I don't get why being a virgin or not having a girlfriend

>>36826470
its the societal aspect. id love to just be a hard working man who earns his bread with the other men but whenever sex is brought up, all of a sudden youre a kid and you are no longer allowed to have friends, and more than once this means youre not allowed to earn a wage either

>>36826470
Sex is overrated honestly. But I don't think I'm allowed to have an opinion on whether or not it matters cuz I got really lucky once in high school

>>36826655
>>36826633
all in denial

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>>36826665
about what? are you sure you read my post right?

>>36826470
Because people who haven't had sex out some huge amount of value in it. I used to be the same way. Once you actually do it you realize what a faggot you were being for not having sex.

>>36826470
I don't care about a gf, I really don't. I just want steady pussy at no cost to my budget. Why? Cause it's a great stress reliever. I don't even care if she liked me or not. Come over, get some dick and maybe food and get out my house, see you next week.

>>36826665
the fuck is your problem? you ask a question, anons answer, you dont even read the reply and claim theyre in denial? what? in denial of what, you brain dead mong?

it's a point in life. born, find a relationship get married die, reborn

>>36826470
I want to be a non-virginia
>paying doesn't count
it's was my only biological reason for existence
>we are only chemicals

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I want to have a calling and invaluable skill that people appreciate and pay me for. It's just that the fact that it feels like I have to struggle and fight for a fraction of a chance of getting to that point really makes it seem like a very very large number of people on the planet are probably superfluous.

That has led me to be very outspoken in favor of euthanasia but that seems like such a lost cause as I could bark and bark until I die in 60 or so years and it's not going to change public sentiment or make anybody any more aware.

>>36826470
Being a virgin is considered being the lowliest of the low. Notice when people diss each other here, it's always "haha kissless virgin u mad leleleXD"
Anyone who's a virgin is mocked. It represents how you've failed biologically as a human.

>>36826470
>Isn't there anything you want to do?
Have a family.
>Isn't there anything you want to be?
A husband and father.

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>>36826887
this

its a good thing that the wholesomeness of bodily functions is reduced to nothing but hedonism so that

wait no thats not good at all

>>36826470
I want to be a dad desu.

>>36826873
>Being a virgin is considered being the lowliest of the low.
I don't know, being a hobo or a pedophile is worse. Being a male virgin doesn't get you killed out of rage or for fun. It's just an easy target.
>Anyone who's a virgin is mocked.
There are places where "virgin male" is an oxymoron. Not to mention cases where it's respected or a necessity (which are outside the norms, of course).
>It represents how you've failed biologically as a human.
Reproduction is a function. Taking this seriously, it would be "biological failure" if you don't reproduce. You can pay for sex.

Being a male virgin over a certain age isn't normal, but it isn't a "biological failure". What you want to be considered normal.

>>36827073
>cumming is biological, so if you cum youre not failing biologically
>paternal yearnings are not biological so if you fail to become a father you arent failing biologically

is this what you are saying? i believe this is what you are saying

>>36827073
>I don't know, being a hobo or a pedophile is worse. Being a male virgin doesn't get you killed out of rage or for fun. It's just an easy target.
the only reason hobos are killed is because they're actual easy targets for killing, you can't compare them to virgins in this context.

>There are places where "virgin male" is an oxymoron.
oh, so almost like society, then.

>Taking this seriously, it would be "biological failure" if you don't reproduce.
taking this seriously, do you think virgins reproduce? of course not, therefore they are biological failures according to you.

>Being a male virgin over a certain age isn't normal, but it isn't a "biological failure".
see above.

>>36827221
No, that's what you're saying. We have sexual yearnings. If a woman refuses you, is it a biological failing to not take the pussy by force?

>>36827342
what about paternal yearnings

if you are refused by a woman and the goal is fatherhood then being a virgin is biological failure

>>36827342
not necessarily. it's biological failing if you don't manage to reproduce, whatever the means. so if you do get rejected by all women all of your life, then yes, its biological failure for you not to rape them.

i dont see how this is supposed to help your point. this just shows how big failures we are in this society.

>>36827337
>the only reason hobos are killed is because they're actual easy targets for killing
Because people believe their lives have no value, which makes them lower than male virgins.
>taking this seriously, do you think virgins reproduce? of course not, therefore they are biological failures according to you
Eh no, there is no "biological failure". Taking YOU seriously, "biological failure" would be not reproducing, which many, many people don't do.

>>36827400
If paternal yearnings are biological, you'd be a failure regardless of whether you're a virgin or not if you fail to become a father. What if you have sex with the woman but she doesn't want children?

>>36827442
>"biological failure" would be not reproducing, which many, many people don't do.
but 99% of humanity have proven themselves worthy of reproduction. those people may choose not to reproduce because of whatever reasoning is going on in their heads, but they could reproduce with a partner if they so desired to do. the rest of us are not even considered worthy of attention from the opposite sex. if you dismiss the point I just made you will have proven yourself to just be arguing for the sake of arguing. not being considered worthy of attention from the opposite sex is THE indicator of biological failure, if there even is one.

>>36827500
well imo it's part and parcel. i'd bet a large portion of whining about virginity is just dum failed normies not coming to realize that their yearnings are the root of a desire to build a family

unless theyre niggers

and then there's the societal aspect
>>36826633
>>36826633
>>36826633
which you can't ignore

>>36827410
I don't see why it's a failing to refuse to be a savage beast.
>>36827579
>those people may choose not to reproduce because of whatever reasoning is going on in their heads, but they could reproduce with a partner if they so desired to do. the rest of us are not even considered worthy of attention from the opposite sex
If that's the case, have you tried to become desirable? You can't just call yourself a biological failure if you haven't put in effort.

>>36827670
>If that's the case, have you tried to become desirable? You can't just call yourself a biological failure if you haven't put in effort.
R9K BTFO NORMIE CALLS IT AS IT IS

you dumb asshole. clearly its not that fucking simple now, is it? do you actually think it's as simple as us just deciding to become desirable?

are you a woman? you must be a woman. women take being liked for granted, its literally impossible for them to comprehend some men are not desirable.

>>36827641
I can understand that. From a biological standpoint, anyone who doesn't reproduce is ultimately in the same boat.
>>36827734
It's not simple. That's why it requires effort. You shouldn't go deciding you're a failure because you don't just get what you want. You have to play the game to be a loser.

>>36827641
Really, I think it's the societal aspect that really dogs you. Well, us, we're both virgins.

>>36827891
>>36827942
>From a biological standpoint, anyone who doesn't reproduce is ultimately in the same boat
but not from a societal standpoint, and i think that point is how you know our society is fuckin stupid. hitler had it right

it's not even historically precedent; were all the coal miners and sharecroppers driven by sexuality? did none of them just kind of amble through their life halfway content? i doubt it

>>36827891
>You have to play the game to be a loser.
you got that out of my post? youre a dumb asshole. youre literally telling me to try rather than give up without attempting anything.

do you think i was born yesterday? do you think ive literally spent my whole life without leaving my moms basement? do you really think that i have never tried living and you are the first one to tell me to actually live life? fuck off. im obviously a real person; i went to school, ive had jobs, ive dealt with people.


you truly live in a completely different universe. you are literally unable to understand that some men are not desirable.

>>36827994
>but not from a societal standpoint
True. We're forced to deal with the fact we're considered sick by society's standards unless we're "cured".
>>36828034
I'm sorry then. Perhaps you've earned the right to decide you're a failure. Do you have to beat yourself up over something that can't be helped? You didn't decide to be undesirable to women.

>>36826633
Last I checked nobody here gave a fuck about "society", or at least is pretending not to.

Admit it. You all have yearning to be loved, desired and accepted.

It's not really destroying me but I do want a friend that's a girl. Kinda miss opening up to one and they seem like they actually care and they'll open up as well.

>>36828255
>Last I checked nobody here gave a fuck about "society", or at least is pretending not to.
>implying your monthly tugboat isn't a manifestation of society's pity on you
>implying the fruits of your labor dont have to be deemed desirable by society in order for you to earn food on your table
makin me laff here, u a funny dude

>Admit it. You all have yearning to be loved, desired and accepted.
how does this go against what was previously mentioned

>>36828317
What are you huffing mate

>>36828034
>>36828233
i was thinking about replying to that post with something like

>you dont just magically get a gf when youre desirable

but then i realized that being desirable is a prerequisite and its just one of many hoops and his hoop is perfectly valid

>>36828332
>he thinks he's living in a societal vacuum

>>36826470

Lost my virginity at 19 (going on 20 here). I can absolutely see why guys put so much emphasis on it, and think it's really short-sighted when people don't understand why. Losing your virginity (not with a prostitute) is one of the most emotionally validating things out there. It's not about physical pleasure: jerking off takes a lot less energy and involves a lot less pressure. But knowing that someone liked and trusted you enough to put themselves in the most vulnerable position possible with you and let you more or less have control over their body gives you a degree of confidence that can never be taken away from you.

>>36828435
>(going on 20 here)

*(going on 20) here. I'm 25 now.

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>>36826470
Yeah OP, I don't really understand it either. I'm a 21 year old virgin, with no friends, and never had a girlfriend, yet I'm not depressed about it. I don't care. My identity and sense of self is not dictated by other people. I think most "robots" on this board are just people with low self esteem and social anxiety. It's apparent in their obsession with other people. For example: "I hate roasties!" "I hate normies!" "I wish I had a girlfriend!" True robots don't give a fuck, nor feel hatred towards anyone. These pseudo-robots are nothing but bitter, failed normies. They're too immature to realize that they don't hate other people... they hate themselves.

>>36828485
>heh i dont get it :^)
>im going to post this buddhist type shit, not understanding that enlightenment implies a great trial had to been overcome however im going to pretend that i have never faced this trial at all :^)

jesus fuck you spiritualist cunts are such bad people. i hate you please neck yourself immediately. you'll get reincarnated into whatever you want i promise

>>36827734
>are you a woman? you must be a woman. women take being liked for granted, its literally impossible for them to comprehend some men are not desirable
How the fuck does that make any sense? Women judge men as undesirable all the fucking time. I have a hard time believing you're actually undesirable because you are a man and I am a man and I understand how much a man can cultivate himself from seemingly nothing.

>>36828034
>do you really think that i have never tried living and you are the first one to tell me to actually live life? fuck off. im obviously a real person; i went to school, ive had jobs, ive dealt with people.
Also because I'm a man I can understand how fucking stupid and willfully irrational guys can be, so forgive me for not taking you at face value when you say based on your life experiences that you flatly "are not desirable"
If you're really hung up on being desirable, go back try again and git gud nigger. Unlike the nature of modern woman, your nature is within your ability to control

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>>36828562
You're only proving me correct, anon.

>>36828690
unashamed lying is enlightenment? kek cool man thanks for the shortcut

>>36827073
>Being a hobo or a pedophile is worse
Hobos are unlucky people and pedos are usually regarded as criminals. Being a virgin is synonymous with being a loser. Have you ever heard anyone say hobo or pedo as an insult? And who cares if hobos and pedos are frequent targets of killings? No one said that we're getting persecuted or some shit, just that our social value is less than zero.


>There are places where "virgin male" is an oxymoron
Most of us probably don't live in Burundi or in some mongolian tribe, in today's western society you're still considered a loser if you're a virgin. Your christian mom might not, but everyone else will.

>What you want is to be considered normal
Doubted it?

>>36826470

I believe this too OP, lots of robots in denial.

I recently told my friends a work that I was a virgin when they asked. They got really silent and then one told me "don't let others tell you that you don't have value because you're a virgin" and the other that was bragging about how many he's had sexwith said he wished he had waited. Blatantly lied to my face because they thought I was a shell or that I was Broken somehow.

I should have just lied.

>>36826470
All I want is to be loved, so there's really not anything I want to do or be besides that.

>>36826470
>I don't get why being a virgin or not having a girlfriend is something that's destroying you guys. Isn't there anything you want to do? Isn't there anything you want to be?

For good or for ill, Mother Nature has inspired in each of Her children the compulsion to be desired. That fundamental drive can be a blessing to those who can satisfy it, to be sure. But for the tiny number of things that can't, it becomes the most vicious of curses.

To be sure, the unlovable thing can seek to compensate for its elemental deficit. It could pursue power, I suppose. The world despises you and refuses to humor you with even the tiniest embrace. You beg and plead for it to respond to your cries if only for the sake of hearing, just once, a voice other than your own. Of course, it remains silent. So you fantasize about growing strong enough to grasp the world in your hands and force a reply from it. And if one is desperate and lonely enough, he can attempt to fool himself into believing it doesn't matter that said response is a scream of pain rather than a sigh of pleasure.

The sad fact of the matter is that attempt will always be met with failure. An abomination who somehow forced feigned adoration from the throat of every man and woman on earth would still envy someone who, if only once, was treated with an authentic smile.

It's either a horrible or beautiful realization, depending on whether one was born a monster or a man, that one could rule the entire world, have every woman condemned to serve as a resentful member of his harem, and still never be as a happy as a slave who had a single woman kiss him because she truly wanted to.

Oy gevalt dont get sad about not having kids goyim!
Here have some porn. Look at these traps!

I want to die but I'm too much of a pussy to just do it. I used to be a fat piece of shit but lost a lot of the weight and I still want to die. The only comfort is knowing my life won't last forever and that this too will pass.

>>36826470
I wanna be an alcoholic
Drink until the day I die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD-ys67ekq0

>>36828255
>You all have yearning to be loved, desired and accepted.
And it will not happen so the point to argue is nigh.

Whats wrong with loving someone and wanting to be loved

>>36830232
Nothing, but your misery and self-hatred due to it is not healthy.

>>36829742
True words spoken here brothers. I'm actually rather successful in terms of employment and education, which I've been told are important in life. But for as long as I've been good at academics I've always wished to just have one girl truly love me. In my quest to figure it out I've tried to become powerful enough to bend everyone else to my will but all it does is kill my soul. We walk the path straight into the abyss.

>>36826470
Maybe its not either of those, but I still do want to have someone that loves me and will be with me for the rest of my life. Perhaps that's what drives me. The drive to want a gf, and make her my wife.

I've literally never touched a woman in a sexual/romantic way, or come anywhere close to doing so. That sure as hell is bothering me.

>Isn't there anything you want to do? Isn't there anything you want to be?
No and no, sadly

>>36826633
Pretty much this.
Its the feeling of being rejected by your own species for not being good enough. After a while it really starts pissing you off. Why can't I have the same things that everyone else gets?

>>36830263
I dont have either of those things and if I did it would have do with more than just no gf

Social and emotional validation, such as in being wanted, lovable and desirable. Their self worth is attached to these things.

Society dictates that involuntary virginity signals a male a low status and a failure. Losing his virginity would probably be some sort of reivindication accomplishment to prove he's valuable and good enough. Robots are already too impaired to accomplish it so they get obsessed and desperate. It's understandable but not healthy. It's such a waste.

>>36826633
>>36828485
>>36828435

Kind of this.

I can't really fathom it either.