what the actuaI FUCK went wrong?
bad economics
>>36900033
race mixing and consumer culture. no one knows who they are anymore
Single mothers, reality TV, and internet culture.
t. Millennial
Boomers are worse and are responsible for most of the flaws of millenials.
>>36900033
Look at them. Their expressions, how they dress and so on. They are children in adult bodies. Of course they are posing for the photo, but their childish demeanor shines through. They completely lack the mental resilience that characterize mature individual. They are weak, they should be stripped of all rights and sold into slavery.
>>36900127
>tfw you had a single father cause the courts thought your mother was insane.
I'm probably more fucked up cause of shit parenting
>>36900170
I can agree with this.
>>36900033
A group of people that were never properly raised by the hippy baby boomers and were told "they can be anything they set their minds to" so they never actually grew up, especially in a destabilizing and corporate economy, so the 20s are the new teens were millennials still continue to go through cliques and phases until they're about 31 where they realize they need to get their shit together, marry, and grow up.
I'm a millennial. Just waiting for those fucking boomers to die off in larger numbers. I am happy to have my grandparents around still. But my 30s are coming on and I'm tired of living this way. It's time for us to start taking over.
>>36900033
Vast quantities of chemicals and hormones in all the food and drink.
Also, this >>36900170. The boomers were the only generation to ever refuse to step aside for the new generation. They insisted on clinging to everything and demanding everything their kids have in addition to everything their parents had. Truly the most selfish generation to have ever existed in the history of mankind.
It will take centuries before we recover.
>>36900033
Oh look, another millennials complain about millennials thread
>>36900232
>they need to get their shit together, marry, and grow up.
Stupid nomalfag.
>>36900248
Actually the generation after us is one of the most conservative and down to earth generations we've had in decades.
>>36900211
Hey anon I'm also in the same boat. My dad went to court and filed the papers first. Said every bad thing you could imagine about her to them. Then he proceeded to be a drunken alcoholic piece of shit and beat me through childhood. Growing up without that balance of a mother and father plus having the single parent be a real piece of shit means you almost had no chance at all. But at 18 I set off on my own and now here at 28 I think I almost have everything figured out. I just really regret having to waste so much of my youth to do it.
Hope your situation is alright.
>Also, this >>36900170. The boomers were the only generation to ever refuse to step aside for the new generation. They insisted on clinging to everything and demanding everything their kids have in addition to everything their parents had. Truly the most selfish generation to have ever existed in the history of mankind.
>It will take centuries before we recover.
Yeah i agree with this. While i do think saying it will take centuries to recover is an exaggeration, i do think at the very least or generation and the next will be paying for the selfishness of the baby boomers
>>36900363
This health care shit is an example of that. Nobody sees the underlying dynamic to all of this. Slashing Medicaid (what nobody is fucking talking about even though that's the real intent of this law!) and Obamacare while leaving Medicare untouched. Another lifeline to the boomers. Because they are important and everyone else in this society can get fucked. Because everyone else is ignorant and just doesn't care.
There's going to be fallout from this shit. Pay close attention to these next few years.
>>36900033
I don't know about you guys, but my parents just threw money at all our problems while never getting to know me. The worst part is we aren't even rich, they just chose to live in a poor part of the country because they get paid more (teachers) and it's slightly cheaper. Too bad I have no car and there are no jobs here. Actually I take back ths money thing. They throw money at their problems and leave me high and dry.
I dont know about the rest of you but my dad was a boomer and while he is heavily liberal he believes strongly in capialism. He always taught me and my siblings that you have to work for what you want in life and its gonna fucking suck but being able to come home to a family you love makes it all worth it.
>boomers globalized the economy
>boomers make women into dudes with tits and enter the workforce
>boomers opened borders and let in a bunch of 3rd worlders to do work for pennies on the dollar
>they off shored the wealth
>destroy the planet and pollute almost every river on earth
>now you need 3years exp to do a shit job with no living wage due to boomer "let tha future fix itself"
>a part of your pay check goes to pay for their medicare
>>36900579
>being able to come home to a family you love
too bad they pushed feminism and destroyed the family unit with that hippie shit
>>36900579
Does he understand that global conditions are very different today from what they were when he was young? Does he realise that it's not enough to start out with nothing and work hard, that you need a step up, a push, an initial investment to get going these days.
>>36900437
Any time you mention the medicaid expansion, you get called a commie by boomers and dumb alt right retards
>>36900033
Smart ones got ahead and made it their job to fuck over themselves and everyone around them because they never had a grip on there shit
>>36900675actually all these are the global capitalists ;^)
>>36900298
who's paying you fuckers to spout this meme relentlessly?
>one """study"""
>sample size of less than a hundred MUSLIM kids from london or something
idiots fuckibg IDIOTSREEEEEeeeeEEeeeesEEEeeE
>>36900332
Ended up in foster care anon but that's okay. I'm okay now
>>36900264
>millenials AREN'T self deprecating
never
>>36900298
How does that change his comment?
mankind wont probably make it to the 22nd century
I really don't get how the boomers did everything. I don't understand how one generation behaves differently to the one before, beyond the lessons they've been taught and the opportunity they've been given. Millenials have reduced opportunities and are frequently denigrated as the worst shitheads ever to have lived. When you're looking at two interviews for fucking McDonald's and can work full time and still not make a living wage and then get called lazy for working a dead end job, what the fuck is the point? Seriously the world is fairly shit and we found it this way. What is there to do but shitpost or, if you're a normie, instagram your dinner of some bollocks? Seriously, this world is totally miserable and valueless and there's nothing worth striving for.
>>36900298
>Conservative
>Down to earth
Let's decreases taxes and increase military spending AT THE SAME TIME! At least I'm not a pansy art faggot!
>>36900170
boomers fucked everything over. That generation began in 1945 with the end of WW2, so the first boomers were roughly 20 years old when all of that hippy free love shit was going down in the 60s. They presided over the dismantling of American eugenics organizations, the annulment of anti-miscegenation laws, the civil rights movement, the immigration act of 1965 (which abandoned national origin quotas the US had since the 1920s), the wholesale offshoring of manufacturing and heavy industry that took off in the 80s. They championed immigration and free trade or at least didn't pay any fucking attention to it.
They paid much less for housing, cars, tuition. It was possible for a male with a high school education to get a job at a factory, join a union, and support a family in a single-earner household in an ethnically homogeneous neighborhood. They went to school with their own kind and still had some semblance of a group identity or culture.
Now half the country is obese and pillz'd the fuck out on either painkillers or antidepressants, the absolute number of "good" jobs has actually shrank while the population has increased, immigration turned into an unabated flood in the 90s and 2000s which will make whites a minority, shit jobs are taken by Mexicans,tech jobs are taken by Changs and Pajeets on slave work visas, all three send remittance money back home instead of spending it in the local economy, all the tolerance and understanding in the world only resulted in BLM, SJW, and relentless bitching about white males and the patriarchy, the government's a mess who preferentially hires minorities and keeps fighting endless wars as the debt approaches $20T, and basically everything is fucked and everybody sucks. Trust in society in general is rapidly dropping, the rich are squirreling their wealth away, and the older generations still wonder what the hell happened and why millenials aren't buying houses or fixing the fucking mess they left behind. Fuck 'em
>>36900033
the memes were too dank
>>36900675
boomers are fucking alpha
>>36901043
this
despite what /pol/boys think this world was already in the gutter by the end of the 18th century
the world we live in today is the result of centuries worth of deliberate efforts by literal psychopathic white devyls to degrade the meaning and dignity of all human life
>>36900033
Based on that picture, it's as simple as the feminisation of society and systemic hatred for masculinity
>>36901114
I pray life will improve, but I know it won't
Hopefully moving to the middle of nowhere will fix most of these problems for myself
>>36900733
>Smart ones got ahead and made it their job to fuck over themselves and everyone around them
The same can be said about boomers. A lot of them aren't happy what happened (part of why Trump won), even though they're either directly/indirectly responsible or stood by while it happened. I don't think boomers as a whole are too happy about paying welfare for Shaniqua's four kids, more bombs to blow up brown people overseas, or gibs me dat money for more programs for inner city schools or government non-jobs so that minorities can give you sass at the library or DMV.
Millenials too. It's easier to see through the bullshit with the internet. Look at Palmer Luckey, he's like 24 and worth $500M, spent money on literal memes to help meme Trump into office and was muzzled by Zuckerberg because of it.
According to Buzzfeed, Millennials are born 1981-1997.
In that case, people born in the mid 90s are much faggier and more politically correct than the previous Millennials, and give the entire generation a poor name. Mid 90s are the ones who gave us "safe spaces" after all.
t. mid 90sfag
>>36900033
Gen Z my generation are to busy playing with fucking fidget spinners
>>36901586
I'm 23 and I love fidget spinners
>>36901567
"Smart" boomers worked some middle management or finance job and then lucked out through stock market and real estate investments. Now they can retire (read: escape) to Mexico or the Philippines when shit goes down. I think it's a mistake to confine the "let it all burn" mentality to alt-right and SJWs, I'm sure a ton of boomers dgaf either, except they have money and didn't have to deal with this shit in their own time
>>36900170
Typical snowflake. Blaming everyone but himself.
We are all just victims of our own advancement as a society.
Gen x was tasked with raising someone that's what happened
>>36901583
There is nothing wrong with the original use of the term "safe space". It was just developed to give gays a place where they could go to be free of discrimination
>tfw Gen Z
Feels good
Kindness or "tolerance" outstripping truth as the greatest virtue for which to strive.
Young people are willing to actively delude themselves and ignore facts if it makes them appear like a "good person" in the eyes of society. Conversely, many are afraid to be labeled a "bad person" if they say what they're actually thinking.
So we all enthusiastically follow the rest of the herd off the cliff. But at least we're tolerant and loving!
>>36902230
Yeah it must feel great to come from a generation of redditor meme spouting kiddos and polygender amorphous retards.
>>36902337
Every generation has something wrong with it, don't be such a retard
>>36902374
Boomers were literal perfection
>>36900033
Social media turned everything into high school 2.0 except popularity is no longer abstract and virtue signalling is quantifiable
Some people think the boomers are to blame, while others believe the millennials are at fault here. Can anyone here provide any insight as to why either generation would be scrutinized?
>>36900033
>millennials are the generation that want to be youtube famous
>there will be a heavy drop in good jobs because millennials don't want to have to do actual work
>genz gets all the good jobs because we've hit the point where youtube has become a shady and hard to get into profession
Feels good, knowing that I will still get a well paying job with the shit quals I have
>>36902660
This post illustrates why gen z is another false promise
>>36901043
This is 110% truth
>>36901114
This is 110% garbage.
Everything you are complaining about in this post is completely out of reach of the average human and is entirely the result of decades of policies and propaganda designed to cement the hold over power and money the elites now enjoy in vast quantities.
>>36901114
>Changs and Pajeets on slave work visas
Idk where you're getting this info from
>all three send remittance money back home instead of spending it in the local economy
Who is telling you this??? O'reily?
>government's a mess who preferentially hires minorities
Falso my dudo. Where is this coming from?
>>36900033
Basically OP, it was the economy that fucked them up. Economy turned sour while they were growing up and warped them as a result. Became convinced a bunch of old white males were the resin for all their problems, and got convinced they basically use capitalism to keep people poor. Took the facade of anti racism to further justify their hatred and to help stave off the cognitive dissonance associated with it. Almost all generational shifts can be explained by the economic realities during the time when people were growing up. Sadly, once people have become warped, this effect stays permanently, so it will just be a lost generation. Meanwhile, the next generation will likely have better job prospects when they graduate, and will become very moderate and stable, normal people because of it
>>36900033
C A P I T A L I S M
That's the only reason
>>36902786
>Bunch of old white males in power
>Not their fault
Who's fault was it?
>>36902799
>actively shows his retardation to r9k
>>36900033
i actually had some old guy lash out at me on the train once for using my phone while standing up, he was ranting about how kids these days never go off their phone, i was debating whether or not to curse this guy out or keep using my phone, i didnt want to go too far so i just kept usign my phone
>>36902829
It's true though, and even retards can tell the truth. The truth is the truth doesn't matter which mouth speaks it.
>>36902823
It's everybody's fault. The economy soured because of actions of millions of people. Everybody was acting like a jackass. When shit hits the fan, you pull up your bootstraps and fix it together, as a functional society should
>>36902830
My response to those kinds of people is to take a picture of them, they either shut up or flip out
>>36902861
>ITT: retard thinks he's smart, but is actually dumb. Most likely let his gf visit Chad because she tells him they are "just friends"
>>36902874
Please go into more detail over how
Pulling up your bootstraps would've fixed the economy
>>36902874
Too bad American society is become less and less functional
>>36902908
You sure you ain't projecting son
>>36902913
In times of economic crisis, it is up to the citizens to elect a leader who will perform aggressive stimuluses to the economy, and will inspire hope in the people that the economy will improve. This will, in turn, encourage people to spend money. Simply put, people believe the economy will improve, so take actions that will make it improve. Additionally, people need to actively and agressively search for work and can't give up on that. Instead, what we got was Obama, who was very afraid to take any big actions or inspire hope in the people, and who gave people 99 weeks of unemployment benefits, discouraging them from looking for work. It's up to everybody to get the economy working again. That's what the generation after the depression did
>>36900081
This. I wish I could live in a mud hut with my haplotype sharing kin.
>>36900033
Hmm I don't know but young people posting stupid shit on the internet certainly wouldn't describe us
>>36900033
Boomers happened.
>lets take out loans for homes and cars we can't afford, what's the worst that could happen? 2008 happens, oops, teehee o well.
>lets indoctrinate our kids with hippie swill.
>let's raise our kids to be spoiled consumerists who worship at the alter of the material object.
>let's continue our parents tradition of shipping blue collar jobs over to China and India and Mexico. Because fuck American workers right?
>lets start a war over oil pipelines and petrodollar trade.
>>36902943
It's really not. People have short memories, and so view the sluggish growth for the past 8 years as society becoming less functional. True, it will cause issues, but once growth picks back up to a good rate, everyone who holds this view will quickly forget it
>>36901700
most of that shit is fault of democrats and liberals, not boomers.
>>36903021
That was a very vague and useless answer. I don't think you know what youre talking about. Economic and societal crises are caused by very specific factors and are resolved by specific policy enactments. Not just hurr durr believe in urself work together be urself useless platitudes. Dumbfuck.
>>36900170
Why do millennials blame boomers for everything wrong with them.
They can fall down, break their leg, and curse the baby boomers for not making level enough earth so you couldn't fall down and break your leg.
>>36903021
What kind of jobs will we give to people? Factory jobs were the backbone of our post-WWII economy and they're never coming back. Service jobs only exist to fill needs and can't be created just to be handed out.
Who will employ these people and pay their wages? The taxpayers? Companies that refuse to pay more than a minimum wage which hasn't risen in 40 years?
>>36903056
The people that profit from growth are those that are rich anyway.
>>36903097
Yeah sorry, u was sort of speaking generally. The point I'm trying to make is that aggressive fiscal and monetary policy actions weren't taken during the time, and the leader (Obama) was too moderate in a time of crisis, further discouraging people. This ultimately fucked the economy worse, and resulted in the millenial mess
>>36900232
pretty much this. the extension of adolescence is ridiculous.
>>36900170
I can agree. Although my parents weren't divorced or separated, my dad worked in another state, and my mom really took care of me, and I turned out to be a huge faggot pussy in my elementary years, and Im trying to pick myself back up, but it really is fucking hard.
>>36903030
only if you are nigger :^)
>>36903102
Because the global elite have the people convinced that it's an "us vs them" problem, whether it's the old vs the young, whites vs minorities, citizens vs immigrants, rich vs poor, etc. As long as the proletariat continue to fight among themselves they won't unite against those who are really in control
>>36903169
The service sector has continued, and will continue to boom. Jobs are always available, people just get pissed off that they went from a $20 per hour factory job to a $9 per hour store clerk job
>>36902301
Why
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Like
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Reddit?
>>36903292
>people just get pissed off that they went from a $20 per hour factory job to a $9 per hour store clerk job
This is a completely legitimate concern
>>36903194
They are also the most hurt by recessions. All their wealth is tied up in investments, which take a massive hit during recessions. Stocks decline by a good 50% or more. So no shit they benefit, since their stocks go up. My stocks go up as well, and so do yours
>>36903307
I just find it more attractive to read than one big wall of text
>>36903292
The service industry only thrives when people can afford service. You won't find a thriving service industry anywhere that doesn't have a high average household income, which are the areas that need the jobs the most. The few who make minimum wage will not be spending money on and creating the jobs of the service workers.
>>36903325
True, but they should have had looked at the long run of their industry when they took the job in the first place. Don't assume your factory job will be around forever. It's your fault if you get laid off in 15 years, since during those years you should have also been a aquiring skills to either become more valuable so they couldn't replace you, or to bring value to a new employer. The blame ultimately relies on them
>>36903384
M8 most jobs are becoming increasingly superfluous. We will get to the point where there literally aren't jobs that aren't done by robots. Your theories are completely outdated.
>>36903384
When there is a surplus of labor and the corporation has absolute control over wages you don't have that luxury. Even if you have the skills, someone else will do it for less just to put food on the table, and soon everyone is doing skilled labor for the minimum because the alternative is nothing at all.
>>36903352
Yes, but you won't find a thriving production industry in places where there is no service industry, so your logic is circular. Any place with no industry will have poor households, whether it's services or goods
>>36903414
We aren't even close to that point. Worry when we get there, not now. We haven't even been able to send a human to another planet yet, but we are somehow close to automating everyone out of a job
>>36903351
Yeah, nice try cuck.
>>36900033
Boomers were the worst generation in American history and they raised the second worst generation in American history.
Millenials are complete faggots. From what I understand, Generation Z seems a lot better. >>36900033
>>36903292
>The service sector has continued, and will continue to boom.
False, a lot of service jobs will be destroyed by automation. Self-driving cars are a hot topic and for good reason (see pic related), they'll come whether in 10 years or in 30 years. Every time you solve a captcha to shitpost on 4chan (which squares have vehicles or signs), your shitposting is literally fueling the development of a powerful artificial intelligence that will drive cars and trucks in the future. Right now, I work for a company that helps automate warehouse processes - the kind of stuff we're doing obsoletes low-level data entry and other computer jobs that can be found on-site at the warehouse. Retail is dying as Amazon takes over.
Secondly, resource extraction, manufacturing, and services are also known as primary, secondary, and tertiary industries, in that order - because they depend on each other. In a globalized economy, it gets murkier (resources extracted in Africa could be used in Chinese factories, with American accountants (service) keeping track of what chinese goods are sold in the US). But the point is, service jobs boom after there's a manufacturing base.
>>36903458
You heavily overestimate how many small businesses their are. While big business is most visible, it only provides a small fraction of the total jobs. The corporations controlling everything your describing is perception, not reality
>>36901114
Post more memes
>>36903557
boomer memes coming right up senpai
>>36903500
alright
I
guess
you
caught
me
>>36903460
You won't find a thriving production industry anywhere. What hasn't been automated or outsourced is met with a surplus of labor which continues to drive wages down. A service industry is not self-sustaining because most of the wealth flows to the business owners, not the employees.
>>36903595
>>36903557
oldie but goIdie
>>36903527
First off, the truck driving industry contributes very little to GDP, so this is a non issue if we automate it. It's a worthless industry to begin with.
Secondly, your industry scheme is fails to take into account that mnaufacting and extraction are still occurring at rapid rates, just with less people, so the service sector can still thrive
>>36903497
Lol there are plenty of jobs that are rapidly becoming obsolete. Not only that, on one hand you're saying that low skilled blue collar workers should've looked 15 years ahead and analyzed to see that they would be replaced by outsourcing and automation. Now you're saying that we shouldn't worry about it until it happens. You're an idiot. Your advice is useless boomer tier.
>>36903595
>>36903659
Thank you, these are golden
my mom says millenials are just lazy!
>>36903660
Lol any industry alone makes up a small portion of overall GDP. The problem is that there are quite a few industries that are facing automation. How old are you?
>>36903535
I know you know better than that. When a Walmart megastore moves into an area and can make a profit with minimum wage employees, local businesses have to either lower their wages to be able to lower their prices, or raise their prices to offset their losses. Though the small businesses are not part of the national corporations, they're playing on the same field and use the same tactics to survive.
>>36903600
A surplus of labor only means that people decided to make themselves worthless by not investing their time in improving skills that employers valued. Automation didn't kill their job, they did by being lazy pieces of shit
>>36903271
nobody gives a shit if you have daddy issues or are a punk rebel, it just doesn't make a damn lick of sense to blame everyone else for your problems. what do you gain from treating YOURSELF like a fucking dog?
>>36903660
Oh great we can have an underclass of low paid mc Donald's workers! Goodie! Problem solved!
>>36903720
Sure, because an entire generation incurred massive debt to be lazy and work low paying jobs
>>36903720
Ah so if all these people threatened by automation and
Outsourcing arbitrarily gain more skills they could all have more jobs? So, very specifically, what skills should be gained to invent new jobs for themselves?
>>36900579
I don't understand this western notion of "work really hard. It's worth it, trust me."
Oh boy, I get to wake up 9-5 and slave every day for decades? But I get to see my kids every night, how wonderful.
This just isn't appealing to me. Yet, I'm a no-good degenerate for being so disillusioned.
>>36903660
>First off, the truck driving industry contributes very little to GDP, so this is a non issue if we automate it. It's a worthless industry to begin with.
Retarded argument - it's the most common job in more than half the states, what do you think that means in terms of salaries and the average joe spending money to buy shit?
>>36903660
>just with less people,
Again, when you take people out of the equation, they're no longer earning money which means they can't buy anything. There go your car sales, home sales, high end PC sales - they'll just live at home with parents, drive a shitty car, get a $400 chinese laptop, and instead of going out and doing stuff or having hobbies they'll just substitute shitposting or wasting time on youtube
Look at what happened to America's GDP - more than 20% of it is now FIRE (finance, insurance, real estate) which does not in and of itself produce useful goods
>>36903713
Those small businesses you are referring to were trying to compete on something they are not competitive in. Small businesses that can't be bankrupted by megastores are ones that correctly choose to niche their business. Hence why Walmart can compete against a speciality store. They get can only compete on bulk items, which is why they bankrupt things like mom and pop general stores.
i like the theory that as life gets easier people get weaker.
but i genuinely believe millennials are represented as fucking retards because only the retards have the time to talk shit, pull "pranks," fight for "rights," or whatever, and we just have more coverage of everything. a while ago you could be shown one video of japs and believe they are all manlet samurais who suck each others dicks because all the women are ugly. all the decent millennials are busy getting advanced degrees while working/owning companies. go to a spring break party you'll see what i mean.
>>36903782
Learn personal finance and become entrepreneurs. There, just made your own job. Skills create jobs, jobs don't create skills. Skills created the jobs that outsourced the skillless jobs
>>36903817
Of course it's in FIRE. We produce so many goods, that we have the luxury to invest heavily in service industries like this. I think the real question is that why should I care about the truck drivers? They should have chosen a job requiring skilled labor, not unskilled labor.
>>36903883
Ah so 10s of Millions of people can become entrepreneurs and CEOs and the economy can support that? Ever heard of saturation?
>>36903727
Humanity is experiencing a radical paradigm shift with technology advancing at a level that it never has before in history, but /people/, who have been unchanged for at least the last tens of thousands of years, suddenly collectively as a species decided they wanted an unprecedented level of income inequality and wealth concentration, and give up everything the average person has historically strived for to work meaningless jobs and contribute nothing?
>>36903820
And there simply aren't enough niche markets to sustain an economy.
>>36903959
If they can't, then that's how competition and survival of the fittest works. Blame nature and your god perhaps for this issue
>>36903961
>income inequality
yet quality of life is up dramatically for everyone in the west
>suddenly
stupid cunt
>technology
now your whole life is just at the mercy of some calculator? shut the fuck up, if you don't take yourself seriously, don't expect me to.
>>36904001
Yes there are. Just choose to buy from the nichers over the bulk commodities. Boom, problem solved
>>36904011
Ah okay so you're admitting that it's not necessarily possible for everyone to thrive under the current model. Cool. Well since you're stuck in the 1900s I'll tell you the two options we have. Either
A. We need a population decrease
B. We need to have some serious discussions about basic income
Maybe both.
>>36903959
there are far too few entrepreneurs to even make this argument. half of the people i know who "own million dollar" businesses and just spend all their time traveling are literally just reselling shitty clothes or toys using someone else's formulas/apps. you wouldn't believe how hard it is to motivate someone to do something new and take responsibility in a high demand market.
good noticing that saturation is a thing, not like only the low skill jobs are saturated.
>technology is witchcraft and should be discarded of because I didn't have it when I was at that age
Every generation is ashamed of the newer generation. People were ashamed of people with their televisions when those were first invented. Stop trying to pretend that you are high and mighty when you are on a computer right now typing this.
>>36904084
A is already happening in developed countries, and B is for absolute lowest if the low scum retards, so there really isn't anything to talk about. Looks like your problem is solved anon
>>36904012
Just because quality of life is up doesn't change the fact that a group of less than 100 people hold more wealth than 4 BILLION people. You quite literally can't comprehend how much power 4 billion people's worth of wealth will bring you
When history is measured on a geological scale, 50 years is NOTHING. It's the snap of a finger.
Just because you don't understand the technology doesn't mean it doesn't affect you. Do yourself a favor and look up what can be done with big data, for example.
>>36904061
Can't afford to do that on minimum wage. And since most everyone else can't either, that niche supplier ceases to exist.
>>36904133
I've already explained that a majority of jobs will be automated. Maybe it won't happen tomorrow but it's going to happen. If the robots do all the jobs people wont have jobs. If people don't have jobs they need some alternative form of income. I know change is frightening but that's reality.
>>36904159
Niche supplier only ceases to exist in locations with mostly subhuman who aren't smart enough to make a higher salary. In any other case, they can do well
>>36904208
Circular logic. People are poor because they can't afford to do things.
>>36903331
Well if you have enough money to make investments, sure. Most people don't and they'll take any reason to lower your wages but refuse to raise them accordingly if things get better. The surge of automatisation via better robots and computers will also be something we have to take into consideration when we think about the future.
>>36904084
>this problem that i have a grand total of NO EXPERIENCE with solving is impossible to solve :)
>nobody could ever harness electricity and invent the light bulb!
basic income will come with increasingly rigid conditions, making you a slave to the state. maybe it works, maybe not, try looking at how socialized medicine works at a large scale. people always cut out a fuck load at the middle for themselves.
population decrease is a natural thing if people are too poor to raise kids. change the culture of bringing in people who like to have a lot of kids, and allowing them to have a lot of kids, that part is simple. in the past people just had wars for this shit.
anyway, there's no reason to say innovation won't fix some of these challenges without any new regulations.
>>36904187
>not even at the point where there are not jobs left
>yet still wants to go communist
Do you feel to see your own retardation here? Basic income should not come up in any argument until we have hit this point, not before it
>>36904133
I'm not >>36904084 but my god man, you are stupid. Are you 15? I'm pretty sure you're not even out of HS yet. Let me explain a little something you might be missing. We NEED low-skilled workers, or the very concept of being a 'boss' or 'ceo' or 'entrepreneur' is obsolete. Without unskilled worker, skilled workers won't have anyone to teach, nor will bosses have anyone to hire. With robots the problem is worsened, it only takes a few people to keep a warehouse full of robots from breaking down, bam, hundreds of jobs are gone. Without unskilled labor, and a growing robotics industry, our entire way of life and society would collapse because no one would be making money. And it's not as simple as "Well just be a CEO" because only so many people can /be/ a CEO. There are only so many managerial positions available.
>>36904249
I'll be fine, since instead of spending my money frivolously on drugs and alcohol, I bought stock. They could have bought stock too, but instead decided to upgrade their iPhone. Most people, especially poor people, are scum
>>36902799
>"WAAAA A MUH EBIL CAPITALISM"
>thinks cronyism is the same as true capitalism
>>36904299
So you buy stock instead of a $400 iphone. Stock market doubles overnight, now you can buy TWO iphones, you're rich!
>>36904159
>100 people hold more wealth than 4 BILLION
only on paper. their value is often reported as whatever they claim it is, so it's basically a useless metric.
>you qui-
YOU QUITE LITERALLY DON'T GET THAT MONEY MEANS FUCKING NOTHING ONCE YOU ARE OVER A THRESHOLD OF LIKE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR YOURSELF, AND JUST ABOUT NOTHING IF YOU CAN COMFORTABLY OWN A HOME WHERE YOU WANT AND RAISE A FAMILY
>big data
>my life is so affected by a silicon valley buzzword that i can't take responsibility for my own actions
do yourself a favor and get a better job if you're so obsessed with "wealth"
>>36904304
>i-it isn't TRUE capitalism
Just like how real communism has never been tried, amirite.
>>36904363
If money means nothing then give me all of yours
>>36904363
Enjoy life in your little box while it lasts, I guess.
>>36904253
>Just hope for good things and they'll come true :^)
Lol. Anything a human could do a robot could do better, save customer service. There's no reason to give people superfluous busy work just cause.
>>36904267
>Brah just wait until there's a massively poor restless underclass
Lol. I'm not saying that we should implement basic income tomorrow but there's literally no reason to dogmatically oppose it because it "sounds" lazy. Having people work for the sake of working and not because that profession provides an irreplaceable function vital to the advancement and maintenance of society is stupid. It's not communism to benefit from the labor of robots you idiot. Stop clinging to the past.
Thats capitalism for ya.
You reap what you sow you whiny cunts
>>36904394
He means to say that money by itself has no value -- its just paper. What use does paper have? Money has value in the presence of resources/services of value
>>36904299
>I'll be fine
Maybe, maybe not. Being wealthy won't mean anything anymore when the economy eats itself.
>thinks cronyism is the same as true capitalism
Capitalism needs infinite growth to work. If you can't grow anymore, you cut off what holds you back, i.e. saving money through low wages, automatisation and dumping every worker you can. Meanwhile, money tends to accumulate where there already is money i.e. rich people getting richer and if you are the only one with money, money loses worth instantly. Money needs to circulate through the market yet everybody is trying their best to keep as much money for themselves as possible.
>>36900298
>hey guys we surveyed like 200 kids from london and some of them were libertarians who didn't understand what we meant by conservative!
>hey guys, gen z hates tattoos because the muslims we surveyed didn't want them!
This meme is idiotic.
>>36904443
Whatever, your opinion stopped being valid once you brought up basic income you subhuman
>>36904464
I know what he meant but it just doesn't hold. How many people earn their first million and say "That's enough, I think I'll stop working now"?
>>36904464
No, money has value because we agree that it does and it is beneficial for us to do so. If for whatever reason we decide that it doesn't anymore in the future then that's the point where money will be just paper.
>>36904382
>Just like how real communism has never been tried, amirite.
Nice strawman fallacy, and it has been tried, and it failed. It's a terrible economic system. Go ahead and read up on why and decide for yourself. As for true capitalism, aka free market capitalism, it isn't being practiced in significant parts of the world right now or any part of the world (correct me if I'm wrong). The US, for example, which is commonly used as an example to attack capitalism, is not truly capitalist. It is more capitalist than most countries, but it's far from free market; it's corporatist
>>36902694
Gen z is optimistic in the same way millennials used to be. The world is their oyster, they can make a difference, they can take on the world, blah blah fucking blah. They'll learn just like the millennials did. Every high school kid feels superior to the grocery store cashier until that same grocery store cashier is their boss four years later.
>>36904525
That's the weakest response I've ever received. What kind of retard is happy to be a wagecuck.
>>36904551
>No, money has value because we agree that it does and it is beneficial for us to do so.
Only in the presence of resources and if people are willing to exchange useful services. Imagine being stranded on a desert island forever with no resources but you have a briefcase containing 10 trillion notes. Would that money have any value? Yes, it is true that money is exchanged for goods because we agree that this is how the system should work, but notes have no value themselves.
Money is as valuable as the goods/resources around you. No goods, no value.
>>36900033
Boomers did it
>>36901043
>>36901114
Are both right
>>36904670
Not quite. You need a functioning society for money to work. There can be tons of ressources but if there's no society, i.e. no consensus on how things work money has no value. The reason people loot stores with non-essential goods after a catastrophe or w/e is because they expect society to return to normal after a while because only then will things have a monetary worth again. If society doesn't return to normal you're much better off hoarding all the essentials you can.
I'm tired of hearing about "millenials".
Half the people who say the word don't even know what it means. And it's always some hack writing some article like "Why Millenials are Entitled Whiny Babies" acting as if they have any authority on the subject. Like yeah sure, we get it, participation trophies and facebook ruined an entire generation of people.
I'm not saying that there aren't problems with millennials, it just gets a little grating to hear some random moron's half baked opinion on the subject every other day.
>>36904885
True. I'm not disputing that; I'm just saying that money by itself is valueless because you cannot do anything with it. If Earth suddenly lost all its resources and goods and we were left only with paper money, it doesn't matter if we had trillions of billions or just thousands because we would not be able to spend it on anything. Value for money arises when there are goods that can be exchanged and when society agrees on the convention of exchanging goods for money and so on.
To think of wealth in terms of money is a fallacy. You could have all the money in the world but without goods to exchange it for, the money is worth nothing.
>>36905002
A millennial wrote this.
>>36900675
>Joy
>Lane
>Say it
>>36905074
Well obviously. The vast majority of 4chan users are millennials
>>36905051
Value in itself isn't something that can be measured, it's a case of consensus. Who decides what an apple is worth, for example? Sure, you could say the company that sells them decides that, but the consumers seal the deal by buying it for the asking price. If consumers refuse to pay the price, a consensus on the value of one apple isn't reached.
There's no objective worth or value to anything. If we lost all our ressources and earth would turn into a barren wasteland, a simple meal would be valuable to you because you want to survive and not starve, but if you look at it objectively, neither outcome has any value associated to it.