Go to McMansion in nicer part of Houston to meet with potential

>>36748034

$45 sounds like an awful lot tbqh

I take private singing lesson from a professional singer and singing teacher for 40 euros per full hour. Unless you are a guitar genius giving master classes your prices are off the wall.

>>36748050
There's a lot of prep time. I customize every lesson to the student's needs.

>>36748050
>>36748075

a dollar a minute is pretty standard, I'm surprised he's not charging more for travel

When studied at my conservatory it was 60 dollars for 60 minutes

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>>36748034
because we actually know how to handle money unlike you poorfags

>>36748050
>>36748075
Oh come on
Plumbers charge more than this
It's not like you bastards can't afford it

>>36748105
Would you want to live in a world where some chum teaching some kid how to play a power chord earns more than a skilled worker actually getting shit done?

>>36748105
How much do plumbers make, I heard that it's not as good as Mike Rowe makes it out to be.

>>36748105
>Plumbers charge more than this
No they don't. $60 and hour is fucking loads

http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Plumber/Hourly_Rate

>>36748123
How is being a musician not skilled labor? It's working with your hands, and it requires a lot of practice. What's the difference?

>>36748099
Being fucking whiny and greedy and cheap is less money handling and more lack of character and strength

>>36748099

Not really. When you are that rich, spending time haggling over a couple of dollars is retarded. You are actually losing money and making yourself look bad at the same time.

>>36748147

Sitting on your butt playing a guitar versus laying and moving brick outside.

>>36748147
Hahahahahaha

But no on the real I like making beats and want to start selling them. I think real instruments are gay thoigh.

>>36748147
Depends on the skill level. I doubt that OP is a professional musician or at least professionally trained to give lessons. To charge the same as an actual professional seems pretty dumb.

>>36748034
>They ask for a discount.

Your immediate answer should be one of these:
>I charge the same price for everyone.
>I'll give you 10% off if you can get a friend to take lessons from me.

>>36748075
I'm Asian and my white customers always tip me $15-30. Getting a tip for teaching music is unheard of, but I'm really good and dedicated to my students.

>>36748134
How much trades pay greatly depends on your location, and differs more based on your expertise level, and whether you're independent, contractor, or employed with a business

Mike Rowe has an agenda to promote blue collar jobs so he always greatly over sells how much trades make and usually just puts out the cap-pay as the standard pay some kid will get on day 1.

>>36748134
It's really not. The average pay for skilled laborers is heavily skewed by people that overcharge and contractors working on new homes (who often aren't just some 20 year old dropout that did a 6 month apprenticeship).

>>36748168
Money is a transaction that gives people what they want. That's all that it is.

If people want happiness through learning music, then so be it. It's chump change in the long run.

>>36748177
In the end I told them I'd give them a 10% discount if they prepaid the whole month. $162 for 4 lessons is cheap.

>>36748050
>>36748098
That's nothing. When I was taking lessons, my instructor charged $120 for two hours.

>>36748050

1 on 1 tutoring is pretty intensive. I mean, at most jobs you can check your email, etc. And you have to take travel times into account.

>>36748236
I make $120 in a day selling burgers. Fuck you.

>>36748234

Good move. Prepaying prevents a lot of grief/flaking. And there's always a chance they just randomly ghost you without using all their lessons.

Not to mention the many times I get to teach cute teen girls how to play ukulele.

Life is gud.

>>36748236
Unless your instructor was Steve Vai that is way too much.

>>36748168
So "skilled labor" is determined by how heavy your tools are? Sounds like bullshit, because traditional "skilled labor" jobs cover a wide spectrum of physical requirements. For example, you don't need to be very strong to be an electrician.

>>36748291
Masters level piano and vocals maybe. They also meet less frequently. Maybe 1 or 2 times a month.

>>36748257
> $120 in a day
First world people can't be real robots.

>>36748204
It's funny how many people on 4chan who constantly shill for trades and always throw out the "hurr college dumb. Go to trade school ull make 90k starting fresh out of school"

The only people in trades making anywhere near that much are working 14-16 hour days, 6 days a week, at odd hours, and usually on government funded jobs.

>>36748312
That's almost minimum wage in San Francisco.

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>>36748099
>haggling with the grocery cashier, restaurant owner, and hell, probably even the gas station attendant, is "smart"

>>36748339
daddyofive tier, meight

>>36748332
136$ is a monthly minimum wage in my country.

>>36748198
That makes a lot of sense I guess I should just stay in college then, thanks for the info

>>36748367
How are you on the internet and why aren't you working instead of shitposting?

>>36748204
Honestly, fraud is the best way to go with this
You act like you are a contractor, say you can do a job for way under market value
You get 'injured' the first day on the job and are unable to complete it
You get workers comp on their dime since you are not licensed to do the work they contracted you to do
I know people who make a clean 60-70k a year doing this year round

>>36748344
Never watched that but you seem like an uptight moron

>>36748376
It's better than flipping burgers or working in retail but college will usually pay out more in the long run, especially once you start nearing 30 and your body starts giving away.

>>36748418
the duct tape makes it creepy and gay

>>36748379
I am currently failing a goverment paid uni education. Also we do have computers in Russia.

how you think they got where they are?

>>36748457
well, if it's gov paid you can subtract that from what americans make because we don't do that

our schools are much better.... i wish everything was private instead of gov funded

>>36748446
Yeah and burying your kid in the beach sand to their head is harmful to the child? Grow up and stop bubbling your child

>>36748495
you're creepy AND geigh

>>36748571
Hmm is this a roastie or a pajeet?

>>36748367
but you have lots of blonde russian babes. life must be too great for you

>>36748168
sitting on your butt in a lab versus laying and moving a brick outside

>>36748621
Yeah, but It does not stop me from being a KV.

>>36748034
Is that a mcmansion or an actual mansion?

>>36748034

I lived in India for a couple years.

Haggling is necessary for almost ever transaction outside of restaurants, general stores, and big shops. If you want to buy a scarf from a market or hire an electrician to fix a fix an outlet, you have to barter. The expectation is that everyone is going to milk as much money out of you as possible and that it's your responsibility to ensure a fair price.

Having said that, I think the tendency of well-off South Asians to haggle into oblivion is somewhat indicative of the awful state of their country. Some rural villages are basically run like feudal kingdoms because a handful of rich folks exploit and indenture starving peasants to work land which their families used to own.

Most Indians I know who have lived in the US for a long time know they're not supposed to haggle. My mom has a graduate education but also does a lot of athletics coaching; she told me Indians ten or twenty years ago used to piss her off by trying to negotiate the price and wouldn't get it when she said, "The rate isn't going to change just for you."

She said it's a lot better now (a lot of the middle-aged Indians here have been here for 10 or 20 years), but there are probably still some obnoxious holdouts.

>>36748730
>KV
i'm sorry, a whut?

>>36748099
>India one of the most poverty stricken countries in the world
>only find success when they come to the west or engage in business in India with westerners
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>36748105
>>36748137
well when you really need a plumber you either pay him or have to leave your house to shit and shower. few people urgently need a guitar tutor like they would need a plumber

>>36748099
by not buying toilet paper?

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>>36748774
Get the fuck out right now!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>36748754
that's cool now that i know it's cultural

I gave them a pseudo 10% discount

>>36748774
Key Variable

>>36748802
kissing virgin isn't too shabby

but i thought you meant some russian slang

>>36748782
>few people urgently need a guitar tutor like they would need a plumber

kid wants to get laid

that's pretty serious problem, meight

>>36748748
>mansion

not even, dude. this is the typical oil-rich suburban house in houston

6 figure family

>>36748800
hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

>>36748782
Or hire a competing plumber who will do it for cheaper. Nearly every handy man will try to rip you off but their tune changes the moment you drop the name of their competition

>>36748123
i can see first-rate teachers getting big rates but if you're teaching power chords to a kid thats not worth more than $20 an hour

there are literal basic guitar courses free online so really a teacher is only good for mentoring purposes and refinement

>>36748098
>>36748236
you're kidding right? Richfag here, my tutor charges $480 for an 8 hour day of lessons.

>>36748236
>That's nothing. When I was taking lessons, my instructor charged $120 for two hours.
you people need real teachers
my instructor charged me $180 for three hour lessons and I was proud to pay it

>>36748034
Wow, that guy must be retarded. You could learn on your own with jewtube videos for free. I doubt you can teach him anything that he can't find for free online. He probably wants to be your friend and do gay poopoo shit.

>>36751668
>He probably wants to be your friend and do gay poopoo shit.
honestly this

>>36751668
normies aren't as independently minded as autists

that's why the tutoring business is booming

>>36748034
get fucked fretfag your instruments is the memest .