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What happened to the great subcultures of the past like goths,

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What happened to the great subcultures of the past like goths, punks, hippies, etc.? Everyone nowadays is a fucking normalshit.
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past subcultures, even though kinda pathetic/funny and influenced by marketing suits, were very anti-establishment, questioning authority and in general people joined them to escape from mainstream society

today's subcultures are mainstream, worship mainstream media, authoritarian state (as long as it fits their views), they aren't rebels, they're conformists and consumers

the hippies used to question the powers that be, rebel against materialism, preach self sufficiency, today's left is basically producing conformist android slaves
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>>37405514
Oldfag here
They were all assimilated into the machine AKA the man
You can see the same thing happening to the video game industry, although this control is in its infancy
Music and art have been subsidized by the government, only government approved pieces get put into big museums
Rich people fund private art and they don't want anything that makes them look bad
There is no counter culture anymore, it has been killed
If you or anyone else is interested in a revival of counter culture please point your inquires to the FBI
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>>37405575
I mean if you look at counter culture in America it had very violent roots
The hippie movement was a rejection of the American counter culture and thought that we could bring peace through ideas
They are yuppies now
Then the punk movement came and expressed violent and anarchist ideals, and never gained much traction in society.
Then came grunge, a rejection of 80s ideals of affluence, but that was short lived and watered down to begin with
Then we had hip hop and indie, one praising death and objectification, the other bringing a watered down hippie ideal
Now we have rap, pop, and house
Nothing is counteracting the mainstream because everything is a part of the mainstream
There is no underground, there is nothing that plays against the fabric of society, because everything has been bought out
With no breeding ground, there is no counter culture, with no counter culture, there is no progress, with no progress we are left with a devoid and meaningless culture
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It depends on where you live. My city has a thriving goth/punk/metal scene. I don't bother them and they don't bother me.
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internet

you can have way more specific cliques that don't really band together physically and are much smaller so you don't really see them anywhere

and emo/scene was still pretty recent, hipsters even more so (though the term dates way back, but it does refer to something modern)
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They all technically exist still, but they're shadows of their former selves. I'm most familiar with what's happened to punk. Go on tumblr for as long as you can stand it (yeah I know, I know, but it's the easiest way to find these kinds of people, and I don't think I'm crazy for saying that tumblr is a mainstream site for peole who think they're special) and search the word "punk". You'll mostly see teenagers and college kids who think just because they shave their hair and dye it and say "death 2 cishets" that they're punk. The trashy, in-your-face-ness of punk is now "cool".

Goth, too, has lost most of its counter culture foundation, plus it's easier to make fun of now, seeing as it is familiar.

The thing that feels the worst honestly, is that all these young people act as if they are counter culture revolutionaries sticking it to "da man" when the truth is they're not at all doing so.

I don't think I'm quite articulating what I want to say, but look, point is that counterculture used to be full of legitimate rebels. Now it's full of people who think they're rebels (who aren't really), and these "rebels" are moreso agents for mainstream thought than others, because they take it upon themselves to mock or silence people with actual original and countercultural thought
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>>37405752
Hot topic fag detected
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>>37405575
>being part of a subculture
>not a conformist


They are conformists, just in an edgy contrarian way.
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punk is dead
oregu
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>>37405514
They're still there just different:
>Hipsters/Nu-males with their handlebar mustaches, think-rimmed glasses, and beards
>Hypebeasts with their Thrasher sweatshirts and odd-looking pants
>Preps who dress in vibrantly coloured polos and wear boating shoes
>Chanmwmers, the 'alt-right, and the cult of Kek
It's all there just more blended, less distinct, smaller, fragmented, watered down, etc.
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Techno was a good 'underground' culture. Raves and hangar parties were quite common.

But 'Name DJs' killed it. Just look at old footage of raves in Britain or France. Is the DJ put on pedestal ? No, just weirdos on acid dancing. Then watch a Boiler Room, see all that normies snapchating the last DJ set of Ben Klock ?

At least in France we still have some underground raves in our countryside but still.
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>>37405660
House was back in the late 80s early 90s with rave. punk's DIY ethos plus coming millennium/fall of ussr optimism plus a good heaping of drugs. But they aged out,laws undid a lot of what helped it start, and people moved from E to harder stimulants and opiates.
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>>37405954
>tfw techno will never interest you this much
https://soundcloud.com/anttisalonen/
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>>37405514

All those things still exist.

What are you going on about?

>Everyone nowadays is a fucking normalshit.

As opposed to when?

Besides, Some of the people within these subgroups were the biggest fucking normalshits there were.

So, really, you're both incorrect AND being silly.
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>>37405954
This too. Also if you listen to/view sets from old events youd hear everything together. None of this rooms for specific styles nonsense. Seconding the anonymity of DJs too. At least you still have some of that left. Here in the US its centered around festivals, it really sucks
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>>37405514
>goths, punks, hippies
>great
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>>37405752
original punk is dead
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>>37405514
We have traps, furries, and the alt-right (musically, that's vaporwave, breakcore, and more vaporwave) now. Subcultures still exist.
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>>37405752

>is that all these young people act as if they are counter culture revolutionaries sticking it to "da man" when the truth is they're not at all doing so.


That's a laugh-riot. Sounds like every 'counter culture' since the bolshevik revolution.

>point is that counterculture used to be full of legitimate rebels. Now it's full of people who think they're rebels (who aren't really), and these "rebels" are moreso agents for mainstream thought than others, because they take it upon themselves to mock or silence people with actual original and countercultural thought

You've really got some rose-coloured goggles on.

I hung out with many of these so called 'legitimate' rebels. What I learned was that I was more of a 'rebel' wearing blue jeans and a white T shirt. There was posers then, and there's posers now.

Lastly, I observerd these people never thought for themselves. They were sheep, as well. Parroting the most popular of their group, and regurgitating stuff to make them seem cool.

It was fucking pathetic actually.
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>>37406073
>None of this rooms for specific styles nonsense
This is cool imo. I don't like to be around druggies dancing on trance. Specific nights or rooms are cool. Paris is really nice about this. They just need a stronger selection and stop promoting DJs.

>Here in the US its centered around festivals, it really sucks
You should check techno record shops, sometime they got cards or flyer about underground events.
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>>37405514
All the people that would have fit into those before are now just boring normal SJW types
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>>37405955
Tell me more about House anon. All I know about it is it was started by gay black guys and germans
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>>37405514
NEETS are the modern anti-conformists, since being a normie entails being productive to society.
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>>37405514
they're still around but it mainly revolves around the category of 'youth culture', if anything
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>>37405514
I still have my hair past my dick if that helps.
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>>37405514
NEETs and black culture are the counter anon
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OP is a hipster faggot.
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>>37405514
>ywn live in 60s/70s/80s Britain
>ywn be a skinhead, punk, mod or rocker
why go on honestly
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I'd like to see more cyberpunk/goth and databenders. There are still regular goths, hippies, punks, etc. but they're kind of stagnated. There isn't really much more room for those cultures to evolve.
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Subcultures have largely transferred to the online world. Just look at memes.
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>>37405514
They were consumed and turned into commodities by marketing.
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>>37405580
FUCK OFF KOBOH
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>>37405514
because nowadays you get called a freak
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I BLAME THE BISEXUALS

THEY MERGED MLP, TRANSVESTITES, AIDSHIV, DEVIANTART INTO ONE

D I E
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>>37405514
>What happened

social medias
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>>37405954
This guy is so German he shits bratwursts.
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Punk is still around, but all the underground bands/kids are too busy shooting doping or hopping trains right now to be bothered making music. A handful of underground groups are around but mostly we are doing off due to our lifestyle choices.
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>>37407402
you post like you have schizophrenia
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>>37405672
No it doesn't stop lying to yourself. Any "punk" today will whip out their iphone an instagram their day if you follow them around long enough, then go home to watch netflix.
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>>37406428
If this post is still up this evening I'll answer as best I can. I'm just a sperg in the bible belt that is obsessed with early rave/techno/house and things related to it so if I can reply take it with a grain of salt please. In the meantime take a listen to this: https://youtu.be/4XUipCxjmmw
A music vid/documentary on New Beat in belgium ca. 1988-1990. Touches a bit on what you want to know more about. Also Amnesia House, the Hacienda, Dreamscape, Shelleys, and other sets from those events on youtube. I love how back then youd hear techno, house, hardcore, even hip hop all in the same set. Sorry for not really answering your question but Im at work right now.
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>>37405954
Just go out and have a good time.
Stop concerning yourself with the way others enjoy their nights, it's none of your business. Go outside and smoke a fag or two or three or five or a pack, talk to people.

>But 'Name DJs' killed it.
I don't think so at all.
People just approach the idea of a known DJ the wrong way.
It's not that that DJ is all that great or special, but the name is an indicator of the style and the vibes you're to expect. That's all it ever was and all it should be.

>Just look at old footage of raves in Britain or France. Is the DJ put on pedestal?
In Britain? Absolutely, MC culture is very much about that.
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>>37405514
As an oldbot who was part of those cultures in the early 2000s and late 90s, I can tell you that almost everyone in those cultures were fucking normalshits as well.

Whether you were a punk or goth or metalhead or anything, it was ALWAYS a popularity and beauty and fashion contest. It was all about who had the longest hair or the spikiest tallest hair and who had the most spikes in their jacket and who was into the most obscure bands, and it all came down to a bunch of teenagers trying to have sex with each other.

I'm not complaining, I managed to hook up with some sloppy second sluts and one or two virgins. It was great for a cyborg because you were "cool" almost by default by just wearing the right uniform and adopting the language & culture. There were lots and lots of failed normie posers though, especially in the ass-end of alternative culture when 3rd-wave emo became "scene".


These days you still have some alternative kids, it's nowhere near as much it's just that the posers were weeded out.
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>>37405954
Something that I'm really nostalgic for because I couldn't experience it was 90s Happy Hardcore ravers. It was just before my time I was maybe like 10 years old at most when that was a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix7qeLBWkm4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIvus-LWTjA

I was instead part of the late 90s nu-metal and pop-punk thing which was okay. Too much angst and edge though.
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I mean isn't soundcloud rap kind of a subculture?
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>>37407775
This is genuinely awful..
This isn't even fun like eurodance, this is just puncturing my eardrums with an unsharpened pencil awful.

"actual" hardcore is way more fun than this shit too, at least it has breakbeats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5I8tMpVKbE
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>>37405514
>>37405575
the subcultures back then were all normieshit who thought they were rebelling against something, when really they were kind of just playing into the REAL establishment's hand. I mean look at that picture, there are girls in it. That right there tells you what they were doing was controlled opposition. No girl would ever do something that's really anti-establishment, either socially, politically, or in a pop-culture sense. If there wasn't a large enough crowd already attracted to it they wouldn't be interested in it.
I myself was this way too growing up. I thought by attacking "ebil wacists" online and watching The Colbert Report when I was 15, I was challenging the status quo.
Nothing could have been further from the truth.
The only real anti-establishment culture are the people who move innawoods and refuse to participate in the system by using government services or paying taxes.
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>>37407900
>"actual" hardcore
>links a jungle track
lmaoin @ ur poser lifestyle
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Being a white nationalist is one of the few counter cultures left. Prove me wrong. You can't. In fact its so counter culture, conformists on here will get triggered by this post.
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>>37405514
>goths
>punks
>hippies
>not normies
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>>37408276
the original version is hardcore, got the links mixed up
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>tfw missed out on the emo scene just because i didnt have the balls to go out and talk to people and make friends

>tfw i missed out on fucking a QT emo girl just by being part of the subculture

>tfw i think about these things and regret them every single day
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>>37408304
Being retarded is also pretty counterculture. I'm going to die for the cause da joos downie pride.
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>>37408451
I hooked up with a 16 year old emo girl at the ass-end of emo culture around 2009 I was 25
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>>37408465
how do i send u a friend request :)
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>>37408603

tell me everything plz anon, spare no detail
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>>37405514
These are fucking worse than normalfags
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>>37407547
triggered LGBT cuck plsGO
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>>37408304
I actually agree with this idea, even though I'm not a white nationalist. It is about the most taboo and most universally demonized subculture on the planet.
>>37408465
you're kind of proving his point. you've given the "all white nationalists are retarded" rhetoric that every mainstream outlet viciously preaches. I don't agree with white nationalists but some of them are pretty smart.
>inb4 you think I'm a crypto-white nationalist
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>>37405514
>women involved
>counter-culture
The second women get involved with anything it is no longer counter-culture, if it ever truly was.
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>>37408011
this. militia men are the last true counter culture. the regular culture-makers hate them to an insane degree, and your average pleb has been conditioned bu these culture-creators to get tribally irritated at their very existence.
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>>37408679
what do you want to know senpai?

The short story is that I was working a fast food job and also still in my emo/metal/punk/alternative phase and she was the new kid that was hired and I worked with her and we got along. She flirted with me quit a lot actually.

Then she got into a fight with her parents, moved into the apartment of another guy who worked with us, and we would all hang out there and get high.

She kept flirting with me and I kept sweating bullets not knowing what to do so I eventually quit the job and went into hiding.

I was then riding the bus one and she came on it and she hugged me and said she missed me and invinted me over to the apartment, saying that coworker wouldn't be home for a few hours. She then rode my dick into the sunset and she used me as her fuck friend for a few months, she had a bunch of nice guy beta orbiters that she was cucking with me.
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>>37408940

what she looked like/was wearing and what you two got upto when you were fucking, thanks anon
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It's funny really, being conservative back then was the norm. If your conservative now it's abnormal.


Really makes you think
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>>37408304
CONSEHHHVATISM IS DUH NEWW CAUNTUH COLCHUR

IMAGINE MY SHOCK WHEN DUH MEYNSTREEM METEOR OPPOSE BREGGZIT
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>>37409086
NOITEY

FOH

P
E
R
C
E
N
T

at least he's not a mehican who's mad at himself for liking tranny porn
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>>37405580
>counter culture
What would be current counter culture? No internet?
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>>37409026
>what she looked like

Typical emo girl look. Short hair that was dyed black, constant black eyeliner, brown eyes. She had a couple of tattoos on her shoulder and back. plenty of piercings and shit in her ears but none of her face.

>was wearing

when we met on the bus she was wearing her school uniform (long socks, plaided skirt, shirt and jacket) which made my dick diamonds and when she invited me over she went to her room and changed into next to nothing really, these like cartoon ankle socks and then some sort of booty shirt and a thin shirt that just hung off her tits

> what you two got upto when you were fucking

I was/am autistic so I thought she wanted me to come over just to smoke a joint while the other dude wasn't home, so we did that. I rolled a joint and we smoked while watching some cartoons on TV. She was sitting right next to me, our shoulders and knees and legs touching.

She kept doing that thing where she would hug my arm and squeeze it between her tits and her own arms and smile and laugh and look up and say that she was so glad I was finally here and we had the whole place to ourselves.

That was when I realized she was interested in me. I'm retarded. So I thought to myself "okay well I'll just kiss her for a bit" and I did that, I leaned over here and kissed her and she pulled me in by the back of my neck and we kissed long and hard.

I figured it was just like another practice gf, then when I pulled back she was smiling and licking her lips. Then I told myself "okay well I may as well make out with her but then I'm being a gentleman and going home" so I started rubbing her arm and neck and legs, and she was doing the same to me.

Then I was really horny and told myself "okay well I may as well play with her tits" and so I just politely cuppped the bottom of her boob, over her shirt and bra, and she moaned and bit her lip, so then I went under her shirt and bra and worked her nipples and really quite small breasts.

>cont
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>>37405514
I'm guessing the internet and hookup culture, people are trying to look as conventionally attractive as possible online rather than having to have common interests like goths.
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>>37409298
Then I had her shirt pulled over her cute little cleavage and I figured "okay well I've gone this far I may as well go for 3rd base or whatever it's callled" and I slid my hand down her shorts and started rubbing her pussy, she death-gripped my dick through my jeans and then unzipped it & we gave each other handjobs for a few more minutes, just laughing and staring at each other.

Finally she said something like "other dude is going to be back at 6" or something since we were sitting in the living room right next to the door and I asked her if she wanted to go to her room, she giggled and bounced up and dragged me to her room and then we fucked with her on top.

At first I was all "oh no what I doing this is wrong no one under the age of 25 knows what sex is" but when she was naked on top of me and grinding my dick through my boxers and begging me to pull it out so she can fuck herself on it, I realised she was giving me the consent. Turns out too that she had more sexual partners than I did, even girls, and I wasn't the biggest age gap she had.
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>>37409086
>CONSEHHHVATISM IS DUH NEWW CAUNTUH COLCHUR

If there's anything that's being a mainstream rool, it's conservativism. It's a big con job by the rich to make themselves richer.
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i miss all the qt punk/emo/goth/scene/whatever girls desu
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>tfw i wore thrasher t shirts since like three years ago because i skate and now i cant wear them anymore because of all the normie hype faggots
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>>37409795
fuck bones
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>>37409795
It's now meant for Japanese lolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdY49Qi7khY
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Only people that have never been part of a subculture would consider them dead.
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>>37409830
eat a dick faggot
>>37409834
why do normies ruin everything i like
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>>37409907
>calls other people normies
>listens to failed normie bones
lmaooooooooooo
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>>37409907
>>37409834

That was actually pretty cool. Some japanese girl group with a dozen middle-aged fans isn't going to have much of a normie impact, and pop-punk shit like NOFX was already normies ruining punk rock.
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>>37409966
>pop-punk shit like NOFX was already normies ruining punk rock
what? NOFX is one of the most real punk bands there is.
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>>37409933
YOU ARE PEEVING ME OFF PLEASE STOP
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>>37409966
>that was actually cool
nigga are you retarded
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>>37409986
>NOFX is one of the most real punk bands

Is this bait?

This is bait and I'm running with it, I don't care.

NOFX is just barely above groups like Blink 182 and Sum 41. The only difference is that they have songs about drugs. They've been babby's first punk band for decades now. I was into them when I was 13-17, most alternative kids were.

They were never really anti-authority and anti-government and anti-war and pro-working class and all the things that make punk punk. They have a few vaguely rebellious songs here and there throughout their entire discography and that phase where they jumped on the anti-Bush bandwagon like Green Day did too.
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>>37405514
The mall culture died.
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>>37410105
At the beginning they were. Then they just turned into a bunch of whiny faggots. At least they had cred unlike green day, sum 41, blink, etc.
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>>37409986
God I hate NOFX. I tried listening to them once. I heard "I hate being white" or some shit like that, and that really set the tone for this cuck band. Absolute piece of shit.
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>>37410286
its because he's a jew and doesnt consider himself white. but yeah fat mike is one of THE whiniest faggots in all of music. also its called "dont call me white"
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>>37410157
They're as punk as Green Day who also vaguely sounded kind of like real punk on their first album

>>37410286
It's ironic, and also no one in the band is white I think.
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they're still around if you know where to look
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>>37407189
>id like to see more faggots
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>>37405514
SJWs co-opted these subcultures and ruined them.
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>>37410446
nope. they were a bunch of retarded fuck ups who wanted to make punk because they liked it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL0lmC7bqQ
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NOFX up till Punk in Drublic was pretty decent, however they were pretty much a pale imitation of RKL on Rock N Roll Nightmare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlN8KA1KxRw

Literally NOFX but better played
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>>37410593
this is actually pretty good. sounds like a combo of nofx and older lagwagon.
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>>37410550
Those subcultures were always "sjw", decades before sjw was ever a cool buzzword
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>>37410480
>id like to see more faggots
>so here i am
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>>37410105
it's pathetic that you think this way
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>>37411820
Why?

They're certainly punk -rock-, more pop-punk than anything, but they don't live the punk ideology. They just look it.
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>>37405514
>goths
>punks
>hippies
>NOT normie shit in their times

lmao, in another 30 years, some faggot is gonna post about how hipsters, swagfags, and dudebros were "great" subcultures.
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unfortunately the closest thing to a subculture right now is the lgbt community and the sjw's
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>>37412315
they may not be great subcultures but at least they don't get triggered over everything
I'd prefer to live on a world of edgy teenagers than in a world of politically correct teenagers
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>>37405514
When I graduated HS in 2008 I was a big metalhead with long hair, band shirts and all. There were probably 7-8 of us in the group, and there were all sorts of other alternative people around as well
>punk group of a similar size to ours
>emo group
>goth kids
>hippies
etc

I just started college this year, and I haven't seen a single 'subculture' person. I'm 27, it makes sense why I don't dress like that anymore, but I'm surprised that I don't see anyone else in a school of 30,000 18-24 year olds like that. Closest thing I've seen are people like >>37410550
describes. SJW types with really weird haircuts and dyes, but definitely distinct from a group like punks or goths, for example.
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>>37412370
haha stupid teenagers trying to make things better
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>>37407775
wow, big wave of nostalgia from my raver days (mid to late 00s)

It's funny, at those happyhardcore shows a DJ would spin something like Children Of The Night or I Can't Stop Raving out of nowhere and everyone would go berserk even though most of the people at the show (including me) were children or not even born when those songs came out.
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>>37405514
you guys should listen to lil peep
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>>37412909
>implying i dont

efrheoe
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>>37412983
<3 lil peep is my guy
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>>37409084
>being conservative was the norm
>implying half the country hasn't almost always been half conservative half liberal
most people know and care nothing of real politics just the the harsh and the soft
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>>37405514
People like you glorify these regards

They're not non-conformists. They're conformists that conform to an alternative group culture rather than the dominant one.

What's happened in very modern times is that the instant subcultures develop and become mildly popular, someone finds a way to commercialize them. When these subcultures are commercialized and develop authorities then they can be manipulated by those with the power and money.

People want to have a group that they can wear funny costumes with and attract attention. People don't want to be GG Allin and destroy their bodies while sitting on everyone and everything.
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>>37412909
peep is the goat
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>>37413018
probably going to make a lil peep thread now
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>>37413024
WHERE IS THAT FUCKING PEEP THREAD MY NIGGER
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>>37405514
They got absorbed into the SJW movement, and became the enemy they previously fought.
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>>37405514
Internet killed it all

FYI, serial killers were robots
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>>37406509
This. All the real rebels are NEETs
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the people who would have been punks 40 years ago are into extreme metal/grind/powerviolence/d-beat/etc now. they still often believe the same things and dress the same, the music is just more fringe. You can find a scene in most any major city.
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The word ''subculture'' makes me cringe. People who need yet another qualifier are all normalshits devoid of any real personality. Prove me wrong.

>>37405752
>point is that counterculture used to be full of legitimate rebels
No it wasn't, you retard.
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>>37405514
They got polluted. It was about edge, it was about looking intimidating. They wanted to look like fascists, like an army.


Now its trannys, sjw wierd quiero quad binary zumans.


Get with the times gramps, society fully hates facists now.
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>>37405514
Someone (usually wasn't even a real part of the subgroup), would commit a crime and fuck it up for everyone (Manson family, Columbine etc.)
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I still don't get it. How does listening to x music and wearing y music make you a rebel? Why does ''the man'' give a fuck?
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Subcultures like that can only exist when there isn't an internet to expose how fraudulent they mostly are.
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>>37415374
Because you're not part of the system man

You're a non-conformist

And if you want to be a non-conformist you gotta dress like us and sound like us and believe what we believe. If you don't then you're out of the rebel, non-conformist club. Go back to your life of living on other people's terms, you fucking conformie
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>YWN be Goth

Gen X'ers had it so easy. I've been listening to Fields Of The Nephilim and watching stupid shit like Underworld wishing I was 45 for months.
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>>37405954

Don't talk shit about Ben Klock, I saw him last Friday at Output in NYC and he killed it for 5 hours straight. Not a single person was recording with their phone.
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>>37405514
Now they're called genders
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>>37405514
No one in this thread knows what the fuck they're talking about.
The Alt Right is the new punk rock because rebelling is too conformist.
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I've been involved with punk and hardcore well over half of my life now, you guys don't know shit. All of these scenes are alive and doing well.

Try being part of something before making silly statements about it dying.

nofx isn't punk fuck, whoever said they were
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>what happened
they were all exploited out the ass in the 90s. corporations sucked out their life force
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>>37405575

>not ironically worshipping KEK in 2017
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>>37416495

The alt right is the alt right. When people call it "the new punk right" it sounds stupid.

I agree though
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Back then being part of counter culture actually made you a social outcast so it generally kept the casuals and posers out. Now that being a special snowflake rebel is in fashion any counter culture is quickly filled with disingenuous normalfags that don't actually care about the culture and are just looking for attention.
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>>37408940
eyyy I read this story before, nice to see you again anon.
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>>37417170
yeah i remember reading some beat generation shit and they were complaining how being a true bohemian meant you were forced to take shit jobs because being middle class or above meant you had to conform and sell you soul for comfort

but now you can be weird and no one gives a shit; you can be middle class and punk, hipster, etc.

only reasonable comparison i can think of now is having very fringe beliefs (fascist) or being some kind of open fetishist (dressing like a furry/adult baby in public)
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subkulturs are alive and well. you jut aren't involved in them. probably because you're not creative or interesting. the average robot would be a groupie at best.
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the internet and data mining / adsense has made it so that everything people are into can and will be commercialized and homogenized
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>>37418199
It's even happening with may mays
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I'm sad that the normies adopted the word nerd. The culture is still very alive and open to new people.

It's just annoying when people say they are a nerd because the played pokemon.
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>>37416508
So have I. And yes, they're alive and well, but don't tell me that the scenes aren't infested with SJWs, because they are. Not hardcore as much though, thankfully.
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I know of plenty of skinheads in my town. Some rebellious subcultures still exist.
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>>37419727

I like it when the feminists call hardcore a toxic community just cause they don't fit their retarded fucking standards.

>>37410666

nice trips satan Heh, to be frank if it wasn't for that band NOFX wouldn't have co-opted the style and Lagwagon wouldn't have sounded like that in the first place
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>>37405514
Media and the internet portrayals the past subcultures as lame, and people have learnt this and in fear of seeming lame, they conform

I can't think of a single non-political sub-culture that is alive and well today
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>>37421153
its because women can't into hardcore dancing and moshing.
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>>37408839
this whole "OH DA JOOS MUST HAVE DONE THIS" narrative is beyond tired and doesn't give off the impression of intelligence.
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>>37407591
I'm interested to hear what you have to say too. I listened to house/trance from mid 2000's onwards. My teen years.
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>>37405514
most of them grew up, and others left or hide themselves because of idiots who dress or want to act like "harley quinn" just because they are a bunch of "I'm unique and different", oh and also those faggots who try to be one of them because of current trends
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>>37407048

>ywn be an anti-racist skinhead who supports ZOG
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>>37421207
Normie women can't. There are women in hardcore.
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Subcultures still exist, they've just moved on from you. Theres been an absolute resurgence of hippy and surfer culture over the last few years, at least here in Aus.
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>>37406121
>Anime poster
>Thinks he has a voice
Really makes you think
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Ironic weeaboos seems to be gaining traction.
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>>37418199
This more or less. Sometimes I think about how a lot of bands used to have personal sites with fanclubs and messaging forums for members to use and now everyone just posts on Facebook and instagram instead.

>>37416631
Anyone that claims to be punk in this day and age is probably talking out of their ass anyway. It's been an ongoing tumblr trend to be punk.
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NEETs are counter culture and come in many different forms. You get paid to do nothing. You can do whatever you want. Spend your money on whatever you want. Don't have to work for "the man". A true NEET would spend his time and money learning how to be self-sufficient. Learn how to survive off the grid. The possibilities are endless. NEETs game the system. It works for them. You can beeurself as a NEET. No need to try to fit in with anyone or be a poser. No need. Once you have learned how to sustain yourself, you no longer need NEETbux but you take it any ways because fuck the man. The path of true enlightenment is NEETdom.
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>>37412520
>2008
This is weird to read because I graduated hs in 2010 and I would tell other people that my sophomore year was the last time I saw anyone in school that listened to metal (and had the hair, the shirts etc). After that there were a handful of scene kids and that was it.

The goths also left that year, too.
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>>37423107
Anti-racist punks always make me laugh

It's kind of like straight edge punks

>We're hardcore and Counter culture but if you think it's cool to be reckless and intolerant then you need to quiet down please
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>>37405954
British hangar rave from 1989:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=648UkmmTG5w
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>>37405514
>What happened to the great subcultures of the past like goths, punks, hippies, etc.? Everyone nowadays is a fucking normalshit.

Mages lost and the Technocracy won.
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>>37405575
Edgy anti-establishment subcultures of the past were legitimately just a bunch of no-lifes sitting around smoking weed and living out of their vans. It was straight up degeneracy.
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>>37405514
The internet exists for them to vent their frustration at the world.
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