Why is metal considered autistic?

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Friendo, I've listened to metal since I was 8 and I can tell you it is without a doubt the dorkiest, most autistic and nerdiest genre of music there is.

the slavish devotion to learning scales and arpeggios in every key just so you can play them really fast

>>36468750

> autismo
> metalhead
> both social outcasts

"Why is metal considered autistic?" he asks, posting a picture of a barbarian knight fighting a dragon.

>>36468789
That's present in a relatively small number of bands and not representative to the whole genre.

Regardless it's still dork music for dorks

It is because i listen to it

Metal is autistic as fuck but I love it.
In fact, most metal that isn't autistic (like artsy hipster bullshit like Deafheaven) is usually shit.

What about extreme metal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bdCOT6oKd8

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>>36468750
Extremely technical and thematically it's all scifi/fantasy.
It is THE dork genre.
And I love it.

It's literally special snowflake: the genre
>man I'm so dark no one can understand me

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>>36468750
i love metal
specially titanium

>>36468900
I've legitimately started referring to screaming and growling as Autistic Screeching

take that as you will

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>>36468900
It kinda is... singing about abortions and the infamous "Fuck your Dog" is pretty wanabee edgy. I listen to metal btw so don't get super offensive
>>36468899
Deafheaven is post-black right? I don't see why everyone hates it so much...

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>>36468827
>he doesnt like vikings
fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfxo4i_gBC0

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Pure instrumental may be the most autistic in all the genre, but I love it nonetheless.

>>36468750
Maybe because its themes of death and revenge appeal mainly to the teenage crowd who are incapable of expressing their emotions in any other way than screaming. Further more, the "clientele" of mental look ridiculous as fuck. These are young men who think it's "cool" to have shoulder-length+ hair and wear chains around their pants. Bonus points if this pathetic display continues into their 20s.

In short, you gotta grow up sometimes, but these "men" didn't get the memo.

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>>36468827
>barbarian knight
>barbarian
>knight
its like he doesn't know that the knight is actually a concept descended from roman military thought

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrELKHNM4Q
GURHIRHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HRBBREEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEBHGRHRIIIUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHH

>>36468941
Not all is scifi/fantasy; pornogrind?DSBM?goregrind?nu metal/metalcore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSB6lqgM4wY
BREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Because post-modern culture rejects the very notion of sincerity.

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>>36469089
id like this if it werent for the 3 minute long belch

>>36469104
Nu metal is political or horror. Sort of orwellian. Go through the whole of Vulgar Display of Power and you'll see what I mean.

No idea what the rest of those are but show me a track and I'll point to a book.

>>36468984
>gory lyrics are wanabee edgy
>I listen to metal
Hmm ok.

>>36469036
Those ones that influenced by fusion are not so autistic in my view. They are rather snobbish so to speak.

>>36469153
yes ok nigger, we agree those are lame
you can stop the circle jerk


dont you have some mumford and sons to listen to fag

>>36468750
Because normies only listen to R&B/rap (I don't know the difference) and consider anything else except for the possible exception of pop to be for weirdos.

>>36469147
Pantera isn't Nu Metal, they were basically the first groove band. Alot of Nu Metal is daddy issues aka Korn
DSBM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT7ttd7BNBs
Porno/Goregrind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e99JQxs8iQ
Metalcore is just your generic modern metal band with lots of breakdowns; quite emo-y lyrics majoritly

>>36469260
my dad like fucking awful bands like this one called
hunt the dinosaur
what the fuck does that even mean? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL-P48WApkM listen to this fucking bologna

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>>36469420
eww, it's a chris brown cover wtf.... It's OK i guess...

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>>36469033
Vikings were cowardly faggots who got their ass kicked almost any time they went up against actual fighters.

>>36469486
he said this is the most badass shit on the planet and showed me that song...

There is a music board >>>/mu/ 4 u

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>>36469550
Go make fun of him and hope he doesn't beat the shit out of you

>>36469260
It's all lovecraftian senpai. It's all expressing the bleak inconsequence of human life against the backdrop of meat violence or cosmic entropy.
I really need to find more cosmic horror authors cause afaik it hasn't been done good since.
I might even have to start writing it.

I like it more when it's just done thrash style with the whole neoclassical scales https://youtu.be/4cbXrTxsRu4

>>36469420
This is pretty funny.
I know a guy who keeps linking me stoner metal and THAT stuff is bad.

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>>36469575
GET BACK TO YOUR CONTAINMENT BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I like metal but I don't know why I despise anyone else who listens to it.

>>36469594
>cosmic horror authors
idrk what you mean but cosmic black metal is good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sifG0AxnT10
i cant really stand the singing in that song you linked desu
>I know a guy who keeps linking me stoner metal and THAT stuff is bad.
BRUH Sleep is one of the few decent ones; Stoned Jesus old shit is pretty good too

>>36469550
It doesn't even sound that "badass". It's just slow tuneless chugging and generic growling

If he were going to choose a deathcore band as "The most badass shit on the planet", he could have at least chosen a decent one like Lorelei or Within the Ruins

>>36469616

This. Love metal, but really dislike 95% of metalheads. About as bad as hiphopheads or classicalfags.

>>36469676
Cmon not even the
>AVATAR
>OF WHAT WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE
part?

It grows on you.
Metallica was writing songs about this stuff in the 80s, that's how hard it's stuck in the metal collective consciousness.

>>36469722
Id just consider Deathcore as a gateway into Grind desu, was for me anyway.
Not as good as new WhiteChapel hurhurhurhurhur
>>36469741
I can agree i find it really retarded when people in the audience headbang, if you're at the front where most do fine go ahead but i hate being flicked in the face by other people's greasy hair
>>36469760
I couldn't even, it just sounds like he's talking along with the music
>Metallica was writing songs about this stuff in the 80s
why i dont listen to much "neo-classical" type stuff; it's already been done
>It grows on you.
Most music takes me a while to properly enjoy so probly will

>>36468750
>Why is metal considered autistic?

I don't even know what this means, and I've never heard anybody claim that.

>>36469834
Go read the lovecraft books and see how FFFFUCKING METAL they are.

I always enjoyed metal but I stumbled across the books by accident, and it's the most metal shit I've ever read.

Mountains of Madness and Charles Dexter Ward are my picks.

As someone who compliments his listening to metal with other forms of music, to me metal is the epitome of what popular music has to offer as a genre from a sheer musical perspective.

A constantly changing aesthetic aside, the two most common values of popular music that it has over other forms of music are 1. the hooks which are melodies made to be repeated a few times rather than transition the way art music or jazz does and 2. a level of visceral intensity not offered in other forms of music (as was first exemplified by the song Roll Over Beethoven by Chuck Berry.)

The metal genre, particularly in its more extreme format offers both of these put together in spades. Rather than punk music/rock n roll which just focuses on the visceral or really other forms of popular music that focus on hook melodies, metal focuses on both. It achieves this through riffs which are melodies with a heavy visceral bent achieved through lots of fast chord playing, distortion, erratic rhythm sections, etc.

In order to optimize these unique aspects of popular music, the best metal tends to have song structure akin to a sonata form which starts of seemingly sounding like a verse chorus structure but then turns into a straight up riff attack. What's interesting to notice here often is that unlike say...a lot of other typical popular music like anything on the radio or a song like King Crimson's 20th Century Schizoid Man, there's no verse section where the music "calms" down as in it doesn't play a hook and resorts to usually some kind of more static two/three chord progression. The best of the metal genre is all visceral hooks (riffs) all the time.

Metal can also deliver this in various tempos as well ranging from lower tempo stuff like Eyehategod to something midtempo like Judas Priest to something really fast like Morbid Angel.

It's a genre that can feel hard to get, but ultimately rewarding in what it does.

>>36468750
Cuz it's nnoise

>>36469936
same
>>36469923
ohhh, H.P. Lovecraft, i get ya. He wrote the Call of Cthulhu or whatever, right? And that one about the weird incest twins?

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>>36470065
>>36469923
Also watch Varg's video on his influences for Burzum, RPGs and LotR were his major ones, you can really hear it in his music imo

>>36469834
Oddly, I went from deathcore to tech death and prog. After I got into the more tech/prog-oriented deathcore bands like Fallujah, Within the Ruins, Veil of Maya, The Faceless, etc, I started feeling bored by most deathcore and began gravitating pretty much in the direction of prog and tech death. Never could get too much into grind, save for a few of the more technical bands like Cephalic Carnage and Cattle Decapitation.

>>36468968
op's album is literally about dragons and enchanted swords and heroes and shit

>>36468750
It's just a 4chan meme, i kmow many metalheads and they're complete normies.
4chan is a lot more judging than normies tbqh, everything here is "cringy" and "austistic" when normies don't really care.

>>36470065
That's right.
Guy pretty much single handedly made cosmic horror a genre by describing eldritch beasts that hide in the dark gaps behind the stars.

There's this really good one about a guy who gets contacted by ancient aliens and volunteers to mindswap with one for a few thousand years. I forget the name of it.

>>36470143
this irony

>>36468750
the one you posted is powermetal and is more like chunni or 8th grade school fanbase oriented. we are in the age of atmoshit or atmospheric bm focused on nu-males

>>36470158
Was he not a 20th century writer? Pretty creative and ahead of his time ideas-wise i have to say

>>36470197
>Atmospheric bm focused on nu-males
can you give some examples?

>>36470243
Deafheaven
Wolves in The Throne Room

>>36470197
Atmospheric black metal is nowhere near at the forefront of what's being created in metal, let alone the only metal being created. You know /metal/ is basically a colossal rectum to shove your head up in, right? Some posters there may be snug and comfortable in it, but at least they recognize it as a rectum.

>>36470243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ZVkESecXk&t=460s
Best atmospheric Black Metal imo, DeafHeaven is post-black so doesn't really count