>tfw born in Europe >tfw the jew didnt rob me of 2 million

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Fucking kikes.
Most parents here have no idea what their doing when they allow their kid to be circumcised. They just assume "My parents did it to me, it must be good"

>>36524185
>Jew
I swear to fucking God I'm willing to ditch my religion because of that. Nobody deserves to have their genitals mutilated because some dumbass in a desert 3000+ years ago thought it was a good idea.

>>36524314

It's sad when some doctors believe circumcision to be beneficial. Circumcision shouldn't even be allowed. Doctors should be refusing to do it.

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>>36524185
>when you're cut and can't cum from blowjobs or handjobs
>last until the girl complains half the time

I just want to be able to cum sometimes.

>>36524431
Had to cum as a middle schooler by humping my bed. I despise it.

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>>36524185
>tfw my dick doesn't look disgusting
>tfw no dick cheese
feels good being cut desu, wouldn't have it any other way

>>36524457
How do you cum from humping?

>>36524491
friction. Also use soft blanket.

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>>36524467
>tfw smart enough to wash your uncut dick

Seriously just wash it

>>36524467
>>36524185

>uncut is gross because it looks weird!

Decades of brainwashing is still having a strong effect on the PEOPLE. It's not a legit reason to get cut. That foreskin may look weird, but provides comfort and stimulation.

It's disgusting that so many children get mutilated because people are so scared of being called anti-Jew

>>36524467
>wouldn't have it any other way.

Couldn't have it any other way*

>>36524185
>Masturbation still feels amazing though
I don't get this meme. I'm literally a cutfag but you can still use the skin of your penis to fap.

>>36524382
Dirty jew detected

>>36524720

Not all circumcision is the same. Some circumcised men have no 'foreskin' at all to have slide up and down the shaft so lubrication or a sex aid is a must. Needing to use your skin at all to masturbate still justifies the banning of circumcision.

>>36524491
Elliot Rodger style famalam

>>36524572
Uncut is more aesthetic in my opinion.

>>36524917

Yes. Makes the head shinier and gives something to play with.

>>36524779
>Some circumcised men have no 'foreskin' at all
What do you mean? It's just skin, under it is muscle and blood vessels, as distinct from the foreskin which is just an extra layer of skin. I was circumcised, but that doesn't mean they removed the base skin, just the foreskin.

Circumcision is different from flat out skinning the entire dick, right?

>>36524185
>tfw my foreskin is still rather short, so my dick never looks like a fucking worm as in pic related

Same here actually, I wondered if I was just half-circumcised or something. I heard stories of other intact bros being able to like tie their foreskin around like a balloon and I was just confused.

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>>36524407
>hospital administrator comes into the surgery
>has found out I haven't circumcised any newborn baby boys
>wants me to give babies circumcisions or else he'll sack me
>give him a lethal dose of morphine instead

>>36525001
Yeah I just stroke the shaft. Never needed lube unless I wanted it

>>36525001
>just the foreskin

>just

Look at a circumcision video.

It's still slicing off some of the most sensitive parts of the human penis.

The skin grew back, but obviously never as good as it originally was. That's also why cut dicks are two different colors that immediately changes where the foreskin used to be, like they have a farmer's tan.

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>>36524185
>Thread about circumcision
>Cutlets crawl out of the desensitised woodwork and actually try to justify and defend their mutilation
Hey, at least you don't have to worry about smegma though.

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>>36525001

Not everyone gets the same cut.

Is circumcision mandatory in America? Because if not, your parents are shit and you should hate them, seriously

>>tfw my foreskin is still rather short, so my dick never looks like a fucking worm as in pic related

Pic related looks perfectly fine, and I say this as a guy who was extremely tightly circumcised.

I think the covered glans when flaccid looks BETTER than what I have.

It's really a matter of opinion.

>>36525065
>That's also why cut dicks are two different colors that immediately changes where the foreskin used to be, like they have a farmer's tan.
This actually explains a lot

>>36525184
No, it isn't.

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>>36525112
>tfw high and tight
at least it wasn't low and tight

>>36525184
Nope.
But it's the cultural norm.

I'll never fucking understand why any man allows his son to undergo circumcision. I'm willing to bet it's mainly pressure from the wife and the "default" option at hospitals.
It's disgusting, honestly.

And stupid as well. I really don't see how would an intelligent parent allow circumcision. Something tells me uncut (white) Americans have higher IQ than cut whites

>>36525001

>It's just skin, under it is muscle and blood vessels, as distinct from the foreskin which is just an extra layer of skin.

The foreskin isn't "just skin". It is a highly specialized muscular organ that is well-integrated with the rest of the penis.

If you were circ'd, muscle was cut out your penis--and so were the most sensual and erogenous parts of your penis (including the frenular delta and ridged band particularly).

>The dartos smooth muscle is specific to the male external genitalia and the vast majority of the penile dartos muscle is contained within the prepuce. The dartos muscle consists of smooth muscle cells invested with elastic fibres (Fig. 8). From the prepuce, the delicate, attenuated penile dartos muscle surrounds the shaft of the penis and is continuous with the scrotal dartos muscle. The penile dartos muscle is temperature-dependent and allows for the volume changes required for erection [58]. The function of the dartos...has been well described by Jefferson, and its loss to circumcision explains the altered response of the circumcised penis to temperature changes. In the infant, the muscle fibres are intertwined and arranged in a mosaic-like pattern [59], causing the distal prepuce to pucker and close like a one-way valve [60]. When comparing the dartos muscle layer of the prepuce in males before and after puberty, the ratio of muscle fibres to elastic fibres decreases. This may explain why on gross inspection the distal prepuce is puckered in the infant and appears more relaxed in the adult. The increase in elastic fibres may be necessary for the uncomplicated eversion of the glans in the adult...Nerve bundles of the prepuce run alongside the dartos muscle.

http://www.i2researchhub.org/wp-content/uploads/storage/TQ63QSHD/Cold%20and%20Taylor%20-%201999%20-%20The%20prepuce.pdf

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>>36524185
Thew jews robbed me or all nerve endings, not just 2 million.
I don't know of it's my shit circumcision or I'm just fucked in the head, but I literally feel nothing. NOTHING.

>tfw don't even have a frenulum

>>36525258
>At least
What's the difference?

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>>36524720

>I'm literally a cutfag but you can still use the skin of your penis to fap.

Does the skin on your shaft still move, or is it absolutely stuck in place?

If it's the former, then you were loosely circumcised. Less of the tissue of your penis was amputated, compared to someone with a tight circumcision.

Here is a video of a guy who was tightly circumcised trying to masturbate. Notice, the remaining skin on his penis is absolutely stuck in place. It doesn't move, so he can't do it like an intact guy or a loosely circumcised guy could.

http://www.xtube.com/video-watch/Too-tight-circumcision-18957992

Compare this to a guy who is intact. Notice how much the skin moves.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Foreskin_gliding_action_in_masturbation.ogv

If you were loosely circumcised, then you still are missing part of your penile tissue, but not as much as the first guy, who was cut tight. So you might still be able to move the skin.

If you had been cut tight, this would not be an option for you.

>>36525311

The foreskin is estimated to contain about 20,000 nerve endings. While that is not the purported "2 million" of the OP, it's a fucking lot.

It also removes the most specialized erogenous tissue of the human penis. The best-feeling, most sensual nerve endings are in the foreskin itself, not the glans.

>>36525374
The higher the cut, the more inner foreskin is left over.

>>36525410

but less sensation means I'll last longer during sex. If I had more sensitive I would cum within minutes or even seconds and my girlfriend would not want to stay with me unless she was okay with no sex.

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>>36525374

Low and tight removes almost all the relatively sensitive inner mucosa, so you basically just have shaft skin, a scar, and the glans.

It keeps the penis from looking so jarringly two-toned (because all or almost all the mucous membrane has been ablated), but removes basically all the most erogenous tissues, often including the frenulum (although some high circumcisions also take the frenulum).

>>36524185
>tfw my foreskin is still rather short, so my dick never looks like a fucking worm as in pic related

Just pull it back whenever you're in the shower or whenever you masturbate. Pull it back as much as you can until it hurts, keep it pulled back for 5 minutes, repeat every day. After a month or two you'll be able to pull it back all the way, helps if you rub some lube under there.

>>36525410
Strange, because my gland is way more sensitive: simply rubbing it makes me twitch uncontrollably. And it's not like I never touched it or anything...

>>36525435

A large Danish study found that premature ejaculation was equally common among intact and circumcised males, but the partners of circumcised males were more likely to report frequent difficulty attaining orgasm during sex with their partners, and frequent pain during sex.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21672947

>Circumcision was associated with frequent orgasm difficulties in Danish men and with a range of frequent sexual difficulties in women, notably orgasm difficulties, dyspareunia and a sense of incomplete sexual needs fulfilment. Thorough examination of these matters in areas where male circumcision is more common is warranted.

>>36525435

Stop being a faggot to yourself. You literally experience less pleasure. The End.

No amount of verbiage and words can paper over the fact that you got cucked by a tradition.

It's okay. Most people deny it because they're faggots but tragedy exists in the world. Not everyone can beat the casino of life.

>>36525277

http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/vanderkolk/

if circumcision is bad then why do guys like this exist >>36525492

He's circumcised and fine with it. He still has satisfying orgasms despite being circumcised.

>>36525516
Does foreskin restoration work? Or does that only create extra useless skin?

>>36525277

Even though my dad was "culturally" jewish, he didn't get me circumcised. I'm glad of that decision everyday in my life. Whether I'm fapping or dropping a load down my gf's throat.

>>36525492

The glans is almost entirely innervated with pain-sensitive nocioceptors.

>>36525561

It can't give you back the actual muscle and nerve endings that were in the foreskin that got cut off. At best it could give you an imitation and restore some of the gliding action.

Foregen is working on figuring out how to restore REAL foreskins.

>>36525630
It makes me wonder... Arabs have a more agressive circumcision vs the west (almost all of them have low and tight circumcisions) yet they are the most crazed sex maniacs.
Why?

Circumcision isn't the same as castration.

>>36525775

>Arabs have a more agressive circumcision vs the west (almost all of them have low and tight circumcisions)

I'm not sure there's any data showing that to be the case. Do you have a link?

Seemingly, aggressive circumcisions were very common in the US up until relatively recently. Some American doctors specifically advocated for them.

http://www.noharmm.org/docswords.htm

It's relatively recently (probably starting around the 90's, roughly) that more doctors in the US have started doing them looser.

http://www.thewholenetwork.org/twn-news/my-son-needs-to-be-re-circumcised

>>36525801

Castration is removal of the testicles. Circumcision is removal of the ridged band, dartos muscle, and variable amounts of other penile structures.

>>36525550
Because not all cutfags are the same, obviousley. Besides, if he wasnt cut he'd feel a lot more pleasure either way.

>>36525801
Nobody in this thread ever implied such a thing.

>>36524185
Wtf. Fuck you I'm not believing this shit.
Uncut is ugly anyways. Fuck off.

>>36525889

Wai are you so angry, anon?

>>36525917
Idk. This thread is probably uncut propaganda anyways.
All ultra chads have uncut penis. So yeah.

>>36525940

So...you're feeling envious because your foreskin was stolen?

>>36525835
Search for Arab dick pics on twitter and you'll see they are all tight lol. No official sources though. I was born and circumcised in an arab country and I also have a low circumcision with no frenulum

>>36526023

I'm sorry to hear it. I was circumcised in the US, though, and I also have a low and tight cut, with very little frenulum (the tiny piece I have left is by far the most erogenous part of my penis).

Would be interesting if they studied it. I know in Jewish law, removal of the frenulum is considered necessary; a circumcision where the frenulum is not ablated does not count as a fulfilled brit milah.

I hope if you have a son you won't mutilate him.

>>36525889
What about the OP is so hard to believe, anon? the foreskin containing many nerve endings seems (and has been proven to be) obvious, if thats what you mean.

>>36525001
Not all cuts are equal, the amount of skin they cut and the position where they start cutting can vary

I'm cut but I still have enough skin to cover the head of my penis when it's soft, some guys have it cut tight as a drum where you can't even move the skin up and down the shaft when it's hard and the really unlucky ones can't even do this when it's soft either

>>36526700

I was cut extremely low and tight and it really fucking sucks.

>>36524382
I'd call you a kike but you sound alright.

>tfw American.
>tfw uncut
>tfw phimosis

m...maybe I'll get a gf who will help me stretch?

>>36527251

See a doctor for your phimosis. They will recommend you a steroid cream and give you a brochure on stretching exercises. If they recommend a circumcision get a second opinion. :)

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>>36524185
>tfw circumcised
>luckily doctor fucked up and left part of frenulum in
>normal cut
>gets the benefits of extra girth with a cut frenulum and also can experience extreme pleasure if i rub my frenulum

>>36524719
>what is restoration?

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>>36527382
also i ment length, but i'm above average in both

>>36525550
Simple. He still has 1/4th nerve endings. You can have satisfying orgasms using 1/4th nerve endings, you just have a smaller pleasurable area on your penis, and you loose the natural loose gliding function of a foreskin (as in, do you ever notice how if you grab your shaft at the very bottom and stroke upwards, i.e. pulling your skin up, that it feels fantastic? That's how uncut feels every single time, no matter where they stroke.)

Circumcision removes roughly 3/4ths of the nerve endings of the penis. This is quite a lot, but you can still of course enjoy orgasims with only 1/4th of the nerve endings. If it removed almost all nerve endings however (like the botched circumcisions that remove 11/12ths nerve endings) you might have an incredibly difficult time orgasming.

>>36527383

Not the same thing, doesn't give you back the missing nerve endings.

>>36527462

It will at least provide comfort and some gliding action.

>>36527580

Yeah but the point is, at least with current technology, once you get circumcised, there really is no going back to the way it was before.

Cut guys are more or less stuck that way...even if they restore, they're still circumcised and are missing a lot of specialized tissue that they can't regain.

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>>36524185
>born in america
>got jewwed as a baby
>still have to live in this shithole
fuck...
GREATEST THRILL OF MY LIIIIFE
TO SLIT MY OWN COCK WITH A KNIIIIIFEEEE

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How the fuck do I cope with the fact that I lose 3/4ths of the nerve endings on my penis, and the fact that if I ever get to have sex in my lifetime, it'll never be natural, with all nerve endings and proper gliding function? How the fuck do I cope with this?

Also, for anyone wondering why circumcisions are so heavily recommended (to the extent that many babies get circ'd automatically by default if the insurance covers it) the answer is obvious to anyone who's ever worked in the medical field: profit. Circumcision makes a shitton of profit, considering it's a quick easy operation (babies can't complain and can have all their limbs strapped down without resistance) that results in not only a clean $850, but they actually resell the foreskin (for beauty products and other health items) for straight bank.

It's all about profit. That's why female circumcision has been banned for the last thirty years, but male circumcision will never be banned. Men are second-class citizens, this is undeniable proof of that.

>>36527733
>female circumcision

Please explain this.

>>36524185
>tfw mutilated
>tfw my dickhead is as calloused as my heels

It's not fair bros. I didn't ask for this

>>36527787

https://aeon.co/essays/are-male-and-female-circumcision-morally-equivalent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50BaM7H2GLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb_YPFrWty0

>>36527787
There's not much to explain. Female circumcision was once recommended by doctors in the United States (there's an old Playboy magazine that ran an article shilling the practice) for the EXACT SAME REASONS male circumcision is recommended. "Cleaner, healthier, prevents diseases, aesthetic, etc" and all the other completely bullshit lies that they tell just so they can make some profit.

>>36527733

>How the fuck do I cope with the fact that I lose 3/4ths of the nerve endings on my penis, and the fact that if I ever get to have sex in my lifetime, it'll never be natural, with all nerve endings and proper gliding function? How the fuck do I cope with this?

Realize that this world is absolutely stark raving mad.

>>36527863

There are a lot of different kinds of female circumcision, though. Some kinds are much milder than typical forms of male circumcision that occur often in the US, and other kinds are even more severe.

>>36527899
>its okay because female circumcisions have more varity
wat

>>36527899
oh, i thought u were arguing for circumcison excuse my autism

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>>36527899
Trust me, I know, that's what everyone fucking says. And you know what I have to say to that? First of all, the worldwide ratio of male to female genital mutilation is 100:1, probably even higher for males. Second of all, there are even more severe male circumcisions than female (female circumcisions can actually often be mild, see the pinprick ones) like all the botched sex-life-ruining circs, or even the ones that cause penis removal (like David Reimer, who later commited suicide) or death.

So yes, while you're correct, comparing male and female circ is like comparing something that happens to hundreds of thousands of males each year to something that happens to hundreds of females each year (in terms of the severe circs, not the labia or pinprick ones.)

But yes, your central point is correct. I just get frustrated when I hear your exact same response every goddamn time. It's actually meaningless because female circumcision in the US has been banned for three decades. If you live in the US and are female, you'll never have to worry about being legally forcibly mutilated.

>>36524185
>dick never looks like a fucking worm
not even with flaccid? lying jew fuck, fuck off

>>36524407
>tfw dick was so small when I was born that circumcision was not an option
t-thanks God

>>36527282
2 spooky for me

>implying I would ever get circumcised.

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>>36528083
I am sorry anon, it only reaches up to about 1/3d of my glans, and leave the rest exposed. Also quite handy for when im pissing, as i can simply take the foreskin and strech it forward toward my urethra, bending the spray of piss into a much more stable and controlled stream

>>36528058
Paul D. Tinari has a doctorate in fluid mechanics.
The story is completely fake and you should be ashamed for being stupid enough to believe it.

>>36524185
>looks like a fucking worm
I never understood this meme. Flaccid natural dicks are aesthetic as fuck

>have to live life forever unknowing the pleasure of proper masturbation

god damn muslim parents

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>>36528386
>The story is completely fake
That's a perfectly fine criticism, because even if it's true my central point still stands. Let's look at the facts.
>Babies often scream in pain during circumcisions (due to minimal anesthetic use)
>Infant trauma, if severe enough, causes lifelong limbic system dysfunction

And studies have indeed shown that circumcised babies have difficulty breastfeeding due to the trauma, but I won't add that to my points due to the chance of the study being insufficient.

You should be ashamed for being stupid enough to not realize the central point I was making.

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I'm uncut but it makes me furious how circumcision is even allowed. The first thing you do to a baby when he is born is mutilate their genitals against their will to "look good". Like how the fuck is this legal it's pretty much the most barbaric thing I can think of that is normalized in first world countries. No joke if they made me spend my whole life as a cripplecock just so stacy can get some anti-aging cream and dr. schlomo gets a nice fat cheque. Why just so "it looks good" it fucking doesn't, even if some people think it does why does it matter stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote much less get a choice in putting a gomco clamp on a baby dick against it's will. Honestly need to unabomb some of these circumcision doctors and advocates. The only "scientific explanation for circumcision is to reduce stds, Like do cripple cocks unironically believe they can fuck a girl with 12 stds and walk away unscathed? So stupid, people who think there is any ethical or logical reason to rip a babies fucking dick in half should be lined up and shot in the back of the head.

>>36528316
you know how I know you're full a shit? as a uncut fag, pissing with your dick looking like a worm provides for the most accurate stream. sometimes when I pull the skin back it goes in 2 directions thus all over the place. Like if the stream was being blocked by something half way. pissing with worm dick is best for accurecy. then simply pull skin back and wash in sink.

>>36528477
oh man you took what I said and said it again directed at me you got me there

spreading fake articles hurts your cause by turning away intellectuals and attracting sheep such as yourself

>tfw born in Australia
>barely anybody of my generation circumcised
>I was for some fucking reason

>>36528567
Your experience is not universal. My foreskin covers the tip, and if I don't pull back while pissing it sprays everywhere

>>36528617
fuck m8 same here
although I heard it is higher here than you think
but still makes me fucking RRREEEEEEEEE

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I have never had any feeling in muh dick whatsoever. Tried restoring for 1 1/2 years, still 0 feeling. Went to see a urologist about it only to discover my dorsal nerve is severed and damaged so badly that reconnection would either be impossible or barely restore any feeling.

l8r faggits fuck this retarded planet

>>36528682
take the doctors who cut you with you

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>>36528568
>spreading fake articles
Again, like I said, that's a perfectly fine criticism if it is indeed fake. But, once again, you didn't even respond to my central point.

>>36528568

If you don't believe the story, why don't you e-mail Dr. Tinari himself and ask him about it?

http://drtinari.com/about-dr-tinari/

His email is right there.

>>36528567
I believe you misread my post. I fully agree that pissing is allot harder when your foreskin doesnt cover your urethra, thats why i mentioned stretching it forward toward it. So that i can control it better.

>>36528717
this, at least make the normies aware of this shit

>>36528718

Source on this statistic?

I agree that circumcision is bad, but where is the source that the claims that there's over 100 botched circumcisions in a year?

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>TFW dorsal nerve severed right below head of penis during circumsision
>Statute of limitations past. Can't sue.

One day foregen will fix it.... I hope

>>36528777
Shooting people up would be counterproductive, it would just make intactivists look crazy.

>>36528834

http://www.academia.edu/6394940/Lost_Boys_An_Estimate_of_U.S._Circumcision-Related_Infant_Deaths

>>36525940
>>36525889
This is just sad
Sorry about your dick anon, it's not your fault

>>36528836
Foregen are fucking retarded and I hate them. Over $200k and they've spent like 3/4 of it on web design/"travel"/"business meetings". This isn't something that should be taking 15 years to do, their whole moral high ground bs and crying about finding doctors makes me see the red.

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>>36528508
Cripplecock here, thank you for being angry for me. As I have never felt the pleasure of an actual orgasm since I basically just have meat in between my legs, I don't really know what I'm missing out on. I can still cum, but it doesn't feel as good as everyone on these kinds of threads makes it sound like it should. However, I can only be but mildly upset about my cock being chopped in half at birth since I probably wouldn't have gotten the chance to actually breed either way.

>tfw your foreskin went to Stacy's anti-aging cream

>>36527382
>gets the benefits of extra girth
What did he mean by this

>>36528682
Riperooni. Maybe things won't be so shit next time around.

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>>36524185
>tfw you've never had a strong opinion one way or another on circumcision
>tfw this thread made you realize that male circumcision is literally mutilation, yet normies only care about female genital mutilation
>tfw you're cut

>>36524185
I was born into a Muslim family so I should of been circumcised, luckily I was in intensive care for the first few weeks of my life and then after that it just never happened, now I can live my non-muslim life with my foreskin

>>36528682
[F]
probably joining you soon desu

>>36528927
w-what, don't tell me that's actually a thing.
this is one fucked up world if so.

>>36529025

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/10/baby-foreskin-facial_n_7040808.html

>>36529025
It is indeed a thing. Think about it - collagen from skin is incredibly valuable, and the beauty market is a billion dollar industry. http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/09/23/the-bizarrely-profitable-business-of-baby-foreskins/

>>36529067
>Would you try a baby foreskin facial treatment?
HMMMMM
fucking kill me

>>36527382
>experience extreme pleasure if i rub my frenulum
Now imagine that extreme pleasure from your frenulum but all over the entirety of the head of you penis
>dried out cut motherfucker

threads like these make me feel glad im not circumsized.
Like over the years I realized itd be a lot of trouble just to masturbate without my foreskin.
Like it hurts if you touch the head because its too sensitive?

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>ask parents when exactly I got circumcised
>they tell me they took me home whole
>hospital badgered them with calls every week for the next two months
>finally they brought me in because the doctors said they'd do it for free
I honestly hate my parents for this, nothing they can ever say or do will make this okay.

>>36529178
>>hospital badgered them with calls every week for the next two months
This is exactly what they do. Most doctors circ babies by default if their parent's insurance covers it, meaning the parents have to go out of their way to tell the doctor they don't want their child's genitals mutilated. There was actually a lawsuit over it - the parents specifically told the doc they didn't want their infant's penis chopped up, but the hospital did it anyway because they're so used to automatically cutting up baby penises. It makes them a shitton of profit, $500+ for an easy surgery, and they can even resell the foreskin for a few hundred bucks extra.

>>36528682
Shoot up the hospital that did it if you aren't already dead.

>>36529246
My parents had (and still have) jack shit for health insurance. The doctors literally offered to do it for free so they could sell it. It makes me sick that my foreskin wasn't just stolen from me, but was also used for profit. I literally want to kill the people who allow this to happen, and I don't know how much longer I can stop myself from doing that.

I asked my mom why she did it.
She said because "I didn't want to deal with no yucky smegma! eww haha". Fuck this country.

>>36529458
Ask her why her mother didn't get her labia removed to prevent her own "yucky smegma."

>Sister is 10 weeks pregnant
>Realize if it's a boy, I'm the only one that can save this kid from having his manhood stolen by the Jews

My sister is just gonna do whatever the doctor says and her husband probably doesn't give a fuck and would let the baby get cut. How do I bring up this conversation organically without looking like a weirdo?

>>36529246
>they can even resell the foreskin for a few hundred bucks extra
who wants to buy penis skin??

>>36529561
Try asking >>>/adv/ how to go about your current situation.

>>36529561
I'd say "not to be weird or anything, but over a hundred babies die from circumcision each year, so it's best to protect your child and let him decide what he wants to do."

Granted, there are a metric fuckton more reasons not to mutilate the genitals of a baby, but this is one of the few that would actually appeal to a female (since they don't really inherently understand the massive violation getting part of your penis chopped off entails.)

>>36529599
>who wants to buy penis skin??
Not sure if you're trolling, but if not, read this link. http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/09/23/the-bizarrely-profitable-business-of-baby-foreskins/
>Here exists a Holy Grail in the cosmetic industry to create a cream that sheds years off your skin. Scientists have discovered such a ingredient, fibroblast cells. Fibroblasts cause the skin to regrow the elasticity and elegance of youth for whoever uses a fibroblast-based cream. What is the best source for these wonder cells? Baby foreskins.
>Fibroblasts are what cosmetic companies have been looking for all these years. They are the key to growing new skin and are therefore widely used for skin grafts, pasting skin transplants over sores, and other skin conditions, which makes them great for cosmetic applications. One baby foreskin can be stretched to grow almost $100,000 worth of fibroblasts.

>>36529561
I'm probably going to have to do the same thing. Luckily I have a decent relationship with my sister. The only obstacle I see is if the father is circumcised, many circumcised men refuse to acknowledge that it is a bad thing because they don't want to be seen as a victim.

Anyway, the angle I plan on playing is that it caused stress on me as a child and it hurt the relationship I had with my parents. I'll explain how it always looked funny and the scar was ugly and when I finally learned that I was missing a foreskin it ruined my world view and made me a pessimist. Then I'll go on to explain that it's strained my relationship with my parents and made me very distrustful of them. Finally I'll argue that if he truly wants to be circumcised there is literally no harm in waiting until he can make the decision, in fact, it'll turn out better because it's less likely he'll get a botched circumcision, and I'll explain that the foreskin actually isn't difficult to keep clean, and shouldn't even be pulled back for the first few years.

>>36529561
If you're circumsized you can try to bring up how badly it's affected you. I'd try something like 'Hey if your child is a boy you'll have to consider if you want them circumsized or not... etc. etc.'
Hope you can make sure her potential son isn't cut.

>>36529655
I think you're spot on. We actually had a discussion a few weeks ago about her buying a water filter because of her area's tap water concentration of hexavalent chromium, which causes like 50 in a million deaths or something per year, some really low but non-negligible number. Point is that she is willing to do everything to make her child healthier and less likely to die, so that's probably the best angle to approach.

>>36529687
I wish you the best. I have a great relationship with my parents so that won't work for me, but I hope it does for you.

>>36529687

Share with her "Elephant in the Hospital" on Youtube.

>>36529764

I wouldn't hesitate to bring up how the foreskin isn't "a little extra skin". Like, at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmToXLVrZ7c

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I WAS FUCKING IN INTENSIVE CARE FOR THE FIRST 4 MONTHS OF MY LIFE AND I WAS STILL CIRCUMCISED
WAHT
THE
FUCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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>>36524457
>do this
>bend dick

>>36530358

>The pediatrician spent hours resuscitating and assessing the injuries of a boy who had been born unable to breathe, without a pulse, and with a broken humerus and depressed skull fracture resulting from a difficult forceps delivery. He then visited the mother, whose first question was "When can he be circumcised?" [2]

>Such a sense of priorities spotlights the privileged place of male circumcision in modern America and highlights the difficulties in explaining what Edward Wallerstein has called "the uniquely American medical enigma": why routine circumcision [3] persists in the United States long after it has been abandoned in the other English-speaking countries which originally took it up. Despite statements from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists in 1971, 1975, 1978 and 1983, he noted in 1985 that the practice had abated little. [4] Even today, after further statements in 1989 and 1999, the operation is performed on well over half of all of newborns. [5]

http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=61

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>>36527787
Female circumcision has been banned in the US since 1996. Even ritual pinpricks or slits that remove no tissue are banned.

>>36529764
Fuck yes, I'm glad you like the strategy I was going for. And out of the countless reasons to not mutilate, "100+ deaths per year" is the absolute least awkward of them all to talk about. Also, massive props for protecting a potential baby robro. When he's older he'll sure as fuck thank you for the ability to experience sex the way it's meant to feel (or, at the very least, higher quality fapping.) Plus avoiding any horrific complications and/or limbic system damage.

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>>36528927
>>36529025
This makes them a lot of money.

I started restoring about 3.5 weeks ago. Starting to notice a little more skin bunching up around the glans. I'll be happy just to get the gliding motion back.

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>>36524407
>tfw roasties are allowed to hold you down and remove half of your erogenous tissue

>>36525889

You are a fucking disgusting deluded piece of shit anon. People like you are the reason why this mutilation is still "normal" in America. Thank god I'm not so braindead yet egotistical to ignore facts, for my potential sons sake. Noone should be subjected to what we were unless there is an actual medical NEED.

I'm not sure how the law varies in the US but if you are 18-19 and were circ'd without your parents consent you CAN sue the hospital you had it done in. People have done this and won a pretty penny.

>>36530886

There's even a law firm that specializes in circumcision-related cases. Look up ARCLAW.

jewmerica should be nuked

How is circumcision a bad idea?
It forces you to actually have sex with women instead of jerking off all day

thats why Jews are succesful instead of losers who jerk it to anime

>>36530886
>>36530971

Also some people have gotten settlements EVEN IF their parents consented (though not necessarily informedly) on their behalf.

>>36531015

Maybe I don't want to feel "forced" to fuck a woman I don't have a relationship with, or feel "forced" to pursue a relationship out of desperation to bust a nut. Maybe I'm not that kind of guy.

>>36531015
Do you honestly believe that? Most of the Americans on this board are probably cut.

>>36531015

25 cut kv here, that is the dumbest shit I have ever heard.

this thread made me call my mom up again just to mention it to make her feel bad again.

feels good man.

>>36531015
It has absolutely no impact on your ability to get laid. In fact many cut guys' line of thinking is "I can't feel a fucking thing, I doubt sex will be much better" and stay sexually frustrated forever.

>>36528682
rip anon, wish I had the balls to do it myself.

>>36528914
They do that to try to get investers/gain visibility.

Its clearly worked, 2013 donations averaged around 1000 dollars a month, its gone up 800% to 8000ish dollars a month

>>36524185
Finish this for me:
>When life gives them _, make lampshades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampshades_made_from_human_skin
I know they weren't real, but I need help guys.

>>36527733

> how do i cope with this?

literally why the fuck is it so bad. It is literally the most inconsequential thing.

> durr it wont be natural!

>>36531289
Well they have some shitty spokespeople then. "This technology exists and is proven to work, and there are millions of pissed off men waiting for it to happen. We can squeeze them for upwards of $10,000 a procedure, maybe much more" is all they have to say but they don't. Instead they talk about ethics and morality, or go on huge rants about why circumcision is bad instead of their plan to fix it. Their only roadmap is "lolz guess something might happen in 2019-21 if you gibs us more shekels pls pls gib pls"

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Who /restored foreskin/ here?
Took me about 3 years but it's completely worth it.
Anyone got any questions? Don't have any before/after pictures on this laptop.

>>36528917

Holy fuck are people idiots. the foreskin does not affect the quality of an orgasm. why the hell would it? it only affects the pleasure of sex leading up to orgasms, not the orgasms themselves.

>>36531423
Did you use manual methods or a device? I'm kinda hesitant about shelling out the money for a weird contraption that will raise awkward questions if someone accidentally sees, but I fondle my balls all the time when I'm on the PC so I would prefer to do it manually.

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>>36531329
You think that getting half of your erogenous tissue removed, and letting your mucosa membranes dry up and desensitize is inconsequential?

>>36531423
how much coverage did you have at the start?

>>36531443

>the foreskin does not affect the quality of an orgasm. why the hell would it?

Stimulating it can trigger penile reflexes and contractions.

Also, the type of stimulation before/during an orgasm can absolutely affect the quality of said orgasm. Haven't you ever heard of, or perhaps experienced, a "ruined orgasm"?

This is when tactile stimulation is withdrawn just before the moment of climax. What usually happens then is that the semen just spurts or dribbles out, but there is much less pleasure.

>>36531465

I'm cut and my penis looks nothing like the one on the right.

>>36531443
>>36531499

Also, some guys can experience full multiple orgasms only if they're stimulating their foreskins.

http://www.can-fap.net/preview/fundraiser_preview_multipleforegasm.shtml

>>36531499

The difference in magnitude between an orgasm and a ruined orgasm is not greater than or equal to the difference in magnitude between an orgasm cut vs uncut. This argument is essentially false equivalence, as you're equating a cut orgasm to a ruined orgasm. in reality, they are so different that they are barely worth comparing.

>>36531423
I restored mine too. It took me a little over two years. All it took was medical tape and dedication. I used cross taping and ring taping.

To anyone looking to start, this is a good resource:
https://www.reddit.com/r/foreskin_restoration/

>>36524541
humping the blanket will negatively affect your sensitivity. yuo should probably avoid doing that

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>>36531593

>The difference in magnitude between an orgasm and a ruined orgasm is not greater than or equal to the difference in magnitude between an orgasm cut vs uncut.

To my knowledge that has never been formally studied.

Anecdotally there have been multiple cases where guys who were cut as adults said their orgasms were never near as good as they used to be, and some who say they only experience anhedonic ejaculations, not orgasms anymore.

There also was a large formal study in Denmark that showed that cut guys were more likely to have difficulty reaching orgasm during intercourse.

>>36531522

Not all cuts are exactly the same.

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>>36531015
And how else would they get that valuable, healthy, infant tissue to sell.

>>36530818
Literally doesn't do anything. All you have is usless skin for shit to get clogged.
Bitch, explain to me how I'm deluded?

>>36531728
What's the reasoning behind some adults getting it done on themselves?

>>36531870

>Literally doesn't do anything.

The foreskin does a lot, anon. Not only is it the most specially innervated part of the penis with the most tactile sensitivity, but it also provides a rolling bearing to provide mechanical lubrication during masturbation, sex play, and intercourse.

It's not "extra skin". It's not even "skin" except for part of it. A lot of it is muscle and a lot of it is specialized erogenous mucosal tissue.

You've been fucking LIED TO that it was "extra skin" they took. That is factually not what happened. They stole something valuable from you and then lied to you about it.

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>>36531894
Phimosis in severe cases is treated with circumcision.

>>36531894
There's like a .0001% chance of actually needing a circumcision for medical reasons if you have extreme phimosis and can't stretch your foreskin.

Also, adults converts to Judaism.

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>>36531894

Sometimes they're having an issue with their penis, and the doctor rushes to recommend circumcision as a first-line treatment, instead of trying less extreme options first.

Some of them do it for the sake of converting to another religion.

Some like pic related do it for fetishistic reasons (circumcision fetishism is a thing).

Some do it because they got peer pressured, and really just have no idea what they're signing up for and the doctor didn't do a good job explaining it.

What do you guys do to entertain yourselves while doing foreskin restoration or stretching to deal with phimosis?

>>36531989
Go on 4chan. I stretch with my left hand and scroll with my right.

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>>36524185
>the jew stole my foreskin
I hate this
Why the fuck did they do this to me
And foreskin restoration is a fucking meme too, sure it looks uncut but it'll never feel uncut
I want to die

>>36531919

That was obvious bait, anon.

>>36532028
It brought back the mechanical gliding of the foreskin, and it restores the mucous membranes of the inner foreskin remnant and glans. It is probably not as good as it could have been, but it is a very big improvement.

>>36532028
No it won't be 100% but it does feel a fucking ton better. You'll even notice differences after the first day or two if you keep 24/7 coverage. It's completely worth it until we get actual regeneration.

>>36531457
I'd start with t-taping then go with manual stretches after a year or so if you want.
Starting just with manual stretches can be very tedious at first. Since I'm a grower, I had to grow a large amount of skin. I t-taped for 2 years and only just now got started on manual stretches and retaining (using something to hold your new skin forward overnight to maintain sensitivity+tension). If you're looking at the CI-index chart, I just hit CI-4
>>36531471
I was cut extremely tight, so none at all. I started at CI-1

>>36532176

How could you start with t-taping, if you had no skin mobility at all? what would the tape even do?

I'm just texting something hehe ...

>>36532042
Shut up

/spoilers original

>>36528914
Dude, most of it went to research. The meetings haven't taken much of the money at all. I think they released their budget somewhere.

>tfw tore my dorsal nerve trying to restore.

Careful fellow autists.

>>36525045
based shipman tbqh

>>36531355
Well the technology is there, its just in its infancy and not applied to foreskin.

>>36532275
how the fuck did you manage that?

fadsfaFUC

>>36528914
Oh, and research papers are coming out in may-june.

>>36528058
It's the definition of female privilege that a single FGM is seen as a national tragedy yet baby boys are being mutilated every second and no one gives a shit.

>>36532275

Did it heal? Give details.

Help save another anon's dick.

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>>36531015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZy5lbWb9Xg

"One could say 'Why couldn't you use a tube?'. Well you could, technically, but that's not the custom."
"A tube does not seal as well, it's not as pliable, and furthermore it's not as quick, and it's not as close."
"Also, the saliva of a human being has some antiseptic properties."

>>36528914
Oh, and they've only taken in $175,337, check their facebook. Are you trying to keep us jewed?

>>36532399
Nope, numb dick here.

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>>36528914
ftfy, you must really hate foreskin.

>>36532420

I'm terribly sorry to hear it. How did it happen?

Please keep talking about what happened to you in other threads. We need to hear possible risks/bad effects of foreskin "restoration", not just success stories.

I was circumcised but at least I'm 7+" and am restoring so it'll look pretty similar

>>36524185
TFW Allah robbed me of my nerve endings

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>>36532533
Allah has robbed many of their nerve endings.

>>36530796
normies truly are monsters.

Any Muslim anons who dislike having been cut talked to your parents about it?

Or would that be extremely taboo?

>>36532648

Question could also apply to any Jews here.

>>36532488
Got too agressive with the stretching. DTR ripped the skin. Instantly went pins and needles. Urologist says its fucked.

>>36532682

Damn, dude, that's terrible. I hope one day it can be fixed somehow with future technology.

>>36532223
The tape provided enough tension to grow the skin in the first place.
By t-taping I mean I just taped it in place with scotch tape in a + shape overnight. I did that for roughly 2 years.

>>36532648
I have a friend that has Muslim parents, and he was cut so tight that erections were very painful once puberty started. He is restoring, and he hates that he was circumcised, but he is afraid to talk with them, because he knows that if he talks with them about it he will be disowned.

>>36532784
That is what I did too. That is cross taping. I actually used to call it t taping too.

T taping is this:
http://www.restoringforeskin.org/public/foreskin-restoring-methods/t-taping

>>36532399
I think >>36532275 did his manual stretches with too much force and ended up causing permanent damage, or he did the stupid method and used weights to cause tension. Which is what LITERALLY EVERYBODY says to AVOID doing.
You have to be slow and careful with this sort of thing. That's why I said it took me like 3 years. When you think about it, you are growing a metric fuck-ton of skin back, getting the gliding function back, and growing new nerves, veins and connective tissue.

>>36530796
>>36532639
Look at that woman sticking her finger down that child's throat so that he can't scream.

>>36532794

That's really sad, man.

How many thousands, maybe tens of thousands of guys are like that all over the world? Maybe they're not speaking up because they're afraid (not that their fear is entirely unjustified).

>>36524719
lmao this

>>36524467
kill yourself you jewish cutfag. You'll never have those 2 million nerve endings back.

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>>36524314
MY DAD WASN'T CIRCUMCISED AND YET I WAS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>36525630
>>36527462

There are still nerve endings in the restored skin, it's just not as sensitive as an uncut penis.

It'll never be the same obviously, but Foregen is years away, costs thousands, and who knows if it'll work, so they is all people like me have.

>>36531423

I've been restoring since last August, so 8 months. Aside from the beginning, I don't use any tape or retain at all, I probably should. I just manually tug every day and use a 1lb weight when I don't feel like tugging. I wish my progress was faster, but I'm trudging through it because I know it'll be worth it in the long run.

>>36532794
Good for your friend though.
I used to have painful erections too. Restoring is worth it for that alone.
There's other things like gradually returning the skin color to one tone, gliding, and more sensations.

Your friend should just keep it on the DL though, honestly, I'm the same way. I've only talked about it with a friend in public once.

>>36533073

>There are still nerve endings in the restored skin, it's just not as sensitive as an uncut penis.

Not the same kinds of nerve endings. The ridged mucosa is where the Meissner's corpuscles are in force and that's virtually always removed, even in even loose circumcisions.

Also I think Foregen is expecting to start clinical trials within 3 years.

Good luck on your restoration journey though, regardless.

>>36532274
No it hasn't. Look at their spendings from 2014, only like 20% of it went to actual lab work. People got pissed and started asking questions and they never answered. There's a reason they don't openly publish them anymore.

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>>36533218
Look at their budget for that year. The other stuff was fairly cheap, if you get the average amount of money spent per month, instead of at the end of the month. If they did it today, in 2017, with the large amount of money they receive today, it would look much, much different.

>>36533345
*end of the year, not month, whoops)

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>>36533197

>Also I think Foregen is expecting to start clinical trials within 3 years.

But I thought I heard that they're not even sure if the regrown foreskin will have any feeling/sensation. I'm sounding stupid, but I don't know how else to describe it.

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>>36524467
Keep telling yourself that lol
Many such cases in America. Sad!

>>36533485
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lab-grown-vaginas-implanted-successfully-in-4-teenagers/

This works, why not foreskin?

>>36533485

Where did you hear that? I don't think it's the case.

They're on reddit, maybe you could ask them (yeah it sucks to have to make an account but their board is very active).

>>36524185
Why is this even debate

Do cutfags legitimately argue their penis is better?

Literally an uncutfag can get cut whenever but you cant get your skin back ever, like why is this even debate that point there shatters any cutfag credibility lol

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>>36533707

Cut guys are either fighting against what was done to them (for the sake of protecting children), or they're fighting against children (for the sake of protecting what was done to them).

>>36532416

$175K is really not that much money for an organization. Especially considering the current year.

>>36533765
>Cut off part of my son's manhood
>So he'll be less of a pussy

The eternal boomer strikes again.

>>36533765
>not knowing it makes you into a pussy

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201501/circumcision-s-psychological-damage

>>36524185
>tfw American
>tfw you're not so pathetic that you obsess over muh nerve endings in muh benis

this is why you're getting invaded by muslims

>>36533931
Muslims that are spreading circumcision.

>>36533931

If the guy who circumcised you had cut more severely, or if your dick had grown more when you were in puberty, your circumcision would be tighter. You might not even be able to sleep through the night without nocturnal erections yanking at the remaining skin.

It's simply a matter of luck that you weren't cut so tight that it affected every aspect of your life, not just sex.

Can anyone tell me how they are restoring? I just started and I've been doing manual Method 2 for a bit and cross taping during the day while stretching the skin as much as possible

>>36533931
>tfw American
>tfw based European dad refused to let them chop up my dink
>tfw don't have to live life in denial or be bitter and resent my parents - the only two choices cutfags have
>tfw normal dick

Feels breddy gud tb honest

>>36535327
Yeah, that's a good way to keep at it desu.
cross tape whenever you can, remember to take breaks from stretching if it gets too tender or sore.

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>>36535611

>Tfw cut tight

>>36535633
Alright... All I got for now and it has been... Like 10 days... More or less and my skin has gotten more mobile and stuff for now so that's an advantage since now I don't have to rub my head like it's some doorknob to get off
Hopefully ov

>my mother got me circumcised at three years old
>penis stopped growing afterward

I need to kill myself.

>>36531329
Your private parts were chopped up so its sensitive skin could be mashed into a skin cream. How is that not an issue?

>>36536163
You can't argue with those kinds of cutfags. The denial is too thick