is the equivalent of pleasure? No I don't want to work and fuck every person on Earth who thinks less of me for that. If you told me I could earn a living jacking off to anime porn every day I'd only get up from my home computer to shit and piss and microwave more pizza rolls.

Seriously fuck normies and their "work ethic" horseshit.

>>37638724
OP could be overly sensitive and the mere notion that someone could want him to not sit around all day is 'berating'

>>37638867
yea, no one's going to deal with your bs, your highness
good luck in the real world

ffs you guys are dumb

the psychologist just wants to get any job, thats their job, to make you be somewhat functional so your no long a burden on other people

so whats the go?

JUST DO THE FUCKING JOB AND BE YOURSELF, YOULL GET FIRED FOR BEING YOURSELF

once you get fired from enough jobs for being your fucked up self, you'll eventually get put on bux for life

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>>37638658
Oh Nonny you're doing it all wrong.

>>37639040
>Oh Nonny you're doing it all wrong.

Explain

>>37638658

Your Psychologist is a woman ? Yeah stop paying for that shit because she will project her lack of insight on to you.

Secondly, read serious philoshpers and psychologists if a lack of meaning is the reason behind your lack of motivation.

Thrirdly, Making money is easy, normies wageslave because they are incapable of introspection and therefore have to be constantly doing something within an extraverted ecosystem, They take orders because they don't need to think. They assume anyone who isn't doing the same thing is insecure or lazy.

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>>37639058
You are giving money to somebody whose "job" involves telling you to get a job.

I'll do it for half price.

>>37638988
I'm doing fine actually, I'm what you could call "self-employed" but not rich. I'm not unintelligent.

You should be thankful people like me and others exist, with high expectations and standards for society. We fight the race to the bottom epidemic, and one less person competing for your precious "job" from massa means a tiny bit more leverage for you.

>>37639085
Not him. What does being "self-employed" entail?

How do you sustain living without work and (I assume) NEETbux?

>>37639066
>>37639085

How do I escape the ratrace lads?

>>37639066
My issue isn't just a lack of motivation to work.

It's that with a combination of life-long mental disorder.

I feel like the psychologist is trying to move too fast with me because I'm 30 soon and "need to get my shit together". But I'm in a hole so deep I still cannot comprehend just working.

I don't even do basic things. I've never had friends, I never go out, I do anything besides goto the gym at night when nobody is there. I don't goto shops, I don't see any family besides parents (because i live with them) i dont goto family christmas or whatever.

Me getting a job is the last thing on my mind.

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>>37639117
You are just a lazy nigger, the cure to all of your problems is getting a job

>>37638867
>I don't want to fucking interview, dance like a monkey, pretend and lie and have people judge me like a slave at auction.
the point of these interviews is to see if you're actually fit for the job. Why would anyone want to hire someone who is rude/can't work in a group environment/might not even be qualified for the job they're after?
>2)Demand the job trains me on-site at their expense. No more of this hurr you have to have years of exp and schooling in our bullshit or you can't work here lol
depends on what you're after. If you have a degree and did some kind of internship while in school you should be covered for most jobs. If not you're probably applying for something you aren't qualified for. You can still apply if you're underqualified but don't expect anything.

not even going to try to reason with you on only working 20 hours a week.

>>37639134
The solution to all problems is

Get a job
Get a house
Lift bro lift
Go /fa/

Yeah did all that still the same

>>37639117
Well, anon. I was in a similar spot to you, and still kinda am, in some regard.

Did you ever wonder WHY is it that youre like that.

For me, it's fear. Fer of failure, fear of someone getting mad at me, fear of the unknown, fear of... pretty much anythinh.
I made up this terrible script for myself where everything is horrible and out to get me.

Thing is, it's amazing how having a slightly different outlook completely changes everything.

You only see life through your eyes. But what you see isnt all there is.

So my advice to you would be , don't wallow in yourself. Its very comfy and easy to sink inside your mind, but yoyr mind is not a happy place and it affects your outlook on life. Your psyche is im essence in the equivalent of solitary confinement.

Dont focus on the bad and try to break habits, the disarray you'll put yourself into will eventually create new experiences and outlooks on reality around you. Just try to take everything in a positive light and see reality morph according to what you make of it.

>>37639104
>>37639115
lmao good luck getting replies

are you new to /r9k/? everybody else here "makes loads online" but you ask them how they will never reply because they're full of shit

>>37638658
You work so you can be self-sustaining, obviously, and even more than that to increase your functionality so that you might actually be capable of living a life you could enjoy. Why give up on that before you've even tried? What are you so afraid of?

>>37639117
>I've never had friends, I never go out, I do anything besides goto the gym at night when nobody is there. I don't goto shops, I don't see any family besides parents (because i live with them) i dont goto family christmas or whatever.

i do all of this and i have a job.

>>37639104
Mix of things both legal and illegal. Mainly buy things for low online and resell them, I mainly operate locally. People are desperate, ignorant, and lazy. Lot of boomers around here its a way to go. The illegal part is when I don't make ends meet the month so SWIM lifts and sells addy. Oh I also bought btcs last year and am gradually selling them off, bought some ethereums idk maybe its not sustainable. Basically a lot of this and that. You need seed money for all this so I guess get a job with the plan to get out, also I live at home with parents so no rent and no need for car my expense are low af.

>>37639137
Why thanks captain obvious. I swear normie dumbfucks like you sound just like HR departments pointing out the obvious. You think you can educate me on basic bitch shit like this. I already know it all, I reject it.

Learn PHP. Thank me later.

>>37639209
have fun suffering then friendo. The entire system won't change to fit your specific needs when the majority is perfectly fine with how things are. Become a cyborg or get fucked like every other robot

>>37639115
>>37639179

There are a thousand ways to make money online and you can get paid for all kinds of things; even if you are boderline retard, you can buy and sell cheap shit and make profits; If you are somewhat competent, you can store away some of that money and invest. Nobody is going to spoon feed you but if you can shitpost on 4chan, you can use a search engine and figure this shit out for yourself; If nothing else, you can at least start to educate yourself through the INTERNET for free.

>>37639209
Thanks for the reply
Any specifics on websites to buy/sell shit? I heard someguy getting stuff through goodwill then selling ebay, I wouldn't know where to start with what kind of items to sell as well.

>>37639179
suck it niggerfaggot

>just make money online!!!

Literally how? I've always thought it was just a meme now.

Surely it's not that easy, I just see myself getting scammed and losing any money I have.

>>37639267
if the other people making money online are paranoid assholes like myself; we're not gonna tell you because we don't want more competition

>>37639267
VPS + 20 Runescape accounts + Private mining scripts

Set them up on a Friday trade all the money made to a mule Sunday and sell the gold on a monday.

>>37639267

Head on over to /biz/; Neets are becoming millionaires investing and trading in Cryptocurrencies. Although, Don't jump in like maniac and expect to become rich over night, do your research, read a book on the subject, show a measure of persistence and you can be earning more than the average undergraduate normies in a couple months. Alternatively, you can look into dropshipping or learn programming language if trading crypto is not your cup of tea.

>>37639333
This. Go to /biz/. Its one of the tiny handful of boards on this site that will make your life slightly better by browsing.

>>37638867
Spot on how i feel.

I think most normies who get handed a job at 16 dont understand what they are missing down the road. They get used to wageslavery.

Ive seen the light of neetdom and giving up all your day's energy to do something you hate is beyond me.

There should be a happy medium. 4 hours a day work so you feel productive and the rest for yourself. Anything more reserved for those lucky enough to do what they love.

Theres this cuck mentality in people that because 'my life sucks, and parents lives sucked, and their parents life sucked, so should yours!'

Meanwhile anyone who really succeeds cant stop going on about how glad they are that they didnt settle into the life of a worker drone, even though it was the safe choice.

>>37638658

A fat paycheck would be splendid, the problem is how to get projects that pay that much.

>>37638824
>I can't use public transport
Why not?

>>37639521
Can't be in crowded area especially in small crowded area.

>>37639576
> can't

** don't wanna

Why don't you want to?

>>37638911
It's for your own benefit, not someone else's.

>>37638658
99% of all people with jobs don't want to work. The threads you read about people who whoreship their jobs are either the top 1% who have high paying jobs with enough free time (the most time these people were already born in wealth, it's very unlikely that one from the middle class, even with the best grades on the best university of the world, could get that kind of job) or just lying so they don't feel too much miserable.
The thing is, we must work, we must do that so society can work as a whole. Work is almost everytime useless and you could replace even every bureau worker with a machine (not even a smart one), but we must do that.

But if you don't want to work, just don't work. There are enough people who work, one guy more that lives on wealth fare doesn't make the others more poor.

>>37639361
>giving up all your day's energy to do something you hate is beyond me
this is not what a good job is

>>37639800
>99% of all people with jobs don't want to work
please cite this outrageous claim

>>37639800
>it's very unlikely that one from the middle class, even with the best grades on the best university of the world, could get that kind of job
>what is software development

I wouldn't mind working but being around people is just too mentally draining for me.

It's so draining that I've just stop caring and leave and go back home and sleep at anytime. I can't function in day to day society with these issues.

When my parents eventually die, for me it's either work or die, I'm just gona die.

I can relate to this thread. I just don't have the energy to work personally, nor do I care to do so.

I'm already too depressed that getting out of bed most days is a fucking achievement. I want nothing out of life really, I don't long for relationships or buying a house / settling down so why would I work?

To sustain myself? To carry on living miserably and providing for myself? I can never understand how 30 year old people work 8 hour shifts at mcdonalds each day for fucking pennies and not kill themselves when they get home.

I'm 26 and recently my parents talked about what I'm going to do when they pass on etc and how I should get a job and what would I do if they kicked me out.

I told them the truth, I'd just sleep outside on the front porch, that's how little I care. It sounds edgy and perhaps even untrue but it's honestly all I would do, I'd simply lay outside until I got hungry then find something to eat and repeat.

Simply because I don't care.

>>37639907
Oh, so EVERY SINGLE PERSON who works in software development can get a extreme high paying job?
I graduated in CS, sure, we have way better job perspectives than the average, nobody from my course must an low wage job, but their is only one guy who actually get 80k+ netto for his job and that is because his uncle is the CEO of an successful company (don't get me wrong, he is very good and very competent in his job, but he wouldn't get this job if not through family contacts).

>>37639891
But it is what the majority of jobs are. If you ask most people if they would rather be at home, they'd say yes.

Certainly even a good (but not dream) job, would be much better at 4 hours a day instead of 8.

desu I dont want to work because there is no 'thing' I can buy that will make me happier

I hate society in general because I've been the victim of violent crime a few times and the police did nothing and no bystanders did anything so I just assume most people are shit and the system is a facade

I don't want to contribute to society, I don't feel I gain anything from society

All I really want is to be able to be as far away from society as possible, detached, living on a farm and by myself or with a girl who doesnt annoy me too often

It's either 0 or 1 for me, total binary, I'm either doing nothing or working to earn the $ to buy my farm so I can stop being part of society

>>37640029
>But it is what the majority of jobs are. If you ask most people if they would rather be at home, they'd say yes.

What? Normies hate being at home. The fact normies get paid to go outside is all the motivation they need.

>>37640000
Software devs usually start above average, an entry level gig can start between 45 and 60k/year. My first job out of college was 27k.

I'm a recruiter for an IT contracting firm, and can tell you if you are a US citizen or permanent resident and can pass a drug test/background che k you are far ahead of the curve.

The market is inundated with H1B candidates, companies that I recruit for don't want to deal with the hassle of sponsorship if they don't have to.

>>37640000
Pretty much. Software developers are in extremely high demand and the work pays extremely well. If you're not making 80k starting, first of all that's unusual and secondly you'll easily be making it in a year or two if you're halfway competent. I got a job doing software straight out of college and the starting salary was 98k. My buddy who got hired there at the same time I did didn't even have particularly good grades in college.

>>37640029
If you work a shit job, you do it so that you can later work a good job. That's the notion of career planning. You also do it so that you can live a semblance of a decent life, instead of rotting away in your parent's basement (who resent you) with no social life.

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>>37638658

>i'm fucking dumb (IQ is a mixture of borderline and low-average),

There's your problem Low intelligence is a disease in and of itself, low intelligence should be seen as an actual affliction since this prevents reasonable decision making, social problems, inability to plan ahead, inability or struggling at problem solving, lower expectations and general lower quality of life.

It's hard to swallow, i can't understand that intelligence isn't seen as a birth defect that should be prevented as such, as a any "just" society would prevent this, it has negative outcome for the person afflicted and the people around him, society as a whole suffers from general lower intellect.

Parents should be tested before hand, genetically, mentally and psychically, they should meet a criteria of competence in order to procreate, child policy should also be in affect.

It pisses me off, like really frustrates me that higher power does nothing to lift the masses to a higher standard, because they don't care, were just cattle and a dumb cow is more sustainable/reliable than a smart cow.

I'm dead serious higher intelligence would lead to better economy, less crime and higher standard of living.

>>37639931
>I wouldn't mind working but being around people is just too mentally draining for me.
This.
Fucking this.

My actual job is okay.
It's just having to be around people.
The feeling of relief when I get to work and find out I'll be working alone that day is probably the strongest positive emotion I have felt for years.
At the end of a day working alone, I get home and still have energy and my mood is so much better.
When I've spent the day with other people, I feel terrible by the end of it, I'm screaming at traffic on the way home, and when I get home all I can do is sit there mindlessly browsing the internet.

I have no idea how people think that getting to see people is one of the positives of going to work.

>>37640110
'intelligence' as defined by IQ has non-genetic factors and eugenics is not implemented because it violates basic human rights, not because 'they don't care'. in fact it's because they DO care.

>>37640110
>thinking you can un-ironically implement eugenics in the world we live in

It will never happen.

>>37640148
but you could implement it ironically, you dumbass?

>>37640115
>I have no idea how people think that getting to see people is one of the positives of going to work.
I enjoy being around my coworkers. They're competent, respectful, and interesting people, and some of my close friends are people I met at work.

>>37640154
>calls me a dumbass
>doesn't know you could implement it ironically

Ironically enough, yes. You are un-ironically retarted

>>37638658
I would say that you should start small (that means not going straight into a job) to ease yourself into the world of normies

>>37640188
please explain how you could 'implement eugenics ironically'. you are full of shit

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OP here.

Here's what I'm working with.

How am I going to make money online?

>>37638658
>i don't think
first off, brainlet, what you think is worth shit. So go check that shit because autismbux is your way to neetlife.

>>37638658
>Is there even any money you can make online?
yes.
You can start your own business and set up or use an existing online platform like Ebay,
you can start a Youtube channel,
You can create a website and puts ads on it
You can create a smartphone game and puts ads on it, or just sell it
There's tons of other ways to make money on the internet

Unfortunately, it takes more effort than sitting around and clicking your mouse a few times. So you will never be able to do it, idiot.

Help me out robots. I have no desire to work. I've slowly been selling off my material possessions so that all I have left are my guns, books, and clothes. I live with mommy but I'd like to move out. I've considered just pitching a tent in the woods or building a cabin out in bum fuck.

I don't have money, though. To move my shit somewhere like I'm suggesting, I'd need some sort of money, either for a moving service or to purchase a van and do it myself.

Advice that isn't
>just get a job Xd

>>37640228
Are you retarded? Literally 0.001% of people who do those things you listed ever actually make money from it.

>>37640058
Meh, maybe not at home, but off on a holiday with their significant other or friends. Same shit, theyd rather not be at work, otherwise retiring early wouldnt be such a common life goal.

>>37640089
If you get a career that you really like maybe.
Otherwise its a shit job that only evolves into shit job with more pay.

Im not getting a decent life, im a robot. 40 hours a week of misery is still misery whether you make 20k or 100k.
Might as well do the minimum possible to survive at that point.

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As someone who had no choice but to start working at age 15, fuck that work ethic bullshit. Sure I'll lie to a manager's face and say that I take pride in it, though it's fucking baffling to me how some don't see through this engineered work culture.

My plan is to either live minimally, something like a tiny home or even a fucking renovated van. I don't give a shit, I will not accept wage slavery and shitting in the woods and showering 1-2 times a week tremendously tops every blue/white collar job out there.

My dad's life utterly depresses me, it pains me to even write this but I can just see the discontentment in his face, being in his middle 50's and have spent YEARS of his life slaving away in a cubicle. I want so bad to just wake him the fuck up and say that he doesn't have to spend the rest of his life this way, but he's convinced himself that it doesn't bother him too much. But I can fucking see it, every goddamn day, when he comes home from work, immediately grabs a beer, and binge watches the latest new show on Netflix as an escape from this predicament.

Funny you should make this thread, OP, as I was JUST discussing.with gf how there is tremendous opportunity on the internet to just work from home. Buy wholesale, sell cheap, though I've hardly looked into it yet. But it's either that or living in a van in the Redwoods.

>>37640250
>are you retarded?
>posts a ridiculous, unsubstantiated claim with 'literally' in front of it
maybe you should look in a mirror

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>>37638658
6 years ago I thought to myself
>I never want to work
>I wouldnt enjoy that
>No motivation to do anything
>My life cant be about working all day
And since that day only do things that I enjoy.

>>37640276
>If you get a career that you really like maybe.
no shit, that is the goal

>Im not getting a decent life, im a robot
'robot' is a vague word and being one does not preclude you from getting a decent life

>>37640250
Please source this ridiculous claim, there's tremendous opportunity in online sales. Problem is most sellers don't know what the fuck they're doing or how to properly advertise. If you do a shit ton of research and plan carefully, you can make some money, or at least some side cash so you aren't working 40+ hours a week to make ends meet.

>>37640250
If you want to make money on the internet, you unfortunately have to take a lot of risks. It takes a lot of skill (the skill depends on your choice of activity), and possibly luck. The reason why so many fail is because there's no entrance barrier and no job interviews or anything. Anyone can do it, which means a lot of idiots do it thinking they're hot shit and can make easy money.
If OP wants easy money, he should get a job at a factory or something.

>>37638658
No matter how dumb you are, you can still get a fucking job dude. There are many jobs, in warehouses, in restaurants/fast food chain, and even some appentships like plumber or hvac are not that demanding.

And I don't really think you're dumb. IQ isn't the best measure of intelligence because it is massively affected by personal problems in your life. For example in africa people actually do score like 80, but they're normal people, many of them very smart, they're just miserable and hungry and worried about dying.

Generally speaking, you don't seem to want to get a job. A job isn't going to be some kind of ticket to paradise. But in most cases it will put you on track to improve your life and enjoy it more.

Planning on finding a cheap source of Kratom in Thailand, invest in a low-end business/whatever permits and regulations you've gotta meet in order to sell it. Then I'll hit up my local smoke/head shops in the area and try to meet with them to pitch an idea.

Basically, head shops sell Kratom, but you can get it online for $4 an ounce, even cheaper for kilos. But these head shops sell them for $50 FUCKING DOLLARS AN OUNCE. And you'd think people aren't this goddamn stupid, but apparently Kratom is their BIGGEST SELLING PRODUCT. These dumbfucks are getting ripped off and I'd like to get my products in those stores for 1/4 of the price.

>>37638867
40 hour workweek is nowhere near the majority of your life you dumb fuck

>>37640447
>1/3 life sleeping
>1/3 of 5/7 days a week working
>1/3 of 5/7 + 2/3 of 2/7 to fuck around
It may not be the majority, but it's still too fucking much

>>37638658
>Do you actually even want to work?
Yes, but preferably not some cashier tier job and having to speak to people constantly. I'd rather be dead than have a 100% social job. The main reason I'm a NEET at 26 is because I detest speaking to people (bar my family) for extended periods of time.

I'm hoping to do a carpentry course this year, with the end goal being I learn a comfy trade and don't have to interact with people all day. I'm pretty frugal so I don't need a huge wage or long working days.

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>>37638699
You sound like a fucking pussy, either grow some balls and pursue something you want to work at, get a shitty job to maintain yourself or kill yourself. I can't imagine having my parents still financially maintaining me at the age of 30.

>>37640516
>26
>carpentry
That shit is gonna fuck up yo bak man. I don't want to say you're too old, but you should have did it in your prime

>>37638867
I don't disagree but the job market is so shit and you need to survive that at this point brown-nosing these managers is the only way to make it.
I came out of an interview recently where I would be required to potentially work for over 60+ hours a week (not including weekends on rotation) and I truly hope I fucking get it. It's just the way things are unfortunately.

>>37640520
I can imagine slaving away to Senor Shecks, earring him well over what I'm making, all just so I can pay taxes and go home to sleep and share my feelings of superiority over the internet.

>>37640535
Well I need to learn some kind of trade, I can't be a useless piece of shit my whole life.

I'm also massively paranoid about societal collapse, I need something that will be in demand when shit comes down.

>>37640520
No worries, I get autismbucks and live in an apartment alone

>>37640568
>I can't be a useless piece of shit my whole life
That's quite the spook my friend. (((Useless))) is one of those words normies like to throw around that doesn't really mean much. If you WANT to do something, do it, but I can't advise doing something because you're "supposed" to do it, or to not be "useless"
It's all the same in the eye of the demiurge.

>>37638988
I had this >>37638867 same mindset and I started a business. I don't make much but I get by.

>>37639104
I write papers and journal articles for foreign students.

>>37640520
Get over it you normalfaggot fuck, not everyone actively wants to work.

You and society both can suck my big neet dick.

>>37640608
I don't want to learn a trade because I'm supposed to, I have the urge to acquire some kind of productive, meaningful skill that I can offer people in exchange for food, money or other resources. The same way that humans have existed for millenia. This is how humans kept themselves sane over time, productive goals with positive results and affirmation from the community they lived in.

I just want a comfy, humble life without having to slave away doing retarded, modern day, technological meme shit.

>>37640683
>is only alive because of society giving him free shit
>society can suck my dick

>>37640706
>his entire lifestyle is built on technological meme shit
>still calls it retarded
why don't you just go join the Amish or something?

>>37640234
>I need money
>by the way DO NOT tell me to take work ;)

goddamn it you people are fucked

>>37640706
>>37640727
What that guy said. Trades aren't old school anymore. You won't be learning it like they used to. You would be better off trying to go to a third world area or some kind of secluded community that lives like they used to.

I mean, sure, carpentry is more practical than coding when nukes go off, but if you're doing it for the lifestyle, you'll be disappointed. Skills, hit or miss.

>>37640718
whats wrong with taking advantage of something you hate?

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>>37640773
Why are you even on this board fuck offfff

>>37640718
why do you care?
i like the idea that i can decide i don't want to work anymore and still stay alive but i'd rather work and have money to enjoy life with
it doesn't bother me a all that people choose the former

Well you can wait for automation in 20 odd years to takeover then collect a basic income.. Selling stuff is a good way to earn bucks. Money is made everyday just because you don't want a job doesn't mean you can make money.. Become a criminal and reap the profits. Fuck just make money by any means possible cause this world will make you out to be a bum if. Ppl don't care how u make it as long as you have it. Jobs suck . online money is a scam. Wait it out or become a criminal or get on societies dick and fuck for that assistance

>>37638658
>Do you actually even want to work?

Nope, that's why I got a job with the federal government. $72k/year to sit at a desk for 8 hours a day and do almost nothing but surf the web.

>>37640727
>his entire lifestyle is built on technological meme shit
It's not as if I had a choice. And I'm reducing my dependency on technological meme shit as much as possible.

>why don't you just go join the Amish or something
I'm not religious, but I would like to join some small community out in the sticks maybe.

>>37640774
>You would be better off trying to go to a third world area or some kind of secluded community that lives like they used to.
That's something I've thought about. But no community is going to welcome me with open arms if I can't do anything now. Which leads me back to square one.

>>37640214
train WoW accounts and sell them

>>37638867

Employed man here.

I am sorry to say but your expectations are completely reasonable. I went through the same phase while unemployed and looking back I don't think I was being spoiled or unreasonable

The job I then found had a nice compromising screening process, basically a very short interview and then you would follow a month and a half class\training, and they would hire the top 10 of that class based on actual performance

>>37640925
>But no community is going to welcome me with open arms if I can't do anything no
I'm not fond of normie advice, but you could try. I think, depending on the community, they'd at least give you a chance. You may not start high on whatever totem pole, but you could get in. I only know of the hippy communities, an most just use an application and have a waiting list. Anything beyond that, I don't know

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>>37638658
My Stacy psychologist smirked when I grudgingly told her I wasn't sexually active

>>37639115
Save up 15-25x your yearly expenses. After that, you're retired

>>37638658
>I'm starting to feel like I don't actually want help. They want to make me a normie
The fact you put a negative implication on being normal means that you need help
>I've been a NEET since dropping out of school at 15 (I'm 30 soon)
What have you been doing for your life?

>>37640148

Well you're wrong in the near future this will happen

It's already happening on a small scale, and all the stuff about child policy is quite logical....

In china the policy was 1 child, if we are continuing to breed like dogs we will always have quantity over quality. If you honestly can't see this you are part of the problem

>>37641017
>hippy communities
That's another thing, I can't fucking stand hippies.

Thank you for the advice though. I'm probably still gonna go for the carpentry course anyway, I've always liked making stuff but have always been limited by my skill. I'd feel a lot more comfortable moving somewhere relatively isolated knowing I have some kind of skills that will help me not starve to death.

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>>37640140

They're are violating ethical rights by ignoring and allowing deficiency

How is it a right to want an deficient child ? that's completely illogical

The same people who are pro-life fall in the same boat and call this a "right"

You're the amoral one, it's completely back sided thinking, anti-abortion is the same kind of idiocy.

I'll never see eye to eye with people like you...

You're also wrong about IQ having non genetic factors but that's not surprising

There are in total 52 gene's linked to intelligence, this is from a recent study btw !

>>37640306
Getting a career you like is hard enough if you are normal.

Getting a career you like as a robot is nightmare mode unless you are proper genius.
Most careers involve dealing with people, if you arent good at that your chances for success are extremely limited. So you will stuck at the shitty end of the career, and wont get promoted to this supposed promise land of a 'good job'

>>37641055
I don't understand how chronic masturbation doesn't qualify as sexually active

>>37640834

I can't wait for budget cuts to gut people like you. You're a complete waste of my taxes

>>37638867
>t. entitled millennial
Businesses can't make money living up to your expectations

>>37641229
I'm a robot, literally on spectrum, and have a decent job. My boss loves me because I don't bullshit I just keep to myself. I fuck off a few hours a day but I'm reliable.

>>37641608
Lmao. Good luck. I work for the Navy, in a specialty that both Dems/Repubs agree needs more funding. I'm not going anywhere.

Besides, if you could even get anybody to agree on a military cut the Air Force and Army are way ahead in line.

At least your tax dollars are going to me, instead of some nigress shitting out 8 keeds.

Anyone in CS give me advice? I'm about to start a 3 or 4 year program at a university in Canada,

so far i've been studying Java and getting used to object oriented design philosophy

>>37641716
Get ready to go to school and work with some of the biggest numale faggots out there!

>>37641209
>You're also wrong about IQ having non genetic factors
you're an idiot.

>>37641716
Study hard, pay attention in class, do your homework and do it right, ask your professor if anything is not clear. Play around with different languages. And most importantly, find internships for the summers.

>>37641985

If for lack of argumentation you use name calling than frankly you're an idiot

>>37638658

I want to work more just not an office job, hate the secondary school type enviroment. Not to mention I could put in several hours of work, it being semi passable by my boss's standards meanwhile, my Chad co-worker could fuck my boss despite having zero work ethics and get a raise just because he's the pet flavour of the month.

All my problems came down to work.
I'm disgusted with people, I hate socializing. I would be fine with just minimal money and existing.

>>37641716
Be glad you get replaced by pajeet.

>>37642024
>The general figure for the heritability of IQ, according to an authoritative American Psychological Association report, is 0.45 for children, and rises to around 0.75 for late teens and adults. In simpler terms, IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics, for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. The heritability of IQ increases with age and reaches an asymptote at 18-20 years of age and continues at that level well into adulthood. Recent studies suggest that family and parenting characteristics are not significant contributors to variation in IQ scores; however, poor prenatal environment, malnutrition and disease can have deleterious effects.

https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-67-2-130.pdf
>The importance of the environment for IQ is established by the 12-point to 18-point increase in IQ when children are adopted from working-class to middle-class homes

>>37639267
amazon mturk
Have fun making $2hr but at least you're making money online, right???
>>37639328
This works, too. You can make decent money selling/flipping shit on online vidyas with valuable tradables. There are people that do nothing but buy skins/gold/etc, bot gold/etc, start a site, start building reputation, etc. You can buy virtual shit like giftcards from plebbit and flip them. Using virtual currency like buttcoins also helps to avoid taxes. There are shit you can do without having to resort to getting a shit 9-5 job doing customer support from home like a pajeet. Why the fuck am I going to tell you how to make money for only you to become my competition? Fuck off.

>>37639361
neetdom is a joke mainly because neets don't use their time on being productive and plan for the future. to survive as a neet you need to leech off someone or something. don't expect to be able to leech forever. if you can get on the bux, using all your free time learning how to self sustain by learning survival skills and prepping and save what little you have (physically, not in some bank account or paper money that can become worthless over night) goes a long way. imagine if society collapses in the next decade. imagine if a solar flare wipes out the power grid and all technology? what then? will you survive or die like 99% of the population dependent on modern tech? stop wasting all your time crying about social shit and fapping to hentai all day. you will end up just like a burnt out normie.

>>37638658
i feel you anon. even if i had a normie life (friends, gf, expensive hobbies) i simply couldn't get up and go to work every morning, work 8-10 hours and then repeat the next day for years and years. its just not worth living like that. but yes, working to support a sad and lonely life is even more absurd. the only reason i want to get a job is that i want my own house and car so i can be miserable in my own home

>>37638951
if your patient precieves what you do as "berating him for an hour" then you suck as a psychologist

>>37642402
>>37642402
OP here, I am probably over sensitive.

I get easily frustrated/annoyed when things aren't going my way in terms of whats being discussed. She seemed to want to focus on the working thing for the entire session for some reason.

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>tfw just turned 27
>still living with parents
>no job since I was 20
Feels bad man...
On the bright side, I graduate with an Accounting degree in December. I literally have nothing to put on a resume though.

>>37642159


https://www.nature.com/ng/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ng.3869.html

What's your point genetics are still linked (although not as significant as most people would believe)

Genetics are linked to intelligence, having a minor influence doesn't exclude it entirely....

I was addressing a range of significant factors that determine intellect, this includes environmental factors etc

>>37642493
>smart enough to do accounting degree
>hasn't worked in nearly a decade

why man?

if i was good with numbers i'd be doing something like that, but im just dumb/shit at everything, couldnt even pass highschool maths

i tried accounting in high-school and failed that aswell, couldn't imagine doing a full degree bout it

>>37642538
Math in accounting isn't really that hard, it's literally just addition and subtraction.
You want hard math, that's like physics, comp sci and all that other stuff.

>>37642642
>>37642642
>Math in accounting isn't really that hard, it's literally just addition and subtraction.

Its really not though. That's what everyone says.

>HURR ITS EZY BRO TRUST ME XD

The basic entry level high-school accounting stuff was impossible for me to understand.

>>37642642
Energy Engineering here, can confirm this statement.

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>>37638658
>Do you actually even want to work?
Holy shit you're a retard OP. The only reason why they ask you that is to see if they should recommend neetbux or not. You're supposed to say you can't work. Neetbux are for people that can't work. Say you can't work because you have trouble concentrating, that you're anxiety prevents you from going out in public and talking to people, that you have trouble following orders and have to have people repeat themselves multiple times, that you sleep 12 hours a day and feel like shit all the time, etc. Shit that mentally makes you unable to work since the only other people that get neetbux are people that physically can't or are actually slow-in-da-mind. The fact that you keep making shitty excuses for not working and asking here is because you sound like your typical lazy "depressed" self-aware retard. You're asking questions you already know the answers to.

>>37642694
Idk what to tell you man. Actually remembering the accounting information and foundations/rules etc. is harder than the actual math work
Maybe you spend more time on the internet than studying.

>>37642498
>all this backpedaling
You said that IQ has NO NON-GENETIC FACTORS.

just get a call centre job that lets you work from home

my friend works for amazon and they sent him a free chromebook to work from home on, he just does customer service and hands out 10$ gift cards for free

>>37642738
psychologist aren't the ones that give out neetbux retard

Is it even possible to apply for worthwhile neetbux in America anymore, with Trump in office?
Just think of all that neetbux that would've possible to get if Bernie was in office & he cut that useless military spending

>>37642738
err she knows that already

she was asking about me doing ONLINE stuff, she knows i cant work a normie job

she knows i cant drive/use public transport etc

i literally walk to her clinic (its 10 minutes walk from my house)

Be lucky you dont live in Belarus you fucking NEETs. If you dont work there YOU pay the government

>>37642864
consent in Belarus is 15 though, so the pros outweigh the cons

>>37642823
Psychologists refer you to a psychiatrist which are pretty much the same except they dump pills on you which don't help 99% of the time and you can pretend to take. Even then, when you apply for neetbux they'll refer you to their own psychiatrist that will ask you the same shit, what meds you have taken, etc. Basically a ~30 minute interview.
>>37642854
Well, have her recommend you something then. That's her job. Online jobs are a meme if you're looking to work for someone else like any other real world wageslave job. The only thing that I can think of is some sort of customer support job where they route calls and shit to you but you need to be able to talk to people.
Go see an actual psychiatrist so you can be on the road to neetbux and get back pay starting from your teenage years. 10 years of backpay and you will get about $100k. You said you've been diagnosed with a mental disorder so why are you seeing a fucking psychologist? Are you sure you're not confusing the two? Do you take medications?

>>37639763
>It's for your own benefit, not someone else's.

lol, hardly.

boss makes a dollar, I make a dime.
thats why I shit on company time.

>>37642950
I went to one of those, I can' remember which one though. They just wasted an hour of my time twice a week, talking about problems I already knew I had and took my money. Didn't know bout neetbux then though.
I've already dropped her

>>37642950
psychologist work with gp for neet bux as well

psychiatrist can do it own their own, but you dont need them for neet bux, psychologist + gp combo works as well.

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>>37642790

What i meant to say is that IQ HAS genetic factors

I misinterpreted, misread i thought you were claiming that there was > no link at all

Yes there definitely are non-genetic factors, it's a combination of course !!

I guess my lack of reading comprehension shows my genetic inferiority and my environmental predisposition to be retarded.

My bad

>>37642978
>boss makes a dollar, I make a dime.
unsubstantiated hyperbole. also, that boss took the risk and trouble of creating the company you work at so that you can just come in with no risk and earn a steady paycheck.

>>37641691
>muh money xD

kill yourself jew, you are the very problem of our society.

Is Schizoid Personality Disorder a mental disorder or a personality disorder?

The specialist I saw for a bunch of tests ended up telling me he believes I don't have a mental health issue, that I have a personality issue. I didn't ask any questions, but what does that mean?

I thought personality disorders were a mental illness.

>>37643207
>I thought personality disorders were a mental illness.

they are, hence disorders like narcissistic personality disorder.

Get a second opinion.

>>37641711
fucking damnit I want this.

>>37643207

They are obviously, i have shizoid "personality"

Personality disorders are disorders that affect your personality/behavior and therefor a mental illness

I believe it has something to do with spectrum's and such, having schizophrenia is seen as a spectrum disorder

That's a really odd question, beliefs you have no mental health issues whilst claiming you're a shizoid, i don't get it....

Definitively yes personality disorders are mental disorders, i'm kind of aggravated by your "specialist"

>>37641229
I wish I was a girl, then I could just be a librarian or something.

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fuck work, this shit is so soul crushing. And you have to be there for 40 fucking hours not including time to get ready, sit in traffic and transit time both ways. My expenses aren't even that high to warrant me working a 40 hour work week. They can be easily be covered by working hald that and still have extra spending money. I can't live like this for the next 60 years at least, I just can't. Went to school and struggled hard, got a good paying job but all i can think of is that this shit wasn't worth it. I'm not interested in starting a family or travelling or any of that other shit.
I don't want to play this fucking game anymore

>>37638658
No one fucking wants to work you dumb broad.
It's just that we have to.

>>37643464
you dont need a vagina to be a librarian.

I simply don't want to work. I'va had to jobs so far, and they only made me feel miserable. I'm currently unemployed now, leeching off my parents again. I know I'll have to find another job soon, and that makes me want to kill myself.

>>37643596
probably not, but a male librarian just seems laughable to me.
Kind of like telling someone you're a male nurse

>>37640363

Your a retard who doesn't know shit about Africa lol

>>37643864

>Your a

I'm not the guy you replied to, but it's hard to take you seriously

>>37638658
>>37638699
I really understand a lot of these feels.

After so many years as a NEET, I feel extremely unfulfilled, and of course it's combined with the loneliness of having no local friends and being a KHHV.

My mom tells me stuff like "just get a little job, start your life, etc." but even getting a minimum wage part time job is hardly something you "just" do these days. There are ridiculous barriers to entry, and everything is intended to keep non-normies like me out.

What I really want is to do something productive that I enjoy and be able to make a little money to help cover my expenses, but I just haven't come up with a way to do it. Even if I could manage to get a wageslave job, I know it would just make me more miserable and probably lead to a complete mental breakdown, just like I had every day back when I had to go to school.

The chance of finding people like me to befriend, or ever finding a compatible woman to be a girlfriend, seems too low to me to be worth going through the grueling of acquiring and working a horrible job. My parents already provide me with a home and the necessities to live, so I don't really need a job, and even though I'd like to help out financially, I know that they wouldn't want me to become even more miserable in order to do it, so me getting a terrible job wouldn't really help any of us.

I wish it didn't have to be this way, but I don't know what I can possibly do to improve things.

>>37644298
Literally anyone can get a minimum wage job. You just clip your own wings because you fear change.

>>37639164
>go /fa/
you'll go full circle and look more autistic in full rick than you did before you ever went there

>>37643886
back to plebbit
preemptive oregano

>>37641716
Dump the degree, study online, become an entrepeneur.

Not kidding btw. Either that or wageslave until Pajeet replaces u too.

>>37644366
I didn't say I couldn't do it, just that it's difficult and would make me more miserable, which would defeat the purpose in my case since we don't actually need the money and my parents don't really want me to be miserable.

>>37638658
Serious help here: Contract yourself to serve for the military for X years. No proper way out. After that you will have the discipline to get a proper life.

>>37644946
The military here where I'm from doesn't take people with no life experience, especially people with mental health history.

Also, I'm 30, the max age to join here is 32.5.

The military here doesnt just accept anyone, were not a Jew army and we have a heavily regulated military that only recruits chads and family men.