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Stop Being a Manchild

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It's time for you all to grow up.

http://nypost.com/2017/05/13/childish-men-are-to-blame-for-women-having-kids-late-in-life/
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this is the natural result of video games and other types of escapism being really fucking cool in modern day

as technology gets better, the problem will only get worse
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>nypost
I only read mature papers for mature readers such as myself.
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>>37002897
I want your pic to bully me SO HARD
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>>37002897
Time for women to stop being unreasonable and assume their own part of their bargain. Or else the civilization will inevitably collapse in a few decade.

We can't be picky if we want to have the chance to survive as a specie.
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>>37002897
If roasties didnt take all the fucking jobs, then maybe some men could move out of the basement.

I was a good student, sort of wanted to go to law school, but it is too competitive, and law firms trip over themselves to hire roasties and niggers. Good fucking luck if you're a white dude that's not an uber Chad.

Other job tracks don't really appeal to me.

So Im almost 30 and just living the sweet NEET life now. I'm never going to be marriage material or capable of supporting a kid. It's WAY too much stress these days, and not worth it.
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This is the kind of shit that got Trump into office despite all his racist and sexist bullshit. Double down and keep blaming whites and males for everything though, wouldn't be surprised if militias start forming soon. Except it's worse, citizens owning firearms were rare in Italy and Germany and their governments and media didn't actively shit on them at every opportunity
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>>37002897
>stacys are finally realizing that they behavior has turned men off of women entirely
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Kinda stupid really that they think men with positions in advance of theirs will give them the time of day.
I don't know how women this absolutely dense and inflexible make so much god damned money but that's life in 2017 I suppose.
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>>37002897
I like boobs and abusive women.
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>>37003091
>I don't know how women this absolutely dense and inflexible make so much god damned money

They get the jobs because of diversity requirements.
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>>37002897
>http://nypost.com/2017/05/13/childish-men-are-to-blame-for-women-having-kids-late-in-life/
Fuck off you just want chad and beta bucks.
Not falling for this shit
Get money
oy vey
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To fight my irrational hate for black people and to make my inner self realize how important and enriching they are for our society I have decided to invite a strong black man to inseminate my wife. Hopefully one day we'll be living in a world where no one would ever need to experience such a primitive and irrational hate against another group of people.
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>>37002897
Keep blaming men for everything. That will surely make them want to marry you.
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>>37002897
>Moreover, today's young, childless female city-dwellers with college degrees are out-earning their male counterparts by 8 cents on the dollar.

B-but what about the wage-gap?

W-what about the patriarchy?

Can we get an informed, intelligent (female, obviously) to explain this to an uninformed, unintelligent male like myself?
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>>37002897
didn't this bitch fuck up her ears and nose?
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The new York post is probably the shittiest news company in new york (ny resident here) only retards read that filth anyway, it's like the news version of clickbait
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>>37002897
>treat men as the disposable gender
>punish/ridicule men for not keeping traditional male roles while women are encouraged to do whatever they want
>tell men that they must always put women above themselves and put them on a pedestal
>after all this, reward men with a 50% marriage success rate with used goods
gee, really pokes the pickle as to why men dont want to play the game anymore
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>>37003259
She's spoony. And gave herself elf-ears with surgery.
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>>37002897
>just stop being what you are it's that easy

g g g g o fuck yourself! also

>nypost

get the fuck out of here lmao
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>For some young college educated women, an older partner may work. Middle-aged men place a higher value on marriage and parenthood than their younger counterparts do
It's true desu. Middle-aged men are best men.
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>>37002897
nypost like dailymail runs off outrage clicks to survive

congrats on feeding this stupidity
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>>37003021
>complains about how girls have taken all the jobs
>hasn't tried taking any jobs at all


Like pottery
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>>37003261
It's owned by Rupert Murdock via Newscorp(Fox News, FOX, Sky News, NYPost, HeatSt, and Wall St Journal)
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>>37002897
>There are too many women and men have too much power
I must have forgot that
All the 100s of messages I get from women to sort through give me so much power
It's not like dating isn't still completely skewed to women's advantage where decent guys end up as incels
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>>37002897
I don't care about your faggot thread, but I want the source on those titties.
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>>37003259
>>37003365
are there more pictures?
im curios about her elf-ears and fake tits
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>>37003045
that what you dumb whites get for empowering your sluts

t. ayyrab
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>>37003584
They don't consider you a man, Chad is a man to them and he's in short supply
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>>37003485
I have tried. I've done my research.

You don't throw a pig off bridge and expect to it to fly when you've pushed off a stool without results and read time and time again that it'll never happen.
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>autists thinking OP agrees with nypost and isn't just fishing for (You)'s
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>>37002897
Sounds a lot like not-my-fuckin-problem.

>Today's empowered young women are not only placing greater value on the importance of marriage and parenthood than the generation that precedes them, they also value high paying careers more than ever. And millennial men? They're lagging behind.

If you don't agree with her LITERAL OPINION then you're lagging behind. The only enlightened option is what she thinks and the alternative is being childish. If you don't agree with her, she doesn't want to date you, but she's also going to complain about you in the newspaper.

I can't wait for all the generations before me to fucking die so they can't talk about millennials anymore.
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The side section is interesting...
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>>37002940
No, this is a result of baby boomers coddling their children and ruining the economy and lives for everybody else.

Also yes its OUR fault that women choose careers over men, and spreading their legs for every tom, dick, and harry in the world and getting abortions. HOW DARE US!
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>>37003638
Probably the only thing you ahmeds do right. Giving women political power was a mistake that we are still paying for...
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>women are finding out the hard way that men don't give a fuck about their careers and will always go for a woman who is young and supple than for a woman who has turned off relationships for the past 10-20 years to focus on her career and is now 30+

Good.
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>8 cents is the reason there are more independent women by 6%

Yeah, I bet that $150 extra a year is real noticeable there sweetheart.
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>>37002897
>stronk womym need no man
>wah wah evil men are not doing what I want them to do for me wah wah

Grow the fuck up you retarded womanchildren.
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>>37003811
Because millennial men place greater value on you not being a busted up waste with your looks down the drain and are still fucking 18 year olds.
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>>37003968
Nah there's just no perspective anymore. I mean unless you won the gene lottery and are the chads of chads there's really no point in trying anymore. Why marry and get kids as a man when your wife can turn your life into a nightmare legally? Doesn't mean that every or even most women would do something like that but just the fact that a woman could do something like that on a whim and there's nothing you can do about it is what keeps the men away.
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>>37002897
You're right, that picture is painfully pathetic. Too desperate.
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>>37004047
>Why marry and get kids as a man when your wife can turn your life into a nightmare legally?
if every man thought like you, you wouldnt exist

stop being a pussy. men in this age are too scared of women theyd rather play video games than the dating scene, its pathetic no wonder women dont want them
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>>37003894
I don't even care about them being young. Just don't be a slut and don't be a single mom. That's not that hard.
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>>37003365
>spoony
SpoonyOne?
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I make 80k/yr at 25 and am 5'10.


And can't find a single childless woman to date to save my life.

I'm not exceedingly good looking, so I assume that's the issue.
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>>37004107
you're god damn right they're scared. and they should be. society caters to women so fucking hard. a women can hit you square in the jaw with no repercussions, and if you fight back you're going to fucking prison. a woman can get a prenup thrown out and take half of your hard earned shit, your home, your kids. a women has a gaggle of orbiters that will fuck your life up if you so much as send her a weird text

i'm scared of lions too, and for good reason

tl;dr you're a fucking idiot
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>Their higher incomes may be why they are less likely (29 percent) to be living with their parents than single men (35 percent).

I KNEW LIVING WITH YOUR PARENTS IN YOUR 20S ISNT RARE
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>>37004107
>if every man thought like you
Yeah and if everyone was gay we wouldn't exist either. It doesn't need to everyone, it's just that there's enough now that it is noticeable. And if nothing changes it's going to increase even more.
It's also not that men are scared of women, they're scared of the system that supports women if they decide to turn your life into a shitshow.
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>"Well, anon? I'm ready to accept your seed. Are you ready to share the responsibility?"
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>>37004377
she's kinda cute, i might cuck my life up for some of that action honestly
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>>37004176
What do you do for a living?

At least you can take comfort in being self-sufficient and not having to rely on anyone.

I'm almost 30 and probably haven't made $50k total yet.
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>>37003638
It's out of our hands. Ever hear the phrase "cognitive elite" ?

Please watch this 3 minute nature documentary clip narrated by David Attenborough for an accurate analogy of what's happening to Western society since at least the mid 1960s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKjBIBBAL8
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>>37004462
the parasites are in total control

the only solace is that the parasite kills its host
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>>37004377
what the fuck is wrong with her eyebrows
gross
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>>37004377
would breed so hard tbhonesto
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>>37004377
>nose ring

auto-nope

same with tattoos tbqh
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>>37004583
as if you'll ever be in a position to make that decision you virgin beta boy~
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>>37004583
>"And what about now, anon? What's your latest excuse for not being man enough to give me a child?"
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>>37004631
M O M M Y
Orignal
M
M
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>>37004107
You go play the roastie roulette, I would sooner take my chances with a russian one. At least that shit is over quickly.
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>>37004631
post her ass
more of her ass!!!
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>>37002897

"Childish men." Maybe that's why nobody wants to breed with these kind of people. women have such an inflated sense of expectations out of me and they all seem pretty similar to materialism.

>productive
>more career aspects
>more money
>successful in a high paying career
>yadda yadda yadda

Sure, I get the money part, but I just throw that shit in the bank instead of making it a dire need and I sort of pretend it doesn't exist. It's funny that all women will call me "Childish" as if that's a bad thing. They want to be extremely serious in every aspect of life and they always end up being miserable. They have no imagination, just degradation. They just want to acquire money like a robot for no purpose whatsoever expect living up to a status quo by pretending to be a queen. No fun, no joy, no thrill, no imagination, not one day where they're patient and think "Man I want to play some video games or build some gunpla models." It's always money and attention with them. It's why they get ballistic when they see guys have fun with seemingly "pointless" shit. She minds me of pic related, always dickriding the king for status quo and even near death, she never really cared for him Perfect analogy for modem women. What a pitiful gender.
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>>37002897
I love how this article treats the obvious solution of women lowering their standards and dating somebody with less money than them as essentially unthinkable. Literally women failing to adapt to the situation they've created.
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It's really interesting to think that Spoony has been a persistent "personality" of this website for nearly a decade

Imagine how hot she was when she first started. She was in her absolute prime as a young woman.

Imagine what she must be like now by comparison. "Still OK" but saggier, looser, less perky on every single level, in every single way, and getting worse and worse by the day.
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>be me
>literally beta
>actual nice guy
>best friend to women
>they all act like radical feminist
>stop talking to them


maybe they don't like me but right now i'm going through a weird alcoholic existential crisis type of thing
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>>37004868
None of her pics in this thread are more than 3 years old.
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>>37004868
she probably created/posts her pictures in this thread just to get more attention
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Honestly I see a lot of young males go that route. They'd rather stay with their parents and spend the money they earn on themselves rather on gfs or god forbid, start their own family. Not all of them are NEETs or virgins but they won't really go after a more serious relationship, at all.
Like would you live or work together with niggers if they were free to murder you without any consequences? Most niggers probably wouldn't murder you but the fact they have get a free pass if they ever decide to do so would make it so nobody wanted to work or live with them.
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>>37002897
>women are total thot sluts in their teens and 20's
>completely alienate betas into either becoming lonely academics or basement dwellers

>women reach late 20's/early 30's
>realize chad doesn't wanna settle down either
>suddenly finds the betas also aren't interested
HAHAHAHAHAHA
STUPID FUCKING SLUTS BTFO FINALLY
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>>37004107

>men in this age are too scared of women theyd rather play video games than the dating scene

protip: there is a reason for that. relationships are a basic cost/benefit analysis. women and men both do it.

what reason does a man have to marry a woman if she can no-fault divorce him at any point and take half of his shit with literally zero warning?
why would a man have kids with a woman when they might not be his, but he'll still legally be responsible for them?
why would a man enter a relationship at all if marriage/kids isn't a possibility?

oh right, sex. you're openly admitting a woman's value in a relationship is the possibility of sex. i thought we were past that, hmm?
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>>37002940
Women are too hard to get. I shouldn't have to put in millions of times more effort while chad doesn't put in much of any effort. Even ugly girls have outrageous standards.
>>37003860
>and spreading their legs for every tom, dick, and harry in the world

Except they don't. They spread it for chad, chad and sometimes tyrone.
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>"Anon, look... Are you ready?"
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>>37005030
But anon it's just that females can do whatever the hell they want! Males should take responsibilities while women can enjoy their privileges without having to think or face the consequences! That's the power of independent and strong women!
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>>37002897
>young females with college degrees are out earning their male counterparts by 8 cents on the dollar

MUH WAGE GAP

I NEED PATRIARCHY
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This is simple. There's no incentive. Don't you think if being a parent were actually the most awesome thing in the world that everyone would do it? Don't you think that if being married were the best thing in the world, guys would do it?

They're not. Everyone sees through the bullshit. Marriage is a dying institution. The birth rate drops every year. Women have to find a way to make the family life more appealing than video games, anime and porn. Good fucking luck.
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>>37002897
Spoony is a goddess.

Tfw spoony will never momdom you.
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>>37002940

naww i agree with>>37003860

this is really more about the current state of the economy and also hypergamy through social media.
now both parents have to work to support family, women usually becomes resentful because no matter how much she wants to believe she is a "strong independent womyn" deep in the back of her brain she feels she should be taken care of by her husband. "i have to be a mother and work full time?? this isnt fair imma find me a real man who will take care of me"
then moves on to some older beta cuck who has been working some high end job the last 20 years and is willing to blow everything to finally get some pussy
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how will women make marriage and families more attractive to men..........

i dont think they can is the thing
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>>37002897

>women want equal workforce opportunities
>enter the workforce and start earning money alongside men
>females are only attracted to high status males
>a man who earns less money than her is inherently lower status than her
>men with low incomes don't want to start families

wow what a shocking happenstance
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>>37005403
generations are a meme you dip, social and economic changes that happened over the last few decades are much more important than a label you can put on people depending on when they were born.
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>>37005013
i somewhat agree with you but at the same time this is pretty much saying never take a chance at a romantic relationship, because technically yes its the smart thing to do if you dont want to be emotionally hurt.. which is going to happen, undoubtedly, but if you go i knowing that then it wont hit you quite so hard...
idk i guess id rather just have high highs in life and those come with the low lows lol. but some people dont wanna ride the wave bruh and just want to play it safe and never take any risks, matter of preference i guess
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Women should fuck off to some other planet and stop blaming men for everything. Get a grip (of a dick) or get your eggs fertilized in some laboratory.
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>>37005504
People are usually willing to take risks if said risks aren't something that may ruin your life. Getting emotionally burned is bad enough but imagine you have no way out if wifey takes your child and financial stability away.
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>>37005488
i agree w/ u, i was mostly agreeing with >>37003860 just because of the economy being a bigger factor than escapism as the dude in the first post said

i see escapism as more of a side affect rather than cause
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>>37005554
>imagine you have no way out if wifey takes your child and financial stability away.
this wouldnt happen if you were an alpha male

why are always dads in divorce cases huge beta faggots and the wife some take charge bitch?
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>>37002897
>It's all men's fault!
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>Men need to grow up!
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>>37005590
>he thinks alpha males don't get destroyed in divorces

wew nothing can save you. this article is from today. record-breaking cucking.
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>>37005650
this belongs in a thread called 'you feel homicidal urges you lose'
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>>37005653
Source:http://www.businessinsider.com/london-high-court-rules-russia-born-billionaire-to-pay-453-million-in-a-divorce-settlement-2017-5.

453 mil for being a house wife.
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>>37002897
>nypost
discarded
also, go to plebbit, it's better for you
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>>37005653
the guy was rich doesnt mean hes alpha
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At 20 I feel like a battered soul under fire in all aspects of my life. Why did the boomers allow society to get this bad? Fuck it, I'm going back to my videogames.
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>>37005712
I know exactly how you feel. I feel like everyday I am under attack.
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>>37003894
crazy how the roles have switched
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>>37002897
>woman with career...
>woman with career...
>woman with career...
men are to blame for this.
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>>37002897
>Some blame women for being naive about their fertility, as if we had no monthly reminder of our own ticking clock.

r9k ear right again, TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK
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>>37005760
women are not seeking young inexperienced guys with no cash and who live with their parents. roles have no reversed
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>>37003061
That's not even what they're arguing. The article is literally complaining that women earn more than men and now women don't have enough successful chads to choose from.
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>>37002897
i'm fine with being a manchild neet, females can have their chads. I just feel like if i did get a girlfriend i wouldn't be socially adept to keep one. Females standards have gotten ridiculously high, so it's better to sit back and watch there idea of finding the perfect mate fall and crash to the ground. single mothers provide the best lolz
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>>37005590
Don't buy into the memes, friend. But even if we go with the memes, an alpha male also has no reason to marry and have kids because the time will come when there will be hotter, younger women to be had but with marriage and children you'd give the woman all the tools needed to put you on a very tight leash.
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>>37005819
those sorts of men used to be taken care of by society.
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this bitch is like 30 now, stop fucking posting her granny ass with max contrast, and her pictures from 1997
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>>37005740
I swear to good my non-meme depression was cause in part by the radical ideological shifts in mainstream culture. It is so disheartening to interject tweets by rainbow haired young women with no maternal incentives who use the word fuckboi liberally, it is so surreal when comedy central plays shows with comedians who only rip on people based on arbitrary bullshit. Nobody is saying any thing, I feel lost. Why can't people try to be decent? My experience in life has taught me my mutilated genitalia should be moisturized whenever it gets unnaturally dry, but also something unrelated to the matter concerning the size of my dick, something I can't control. I feel aged. I can only withdraw myself It seems.
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>>37005841
no they weren't, they were outcasted as losers, socially inept spergs more taboo than anything. society has never cared for young men in their 20s who arent sexual experienced and have no desire to start a family
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>>37005819
Nah, back then people got married early because it wasn't unheard of that you'd start out relatively poor but had a good perspective of getting somewhat wealthy later on.
Today's dating market is like the job market, you should be young but also should have the experience and skills of someone who worked in that field for 5+ years.
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>>37005826
Our parents failed us, our grandparents failed us. They raised a generation of men who have no definition of masculinity whilst they discarded the female uniform in its entirety. Nothing about a relationship with a modern woman seems appealing, rather I'd be one to assume it is greatly taxing and unnecessary.
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>>37005921
>Nothing about a relationship with a modern woman seems appealing, rather I'd be one to assume it is greatly taxing and unnecessary.
why does this hurt so much but feels true? is this the black pill? i just want to lead a family and be a good guy...
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>>37005686
>too stupid and/or new to see that this thread was made to bait (You)'s
>tells other people to leave
child please
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Why do all that work and suffer when video games are infinitely more enjoyable than this dating stuff.
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>>37005892
Young men in their twenties were already working most of the time. They weren't rich or wealthy when they started out, but promotions were a realistic option if you didn't fuck up on a regular basis. I was also important to get married somewhat early because people believed that a woman was needed in a man's life to provide him with support and care but also kick him in the butt when he started to slack off, so leaving a young man unmarried for too long was something people tried to avoid.
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>>37005921
>Nothing about a relationship with a modern woman seems appealing

ain't this the damn truth. maybe for men like us, it's that way. because socializing isn't fun, it's a fucking nightmare half the time.
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>>37005921
I'd say feminism played a big part, and I don't mean the usual anti-feminism meme. Rather, while feminism liberated the female gender from their traditional roles, men have been left behind in the dust, it's expected of them to both adhere to the new role of the female which is do whatever the fuck you want but also keep their traditional role as a provider and protector. It's obvious that this will clash because what you expect of women also affects men and vice versa. Men are hanging in a limbo right now where there's no right choice to be made or direction you could take.
People tend to forget that women are humans too and if you give a group of humans more rights and privileges than another group that you'll have an imbalance that's easy to abuse.
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>>37005961
because actual sex is better than jerking off?
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>>37006088
The amount of effort required is not worth it and perhaps some of the men here will never have the skills necessary to have sex.
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>>37002897
>woman blames everyone but herself for her problems
>news
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>I just want a husband who isn't a child!
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>>37006088
hmmm wonder who could be behind this post..
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>>37006033
>Men are hanging in a limbo right now where there's no right choice to be made or direction you could take.
this is how I feel what do I do?? I have a job I earn less than 12 thou a year finished junior college with an AA in bus management/marketing
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>>37005650
Literally, alpha fucks beta bucks.
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>don't look for a relationship in their 20s when they are still attractive
>now they are ready "to settle down", with fast declining looks and their bedpost covered in notches
There's actually some hope left in humanity when you read that article.
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>>37006088
You know what's better than jerking off with my hands? Jerking off with an onahole.

I have like 5 in my closet that I don't even use anymore because I'm too lazy to clean them afterwards.
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I always find it funny/sad to read these articles because I'm a well educated 29 year old who makes pretty good money (basically, the sort of guy supposedly in demand) but women still won't even give me the time of day.
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>>37005958
I still have to post to show newcomers the dominating narrative in this place.
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>>37006180
Date 18yo.
Who cares about morals.
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>>37006215
well said

origibwbwwb
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>I just want to settle down while I'm still young! Honest! I just can't find any mature men!
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>I don't do hookups. * wink wink *
>Serious relationships only. * wink wink *
>I've had too many sexual encounters to remember them all.
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>>37006326
Stupid fucking roasties

Honestly I hate these women, they are so fucking hypocritical and pathetic

Muslim societies who oppress women have it right
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>>37006235

Women in general don't want anything to do with me, whether they are 18 or 28.

It's just that if these articles were to be believed, I should be fending off women with a stick, not sitting a home on a Friday night, jerking off to cops with the terminal loneliness.

Basically, the real message is that there aren't enough hot guys with money and degrees to go around.
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>>37006352
They want a high status man , not some dude that has a McJob and lives with his 'rents.
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So wait if society is pressuring boys/men to not want relationships because women are too demanding

where does that leave chads? If they are all hot but not working won't that make even women not want them?
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>>37006426

Yes. But also one who is hot, since, as I said, I'm educated, make good money, and live on my own but still get the same level of interest from women as when I was a NEET: none.
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>>37006137
You really can't other than making your voice heard, I guess. Too bad MRA is still a forced meme at this point. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Being a reclusive virgin isn't something that's very fulfulling but on the other hand having a relationship with a woman might fuck you over for a long, long time.
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>where does that leave chads? If they are all hot but not working won't that make even women not want them?

No, they're the ones not marrying women and creating single mothers lol
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>I want to marry you!
>Tell me about your past.
>T-the... my past doesn't mater!
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>>37006450
>Not taking women by force, jus tlike in the good ole' days.
Or you can lightplay it and come very strong onto while being authoritative.
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>>37006159
I'd say the biggest enemies of modern feminism in the near future will be the women that are now in their 20's/30's.
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>>37006455
>on the other hand having a relationship with a woman might fuck you over for a long, long time.
it did for my dad and i definitely dont to end up like him. 5 sons and none of them have had gfs or plan to get one and just play vidya all day. its fucking sad i don't want to be alonely virgin but I don't want to get divorced later and ruin everything! fucj what do I do
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>>37006487

Wat

Oreganol
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>>37006482
She's so selfish

"My dream is ruined"
"My family wasn't supportive"
"I wanted a big wedding"

Is she paying for this wedding? Does she care about how her fiance's heart was broken by her nonsense?

Fuck her
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>>37006531
Woman like it when you tell them what to do. Pic related.
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>>37006517
You have to understand what you actually want. If you do want to marry and start a family then your path is clear, but you should be very careful on how you approach these things - but you should approach them regardless.
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>>37006562

Yes.

I am not a very aggressive or dominant guy, so, as I said, women don't want me.
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>>37006598
Gotta change bruh.
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>>37006562
Don't forget that people are larping all the time. That story of yours doesn't look very convincing.
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>>37006614

You can't change some things that are fundamental to you.

I've accepted I'm going to be alone. That's how it is. Any attempt to change would just be putting on a fake costume, and most people can see through it,

It makes me sad, sure. I'm still a heterosexual guy, after all. But I, most days, have come to some acceptance of it. It helps that I can indulge pretty much every other desire with my huge amounts of discretionary income, though. It's gotten to where I just give lots of it away to random people sonde I have nothing else to spend it on.
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>>37002897
the problem is that men just want sex with as many women as possible in their lifetimes but they hate when women want the same thing. sexist freaks!
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>>37006635
Then try it to test it.
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>>37006618
>ill come to nyc and suck your dick
oh wow! fucking roasties, my man!
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>>37006482
Why post the second part of the story?
Should have posted the first one.
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>>37002897
Umm spermbanks are a thing, why dont they just head there? For what do they need man for, arent they stronk independent women who need no man?
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>>37006817
It's the usual PUA bullwank, if you really want to believe that, go ahead, nobody is going to stop you.
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>>37002897
I don't care much about the evolutionary psychology pseudo-science in this thread. I just want women to know that men have feelings, desires, and goals in life. It is wrong to treat men like something that just walks into your life for the sole purpose of giving you kids, paying rent, and enhancing your social standing.

I'm not a sperm donor or an atm! I'm a man! I like naruto and going to the gym and reading science fiction and learning! I want to learn two more languages, have three children, and live long enough to see a Mars colony! I am a human being you selfish roastie sluts, not a supporting character in your life story!

Acknowledge me, don't disrespect me and tell me I'm a manchild just because i am alive and i have feelings!
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>>37006901
This. There's also this thing called co-parenting 'dating' where you can find a partner to have a child with, without the romance. It's like a sperm donor but he helps the woman raise the child.
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>>37002897
It's women's fault for literally being less interesting than fucking video games. Absolutely pathetic.
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>>37003256
>Young, childless, female city-dweller
Yes, because this is the only demographic of women that matters. Fuck traditionally minded rural or suburban women, and definitely fuck any woman who's too old to sell her soul for Chad's cock. Only metroroasties count as "women" now.
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>>37003345
This. Would you punish/ridicule children who realize carnival games are rigged and stop playing them? No. This is the same concept. Marriage is not a sensible proposition for the modern man. Shame him all you want, but that's not going to convince him to play a losing game. It'll only get worse from here, lads.
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>>37006942
You're such a beta. Alphas just do what they want and take it, they don't state their itinerary
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>>37007161
You can try to idolize muh real men however you want, it's not going to change anything. Shaming people into behaving how you want them to behave via an idolized role model isn't going to work and never has.
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>all the "young" women in the example are over 30
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>>37007221
Well what do you expect they're in denial that they fucked up so they call themselves """young""" because if you're young you still have ample opportunities to fix everything.
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>>37007195
I disagree bullying is good reinforcement and most of the time when people do it it's because they have your long term happiness in mind. a real man doesnt have to say hes proud of what he is or flash attitude to prove worth, this has never changed
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>>37002897
Woman with white collar jobs don't want to date non blue collar men , and are surprised that they aren't enough of them .
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>>37007221
>forget to get off the cock carousel
>b-but I'm still so young! its not too late for me!
>fucking childish men can't commit!

It is unironically hilarious
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Imagine being a giga-Chad who could get any woman he wants and women would want him, you could just live off of them as they work for you and then dump them when you get bored and find a new purse owner to live off of.
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>>37007256
People bully because you know that the person you bullied is in a worse situation than you so you can feel better for a time. You point at your victim and say "Look, everyone! That's not me that lies face down in the dirt! That's someone else!"
That's all there is to it.
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>>37005650
I hope whoever made this ghosted the roastie right after.
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>>37007386
>tfw giga-chad is essentially a roastie with a dick
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>>37006129
This gets me more than anything else. For some reason women are allowed to have super high standards, but if men dare have any standards it's "hurrr that's why you're alone, you only want 10s and you're a fat virgin neckbeard etc. etc. ad hominem ad hominem"
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>>37002897

>blaming female irresponsibility on men
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>>37002897
Childish men aren't to blame for women having kids later on, cunty women are.

None of these roasties in the article she mentions have to go without. Female loneliness is a literal fucking meme.

The fact that they won't even consider the possibility of any men outside of their undeserved socio-economic status just illustrates what shallow, arrogant cunts they truly are.

Hope their ovaries rot and fall out and this whole shitty planet comes to an end. It won't be "childish men", but female cuntyness.
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>>37005653
They were married 20 years. She raised his child from his first marriage. She also raised the two children that he sired with her. All 3 are adults. All 3 were raised by her without a nanny.
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>>37002897
>Moreover, today's young, childless female city-dwellers with college degrees are out-earning their male counterparts by 8 cents on the dollar.

WHOA WHOA WHOA
Hold on there, I thought it was the other way around! Well, his is fantastic news, why am I only hearing about this now?
If women are so great, maybe they should just WOMAN UP and fucking deal with it.
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>>37006286
>1/6 women admitted to cheating on their boyfriends
so there really is no such thing as a good woman...
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While more women become more successful in their careers, most of those women still expect their future husbands to earn more and be even more successful.

Where a woman with a mediocre job might consider settling for a guy with an average job because that's still considered better paying and more "successful" than her job, a career woman expecting to find a more successful man than she is effectively reduces her dating pool to a tiny size; the bottom 10% of the top 20% men she may deemed good enough to "settle with" is not only available to them, forcing them to indeed compete excessively.

It's only the successful women demanding a man at least somewhat better than her at bare minimum, who end up with this problem. Sadly this is the majority of successful women, as "marrying up" (financial stability and success wise) as a woman is pretty much the standard still.
Some women do date "down" financially speaking, and if both parties can accept and embrace that, there's zero issues and for the women there's plenty of men to pick from whom are great catches in many other aspects. Said women tend to be happier and find fulfillment in starting a family before age 50 and whatnot.

The moment the majority of (financially) successful women no longer has such high career expectations in their potential partners, the problem will no longer be present.
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>>37007629
I know you're baiting but I'll bite anyways. There are people of both genders that have done the same thing she has or more and won't see even a fraction of that amount of money. Being rewarded such an obscene sum of money for doing what people have been doing for free for thousands of years is insane.
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>>37002897
PLEASE post more new Spoony, or link the source. Please senpai.
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>>37007687
Why is no one criticizing modern career women to not expect a traditional role when a traditional role would have prevented them from having a career in the first place?
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>>37005653
>russian-born billionaire
At what point will that guy notice that a hired gun or car accident is a lot cheaper?
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>>37005993
Speak for yourself, not all of us are that autistic. I've had friends before, and I liked socializing with them. If you've ever had a friend before then you've had fun socializing. Hell, even if you are autistic, you can still enjoy socializing. Autistic people have friends.
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>>37007703
I'm just saying if one ever gets rich and ends up with a traditional house wife, things will get really sour if it ends in divorce. It's true that people of both genders have done the same thing for thousands of years, and never see that kind of money.

However, that logic is also the same logic behind many career driven women. The logic being they need a career because an eventual marriage could end in eventual divorce, and they say they need a career as protection against this for their livelihood. The rabbit hole these days is never ending.
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>>37006517
5 sons that play vidya all day? How has your dad not shot himself yet?
Does your dad play vidya too?
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The day of the water rope will set these degenerate whores free
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>>37007703
It's necessary to prevent rich guys from having kids with a woman, then kicking her out on the street when they turn 18 with no resources of her own because she spent all her time raising the kids.

If she didn't raise those kids and focused on her own career, you have to take that into account of how much she would have.

>Being rewarded such an obscene sum of money for doing what people have been doing for free for thousands of years is insane.
Do you really think people did it "for free"? Most people did it because they had to just to survive. I wouldn't say that's "for free".
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>>37007740
Because it tends to look suspicious when you are asked to pay 435 million dollars and then the recipient of said sum suddenly dies an untimely death.
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>>37007793
Yeah but it should be an amount that's relative to the wealth the woman would've had and not the other way around.
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>>37007774
>women
>needing protecting after divorce
I thought the current meta was that they are getting half of all that the man earned in burger land? I'm from swedistan so I can just speak for myself, but here the women have no problem surviving a divorce. We basically pay them just to be degenerate whores all day
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>>37007829
I guess everyone knows that one horror story of the woman who is divorced and ends up with nothing. I know one. I mean, there's plenty of woman who end up really well off in divorce, but there's some who get zilch. It's a lottery. The ones who end up with zilch are the fuel that feeds that fire. Or they end up with a settlement, but the father also walks out on his kids. The money ends up not being enough to provide the children a good life, and the woman has no education and fast food doesn't pay the bills. I dunno', as I said, it's the few in those predicaments that feed the fire of many career driven women.
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>>37007778
No my mom divorced him but then got cancer and died. long story short it broke up my family and my brothers retreated into the internet and videogames and my dad became a shell of his former self. my dad is authoritative but my brothers dont respect him at all just mooch and pretend theyre sticking around because they care so much when they couldnt help him if he needed it.

they are all kissless virgins and don't have any inclination to start families. its really sad and I can only imagine my dads frustration and disappointment. the worst part is my mom wanted a big family but then she and my dad fought over roles and shit and she died, so them not going out doing anything is like the biggest slight towards what they had in mind for us.
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>>37007774
That's retarded, I don't think anyone believes career-driven women are the way they are because "they might get a divorce". They aren't the ones who typically have half their shit taken from them during a divorce.
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>>37007785
tell me,plese, what is a water rope?
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>>37007873
You haven't talked to enough career women then. Not that you'd likely want to.
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>>37002897
Allah Akbar I should have 4 wife's.
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>>37007687
but wouldnt it be fair for both partners to be earning the same just to make it fair when they live together or something? if someone is earning more then they would be paying more of the bills.
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>>37007876
I'm sorry anon, if I do you'll have to face their fate as well. But know this, it will be glorious
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>>37007951
>if someone is earning more then they would be paying more of the bills.
typically the man would cover that.
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>>37007762
I want to put my dick inside her.
Unsurprisingly unoriginal.
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>>37007867
I couldn't care less though, I want them to be left homeless and poor. We have a power balance that needs to be restored
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>>37007974
they shouldn't. if i was married i would make my wife pay 50/50 in rent. its only fair if she wants to live comfy.
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>>37007987
Screaming 'homeless and poor' will not turn a nation of whores into housewives. The power balance you speak of will never be restored unless both sides are on board.
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>>37007888
You're right I haven't talked to many career women but
>believing what women tell you
No woman ever has tried to advance professionally because they are afraid of coming up with the short end of the stick during a divorce. They are ambitious because they want a man who is just as successful or more so. By demonstrating their status as a business woman, she intimidates and weeds out the weaker men.
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>>37007961
y u wunnoo haign me?
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>>37007997
She'll need a career to pay that rent.
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>>37007716
Because any man publicly criticizing anything woman-related issues can easily lose any and all of his reputation if the wrong people decide it's unacceptable criticism.
We sadly live in a society where a minority of loud bad apples within a group that's labeled a minority or underrepresented (e.g. women, non-whites, etc.) can destroy individuals outside that group with fair ease.

If an influential man was voice criticism with even the softest of kid gloves, he could still lose everything he has if a band of Feminazis decide to call him a woman-hater, oppressor, enforcer of patriarchy, or even call him rapist without him ever touching anyone without written and vocal consent. That's quite a risky thing just to try and help out those career women seemingly unhappy with their current predicaments.

We'd need a very successful woman to voice her criticism if we don't want the message to be disregarded, preferably one who married a man less successful and average looking at best, yet looking incredibly happy together; ideally for many years already.

Good luck finding a woman like that though, even rarer to find one actually willing to speak out publicly.
That's sadly the only type of person capable of criticizing the current "issue" with some chance of it being heard.
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>>37008033
that's a nice post but I hate having to agree with it, I'd wish the whole "that which must not, can not be" mentality would finally go away.
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>>37008011
That logic is a bit flawed. She was never even looking at "weaker" men in the first place. There's nothing to weed out when the woman can choose who she mates with in the first place. A broke woman can weed out "weaker" men if she so chooses. Plus, nothing has ever insinuated that rich men want career wives. Most rich men end up with house wives.
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>>37008033
It's true that it would take a woman to convince women to seek traditional roles. Actually, it would take an army of women to convince other women to seek traditional roles. Some do speak for this, and they still get shot down just like the men. Told they're 'pandering to the patriarchy'. There's simply not enough to make their voice heard.
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>>37007256
nah bruh they only bully to feel better and more smug about themselves to one up someone else. simple really.
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>>37008143
Or they realize it themselves. Currently they're trying to blame others or justify it in whatever way possible but at the end of the day, if you have nothing to eat you can't discuss the hunger away but have to face the reality, so to speak.
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>>37007793
>If she didn't raise those kids and focused on her own career, you have to take that into account of how much she would have.

Wouldn't be anywhere near 435 million dollars that's for sure
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>>37008110
>the woman can choose who she mates with in the first place

This applies to the average woman and your regular joe blow, but if she really wants the most successful men, she's still going to have to bring something to the table other than a vagina. Either model 10/10 good looks, a great personality, fame, or a good job. Again she is not worried at all about the possibility of a divorce because the guy should be more successful than she is.
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>>37007793
It's not necessary to give her half a billion dollars

Give her at most, at the absolute most, the wage she would have made by her demonstrated career path, not wishy washy "Yeah I'd make a bajillion dollars from my makeup business!" estimates. And for a year or two when she gets back on her feet

This government enforced welfare of women is disgusting, they treat women like babies who get everything free
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>>37008181
You don't have to have a husband to access services to freeze eggs nor to access a sperm bank. You don't need a husband to access the wealth of fertility services. What'll happen is there will be a rise of single mothers and truly bastard children raised by nannies while their mothers work during the week.

They may get sad about it, but that won't stop them from knocking themselves up in a lab.
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>>37008252
But these services are expensive and the coming automatisation will not help with paying all this shit just so you can say that you have a child. That's not even taking into account that single parent children are way more often problematic than children that get raised in a traditional household, so you might have another crisis at hand with even more socially retarded children than we have now.
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>>37008215
>Wouldn't be anywhere near 435 million dollars that's for sure
>>37008239
>"Yeah I'd make a bajillion dollars from my makeup business!"
You don't know what potential she had, she could've made just as much money. To assume that she wouldn't have with no information on her, or that she would be associated with makeup is why we have judges deciding this, not randoms on the internet.

>And for a year or two when she gets back on her feet
You aren't going to get back to that level of lifestyle on your own in a year or two starting from nothing.
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>>37007793
>If she didn't raise those kids and focused on her own career, you have to take that into account of how much she would have.

Yes I'm sure she would have made a half billion dollars if she wasn't stuck raising that deadbeat's kids.
5/10 I'm a little annoyed
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>>37008289
I never implied such a scenario wouldn't be a crisis. All I said was that's what is going to happen.
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>>37008292
>is why we have judges deciding this, not randoms on the internet
Ummmm that's not how it works? It doesn't matter if she fucking had legitimate aspirations to work at McDonald's or even never work at all, she'd still get that
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The only women interested in me (or at least, who message me on OkQuipid) already have kids. I'm 33, though, so I suppose that should be expected. Maybe I should grow up, I've deliberately decided to not put effort into getting women, since I'm a poor manual laborer / service worker / underpaid manager, who can't even really support himself.

I'm not bitter or anything, though. That's just how shit goes.
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>>37008234
She may can't nab the rich man. Let me reword that, she can choose who she doesn't want to mate with.
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>>37008323

because 20-something girls dont use OKCupid dumbass. There are plenty of twenty somethings and teenagers who will fuck a 33 year old but theyre not on OKCupid. Thats like going to a rest home and saying you only get hit on by senior citizens.
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>>37008292
>You aren't going to get back to that level of lifestyle on your own in a year or two starting from nothing.
Then that's her fucking choice, why does the man have to fix this? Is it his fault she neglected her hypothetical career?
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>>37008323
It sounds like you're just a realist bro. There's nothing wrong about not wanting a family if you can't support them.
>Maybe I should grow up
Don't buy into this shitty narrative that "real men" have to support another man's children, only do it if you want to.
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>>37004107
>there are no real man anymore to date all those disgusting whor.... I mean stronk independent womyns!
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>have good job and make lots of money, also going to inherit high seven figures eventually
>could easily support a wife and kids
>only women who ever even give me the time of day are fat or single moms and I would rather die alone over being with a fat woman or single mom
>even if I somehow found a woman worth marrying and making babbies with I could never fully trust that she won't cuck me to death with a divorce and child support because that shit is 100% rigged for women (t. somebody who watched his mom ruin his dad's life with divorce, custody battles and child support)

Guess I will just horde all my shekels in investments while living frugally, with only the occasional splurge for my autistic hobbies. I fucking hate (((feminists))) so much. They have completely ruined women and society. A total collapse of Western civilization is the only thing that can fix the rot they have created.
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>>37008420
If Western society collapsed, you'd have no more shekels.
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>There are no "career men," mind you.
FUCK YOU, NY POST
I DON'T HAVE THE CHOICE TO BE A FAMILY MAN BY MYSELF
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>37005244
>Males should take responsibilities while women can enjoy their privileges without having to think or face the consequences!
>That's the power of independent and strong women!
My sides desu
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>>37008420
You should adopt me, I'll be your son. We can shitpost together all day and I'll call you daddy (no homo)
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>>37008435

True, but there also wouldn't be any more family courts or child support or alimony or no-fault divorces or diversity hires or retardedly high standards women have for men. Besides, my shekels can help a bit. I have lots of guns and some land innawoods where I plan to start building a cabin soon. It is intended to be a vacation place but it could alternatively serve as a happening bunker.
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>>37008435
Go to the east dummy.
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>>37008496
The worth of your shekels is dependent on the country they originate from. If your shekels are shit, the east won't even want them. Assuming there's a complete fall of the Western world then Western shekels become useless.

Unless you invest it all into gold or some shit or convert to an Eastern country's shekels prior to the collapse.
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>>37008485
Land is your best bet. You might need a couple cows and a few chickens. Perhaps a horse to pull a plow.
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>>37008084
You and me both, Anon, it's not a healthy society in my opinion.
Radicals are given too much attention, causing "moderate" people to grow tired of the bullshit they spout over time and slowly considering radicalism of the "lesser of two evils" in their view. This in turn causes other moderates getting fed up with the new wave of radicals to consider leaning to the opposite. It's a vicious cycle, one that only tears apart any chance of living in peace with one another.
Animosity breeds animosity.

>>37008143
Sad but true. Just 1 person could still easily be drowned out by the radicals on that side.

Ideally speaking, what would help tremendously is if all the big groups/movements that aim for equality and whatnot (assuming they are genuine; humor me) would actively reject the Radicals among their midst, both by saying that they are not part of their movement whatever the Radicals claim, and by actually fighting against them.
Feminists countering Feminazi claims and outcries, decent black people counter-demonstrating BLM demonstrations, things like that.

Once Radicals get denounced by their related more moderate movements, having only a few women show that you can have a happy family while maintaining a successful career with a husband who's less successful in his career, might already suffice to start the wave of change.

Sadly, having those movements do all that is even less likely than to find an army of career women willing to all pitch in by sharing their positive experience.
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>>37008523
Eastern shekels are dependent on western shekels (such as USD, EUR) , if these countries doomed , their money doomed too, that's what happens when u stockpile too many reserves.
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>>37006792
but nobody thinks that?
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>>37008625
yes they do its a mans true instinct
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>>37008011
Why is MC Ride in a washing machine
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>>37003470
this. article is modeled after the same one that has found its way to this site over and over again. fun threads to read tho
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>>37008640
Then why dont they actually think like that? Its literally just religious rhetoric.
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>>37005046
(not who you are responding to) while I consider several of your points to be rational ones worth discussing, you are an insufferable faggot and should stop making a fool of yourself
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>>37002897
>artificially inflate the number of college educated women through affirmative actions
>put no other systems in place to keep the social order intact
>surprised when the system starts to break down
wooow....
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>>37008715
wow you really swayed me with that well thought out contribution
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>Civilization will collapse

No, it won't women will collapse. Scientist already made an artificial womb for lambs

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/04/25/525044286/scientists-create-artificial-womb-that-could-help-prematurely-born-babies

It's only a matter of time before they can do this for human and then it's bye bye roasties

>but men need women for sex and companionship

Sexbots are just starting, eventually they will be so life like you won't even be able to tell the difference. One day you'll be able to customize your sexbot to the most minute detail and have it shipped to your home. The benefits of sexbots will outweigh any single roastie, coupled with designer babies and it's the end of the XX sex for good.
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>>37005650
>posting obviously fake texts to prove a point
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>>37008713
they do think like t hat bro
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>>37008323
Listen to >>37008404

As long as you're not harming others in the process, do as you wish. Do what you want to do, what you think is most enjoyable to you.
There's nothing wrong with not going for the Nuclear Family with your own house, exactly 2.3 kids, a pet, a car, and reading your morning paper every Sunday morning right before going to church.

There's nothing wrong with such life goals either, but only if it's what you actually want rather than doing what is expected.

Going for a relationship for the sake of "growing up" because you're pressured into it while you'd rather not, will only result in misery for both you and your potential spouse.

I can't see myself going for a family either as i'm a poorfag. If I ever happen to find a woman with whom I click I can do the relationship thing, but kids will still be off the table unless I somehow manage to win millions of dollars, and even then only maybe.
If this makes me "not a real man" or "childish" in some random stranger's eyes, so be it. I'm quite content with my life as it is right now, I'm not going to throw that away for validation from some stranger - for for anyone else.
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>>37008729
all in a days work, good sir
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Assuming being a child in an adults body is only a problem that just started recently
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>>37005683
>453 mil for being a house wife.
you obviously don't understand how hard it is to wake up every morning at 10pm and tell your maid take better care when cleaning the patio floors, that shit is fucking murder.
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