I think my stepson is addicted to methadrone. Anyone here use it? How can I know for sure? He has most of the symptoms of use, but I want confirmation before I talk to him about it. He's just a kid and needs help.
i may be a socially and sexually deprived neet.
but i aint no snitch
I'm not memeing, want to help him.
>>36091540
It's killing him. Please, anyone.
Thanks Doc.orinigal
>>36091570
If it would be really killing him and you would really would want to help him, you would not be asking on 4chan.
So I call bait on this one
>>36091689
It doesn't matter anyway because there wouldn't be any outward physical signs that would distinguish a mephedrone user from someone who goes out and parties all the time, or someone who sits in front of a computer for 20 hours at time whacked out on stimulants. If OP was for real, the only way they'd know is to find the kid's stash or other tell-tale signs, empty capsules/button bags, etc. and then all that proves is they're probably taking drugs, not mephedrone specifically.
>>36091689
Where should I ask then? On some mom blog, where nobody knows what it is? I figure some anon has done it, and could help. I'm 99% sure after five years that this is what he's addicted to, I just want a little confirmation because it's scary. Either way he's going to treatment.
>>36091514
>stepson
kek
>>36091570
your stepson is addicted to being a fag
>>36091810
>Where should I ask then?
I dont know. If only there where medical professionals you could contact who would be able to give you advices on this issue
>>36091759
What about the smell? He has a stinky chemical smell, like a homeless guy- stale b.o. and crusty feet and chemicals is how I'd describe it. It's a weird smell that isn't just b.o.
>>36091852
I'm sending him to treatment, but it will take a month to get him in where we live. I don't think his pediatrician would be familiar with the symptoms and it doesn't show up on drug tests. I have a month to deal with this alone basically until I can get him help.
>>36091860
>>36091913
>stepson
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One question I have: do kids still do methadrone? It was banned in the US in 2011. Pretty much no one has been arrested fot it in our state since 2011.
>>36091913
I have a sister like you.
She would always 'worry' about me smoking a j on weekends.
Its fucking annoying.
Talk to him and ask him if he thinks that he has controll over it.
Dont overreact
>>36092489
>Dont overreact
ha! Um, no, it's not just a joint. He doesn't have 'control' over it. I don't even know if I'll try talking to him about it. What's the point? Probably just try to get him into treatment soon as possible.
>>36093037
You're not his real dad so it doesn't matter what you say
>>36092163
its been a few years since I have been in the drug scene but I never even saw it marketed as such. It was always sold as molly. I would imagine that still goes on, although maybe on a lesser scale.
>>36093070
Haha good one.
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>>36093162
>Haha good one.
I'm not even joking
Ask a doctor to test him for methadone. They can test for it, but its one of the things you have to ask is in their system for their own safety. Otherwise its not going to typically show up.
>>36093151
>Methadone
>Molly
>>36092489
>ask a junkie if he """thinks""" he has control over himself
jesus christ drug users are fucking retarded
>>36091514
>he needs help
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>>36093151
I've seen his fb posts about it, and he calls it drone or meow meow. I didn't understand what he meant until I figured out it was mephadrone yesterday. He's been doing it for 5 years. I thought it was meth maybe but he didn't seem roughed up/jittery enough to be on that.
>>36091514
Post a pic of your boobs and a time stamp, please.
>>36093243
Thanks, I will.
Original
>>36093288
>implying choice of anything exists
No one is in control of anything.
>>36091913
Lmao "get him help" what the fuck is your problem? My mother was the same way as you, and guess what happened? I cut off all contact with her, and we haven't spoken in over eight years. If you're going to do something, just be sure that you're fully prepared for the consequences - all of them, no matter what they may be.
>>36093519
We have a good relationship. Gonna dry him out over and over now til it sticks then throw him in community college for a useful trade.
>>36093379
No problem, hopefully everything works out for ya.
>>36091514
Also from what I've been reading of your posts OP, he's on Mephredrone, especially if its being called Meow Meow. Get him off that shit now before he ends up hurting himself. But at least try and talk to him first, don't want him to end up like the shitbag below.
I've done drugs, I admit, I'm a junkie (or was depending on however you want to phrase it), get him off Mephredrone. If something doesn't work, try going to North Carolina, you can legally sign up someone to rehab there against their will. Might want to look into a place called Stepping Stone in Jacksonville, FL. They're pretty good. I can't guarantee success, turnover rates are pretty bad, especially if your kid doesn't want to quit then he'll relapse like I had in the past. Either way, they're a good Rehab looking to help.
>>36093519
>REEEEE MOTHER WHY WONT YOU LET ME DESTROY MYSELF
I've been to rehab and back more times you can imagine kid. Your mother was right to do the things she was trying to do. She loves you whether you want to admit it or not. You just have a fucking problem.
>>36093037
I guarantee you that he will resent you for the rest of his life if you do this. I'm not even memeing you. Not only will you LITERALLY ruin his life by doing this (good luck to him getting any kind of decent job, or having doctors look at him as anything other than a druggie for the rest of his life [including going so far as to not provide him painkillers when he's FUCKING DYING - I'm not even kidding. Doctors literally do this in the USA. It's beyond fucked], no one will give him any respect, and he will be forced to live in your basement for the rest of his life because he can't get into college or get any decent jobs), but you're overreacting. Stimulants are easy as fuck (comparably, from everything I've seen) to quit cold turkey. Withdrawals are almost entirely mental. He probably isn't even addicted, though. If he is, it's an easy quick-fix AT HOME, no doctors or records needed. If he isn't addicted, all the more reason to just fucking chill and let a kid be a kid. Fuck, I guarantee you're some kind of helicopter step-parent who feels inadequate, so you feel like you need to do oh so much and be so goddamn (over)involved. Please. I promise you, things will go better if you handle this within the family. Shit, if you're serious, I'd even be willing to email you and help walk you through this, so long as you DON'T fuck up his life, practically force him to end up fucking hating and resenting you for the rest of his life, and ruining any of his chances at a decent life. Fuck, I just know your type, and I feel so bad for him. YOU'RE probably the reason why he has the emotional void necessitating he take drugs.
>>36091514
I'm confused
Do you mean mephedrone or methadone?
I'm guessing the former what with the OP pic, but you need to learn to spell properly to get proper advice.
>>36093642
I think so too. Thanks for confirming. I'm gonna do everything I can for him. Our state is pretty good when it comes to treatment. Gonna get him off this shit, graduate high school and learn a skill so he can be happy and 'make success!' It's a relief to finally know what he's on after all these years.
>>36093748
MePHadrone.
>>36091927
>>stepson
Aka my Wife's son you fucking cuck
>>36093719
I'm this guy >>36093642
As I said been to rehab tons and I've got an quite a few things on my record, ranging from misdemeanors to felonies. I can get a job just fine that is decent and pays well. As for doctor's yeah, they'll be weary in the US on something like that, but it doesn't matter anyways, states are starting to pass laws that you're only to be given painkillers for a total of 3 days now.
I'm not saying the kid will end up not hating him, but its not going to screw up his life. With that said, Mephredrone (which is what his kid is on) is pretty fucking bad. I've seen people on the shit before do some nasty ass shit to their own bodies. Whether he's addicted or not its not good to be on that shit, and I was on Heroin.
>>36093243
As you can see we are not talking about methadone.
>>36093825
My husband's son, so i guess reverse cuck if that's possible.
>>36091514
>stepson
You got the wrong board, buddy. /adv/ is three blocks down.
>>36093773
I'll be honest with you OP, considering how long you said he's been on it and the fact that he's still trying to hide it at least somewhat. Getting him to quit is gonna be a bitch. Forcing him isn't gonna help either, talk to him first before anything else. If he still doesn't you're gonna have to force him to rehab one way or the other.
>>36093850
Tell us about your breasts and colostrum. Are you infertile or something? When did you first notice the pure white snow leaking from your nipples?..
>>36091860
your stepson may have diabetes, get him help
>>36093642
>Admitting someone to rehab against their will
And I'm the shitbag lmao. You just assume that she's in the right because moms must always be correct, right!? She had mental issues and was incredibly unstable all throughout my childhood, including physically attacking me multiple times. There's a reason I turned to drugs.
>REEEEEE STRAWMAN STRAWMAN STRAWMAN
Drugs saved my life, you shitbag. They prevented me from killing myself due to the hellish conditions all throughout my "home" life. Thankfully, I was 18 by the time she discovered my use, and so she couldn't force me into anything (though she certainly did try lmao. She threatened me with homelessness, calling the police on me, attempting to have me involuntarily committed thanks to her judge friend, etc.). However, I've kept up my moderate use of a technically legal, inexpensive, easily obtained online "drug" which is a better anti-depressant than anything offered by the medical community. It has helped my life more than I can ever say, but you just immediately assume that anyone using any kind of drug at all, whatsoever and with no exceptions is about to or trying to destroy his life. LMAO. Fucking ridiculous. I see you've been wholly brainwashed by NA, such a disgusting fucking organization.
>You have no control over your actions or agency.
>Surrender to a higher power because that totally works, guys!!
Meanwhile rehabs have relapse rates upwards of 90%. Huh. It's almost like they DON'T FUCKING WORK, and that a different approach is needed. You're fucking scum, right alongside the rest of your NA/AA buddies. Die.
I unironically hope that Christianity is correct and that you (and they) burn in Hell for all eternity. I'm not even joking.
>>36093288
>someone who takes drugs is instantly a junkie
>he still believes that a reasonable person can control its alcohol usage.
>>36093973
Holy dog balls, are you fucking assmad or what?
Take a chill pill, my dude. Or maybe just shoot some filthy street dope and suffocate, junkie scum.
>>36093973
>And I'm the shitbag lmao. You just assume that she's in the right because moms must always be correct, right!? She had mental issues and was incredibly unstable all throughout my childhood, including physically attacking me multiple times. There's a reason I turned to drugs.
No, I don't assume she's right just because she's your mother and she may have been a shitbag to you as well. But she was still trying to get you help.
>Drugs saved my life
Sure they did, unless you're just on some piddly weed. Wanna know what happened to a lot of the people I used to roll with? Most of them are dead. Some were shot over drugs, some OD'd. Others sure, they're still kicking, assuming a couple of them are scratching scabs off their body constantly in a den somewhere. But yeah, their lives are totally saved. As for NA, that had nothing to do with. My path was either get off the drugs or end up dead. I'll take the former any day of the week.
>Meanwhile rehabs have relapse rates upwards of 90%. Huh. It's almost like they DON'T FUCKING WORK, and that a different approach is needed. You're fucking scum, right alongside the rest of your NA/AA buddies. Die.
I unironically hope that Christianity is correct and that you (and they) burn in Hell for all eternity. I'm not even joking.
Yeah, they have bad turnover rates, I'll agree with you there and that usually it takes several rehabs before people get it through their damn skulls. You're also right, I am scum and I'm probably going to hell. but I sure as shit wouldn't wish my life on anybody else. The OP clearly cares for her kid unlike your own mother or my parents or whoever. As for NA/AA, don't even go to those.
Now for your other little comment, you clearly need some help. The way you're reacting, your home life, and the fact that you're getting this upset that you wish some random anon trying to help because he's been there and back again. You need help man, drugs or not.
>>36094041
There is a huge difference between Alcohol and Mephredrone. Its like saying "Weed doesn't hurt you, its harmless". No dipshit its still smoke in your lungs, sure its not Cigs, but shit still isn't good for you. Whether you take drugs in moderation or not its still doing harm to your body.
>>36093288
I'm sorry you've only known complete retards in your life, anon.
>>36093836
>Legislation limiting painkillers to only three days
FUCKING HA. If that gets passed, I'm going to go (ironically, of course, totally not srs nip moot) beat the shit out of all the legislators who passed it, and then ensure that they're only allowed three days of painkillers. Fucking cunts. How about they let doctors - people who are literally trained and educated for years and years on the subject - make the decisions? But no, some legislators who have absolutely /zero/ idea how modern medicine works, know nothing about human anatomy, and have probably never even fucking heard of biochemistry decide how medicines can be used. Sounds like a great fucking idea which could absolutely never go wrong or backfire at all, under any circumstances.
Fuck this gay Earth. Trump/Putin/Assad/The Jews can't start WWIII soon enough.
>>36094167
>FUCKING HA. If that gets passed, I'm going to go (ironically, of course, totally not srs nip moot) beat the shit out of all the legislators who passed it
Sure you will. Also its already being passed in Kentucky at this rate. The reason for it is because painkillers are such a bad thing in the US.
>>36093175
But you are an original idiot
>>36094129
>drugs are bad for you
Thanks sherlock!
Its not like every non-retarded person knows that.
Its something we are willing to take into account to feel good.
But yeah if you loose control and take too much too fast and high dosages, it will kill you.
>>36094069
I am mad, because this stepmother, largely uneducated on the subject, is about to risk, or at least severely hinder, her stepson's chances at a decent life, and it reminded me of my own fucked up childhood. A mephedrone addiction is obviously not a good thing, and I'd support his getting off of it, but she needs to go about it in the right way.
>>36094085
I don't inject drugs because obviously that's a terrible idea. I only use oral morphine - that's all I have used, and all I will use. I don't need to worry about switching to any other ROAs because it costs me less than $1USD/day. And of course I need help. I've had an incredibly fucked up life. Why do you think I'm self-medicating? But I'm already getting it. I've been consistently going to therapy (not that it's helped any), and I probably will continue to because what the fuck else would I do? I just don't want this kid's life ruined, nor do I want his family relationships to be ruined when I feel there's a good chance for them to be maintained and/or salvaged. That's not a bad thing.
>>36094188
Of course I'm not actually going to. I -LITERALLY- said exactly that in the fucking post.
>Kentucky
Lol we'll see how that turns out, then. This should be good.
>>36094167
>>36094188
Look I work in this field, I'm an attorney for the medical board in a southern state. Each state is gonna have its own laws, but generally speaking the direction it's moving in is limiting the number of days that can be Rxed outside of certain exceptions (chronic pain due to cancer, etc). What they are really trying to tamp down on are people showing up at the ER looking to get pills, and lazy post-op Rxing, like giving someone 90 Percocet after pulling a tooth or excising a cyst.
The laws are overly restrictive and these sorts of limits are not the best way to approach the issue, but at the same time a lot of people game the shit out of doctors and the system so the govt is sorta between a rock and a hard place. If you've got some recognized chronic health issue you will still be able to get your opiates if your state changes its laws. You might have to deal with some paperwork or find a new doc, but you'll get them eventually. If you're getting duragesic patches, oxy 30s and xanax bars for your "back pain" and you're 25 years old you will be SOL.
>>36094264
You're right injecting is a horrible idea. Morphine isn't great either man, cheap or not. Look I'm legit not trying to tell you all drugs are bad. Most psychedelics are fine, ya know barring shit like mescaline, but man I've seen too much in my life to watch other people go through the same stuff or even similar stuff at this point. I get you use it for self-medication, I did the same thing, but man all that NA/AA bullshit aside (which I agree is bad it doesn't work, but finding something to help no matter what it is, God, Art, Cooking, w/e) does help.
I get you're looking out for the kid too, but sometimes and I hate to say it, sometimes being forced into rehab works. I kept getting forced into rehab, 14 times total. Until I finally just broke down and didn't want to spend the rest of my life in a rehab. Obviously it doesn't work for everyone in that respect. Yeah, that family life may be screwed up afterwards and maybe never get repaired, but sometimes drastic measures do have to be taken. Especially on mephredrone. I remember a kid, like 14-15, he wasn't very old. He'd hang out with one of my dealers quite often, big gangbanger. Went to go pick up a supply of coke to sell and some heroin. Had to go to another friends house, apparently the kid had gotten so fucked on mephredrone he cut one of his fingers off.
Maybe OP's stepson can handle it and does it in moderation, I don't know. I just don't want to see kids on certain drugs these days anymore. Ya know weed or psychedelics (assuming you don't do anything too stupid, had a friend jump out a window on salvia once, thankfully it was a first floor window), but, just certain shit especially, not good man.
>>36094370
It's better for an exorbitant number of drug-seekers to get an Rx than it is for a """1st world""" country to allow a single person in excruciating pain to suffer a life of agony because >lol someone might try to get high so I can't prescribe you medicine necessary in order to make your quality of life rise above 'a hellscape from my worst nightmares' for a little while >try an Advil dude, they totally work!!1!
Fuck that. The people who facilitate that are the absolute closest this world will see to pure evil outside of actual genocidal maniacs
>>36094474
If you've got some terrible health problem you will get medication, no doctor is gonna refuse to write for someone with cancer or who broke their back in a car accident. If you've got fibromyalgia or some other difficult-to-quantify condition, well, I'm sorry. The United States consumes like 90% of the world's opiates. As a society we need to take a different approach to pain management. Other first world countries don't use pills like we do. It's regrettable that some people have to live in chronic pain, but there are huge social costs that go along with widespread opiate abuse and restricting the supply of them is the closest tool at hand. It's not perfect and hopefully won't be a long-term solution, but until we change the way we treat pain it's the best we've got.
>>36094431
What's wrong with mescaline? Honestly curious lol
And yeah, I do understand that. I have my hobbies, and they help a lot. However, at this point, I honestly don't even get high anymore. I've maintained the same dose for the past year, and (so far, at least) the only negative physical side effect is constipation lol. Honestly, I get that it's not great for everyone. But for me, it is, or at least it has been. Like I said, I don't use it to get high, I simply use it to ensure that I don't jump off a bridge while I'm crossing it, or fill my pockets with rocks and walk into the lake I'm passing on a walk. It lets me actually live some kind of a life. The way I see it, it's no different than getting a prescription for an antidepressant (except that this one actually works lmao, and with almost no side effects!), but mine isn't socially acceptable.
But yeah, you do have a point. Sometimes I forget that not everyone is lucky enough to have safe, cheap, (mostly) legal access like I do. Additionally, not everyone is as responsible as I am now (though I was admittedly much less responsible in the beginning of my use), and so their use may very well be extremely negative to them, as well as those around them, meaning it may very well be better for them to be forced into rehab. I'm sorry, I'm really irritable right now because I haven't slept in like a day (I've also had insomnia for as long as I can remember - to the point where I can go for days at a time without sleeping; the morphine also helps with that. Honestly, my life would genuinely be hell without it), and so I'm not really thinking clearly. And it also does depend very much on his age. OP said he's been doing this for years, meaning he may have started as early at 13, or even earlier, which would be INCREDIBLY fucked up, not to mention what it'd do to him neurochemically. Coming off of it's gonna be rough. I forgot that mephedrone is substantially different from 'normal' stimulants.
>>36094684
And yet the government attempted (and succeeded in some areas) to schedule kratom - a painkiller with almost none of the risks of other opioids, except apparently addiction according to some people who I shouldn't call pussies but whom I am going to call pussies lmao. And marijuana remains schedule 1. Fuck, schedule 1 is inherently dishonest because literally every drug has SOME kind of medical use, but because these are recreational, they're apparently oh so evil. No, the government only cares about giving kickbacks to corporations, especially large pharmaceutical ones.
>>36091514
A drug test you retarded nig
>>36094746
Mescaline? Its not addictive or anything it just doesn't take much to get to lethal levels. Though anybody doing that much mesc needs help.
At least you're using it healthily man and not abusing it. I mean I'm not gonna fault you for trying to use it as an anti-depressant. I've just seen too many people go down that path and in my experience, never ended up well.
And yeah, mephredrone is fucked, one of the few drugs I didnt mess with when I was younger, shits not good. But really, I wish the best for you and the OP's kid, I really do.
>>36094824
Well yes, that's the world we live in. If you don't like it, do something about it.
>>36094842
Ahhh, okay! Thank you!
Thanks, I appreciate it. I totally understand that. The vast majority of people seem to escalate their use, but thankfully my current use is very fulfilling, whilst remaining sustainable and safe.
I've never tried it, or heard much about it, really haha. And again, sorry for what I said earlier, as well as how I acted. Irritability from lack of sleep, as I said. I obviously take it back, and wish you the best as well.
>>36094991
Lmao like what, exactly? Unfortunately, our world is inescapably corrupt due to the nature of humanity.
>>36095108
Its no problem man, I'm completely fine barring a few random drugs of people doing in moderation and keeping it that.
Also don't worry about it, I've had people come at me much harder, its no big deal. Get some sleep though man.