>you are not the same person you were 1 week ago, 2 weeks

>>37553398
there is no self
but the self is still afraid

>sleeping kills you
>implying dreams aren't an incredibly important part of life

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>>37553398
Dying metaphysically is not the same as dying biologically. Dumbnut.

Also 9S did nothing wrong.

Dude, Locke is baby tier. Just think about it for a second.

https://youtu.be/Fe93CLbHjxQ

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>>37553444
>he thinks dreams happen when you go to sleep, not as you're waking up
pleb

>>37553398
where the hell do all these copies of me keep coming from?

>>37553526
the infinite void of existence.

>>37553398
>you are always a present rough copy as the old "moment" you fades into the past never to be seen again
>your rough copy just seems like a childs drawing to all the 3d printed types walking around

I think it's scarier than that, OP. Any time you conceptualise yourself as "me", anytime you think about yourself as this contiguous whole, that is only a set of thoughts or perceptions or memories that take place in a split moment, and moments later you could be mentally oblivious that you were even thinking of yourself in that way previously.

However, if there's a resurrection of the dead and final judgement - then you as a person will be more truly "you" than you ever thought possible, with every single one of your actions, thoughts, potentials laid out with crystal clarity.

>>37553537
How can a void create something?

>>37553580
No idea ask the big bang and whatever place it came that probably doesn't follow our laws of physics.

>>37553571
you had me until you went into christcuck territory m8.
>>37553570
>if the parallel universe theory is true, then all the infinite (you)'s are not even (you) at all
>you are stuck being a NEET KHV, sandwiched in a finite dimension between an infinite number of "you"'s that are chads
there's only one escape anon.

>>37553596
>he thinks the big bang was an ex nihilo explosion
>he doesn't know what the big bang really is

Do you want me to lecture you on it?

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>>37553398
I'M LIKE ONE OF THOSE SHITTY 56K DIAL-UP BLACK PEOPLE JPEGS BUT HUMAN

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>>37553662
topkekarinosama

>>37553616
>he thinks he knows the origins of existence
enlighten us all

>>37553616
>he doesn't know that membranes may have caused the impact but do not account for the matter
>>37553730
Inb4 duh alluminazi's.

>he believes that time exists outside of our concept of it
>he thinks of his body and concept of self as something that is independent of the rest of the universe

why is having a solid idea of "you" important?

>>37553745
where the membranes come from goofy

>>37553762
good question

whats a self anyway cuz i sure as hell dont know which of my voices is the "real" one

>>37553745
The Branes are coming for us all

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>>37553730
>he isn't cultured in physics

The so called "big bang" is a theorical state meaning it didn't happen in real life that was proposed after seeing that galaxies are going away from each other with time. Galaxies running away from each others means the universe is expanding, getting colder, and getting less dense.
Now get back in time, and what do you get? A universe getting smaller, hotter, and more dense. Until it becomes a point with infinite temperature and density.
That's your so called "big bang", going from that point to the current universe.

However, our current theories Einstein's relativism cannot go back in time before 13.7 billion years, at which point the plank's wall for anyone interestedEinstein's theory stops working.

Today, quantum mechanics is trying to surpass that wall. A couple of theories still in work right now manage to do so, one of them starting from a premise saying that temperature cannot be infinite. Which solves the wall, in that theory.

Fun fact: There are theories about the pre big bang universe. The big bang is NOT a huge explosion that spawned from nothing. The big bang is not the atheist version of the birth of the universe.
I hope I didn't waste my time and taught a thing or two to some anons.

>>37553834
no, i read everything. but you didn't answer anything. how the fuck did existence itself come into being? we'll never know

>>37553834
harvard grad here. please kys

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>>37553398
This comic is really good

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>>37553876
>this comic unironically made me become disassociated from reality months ago
i dont want these feels right now

>>37553858
The "origin" is a self destructing concept.

If you go back in time and declare "this is the origin":
- How did that origin come from nothing? Can nothing spawn something? Literally contradictory
-There was something before, which means the origin isn't, and what was before it is the real origin. Back at square one, and reapply what I just said.

Not that I expect someone thinking the big bang is the origin of everything, then telling me to explain the origin of everything, shifting the matter of the discussion as if nothing happened to be interested in learning something.

To answer your last statement, as I said, the "origin" is a problematic concept. One solution would be saying that something existed all the time. Thus, it never was "born"But even that is problematic. Hope you enjoyed your philosophy lesson

>>37553868
Here's your (you)

>>37553946
>something always existed

this
this fact cant be gotten around. something eternal put "this" here. no manner of mind games and gymnastics will change the answer, the answer will remain the same.(( somethnig)) always existed and we came from "it" from some convoluted unknown chain of cause and effect. can you wrap your mind around ETERNITY? I can't. But this is the reality

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>>37554019
>this fact
It's not a fact you dumbnut. It's a workaround that still leads to more problems.

I didn't validate your religious beliefs, fucktwat. Even 13th century christian philosophers knew about the problem of eternity.

The problem, instead of being "the origin of existence", becomes "what is time and can eternity exist"
I really am giving jam to pigs, aren't I? At least I hope having a more intellectually challenging conversation instead of wallowing in self pity makes you feel a bit better

>>37554066
It can exist because we live in it

>>37554066
dumbdumb, eternity isn't dependent on "time". Time is a subjective construct of measurement; essentially the perception of gauging any degree of change in any given system. Obviously if you take conscious perception out of the equation "time" can become very elastic. If you aren't aware of it a million years can pass by in an instant. Eternity is the absence of time. eternity cant be measured. time is about measurement, eternity is without measurement.

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>>37554066
Fact of the matter is either SOMETHING came from NOTHING


or

SOMETHING ALWAYS EXISTED

>>37554198
So how did we pass from eternity to movement ?

>>37554162
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/226/Circular-Definition
You're not really sharp my boy.

>>37554198
And how are you assuming all of this? I'm sure you'll please me by refuting yourself.

>>37554224
Please provide something new to the "conversation" I'm doing it all by myself without repeating what I said in biaised way

>>37554066
All this shows is that mankind knows fuck all

>>37554229
thats just another unanswerable question. like asking how a thought of freewill or an intended act can trigger a chemical chain reaction in the neurological manifolds of any given organic brain and bring about a physical action. like literally how do you go from a purely MENTAL phenomenon to a purely {PHYSICAL reaction?

>>37554264
Welcome to man's first realisation. A fugly gay cunt that died in ancient greece realised that in -480 ish before our time.

>>37554246
>assuming
motherfucker anybody with basic intuition can deduce these tenets with a little common sense thought. How could you perceive anything if it weren't already a subjective mental construct? literally its all in your head and you cant prove otherwise.


but try

>>37553398
Yes, the ego is a temporary phenomenon (like verything else)

Welcome to ego death, I realized that when I was 15 and it changed my life forever

>>37554278
I don't think there is a purely mental state, every thought we have are physical reactions. We can show that in IRM. We are just big computers

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>>37554309
You clearly don't know what you're talking about, and it's sad. All I asked was the sources of your assumptions, but you proved me it was another senseless conjoncture from another underage faggot that believes he can outsmart scientists and philosophers.

Even if they rejected what you say hundred of years ago.

>>37553876
>>37553927
"your consciousness ends when you go to sleep" is babby tier. your current state of thought is only instantaneous, there never actually was a "real" consciousness, and thus nothing to lose when you go to sleep or die.

>>37553762
A reference point for any in/action or thought imaginable. There is no motivation for anything without the self

>>37554372
>physical reactions
how can you perceive "physicality" without uhhh.. whats that word? subjectivity? consciousness? its almost like physical sensation is a..PERCEPTION

>>37554374
>durr literally there wasn't anything and then a membrane and then and expansion of nothingness and then this
thats you. you dont know jack shit bitch, y\keep repeating other people's ideas

wow so many scientists on this board!

man would think you're not a bunch of losers who watch documentaries on youtube but rather really successful intellectuals lmao

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>>37554385
is there any way around this?? i don't like the idea of impermanence.

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>>37554475
eat a dicc homo.

>>37553398
Couldn't this extend to being awake as well? Didn't Stirner have the idea that man constantly rediscovers himself in every moment?

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>>37553398
>implying scientism
>implying materialism
>implying there is no underlying substance that makes you at your core like a soul
>implying there is no god and we are not all immortal

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>every time a thread dies, the (You)s of that thread die with it
>(You)s are but a transient illusion without any value

>>37553517
my dreams start the second I go to sleep

>>37554581
i know this is bait, but how could you possibly know this?

>>37554652
because I wake up every 5 minutes during sleep

>>37553398
>you are not the same person you were 1 week ago, 2 weeks ago, or 10 years ago, only a rough copy

So i have been thousands of versions of myself, and every single one had failed to get a gf?

>>37553398
>Your old save files eventually corrupt over time
>you can't remember how to get all that old stuff back anymore

[nervous sweating intensifies]

>>37553398
https://youtu.be/gGL2RergN0U
Because of illusion of personality and freedom of will

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>>37554718
>wake up
>you are handed a controller to play your favorite RPG
>you can't start a new game, forced to go to the save file from the last player
>your character looks like he got his everything randomized in the creation process
>he has a bunch of useless skillpoints and hasn't developed his charisma skill tree at all, despite being in the late game
>he's already tried and failed at a lot of the side quests
>hasn't even started the main quest, nevermind the fact the NPCs are leveled and impossible to beat
>inventory is empty
>time to grind
>after 16 hours of grind you autosave and promise yourself you'll do better tomorrow
>wake up

>>37554700
xDDDD le no gf

epic...

that feel bro!!! ahahah le virgin walk

le no gf brooo

>>37553398
Nigga thats cool, im like a robot then.

>>37553398
>"your consciousness ends when you go to sleep" is babby tier. your current state of thought is only instantaneous, there never actually was a "real" consciousness, and thus nothing to lose when you go to sleep or die.
What a relief

>>37554916
>reddit tries to fit in: the post
dude you are so edgy, nice satire haha nice memes, you said "le" that's so cringy haha dude le cringe

>>37554916
you think i enjoy it? you think I'm this way because i like it? is it fun you fucking normie? are you laughing at me with your fucking normie friends? "that guy can't be serious"?
FUCK you, fuck you so much you piece of shit

>>37555240
The reddit spacing meme is factual