Psychological Issues #65

Hey Nick. How are you doing today?

>>37105890

Tired. It's raining.

You?

Why is cuckold porn so popular now?

>go on xhamster
>half the top videos are interracial cuckold

>female choice tab
>interracial cuckold
>bbc

>>37105925

I wouldn't put much stock in those stats.

>>37105925
>go on xhamster thinking you are trolling
>you're actually right

You have to remember that the girls who look at porn are fucking disgusting and no one would go near them, not even black men

What women do you know would actually even rate videos on porn anyway? Think of what a female porn aficionado would look like

>>37105915
Good. Kinda less angry than yesterday. At the moment anyways.

I just gotta find a way to be less angry, it's pretty difficult.

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>>37106028
good point, i spent too much time thinking about the bbc overlords

>>37106028
>You have to remember that the girls who look at porn are fucking disgusting

I disagree with this. But you're exactly the reason why all the other girls never mention looking at porn.
>>37106028
>Think of what a female porn aficionado would look like

I know exactly what they can look like, and cute as fuck isn't beyond the realm of possibilities.

>>37106041

What methods do you try to get less angry?

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Evening, folks.

>>37105915
>It's raining.
Here as well. It's comfy.

>>37106113

These gifs are amazing. I had a collection on my old computer.

>>37106104
Other than self-harm.

Mostly I try to think rationally about things that make me angry. Like inferiority. It's difficult though, knowing that my inferiority is very limiting to me. Lately I think it might not be so limiting, but only way I can explain is in quasi-mathematical way.

>>37106067
>I know exactly what they can look like, and cute as fuck isn't beyond the realm of possibilities.

How do you know though?

>I disagree with this. But you're exactly the reason why all the other girls never mention looking at porn.

Girls don't mention it because they are stupid like that. I knew a girl who was terrified of showing her feet to anyone, that's exactly the kind of retardation girls have to put up with.

Infidelity is inherent in all women, but if you marry a woman who likes blacked and cucking you have only yourself to blame if she cucks you.

>>37106168
Music's good there sometimes

At least for me

>>37106178
Do you not like women or something?

Grouping such a massive section of society like that is always gonna make you sound ignorant

>>37106168

We've been down that road many times before, but I still don't see what your inferiority is.

>inb4 there's always someone better at something

>>37105759
I don`t fucking know what I`m supposed to do.

I had another psychological breakdown today. I hid in my wardrobe because I felt a man walking around in my apartement made out of bugs. Didn`t see him, but after a couple hours he disappeared and I could come out again.

I am on a lot of pills, they don`t work but my psychiatrist doesn`t know that yet. I tried a lot of different pills before that and they didn`t work. He says that if these don`t work I have to be committed to a hospital again to give me real hardcore-pills. I don`t fucking want to go back to the looney-bin but I also don` t really want to lie to my psychiatrists any longer. What do?

>>37106304
>Do you not like women or something?

No I don't dislike women.

>Grouping such a massive section of society like that is always gonna make you sound ignorant

Well I am speaking in generalisations. Women cannot control their emotions and are more likely to yield to temptation, therefore that is why they cheat more, why they are worse bullies etc. they can't help themselves.

However if you're a man you need to sort yourself out and have your wits about you when it comes to getting involved with women. There are great ones out there I'm sure it's just about meeting them.

>>37106178
>How do you know though?

Do I have to spell it out for you? I've been with women, and I have female friends, and I know things. All the women I know who use porn don't stand out from other women, and none is a subhuman person as you seem to think. Most are highly intelligent and otherwise romantic.
>>37106178
>Girls don't mention it because they are stupid like that.

Don't you think they don't mention it because of reaction like yours? The slut line is very near for girls, and that's why they don't go anywhere near it. Even I don't mention porn in any kind of conversation, so I imagine a woman would do so even less.>>37106178
>I knew a girl who was terrified of showing her feet to anyone, that's exactly the kind of retardation girls have to put up with.

You seem unaware of bodily issues and how they express themselves. Feet are often ugly or perceived as such, and so they're a weak spot for many.

>>37106178
>Infidelity is inherent in all women,

This isn't true either. That statement would sound truer if you said it of everyone, but even then, it wouldn't be true. My LO had always been faithful to me and would have remained so for our entire lives; I have no doubt about that.

Also, fantasies and reality are very different, and fantasies are often better liked as such than as realities.

>>37105915
Hey Nick. Just stopping by to say hi, and I might stick around for a bit.

>>37106433

Tell your psychiatrist; if you don't like him, get another, but tell a professional. Your case is too extreme to be left unsupervised.

>>37106385
Not being tall, hung, great looking etc. That's my main inferiority. Anyways, just ignore me. I'd be repeating myself. Whenever I try to formulate any counter argument against my viewpoints I inevitably end up deleting it realizing it's bullshit.

>>37106548
I feel like this convo isn't really relevant to this thread but I have to say that I disagree with that almost totally

People are people, I'm definitely less in control of my emotions than most of my female friends

I am a bit of a leftist tho

>>37106178
Well, I'm in a fine relationship. My girlfriend knows that if she cheats on me, I'll kill her.

Hey haven't posted here before but I want opinions on this problem I have

All I fap to now is voyeur porn. Hidden cameras and such. It worries me because I couldn't even fap to vanilla even if I've tried. I'm worried that I might not be able to get it up if I try to fuck a girl because I don't even think about fucking them anymore.

Could some therapy help myself out?

>>37106548
>Women cannot control their emotions and are more likely to yield to temptation,

I can't agree. Some women have issues that makes things less controllable and temptations more tempting, but I myself share that condition, and I don't see myself as a foolish irrational weakling, or a child.
>>37106548
>therefore that is why they cheat more, why they are worse bullies etc. they can't help themselves.

None of that is true. I doubt they cheat more, or are worse bullies. And they sure can help themselves given the right solution.>>37106548
>However if you're a man you need to sort yourself out and have your wits about you when it comes to getting involved with women.

You say that, but it seems the only women you get involved with are utterly insane.

>>37106548
>There are great ones out there I'm sure it's just about meeting them.

>I'm sure

You know what they say: when every woman you're interested in has issues, you do too. So no, it's not about meeting them, it's about being sane enough yourself that you attract, and are attracted by, the right people.

>>37106567

Hello Eh, do stick around.

>>37106573
>Not being tall, hung, great looking etc.

You're my height, you goddam height denier. As to not hung, I'm sure your penis is 20 cm long and you think it's too small because stupid reason X and Y.>>37106573
>I inevitably end up deleting it realizing it's bullshit.

Good, that's therapy right there. Now figure out why you resort to these nonsensical ideas. Do you need excuses not to try living?

Would you rather feel unlucky than untrying?

>>37106623
Feel free to not answer but I feel like this is relevant

Are you a virgin?

>>37106626
I'd agree with anon slightly more. Women can't really control themselves when it comes to emotions. It socially encouraged for them to feel, and they're allowed to let it control them. Women mostly run on feelings and intuition.

>>37106694
Okay, I will. I always enjoy these threads anyway.

>>37106607
>Well, I'm in a fine relationship. My girlfriend knows that if she cheats on me, I'll kill her.

That's not a fine relationship. Also, to get cucked only to then get yourself a few decades behind bar, for someone who betrayed you, is it the most dense thing you could come up with or do you have a more stupid reaction to suggest?

>>37106623

Sounds like the strict definition of a fetish, when it's all that gets you excited.

Maybe there are psychological reasons for that obsession. Can you think of any?

>>37106694
>You're my height, you goddam height denier. As to not hung, I'm sure your penis is 20 cm long and you think it's too small because stupid reason X and Y.
Taller men are seen better. I'm not tall.

>Good, that's therapy right there.
It's really not. Whenever I try to figure out reasons NOT TO be angry, I end up deleting it thinking it's bullshit.

>Would you rather feel unlucky than untrying?
I'd rather feel lucky.

>>37106733
That's pretty mean, but I don't really care. I'm not doing anything out here anyway. It's either death, or I ruin her family.

>>37106784
Would you do anything if she ended your relationship?

>>37106699
>Women can't really control themselves when it comes to emotions.

Having zero empathy doesn't actually make you knowledgeable on what others feel. You can only observe external signs, but that's not always enough to know what's going on inside.

>>37106699
>It socially encouraged for them to feel, and they're allowed to let it control them. Women mostly run on feelings and intuition.

You guys are insane. I mean, the other way. Women aren't encouraged to feel, as emotions can often lead to conflicts, just as with men. And they're not allowed to let it control them, do you even work?

As to women running on feelings and intuition alone, seriously? If women did that, your girlfriend would have left you a long time ago.

>>37106733
So she gets to humiliate him and get away with it? Or do you have a more spineless reaction to suggest?

>>37106825
No, I don't really care. It's only the fact that she suggests that she can get away with that atrocity.

>>37106755
>Taller men are seen better. I'm not tall.

Says who? Tall men are seen as taller. Not everyone wants a partner who can be seen in a crown 200 meters away, by everyone.
>>37106755
>It's really not. Whenever I try to figure out reasons NOT TO be angry, I end up deleting it thinking it's bullshi

It is good to delete that stuff, because it IS bullshit.

>>37106755
>I'd rather feel lucky.

That wasn't the question. I'll take that as an admission of you preferring to have excuses.

>>37106874
>Not everyone wants a partner who can be seen in a crown 200 meters away, by everyone.
Actually as it turns out, women more often than not DO want a partner like that.

>It is good to delete that stuff, because it IS bullshit.
Did you read it correctly?

>That wasn't the question. I'll take that as an admission of you preferring to have excuses.
I just don't see why I should have a harder time at anything due to things out of my control.

hello I am new to these threads, I have an issue that makes me disinterested in personal relationships and I find myself distancing from people whenever things get too personal or we are considered friends, this process gets fast-tracked if they ask me about my feelings but I have no problem discussing theirs and do my best to be understanding and friendly. How do I get over my fear/dislike for personal relationships? It has ruined the majority of my friendships as I eventually become extremely self destructive and do really shitty things to purposefully ruin the relationship or make people feel less "chummy". I haven't been officially diagnosed with anything, am I just an edgy autist? Please help.

>>37106784

It remains stupid. For someone who says women are mostly emotional and all that stuff, you're the one acting like a histrionic toddler who'd rather destroy his toys than have them stolen from him.

You'd deprive yourself of freedom for a tantrum. You're not allowed to say other people run on emotions and intuition anymore.

Your rights have been removed. You also get a consolation prize in the shape of a buttplug to calm you down when you get hysterical. It's a special buttplug that delivers the best ganja anally.

>>37106826
>zero empathy
I know the agony others feel. You saw my depression.

>women aren't encouraged to feel
When a woman's crying she's tended to. When a man's crying he's a pathetic bitch. That's how people see it.

>>37106830
>So she gets to humiliate him and get away with it? Or do you have a more spineless reaction to suggest?

One would need the reasons for her betrayal first and foremost. Not all betrayal is the same.

Also, when you betray, you humiliate yourself, not your partner.

>>37106830
>Or do you have a more spineless reaction to suggest?

Yes. If she betrays you, she doesn't get away with it. If you leave her, she loses the best she ever had (unless your self-esteem is shit, in which case, getting cucked is the least of your worry).

had a good talk here with "An Fucking Hero" yesterday after everyone left I guess.
Btw hello

I'd write about it again but it seems kinda pointless to repeat.

But I could use some help with one thing that just happened a while ago.
As I said yesterday, I really hate people, mostly just happy people and come to think of it everything else too, myself included.
But I still have a bunch of fucked up friends that I like to keep around.

Me and my friend bought a shitty game on steam to play together from time to time while not studying, and we have a shitload of studying right now so we always take a brake, call and play for a few hours.
But today, I asked him if he wants to play, he said yes but later and hes playing the game we bought with other one of his friends.
And this happens to me too, after we played pretty much every day for almost a week so I shouldnt blame him for wanting to get together with his other friend for a while.
But for some reason this makes me incredibly angry and sad at the same time and I dont even know why. I hate poeple but fall apart when someone leaves for 5 minutes.

Does anyone have similar problem?

>>37106915
>Actually as it turns out, women more often than not DO want a partner like that.

You pulled that one out of your ass again. No matter how tall your man is, you'll still have to kneel to suck his cock. (There's a new proverb right there.)

>>37106915
>Did you read it correctly?

I thought you were talking about your nonsensical reasoning. I'm too optimistic.

>>37106915
>I just don't see why I should have a harder time at anything due to things out of my control.

Do you see why you should have an easier time due to things out of your control? Some people are born without legs, do you see why you should have an easier time than them? Do ya?

>>37106963
>Also, when you betray, you humiliate yourself, not your partner.
No. She humiliates him by leaving him for someone better (usually luckier, taller, etc).

>If you leave her, she loses the best she ever had (unless your self-esteem is shit, in which case, getting cucked is the least of your worry).
Well, unless you are extremely great at almost everything there is, you'd be a retard to think that you're the best she's ever had. She can always find someone taller, with bigger penis, more money, etc.

>>37106929
It's that a guy takes something from me. The girl is defying me. She's fucking with me, and she deserves it for fucking with me. I gave her a fair warning. She should have just left.

>>37106928

Sounds Borderliney to some degree.

Do you suspect your friends of having bad intentions?

>>37106953
>I know the agony others feel. You saw my depression.

You know your agony, and even that one you're not fully in touch with. You can barely empathise with yourself, Eh, let alone others.

>>37106953
>When a woman's crying she's tended to. When a man's crying he's a pathetic bitch. That's how people see it.

This isn't true.

It depends on what sort of man you are, but when I faint in public or look sad and hurt, women tend to be very concerned and go the extra mile to help me.

I've never been considered a pathetic bitch for having water come out my eyes. A man with an emotional range is generally quite appealing to women, because they realise he will understand them.

Some men may claim to despise emotional men, but that's because they understand such men are threats. Being fluent in emotions gives you the keys to the kingdom of women. In the land of the vaginas, the one-dicked man is king.

>>37107021
>You pulled that one out of your ass again.
Do you really want me to go to google and find one of the many studies proving that women DO care about height? Hell even if we leave studies, have you ever talked to a woman? I mean I get it, your LO and shit, but real women DO care about height a lot. I saw my coworker call her soon-to-be husband short, because he's about 5'10". And she's not some trashy poor whore. She is going to marry him, but still she will openly claim he is short with a very clear disappointment in her voice.

>Some people are born without legs, do you see why you should have an easier time than them? Do ya?
I fail to see the relevance here. Just because someone gets even worse hand, that means I have to be happy getting a shitty hand?

>>37107008
Now that I read it again, It seems Im just bitching over nothing.

Maybe the yesterday talk about going to therapies and start taking medications just fucked me up a bit.

>>37107008

Attachment issues, Borderliney anxiety about separation.

You weren't raised properly, like myself. Anyone leaving you makes you have a small flashback to your early years, triggering intense fear, and as a child, being abandoned means dying, so that fear is very potent.

Teach yourself that your friends will come back to you, they aren't gone. You can do it rationally, but do understand why your emotions are so strong. It's not your fault.

Analyse your own feelings and understand them in context; they'll be easier to manage once you know it's ancient trauma that tortures you.

>>37107039
I would be lying if I said I havent had those thoughts previously but they are not a common thing, I always take it into consideration when something happens but I can outrule my friends having any part in what I suspect them of doing when provided with enough evidence or if it just sounds down right retarded to be accusing them of that. My mother was clinically diagnosed with BPD and I lived with her for 16 years if that makes any difference. Also I switch between extroverted and introverted on a monthly basis, I'm not sure what that means.

Thanks for helping me out here, I want to figure out if there's actually something wrong with me or if i'm just being edgy and I thought who better to ask about mental illness than the mentally ill, right?

>>37107085
>You can barely empathize with yourself, Eh, let alone others.
That's a pretty good point.

That last part is pretty funny, but I don't agree. A man is more attractive when angry, not sad.

>>37107029
>No. She humiliates him by leaving him for someone better (usually luckier, taller, etc).

That's sad, but there's no humiliation. People don't go for "better", they go for "matches me more." You don't know that because this requires empathy to a degree you are not capable of yet.

You only see what everyone else sees: height, dick size, tits size, etc. But you seem oblivious, or, rather, ignorant, of the chemistry between two humans. I'd not go for the "objectively" best female out there, I'd go for the one that makes me vibrate when she looks at me.
>>37107029
>Well, unless you are extremely great at almost everything there is, you'd be a retard to think that you're the best she's ever had.

Absolutely not. I've lived it.

>>37107029
>She can always find someone taller, with bigger penis, more money, etc.

See the above, you only see the "objective", which means very little. The woman you insulted in this thread, who I fear is dead now, is madly in love with a man I can only describe as butt ugly, emotionally retarded, and probably short-dicked to top it all. Those things don't matter as much as you think. You're obsessed with this stuff, but really, they're not that important.

You seem to have zero understanding of how love works, like a literal robot trying to emulate the heart of it all.

>>37107037
>It's that a guy takes something from me.

Then you should punish the guy, not her; but even then, she isn't your possession. She can do as she pleases, like you.

If she left you, I doubt your reaction would be much more "masculine", to use your own terms.

>>37107140
i dont know man.
Gotta admit, my relationship with my parents isnt all that great. Always felt kinda disconnected with them but it's not like they didn't take good care of me, hell they still do, as I said Im still studying and they still have my back.

But on the other hand, my best friends leaving me really fucked me up for a long time, still remember the bastard. Thought we would stick together. But really, everyone gets sad about this, nothing special here.

>>37107202
I agree with you about the part where you don't have to look good to get a good looking girl, but you have to be pretty damn funny to make up for it.

>>37107090
>Do you really want me to go to google and find one of the many studies proving that women DO care about height?

Studies aren't the new Bible. Do you want me to find studies proving that smoking is great for the health? Because I can find that too. It proves absolutely nothing.
>>37107090
>Hell even if we leave studies, have you ever talked to a woman?

Boy, have I. Let me see: I spent 8 years studying literature in classrooms filled with women, at a ratio of 80% at least; more often than not, I was the only man. Same thing at my work place, where, very often, I'm the only man, or one of very few men. So yes, I speak with women a lot and have done so for years. Most of my close friends are women too.

>>37107090
>I mean I get it, your LO and shit, but real women

She's a real woman, there's no argument there. All the other women I speak with are real women too. That point of yours is much more stupid than you realise. Who are the "real" women you converse with regularly, if I may ask? You think the studies you read on Google count more as "real women" than the women I speak with.

>>37107090
>I saw my coworker call her soon-to-be husband short, because he's about 5'10". And she's not some trashy poor whore. She is going to marry him, but still she will openly claim he is short with a very clear disappointment in her voice.

You don't seem to realise that if it was a major disappointment, she wouldn't mention it at all. She does mention it because it's not all that important and it doesn't matter, which is why she's marrying him anyway, a point you don't highlight when you should.

You are deluded beyond belief, my faithful friend.

>>37107090
>I fail to see the relevance here. Just because someone gets even worse hand, that means I have to be happy getting a shitty hand?

The point is: you ask yourself one side of the question, but not the other. Why is that? Are you afraid to see you are actually lucky as well?

What's to complain about in your life? You get to eat, sleep, have access to safe water, you can use TP and all the great stuff that modern life has to offer. What are you complaining about again?

You could legitimately complain about your mental issues, but you never do that, you only complain about the outside world. Your problems are inside, not outside.

>>37107137

Meds won't work for you. You're not bitching and it's not nothing.

Value yourself, what you feel, your problems. Making small of them won't accomplish anything except despair and low selfesteem.

>>37107202
>But you seem oblivious, or, rather, ignorant, of the chemistry between two humans.
I am well aware of that. Believe it or not I have been, well I'd rather not use the word love. I've been infatuated by women of very, very different looks. Some thin, some ... not so thin. Some short, some tall. Some beautiful, some according to my friends so ugly they wouldn't piss on them if they caught on fire. They were all very attractive to me.

I just think this "chemistry" is nothing but a rationalization. If someone better comes along, she will go for that guy and claim it was "chemistry". I find this to be nothing but a rationalization. If you are somewhere out with your girlfriend and someone who is better than you in every single way wants to take her, chances are he fucking will. Nothing you can do about it. Trusting women not to open their legs for the men with the best genes possible? Don't make me fucking laugh. It's all about the genes. We just call it "chemistry".

>Absolutely not. I've lived it.
Good for you. But the measuring tape doesn't lie. There were men who were better than you, there are man who are better than you.

> Those things don't matter as much as you think.
If this was the truth, then you wouldn't have attractive and tall men having more success in dating.

>You seem to have zero understanding of how love works, like a literal robot trying to emulate the heart of it all.
Yeah, well that wouldn't be so surprising, now would it. I've spent my whole life emulating most things.

>>37107172
>My mother was clinically diagnosed with BPD and I lived with her for 16 years if that makes any difference.

It does.
>>37107172
>Also I switch between extroverted and introverted on a monthly basis, I'm not sure what that means.

Potentially bipolar, depends on whether something triggers those changes or not.

You're not just being edgy. You definitely have something going on.

As to asking the mentally ill, just being ill won't do much; it's the lucidity and knowledge that does the trick.

I don't define myself as mentally ill, no more than I would say I'm physically ill because I sometimes get the flu.

>>37107175
>A man is more attractive when angry, not sad.

Unless you're a raging homosexual, how would you know what a woman finds attractive?

An angry man looks like a hysterical bitch most of the time. I don't see why you'd think one type of emotion is negative and the other not. Crying or getting angry is not that different. I've done both. Again, I think either will look appealing depending on many other things, not just in themselves.

>>37107260
>Thought we would stick together. But really, everyone gets sad about this, nothing special here.

Strong reactions are special and have causes.

If your parents had taken good care of you, for real, you'd love them. Food and shelter aren't all a child needs.

>>37107312
>Do you want me to find studies proving that smoking is great for the health? Because I can find that too. It proves absolutely nothing.
So are you saying that tallness in men is not considered an attractive trait? Or what are you saying exactly?

>You think the studies you read on Google count more as "real women" than the women I speak with.
They do. The studies have many more women participating. Also, women lie. Women hide their true intentions. Women don't speak the truth. They will usually not bash their husbands/boyfriends if they don't have a batter alternative lined up.

>She does mention it because it's not all that important and it doesn't matter, which is why she's marrying him anyway, a point you don't highlight when you should.
Point is, she openly mocked him for it. And by mock I mean she mentioned it. That much is enough.

>>37107358
>What are you complaining about again?
I could have been born tall, great looking and well-hung. I could have been much more confident and succesful due to these advantages. I could have achieved so much more.

Just because I don't get beaten every day doesn't mean I should be okay with getting beaten once a week. Don't take this literally.

>>37107175
>A man is more attractive when angry, not sad.
If anything it's the other way around. Moping, or depressed looking men are rated more attractive by women in general than men showing other emotions.

>>37107386
>Believe it or not I have been, well I'd rather not use the word love. I've been infatuated by women of very, very different looks. Some thin, some ... not so thin. Some short, some tall. Some beautiful, some according to my friends so ugly they wouldn't piss on them if they caught on fire. They were all very attractive to me.

Again, it's only ever physical with you. You don't seem to give a damn about a woman's personality, so you end up with a 12-year-old vision of women.
>>37107386
>I just think this "chemistry" is nothing but a rationalization.

No, Dan, it's what adults experience in relationships. You seem stuck on teenage mode.

>>37107386
>If someone better comes along, she will go for that guy and claim it was "chemistry".

You don't believe in having more chemistry with some people than others? I've lived it, believe it.

>>37107386
>If you are somewhere out with your girlfriend and someone who is better than you in every single way wants to take her, chances are he fucking will.

There was zero chance of that in my relationship. Simply because no other man was me. It's not just about good looks and other skills, it's also about who you are to someone and who they are to you. Once you're engaged, going to the future together, you become a team, and that's sacred. If you're loved, she won't leave you. Relationships that span decades exist.

>>37107386
>Nothing you can do about it. Trusting women not to open their legs for the men with the best genes possible? Don't make me fucking laugh.

Not every woman wants to have children. Why do you think yourself such an expert on women when you admit you don't know them personally? This is baffling and highly illogical, the very kind of "emotional and intuitive" bullshit you were accusing women of moments ago.

Besides, in case you don't notice, talking like this will not get you any respect from women, as it should be. You can't shit on them all the time and expect them to like you.

>>37107430
Then maybe i really am screwed up in the head because there is really no reason to be angry at my parents. They always cared about me very much
The thing is that I am the one that just cant get to feel attached to them.

>>37107230
No, she decided to do it, they both get the ax. I never said masculine either. Unless I have a shit memory.

>>37107386
>There were men who were better than you, there are man who are better than you.

At what? Nobody is just better, you're better or worse at something, never in the absolute. Again, it's not a context, it doesn't matter. You don't need to be the best, you only need to be a match for someone who is attracted by you.

Once that match happens, you're on.

I hope you realise what a downer you are for a woman, though. If I were female, holy fucking hell, talk like yours would seal my vagina shut for 10 hours straight.

>>37107386
>If this was the truth, then you wouldn't have attractive and tall men having more success in dating.

Dating, anyone can do. Finding the right person is more valuable and those men aren't necessarily more successful at this, especially if they were chosen for shallow reasons. You always rely on half-assed stats and data you never doubt if they go your way.

>>37107519
>Again, it's only ever physical with you. You don't seem to give a damn about a woman's personality, so you end up with a 12-year-old vision of women.
Yeah well that's why I mentioned the one who was considered "ugly" but I was attracted to her. Because she was fun to be around.

>You don't believe in having more chemistry with some people than others? I've lived it, believe it.
I believe that factors out of your control like height or looks are a big part of the chemistry.

>If you're loved, she won't leave you. Relationships that span decades exist.
Why would you be loved if there is someone out there who is better than you and she can get him. Also just as relationships that span decades exist, divorces and nasty breakups also exist. I don't believe I need to mention the divorce statistics, do I?

>Besides, in case you don't notice, talking like this will not get you any respect from women, as it should be. You can't shit on them all the time and expect them to like you.
I'm gonna stop shitting on them when they stop discriminating against me based on things out of my control.

I mean the shit you have said. It's exactly the positive delusion that most people maintain so they don't go crazy from the truth. Like I did, I guess. Then again maybe I was never sane, doesn't matter.

>>37107460
Dont want to get in your chat here but as a tall person i'd just like to say it mostly doesnt mean shit. I know lots of short guys who are much more attractive to women. Studies may say it different but at the end of the day noone gives a crap.
My 196cm has been fucking nightmare for me. Being two heads taller then your girlfriend is not really that great

>>37107567
>At what? Nobody is just better, you're better or worse at something, never in the absolute.
Some things are more important than others. You can work your ass off, but when you're 5'6", than disadvantage isn't going away. Nuh-uh.

>I hope you realise what a downer you are for a woman, though. If I were female, holy fucking hell, talk like yours would seal my vagina shut for 10 hours straight.
Well, blackmail by pussy is common. Women enforce behavior they consider good by providing (or not) access to pussy.

>Dating, anyone can do. Finding the right person is more valuable and those men aren't necessarily more successful at this, especially if they were chosen for shallow reasons.
It gives you confidence and experience both of which are very important in finding a real partner. Once again, Chad wins.

>>37107460
>So are you saying that tallness in men is not considered an attractive trait? Or what are you saying exactly?

Dan, stop acting foolish. If you spent time listening to women, you'd know better. Being tall is more attractive than being short, but neither is as defining as you believe. That's the point you miss:

attractive =/= mandatory condition to get together
>>37107460
>They do. The studies have many more women participating. Also, women lie. Women hide their true intentions. Women don't speak the truth. They will usually not bash their husbands/boyfriends if they don't have a batter alternative lined up.

That's where you cross the line into insanity. When dealing with a woman, you're not dealing with an average based on thousands of them, you only deal with one of them, so only what she likes and thinks matters. Just in case you were going to go for one of your favourite fallacies, the anecdotal crap. Every relationship is "anecdotal", that's the nature of it.

Given what you think of women, why don't you go homo, my friend? Such hatred for women (which they absolutely will feel from you) is so profound, you might as well give up on pussy forever. Embrace the hairy anus, my friend. >>37107460
>Point is, she openly mocked him for it. And by mock I mean she mentioned it. That much is enough.

So she didn't mock him, she mentioned it and you assumed it could only be mockery because you're super sensitive about that, since you feel short yourself.

On their honeymoon night, they'll be making love, not caring about height one second, while you'll be angry, on your own, feeling small, when you're my height.

>>37107622
I'm not gonna fall for your trolling.

>>37107460
>I could have been born tall, great looking and well-hung. I could have been much more confident and succesful due to these advantages. I could have achieved so much more.

So? Everyone else can say the same shit. What does it do? Nothing. I could have been born to a great family with sane parents, I wasn't, so that's that. Nothing I can do about it now, so why waste time and energy on it? It's illogical, emotional, the exact behaviour you despise. Are you a fucking woman, Dan? Shall I call you Danielle now?

>>37107553

Parents might be narcs. I know exactly how that feels. If you can feel attached to other people just fine, then yeah, narcs.

>>37107691
Wow, 79 posts before "your parents are narcs." I think that's a new record.

>>37107561

Why should he? It's not his responsibility what she wants to do, is it?

You didn't say "masculine" but you used similar terms.

Nobody deserves to die because you're upset.

>>37107662
Im being dead serious. It really is not something great

>>37107652
>Every relationship is "anecdotal", that's the nature of it.
Wait so we throw out any general patterns, because you will at most be dating a few women at a time? It's still a fact that height and attractiveness gives you an advantage.

> Such hatred for women (which they absolutely will feel from you) is so profound, you might as well give up on pussy forever.
Yeah I hope they fucking can. The least I can do is make them feel a little hated and uncomfortable. It's not much though.

>On their honeymoon night, they'll be making love, not caring about height one second, while you'll be angry, on your own, feeling small, when you're my height.
Yeah and seven years down the road she will be divorcing him, looking for someone taller. Not that it has to happen, but it's more likely that it will rather than that it will not.

>>37107691
Dont really get your meaning with this

>>37107593
>I believe that factors out of your control like height or looks are a big part of the chemistry.

MUH OUT OF MUH CONTROL

Your behaviour, what you say, what you think, all of this will come out one way or another and women will know. It's probably obvious as fuck what you think of women when you're around them. That's completely in your control.

>>37107593
>Why would you be loved if there is someone out there who is better than you and she can get him.

Why would YOU be loved when you hate so much? Indeed, no reason, not for a woman, but I was so loved because I was me, and no man out there could beat me at being me. I was the best in that category, still am.

>>37107593
>I don't believe I need to mention the divorce statistics, do I?

You do, actually. Whatever's left will show you all the successful unions.

>>37107663
Once again, shaming and insults. I'm not a dog (I'm less actually).

Yeah you got fucked too, you could have been taller (although your height is above average in your country while it's under average in mine). More attractive. Could have had much more for much less effort. And somehow you're okay with that.

I envy you. I really do.

>>37107593
>I'm gonna stop shitting on them when they stop discriminating against me based on things out of my control.

Then enjoy your hand and give yourself cuddles, because nobody else will. Women don't owe you anything.

You accuse them of discrimination, these are your ideas alone. You wouldn't know a woman who liked short guys if she farted in your face in morse code, spelling I LIKE SHORT GUYS.
>>37107593
>I mean the shit you have said. It's exactly the positive delusion that most people maintain so they don't go crazy from the truth. Like I did, I guess. Then again maybe I was never sane, doesn't matter.

Are you fucking retarded? Positive delusion? I've BEEN with such women, you nutter. You're the only deluded one, my fucked up friend.

>>37107767
>It's probably obvious as fuck what you think of women when you're around them. That's completely in your control.
That's true. I'm more concerned about things out of my control though.

>Indeed, no reason, not for a woman, but I was so loved because I was me, and no man out there could beat me at being me. I was the best in that category, still am.
But what if you isn't enough for her?

>You do, actually. Whatever's left will show you all the successful unions.
So 35% of marriages. If you were to do a coin toss (why did I almost say "toin coss" instead?) you'd have a much better chance of picking the right side than having a succesful marriage. Of course my country is one of the worst in europe divorce-wise.

>>37107816
>Women don't owe you anything.
So you say I should be okay with them picking men to be with based on things out of my control, which means many women will simply overlook me (pun intended) and there is nothing I can do about that?

>>37107622
>>37107662

Dan, you fucking piece of shit. This is the third, at least, tall man to tell you the same fucking thing, and you refuse to accept the truth.

I know a tall man, two, in fact, and you're completely wrong. When you deny what actual tall men tell you, you make me want to slap the shit out of you for being such a fucking cunt.

>>37107422
>Unless you're a raging homosexual
Kek, women can still find gays sexy.

>how would you know what a woman finds attractive?
I hope you aren't taking any of this as a personal attack, but so far it's all been neutral. There was a study about when a woman finds more attractive. An angry man is more aggressive and dominant.

>>37107640
>Well, blackmail by pussy is common. Women enforce behavior they consider good by providing (or not) access to pussy.

You're aware this only works on weak men, right? If you're pussy-whipped, then you have bigger problems than women.

>>37107640
>It gives you confidence and experience both of which are very important in finding a real partner. Once again, Chad wins.

It doesn't. Ask tall men.

Again, mental illness wins. You fucking tire me. I'm done.

>>37107740

If you can get attached to OTHER people, but not your parents, then the fault does not lie in you. You may simply have parents who aren't actually nice, though they may fake it very well.

>>37107712
People die if I want to kill them. It's as simple as that. If they can stop me, then fine, but that isn't going to stop me from trying again. They'd have to kill me to stop me.

>>37107871
>When you deny what actual tall men tell you, you make me want to slap the shit out of you for being such a fucking cunt.
Do you really want me to react? Okay.

>>37107622
>My 196cm has been fucking nightmare for me. Being two heads taller then your girlfriend is not really that great
Never having a girlfriend, never even kissing a woman is I reckon even worse. Receiving comments on your short height even though you're barely under the country average is bad too. The disgusted faces or flat-out being ignored is bad also.

You still have the better deal here. Being very tall is much MUCH better than being very short. I'd say being about 6'3" - 6'4" is the ideal.

>>37107897
>You're aware this only works on weak men, right?
That much is true. But it's not always obvious. There is a very thin line between what I said and a compromise.

>>37107771
>Once again, shaming and insults.

I'm only returning everything you said about women, since it applies to yourself, with your own fucking terms.

>muh shaming and muh insults

They're yours, you dumbass. Are you so fucking inept that you can't even recognise when I parrot your ways, to YOURSELF?

How do you think you make women feel when you say this shit?

I'm not surprised women don't want you, for fuck's sake. You know how my LO felt when she was with me? Protected, loved, cared for. Because I made her feel this way, I DID protect her. I was there for her, and she knew it. I didn't spend my time suspecting her of wanting to cuck me with the next taller guy she met; instead, I let her go to bars with her friends and never worried about it, even though other men tried to hit on her. I believed in myself enough, and confidence is sexy; whining like a bitch is not.

Why would a woman value you when you don't fucking value yourself? For fuck's sake, you are not a child anymore, grow the fuck up.

>>37107937
never kissing a woman is your bloody fault. I had a girlfriend once.
only once and its fucking horrible knowing that feeling of someone caring and losing it.
But i dont feel sorry for myself, I fucking hate myslef because i know that it's my damn fault that im alone.
it's your fault too. Once you stop bullshiting yourself and admit that youre the one that needs to change instead of being angry at Chads because "girls just want the good looking dicks and we NICE GUYS are alone" the sooner you might do something about it.

>>37107771
>Yeah you got fucked too, you could have been taller

I wouldn't want to be taller. I'm perfectly fine how I am. Taller would make me more noticeable, more freakish, fuck that. Being average in height suits me just fine.

My tall friend is over 200 cm tall, and whenever we go out, everyone can spot him above everyone else's head. I'd hate to have to look down at everyone else like I'm the only adult amongst babies. Shit sucks.
>>37107771
>(although your height is above average in your country while it's under average in mine

Ah eat shit already, we've debunked that a million times. Your national average is literally above you by less than the size of your dick, so fuck off.

>>37107771
>Could have had much more for much less effort

Flash news you grand cuck: it's not all about efforts. A woman will love you not just because you make a fucking effort, but also because you two are compatible. Again, having zero fucking empathy deprives you of that vision of things.

You're so damn wrong. Less efforts means nothing here. I wouldn't have known great love with "less effort" and my height has nothing to do with it.

You're such a well of negative bullshit. Please get help.

>>37107990
Yeah I guess not valuing myself is a problem.

>>37108054
Wait so women can (and will) turn you down for things out of your control, but it's your fault when they do this?

>>37108054
>>37107937
Holy shit stop trying to out-pity each other you fucking cunts.
Love lost and love never had entail their own seperate pains- the former the fear and torture of knowing of the heighths of joy and not knowing if you'll ever get that again, the latter of the unknown and constant yearning for that plateu.
One-upping each other on how pathetic you are helps nobody and makes you look like the unlovable pricks you most certainly are.

>>37108094
>I'd hate to have to look down at everyone else like I'm the only adult amongst babies. Shit sucks.
So we're going to ignore how tall men are more likely to be in leadership positions and earn more money?

>You're such a well of negative bullshit. Please get help.
It's negative. It's not bullshit.

Fun thread you guys got here.

Dan, first I'd like to get a sense of just how unacceptable you find your traits. What would of value would you be willing to give up to increase your height and attractiveness, or example? If you're going to deny that you possess anything of value, what level of pain would you endure or evil acts would you commit?

>>37107836
>That's true. I'm more concerned about things out of my control though.

And that's fucking dumb, you utter cucktard. Do you worry about the fucking weather too?

>>37107836
>But what if you isn't enough for her?

Then she'll look for someone else and you're better off looking for someone more adapted to you as well. That's how it works.>>37107836
>So 35% of marriages.

That's more than a third, that's fucking enormous, Dan. I hope you realise just how enormous a win ratio this is, in a world where anyone can divorce. Admire the glory of this. Also take into consideration that while married couple who stay married only do so once, divorced people can, and usually do, divorce MANY TIMES.

If you changed that stat to just people who married once and never again, without adding up divorces, the percentage would be even higher, much higher. An absolute win for love.>>37107836
>If you were to do a coin toss (why did I almost say "toin coss" instead?) you'd have a much better chance of picking the right side than having a succesful marriage.

Sure, except marrying a woman isn't a question of luck, so that's a retarded example. Not dealing with your mental issues is how you prepare for divorce, by preparing to marry someone who needs help as much as you do.>>37107836
>Of course my country is one of the worst in europe divorce-wise.

No fucking wonder with would-be husbands like you. Do you have any idea how hateful you are as husband material? For fuck's sake.

If you were married, and treated your wife like this, there's no question that she'd run to me upon hearing me breathe. Goddam, I'd sooner marry a toilet bowl than you.

>>37107856

Women don't owe you anything. You don't get to tell them what they like, just as they don't get to tell you what to like.

There's nothing you can do about that.

There are women who would like your type provided you weren't such a negative fuckhead. Attitude goes a LONG way. Much more than physical traits, especially to women, for whom two thirds of men just look average, neither ugly nor hot.

>>37108182
For what it's worth, I believe most romantic relationships are a needless source of suffering and should be avoided. No attachments.

>>37108107
No it's your fault for being so antisocial that people care about. If you managed to act interesting people would give a crap about your looks.
One of biggest chads I met was a fucking tiny chubby dude, but he had enormous charisma and could charm anyone.
If I pissed you off Im sorry but this is just the way i see it.

>>37107880
>Kek, women can still find gays sexy.

Kuk, the point was how would you know what a woman finds sexy unless you were one, or unless you were yourself sensitive to men's charms. I know empathy isn't your forte but make a fucking effort.

>>37107880
>I hope you aren't taking any of this as a personal attack, but so far it's all been neutral. There was a study about when a woman finds more attractive. An angry man is more aggressive and dominant.

Studies don't mean shit until you know the fine details. There are countless ways and reasons to be angry. Being angry is what little kids do a lot, and that's not sexy at all. It's certainly not dominant either, because men get angry when they lack control, not when they have it.

As a teacher, I can guarantee that getting angry is not sexy and doesn't speak of dominance. It sounds more like you're losing control like a little bitch and making a last resort attempt at getting control back. When this fails, you're done for. It's a very risky thing to try, and while I have done it many times, it needs to be done perfectly, and perfectly controlled, and you must not actually look angry, or it won't work at all.

>MUH STUDY

Fuck your studies, it's not a fucking magic spell. You'd like to think being angry is sexy, most women would find it scary and would wonder how soon they'd become the object of your anger.

>>37107931
>They'd have to kill me to stop me.

You don't seem to understand how easily you could be killed.

>>37108129
Im not trying to out pity anyone.
my point was about realizing whos to blame. Not whos more fucked.

>>37107937
>Never having a girlfriend, never even kissing a woman is I reckon even worse.

Irrelevant, one could be tall and a kissless virgin. Get back to logic, my histrionic teenage bitch friend.

>>37107972
>That much is true. But it's not always obvious. There is a very thin line between what I said and a compromise.

No, there isn't. Any woman who uses sex to manipulate you should be left alone immediately. You have to have standards, Danielle.

>>37108107
>Wait so women can (and will) turn you down for things out of your control, but it's your fault when they do this?

Being a shithead is in your control. At this point, you literally deserve to be single because you hate women, you don't value them, you don't value yourself.

You dreaming about a relationship is like a fucking moldy turd wanting to have intercourse with the rotten corpse of a rat: why would any of those want to get together?

Fix yourself first and foremost.

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>>37107937
>Never having a girlfriend, never even kissing a woman is I reckon even worse.
At least I'm not a manlet.

>>37108129

He isn't trying to one-up him, he's giving him perspective. That should be obvious.

>>37108156
>So we're going to ignore how tall men are more likely to be in leadership positions and earn more money?

Yes, because we're not talking about that, are we? Most of my bosses weren't taller than me, so? Who gives a fuck? Leadership positions and money will mostly attract the sort of women you don't want much to do with.

True love doesn't care about money. I know. I've experienced this several times. You have to be worth more than money, and I have been.

Are you worth more than money, Dan? Or are you fucking annoying?

Can you imagine, for one minute, a woman dealing with your fucking shit? I can't. You're a toxic cesspool of crap and you need to fucking change.

>>37108186
>And that's fucking dumb, you utter cucktard. Do you worry about the fucking weather too?
Point is, weather just happens. But it's women who enforce the social hierarchy.

>Then she'll look for someone else and you're better off looking for someone more adapted to you as well. That's how it works._
I guess that's true.

> Also take into consideration that while married couple who stay married only do so once, divorced people can, and usually do, divorce MANY TIMES.
Yeah that I'd like to be accounted for. I do think it's highly relevant.

I do realize I'm hateful. I think I have a reason to be.

>>37108182
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Believe it or not though, I really am trying to listen here. Except I will have to take some notes of the main points afterwards and read them tomorrow. Otherwise it's going to be Truman Show.

Height is not THAT unacceptable. Could be better but short is not the first adjective people use when describing me.

There is no good way to increase height or looks. It's about genes. It's about what you can pass down to your offspring. That's what I'm concerned about.

>If you're going to deny that you possess anything of value, what level of pain would you endure or evil acts would you commit?
I honestly don't think I'm gonna answer this.

Genuinely feeling good today. Been cooking, cleaning and finishing up errands and chores I had fallen behind on. Tommorow I'm gonna get drunk off my ass and blast music all night.

Seems like the KEEP CALM doesnt really applies to this thread anymore

>>37108258
>For what it's worth, I believe most romantic relationships are a needless source of suffering and should be avoided. No attachments.

You don't know what you're talking about. Relationships can be the greatest sources of love, companionship, fun, healthy lives, that you'll ever have. Nothing comes close to it.

How many relationships have you had to speak that way about them?

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my friend keeps pressuring me into a relationship.
i told her i would think about it to win some time.
i don't know how to tell her NO without ruining the relationship
i could use some help Nicky, she is one of my most valuable friendships

>>37108308
You don't seem to understand that I don't care. I'm not an idiot. All it takes is one well placed bullet. I'm just saying that others die just as easily.

>>37108221
I think you are overestimating attitude. You can have a great attitude, but if you can't please her physically, you're fucked (and she's not).

>>37108272
It's not that you pissed me off, it's just that you're wrong.

>>37108324
One is less likely to be.

>>37108340
Yes there is. She can demand you act a certain way and mask it as a compromise, but it's not more than an attempt to control you.

>>37108364
I hate women, because they value Chads over me.

>>37108370
Good for you.

>>37108413
>Leadership positions and money will mostly attract the sort of women you don't want much to do with.
That's cute. Because women don't want men who can dominate other man, right? That's totally not an attractive trait. Also women don't want men who can provide more money for them or their family, right?

Cute.

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>>37108422
>Tommorow I'm gonna get drunk off my ass and blast music all night.
Just mind the serotonin depletion. If you're feeling good, you don't want to drop back below it.
What are you planning on drinking?

>>37108488
Giving her false hope seems like an even riskier way of maintaining the friendship.

>>37108416
>Point is, weather just happens. But it's women who enforce the social hierarchy.

Are you deluded? Women don't enforce shit. Women will take the power that men give them, but they won't make it happen on their own, that is not generally their interest. You just blame women for everything, because projecting is your style.
>>37108416
>I do realize I'm hateful. I think I have a reason to be.

Why don't you hate the people who deserve your hate instead of everyone else?

>>37108416
>Can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

He isn't. He's dead serious and dead literal. I'll be your interpreter since both of you are fucking ill-adapted to normal human relations.

Holy fucking shit, you guys. Fuck.

>>37108416
>There is no good way to increase height or looks.

How about compensated shoes and going to the fucking hairdresser? How about buying clothes that fit you well, how about working out?

How about manning the fuck up and doing something?

You motherfucker. Genes aren't to be blamed for any of these things.

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>>37108522
>Giving her false hope seems like an even riskier way of maintaining the friendship.
you got a point but i just dont know how to let her down hence why im buying time

>>37108430
>Seems like the KEEP CALM doesnt really applies to this thread anymore

That's right. I'm mad as fuck and I will swear all evening.

>>37108416
Just answer the pain one. Would you, hypothetically, suffer through the agony of being burned alive in order to become a better specimen? Having children is important to you? Why? I'm not going to, even though I would enjoy having them, because I refuse to subject them to suffering unless I was certain it would reduce aggregate suffering in the long term.

>>37108528
>Why don't you hate the people who deserve your hate instead of everyone else?
Women who treat me worse Chad's don't deserve hate?

>He isn't. He's dead serious and dead literal. I'll be your interpreter since both of you are fucking ill-adapted to normal human relations.
So he thinks this is a fun thread?

>>37108460
I only have observational data. If you read carefully, I didn't deny any of that.

>>37108547
Once again I was talking more about the important things. Bones, etc. You can wear lifts and expensive shoes, but your genes will still show once you take them off.
>>37108561
No I wouldn't suffer that agony.

Having children is important to me, but I don't know why.

>>37108488

List why you don't want her.

>>37108516
I'm used to it by now. I drink on a weekly basis and never get anxiety or depression afterwards anymore. Just beer, can't afford much else.

>>37108617
>Just beer, can't afford much else.
Where do you live that getting drunk on beer is cheaper than booze? Or do you just have low tolerance?

>>37108574
Are 14 or what?
If yes, youll grow out of it
if no, damn dude, youre pretty much a lost cause

Until you stop blaming others for your problems theres nothing to do.

>>37108630
Oh boy. How many times have I heard what you said. But really many problems are out of my control. But they're still problems. I'm not be blamed for these.

>>37108617
That's strange, getting drunk off beer. Cheap wine has the best voltage/price ratio. Also some window cleaners if you're up for that.

>>37108628
Northern Europe. Spirits are taxed way higher than beer. Translated to dollars, a 0,5 beer can is about 1.5 bucks. 350ml vodka is about 15.

>>37108606
When you call the idea to mind, do you think more about the closeness of the relationship a father has with his kids or succeeding genetically by passing on your genes?

been constantly imagining fights and arguments with people around me for two days now, starting to really get me frustrated

>>37107260
Atlas i will steal your attention away from the arguing since i think i feel the same way about my parents. they took good care of me as a kid, gave me all the stuff i needed and most of what i wanted, they helped me move out and they supported me financially when i was studying.

i have absolutly no feeling of connectiveness with them. they are people i help sometimes and who help me back.

im thinking they gave me stuff, but they never gave me life. i didnt get to learn how emotions work nor what the real value of people were.
do you recognize any of this?

>>37108679
I don't like wine.

>>37108502
>I think you are overestimating attitude. You can have a great attitude, but if you can't please her physically, you're fucked (and she's not).

You're wrong.

I fell very hard for women who had a great attitude but didn't originally attract me physically. Mind over matter, very much so.

Your attitude is shit, even if you looked like a Greek god, you'd never get a woman to love you. Your attitude is like used TP: you could put it on the best cake, and nobody would eat that fucking cake.
>>37108502
>One is less likely to be.

Irrelevant. Stats and odds don't matter on your individual level.

Less odds? Then try MORE, you fucking homo. What's the difference? A few more attempts? A few more days, a few more weeks? That's fucking nothing in the grand scheme of things.>>37108502
>Yes there is. She can demand you act a certain way and mask it as a compromise, but it's not more than an attempt to control you.

Then you don't accept that shit, problem solved.

>>37108502
>I hate women, because they value Chads over me.

Awesome pick up line. Here's the truth: you value Chad over you, women rarely value Chad, so when they see you value yourself even less, they run. I would doo.

>>37108502
>Because women don't want men who can dominate other man, right? That's totally not an attractive trait

It only is to you because power is the only thing you understand.

>>37108502
>Also women don't want men who can provide more money for them or their family, right?

Women will want stability over financial means, since a wealthy man can just as easily get rid of her for someone else. A faithful man who can support a family is more interesting than a wealthy hysterical cunt. I'd not be your wife for no amount of money, however. Life is too short to live it with a toxic waste dump of crappy poopoo shit.

Mind if I vent?

So when I was in high school I thought i was bipolar.
It made a lot of sense, I had days when I wanted to re-categorise the library in order of what was and wasn't interesting to me, and other days when I wanted to lie on my bed until the thing on my chest decided to go somewhere else.

Anywho, went to see a doctor, but he didn't think it was anything more than teenyness, and my family have always been very 'don't drug away your problems', so nothing happened from it.
Didn't stop me from lying about it shamelessly though. Told everyone that I was bipolar so that they'd understand some days when I didn't want to play, or that some days I'd be running through the garden just to see how fast I could dodge trees.

Ended up leaving high school, but not before having social stigma basically beaten into me. Only really started to sink in after I left school and moved cities though- could be a 'reinventing myself' thing, but I decided to say that I'd 'shaken off' my bipolar. Doc from long ago said it might have been because of senior stress, so I just said that.
"I had bipolar, but it went away after I left school, turns out it was stress related."

Started using it as a stock phrase. Got really popular with some ladies who thought that mental health issues were the most interesting thing in the world - also had some really deep talks with other people still suffering.

I've been... I'd like to say 'living a lie', but I'll never know now, and I won't. But I've talked to a fair share of teens with depression and anxiety and told them that, for me, it went away. I don't know if I'm giving false hope, or being a decietful fuck, but it's really just starting to wear on me, and I'm not sure if I just want to give it all up and tell the truth to a whole bunch of people who would be shattered, or whose friendships with me would be.

... Sorry, saw psychological issues, so I thought I'd just throw out whatever.

uniquenewyork fuck really?

>>37108700
Succeeding genetically. No question there.

>>37108574
>Women who treat me worse Chad's don't deserve hate?

I can't make sense of that fucking sentence. Hate the people who hurt you, leave everyone else alone, stop splitting like a BPD cunt, stop generalising, stop reading meaningless studies, stop having core beliefs to feel good about your shit hole of a social situation, stop using excuses.

Start doing your best in everything you can.

You can learn languages through hard work but apparently you can't fucking give people a chance. Bravo, Obama.

>>37108609
im not sexually attracted to her
she has been one of my friend's gf
im too depressed to mantain a relationship
i fear i would hurt her
i feel that we both have too many mental issues (in my case caused by schizophrenia, in hers caused by OCD) to be good to each other
i feel i might hurt her

those are the ones from the top of my head

>>37108724
Why does that matter? What impact does it have on your current state if you know you've won the evolutionary competition?

>>37108574
>So he thinks this is a fun thread?

It is a fun thread, you motherfucker. How entertaining do you think it is to see me lose my shit over your fucking retardation?

I'm always calm and kind, usually, so that alone has to be entertainment top kek. Your own shit is entertaining, and it would entertain me if I didn't care for you. But I do, so I get fucking mad.

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>>37105759
Hey Nick glad you're doing better. Country driving comfy driving.

>>37108714
Yeah I feel you. I'm just passing on the knowledge that the homeless guys told me. Boxed wine is what you see them drinking very often. Hard liquor? Not too much.

>>37108715
I was gonna say something like "I have a shitty attitude due to being treated worse for things out of my control". But I don't know.

>Then you don't accept that shit, problem solved.
Then she leaves you, takes a huge part of your property and walks away a winner.

>It only is to you because power is the only thing you understand.
So now you're going to deny that being in power is a trait that women find attractive?

>A faithful man who can support a family is more interesting than a wealthy hysterical cunt.
And to the faithful man she can do the same.

>>37108586
>I only have observational data. If you read carefully, I didn't deny any of that.

>if you read carefully

I read carefully. I can still ask you what your experience is, and since it's none, your opinion isn't worth anything as you don't know what you speak of.

Read 500 books about chocolate, but until you've tasted it, you don't know chocolate. Period.

Some things cannot be observed. You've either lived them or you haven't. You haven't.

>>37108692
Czech here (almost middle of Europe for those who dont know)
Can confirm this, beer is pretty much cheapest in the whole Europe here and its quite similar around us too.
You can buy beer thats cheaper than bottled water with no problem here.

>>37108606
>Once again I was talking more about the important things. Bones, etc. You can wear lifts and expensive shoes, but your genes will still show once you take them off.

MUH SHOWING GENES, HOLY FUCKING SHIT, DON'T SHOW HER MY GENES, SHE'LL RUN TO THE TALLER MAN AND KEK ME ON THE SPOT.

God fucking dammit.

>>37108717
are you telling the truth? did it go away for you?

>>37108827
Czech lager is usually what I go for lol. Cheap, and has at least some flavour.

>>37108848
I like this specific thread. It's not everyday that Nick gets angry, but when he does, he's still funny as hell.

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>>37108679
>But really many problems are out of my control.

None of your serious problems is. You just love being sorry for yourself and exonerating yourself of any and all responsibility.

You're single? Your fault.

You're toxic to be around? Your fault.

You're scared? Your fault.

You're negative? Your fault.

The only thing that isn't your fault is your mental issues, but you never fucking focus on that, ODDLY ENOUGH, FUCKBOY.

That's where problems get solved, so lay off women and your shitty as sexism, and focus on your issues.

>be me
>try to save lambs
>open the gates
>fuckers won't fucking run
>they wouldn't run
>they didn't run

>>37108762
You are acting like if you work hard in the things you can change, the things you can not change shouldn't be limiting to you. I'm not sure I buy that.

I mean it's a nice theory that if you have two guys, one has a small penis but works hard on himself, the other one has a big penis but works less hard. I mean it's nice and all, but at the end of the day, the small dick still will pleasure her less. The short height will still make her feel less protected and the ugly face will still repulse her more.

>>37108795
Not sure what to say here.

>>37108860
I don't know if I ever had it.

>>37108712
Thank god I can get back to this.

Yes. I feel pretty much exactly the same

They also game stuff and everything but I dont feel connected to them

>they are people i help sometimes and who help me back

This pretty much sums it up for me too.
I still feel like its a problem on my side, that I just have a general problem with attaching to people but I also had and still have some good friends with which I dont have this problem.

Hey Nick.
I enjoy the rainy weather here. The smell, the wind, no sunlight, no heat. It's beautiful.
Do you like rain?

>>37108724
>Succeeding genetically. No question there.

You're fucking retarded. People who literally adopt the perceived purpose of evolution as their own conscious goal in life are beyond me. What will that do to you? What will be the point of it when all life ends? Are you out of your fucking mind?

Besides, if you consider your genes so shit, why the fuck would you want to impose them on some poor children? Make some FUCKING sense, you moron.

>good genes, must be given to children, so they can live a happy life

or

>bad genes, best not spread, better raise Chad's kids instead and getting cucked like I deserve because I hate everyone, and myself, and won't do shit to improve

Choose one and only one.

>>37108888
Have to agree with you here. Dan x Nick:
"I-Its not like I like your bone structure or anything b-baka!"

>>37108911
I'm going to be here until this gets 404'd.

>>37108827
Kurva proc je na r9k tolik cechu?

>>37108848
She can pretty much tell genetic quality. It shows.

>>37108911
If I fix my issues I will have worse results than someone gifted who fixed his issues (or worked hard or whatever).

>>37108775

Then you tell her you don't feel ready for a relationship for all these reasons. Honesty is the best policy.

Now go tell Dan that this girl wants you and isn't after your money, that you aren't over 7 feet tall, that your cock isn't a fucking desert anaconda and that you don't rule men.

>>37108929
Weirdly can empathise with this discussion. Don't really have any connection with my parents or even siblings, other than standard friendship.

Stings like a bitch if internet friends decide they don't want to talk to me anymore, but my grandma died and I was pretty unaffected.

Not sure what any of that is about.

>>37108826
You don't seem to realize or care how fucking annoying your attitude is.

I didn't deny your little lived experience, you defensive shit. Are you denying that people suffer as a result of the majority of relationships? Because that's unbelievably stupid. Most relationships end and in unpleasant ways. I don't need to have experienced one myself to see that, just like I know to avoid medieval torture before undergoing it personally, so that example is really dumb.

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>>37109000
>that you aren't over 7 feet tall
kek im actually pretty short, 5'4

>>37108980
I think I'm going to stop replying so I can just witness this.

>>37109038
Have you been posting original paintings?

>>37108819

I'm jealous.
>>37108821
>I was gonna say something like "I have a shitty attitude due to being treated worse for things out of my control". But I don't know.

Nobody here treats you badly. I've seen you talk to women, Dan. You treat them like shit before they even have a chance at anything. Don't bullshit me, motherfucker.

>>37108821
>Then she leaves you, takes a huge part of your property and walks away a winner.

Living with you for a while, she earned it.

>>37108821
>So now you're going to deny that being in power is a trait that women find attractive?

Again, being attractive doesn't seal the deal, you fucking shithead. It's just being attractive. None of the women who loved me loved me for "being in power". How about you? For fuck's sake.

I won't even bother with the last part, I don't get your response at all.

>MUH WOMEN ARE ALL WHORES

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>>37108980
wat?

>>37108978
I'm not saying it makes sense. But there is a desire to succeed. And not having children is failure.

>bad genes, best not spread, better raise Chad's kids instead and getting cucked like I deserve because I hate everyone, and myself, and won't do shit to improve
You use "improve" and "genes" in one sentence. Think about it. If you improve, your genes are still shit.

>>37108915
jumping on the hate-wagon

to get a feel for the difference between the shallow and the profound.
first imagine a girl with the perfect looks who objectively gives the best head in the world. then imagine an absolute cunt for a person, someone that annoys you with everything they do.
now put the cunt in the perfect body. would you stand having that person as a gf? waking up next to someone that pisses you off, falling asleep with her, coming home from a long day to spend the rest of the evening with her?

>>37109040
Its fun. But keep replying, I came here to talk with people.

>>37108827

Ah! Dan, you faggot, here's a tall man from YOUR country, and he tells you you're wrong about height.

Atlas, please stick around forever, you're basically kryptonite for Dan, and he needs it badly.

not much to say,
presentation at uni went smooth

>>37108888

Wew, dat quad.

>>37109076
>You treat them like shit before they even have a chance at anything. Don't bullshit me, motherfucker.
True. Not too much IRL though since then people want to beat me up. But still, cause and effect.

>Living with you for a while, she earned it.
LOL.

Evening all. Had a load of junk food in an effort to sober me up and even me out. As such, the night will go well enough but my waistline will suffer. Such is life. Wouldn't make it into therapy tomorrow if I had kept drinking. Left it at 3 pints of Carling.

>>37109014
Exactly. I feel bad for not caring but I just cant help it.
But I dont really understand people who say family before everything either.
It's not like you get to choose your family so if you maybe people shouldnt expect you to care, after all they can be total assholes quite often.

>>37109096
Okay, I guess I probably should, for variety reasons.

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>>37109061
yes those are mine
they are kind of old tho

Dan, on the rare occassion that I go out somewhere women regularly display interest in me despite the fact that I'm not a "Chad" nor particulary attractive. I always turn them down. How do you explain that?

>>37108915
>You are acting like if you work hard in the things you can change, the things you can not change shouldn't be limiting to you. I'm not sure I buy that.

I do work hard at things I can change, you buttsucking cancer. I eat well, I work out regularly, etc. I also work on my attitude and my personality, and I try never to be a motherfucking Dan who hates everything all the time.

Things I can't change I don't need to think of, I just deal with it. I have some physical flaws, but I realise they're flaws to myself more than to others and people don't actually care. Especially women.

You know what you need? You need a woman's love, you'd learn a lot from it. Your mother failed, your father failed, but you don't have to keep on failing. Just know that hate won't bring you love in return. Sucking out Satan's asshole will not feed you milk and honey.

>inb4 Andy Sixx's fucking shit memery

>>37109085
I wouldn't pick the cunt. Then again, imagine a girl who is absolutely great, but ugly as fucking sin. Not a win either. I mean, sure. It's better to be a pleasant ugly woman than to be an ugly cunt. But the ugly doesn't go away.

>>37108928
what about the mood swings you had in your childhood, they were real. were they not?

>>37108929
i feel the same way about attaching to people. but im starting to think that's just a legacy from childhood. i can feel my mom trying to socialize with me more. but it's mostly just annyoing.
i have just started digging in this, so im not quite sure about what im talking about. but i remember my dad doing some trick or joke whenever my sister was sad and he probably did it to me aswell. to stop it, to not allow us to be sad. recognize it?

>>37109186
That you are more attractive than you claim.

>>37109198
>Your mother failed, your father failed, but you don't have to keep on failing.
How exactly?

>Just know that hate won't bring you love in return.
Neither will turning the other cheek.

>>37108915
>I mean it's a nice theory that if you have two guys, one has a small penis but works hard on himself, the other one has a big penis but works less hard. I mean it's nice and all, but at the end of the day, the small dick still will pleasure her less.

HOLY FUCKING HELL.

IT COMES DOWN TO THIS. You make me fucking RAGE like a Borderline mom who doesn't get fucked hard enough.

Listen very carefully, because I will REGRET it.

You know I'm half Italian, and it's the lower half and so I speak from experience: you are wrong.

YOU

ARE

WRONG

A woman may very well prefer a man with a shorter dick, because beyond the psychological effect of feeling valued by being lusted after by a man with a good cock on him, there's mostly only pain and short sexy times, because most women are not equipped for big cocks. That means you won't get to have sex for much longer than 10 minutes, after which it becomes too painful for the lady. In some cases, you'll break them before you can do anything fun. When sex becomes mostly pain, it won't last long.

As to pleasure, size doesn't matter very much: many women can't come from dick alone, no matter the size. Short dicked men may think it's because they have lil' dicklets, but they're wrong. When a woman can't come from dick alone, she can't come from dick alone, come horse dick or mole dick.

Fuck.

>tfw its a beautiful day outside and you have a great day with uni friends
>actuallysociable.wav
>dont have to fake laugh
>get home and suddenly feel shitty
>can only think of problems and negative shit

What do I have to change bros? Maybe if I get an appartment only for me, instead of living with parents, i will get better? I dont know what makes me sad at home.

>>37108956
>Do you like rain?

Yes. LO and I would take a walk when there was rain. We both found it more interesting.

>>37108980
>"I-Its not like I like your bone structure or anything b-baka!"

That's funny.

Dan and his fucking bone structure. HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

>>37108997
>Kurva

I know that one from Polish.

>>37108997
>If I fix my issues I will have worse results than someone gifted who fixed his issues (or worked hard or whatever).

>gifted, undefined

Who cares? You aren't this other person, so who gives a fuck?

If a woman loves you, will you tell her there's someone else who has a bigger dick? Are you retarded? Do you think everyone is as fucking stupid and shallow as you?

Jesus Christ, have some fucking self-respect and then keep some for others. What do you hope to accomplish, you utter BPD clusterfuck of emotional dysregulation?

>>37109219
That's where it gets very messed up. A medical professional asked the questions and consulted the papers and said I was maybe unstable, but not clinically bipolar.
Maybe my swings were too short or too uneven, I dunno.

But now it's been years down the line and I've convinced myself that I was living with bipolar all that time.. memory is tricky as fuck so who knows how many false memories my subconscious has put in there to help me maintain the lie.
I just remember it being fucking tough, and I remember the doctor telling me it wasn't real, and then a year or two later me thinking 'Fuck was I acting out' whilst saying 'Yeah I'm a survivor'.

They say it's possible for mental illnesses to just pop up and fuck off randomly in the teens and twenties though.

>>37109015
Let me rephrase my entire contention as just this: In romantic relationships, avoidable suffering is present.

This does not require my having had one myself.

I did not deny ANY positive aspects of relationships that you listed. I just don't care about them because I'm a fucking negative utilitarian.

>>37109076
Went to grandmothers to mow and weedeat. Its a pleasant drive.
>>37109080
Its a joke.
>>37109169
Watching Dan and Nick go at it is fun but we still need to do what we're here for.
>>37109319
Thought you'd appreciate the joke.

>>37109219
My father has been trying to socialize lately too. But i just dont want to. Just as you i find it mostly annoying.
I dont know why, my father was never that mean to me, never was much of a jerk. But I still fear a lot that im like him. And more I see how we are same the more I fear. Were both easily pissed off and that just doesnt get together in one house.
To the whole problem with my family, my brother was a very problematic kid so most of attention was on him, even when I was the younger one. Maybe this caused me to not share my problems with my family and that caused me to not have a really good connection with them, who knows.
i think Im starting to talk bullshit here

>>37109292
>You make me fucking RAGE like a Borderline mom who doesn't get fucked hard enough.
What the fuck.

I just think you're wrong. Your experiences don't mean shit. A big penis is absolutely a positive trait. An attractive trait. Men with small penises are humiliated regularly and it's perfectly socially acceptable to do so. Once again, being big is better than being small, just as being tall is better than being short. Short sexy times > no sexy times

Going into a relationship with a small penis gives the women so much power to humiliate you. Only a retard would do it. Not that you would understand.

>>37109361
>Who cares? You aren't this other person, so who gives a fuck?
She can leave to go to this person and humiliate me in the process.

So if I'm understanding Dan's philosophy right; the best way to attract a woman is to tattoo your superior bone measurements onto your chest, strip down naked and show her your horse cock while roaring like a lion. She'll immediately dump her genetically inferior husband and throw herself at you.

>>37109015
>You don't seem to realize or care how fucking annoying your attitude is.

Indeed I don't, because it isn't. I'm just pointing out the obvious, and you obviously dislike how things are, but that's how they are. Don't dis chocolate before you tasted chocolate, a very simple point.

>>37109015
>I didn't deny your little lived experience,

Little lived? A 7-year relationship is not little-lived. To have experienced this, you'd have to get back to me in 2024.

>>37109015
>you defensive shit.

I'm not defensive because I'm not defending myself. Pointing out your lack of experience in the thing you judge has very little to do with me or my own defence. You, however, feel attacked and are getting defensive, because I do challenge your position, which I believe to be a very bad one from which to judge relationships.


>>37109015
>Are you denying that people suffer as a result of the majority of relationships?

The pros outweigh the cons and last longer. I know suffering from relationships, more than the average human being, and I still think it's worth it.

>>37109015
>Because that's unbelievably stupid.

No, it's the difference between having experienced something, and not having experienced something.

>>37109015
>Most relationships end and in unpleasant ways.

Yes, we all die eventually, we all are forced to part somehow. It never ends well, that's no argument.


>>37109015
>I don't need to have experienced one myself to see that, just like I know to avoid medieval torture before undergoing it personally, so that example is really dumb.

Comparing relationships to medieval torture is not much more clever. Nobody willingly wants to be tortured in a medieval way, all free relationships are started by people who want to, and believe you me, relationships are much, much nicer than medieval torture.

cont.

You don't have to have experienced medieval torture to know you don't want it, but you need to have experienced pain.

Pain is easier to experience than a loving relationship, which takes time, and someone else, to experience. You can cut yourself and imagine what more torture would feel like, you can't love yourself and imagine what it's like to have a woman stare at you lovingly, and tell you you're everything for her.

>>37109305
I guess Im the opposite
When im home with my parents i keep this imaginary "mask" on to look normal
Everytime Im anywhere alone and this mask is no longer needed i get depressed as fuck.
Living in my own flat would probably kill me.
With me its not about the place but more about having someone around, I dont really care who it is. Just anyone so i dont fall apart

>>37109495
You don't need to do that. She will know that you are tall, she will notice that you have a big frame. She will know.

>>37109170
They're wonderful. Have you considered selling them?

>>37109151
i think the people who says that grew up with emotionally avaliable parents that they actually bonded with. parents and relatives that were more than just tools for survival.

>>37109204
so atleast in the extremes the profound is the most important aspect. we can agree on that. so when does it switch?

>>37109368
well medical professionals are wrong sometimes. and as a medical professional (though nothing that has to do with psychiatry), let me tell you that text-book cases are extremely rare.
i'd say you keep telling your story to those who wants to hear it. and tell it as truthfully as you can. "this is how it was for me", let that bring hope to people.
absolutely DO NOT go "it went away for me so im sure it'll go away for you"

>>37109432
i recognize so much in that. my sister was really prone to raging. i think it somewhat made me fear emotion

>>37109588
>so atleast in the extremes the profound is the most important aspect. we can agree on that. so when does it switch?
What kind of answer do you want? I don't know.

>>37109080
>I'm not saying it makes sense. But there is a desire to succeed. And not having children is failure.

How are you now, having children and raising them to be like you would be a worse failure. You'd impose untold suffering on innocent beings who never asked for such a shit father. So either fix yourself before you have kids, or never have kids.

>>37109080
>You use "improve" and "genes" in one sentence. Think about it. If you improve, your genes are still shit.

I can also say "mustard" and "excrement" in the same sentence without implying that you should eat shit.

Bad genes don't prevent you from improving. You can be a dwarf and still improve: you can study, get a good job, do good work, study people, improve, look better, etc.

You're so used to finding excuses for everything that you no longer see potential in anything.

>>37109603
>So either fix yourself before you have kids, or never have kids.
We both know it's not gonna happen.

>You're so used to finding excuses for everything that you no longer see potential in anything.
If you wanted to dig a trench, but only had a tablespoon, would you feel like digging it? Or would you feel like it was wasted effort when it could have been done so much faster with a pickaxe and a shovel?

>>37109600
i dont need an answer really, i just want you to consider it

>>37109432
Hey Atlas glad you came back!

>>37109277
>How exactly?

I doubt you ever were a well-adapted member of society. My mother is a whore and a cold bitch, and still I don't hate womankind.

I doubt you were radically different when you were a child. Could be wrong.

>>37109588
i guess this really might make sence.
Still not a way to fix any of this sadly.
pretty sure that childhood is beyond fixing at this moment

>>37109305

If your parents are around and have this effect on you usually, yes.

Live with roommates you like. Life will be awesome.

>>37109710
Hello.
Yeah, I was scouting r9k for the whole evening just to catch this thread at the beginning.
Things got pretty crazy but still, time well spent

>>37109403
>Let me rephrase my entire contention as just this: In romantic relationships, avoidable suffering is present.

Avoidable suffering is present? Do you mean, "It's possible to avoid suffering in a relationship?" Because if so, it's not, unless you don't really love the person. Suffering isn't avoidable in life either, so it's the same thing. No more reason to kill yourself than to remain single. Not sure what your damn point is with this anyway.

>>37109403
>This does not require my having had one myself.

Indeed, but since that's not what I was suggesting, it doesn't matter. You still haven't experienced what you're talking about and no amount of arguing will change that.

>>37109403
>I just don't care about them because I'm a fucking negative utilitarian.

I don't currently care to wiki that shit up but if you feel like defining what negative utilitarianism is, be my guest, I'll read.

If you truly don't care about relationships, you've left humanity behind and need to get back.

>>37109517
I made a factual statement about the presence of suffering in relationships, which I don't need to have experienced in order to know is there. You proceeded to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. If you want to have a philosophical discussion about the relative value of suffering and happiness, that's fine, but don't say that I don't know what I'm talking about when I make a factual statement. That is an attack and I'm right to feel it as such.

>>37109548
i also put on a mask with my parents. but it's rather a mask to hide who i am. to them i'd rather show off a front that lacks any emotion and just does what's easy to pass the time

>>37109760
naw, it's for sure not a fix. but it's knowing your enemy. i feel like it's given me some sense of direction, and just the feeling of knowing what the issue is i feel is a whole lot better than sitting around with a blank mind wondering why the fuck there's no will

>>37109433
>What the fuck.

You don't know the desperation of people who don't get fucked hard enough, do you.

>>37109433
>Your experiences don't mean shit. A big penis is absolutely a positive trait.

They're not just mine. Technicalities do mean a lot, and I've explained it pretty fucking clearly, are you mentally challenged or does engineering mean anything to you? Let's try this fucking shit once more:

WHEN YOUR FUCKING KEY IS BIGGER THAN YOUR KEYHOLE, YOU DON'T GET TO OPEN THE FUCKING DOOR.

It my be attractive on paper, but if you can't fuck it, then what? Not speaking from personal experience.

>>37109433
>Men with small penises are humiliated regularly and it's perfectly socially acceptable to do so.

AT THE MARKET PLACE, WE LINE UP MEN WITH SMALL DICKS AND HUMILIATE THEM BECAUSE IT'S SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE.

What the fuck, Dan? Are you fucking insane? Who the fuck even gets to see your dick without your permission?

NOBODY GETS TO SEE YOUR DICK UNTIL WAY AFTER YOU'RE INTIMATE WITH THEM.

By the time your woman sees your eleventh finger, she will still love you physically, unless you selected a retarded cunt, which you probably would, because womanly love doesn't fucking show up on your goddam hateful radar.

Not sure the thoughts re: Dan. I'm an ex-chad myself. Always been decently good looking, good at sex, smart, tall, funny and with a penis which does the penis things very splendidly.
I was also a massive asshole. I've dated plenty of girls, and gotten bored with them or something, and they've immediately gone from me to acne-faced skeleton dweebs.
My relationships lasted six months at the most - none of the relationships afterwards lasted less than two years, and some are happily married now.

Gender biology is a two-way street Dan.
Women are drawn to genetics, sure. But genes compete. The top breeds in humans come from the shittiest breeding practices.
Girls need security for their brood. They aren't gonna go chasing a Chad who'll go all 'old cow new cow' on them, they're going to want a lover and a cherisher, and usually they'll cum better from that too (A fact that has given me some angst hearing about). Best part is, once you're both hooked on eachother, trust is pretty much implicit. It's pretty unlikely that they'll stray as long as you treat them right, because hey, you're treating them right.
Ofc if you are actually a misogynist then yeah you're in trouble bud.

>>37109433
>Once again, being big is better than being small,

No reason stated. Magic spells don't count. Listen up, thickhead: if your cock doesn't enter the woman's vagina, you don't get sexy time AT ALL. Do you COMPUTE this simple fact?
>>37109433
>Going into a relationship with a small penis gives the women so much power to humiliate you.

WAKE THE FUCK UP.

IF A WOMAN HUMILIATES YOU FOR YOUR COCK OR ANYTHING ELSE, SHE'S NOT A WISE CHOICE FOR A PARTNER, SO YOU THANK HER FOR REVEALING HER POWER LEVEL AND LEAVE.

ARE YOU INSANE.

WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH A WOMAN WHO DOESN'T RESPECT YOUR FUCKING GENITALS?

HOLY SHIT, FOR FUCK'S SAKE, IF I SAW YOUR GODDAM COCK, EVEN I WOULDN'T DISRESPECT IT.

You seem to have no goddam clue what a relationship is about.

>>37109466
>She can leave to go to this person and humiliate me in the process.

WHY IS EVERYTHING ABOUT HUMILIATION WITH YOU?

CAN YOU STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE IS TRYING TO MAKE YOU RELIVE YOUR PAST? YES? FUCK.

>>37109815
I can't browse this board that often, too depressing and slides me back towards mine. But I know roughly when thread starts and jump on when I'm not at work.

>>37109495

This. It's exactly as ridiculous as this.

According to Dan the FUKKBOI, I should be drowning in ginas because apparently I have everything women crave.

It's not that simple.

>>37109837
Oh, sweet fucking Jesus. We shouldn't even be talking. I've defined it for you before, the fact that I've experienced no relationships is totally irrelevant to what I said, and you've once again baited me into one of these exchanges with you with charged language and a total disregard for what I say, either in the past or at present. Now, I have to respond to each of these points or you'll say I've conceded. That is very fucking annoying because I only made one goddamn statement and get all of this.

>>37109936
Yeah. I guess knowing provides atleast a bit of comfort.

>>37109550
>She will know.

>be me
>be Dan
>be dating woman at restaurant
>suddenly decide to talk shit about women
>woman looks frustrated
>call her a filthy whore
>woman leaves
>THAT FUCKING WHORE LEFT FOR A TALLER CHAD WITH AN ANACONDA DICK
>MUH BONE STRAKTCHA
>MUH UNLUCKY
>MUH FILTHY WHORES
>MUH INFERIORITY COMPLEX

You are so fucking TIRING. Man, holy fucking balls.

Not even a fucking whore could sustain your bullshit for more than 30 minutes. How does your tootbrush not fucking MELT from the temperature of the shit that comes out of your mouth? God fucking hell.

>>37109663
>We both know it's not gonna happen.

All it takes is you jizzing inside a woman. That stuff happens much more easily than you know. Despite your best efforts to avoid the opportunity, it could still happen.

New game: guess what Dan says when he comes in a woman. Dubs win.

>FILTHY WHORE

>>37110013
I feel you.
i probably never spent so much time at once here before, Getting really tired of the captchas to be honest

>>37109663
>If you wanted to dig a trench, but only had a tablespoon, would you feel like digging it?

I'd tie it to a stick and adapt a method that makes digginf more efficient for such a small head. I'd stab the ground many times, in lines, then make a grid, then tackle that shit diagonally, and remove earth that way.

If digging a trench is more important than feeling disrespected by the universe, then yes, I will.

Your problem is that you're essentially a giant baby who expects mommy to give you what you think you are owed. The universe isn't your mommy. You're now an adult, you should stop whining and wailing for warm milk and you should get fucking moving like the rest of us.

What do you hope to accomplish? We've discussed this shit a million times before. Be practical.

>>37109955
>You don't know the desperation of people who don't get fucked hard enough, do you.
Does this need an answer?

>WHEN YOUR FUCKING KEY IS BIGGER THAN YOUR KEYHOLE, YOU DON'T GET TO OPEN THE FUCKING DOOR.
And when your key is too small, they don't even let you get it near the door.

>By the time your woman sees your eleventh finger, she will still love you physically, unless you selected a retarded cunt, which you probably would, because womanly love doesn't fucking show up on your goddam hateful radar.
Yeah mostly because my radar doesn't register things that don't exist.

>>37110001
>SO YOU THANK HER FOR REVEALING HER POWER LEVEL AND LEAVE.
That's nice and all but you're still the laughing stock.

>You seem to have no goddam clue what a relationship is about.
How would that be surprising.

>>37110012
People who have power over you can humiliate you. The more flaws you have, the easier it is for people to have power over you. Because now they can hurt, they can insult you and they can attack you based on these flaws, inadequacies, however you wanna call it.

This might actually be the root of it all.

>>37109902
>I made a factual statement about the presence of suffering in relationships, which I don't need to have experienced in order to know is there.

Yes, but again, it doesn't matter. The point is you made a judgement about relationships in general, saying you don't need them or want them, and I pointed out that you have no idea what a relationship feels like.

Knowing something is very different from having lived something.

It's an attack if you want, but it's justified. You're still clueless about what a relationship feels like.

Meta and Dan both make some fair points. Relationships do usually involve a measure of suffering. If you'd rather avoid the peaks and troughs, opting out is a valid decision. It's not one I'd take, but it's fair. As to Dan, advantages - including the physical - bestow further psychological advantages. Whether you're told you're inferior or superior in one way or another it's going to sink in, and that will have a knock on effect. Not going to get roped into this decidedly uncomfy debate, but cool your heels lads. This is not therapeutic, it's a shouting match.

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>>37109962
>Best part is, once you're both hooked on eachother, trust is pretty much implicit. It's pretty unlikely that they'll stray as long as you treat them right, because hey, you're treating them right.

This. I'm 100% convinced that LO would have stayed with me forever. I just know. In 7 years, she never cared for any other man.

The sad thing is she still doesn't care for any other man.

>>37110283
I disagree. I call my girlfriend fat once a day, and we'll make it.

>>37109837
I am saying that the specific types of suffering entailed by relationships can be avoided by not having them.

>>37110053

>I state X
>Sure, but you've never experienced X, so you can't judge it.
>But when it comes to Y, I can, because it's logical.
>Sure, but it makes no difference about X, which you haven't experienced and shouldn't judge.
>Yeah, but Y is logical and factual, my statement is true, you defensive piece of shit motherfucker.
>OK, right, but I was talking about X, since you started talking about X in the beginning.
>Sweet fucking Jesus. We shouldn't be talking because reasons.

:|

>>37109962
All this post says is

ALPHA FUX BETA BUX

>>37110087
I like how you're assuming it's always about me fucking up in things I can control. Never because of looks, height, etc.

> How does your tootbrush not fucking MELT from the temperature of the shit that comes out of your mouth?
That is pretty hillarious.

>>37110124
Interesting. The insult that I use most often is something that could be translated as filthy/fucking whore. So yes.

Also, as for avoiding the opportunity. Can't help but laugh.

>>37110185
I don't want to see people who got a pickaxe telling me I'm just lazy and that I should take responsibility. Also I don't want them acting like it was a fair competition, acting like they deserve what they have, when they just got lucky.

>>37110200
>Does this need an answer?

No, but go ahead. I have no idea what you'd say.

>>37110200
>And when your key is too small, they don't even let you get it near the door.

Good God, Dan, have you even been in a vagina that wasn't your fucking mother's? Don't you know that shit is stretchy? Even your pinky will fit in there, you humongous buttfucker.

There isn't a single woman out there who would refuse sex with you on the grounds on "small dick". Not one. By the time you get to bed, if it's a respectful relationship, she won't act uppity about your cock.

Possibility: the only women who'd put up with your shit are horrible human beings.

>>37110216
I never claimed to have insight about what the positive aspects of a relationship feel like, as that is irrelevant. I've said over and over that all I care about is reducing suffering.

>>37110200
>That's nice and all but you're still the laughing stock.

OF WHO?????

NOBODY IS WATCHING YOU LIE, DAN, NOBODY GIVES A FUCK, THOSE WHO DO WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY.

GET OUT OF YOUR MIND, FOR FUCK'S SAKE. YOU'RE MENTALLY ILL.

>>37110200
>People who have power over you can humiliate you.

NO. Where is the humiliation in being controlled by someone who has power over you? It's humiliation if you get controlled by someone who doesn't have power over you, not otherwise.

>>37110200
>The more flaws you have, the easier it is for people to have power over you. Because now they can hurt, they can insult you and they can attack you based on these flaws, inadequacies, however you wanna call it.

It's easy: just stop dating Sith Lords, you fool. You speak of women as if they were all absolute assholes. I refuse to believe Czech women are like this. I think you're making shit up.

Wish we could talk about something more uplifting
Im just gonna throw this out here.
How do you guys feel about concerts, festivals, etc.?
Im going to a concert on saturday but one of my friends said he cant come and other said he just might show up.
now Im kinda scared to go even tho its a very small one, theres still gonna be quite a few people and I hate being alone in crowds

>>37110238
It is decidedly not therapeutic, right you are. I'm not going to indulge in anymore unpleasant rhetoric myself.

>>37110238
>Meta and Dan both make some fair points.

Color me surprised that you all agree on the same bullshit.

>>37110238
>Relationships do usually involve a measure of suffering.

Nobody said otherwise. That said, the suffering need not come from one or the other person. Love should not be painful.

>>37110238
>bestow further psychological advantages. Whether you're told you're inferior or superior in one way or another it's going to sink in, and that will have a knock on effect.

Dan tells himself he is inferior, so he lives it. It's the Emperor's Clothes, but in reverse. Dan actually has great clothes but is convinced it's all nothing.

>>37110238
>This is not therapeutic, it's a shouting match.

It is therapeutic. I know Dan will smoke a cigarette when we're done.

>>37110322

That's because she's a submissive doormat with zero selfesteem which is why she's with you in the first place.

Enjoy your shit.

What's your story then nick?

>>37110428
>Good God, Dan, have you even been in a vagina that wasn't your fucking mother's?
I have one word for you. Cesarean.

>There isn't a single woman out there who would refuse sex with you on the grounds on "small dick". Not one.
You do realize I only have to find one to prove you wrong?

>>37110485
>NO. Where is the humiliation in being controlled by someone who has power over you?
Being controlled is humiliating. Someone having leverage over you is humiliating.

>NO. Where is the humiliation in being controlled by someone who has power over you?
I've just seen dirty breakups where women would use every flaw the guy have and publicly shame him.

Goddamn there really is no end to this

>>37110581
Cheated on his "loved one," he's planning on killing himself and her soon.

>>37110580
I'm trying to make her skinnier. I want her to try. She doesn't have a positive body image so I want her to look at herself and say I look good.

>>37110502
do people go to concerts on their own? It's not wierd is it? Asking for a friend

Just sit down and enjoy the danrail

>>37110360
>I am saying that the specific types of suffering entailed by relationships can be avoided by not having them.

Yes. And? You're still better off in a good relationship. You don't suffer in a good relationship.

Try convincing me that you're not arguing against relationships because that's easier than to actually make the effort to become husband material. Try.

>>37110621
You could give it another try tomorrow when everyone's simmered down if you like, Atlas. Alternatively I can try to help if there's something you'd like to discuss.

>>37110130
Captchas and the robot are both awful.
>>37110663
People do things by themselves all the time, it's not weird. I went to the movies by myself often. Getting family to go with me for Alien for birthday so that'll be fun.

>>37110362
>Sure, but you've never experienced X, so you can't judge it.
>But when it comes to Y, I can, because it's logical.

Nope, none of this happened. I said that suffering is present in relationships from the very beginning, to which you brought up the irrelevant facts that I haven't experienced one and that they have many pleasant aspects.

>>37110663
I think theres nothing wrong with it unless youre completly antisocial like me.

cant really tell how its on other concerts but I go only to metal and people there are very nice. Pretty much only people outside of my friends that I can tolerate.
If you go thre, you just get lost in the pit, so going with friends doesnt really matter for that part, its kind of akward if there is a pause and everyone goes for a beer and you jast stand there alone and wait.
But as I said, metalheads are very friendly people so you can just start chatting with pretty much anyone

>>37110403
>I like how you're assuming it's always about me fucking up in things I can control. Never because of looks, height, etc.

Because it never fucking is. All of these things are as nothing compared to your toxic attitude. Remember how you talked to Charlie? Yeah, that's why no woman wants you. It's not Chad's fault that you're a cunt to women.

>>37110403
>That is pretty hillarious.

I do my best.

>>37110403
>Interesting. The insult that I use most often is something that could be translated as filthy/fucking whore. So yes.

NICK'S TELEPATHIC ABILITIES STRIKE AGAIN. BEWARE THE MIND READER.

>>37110403
>I don't want to see people who got a pickaxe telling me I'm just lazy and that I should take responsibility.

They wouldn't, but they might give you the pick axe for a while, or forever. People aren't all pieces of shit, Dan.

People do realise what's fair and what's not. People know how to appreciate efforts, and people respect your hard work when you come from further away. They do.

Most people are pretty cool compared to the humans you've known, you just have to give them a fucking chance.

>>37110682
No, because I'm not arguing anything of the sort. Seriously, what the fuck?

>>37110439
>all I care about is reducing suffering.

You are a man in an oven pouring cold water on himself, sitting on ice cubes, convinced that this is how to reducing suffering and that this is all that matters. Get out of the oven and you won't have to focus on reducing suffering because you won't suffer anymore.

Learn the difference between good pain and bad pain. Some suffering isn't bad and is actually useful; some other suffering is useless and makes things worse.

You don't suffer usefully for now. Don't seek to avoid the pain, seek to get to a better place.

>>37110502

I might go to Portugal this summer. One of my best friends lives there and she's OK with the idea of me visiting. More than OK, she'd be happy if I did visit, so I'm considering.

>>37110712
Hmm.. never thought that you could go to a concert in your own. What if people find out?

Do people go to the movies by themselves a lot ?

>>37110690
Thanks but no, theres really nothing much important for me to discuss that hasnt been said already.
I just hoped I could react to some other people but there doesnt seem to be that many now.

>>37110663
i've never been to a concert since i dont see the point when i can just listen to music where ever. but i too have been afraid of doing stuff on my own, worried that people will think im weird.
but then again, will anyone even notice that you're there on your own?

when i say i, i mean it in general terms. it was a friend who told me that story.

>>>37110762
>Yeah, that's why no woman wants you. It's not Chad's fault that you're a cunt to women.
I'm a cunt to women, because they prefer Chads.

>People know how to appreciate efforts, and people respect your hard work when you come from further away. They do.
They appreciate it, but in the end they still get more for their hard. Just like a boss appreciates the work that the employees do, but he still takes the spoils.

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>>37110581

7-year relationship with Loved One. Fell in love with someone else, tried to keep both to preserve everyone at the expense of my sanity and morality. Days before marriage, I don't think I can spend the rest of my life in a lie, so I tell her everything. Hell for months. Complications, unending surreal events. Mental illness everywhere, discover my own abusive past, lose my parents forever, end up alone with nothing much beyond a job and a place.

Shouting at retarded Czech motherfuckers on Thursday evenings. Consider playing Skyrim once I get a new computer.

>>37110828
Fair enough then, have a (You) to be getting on with. It's normally more productive than this.

>>37110755
Huh, that's good to know. I'll look into it

>>37110580
It also seems like you're trying to shame me, but it's not going to work. I'd insult you, but there's no point. It's like breaking a broken toy, it can't get much more broke.

>>37110682
How common are good relationships? More than 50% of them? With no suffering at any point? Of course not. Just the severe suffering produce by a spouse's death is enough to ward me off of them. No need to seek an attachment with such a predictable negative outcome.

>>37110600
>I have one word for you. Cesarean.

Do notice that my question doesn't actually require you to have touched your mom's vagina.

>>37110600
>You do realize I only have to find one to prove you wrong?

Yes. It only adds to the strength of my statement, since you won't even find one.

>>37110600
>Being controlled is humiliating. Someone having leverage over you is humiliating.

Hierarchy is not humiliating, it's necessary. You're only a fool if you believe that being above always means being better. It's like you've never had a retarded boss or something.

>>37110600
>I've just seen dirty breakups where women would use every flaw the guy have and publicly shame him.

You may not have known both sides of the story. I never judge relationships because so much weird stuff can happen behind closed doors.

>>37110797
Dude, don't try to tell me what I'm feeling.

>>37110861
Well going to a concert and listening to recorded music is a copletely different experience.
Concerts are full of energy and feeling, may sound edgy but its my experience.
I just love to vent out everything and get crazy for a night, half of people there are too drunk to care and other half is there for the same reason so you dont have to be ashamed

>>37110820
Sounds fun, go enjoy some time out of the house.
>>37110825
>What if people find out?
So what if they do? Maybe they'll ask if they can go with you next time.
>Do people go to the movies by themselves a lot ?
Not around here, only things to do in this town are eat, fuck, watch movies, drink, pop pills, and go to the movies. But I do it and haven't gotten any looks that I've noticed.

>>37110649
>I'm trying to make her skinnier.

By telling her she's fat. Every day. Please just dump her to protect her. Nobody deserves this shit.

>>37110663

I did, but it's just sad.

>>37110690

Nobody needs to mind Dan and I. We can be background noise and not hinder any other discussion.

>>37110718
>Nope, none of this happened

I don't doubt it didn't happen in your mind, but that's what happened. If you go back to your original post, you'll find yourself judging the value of relationships on the whole.

>>37110773
>No, because I'm not arguing anything of the sort. Seriously, what the fuck?

Didn't you just say you thought it wiser to stay out of relationships?

>>37110963
>Do notice that my question doesn't actually require you to have touched your mom's vagina.
Yeah, in that case I haven't.

>Yes. It only adds to the strength of my statement, since you won't even find one.
Man do I feel like going to the club. Right now. To prove you wrong.

>You're only a fool if you believe that being above always means being better. It's like you've never had a retarded boss or something.
They earn more. They get more respect. They are better.

>>37111002
You really think I should?

>>37110825
>What if people find out?

Generally, if you're caught, people drag you to the stage, tear your clothes apart, and every single man in the audience gets to laugh at your penis. Then everyone shouts at you never to come to a concert without a friend. Such is life.

>>37111002
>We can be background noise
Not today Nick. This is the main event on today's menu. Too much fun to watch.

>>37110871
>I'm a cunt to women, because they prefer Chads.

You're a cunt to women before they have a chance to know who you are.

>being a cunt to a woman
>she doesn't like that
>she goes to someone else
>he becomes Chad by default because you say so

Spare me.

>>37111002
I kinda wish someone called me fat every day.

makes me work harder when Im pissed off instead of just everyday sad