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>I Let My Daughter Transition at 4 Years Old - And Have Z

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>I Let My Daughter Transition at 4 Years Old - And Have Zero Regrets Today

http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/parenting/a43702/transgender-child-kimberly-shappley/
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>>36349737
>tfw this little girl will now end up killing herself in the future
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>>36349737
i gave up on normies

people like this shouldn't have kids
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>I have zero regret
You will once your "daughter" commits suicide because her baby clock keeps ticking and she can't find a man to love her fucked up body
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>guys (male) in the future will always have to ask girls weather they are a girl (female) or a girl (male) before they date them
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OP here, I'm not an expert on childhood neuroscience and the stages of mental development and all that.

However, at 18 month-4 years, aren't you still learning to recognize the different shapes and colors in the world and shitting your pants and thinking that monsters are real?

That seems a touch early to be drawing a line in the sand and declaring yourself a girl when you don't even know what that is.

He could just be a really really gay flamboyant boy, as a lot of these cases are.

The mom needs to learn to say no, or to at the very least not go full tumblr on him.
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>>36349896
I used to write copypasta making fun of a faraway dystopian tranny future, for /b/ and /r9k/ back when the robot was offline, and now most of what I wrote pales in comparsion to what the very real near future will bring us.
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>>36349929
ugh could you like not? stop being so problematic you transphobic shitlord.
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>>36349737
>child irreversibly transitions to a different gender at 4 years old
>wow so brave amazing you should be proud

>child willingly engages in brief sexual contact with another person at 8 years old
>fucking disgusting how could this happen to that poor little innocent angel ;_; think of the children!!!
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>>36349737
this is like some next level human experimentation
>i wonder what would happen if we made a toddler boy into a girl
>oops cant do that probably human rights violation since kids cant make that kind of decision for themselves in any way
>oh nice a leftist parent who looked into some random habits and jumped the gun

im calling teenage suicide, i'll put $20 down
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>>36350092
>irreversibly
the boy literally just wears girls clothing.
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>>36350214
but then why does that mean he's a girl?

When months-old girls wear pants, do their mother label them as boys?
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>>36350469
>you're not trans before you transition
>you're a girl because you're wearing a dress

neck yourself you fucking dweeb
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>>36350051
I literally, literally can't right now
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>>36350005
Post some of your stories anon?
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>>36350598
There's no need to be hostile now, look at what I said earlier

>>36349929
>That seems a touch early to be drawing a line in the sand and declaring yourself a girl when you don't even know what that is.

Rather, have your mom declare you to be a girl, rather than a boy going through a girly phase.
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>>36349929
at 18 months old you just learned that that guy in the mirror is you. at 4 years old you just learned that people have perspectives different from your own
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>Using superficial characteristics like hair and clothing to define gender
>Letting a 3.5 year old boy fuck up their life before their brain is capable of understanding the repercussions of their actions

Really gets the ol' noggin' joggin'.
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>>36350783
you just revealed yourself to be a pedophile.
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>ask my mom if I can be a girl at 4 years old
>she hits me
>say I feel like I want to be a girl at 11 years old
>she hits me
>say it's not a phase and I want to do something about my life at 15
>kicked out

I'm so God Damned envious
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This is literally the fucking fault of institutionalized misandry.

>durr let's create a society where you have to be a meek and polite neuter who went to engineering school in order to get a job at the ipad factory and if you step out of line even a fraction of a centimeter police in flying power armor beat you to death and take your corpse off to be raped by the Vibrancy
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>>36349840
she's biologically male though. she has no baby clock to begin with.
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>>36350735
sure, hopefully it passes the filter

>2035
>be me
>be natural sciences teacher to 2nd graders
>on my way to work & catching up on this morning's Holonews
>As I pass the city's third Caytlin Jenner War Hero Memorial Square, I hear/read/smell about how President Walmart (Freedomist) retained their incumbency again Senator Facebook (Independentarian)
>I inject myself with Happyquil to prevent any intrusive political opinions stemming from this news, and briefly overhear/sniff something about Robin Williams being posthumously stripped of his nationality for his humyn rights-violating "Ms Doubtfire" movie, I finally make my way to work.
>A fellow work-friend greets me with "Logical Morning, Anon!"
>"Reason be with you!" I reply, as I tip them one of my hats.
>I make my way to the classroom as I look over the Government of Edutainment's recent updates to my curriculum
>"Any references to s-word in any flora or fauna is hereby illegal. Discussion of chromosomes are still under review"
>I inject myself with another dose of Happyquil as the assistant ForkliftBot loads the children into their Learn-O-Pods
>After the school bell rings, which consists of a mix of today's top 40 songs, class begins.
>"Okay children, where did we leave off... right so flowers from plants have male and f-NO! WAIT!"
>Several children start having seizures as most if not all of them immediately defecate and vomit themselves, a few are put on the Learn-O-Pod's life's support as the shock is too much for them to handle
>The classroom's blast doors are sealed shut as the ForkliftBot pins me down. A 50-mile Trigger Warning Alert radius is in full effect.
>Soon enough, a squad of Freedom Fighters come by, inject me with Whole Foods-brand Insta-Estrogen and escort me out of the containment zone.
>I write this from the Bailey Jay Re-Edutainment & iPod Manufacturing Fun Camp time-internet during my sleep minutes, in the hopes that you check your privilege before it's too late.
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>>36350145
>>i wonder what would happen if we made a toddler boy into a girl

actually, it already happened

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
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>>36350860
Kill yourself

>>>/lgbt/

Originally of course
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>>36349929
Gender identity develops before anything else. You don't have to LEARN that you're a boy, you know it. It typically develops between age 2-5, this is typically when transsexuals first express their feelings of being trans because they developed the incorrect gender identity

>>36350955
One of the biggest examples on how innate gender identity is.You can't force a boy to be a girl.
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This boy is gonna reconsider it when he ends up being 6'4 with a thick beard he needs to shave every day.
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>>36350955
>Reimer said that Dr. Money forced the twins to rehearse sexual acts involving "thrusting movements", with David playing the bottom role. Reimer said that, as a child, he had to get "down on all fours" with his brother, Brian Reimer, "up behind his butt" with "his crotch against" his "buttocks". Reimer said that Dr. Money forced David, in another sexual position, to have his "legs spread" with Brian on top. Reimer said that Dr. Money also forced the children to take their "clothes off" and engage in "genital inspections". On at "least one occasion", Reimer said that Dr. Money took a photograph of the two children doing these activities. Dr. Money's rationale for these various treatments was his belief that "childhood 'sexual rehearsal play'" was important for a "healthy adult gender identity".
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>>36351038
Estrogen has been shown to reduce growth, so as long as she gets on it soon enough she should end up within female ranges
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>>36350145
>>36349929
>>36350783
Did you guys even read the article?
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>>36351038
>implying his mom won't give him his "special medicine" before puberty starts knocking on the door.
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>>36351078
>within female ranges

female != benis

you make child abuse sound so politically-correct.
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>>36351142
It's far more cruel and abusive to force transsexuals to repress their innate needs
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>>36350991
LGBT can be on /r9k/ as long as they don't spam trap threads
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>>36349929
If you tell a little boy that he can't play with a certain toy he likes because it's for girls of course he's gonna say he's a girl.
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>>36351142
True the penis is male, but her appearance when not naked should be great when starting so young.

Also I wouldn't call it child abuse if the kid made the decision. Sure the parents have to say yes, but its better than having a kid suicide in their 20s after being eternally afraid of their parents reactions.
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>>36351009
A large majority of trannies were sexually abused as toddlers/young children.

Do you treat their gender dysphoria? Or just feed into it, knowing it will cause them a lifetime worth of struggle and rejection.

>>36351078
How can you fucking make the decision when you aren't even old enough to drive a fucking car.

You aren't even old enough to fucking stay out past 9pm

You can't make life decisions like that for a child who doesn't fucking know any better.

It's fucking child abuse, and if I knew anyone who was doing that to their kid personally, id make sure I'd get them taken away by protective services one way or another.
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>>36351159
>It's far more cruel and abusive to force cutters to repress their innate needs
>It's far more cruel and abusive to force obese people to repress their innate needs
>It's far more cruel and abusive to force anorexics to repress their innate needs
>It's far more cruel and abusive to force bulemics to repress their innate needs
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>>36351038
Testosterone inhibitors/early orchiectomy combined with estrogen at sensible levels prevent that happening

t. tranny
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>>36351197
>A large majority of trannies were sexually abused as toddlers/young children.
If they're trans this has nothing to do with their being trans. I also don't believe that a large MAJORITY of trans people have had sexual abuse. Where are you getting this from?

>>36351213
Cutters, obese, anorexics, bulemics all do these things because of underlying problems, typically bad coping mechanisms for personal problems.

Transsexuals are people born with neurology hardwired to be the opposite sex from birth. It's a birth defect, an intersex condition of the brain. Of course most people who claim to be trans are actually confused.
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>>36351195
>the kid made the decision

>children can't vote
>children can drive
>children can't drive
>children can't work a job
>children can't get tattoos
>rightfully so because children are stupid since they haven't mentally developed yet

>children can and should make irreversible life-changing decisions about their bodies based on a feeling and societal construct.
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>>36351266
>neurology hardwired

so are people with any other inherited mental problems.

The difference is you don't give a loaded gun to a person who hears voices.
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>>36351266
http://www.lambdalegal.org/sites/default/files/gdtb_2013_20_youth_risk_data.pdf

Might not be a majority, but clearly there's a fucking pattern.

When someone loses their job and wife, you treat their depression, you don't call them a failure, and tell them to live with it.
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>>36351038
He's gonna reconsider it when puberty blockers give him a permanently infantile penis that's too small to be inverted into a tranny vag
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>>36351316
This is how medical problems are treated

>find the problem
>attempt to understand the problem
>administer the BEST solution to the problem
Best solution does not mean cure, many problems cannot be cured. Best solution for transsexuals involves lowering the chance of suicide and increasing quality of life.

A person who hears disruptive voices will have a low quality of life. Encouraging them to listen to those voices and do what they say will almost surely lead to an even worse outcome for the person.

A transsexual who is hardwired to need to be seen as the opposite sex and see themselves as the opposite sex is not hurt by the administering of HRT or the acceptance of their peers. This actually gives them the best chance to have a happy life and not kill themselves. Seeing their body change to be closer to how they want it increases their quality of life. Being accepted by others the way they want to be accepted increases their quality of life. This is the only treatment that has been demonstrated to be effective on a wide scale. No other treatment is known. If a better treatment existed, it would be advocated.
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>>36350947
trying too hard, honestly. the best one i've read of these was the one with the privilege peanuts and the feels shield
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>>36351359
Have you considered the possibility that they're not trans because they're abused, but by being trans they are more likely to be abused?

A confused and troubled child explaining to a trusted adult how they feel they're "really a girl inside" provides an easy scenario for a predator to take advantage of them
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>tfw no qt3.14 trapbois went to your middle/high school
Feels bad desu
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>>36351412
But here's the problem you see

you can transition at 4 years old, you can transition at 44 years old, in both cases or any age between or before or after you will always remain the sex you were born as.

You won't be a woman, you'll be trans.


At least fucking wait a few years until a kid is aware enough and old enough to make such drastic choices. The "block puberty so he'll look cuter as a trans argument is pointless. A tranny is a tranny. A woman is a woman, and a man is a man.
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>>36351570
You should transition as soon as it would improve your life. Like you said it doesn't matter if you're 4 or 44, and like you said if you're trans you're trans.
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>>36349780
I doubt it. "She" will be able to start HRT before puberty even starts. This is the golden age for trapfags.
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>>36351591
but trans people want to be the other sex.

They don't want to be trannies.

If anything that is ruining your life because you've moved way past the PNR in case you ever have a moment of enlightenment and realize that you were better off as your original sex.


If gender is a social construct then just call yourself whatever gender you want, there's literally no need to turn your penis inside-out or your vagina outside-in and poison yourself with hormones.
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>>36351072
Every single day we drift further from God's light.

We all deserve to die painfully by pestilence and fire, and to suffer for all eternity for our sins.
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remember americans all circumcse boys too, do not overestimate them
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>>36351591
Not him, but wanted to interject
Shouldn't we look for what causes the mindset of "I'm not what my genes made me, I'm an X" and try to fix/cure it? You can't change your genes after you're born.
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>>36349896
It's pretty easy to tell a tranny IRL. They're only somewhat passable in still shots due to camera magic
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>>36351655
>realize that you were better off as your original sex.

You're attempting to rationalize irrational feelings

A transsexual will fit into society better if they do not transition.
A transsexual will have a better relationship with their family if they do not transition.
A transsexual will have a better time getting a job and housing if they do not transition.
A transsexual will have a better time getting into a relationship if they do not transition.

A transsexual is dramatically more likely to kill themselves if they do not transition. The benefits of not transitioning to not outweigh the benefits of transitioning. Transitioning tends to lead transsexuals into a shitty life where suicide is still expected to have a high chance of happening. But for transsexuals, legitimate ones, not transitioning is far, far worse than this.
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>>36351474
how does that provide an easy scenario? explain please. is it like "if you're really a girl then that means you have to suck my penis, that's what girls do!" ?
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>>36351688
Of course we should. But who's going to fund it?
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>>36351732
The parents? Charities?
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>>36351445
>trying too hard

senpai, 10 years ago this whole "xi/zi/zwei are my pronouns" nonsense never existed. In 5 years it'll likely be a hate to even refer to anyone as a boy or a girl as to not offend the genderfluid humyns.
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>>36351078
>>36351104
>>36351264
Boo hoo I'm a sexually confused retard, pls give me govt subsidised hormones ;_;
>here you are xir!
Man, I could really use some tren and hgh for bulking up, I've hit my natty plateau in the gym.
>arrest this criminal scum! How dare you take steroids you felon
Really makes you think...
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>>36351731
I'm a transsexual who was abused and that was basically exactly what happened to me.

I was caught crossdressing as a kid. I confessed my feelings to the family member that caught me, crying my eyes out because of deep shame and self-hatred. They told me it was ok for me to feel that way, which made me unbelievably happy and relieved, for the first time in my life I felt like it was ok for me to be this way. Then they started buying me girl's clothes for me to wear and said it was our secret. Then they started introducing things like "Don't you want to know what's like to really be a girl" and other things like that. I was molested many times. When I said it didn't feel right or that I didn't want to do it or that they were hurting me, they threatened to expose my feelings of wanting to be a girl.

Being trans directly caused my abuse. And no I don't feel any sexual feelings towards kids, I didn't catch the pedo virus, it fucked me up in other ways.
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>>36351826
Stay strong, its hard to be trains
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>>36351691
>It's pretty easy to tell a tranny IRL
today. lets see how this goes in 2040.
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I can't wait until being trans-ethnic is finally accepted.

That American lady was hissed and booed and shamed because she was white and pretended to be black, the same year as Catelyn Jenner.

If I identify as Japanese, or any other race, I have every right to get surgery that makes me look as close as possible as them, as well as dual citizenship
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>>36351901
As more evidence comes to show how being trans is biologically driven, transracial bullshit will be squashed and people like you will be forced to make up something else to discredit trans people
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>>36351686
This is true. It says a lot about how twisted this country is when even the "conservative" are still sexual perverts and Zionists who mutilate newborns.

This place is a fucking trash heap.
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>>36351929
>Implying that there isn't a difference in grey matter between the trans-ethnic and the cis-ethnic.

Please don't be problematic, you could use more inter-sectional allies.
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>>36351970
The Ayatollah Khomeini used in 1979 the term "Great Satan" when speaking of the United States. I think we are only now beginning to realize just how accurate that description was.
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>>36351691
How would you know, you only see the ones that are in the border or can't pass.
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>>36352549
>giving a shit what a muslim thinks
Don't get me wrong this place is evil but who does a mudshit think he is to criticize anyone
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