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MBTI thread (ESFPs not allowed) How do I tell if I'm

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MBTI thread (ESFPs not allowed)

How do I tell if I'm INFP or INFJ?
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You're INFJ
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>>36315122
You literally have the picture right there, look at it, google what each function means and compare to your thought processes.

Also ISFJ is the best function, you don't have to accept it but this is what peak performance looks like.
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>>36315286
Type* not function
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>>36315122
Type these seven hamsters
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>>36315247
>>36315286

The test says im heavily INF but nearly 50/50 perceiving/judging.

I relate to both INFJ and INFP.

I guess I just answered my own question, thanks robros.
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>tfw estp but 24 khv
It was supposed to be chad type.
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Anyone else feel like Emmanuel Kant was an INTP?
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>>36315122
>Be ENTP
>Keep autism under control
>People actually like me
>still khv

whoops, i'll keep trying
pic unrelated
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INFP and INFJ have completely different cognitive functions.

Anyway the best way to distinguish between perception and judgement is to observe the reasoning behind your behavior. What do you tend to naturally do? Do you seek closure and structure? (then you're infj). Otherwise you're more likely to be an infp.

Anyway regardless of the type, you can be anything you want to really. Infps can train themselves to be organised as well. Mbti is just a way to label yourself, but you don't necessarily have live up to your label.
The research behind cognitive functions is sparse. No self respecting psychologist follows it. You have better prospects with the big 5.
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>>36315349
are you more of a baby or a pussy?
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ISTJ.
It's been years and I still don't entirely know how I feel about it.
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Threadly Reminder:

>tfw no INTJ gf

No other type but ENTJ can compare. Really. The INTJ is the uberwomensch.
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>>36315438

Naturally i tend to talk to myself out loud in my room, usually for hours on end about past events, psychological theories, future plans etc. That seems to be all I do tbqh. I do seek structure but that's because im so unconfident in my abilities that i need to be told what to do by other people and rigid structures leave less room for error.
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>>36315671
>>36315671
That sounds like Si and Ne. Both are in infps cognitive functions.

Ne involves seeing things "as if," with various possible representations of reality.

Si (Introverted Sensing) often involves storing data and information, then comparing and contrasting the current situation with similar ones.
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bump

mfw when muted
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>>36315523
Well, at least you have a profile compatible with society, so you might have a good chance getting out of this shithole.
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>>36315286
>Also ISFJ is the best function
Muh nigga. I hardly ever see fellow ISFJs in these threads.
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ESTP last time I checked, plz no bully
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What's the best website to take the test? I'm an INTJ last I checked but that was years ago.
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I usually test INFP, but I really feel like an ISFP. Does anyone else know this feel?
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>>36317055
ISFJ is drone tier. It is the most common type in the world. Enjoy being Marge Simpson.
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>>36317258
Do you seek sensual stimulations or fantasy flights?
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>>36315523
>Be ENFP
>tfw I do have an INTJ girlfriend

#blessed
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>>36317306
Except I am a man with ambition for my personal goals and could never tolerate high levels of stupidity. I won't let myself become a minor character in my own life once I get out of uni.
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>>36315329
Here you go fampai sama
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>>36317309
Flights? Idk what you mean by that but I'd guess sexual stimulation.
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>>36315122
How do I tell if I'm INTJ or INFJ?
I can see through everyones motives and had people tell me that im hard to read/cant tell whats on my mind
im an edgy nihilist at my worst and in good days I just want everyone to be happy and be morally good
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>>36317542
>How do I tell if I'm INTJ or INFJ?
There's no need to make a serious distinction. You almost certainly use both "feeling" and "thinking" to a relatively equal amount, as do most humans. Do not take MBTI literally, as it's not scientific, accurate or trustworthy enough to do so. Read up on the functions if you're interested, but also read on how much of them actually apply to reality.
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>>36317600
makes sense, thanks anon will definitely look it up
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>>36317258
ISFP here

Tell me about yourself and I'll tell you if you're INFP or ISFP

>When do you go to sleep?
>Do you feel the urge to touch things?
>Do your eyes automatically track birds and flying bugs when they fly near you?
>what would you do if you were given a loaded shotgun?
Some questions might sound silly but they have a purpose. Answer these and I'll tell you or ask you more questions to be sure.
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>>36317768
Add to this another question; Do you enjoy sports and competitive activities ? Do you enjoy fantasy stories with a childlike sense of wonder do you tend to see them as immature ?
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>>36317316
That's funny. I have an ENFP bro who plays lol a lot
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>>36317768
ISFP anon here

Q1: pretty late, past midnight always
Q2: yep, particularly my dick when I'm bored
Q3: yeah, I always try to catch them but my hand-eye coordination is always off :(
Q4: Shoot a beehive or anthill then sit and watch, or run. Idk
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>>36318095
>Shoot a beehive or anthill
What did they do to you man?
not cool
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>>36317913
Q4: I don't really play sports, but theyre alright I guess.
Q5: Usually childlike wonder, i think it's pretty easy for me to enjoy or be enthralled by things
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>>36318157
Yeah I know. I swear I'm not a sadist, I just like the visual spectacle of it.
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>>36318194
Nothing wrong with sadism, anon. Feel free to admit it.
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>>36318166
>i think it's pretty easy for me to enjoy or be enthralled by things
Other ISFP here and I can relate completely

One day I was watching TV with my brother and an infomercial for a hose that shrank and expanded came up. I instinctively went WOOOOW when I saw the thing shrinking and my brother exploded in laughter because it was funny to him.

I also remember the first time I had a cup of instant ramen in my life some months ago I live in a third world country so I don't see that often I went WOOOOW too when I saw how the dried up noodles and veggies had transformed.
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>>36318166
My guess is INFP; They tend to be Se polar and so they don't really seem competitive almost of ever. ISFP's on other hand can be competitive and confrontational. ISFP's don't really like much fantasy as far I have noticed as far I have noticed; at least not genuinely enjoy it. INFP's can, they can sometimes even enjoy cartoons at an older age.
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>>36318300
Kek. Good to see another ISFP, there doesn't seem to be alot of them around here.
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>>36318359
I think he fits the ISFP thing overall

I don't like sports either but I can be very competitive with things like games or silly competitions, but it's more like
>I want to win and I'm going to give it my best to do so but I don't mind if I lose
As long as I had fun and everyone is having a good time the outcome isn't important

As for the type of fantasy you asked about I can enjoy it a lot but not so much with more serious fantasy. I don't like reading

>>36318375
Yeah, I've seen like 4 in these threads
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>>36315122
INFPs aren't smar-

Damn...
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>>36317768
>4-7AM
>no, unless its a moddable toy like a transformers
>only bees and the like
>shoot at the wall to see the damage it does
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>>36318630
>feelings are not against rational thinking
>goes on to talk about how feelings make attune you to irrationality
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>>36315523
no fuck you intj is heartless and can't convey their emotions properly
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>>36318687
The concept of fairness isn't necessarily irrational.
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>>36318727
When it is derived from emotions and is an "acute attunement", yes it is.
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>>36315671
Which of these functions sound more familiar? And remember that Myers Briggs is not always clear cut. You could be split 50/50 between judger and perceive.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/07/how-to-recognize-each-myers-briggs-personality-type-in-real-life/
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>>36318660
that sounds pretty ISTP to me

As for the shotgun, do you live alone and own your house? Fi Dominance would make you not want to cause trouble for people by blowing a hole on their wall.

I would shoot a wall if it was my wall and nobody else would feel bad for the wall
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>>36318300
>>36318095
>>36318375
Love you guys. Despite you liking entry level numale bands.
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>>36318854
i imagine shotguns aren't dynamites so, if it breaks, it will be an easy fix and there is material resources in my home to fix it.
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>>36319060
>>36318854
err and no, its my parents home.
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>>36318977
I-I like good bands too anon.
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>tfw either INTP or INFP
send help
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>>36317600
Not true. An INTJ has a lot more trouble taking others' feelings into account when making decisions whereas it's almost impossible for an INFJ not to take others' feelings into account. I'm an INFJ and my best friend is an INTJ.
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>>36315122
>How do I tell if I'm INFP or INFJ?
easily
do you fail at life?
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>>36318977
you too! I listen to vidya songs and weeb music mostly though

>>36319098
You sound more like a sensor than intuitive but at the same time I don't gather Fi from your answers which makes it hard to tell fi you're ISFP.

Which part of the ISFP description do you think fits you?
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>>36319271

100% yes regarding every possible metric.
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>>36319299
you seem to have reached a conclusion, every test says im either intj or intp. i will take a look at isfp though
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how can you tell Ti and Fi apart? what if a Fi user values objective truth?
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>>36319307
then you are infp
infps are emotional mess
completely lack organizational skills
cant socialize with people normally

source:
im infp with absolutely no sensing wahtsoever
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>>36319373
go research the functions

but I had the same dilemma as you have
I would say Ti gets angry at inconsistent logic and Fi gets angry at injustice (not that they have to necessarily act upon this anger)

if someone is fighting someone who looks weaker, do you want to protect them or do you want to find out if they deserve it?
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>>36318778
It doesn't have to be, if emotions organize rational thinking then they're trying to say that rather than delusions of unfairness, for example, an angry person will have a more organized framework of facts and knowledge they've learned about unfairness than they do normally.

This is just going off on how the premise would correlate with their example given. The way I understand it is that emotions bring out the structured rational side of you rather than your view of unfairness being derived purely from the emotion.
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>>36319373
Fi is concerned about how his actions will affect others.

They'll go hungry for a day if it means everyone else will eat and then say they're not hungry until they're alone and then finally manage to eat without letting anyone notice anything.

At least that's how it works as a dominant function
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Is anyone of you robots interested in socionics? It is like MBTI, but Russian.

The names are not the same, though. For instance, ILI (INTp) in socionics in INTJ in MBTI.

They seem more accurate to me, and they are way more descriptive with functions and so.

Pic related are my results.

Also, for the equivalent in MBTI you can check here
http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=ILI_observations
(change ILI for your result and you'll get your result).

It also has a quite complete wiki.
http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=Wikisocion_home
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>>36319373
if you are Fi others will probably often complain of your poor argumentation

Ti makes compromises
Fi never makes compromises,
Fi also has the habit of retreating to itself and holding a grudge to people
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>>36319595
Oh, I forgot. A good test is here.
http://www.sociotype.com/tests/
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>>36319580
>>Fi is concerned about how his actions will affect others.
>>36319596
>Ti makes compromises

What the fuck /r9k/, you've managed to confuse both Fi AND Ti with Fe.
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>>36318630
On average intelligence but not ability to use it, or wisdom:

>God-tier
INTJ, INTP, INFJ
>Great-tier
INFP, ENTP
>Good-tier
ENTJ, ENFP
>Bad-tier
ENFJ, ISTP, ISTJ
>Goyim-tier
ISFP, ISFJ, ESTP
>Genocide-tier
ESTJ, ESFP, ESFJ

Debate me.
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>>36319660
T in general makes compromises
Fe can too but not as much as T

Fi doesnt
ever
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>>36319711
>God tier
N and F
>shit tier
S and T


ftfy
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>>36318854
>http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/theory
>on "To determine whether Fi is your dominant function, ask yourself how you react to situations"
Yes to all except the first and the last, guess that it makes me an ISFP I suppose.
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>>36319717
Ti (in a vacuum) would only compromise if it were logical and rational to do so, they wouldn't accommodate for a person unless there was a solid reason for it with factual backing based on it.

Fe is all about accommodating for the collective so I have no idea why you think otherwise.

You bunching Te and Ti together makes me feel like I'm typing for nothing though.
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>>36319660
Fi is like that because they wouldn't like to get fucked over so they avoid fucking over other people even if they end up fucked themselves because of it.

it can be frustrating but you end up letting it go pretty quick
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>>36319299
>>36319834
original post with sauce salad
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>>36317408
In that case good for you.
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>>36319888
nope
logic and reasoning can never be as strong as moral and ethics

it would be reasonable to conform if too many people put pressure, however Fi would never agree to that kind of reasoning

stop assuming everyone is an idiot, this is not redit
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>>36319953
also logic adn reason are dependend of this world - relative
moral and ethics are not, they are steadfast
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>>36319595
>>36319596

Also, for those interested in theory (like these guys)
>>36319373
>>36319498
>>36319596
>>36319660
>>36319717
>>36319834
>>36319888
>>36319908
it even has percentages for each function.
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>tfw enfp
>tfw too many friends

It's an abstract kind of feel. Like I enjoy all their company but I'm constantly letting one friend group down when I can't hang out with them.

>that devilish feel when fooling normies into thinking I'm one of them
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>>36315286
If you really feel that I feel bad for you.
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>>36319953
In the post you're replying to I didn't mention Fi.

I said:
Introverted thinking: Wouldn't easily compromise unless it made logical sense
Extroverted feeling: Is heavily marked by compromise.

I didn't say:
Anything about introverted feeling.

A Fi dom wouldn't conform due to peer pressure, I completely agree.
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I haven't done a test since about 2 years ago until today.

I used to be INTJ, now I'm INTP.

Good or bad?
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>>36319240
INTP is goat, INFP is gross
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>>36320036
im doin the test but struggling on some questions pretty hard

>I view the world using systems, structures, and classifications.
or
>I view the world through my interpersonal relationships as well as those of others.

really dont know
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>>36320104
Si is kinda underrated, especially if developed and matured.

Si > Fe is pretty bad in a lot of people though.
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>>36320152
Then leave it at the middle, it doesn't bother the test if you do.
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>>36320106
if i would list it in chance to make compromises i think it would be

Fi<Fe<Ti<Te
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>>36320036
>Using extroverted thinking as his base function and introverted intuition as his creative, the LIE has an amazing ability at not only predicting future trends, but also understanding what is necessary to make these future trends profitable. The LIE has an innate understanding of the most valuable use of capital and labor, and has the energy and drive to align these tools to achieving his goals. The LIE easily assesses the validity and usefulness of any information he happens to run across. Like the EIE, the LIE has great leadership potential, but unlike the EIE, the LIE is less concerned with the effects of his decisions on people's relationships or emotions, and more concerned with the impersonal results. At his best, the LIE is a visionary leader who understands the the big picture as well as the risks and rewards of every decision. At his worst, the LIE can become so focused on the future and the bottom line that he loses touch with the present and his personal relationships. Additionally, the LIE can be so focused on achieving his external goals that he forgets to take care of his own personal needs.

Ok.........I'm not sure what does the blue model supposed to mean. Does it mean that I use the Ne and Ti functions?
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>>36319711
I don't know why an INFJ is in God tier. That doesn't make sense.
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>>36320195
>if i would list it in chance to make compromises i think it would be
>Fi<Fe<Ti<Te
Care to explain why?
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what does any of this mean

not original post
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>>36320276
Astrology. Now take the test
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>>36320202
It means that you are basically the MBTI's ENTP. (For converting MBTI to socionics you have to swap the last letter).

Here is more info.
http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.php?title=LIE
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>>36320276
It's a circlejerk concerning inaccurate and unscientific psychological typing that can be used unreliably to group robots into somewhat similiar groups of people.
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>>36320308
>>36320202
>>36320036
Daily reminder that socionics is pseudo intellectual garbage.
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>>36320313
we're grouping the INFPs so we can make fun of them more efficiently
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>>36320298
i got istp-t on 16personalities
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>>36319953
>logic and reasoning can never be as strong as morals and ethics
What are you trying to say?
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>>36319711
what the fuck do you mean by this?
og og oooooogg
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>>36320235
F = ethics and morality
T = logic and reasoning
e= conforming
i = nonconforming

Fe and Ti probably switch sides from type to type
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This is now an INTJ/reddit hate thread. Thanks for making the thread for me op.
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>>36320449
INTJs are the smartest and toughest type.
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How do we deal with the INTJ/reddit problem?
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>>36320571
ENTP redditards are worse. They won't stop shilling socionics.
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>>36320081
But you actually are a normie though
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Post your INTJ hate. Reminder that this is an INTJ/reddit hate thread.
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>>36320571
Permabanning you autists and the retards taking your bait would be a better option, desu.
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INTJ here
Most INTJs are mistyped
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>>36320648
Pea brained INTJ detected.
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>>36319908
Oh I agree, it just seemed like you were saying Fi is chiefly about actions that affect people as a whole, like how we're going to harmonize and affect the community. That's Fe's game.

Fi doms would want to do right by individuals and fight for what they believe in for sure but doing so even if it might piss off the collective and generally being a square peg in a playbox full of circle holes is what's Fi's all about.
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>>36320655
You are an INTJ in stage 3 of INTJ development.
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>>36320654
everyone who uses this test is mistyped

use the fucking keys2cognition if you want the real results instead of this childish meme bs """test"""
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>>36320720
Thanks. Want to play today too?
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>>36320697
Did you know everybody who shills socionics is an ENTP? It's because ENTPs are the most pseudo intellectual type and they are attracted to pseudo intellectual systems. Makes sense right?
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>>36320731
Ok but lets play reddit bingo instead.
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>>36320750
Why did you link to my post?
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>>36319711
>Great tier
>INFP
Into the trash it goes

t. INFP
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>>36320757
>he made an image too
I feel honored
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Look how self absorbed INTJs are. Wow what autism.
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>>36320757
if you do not have bottom right checked you do not belong here
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>>36320785
I make lots of images ENTP-kun. I will make some more anti socionics ones for you soon.
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>>36320697
Yeah I realized I didn't make my example very clear at first but I'm glad it could get through.

Fi is very selfish but the good kind of selfish. They will do things because they feel it's the best for them but it ends up being good for those around them most times so everyone's happy.
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>>36320844
I'm an INTJ though
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>>36320841
Fact: intuitives are less smart than sensors
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>>36320869
It's hard to tell the difference. They are both pseudo intellectual retards.
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>>36320873
>thinking about future applications and using your imagination to solve problems is somehow less smart than being "alert" for sensory details
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>>36320846
INTJs have Fi. They are secretly pussies.
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>>36320904
One is pragmatic and logical. The other is being an INFP.
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>>36320873
Fact:
it doesnt matter because you are all personalityless sheeps
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>>36320976
I find it hilarious that you think being an INFP is now something really bad
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>>36320904
it is according to the school system, work market, parents and the television

i sometiems jsut want to shootmyself so i dont have to live in this fucking retarded world where le high ayy quo meme is top of the world
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>>36321020
So you don't like that you're dumb? Sucks to be you
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>>36320979
My sheep is better than yours
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>>36321045
i have only 120 iq and what?
you think your shitty mensa memberships make you speacial?
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Fact: all intuitive ideologies are impractical, over idealistic and have done nothing but retard the world

While sensors ideologies like capitalism have made the world prosper.

>>36321003
INTJ is worse though. At least an INFP doesn't pretend to be smart and have an unfounded superiority complex.
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>>36321078
>he thinks 120 isn't high
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>>36321102
lol when i say low i mean 120-30ish im not mentally handicapped
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>>36321085
Ideologies are theoretical concepts. You sure you as an ESFP would even understand such a thing?
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>>36321078
>>36321123
>>36321102
INTJ redditards spotted.
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>>36321085
>that socialism pic
Nice to see my country represented

Intuitives stay away from politics please
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>>36321085
This is incredibly wrong. INTPs and INTJs thrive on individualism and would loathe communism/socialism

t.free market INTP
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>>36321123
After 115 is doesn't matter too much, you will be able to solve the same shit as higher IQ people, just with more work/slower
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>>36321155
How to spot an ESFP: he still can't crop an image properly
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>>36321020
>>36321045
>>36321067
>>36321141
Did you guys know INTJs are the most insecure type out of all the types? Even worse than INFPs.
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>>36321155
thats both me and im infp you autist

>>36321175
exactly
competition between 115+ is a S thing
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>>36321215
ahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
intjs are not as nearly as insecure as infp

source: infp with intj brother
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>>36321173
Tbh my INTP father was pretty happy in socialism, he could study almost all the shit he wanted and could do really simple work to live pretty decently
The non-retards got much more freedom than retarded sheeple
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>>36321085
Stop posting this garbage bait
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>>36321243
what makes you guys so insecure?

why don't you love yourselves?
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>>36321173
This is incorrect. Karl marx was INTJ. It's the INTJs wet dream to suppress individuality in favour of a high goal. The borg concept is based off INTJ thinking.

INTPs on the other hand don't like Se based things like capitalism and greed. They like socialism because they are weak and need hand outs. They are on the same level as the disabled of society.
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>>36321313
>I don't know shit about Karl Marx but I think he made communism and that is bad because some capitalists told me that my entire life. Fuckin commies man, if I post this everyone will see how I'm right and I WIN
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>>36321243
INTJs just hide it better and put on a false front. Their entire lives are run by their insecurities. It's that bad.

The guy who buys a sports car and gets muscles to make up for his tiny penis encompasses INTJ/ENTJ thinking.
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>>36321260
He wasn't a real INTP. He must have enjoyed reading that government mandated propaganda

>>36321313
>Marx the bleeding heart "muh means of production and poo babbies who need gib me dats" an INTJ

He's an ENTJ at best and more than likely a ESFJ

>>36321351
I'm a communist and I can't follow a comment chain because I'm dying of starvation but that god I don't have all those evil choices created by capitalism
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>>36321430
Well, at least i don't get my meme images from reddit.
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>>36321313
I'm an INTP and I hate communism with a burning passion and will fiercely debate any commie/socialist I see online that's spouting off dumb shit.

Your theory is stupid and is most likely just bait.
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>>36321313
At least marx was intelligent enough to be able to write some books
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>>36321446
rekt originally organically
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>>36321418
Well, at least i'm not an ESFP.
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>>36321446
>can't even recognize an imgur filename

wew
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>>36321430
>He's an ENTJ at best and more than likely a ESFJ
Please stop using your displacement defense mechanism INTJ-kun.
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>>36321418
>buying a fancy car
>getting buff
>fearing for his small peen
thats one hundren percent S thing
completely unrelated to any N

>>36321292
because i want to live a life like a normal person but i cant because everyone keeps violating my values so i end up liking and hating everyone in the same time and retreat into the room lock the door and cry
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>>36321516
>imgur isn't used by redditshit almost exclusively
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>>36321524
Well, at least I use an intelligent defense mechanism instead of throwing poo everywhere.
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>>36321430
No way Marx was ENTJ.

He was intx. I don't think an ENTJ would be an advocate for socialism
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>>36321578
I'm an ESFP. My IQ is on the top of the bell curve.
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>>36321561
he would
but in a very mean "get the bitches fuck stupid poor people" kinda way
like stalin
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>>36321578
He's an ESFP leaf LARPing as an ISTP.

ESFP can be autistic when threatened apparently. It's much worse however if you fall for his shit
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>>36321541
>everything is reddit
>screaming reddit as an argument

Yep you're a commie
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>>36321448
You might of learned to not like communism/socialism because real world experience shows those ideologies are bad. But if it wasn't for that your natural inclination would be socialism.
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>>36321660
I wish I was one, but sadly communism is over. it will probably come back soon though
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>>36321629
Welp, he has at least 18 posts in this thread, which before I post has 173 posts. That makes him about 10% of the thread.

Is there any way of making this thread more about MBTI in general? I mean, we are talking way too much about INTJs.
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>>36321680
There's LITERALLY nothing wrong with communism. prove me wrong.
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>>36321680
>these things don't work in practice but you'd like it if you were retarded
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>>36321578
ISTP

>entj
So an autistic commie then.
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>>36321711
Obviously not him, but I think there never was a communist, or even a socialist country. People can call themselves whatever they want, even the Nazis called themselves socialists.
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>>36321694
Don't worry, you all never learn
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>>36321743
What's wrong with not being "masculine" aka being a Chad?
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>>36321711
I can't.

WTF I hate food now
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>>36321762
I have to agree there. You're STILL posting reddit images.
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>>36321085
>implying nazism wasn't one of the most successful and efficient ideologies/governments
Learn history
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>>36321767
Dunno, apparently for the troll, types that call themselves alpha or that are too masculine are bad.

He seems to be having fun, but we shouldn't let him.
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>>36321711
This is why nobody wants to breed with intuitives.
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INTP here. I don't know how normies can continue to have fun without being on drugs. Everything is so boring and colorless for me when I'm not on either shrooms, weed, or acid.
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>>36321313
INTPs realize communism won't work in reality, and some socialist aspects are needed for a society to function. Free market capitalism won't work in reality either
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>>36321831
>breeding is my top priority in life
You're no better than any other animal, roach.
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>>36321708
He usually does it for like an hour and eventually gets bored. I wonder if this is the same leaf that posts the 'City people voted for Hillary' meme on /pol/.

Sure. I guess we could play with typology or excoriate the other types

>>36321711
>people falling for this shit even further than the ESFP leaf
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>>36321796
>keep scapegoating reddit to fit in
>all images start with '14'
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>>36321849
Define "work".
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>>36321711
It doesn't work in reality, large scale
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>>36319711
>estp
>goyims

pick one nigger
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Sensors are literally the worst, here's proof
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I don't understand this shit.
Ni and Ti are the only functions that I use, but apparently they're incompatible as primary/auxiliary functions.
Also, I think I prefer Fi over Fe and Se over Si, but I pretty much never use them so I'm not even sure.
So I guess I'm closest to being an intj, but I have no ambitions and I'm unorganized as fuck.

Can somebody please explain this to me?
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>>36321898
Thanks for the answer m8.

Is /pol/ very prevalent here? Wasn't /pol/ made for people from /r9k/ who liked to talk about supporting Trump?
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>>36321851
I wonder what caused such low INTJ numbers in women. Women must be wired to detect INTJ speed walking autism from a distance and run away.
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>>36321965
Why are they kicking the doggo
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>>36321908
You sure about that, big boi?
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>>36321914
Actually function and not devolve into Stalin's Russia. Not enough resources, technology isn't advanced enough to take care of the necessary physical labor, and people naturally want to lead or be led, for the most part.
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>>36322018
>Stalin's Russia
But that worked.
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>>36321976
/pol/ was an/is a joke board for the few intuitives there who spread bullshit for the sensors who take everything there seriously
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>>36322004
>changed the 4 into a 2 after getting caught
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>>36322073
>actually doing sch an autistic thing
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>>36321711
>prove me wrong
I'm in Venezuela

>but it's not real socialism!
Fuck off
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>>36321976
Very apparently. It's not welcomed nicely though thanks to the liberal incels who wallow in self pity here

And no, /pol/ was made right after /news/ got nuked or some shit. Don't remember what happened correctly
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Can you guys imagine a woman actually letting an INTJ dick into her a vagina? It sounds really gross. INTJ dicks were not meant to go into vaginas.
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>>36315122
i got INTP
is that good
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>>36322058
Early /pol/, during happenings was fucking great. Now it's devolved into a retardfest, full of newfags, normalfags and Redditards, who unironically want to force the same kind of hugbox environment onto /pol/ that's found on Reddit.
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Are incels for real?
Do they really exist?
Am I... surrounded by them right now?
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INTP are unaffected by spooks
everything will be scrutinized
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>>36322118
The good: You're probably smart
The bad: You realize how "pointless" life is because you're too smart and waste your life on 4chan
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>>36322118
If you're intelligent and mature, yes. If not, no, absolutely not.
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>>36321155
Lel. How many pictures have you made about INTJs so far? I'm curious
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>>36321908
>>36321914
>>36321929
>>36321934
>>36321937
>>36321976
>>36322001
>>36322004
>>36322018
>>36322048
>>36322058
>>36322073
>>36322095
>>36322099
>>36322105
>>36322118
>>36322128
>>36322165
>>36322168
>>36322172
Did you guys know that INTJs actually have tiny brains?

>>36322142
Yes there are many INTJs in this thread RIGHT NOW.

>>36322187
Enough to crash this thread with no survivors.
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>>36322048
Right, but it Stalin's Russia wasn't communism.
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here me me
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>>36322236
>brain size matters
I have a large one and am still INTJ
>Enough to crash this thread with no survivors
>implying you're the one doing that

>Yes there are many INTJs in this thread RIGHT NOW.
Learn how to read, stupid ESFP.
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>>36322240
You're right. It was a (Stalinistic) brand of state socialism, as is wont for attempts at communism.
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>>36322095
Where do you think you are?
oregano boregano
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>>36322261

>>36320869
was not him, it was me
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>>36322262
Normie OCD/rules autist
REEEEEEEEEe
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>>36320161

People think that Si means you are absolutely useless in physical things

It just means you need to get comfortable with your body, you will always be a slow learner, but once you get used to it you will exponentially surpass any Se who tries the same shit
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>>36322338
Is there a higher form of OCD i should aim for?
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>>36322262
ESTJ feels relatively rare around here, but your functions seem quite ok

please explain the last thing that frustrated you and how it ties into your personality so I can understand your type more
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>>36322269
I can tell you are INTJ because you have such an unlikeable way of speaking. People should sell pictures or posts made by INTJs as some sort of vagina drying product.
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>>36322304
Sorry, I just wanted to know how much percentage of this thread was shitposting by him.

>>36322262
Are you really square in real life? Does that make you productive? Are you a normie?

>>36322269
Aren't ESFPs more like normie girls who go to parties?
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>>36322168
>>36322172
thanks anons i actually feel better now
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>>36321155
So literally everything you and everyone else does to try to talk shit about INTJs.
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>>36322377
What do you mean frustrated me? Like a concept of just a recent event?
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>>36322394
Well, at least i don't post leddit images.
Pic related, a smug anime girl like me.
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>>36322413
I only bully INFPs
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>>36322261
>claims intuitives are autistic and obnoxious
>is autistic and obnoxious
He's a total retard
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>>36322262
>>36322283
>>36322284
>>36322304
>>36322338
>>36322345
>>36322364
>>36322377
Did you guys know that INTJs actually have poetic souls? They are INFPs on the inside.
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>>36322401
>Are you really square in real life?
In action but not conversation.
>Does that make you productive?
I get things done in a uniform way, if that makes sense.
>Are you a normie?
I'm a cyborg according to le test.
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>>36322485
Did you know that ESFPs who are in the grip tend to say that feelings are for losers, like you are doing right now?
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>>36322413
>>36322434

Just stop replying him for fucks sake. He seems to have lots of pictures specifically for shitting on INTJs.

>>36322476
wut m8? I haven't claimed anything.
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>>36322394
funny thing is that thats true, but i would still rather be dead than a sensing
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>>36322485
>They are INFPs on the inside.
Best of both worlds
Rationality of an NT with feelings
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>>36322416
I don't know, a recent event let's say

Or something general that explains your personality, but I didn't want to ask, well, too generally
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>>36322532
No anon. I'm an INTJ, and let me tell you that feelings are not good. If anything, they make my life shitty.

Pic kind of related.
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>>36322547
Well i'm somewhat Germaphobic and my uncle pet the dog and touched my soda can and i got pretty triggered. I also was out of town and I came home to my moms house and I noticed the sheets were on wrong and my TV was on the wrong channel and got pretty mad at that too.
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>>36322413
>>36322416
>>36322434
>>36322467
>>36322476
>>36322493
>>36322502
>>36322514
Did you guys know INTJs are "that guy" online? INTJ posts are the posts most likely to look like reddit posts.

>>36322532
More like the same irrationality of the INFP but with the facade of logic in front of it.
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>>36322627
Thanks

this place is full of INTP, INTJ, ISFP, ISTP, ENTP and man already know how they work, so it's nice to have someone different here
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Is INTP caused by shit circumstances like single childhood and relative poverty (Not ghetto/3rd world level)
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>>36322694
Even though statistically ESTJ is pretty common its usually pretty rare on this site overall, even normie boards like /pol/ and /b/.
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>>36322607
You need to go back.

Originaloi
>>
How to make sure you're an intuitive:

What you're saying is often completely misunderstood by sensors, especially Si types
Others will think you're either weird or stupid at first but will be impressed when you demonstrate intelligence
You can only speak to a select few about your ideas, most people don't want to talk about them and instead can only talk about mundane boring shit like their lifes
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>>36322659
>More like the same irrationality of the INFP but with the facade of logic in front of it.
>implying any human is logical
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>>36322694
>>36322697
>>36322715
>>36322746
>>36322751
Did you guys know elliot rodger was INTJ? Explains a lot right?

>>36322775
>implying any human is logical
This is what an illogical type would say.
>tfw INTJs will never know the feel of logic
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>>36322807
>Explains a lot right?
No, please elaborate. Hitler was an INFJ, does that mean all INFJs have attributes common with him?
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>>36322697
Probably not, it seems to simply be autism.

>>36322516
It makes sense that we hate sensing intraverted, it is our shadow function (fellow INTJ here).

> Si as Role Function (3rd function)
> The individual dislikes it when others emphasize the need for relaxation, enjoyment, and activities that are supposed to bring these about, because what they need internally is just the opposite a need for action and resolve. Rather than spend their time trying to "listen to what their body is telling them," they need to have clear external demands that are able to overcome their sense of uncertainty and hesitation.
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>>36322775
>implying any human is logical
>implying all human actions aren't logical in their own context
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>>36322807
There's literally nothing wrong with being "illogical" sometimes. Enjoy being a robot.
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>>36322828
>does that mean all INFJs have attributes common with him?
Yes actually.
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>>36322841
Anon... I'm not sure you've grasped "logic"
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>>36322807
At least I'm not a sensor who spends his whole life creating really retarded maymay images about people he hates.
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>>36323061
I'm not sure that's an argument.
A human body reacting as it is built to is hardly illogical.
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>tfw no INFP to hug relentlessly
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MBTI is absolute shit, but half of you didn't even complete high school so I mean you wouldn't know.

Keep obsessing over age old science that is constantly laughed at.
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>>36323563
>tfw no INTJ to shower with affection

>>36324088
I feel like having to post this every thread is fa stupider.

>st-stop having fun guuuuuuys this isn't science you don't know ANYTHING

No shit MBTI is mostly nonsense, doesn't mean we can't have fun with it you fucking autist.
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>>36320081
I'm in the same boat... It stinks because you know you'll never have a really good, close frendo group
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Remember if a stranger walks up to you and tries to tell you about socionics tell him no! Stranger danger.
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>>36324542
Socionics is literally the same shit as MBTI.
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>>36324614
STRANGER DANGER GET AWAY
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>>36324542
Why do you believe that if you put information into an image and not the post itself, it becomes "valid"?
Is it because your brain works that way?
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This probably doesn't belong here but as an INTP how do you make friends beyond just generally being on good/speaking terms with most people? Living in campus accommodation at college and I'm not really in any of the circles
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>>36324699
Try making a few individual friends
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Am I correct in characterizing this character's particular brand of autism as ISTP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXpxnxAL62A
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>>36324695
Reddit shill plz go.
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>>36324804
Was I correct in my assumption?
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>>36324818
STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER NO I DON'T WANT SOCIONICS STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER
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obligatory infp music for feels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvbxxjE-m88
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>>36324866
>he's too afraid of socionics because it's realistic and not only telling you how great you are

What's your Big5 type?
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>>36319711
>On average intelligence

The correlation between IQ and MBTI types is well studied. By average intelligence it's:

INTP > INTJ > INFP > INFJ > ENTP > ENFP > ENTJ > ENFJ > ISTJ > ISTP > ESTP > ISFJ > ISFP > ESFP > ESTJ > ESFJ
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>>36325028
Fact: ISTPs are the smartest type

deal with it
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>>36325055
Define "smartness".
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>>36325055
Factually wrong.

But a high IQ ISTP is an extremely useful asset to any team, more so than most types.
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>>36325055
Too bad that you're not one, right?
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Where did the "INTJ = evil mastermid" bullshit meme even come from?
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>>36325152
exactly
evil masterminds are all f
t are simply fucked up serial killers
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>>36325152
Self-perception.

Often inaccurate.
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>>36325183
I've noticed that many ISTJs mistype as INTJ because they think only that type can be "analytical", or because they are literal fedoralords
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>>36324996
I don't have one because I'm not a pseudo intellectual.

>>36325100
You're a brainlet that can't use logic. Let the smarter types handle the logic ok sweetie?
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>>36325317
>calls big5 "pseudo intellectual"
>expects to be taken seriously
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>tfw sensors literally don't understand that your true opinion on a topic can differ from the one you're telling them
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>big 5 is a vastly superior model compared to MBTI
>people prefer MBTI because it gives them a character class to role play as

Dungeons and Dragons was a mistake
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>>36325401
A lot of sensors have trouble understanding that other people are allowed to have different principles and ways of life than them. Do you really expect them to comprehend the notion that some people aren't what they appear to be at face value?
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>>36322659
That image is fake as fuck. Nobody is that autistic.
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>>36325500
Tbh I really hope that that leddit comment was written by the ESFP guy ITT.
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>>36325493
They usually comprehend it, it just makes them angry so they don't go looking for it.
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>>36325469
>be a brainlet
>believe in big 5
>doesn't know that big 5 only describes surface characteristics
>doesn't know it's Te bullshit
>thinks that agreeablness is a personality trait that tells you anything significant

Might as well just measure people's personality traits depending on how much of a justin bieber fan you are.
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>>36325569
>implying you have to "believe" in observational study
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>>36325500
The comment is real. It's still there. I went and looked it up.

>>36325614
Let the Ti geniuses tell you what systems work. Te is meant to just copy Ti anyway.
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>>36325401
There's two sides to this.

As an ISTP I usually assume what people say is sincere and it takes conscious effort to consider the alternative.

On the other hand with the Internet and particularly on anonymous sites like 4chan it feels very natural to "test out" arguments or ideas by presenting them as something I sincerely believe and seeing how people react to them or take them apart instead of actually stopping to reason about them myself. It feels efficient.

I don't feel upset doing this like I would expressing an insincere argument in real life.
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>>36325721
>The comment is real. It's still there. I went and looked it up.
So you're a redditor and think you have an authority to tell everyone who only posts shit from there a few times to "fuck off"?
>Let the Ti geniuses tell you what systems work.
It's not much of a genius if it can't come up with ideas on his own. Also ESFPs don't have Ti.
>Te is meant to just copy Ti anyway.
So they are identical? One as good as the other, just in different areas?
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>>36325055
Fact: INTJ is the greatest type.
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>>36325721
Nah man, that fucking has to be a joke. Nobody is that into this shit. I understand people want validation and all things like it, but this was most likely a joke. If not this person is actually the worst of the INTJs.
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>>36326218
You are at the top of virginity.
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>>36326340
Retards like that do exist. Probably an edgelord who saw the mastermind bullshit and decided it was "his" type
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>>36326406
What's wrong with being a virgin again?
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>>36326340
He's not the worst. He is the average.
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>>36326445
It means nobody likes you.
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>>36326545
>It means nobody likes you.
What's wrong with not being liked?
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What does this mean

INTJ btw
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>>36326577
It's good for us sensors. That means less INTJs breed.
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>>36326659
It means you're not retarded
>>36326758
Does MBTI type have to do something with genes?
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>>36325055
Not really. Sensing is fucking gay. I'd rather be a feeler than a sensor.

Ni>Ne>Si>Se
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>>36320151
no it's not you fuckhead
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>>36326884
Intuition makes you into a weakling. You would only want intuition if you're a girl.
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>>36327147
>he has to label his filenames or else he wouldn't find them
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INTP here
I had a girlfriend and thought I would never be here
But now that I don't have her I realize how fucking pathetic I am

I thought I had a friend and I even made myself not fall in love with her to be a better friend. But she rejected me when I opened up. I've only opened up with 2 people in my entire life and fortunately the first one accepted me.
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>>36327147
Every great scientist was an intuitive. Sensors are just boring ass people that see life in black and white. Sensors are just the type that follow everything. The only great thing that they've done was doing shit for the intuitives.
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>>36327147
What's wrong with being a girl?
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>>36327393
You don't have a peepee and need to get it from other people.
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>ENTP-A
Is that bad?
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>>36327691
No, unless you're a genuine psychopath who mistypes as ENTP.
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>>36327691
Not really. I'd say it's pretty good.
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>>36327691
>E
normie get out
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>>36327271
Sensors are the main characters. Intuitives are the nerdy sidekick at most. We use you for your homework. If life was a video game then intuitives are getting carried. Sensors make better innovators.
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>>36327739
>believing an E personality type is a normie

Why did you even come to to this thread?
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>>36327713
ENTPs are not psychopaths. Arguing on forums and playing devil's advocate doesn't mean you're a psychopath.
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>>36327807
>literally too retarded for abstraction
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>>36327762
>Sensors make better innovators.
>We use you for your homework.

What.
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rate and hate

how much of a robot I am?
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>>36327860
Intuitives are code monkeys. They are useful like calculators. But bad at practical original thought. Their mind can't focus on what matters. That's why every intuitive needs to have a sensor to babysit them.
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INFP here

When does it get better?
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>>36325469
>the big 5
>better than MBTI
Hahahahahah, nah. Big5 is way too vague. The big5 is more like horoscopes than MBTI
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>>36327933
>When does it get better?
When you make it better.
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>>36327961
How is this vague?

It very clearly says "Consider suicide" right in that white box.
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>>36327882
You're a goddamn immature INTP/INFP with almost no people skills and are often seen by others as a literal autist?

>>36327920
Code monkeys are sensors and always use the same standard methods to construct what the intuitive has thought up before.

>They are useful like calculators.
That would be Ti

>Their mind can't focus on what matters
I'm pretty sure that the destination and future of the world is more important than worrying about how much dust there is in your house.

>That's why every intuitive needs to have a sensor to babysit them.
More like to offload the OCD cleaning/routing bullshit to the sensor robot. Which could be replaced by literal robots in the near future.

See how none of your sentences make any sense? No? Well, that's just sad.
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INTP here. Death to Communism. Death to Zionism. Death to Synagogue of Satan. Death to Islam.

Am who am I kidding the masses of normies want everything to turn into a fucking third world shit hole just let them. May as well live on NEETbux since nobody gives a fuck about anything anymore.
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>>36328055
k

originally ok
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>>36328024
>immature
I guess, maybe a less after breaking up with my GF since I became very jaded but I guess thinking jaded = mature is immature
>with almost no people skills
most of my interactions are through facebook and messages instead of talking with people IRL
>are often seen by others as a literal autist
yes
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>>36327762
>Sensors are the main characters.
You're right to an extent. Sensors are good at being to do basic labor. Sensors are the guys that either sit in a cubical, or are doing manual labor.

>Intuitives are the nerdy sidekick at most.
We're the people making things work or happen. We're the main characters of success stories.

>We use you for your homework.
No, you use us for all of the complicated difficult things in life that you don't understand. You use us because you can't come up with your own ideas.

>Sensors make better innovators.
I don't know how you came up with this, but intuitives are the ones creating revolutionary ideas.
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>Don't want to breed
>Don't want to do normieshit with anyone
>See the flaws or futility in anything, thus ruining any activity that I partake in
>Hate being around people because none of them ever want to talk about philosophy
>Just want to be alone
>The Internet offers some reprieve, but still doesn't satisfy my desire for understanding
>I can't put words to my inner feelings . . . ever

Please, someone, tell me that you understand.
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>>36327882
Here's something to tell you.
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>>36328120
Sounds like generic INT/INF problems.
Most people here who whine about "tfw no gf" all the time are not like you, they are failed normies.
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what would Driver be?
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>>36327961
>my meme test that is widely considered bullshit is less of a horoscope than your meme test
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>>36327920
>But bad at practical original thought.
I wouldn't say so. We at least have the capacity of original thought.
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The validity (statistical validity and test validity) of the MBTI as a psychometric instrument has been the subject of much criticism.

It has been estimated that between a third and a half of the published material on the MBTI has been produced for the special conferences of the Center for the Application of Psychological Type (which provide the training in the MBTI, and are funded by sales of the MBTI) or as papers in the Journal of Psychological Type (which is edited and supported by Myers-Briggs advocates and by sales of the indicator).[41] It has been argued that this reflects a lack of critical scrutiny.[41] Many of the studies that endorse MBTI are methodologically weak or unscientific.[9] A 1996 review by Gardner and Martinko concluded: "It is clear that efforts to detect simplistic linkages between type preferences and managerial effectiveness have been disappointing. Indeed, given the mixed quality of research and the inconsistent findings, no definitive conclusion regarding these relationships can be drawn."[9][42]

Psychometric specialist Robert Hogan wrote: "Most personality psychologists regard the MBTI as little more than an elaborate Chinese fortune cookie ..."[43]
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>>36328272
No evidence for dichotomies[edit]
As described in the _ Four dichotomies section, Isabel Myers considered the direction of the preference (for example, E vs. I) to be more important than the degree of the preference. Statistically, this would mean that scores on each MBTI scale would show a bimodal distribution with most people scoring near the ends of the scales, thus dividing people into either, e.g., an extraverted or an introverted psychological type. However, most studies have found that scores on the individual scales were actually distributed in a centrally peaked manner, similar to a normal distribution, indicating that the majority of people were actually in the middle of the scale and were thus neither clearly introverted nor extraverted. Most personality traits do show a normal distribution of scores from low to high, with about 15% of people at the low end, about 15% at the high end and the majority of people in the middle ranges. But in order for the MBTI to be scored, a cut-off line is used at the middle of each scale and all those scoring below the line are classified as a low type and those scoring above the line are given the opposite type. Thus, psychometric assessment research fails to support the concept of type, but rather shows that most people lie near the middle of a continuous curve.[8][36][44][45][46] "Although we do not conclude that the absence of bimodality necessarily proves that the MBTI developers' theory-based assumption of categorical "types" of personality is invalid, the absence of empirical bimodality in IRT-based research of MBTI scores does indeed remove a potentially powerful line of evidence that was previously available to "type" advocates to cite in defense of their position."[46]
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>>36328317
Validity and utility[edit]
The content of the MBTI scales is problematic. In 1991, a National Academy of Sciences committee reviewed data from MBTI research studies and concluded that only the I-E scale has high correlations with comparable scales of other instruments and low correlations with instruments designed to assess different concepts, showing strong validity. In contrast, the S-N and T-F scales show relatively weak validity. The 1991 review committee concluded at the time there was "not sufficient, well-designed research to justify the use of the MBTI in career counseling programs".[47] This study based its measurement of validity on "criterion-related validity (i.e., does the MBTI predict specific outcomes related to interpersonal relations or career success/job performance?)."[47] There is insufficient evidence to make claims about utility, particularly of the four letter type derived from a person's responses to the MBTI items.[8]
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>>36328272
>>36328317
>>36328345
Go away. We are happy in our ignorance.
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>>36328345

Lack of objectivity[edit]
The accuracy of the MBTI depends on honest self-reporting.[17]:52-53 Unlike some personality questionnaires, such as the 16PF Questionnaire, the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory, or the Personality Assessment Inventory, the MBTI does not use validity scales to assess exaggerated or socially desirable responses.[48] As a result, individuals motivated to do so can fake their responses,[49] and one study found that the MBTI judgment/perception dimension correlates weakly with the Eysenck Personality Questionnaire lie scale.[50] If respondents "fear they have something to lose, they may answer as they assume they should."[17]:53 However, the MBTI ethical guidelines state, "It is unethical and in many cases illegal to require job applicants to take the Indicator if the results will be used to screen out applicants."[31] The intent of the MBTI is to provide "a framework for understanding individual differences, and ... a dynamic model of individual development".[51]
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>>36328372
That's something a sensor would say.
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>>36328272
>>36328317
>>36328345
fuck off ENTP
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>>36328141

True. Despite being cold and INTP I do have feelings. Doesn't stop me from probably appearing to be autistic as fuck.
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>>36328394
>thinking you can determine type like that
No wonder you think intuition is guessing.
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>>36328384
Shows how much you know about MBTI . . . Now fuck off.
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>>36328373
Reliability[edit]
The test-retest reliability of the MBTI tends to be low. Large numbers of people (between 39% and 76% of respondents) obtain different type classifications when retaking the indicator after only five weeks.[8][45][56] In Fortune Magazine (May 15, 2013), an article titled "Have we all been duped by the Myers-Briggs Test" stated:

"The interesting - and somewhat alarming - fact about the MBTI is that, despite its popularity, it has been subject to sustained criticism by professional psychologists for over three decades. One problem is that it displays what statisticians call low "test-retest reliability." So if you retake the test after only a five-week gap, there's around a 50% chance that you will fall into a different personality category compared to the first time you took the test."
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>>36328085
We only use you like how someone uses a calculator. Why would someone do the calculations by hand when there is a calculator? We convert theory into actual useful things.

Nobody likes intuitives. Mainstream society sees them as socially awkward weirdos. Everybody wants to be sensors though.

If you actually knew what the types were of innovators and didn't just assume they were all intuitives like a brainlet then you would have a better idea of how we dominate. Steve jobs is the king of innovators and he is a sensor.
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>>36328412
>le troll
>not an ENTP
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>>36328404
You're appearing "autistic" because
- you probably have a lack of people skills
- you just are not like most people
- you turn into "automated robot explaining mode" when someone asks you a thing you know well
- you deliberately try a bit to NOT fit in
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>>36328437
INTJs troll too. You just don't even notice it most of the time.
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Please jerk off my self esteem bb
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>obsess over whether I am really INTP or not because every MBTI test I take gives me that result but can't overlook the possibility that it could be wrong, or maybe I've gotten used to subconsciously answering questions in a way that would make me get INTP - for whatever reason
>because it would be difficult to go around beliving I'm one type when I'm not even though I don't believe MBTI is flawless and rigid as people tend to view it as but a very good guideline and starting point perhaps that can reveal deeper insights about a person and their way of thinking, and social interacting
>find yet another MBTI test site
>take test
>INTP
>unlike any other site I've seen this site has further tests for clearing up mistypes
>take are you INTP or INFP test
>get this

So ultimately I believe I am indeed INTP and F just overlaps strongly sometimes, other times weakly, like I can get really emotional over some things but later logic and reason and clear thinking take over again. During periods of intense anxiety it seems F is strongest and logic takes a backseat which is when I feel most out of order and nervous, on edge and such but when I return to logically thinking my irrational fears and worries over and coming back to my senses I am at peace again.

Anyways of each test I've taken its always been INTP with the smallest gap of all functions being between between T and F, and yeah I've posted about this in the last thread as well.

I recommend that others take the (MBTI) or (MBTI) tests if they have their doubts and curiousities, they can really help you further understand and clarify your type vs. that of other types http://www.celebritytypes.com/personality-tests.php
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>be me
>ISTP
>feel nothing but anger and sadness
>can't stop day dreaming about becoming a dictator
>poetry is fucking gay but music is good
>would unironically go to war with my comrades while listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2LdF1RlSL0
>we look the coolest and dress the best
>emotions never show in public
>we always win debates since Logic > Feelings
>making a random guess, but I bet at least 85%--95% of ISTPs are right-wing
>always thinking about how to make shit work, like today i was watching a video of some guys on a being dragged on a couch by a truck, i was curious if they added wheels and tied the rope all around it if it would work better
>sometimes act like i'm in a movie

So now that ISTPs are confirmed for literally the best personality type, how do we decide which one is the worst?
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>>36328516
And this is result for just regular MBTI test
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>>36328510
I'm INTP and I piss off people like you
But it's OK, people like you piss me off

I want to hatefuck this one girl like you
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>>36328428
>We convert theory into actual useful things.
More like the intuitive writes a manual on how to do something and the sensor can (probably) follow it
>Nobody likes intuitives. Mainstream society sees them as socially awkward weirdos
Stupid sensors are frightened by anything not stupid and "normal" like them? What a surprise.
>Everybody wants to be sensors though.
Normie sensors want to be normie sensors. Again, not a surprise.
>Steve jobs is the king of innovators
Pretty sure he just copied 1960s design and sold it to many idiots. No innovation happened.
>If you actually knew what the types were of innovators and didn't just assume they were all intuitives
Most successful and well known scientists were intuitives.
>how we dominate.
Well, you don't.
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>>36328549
You sure you're not talking about ISTJs/ESTJs? It's very unlikely that you know many INTJs.
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>>36328427
Whats interesting for me is the results have remained consistent (INTP) since I first took an MBTI maybe several years ago, always get the same type, no matter if its a different test on a different site, or one year or another.
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>>36328603
it's only one girl and I piss her off a lot with my views. Quite different from everyone else but still a roastie at heart.
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>>36328428
>We only use you how someone uses a calculator.
So you use us for complex problems you can't do, because of your lack of mental capacity?

>We convert theory into actual useful things.
Like what?
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>>36328580
Being the best scientist is like being the best flute player. You're measuring by a dumb standard.
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>>36328638
xSTJs come in many different forms, not just the "beta office worker drone" stereotype
If she's always/often taking you seriously and isn't just annoyed by your autism she's probably not NT
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>>36328677
>that picture
So sensors die in stupid wars while intuitives design the weapons for the retarded sensors to kill each other with?
Who's smarter again?
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>>36328272
>>36328317
>>36328373
>>36328427
So it's pretty much

>tests are shit and have no strong scientific basis, much like any other field of psychology, doesn't necessarily renders the indicator as invalid (it says right in the fucking paragraph)
>you're fucking retarded for falling for the meems and hiring people with the best personality types
>people can't self assess for shit therefore the indicator is invalid, this is your logic here though not mine nor the article's

Did you actually read throughout all of it?
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>>36328677
>You're measuring by a dumb standard.
How? Scientists change the world.
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>>36322607
I like this comic, its the perfect way to explain MAD.

"The only winning move is not to play"
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>>36328543
Nah. ESTJ, ENTJ and ESTP are better. You're still cool though

>daydream about being a dictator
You sure you're istp?
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>>36322364
INTP with OCD here (Pure O)

The only OCD you should aim for is none at all, what hell is this.
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>>36328785
Ehhh, I don't like speaking so much public, i'd probably prefer to be second-in-command instead, maybe..

What I'm basically trying to say is, I would like to be the one pulling the strings.

And I don't think it's not normal honestly, Putin is an ISTP and Trump is an ESTP

and how is ESTJ/ENTJ/ESTP better than ISTP me?
ISTP is masterrace
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>>36321832
INTP here, can confirm this is true, any insights?
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>>36328949
It's called "being depressive"
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>>36328672
We can do complex problems if we can see a practical use for it. But we are too smart so we leave the menial work to the intuitives a lot of the time.

>Like what?
Money. Weapons.

>>36328718
If there is a war everyone gets drafted including the intuitives. The difference is the intuitives will die first.

>>36328745
Lots of things are better than being a scientist. The best innovators, the best weapons, the most successful, the best conquerors, the biggest army.

Anything a scientist makes gets judged by sensor standards. How useful is it? Even einstein is judged as being a good scientist only because what he did lead to nukes.
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I fucking love this retarded sensor/intuitive shit flinging

When do we go to war?
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>INTP
>mmmm, maybe it's bullshit
>take this >>36328516 test
>ISTP
>take the repeat
>INTP

So I take it that I rely on both my senses and intuition but ultimately rely on my intuition.

It's kind of scary how accurate this is.
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>>36329036
Never because I only "argue" with him as a joke. And to see how much more retarded his trolling can become, I love watching mentally retarded people from a safe distance.
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Exxx's allowed

They're a rare sight and provide a useful point of view in discussion, and may provide us with a new opinion on something! :D

t. INTP
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>>36329068
>merely pretending
it gets better
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>Tfw INTP's have the highest average IQ but make one of the lowest salaries.
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>>36329048
>So I take it that I rely on both my senses and intuition but ultimately rely on my intuition.
That's not how it works. Either your brain has a strong focus on Se (concrete physical shit that happens at the current time) or Ne (Future possibilities, tons of somewhat crazy abstract ideas)
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>>36328979
>We can do complex problems if we can see a practical use for it.
That means every problem you tackle is practical. Right? But why would you need an intuitive's help? It's because you can't do it by yourself. It's too complicated for you.

>But we are too smart so we leave the mental work to the intuitives a lot of the time.
This makes no sense. You are an idiot no matter what, because you said this. I really fucking hope this is bait.
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>>36320873
I'm pretty sure that blindly relying on what regions of the brain are activated isn't a very good measure of intelligence and enough to support the claim that the person ks devoid of logic and reason, for one thing its the orefrontal cortex that is associated with higher order functions and it looks to be activated in that scan, and another is that simply detecting which regions of the brain are active or inactive is not yet a fool-proof method for broad level individual analyses, for one thing activation depends on several factors such as what the subjects were instructed to do at the time of the scan, if certain brain regions had no pressing need to be used then they wouldn't be so active, and you can't really split the brain up into these precise regions and say with accuracy this does this and this handles that, we get the general overview and plot the activations but that data is meaningless because there is a lot of back and forth among different brain regions, its like blindly believing in the Left vs. Right brain dichotomy when the fact is that there is overlap between the regions and its not that one side is more dominant than the other between people.
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>>36329121
Because they realize that money is ultimately worthless and want to have intellectual "fun" instead. Uni professors don't get much money.
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>>36321832
I rely on caffeine and masturbating to keep me happy.
So basically the same but more convenient.
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>>36329130
I mean, I'm always daydreaming about what heaven is like and what it will be like the future even though it's not practical at fucking all.

I have been told that I should learn to focus on the present, so I guess I'm INTP after all
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>>36329160
But that's not enough to explain all of it. I personally think it has more so to do with our laziness and lack of ambition. Plus we probably represent a large portion of NEETs who have given up on life.
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>>36329036
Nigga please. If you go to war with sensors you will get rekt. ISTPs alone can take out all living intuitives with samurai swords.
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>>36329167
I masturbate a lot too and make up a lot of scenarios on my mind with every mildly attractive girl I know. But since it's a years old habit I don't tend to think about it. Guess we INTPs need some kind of drug to keep going.
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What if intuitives are a relatively new "type" of humans that have only been around for a few thousands of years? Certainly would explain why we have developed so much shit during them.
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>>36329130
INTP here that Ne describes it perfectly, but what about Ni, or difference between P and J?
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>>36329200
>ISTPs alone can take out all living intuitives with samurai swords.
I thought only INTJs had fedoralord accessories?
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>>36329213
intuitives are the result of millions of years of evolution. sensors are outdated monkies meant for oinga boinga time periods.
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>>36329246
fucking kek

oreganono
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>>36329202
Yeah, it sucks. Even for my happiest period of life in 12th grade, I still had to rely on caffeine everyday in the morning to give me a boost, along with the usual masturbation.
Although back then I also really enjoyed music, and could just spend time listening to it without requiring other stimuli. And to keep me from being bored, I had lots of homework to do, and it was actually somewhat enjoyable back then.
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>>36329240
>difference between P and J?
http://personalityjunkie.com/03/judging-perceiving-ijs-ips/
>but what about Ni
Just read the descriptions here:
mbti-notes.tumblr.com/theory
Keep in mind that functions work differently when they are lower/higher in the stack
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>>36329048
Nice to see that test helped >>36328516

When I was taking it it was mostly easy to spot which answers were more INTP and which more INFP oriented, but in doing so it helps you realize that you are more this type than the other even if there is overlap, as there was for me, and of course there were plenty where I felt both were relevant answers depending on context but ultimately it doesnt matter that much, its not a rigid system in anyway.
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What's with the shitflinging between intuitives and sensors? Also neither is remotely close to some sort of God figure. both have their flaws, the end.
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>>36328979
>Anything a scientist makes gets judged by sensor standards.
Yeah, but it doesn't mean that they help by determining what's useful or not. Anyone can do that. It's super fucking easy.

>Even Einstein is judged as being a good scientist only because what he did lead to nukes.
No, he changed the way we perceive gravity, light and many other things. Nobody gives a shit about nukes.
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>>36329153
It's like expecting steve jobs to code every piece of software himself. Somebody needs to be the slave.

I wrote "menial work" not "mental work"

>>36329157
This is exactly something a brainlet who couldn't use logic or reason would write.

>>36329246
When ISTPs do it it's cool. When INTJs do it it's fedora. Learn the difference.
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>>36329326
It's just memeing. At least I HOPE the sensor is not serious.
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>>36321215

whoever wrote the text for that image is literally retarded in their brains
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>>36329213
Now the real question is "Do intuitives have higher IQ than sensors because we are intuitives, or are we inuitives because we have higher IQ?"
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>>36329328
Sensors are the ones doing menial work, because they can hardly handle anything complex.
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>>36329328
>This is exactly something a brainlet who couldn't use logic or reason would write.
Sounds like you didn't understand anything he said so you think it's automatically "stupid".
Also Steve jobs was a salesman for the stupid, not an innovator of any type.
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>>36329200
>samurai swords

le nippon steel
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>>36329370
The big chunk of text was written by a sensor who thought he was "funny" but only showed that he was retarded. lel.
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>>36329328
I'm using logic and reason to deduce that its not so simple to gauge someones cognitive skill set based on such brain scanning alone, especially when not all regions of the brain have been perfectly mapped out to the utmost degree as to their specific function, nor is the human brain model so simplistic and straightforward that this arbitrary region correlates to this cognitive function as the graph claims.

Furthermore the pic states incorrectly that all thinking areas of the brain are located in the inner region, that is a false statement, the prefrontal cortex is in the front, and you can see it is active in both scans, the pic just seems like a poor attempt to shit on a type based off of a misunderstanding of how brain regions work.

I'd like to see data from actual neuroscientists that show evidence for each brain region divided so correlating to each specific cognitive skill otherwise I have no choice but to dismiss the image as irrelevant garbage.
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>>36329314
it's a very very tight spot though.

I'm 53% INTP and 47% ISTP

I guess I flip-flop between them for some reason, I don't really know why
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>>36329327
>No, he changed the way we perceive gravity, light and many other things.
No nobody gives a shit about that. Everybody cares about the nukes. Get out of your intuitive autism bubble.

>>36329357
>being so out of touch with reality that you can't see you are a lower form of life

>>36329373
It's been proven that intuitives are dumber.

>>36329384
Sensors do what's relevant. Intuitives do what's superfluous.

>>36329398
He was just butthurt and his ego was trying to dodge the damage. Steve jobs is recognized as the best innovator of all time. It must burn you to know that.
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>>36329489
Flip flop and overlap is probably common among the inner two functions I speculate, and less so with the outer two.

I dont know for sure though but its a hunch.
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>>36329357
I really hope he's memeing, but he's putting a lot of effort into pretending to be retarded
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>>36329499
>bug collector brain

made me laugh really hard but I'm not sure why
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>visit any MBTI "community"
>it's almost exclusively mistyped sensor "intuitives" who share their super interesting daily life experiences

Ironically socionics seems to be much better for seeing/describing how people of certain types work, since they don't seem to use many stupid stereotypes
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>>36329499
>>36320873
>inner areas are logic and reason centers
>inner area of brain is reptillian center and amygdala

What did the sensor meme by this?
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>>36329499
>No nobody gives a shit about that.
Pretty sure anything that requires precise clocks does, e.g. satellite shit
>It's been proven that intuitives are dumber.
>Steve jobs is recognized as the best innovator of all time.
By whom?
>It must burn you to know that.
Anon, if everyone tells you how retarded you are, do you still believe that you're the "genius" and everyone else is stupid?
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>>36329535
>sensor "intuitives" who share their super interesting daily life experiences

are sensors normies?
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>>36329499

>it's been proven that intuitives are dumber

cite your sources son, this shit is taught in third grade
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>>36329610
Usually yes, but they can be anons too
Just visit /b/ or any other normalfag board, or the "tfw no gf" and incel ones here
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>>36329499
Wozniak did more than Jobs, Jobs was the face of the company and the person who all the companies achivements are attributed to broadly but he didn't do as much as Wozniak.

Same with Elon Musk and Space X, its his team of engineers and flight controllers that landed the boosters, that control the spacecraft, yet most of their achivements are attributed to Musk and the ignorant public assume he is himself a scientist and working alone on all this stuff Space X is doing.

>it takes a villiage
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>>36329661
Well, Musk actually does know shit, unlike Jobs.
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>>36327102
INFP is the literal cuckhold of personality types. Prove me wrong.
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>>36329499
The most practical thing I can think of is electricity. Specifically alternating current. It was made by an intuitive. An INTJ actually. Nikola Tesla. We wouldn't be talking if it weren't for intuitives.
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>>36329677
Not saying he doesn't but he alone won't get Dragon to Mars. But he is the public face of the company.
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>>36329680
I mostly meant it as INTP being great, no, it's not, I'm INTP and my relationships are shit
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>>36329681
Tesla is INTJ? I would think he was more INTP but then again I dont know enough about the differences between P and J functions.
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>>36329680
More like total failures who mistype as INFPs.
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>>36322607

Same

The only thing tertiary Fi has given me as an INTJ is some idealistic vision which isnt attainable irl, and the ability to get butthurt easier than Feeling inferior types get
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>>36329723
He's more of a J than a P. The only difference between the two is whether they plan things out or not.
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>>36329762
>using "J" vs "P"directly for introverts
Anon...

http://personalityjunkie.com/03/judging-perceiving-ijs-ips/
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>Be the dude that got the overlap between INTP and ISTP
>realize that ISTP is the sociopath/warrior outside of his time type

no... just no. I mean, I have pretty sociopathic behaviors but I'm not a sociopath... right? Does getting a girl to send you nudes even though you feel nothing for her count as "sociopathy"?
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>>36329757
If all the depressed people mistype as INFP doesn't that validate it as worst type?

It's like the containment board of MBTI
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>>36329820
Not if being INFP means having strong positive and negative feelings, and mistypes think they are strong feelers but are just full of negative ones so type as INFP
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>>36322751
Fuuuuck
>years ago some stupid fucking shit in high school about "what does the moon represent/mean to you" on post it notes and others will read them out loud
>everyone writes meme answers like mystery, love, or typical emotional and poetic stuff
>write down something like it represents inspiration for humanity (Apollo 11) and a future stepping stone on the way to Mars as well as a potential future colonization goal
>the dumbfounded expression on the person who read my post it and the class in general

I just dont understand
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>>36329808
>>36329723
My bad. It looks like this other anon is right.I thought the last letter was something else.
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>>36329853
>strong positive and negative feelings
Yeah but you never see any positivity in them. Even if the ones being negative are the mistyped ones where are actual INFPs that should be balancing everything out with positivity?
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>>36329818
No, it just means your gay

t. ISTP
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>>36329762
Hmm, I'm INTP and dont usually plan things out, but sometimes I do, I generally hate structure but sometimes its beneficial but not often enough, too rigid most of the time
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>>36329915
The ones who end here are probably depressed so the end result is similar to mistypes

But all of this doesn't have to mean that most of them are sad emos in real life
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>>36315122
>tfw always though of myself as ENTP
>suddenly discover that in fact I am more of INTJ
Good afternoon, fellow sperglords. How are you doing this wonderful day?
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>>36329818
Im an ISTP and I've never done anything like that. I think you're just a fucking psychopath
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>>36329818
>>36330164
my fellow ISTP brothers, are we the only MBTI type that has actually gotten pussy on all of R9K?


What makes women so attracted to ISTPs?
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>>36330162
>suddenly discover that in fact I am more of INTJ
Are you sure about that?
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>>36330199
I wish it wasnt. Now I am officially the part of the MBTI suicide trio.
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>>36330282
Do you relate to Si or Ni more here?
>>
>be ISTP
>fall behind one year in school because every school system is retarded
>get put into independent study
>only have to go to a class once a week
>you can do all the work at home
>for each quiz, you could just google the answers
>got like 5-6 quizes done in 15 minutes and got like 100% on each one

Feels good to me an ISTP indeed
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>>36330690
So you were too retarded for school and got the chance to not learn anything and used it?
Oh boi
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>>36320447
too bad Fi users are dumb faggots
>>
What's the worst type?
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>>36330352
No, its more Ni then Si, unfortunately. And, to be honest, do not enjoy being an INTJ. Trust me. I like ENTP-s and ESTJ-s much more, and I unironically though of me like ENTP, just like edgy teen believes that he's INTJ. But objective reality is disappointing as always. I hate being a p*ssy with big world inside, and just await for death, like INTP-s and INFP-s, but yet I cant do a thing with myself. Being an INTJ is actually just as much suffering, as other robot-tier personalities above.
And man, I see what is going on. You're thinking, that I just enjoy to appear as another part of le edgy INTJ meme, and so on you seek your own actualization in form of trying to derail my position into trash. But the thing is, that 4chan is a wrong place to climb on social hierarchy for achieving satisfaction of defeating opponents. No one will ever remember you or me. Go back to plebbit, pussy
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>>36330690
The only bigger meme than high school is non STEM uni
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>>36330894
Nah, i just want to help you type yourself accurately because i found it helpful too. And I have to agree, "socializing" as an INTJ is fucking difficult, we'll never be seen as normies unless we act like them, which is fucking boring and painful
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>>36330961
In this field, I'd have to disagree. Its not always boring, but most of the time it certainly isnt the thing I enjoy. Although, in some occasions, I enjoy taking initiative and doing the things just because of the current mood, thats why I mistyped mistype myself from INTJ to ENTP. Although, I share more traits from ENTP then from INTJ, but Ni-dom describes me much better. Or maybe, I just have bipolar and instead of falling for therapist-jew, I should kill myself. I feel myself as a failure in any case.
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>>36329680
>cuckhold

orgy
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