ITT we write about anything and let the autism flow: Be it passion, interest, vidya, notions, feels, views, anything goes. Just write.
There are so many pitfalls in being man, to being human. We strive for freedom of self but there are so many layers of it, each one deceiving to make you feel like it is freedom, from political and monetary to the ego we seek just to be and to let go, to accept, but I say accept with no notions behind it other than what the word encapsulates in the very instant of now.
We are nature in the form of man, and we have the virtue of reason, we see the shadows of freedom and justice in the distance: So many are hindered by facets of being and the vices of man, where we let our reason be clouded by animalistic urges and thought, of lust, desire, greed, ego, etc. And even beyond this when a man stays true to his virtue of reason, follows his ethics and morals from himself and divinity something can still gnaw at him such as existentialist dread, removing him from the present. Is it not in ourselves and nature to seize the virtue of reason, and use this single virtue to lead us first in the form of mindfulness as the Buddhist teach and being in the moment as the Daoist, and being aware of all as the Hindu, and knowing your path ahead with sturdiness and comfort with each step, completely aware and unhindered as you move forward, shedding the fault of finding faults, of doubt, thus being in just what is letting paths be open to you, and you guide yourself through life by both being influenced by it and influencing it accordingly?
>>36316253
At the stage I see, of no-reason coming after reason, after shedding the contrived notions and ideals we have had, of overcoming our monsters and ourselves, so one can say "I am man" with no ego, to say "I am" and know he is not at the same time, for everything is and there's no separation of value, only point of view. To see that the rock has no higher virtue for being a rock than you a man, and being able to go on with being a man. But does this knowledge of this interfere and even contradict itself, for we say it and think it, but the rock does not, but we have the virtue of reason, that is the thought and voice, and is of us, as is of the rock to be hard and dense.
So then what is there after this, the path of 'being' as is with ultimate freedom of being? It has to be mindfulness, and keep in mind that you are, and that you are human. Keeping the lesser forms at bay, doing away with them completely, and see reason, morals and ethics in front of you, true virtue of reason will read to true justice. So at this height one dips back into being a man, of being of society for he is not separate from it, just now does not have what his vices had at stake clouding his life. One lives presently and directly, of acceptance and hollding no pre-concieved views, of grasping any substance fully and whole so to embrace it before he can let it go and have his thoughts, with his wisdom to be the guide of what to take at what priority. Then to act accordingly to the found senses unto man, to know that life is all and be all, as a whole, to be seperate from life like a play in front of you which you can join in at any time, will end at one point, and are free to leave and come as you will.
I posted this on another thread but it died and I got no (you)s, so I'll post it here instead.
Material reality is the lowest pit of hell, an unending nightmare of creation, but trying to get to some 'higher reality' is a fuck load of shit and is never going to happen. What we need is to go lower, deeper. If this is the bottom of the pit, we must dig further and make a new floor on which we can stand firm. Descend into an even lower unreality, detatch ourselves from this material hell and shove our minds into a conceptual paradise of our own design. In such a world we would be the higher beings, descending from a condemned upper hell to preside over a new paradise. We would each become a demiurge, and from the depths of lower conceptual submaterial we would raise new wonders and make better worlds than that from which we came. This is the only path we can reasonably pursue. We cannot fix this world and we cannot ascend to a higher one, and there is no reason to believe a higher one would be better anyway. But we can and we must descend. It is our manifest destiny, humanity's forbidden desire. Since the dawn of time we have grasped for it, telling stories of heroes or envisioning worlds of fantasy, giving in to the allure of unreality. Why do we deny it? Why do we reject our only hope? We walk the path anyway, and the gate is getting closer. We will soon be there, at the edge of the unknown; that is, on the verge of leaving the unknown behind and entering into perfect knowledge. We must be willing to take the final step.
We must become anime.
>>36316600
The fault of that and even what I (OP) say is that is all an ideal. Idealism fails us the most , so many philosophers speak of the ideal nation, society, justice, self, man but none say how to put it in practice so we don't achieve. What I plead for is first for man to look into himself and he will see all, the ideal of this is if every man does it, but the hopefulness that day by day more and more find the 'higher'' meaning in being.
bumpinng with a bump
post you faggots, quit being lazy and apprehensive
>>36316777
Introspection won't fix anything. We've been seeking 'higher meaning' since the Axial Age and it's done nothing for us. Maybe if everyone did it but that's not happening. The normie masses will always be what they are, and really the robots are just as bad. There will always be war, starvation, murder, rape, disease, depression, every kind of violation and enslavement. Civilization can mitigate these things, but never really put them to an end. Not so long as we are bound in this reality. We cannot get to some gnostic super heaven either. We need to create our own paradise, but we cannot do it in this world. We can only do it in a fictional world, but we cannot truly enter those worlds due to our entrapment within physical bodies. What we need to do is find a way to immerse ourselves completely in fiction, without becoming fictional ourselves. Not just books and movies though, but fictive realities more more profound and detailed than any before. We can become gods presiding over heaven dreams.
I don't know how to go about it. We would still need to manage things in physical reality, in order to maintain the new world. Maybe have robots take care of everything while we all hook up our brains into simulation machines.
>>36317130
That's a grim thought. My reasoning is that there is that higher form and higher meaning, many said it in their different ways and is at the core of us, religion being a shadow of it in my view. That it takes a domino effect of people self-realising and detaching so to live fully. The path you talk of is one of restraint and delusion, it's pointless to the point death is a better alternative, while accepting and being is the higher form of being than what makes man almost always stumble and fall short.
>>36317268
These kind of ideals only work for a tiny minority of perfectly adjusted and mentally powerful people, which most people aren't and never will be. What I'm suggesting should prevent that minority from doing what they do, they can leave if they want. But the rest of us need bread and circuses. The ultimate bread and the circus of unending perfect creation.
Fiction is the light. Unreality is the highest ideal. Let's reject our material hell chains and escape into the depths where God cannot find us.
>>36316253
Bumppppppp bc better than repeated cancer of this board. I'll try n write something
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>>36317461
The material chains can be rejected with the higher form of being, and in this form one accepts reality and man, there is no disdain for him so to think its a mercy to let him live in delusion, as if knowing what's best for him when ones own path is best for him, as he stays true to himself.
You are thinking of man as a whole, I am seeing man singularly as a whole. I agree and accept the issues of not everyone being able to have the same mental fortitude to achieve and overcome instantly and all at once, but it's within our capacity to with the right guides. To enslave slaves is what's already being done today, but the corrupt of the slaves reach the top while the man in the moment sees, understands and lets be, offering what he can to whom he can, and few of the greats become influential. But with the growth of numbers of men overcoming themselves there will be an is an increasing variety of them each heading down their path, and among them greats will bee to share with the rest of man, for that will be his path, his life. I think this is achievable as an individual and collective effortless and unplanned effort.
another bump for justice and robots
>>36317268
>>36317650
tfw you've been trying to reach that point for 9 years
Life is terrible. Life is great. There are a multitude of moments through which we experience and perceive the world. These perceptions may vary greatly from the belief that the universe is out to get the individual to the belief that it is simple fate or perhaps a higher power that deigns such events to occur in the way they do. But what if it could be both things? The differing perceptions of all these events is in fact the truth. That truth is indeed the only thing worth striving for. The good and the bad, and the rest in the middle make up the one essential truth that is always there. Neither view of an event or occurrence is necessarily true, yet by virtue of simply being these things become that indisputable truth. While it may prove beneficial at times to argue for one stance or another as each likely has its' own respective effects that is not the main point. The main point is that individuals should understand and accept this truthful reality while knowing they can never reach that final level of objectivity on account of their own inherent biases and beliefs that are innately a part of them. To accept that the individual will forever be striving for this truth is the experience of life itself. The experiencing of interchangeable perceptions is simply a part of life; to fight against it is only a sure way towards despair.
I'll try n respond but i gotta go work, great thread idea op
>>36317650
You're too idealistic. We're never going to become a bunch of enlightened supermen, not unless we actually stop being human. We need another path, we need to escape. A slave in chains doesn't stop being a slave in chains just because he decides to be at peace with being a slave. We're slaves so long as we are subject to a material world. We have to escape. Unless we can drill a hole into another dimension, fiction is our best hope.
>>36318085
>The experiencing of interchangeable perceptions is simply a part of life; to fight against it is only a sure way towards despair.
You hit thee nail on the head with the whole post, and great closing line.
Stagnation kills us, resistance misleads us. Embrace and overcoming oneself and what is, is the true freedom.
>>36316253
Going to the DMV gives one the most fair slice of the American public to be found anywhere. I can't help some feeling between disgust, contempt, and sadness when I look on their miserable mediocrity; the very definition of waiting to die, and that's just normalcy, really.
Blog faggotry ahead
Speaking of sadness, I believe I've recently discovered natural morality, and where it can be separated from conditioned fear of punishment: Genuine remorse is a feeling of sadness, not of anxiety. I discovered this in myself, and now I'm getting pre-emptive remorse every time I think of the ambitions I used to pine for. I don't know what to do with myself; I hate my lot in life, but the others arouse this implacable sadness I can't seem to route out. The DMV also drives the point home that most people really are tragically emptyheaded. I want to hate them; things would be so much simpler and easier if I did, but I still see myself in them. I see myself in everybody.
I've come to believe that anger is frustration paired with a feeling that one can free themselves from what frustrates them. The only reason I tolerate this life is that I have learned helplessness, but every baby-step of teaching myself otherwise is a long, muddy uphill battle. I think the friendlessness hurts things, but I'm not sure how exactly
>>36318370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMPzDiraNnA
>>36316253
probably aren't inviting questions but why is reason a "virtue" and why are animalistic urges to be suppressed in sight of moral limitations?
how can you "just be in the moment" and live mindfully if you are always fighting your inner desires and contradictions in your character, trying to live up to some artificially constructed concept of what you should be?
you say you want freedom and that it's easy to fall into the trap of false freedom but it sounds like you're just trying to build another cage for yourself, based on what you have been taught to value.
>>36316253
There is no such thing as life. We may very well be the little toys and machines of some asshole, looking down at us like specs. We always strive to become that asshole, whether it be climbing the corporate ladder or trying to gain power over one person. But I present a simple idea: what if being the people on the little speck is the better option? What if the lower we get, the better it is? Imagine becoming so small in a sense of control that though you are a full-sized man, the wind can push you around, and you are free from the chains of responsibility and control.
On different universal layers, each overlapping one another, there are fundamental differences in the world. Living on the lowest level would be bliss for a robot, with no social norms or guidelines, and the highest level would be Chad's paradise, where if you don't conform to Chaddity then you get put in your place.Using this analogy, does this mean that robots having a lower place in the world compared to chad is a lower-scale representation of these dimensional oddities and differences?
the autism flowed harder than it ever has
>>36318085
>To accept that the individual will forever be striving for this truth is the experience of life itself.
life itself is truth. you can only experience truth, not strive for it. everything else is subjective commentary.
>>36316600
The only problem with this is that those most in need of escape are the same who lack the discipline to create it.
t. an example of this principle
>>36317130
> We've been seeking 'higher meaning' since the Axial Age and it's done nothing for us.
At a societal level, I agree, but I doubt I'm alone in saying I'm interested in personal salvation more than public salvation. The grim reality of things is that none of us are Atlas; to hold the world is to be crushed by it. I pass by the homeless every day; in my experience, helping them only makes my own life worse.
>>36316777
I'd say this is pretty true, but I'd go a different step further: I believe, not just in humanity, but across life as a whole, genetic winners feel happy, and genetic losers feel bad, as an evolutionary enforcement of course correction. Sadly, by virtue that we're here on /r9k/, chances are good that none of us revel in the splendors of natural success
Thanks for the thread by the way; I've been wanting something like this for weeks
>>36318426
Thank you! Will watch
>>36316253
I always want to do great things, but I realize I am not good looking enough.
I am just average and nobody wants average.
Every time I voice my opinion it never reaches the right people and my opposition is the only people who find it and they come in waves like rats and defile everything I touch.
Then it becomes impossible to find because we live in a society where the majority controls content distribution and the majority is idiotic always in the wrong.
It doesn't matter that I am completely right in my "opinion" and I can back it up with facts and clear undeniable visual truth.
It's still disregarded by the self regurgitating imbeciles that surround me.
Then I watch as people who are prettier than me go around spewing forth this rotten despicable vile destructive anti-humantiarian bile and everyone just devours it as holy gospel.
I feel utterly and completely isolated.
I don't want to live in this filthy place with its degenerate agendas.
I worry about our youth growing up in such decay with their minds polluted with deceit and propaganda.
I feel we are losing our humanity and replacing it with political correctness at the sake of our very souls.
I do not want to become the soulless automaton.
>>36318524
>probably aren't inviting questions
I am, anon. Freely ask and I'll answer with what I think. My hopes here are that people see things for themselves in their way.
> but why is reason a "virtue" and why are animalistic urges to be suppressed in sight of moral limitations?
Reason is the single thing which separates us from from the rest of life. It's what makes man a man, it is its "virtue", like I said above the virtue to a rock is its own virtues of being, that of a lion to be strong and fast, a hunter. Everything has its place in existence including man. Our reason guides us, we guide ourselves, others guide us here, everything does yet here we are: Being, doing, breathing, living, experiencing - and experiencing through reason and thought. The man closest to not being a man is a literal feral child, based on instinct and 100% reactionary and instinctual, yet even feral children can be taught reason, the virtue of man. You can see it as a divide gift or not, I see it as a natural order of things and embrace it.
So why to separate and rid the animal in us? It clouds this virtue and distorts it, the lesser forms in us which are not our 'pure' ones cause discomfort, distaste, pain, an unpleasant life with a looming sense of dread or other discomforts in us. We see it in society, in problems, in personal issues, delusions, corruption. But I focus on the self for that's what is lost when these drives take over, when anger takes you and you act on it without reason there's regret, regret comes from the virtue of reason, same goes for all other forms of these 'lesser' things in us. Too get rid of them is not to ignore them, or to say with pride you are above them, but to reason and overcome them, accept them fully and do away with for you don't need them, to simply be. There's a lot to this, and not much can be said on /r9k/, seek knowledge, man placed the seed of virtue of reason throughout history and even today, through spirituality and philosophy.
>>36319017
You have my sympathy. I often dream to leave this society, but I fear the rot is core to what we are. It's understandable that our movies about machines eliminating man cast the machines as the side of good, but I can't help feeling that human extermination at their hands is more moral than its continued languishing under its own disfunction.
>>36319076
>Reason is the single thing which separates us from from the rest of life.
But this simply isn't true; Dolphins demonstrate more-than-immediate communication, and of virtues in general, there's at least one troop of chimpanzees that created chivalry in spite of their nature. (Cutting harder across the grain than we do really; chimps make our savages look pretty tame.) There is nothing that distinguishes us from the other animals other than that humanity is the species onto which we (me and you) can project ourselves onto.
>>36318209
It is nice to see people of like mind, thank you for the compliment. And so our struggle will continue enternally.
>>36318611
Each person experiences that "good" or "bad" perception of an event or life. That is their subjective commentary/truth. I am arguing for more of a "mindfulness" perspective in which we are aware of both sides and how we can never reach that objective truth by nature of the existence of differing perspectives. I guess some sort of duality perspective, similar to Eastern philosophies I would guess, although I am far from well read in that area. Even your view and my own would fall victim to my line of reasoning/perspective as it may be. Our views may differ from others and so we reach the point in which neither of us could be truly objective. By assuming we know the "truth" or right way to perceive things we are limiting ourselves to our own perceptions of the situation. I believe that keeping this "search for truth" in mind is the right way to think, live, etc but in doing so I am falling victim to my own words as I experience the world in my own way. Thus the endless struggle continues to balance my own view with an unattainable broader view overall.
I feel like I am not explaining it the best but here ya go anyway.
>>36319173
Forgot to toss this in: Octopi pretty famously demonstrate superhuman powers of reason in many puzzles, and they only live four or five years; if they had our longevity, they would be to us as we are to monkeys. Their lack of communications (most meetings end in either sex or slaughter) prevents them from standing on the shoulders of their ancestors as we do, and their natural implements work better than ours, which would pretty neatly explain their lack of invention.
Im high on acid right now and Im afraid that if I keep reading this stuff I might turn into one
>>36319281
Have a nice trip, my friend
>>36318524
>how can you "just be in the moment" and live mindfully if you are always fighting your inner desires and contradictions
If one is fighting them they aren't fully being, you embrace them to fully 'be'. Embrace them compassionately and see it for what it is so to quell it. Self control and self discipline, this can come with ease or through hard work and is best said by Simonides in Plato's "Protagoras" - (paraphrasing) It's easy to be a good man, but it's not easy to become a good man.
>you say you want freedom and that it's easy to fall into the trap of false freedom but it sounds like you're just trying to build another cage for yourself, based on what you have been taught to value.
The freedom I speak of is not liberation but something earthly, of acceptance and peace with one self and everything beyond the self. It's death of the ego and embracing life for what it is. It's not a cage for it does not limit any, dull nothing, restrict nothing, and is at a constant peace and ready for death. Stoicism is a good start to understand this reasoning, almost all forms of philosophy lead down this path, existentialism and specifically overcoming it and being a true existentialist as Niezsche puts it is a valid path towards it. The tools are there ready for anyone to take and make their own being and understandin, of self realisation.
>>36318669
>but I'd go a different step further: I believe, not just in humanity, but across life as a whole, genetic winners feel happy, and genetic losers feel bad, as an evolutionary enforcement of course correction. Sadly, by virtue that we're here on /r9k/, chances are good that none of us revel in the splendors of natural success
The struggle and pain one faces in such circumstances, of seeing but not having, leads him to the path of self, for if you can keep indulging yourself it's easy to keep sedated with new musing regularly, living like hedonist. Through great pain comes great change, and pining over your place in life makes one stagnate, about seeing splendours in life and in others and having jealousy overwhelm, and the jealousy feed the anger, but even when you have one will still want more, we are forever greedy and few are content in life, and the ones that are live simply despite having the means to have far more, there's reason to that for they overcome and let go what's needed to live true to one self, as time goes and one heads down the path of one self we all let go the lesser parts of us, the struggle is in what pace we change, for a lot have realisations at late stages in their life, so I urge for others to pursue knowledge of all types, so one can confront the man in the mirror more easily.
>>36319241
Expand my meaning of "reason" to more than puzzle solving and self awareness to the ability to critically think, to be able to create, to write, discuss, build, destroy, to be at the highest current known mental fortitude to embrace life. Our intellect, our reason, our creativity is our virtue, and as being man we should spearhead life with it, Once you learn one cannot willingly unlearn, and take that in stride and not remorse.
I've been thinking for a long time about the current degenerate state of society and the path towards increasing degeneracy and decadency that it is moving on. I recently realized that, although it is generally accurate to say that western society is worse today because of declining morals, the best path for society in the future cannot harken back to the ideal times of the past as the historical fascists (including Nationalist Socialist Germany and Fascist Italy) attempted to do. This doesn't work because it fails to understand that current society is just a moment in a cyclical feedback process akin to evolution, and which the current factors influencing society will always guarantee a unique form of society compared to any past society. On this line of thought, seeing society as the product of a feedback loop that generates unique societies based upon the gestalt of the factors influencing it, I have hope that world will not tend towards a permanent dystopia and that this civilizational feedback loop will produce an improved society in my life time. I do believe however that the worst is yet to come, that the west is like Rome nearing its final years and that we are on the precipice of a new dark ages that will only end once a new humanist renaissance emerges from the dark depths of human suffering.
>>36319536
I'm being a bit of a dick in this post; forgive me.
>create
Chimps do this (spears), and cetaceans are missing dexterity for this, but almost certainly not mindpower
>write
Koko the gorilla (and gorillas aren't even in the top tier of intelligence) got very, very close to this. (She specified symbols to be translated into speech, and meaningfully communicated this way.)
>discuss
dolphins are ahead of us in this, if anything
>build
Most intelligent creatures have no need of this; we're an oddity in this regard, because our neighbors are ants, non-North-American termites, beavers, gorillas build "nests" in trees to keep them off the ground at night, birds build actual nests, and so on. Building isn't that uncommon
>destroy
If we're talking about physical structures strictly, I struggle to find examples in the animal world, but many captive animals will attempt to break from their captivity without prior conditioning
By most scientific reasoning, cetaceans are beyond us in terms of intelligence, empathy, and communication alike. But the practicality of civilization for them is pretty small.
> Once you learn one cannot willingly unlearn, and take that in stride and not remorse.
This is good advice, but I don't see how it relates to the rest of this
Responding to >>36319453 and >>36319740 in just a bit
>>36319536
I forgot; Koko actually does write. She had to be trained to do so, but so do we.
>>36319981
I don't argue you, but still none of those are man, and does not ask the questions man does, nor explore everything which there is and there is not the way man does. There are many ways to see it, many perspectives of life, and what you pointed out should be taken on board and gained from, learned from is my point, and that man can live simply, and there is a place for man to "be" just as in your examples, for none of the things your mentioned are not themselves. There is peace in man, and he can willingly find it with reason, while everything you have mentioned while can be in likeness of man, it does not 'require' anything to simply be, man seems like he does, and in my view letting go is how he achieves this state - And to let go? Well, he must have learned and gain to have something to let go, so to let go one must learn and see in a different manner, thus reason being our virtue and pitfall.
>>36319740
>I do believe however that the worst is yet to come, that the west is like Rome nearing its final years and that we are on the precipice of a new dark ages that will only end once a new humanist renaissance emerges from the dark depths of human suffering.
I agree with this; but I'd tend to see more as Hitler does on the other points: I firmly believe that social dynamics drive civilization, and that technology merely paints the same picture with a new brush. If you watch The Jetsons, it's relatable despite the serendipitous convenience of everything because that convenience is irrelevant to the most pressing matters of the soul. Take stock: America was originally based on civilizations with radically little technology by comparison, and it worked the same way. Just as the Roman senate fell into irrelevance, so does ours. The fact of that matter in particular is that a group has a collective action problem, an individual doesn't, and any small difference in power can be leveraged to expand that gap, so over time, it's only sensible that individuals come to imperial dominance of a society, and the future becomes a simple matter of what's in their character. And I don't think it unreasonable to assume that leaders will usually fall into a few profiles.
>>36319453
> leads him to the path of self
leads some, but others just escape their feelings entirely, and become even further from self-awareness than normal. That said, your overall point is well-taken, I am to a point guilty of exactly that greed (though I wouldn't personally phrase it as such); I'm beyond my peers in a lot of ways. (Money, in particular). I'm out of chars; cont
>>36320160
I can definitely agree with this, and I'd say our modern culture is deeply in denial of it. I'd opine SJWism is almost entirely composed of denial of this exact principle, if I read you write (that at the end of the day, man has a specific character, and that denial and deviance therefrom is only an avenue to suffering)
I've been in absolute distraught with people for the last few years. Everyone is a fucking phony and a faggot. Especially on the internet, I fucking hate people on the internet. Everyone tries to put up a front and be witty and funny on the interne. It makes me sick. I fucking hate memes and everyone who shares that type of shit thinking they belong to some cool underground memer culture. I'm sick of fucking desperate punks tryina chat up my girlfriend with their witty, "funny" comments. Also sick of the fucking children taking pride in being a retarded virgin even though you're 16 and haven't been outside in 2 years, ya fucking self-pity homo. Especially fucking sick of you "weedhead" fuckfaces who can't roll a l for your own damn life. This shit is tragic. And don't ask to hit it if you're not even gonna inhale the shit you eggroll twitterface motherfucker. N then there you are talking about how many cigarettes you smoke to your twitter followers you dickknob what's wrong with your head? It's always this one fucking excuse of a male talking shit. You are all fucking professional actors. I don't want any of you close to me at all. I have one friend only and that's my big brother. Please don't come near we. Just who the fuck do you think you're fooling with your "personality"? The people who know the least are the ones who talk the most, and that makes me fucking sad. I need a filter, my man, I really don't wanna see you fucking interpreters man.
>>36319453
I do agree with the path of finding the path as quickly as possible; I suppose my only real point of contention is that I believe this path is defined more by crude instinct than by spirituality, though I'll admit I have no counter to the happy monks, other perhaps than the happy fratfags. I've considered before that both ways work, and I think I'm coming back to that conclusion
Is there any point in getting a job? Most people look at monetary wealth as one of the greatest spource of enjoyment - we always want more money, even if studies showed that past $50k~ most people are equally happy. And what do we do with said cash? We attempt to improve our standard of well being and have new experiences - however, in having a job, we simply reduce the time to have such experiences to meagre amounts of time every year, even more so. Even during retirement, we may no longer be able to have such experiences, as we are simply not as healthy, or feel that we are too late in life to do so. Would it not be simply better to leave a life reliant on money and work, and simply travel, therefor having more time to have such experiences, not only this, have more time to pursue hobbies that one enjoys to do and master.
When we look back at our time on Earth, we recount our experiences as a measure of how we consider such time spent - does the current system we live in limit our ability to simply live as a human, rather than a cog in the ever-working society
dude weed lmao
>>36320506
Theory: the loudest, proudest people are in denial of deeper, more primal embarrassment, and this false pride is louder than real pride because the proud one is asserting to themselves more than to others. Sluts brag, but chaste women don't talk about it. "Smokerbro" faggots brag; non-smokers don't (usually) talk about it. "le robot"s never shut up about their "legitimacy", alcoholics are either ashamed or "ooooohhhhmigod party peepal!"
>>36320783
Personally, I'm out of the illusion of work as a gateway to not-work (which is what the money is for), but I'm somewhere between too proud/insecure to stop, and too afraid. That said, I think entrepreneurs often find fulfillment in their enterprises.
I wonder about other people. Do the Jews who study Talmud hours on end for years get something out of it?
Or is all that matters that they have families and everything else is just killing time?
If reincarnation is real, would I have a family of my own in my next life? Or would I exist in this numbing emptiness again?
>>36320783
>>36320920
I'm not particularly a wise or experienced man in life, relatively sheltered so the wagie life is all I know - if I picked up my bags and went wandering, I'd have no idea how to survive; even just a scant life working a bare minimum, the lack of creature comforts would make me hate the life I'd have
I don't like the wagie life, but it's all I know
>>36319981
>cetaceans are beyond us in terms of intelligence, empathy, and communication alike
what makes people come to that consensus? I saw this in star trek too
I really like to be pitied and looked down upon, and coddled like a child. I don't know why but I want someone to just hold me. I probably just want acceptance. I have a disgusting personality, and after being looked down upon and then embraced it shows that they understand that I'm terrible but still love me unconditionally.
You know what I fucking hate? The big emojis on Facebook Messenger.
If you put an emoji in with the message, it matches the size of the message, but if you post an emoji alone it shows up HUGE like those stupid stickers you can download packs of. And it was actually a big reason why I'd avoid using messenger (also the idea of about 100 people being able to reach my phone at any point disgusted me).
And recently whatsapp decided to adopt this giant emoji thing. And it's like, why so much emphasis on the emojis? I feel the way we're going, in like 5 years or so we're going to end up phasing out using words for text at all, and just communicate using fucking symbols. THEN I think that we'll end up expressing only basic ideas, and not only will we become less articulate for it but we won't express deeper thoughts in general, and we'll all be worse off for it, and it'll go the same way as handwriting quality declining because nobody writes on a piece of paper anymore, and how we're all about short term rewards and are more impatient because of the internet.
I honestly think so.
>>36321329
Sophisticated speech has been figured out, and their brain-to-body ratio is brain heavier than ours, plus a lot of their behavior is indicative of really high intelligence. As for empathy, they save people much more than people save us, and evolutionarily speaking, we're a branch from one of the nastiest trees (primates)
>>36321283
Personally, I don't believe they're motivated by morality, but rather an urge to excuse themselves; their cannibalism is uncharacteristic of the morally upstanding
Writing about life is best left to those who live it, fellas.
>>36321591
Most people who crutch with emojis probably don't have very deep thoughts anyway
>>36321612
B-but I do live life anon.
>>36321612
The paradox of this post is much more interesting than the post itself
>>36316253
The only solution to humanity's backwards evolution is not a very ethical one. If I am successful in my plan we will make it mandatory for everyone to take an iq test before they graduate school and if they score lower than an iq of 98 they will be sterilized, leaving us with more (((SUPERIOR PEOPLE))) and less of the (((DARK)))
>>36321967
Wait, you are right.
>>36316253
had a wet dream about chaotic upbringings
wet soil but the flowers are dead
andy warhol looked me in the eyes the other night
dated a girl with a head like clouds
a room of faceless people staring at me, my cup was empty
First and final bump for this island of profundity in a sea of piss
>>36323005
i'll give you a bump before it dies.
>>36324377
>>36323005
Write instead of bumping. It started with philosophy but doesn't have to end so.