why are modern humans so weak?

Technology causes atrophy for whatever it's being utilized to compensate for.

We outsource our abilities to our technology.

>>36748002
>>36748002
Look at how thick those bones are. Prehistoric humans must've been tanks.

>>36748207

For example, people who walk with shoes have weak feet, but people who don't wear shoes find them restrictive and a hinderance to performance, since they cannot use theirs toes to grip.

Basically modern civilized people are degenerate fops.

I mean the robots in here can't even walk out into the open air without having an anxiety attack.

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>>36748002
>ywn have a thick, robust Neanderthal skull
Fuck it feels bad. Although I do have a pretty heavy brow ridge, the aesthetics of it are fucked up because I'm a jawlet/chinlet and my hairline is receding. Also, neanderthals were pretty extreme manlets so there were negatives

Because since humans started to settle into agricultural communities they began to rely less and less on physical strength, meaning being physically strong was not required to survive and pass on your genes.

>>36748267
Shoes are a pretty bad example, considering that frostbite is a thing and losing your toes to it would sort of defeat the purpose of not wearing them

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How long do you think a modern human would last in a fist fight with a neanderthal

>>36748340

You need to do research first before commenting about this... clearly you're not comprehending that I'm referring to studies about athletic performance with shoes vs shoeless....

Look into this and get back to me.

>>36748420
I'd say a modern equivalent would be to consider how long a human could last in hand to hand combat with a chimp? Not very...

>>36748597
>what's a neanderthal?

>>36748679
Your mom is neanderthal

>>36748340
ITT >/r9k/thread/36748733

>>36748002
because the queen of blades abandoned us

>>36748267
what's up with you and the shoes? Like every one of your posts is about shoes

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>>36748002
Only some of us

>>36748002
Also you're comparing a subsaharan African which, along with Asians, are extremely neotenous

>>36749960
superior taste anon

>>36748420
Holy shit we would get destroyed. Neanderthals were stocky and extremely well muscled; they would win by use of brute force/strength. Modern humans only drove them to extinction via interbreeding/superior weapon technology. Without the weapons we probably would have been rekt

>>36748597
More like a modern human vs. a teenage gorilla.

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>>36748420
Not too well I imagine

>>36750569
damn he got some joosy gains...just needs to cut for summer

>>36750413
Prognathism is not neotenic.

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>>36750894
That's not fat, that's his ribs. Honestly I think the person that did the reconstructions really underestimated the muscle mass of the nigga. With the amount of bowing on those bones he's probably look like this.

>>36750982
Yes it is. It's not a robust trait, it's a trait that's an adaptation to eating poorly cooked foods and hard foods. Look it up mang.

>>36751005
>>36750982
and by "yes it is" I mean that it can be and can not be. It's separate from neoteny

>>36751005
It is genetic. It is one of the main ways to tell races apart by their skulls.

>>36751043
And sub-saharran Africans are more neotenous than Europeans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny_in_humans

>>36751018
It is not seperate from neoteny. A flatter face is more neotenic.

too many comforts

>>36751072
No it's not you mong. Seriously, do some actual research. It's a feature that is archaic, not neotenous.

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>>36751061
African babies develop quicker than European babies. They have more protruding profiles.
>>36751101
Yes it is, imbecile. Consult pic related for hard proof.

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>>36748002
outta my way aurignacoid fucking shit

>>36751192
Looks like the fucking terminator

>>36750989
>>36750989

Yeah this was strictly up to the person who did the reconstruction. weather to put maximum muscle mass or malnourished... this seems like a compromise... in my mind I think there should be less definition because more fat content is needed to insulate from the elements.

>>36751161
Which is why Europeans are less neotenous than Negros yet negros have a high degree of prognathism on average, right? Please take your pseudo-scientific bullshit out of here. It's an archaic trait, not an neotenous trait. The shorter and faster growth cycle in Africans is an artifact of mating strategy. Also you're taking the "definition" of neoteny too seriously.

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>>36751291
It is what neoteny means, idiot, and slower growth is also a sign of neoteny.
Negroes are not neotenic.

>>36751236
You're talking about 5'5" manlets that would have weighed in at 177lbs+ of muscle and fat. Imagine that shit. Try to find an MMA fighter that weighs about 175-180 lbs, is 5'5", and has spent his entire life doing nothing but ambush hunting wild game.

>>36751344
Literally every characteristic about that nigga is non-robust with the exception of his big ass mouf

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>>36751344
friendly reminder that not everyone looks like that, that's just a very extreme case of a nigga with a fucked up jaw

>>36751344
Powerful info... hominids of all variety just kill and interbreed throughout all of time with eachother... geez... no wonder you chanfags are so racist. Barbaric minded, still in the cave.

>>36751395

I do see your point...

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>>36751450
Sub-saharan africans do have more protruding profiles than Europeans do on average.
It is not the case that Europeans only have neotenic traits and Africans have no neotenic traits, but if we go by their overall appearance then Europeans are more neotenic.

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>>36751450
Nigga, niggas have, on average, mouths that have like 20-30% more volume than everyone else except fucking abos

Diversity of survival niches. There are still guys who have caveman bones but most humans I think at least I the West have developed toward social adjustability and specialized skills instead of heartiness and strength. We work in packs so we don't need to be physically powerful individually.

>>36751538
>>36751555
yeah sure, but it's kinda slight, nobody looks like that fucking dude

>>36751619
>nobody looks like that fucking dude
He does.

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>>36751538
>using an extreme example of a Russian chick
Fucking PATHETIC. Here's an example of a white male.

>>36748002
For some reason it was naturally selected

somehow smarter individuals were selected more. I'm not sure how since baby faced nerds these days are highly overlooked

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>>36751619
Get fucked faggot fucking queer faq cunt origami

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>>36751291
if a big mouth isn't the opposite if neonate I don't know what is

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>>36751641
He was 64 years old at that time. Still he has a very compact face, deep-set eyes, large forehead, all neotenic traits.
Here is a random African-American. He has a much more elongated face.

>>36751812
Deep set eyes are neotenic you dipshit.

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>>36751631
damn you got me

>>36751749
so? they still don't look like that literal chimp

plus it looks more protruding because of the big lips, it's not just the shape of the skull

>>36751929
That is literally what I said.

>>36751944
>homo erectus is "a literal chimp"
Fucking kill yourself. Also, no, it's his the lips. Take a fucking class in physical anthropology. Even the cucked shit that's taught today will teach that, in general the (once referred to as "negroid") populations have a higher degree of prognathism. Just shut the fuck already and do some actual reading before spouting your bullshit.

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>>36751812
I have something to say

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>>36751681
It is because it was men doing the selection.

>>36751982
I clearly meant aren't, fuck you. Fuck off. Take your pseudo scientific bullshit elsewhere.

>>36752032
It's not use, he's read some meme books about the subject and thinks he knows it all.

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>>36752032
>>36752042
Deep set eyes are a feature of more compact faces.

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>>36752138
Uhhh
tuyghl;l';

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>>36752103
Unlike you, who has consulted the wikipedia article on the subject.

>>36752190
They both have deep-set eyes. Ron Pearlman just has a bigger brow-ridge and nasal-bone. And they are both European Jews.

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>>36752197
Just as a common point of reference :)

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>>36752190
is that a nigger?

>>36752229
The fact that they both have deep set eyes is my point. The filename is just for memery. Ron Pearlman has a long as fuck face and distinct prognathism and yet he has deep set eyes.

>>36751538
Sub-saharan africans also have more genetic diversity than all other human races combined, which is why only pseudoscientific racists consider these averages useful.

>>36752312
A compact face is a combination of many features. If Ron Pearlman had bulging eyes his face would be less compact than it currently is.

>>36752346
if monkies had more genetic diversity does that make them better?

I'd say no

>>36752255
I don't care what anyone says, Review Brah is alpha as FUCK.

>>36752346
They also have lower IQs than every other race, except the Australian Negro.

>>36752392
It means that looking at them as a monolith is fucking retarded. Similarly, you could take all other races combined and draw averages from that pool. It's fucking useless.
No proper scientist classifies races just based on skin colour or location, but genetics. All else is pseudoscience.

>>36752452
see>>36752500
Who has lower IQ? All of the thousands of distinct ethnic populations in africa? Some of them? Which ones?
Oh...of course...the black ones :^)

>>36752500
they got some fucked genetics since they're so prone to violence likes chimps are

in africa they fucking kill albinos thinking it will give them magic powers or something

>>36748597
>>36750454
>>36750569
your all forgetting about our massive height advantage. compared to a modern human a Neanderthal would look like a really bulky child

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>>36752555
>>36752500
>>36752452
Hmm
tuyiuhijokp

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>>36752566
>in africa they fucking kill albinos thinking it will give them magic powers or something

and "white" people use to burn women because they thought they were witches

You are adding nothing to this thread, please stop posting

>>36748267
>>36748550
Shoes give a bigger benefit than shoe-less. Broken skin on the feet was death. Trench foot was death. There's a reason we started putting skins, then leather on our feet.

>>36752658
It was an intimidation tactic, to keep roasties in check. The Africans actually walk into combat unarmed, because they think the albino they ate last night grants them immunity to bullets.

>>36752658
>>36752566

Lets stay on topic... we're talking physical morphology not temperment or culture.

>>36752658
now looks at crime rates

any country you look at in the world blacks will commit more % of the violent crimes than they make up in population %

>>36752658
>muh culture
Let me guess, next you'll say that there's more "genetic diversity between individuals than there is between 'races'"?

>>36752689

You're confusing cultural artifacts with utility... shoe should be warn for specific tasks... daily use should be without support or the foot atrophies. It's already part of sport science that depends strictly on performance... so it's not a debate.

>>36752716
you're off topic... don't try to side step the subject of morphology.

>>36752649
Again. These avarages don't say much since there is so much genetic variation in very densely populated areas. Also this picture doesn't correct for the Flynn effect.
But even if all black would still turn out less intelligent than other races, this still wouldn't disprove anything I said. Viewing them as a monolith is scientifically incorrect and likely leads to false impressions. This is true for other races as well but it is especially harmful when looking at sub saharans given their high genetic variation.

>>36752729
Since you were talking about culture yourself, this is a reasonable rebuttal. Unless you believe that blacks have a albino killing gene.

>>36752809
Yeah you're going on tangents about IQ and etc you can't hold a proper debate if youre constantly going on tangents and changing the topic.

>>36752780
Until last century walking bare foot meant walking on cobble, rock/shit infested muddy water, or rough fields for 14 hours. Walking barefoot without care is thanks to modern technology.

>>36752893
Yeah but at hat cost? Should we always be wearing gloves because it protects the hands? C'mon.... it's about utility... use a tool when you need it and then don't but like I said... this is SPORTS Science...they only interested in performance so fact remains that people who walk barefoot or with minimal support preform better. There's really no debate unless you're talking about preferance.

>>36752880
The fuck are you talking about? I wasn't the one who brought IQ up. I was talking about how races are classified and how the high genetic variation in sub saharan africans makes looking at them as a monolith not useful.
I'm not changing the fucking topic, you are, wanting to talk about how I conduct my reasoning, rather than the reasoning itself. Do you have actual rebuttals to my position?

because millions of weak human lifes are sustained by a handfull of strong humans.
so weak humans still breed.

wait a second what do you consider weak ?
someone who will get sick if he eats indian food ?

Humans survive thanks to our comparative inteligence, so evolution favors that over being dumb muscular shits.

>>36752970
I don't know who is who or who said what... eveyone is Anon to me. and I'm holding two debates at once... so let me just say that if you're arguing about race or who is superior, every group have traits specific to their region that maximizes their abilities to survive.... some human groups and see and stay under water longer... some can live at high altitude and extreme conditions... etc. The one defining thing that shows if we are of the same species is the fact that we can interbreed.

....that said, I'm going to work... have a nice day anons.

Are modern humans the numales of the olden days?

>>36752965
Were talking about how previous generations were stronger than us. My point is, a person who wears boots is much stronger than a person who died because they got a foot injury that got infected because they had not boots.

You are also arguing that we are getting weaker. Except is not using a tool considered a strength? A person using an exosuit can lift significantly more than a person who isn't.

I'm not saying we should forgo physical training. A base is required. But using our assets doesn't make us weak.

When full cybernetics are complete, which looks like within a 100 years. We will be 1000x stronger than our ancestors.

>>36753478
I Fully Agree with you Anon, well met.

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