Fallout New Vegas Quest: Empire of One P 27

You have allowed the Brotherhood Reavers to analyze and copy your BigMT Augments in exchange for the following gifts personally to you.

>>1816138
>Hover Bikes - A hoverbike with small rocket propulsion capabilities,used by both the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel and in greater numbers by the East Coast Brotherhood of Steel.

>Brotherhood Midwestern Power Armor - Built to be superior to the old Paladin Version, and made specifically for mass production from classified facilities.

>Echo-Boy - These special detection devices improve the ability to detect large concentrations of metal, which can be used both for salvaging opertions and for defense

>Vault Water Purifier + Chips (Blueprints): Vault sized Water Purification Filters. It isn't enough to filter whole rivers or lakes, but can sustain Vault sized populations. Effectively one of these should work for your population at BigMT

ALERT!

The new Medium Steel Mill and assorted factories have passively produced 12 new Loader Squads

BigMT has exhausted ALL its Scrap Steel and Fissile Material.

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STATS HERE

>BIG MT
https://pastebin.com/jAXYFRB1

>THE NURSERY
https://pastebin.com/ic3ac1xL

I'm transitioning to Pastebin Stats. Personallly, they're harder to navigate than posting on 4chan but sort of necessary otherwise the thread would be bloated.

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An additional town has upped your action cap!

4 Action Cap.

Available Actions: Civilian, Construction, Military, Research, ZAX, Hero
+Robotic Research does not count toward cap.
+Biological Research does not count toward cap
>>>>>Turn: 116

>>1816408
We were also going to go home, stopping to pick up a missionary and drop off the chickens at Utah.

>>1816424
>Hero.
Assuming we've already gone home.
-Go bach to New Cannan to learn more about Christianity and to bring back a Missionary.
-Go deliver a teleporter to the Nursery as detailed in >>1815125 Bring space saucer parts.
Anything else anons want to add?
>Civ.
Gather Steel and Fissile.
>Construction.
Start constructing a large solar farm/tower.
>Military.
I dunno.
>ZAX.
Support construction of the large solar farm/tower.
>Robot research.
Research Spiderbots, they should be able to climb and cling to vertical surfaces and can camouflage themselves.
>Biological research.
Better plants for subterranean farming.

ALERT!

Also this month is founding day

>>1816451
Alright, add
-Celebrate founding day.
To our Hero action.
Can't believe i forgot that.

>>1816450
Millitary
-Parade?

Qm We have an excess of Brahmin, how about a Festival / Feast type thing?

>>1816460
Add Parade to our military action please QM.

>>1816424
>Hero.
Assuming we've already gone home.
-Go back to New Cannan to learn more about Christianity and to bring back a Missionary.
-Go deliver a teleporter to the Nursery as detailed in >>1815125 → Bring space saucer parts.
-celebrate founding day
>construct
engineering HQ
>civ
gather metal and fissile

>ZAX research
tunnelers- incorporate the echoboy plans if need be
>research
neurological research that the followers wanted
>Biological research.
Better plants for subterranean farming.

https://pastebin.com/GMfdS7Z3

List of things we have to do for big things.

Hold it right their faggots. What about the long range satellite and building of this long range satellite?

If we want to get that Mass fusion we should get going with this.

>>1816460
>Qm We have an excess of Brahmin, how about a Festival / Feast type thing?
Everyone would like that

>>1816473
The Nursery apparently has a Coms Sat.
QM can that Com Sat reach the commonwealth?

>>1816476
Qm are we a go for second construction action or do we still need to put in work for it?

To anon from last thread that was asking about Pastebin that I apparently missed here it is https://pastebin.com/Q6p6Zymr Bear in mind its pretty outdated. Ive been spending too much time at work to keep it updated.

>>1816476
Alright, let's do that.

>>1816450
Altering this slightly.

>>1816424 #
>HERO
Assuming we've already gone home.
- Start a chicken farm with our eggs
-Go bach to New Cannan to bring back a Missionary and give copies of our book.
-Go deliver a teleporter to the Nursery as detailed in >>1815125 → # Bring space saucer parts.
- Celebrate Founding day with family

>CIV
Gather Steel and Fissile from Divide via train.

>CONSTRUCTION
>ZAX
Assist the ZAX's auto-effort to get a second construction action.

>MILITARY
Surround the large glowing section of the Divide with our forces. Set up multiple kill zones with tank/artillery cover. Use our new supermutant troops to lure out the irradiated beasts sporadically to be killed.

>Robot research.
Continue tunelling robot research. Maybe by incorporating a flat disinitgration field on the front, we could make digging easier

>Biological research.
Better plants for subterranean farming.

>Passive production
Construction Loaders

>>1816473
We do have Diana's satellite right now, but cold fusion is closer and easier to get then the slogg in the commonwealth. Right in the divide infact. Once the tunneler is done we can go in, disable the defenses and suborn whatever technology they have. Even just pluggin into the grid that powers the emp rockets woul;d be a bounty.

>>1816489
support this actually.

We should let the Mormons handle the chicken farm. They have the ecology for it.

>>1816489
God dammit i forgot passive production!

>>1816490
My sweet Anon just think of the IC reasons to go to the Commonwealth. It something our hero can do next turn

>>1816489
Ill support this. Can we tack on >>1816476
to it?

>>1816489
Supporting.
Speaking of the Commonwealth, how many turns until the start of Fallout 4 QM?

>>1816499
That depends
>They think I'm going to confirm or deny any deviations to the timeline

>>1816489
This with getting some beef.


I'm going to be a unhappy Anon if we keep waiting to build the satellite to go visit the Commonwealth

>>1816499
Less than a year

>>1816503
Oh yeah, Arthur is King, not Elder, things are going differently.

>>1816499
But if I recall correctly, the game begins in a year and a bit.

>>1816503
Oh.
Well then, we're gonna have to go there as soon as possible.
Can you please answer >>1816485

>>1816485
>Diana
"Yes, bar any sort of jamming or interference though it is attuned to very specific frequencies."

>>1816489
Roll me 3 1d100s!

Rolled 91 (1d100)

>>1816526

>>1816523
Next turn then!

Rolled 28 (1d100)

>>1816526

Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>1816526
Nat 100

>>1816526
OP, give us more detailed info of the new power armor

>>1816528
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

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>>1816489
>>CIV
>Gather Steel and Fissile from Divide via train.
With what robots are left in the divide, Huge amounts of steel are gathered as well as some fissile. Now making their way in the same turn to BigMT!

>Robot research.
>Continue tunelling robot research. Maybe by incorporating a flat disinitgration field on the front, we could make digging easier

>CEO
"Vehicles"

>MAJOR
"Soldiers"

>CEO
"Vehicles."

>MAJOR
"Soldiers!"

>CEO
"Vehicles!"

>MAJOR
"SOLDIERS!"

And the debate goes on, but so does research.

A pure disintegration drill wasn't feasible as it tended to also disintegrate the disintegrator at point blank, however, disintegration to help clear away debris and soil proved a major step forward.

The first prototype of a maneuverable medium sized drill robot is complete! It can crawl on four legs, and drill from point a to point b. It can dig through soft sand best, and through rock very slowly (and only forwards) but its pure proof of concept.

But still the issue of communications. For now, it must be pre-programed with set orders until it can surface again.

>>1816563
I want vehicles. I see z transport APC that drills up from the dirt and spews out a squad of men.

Then we can get something with a little firepower, for clearing rats from tunnels..

>>1816563
Alright, next turn we research the Echo-Boy, mostly how to make more and if we can make it detect unmined metal.

>>1816574
We have the plans presumably. So we can incorporate them into the tunnelers for navigation.

>>1816563
Is the Brotherhood power armor Superior to power armor we have currently?

Or is it just very good power armor that can be made?

Anyone have any ideas how to fix the Subterranean communications?

>>1816591
Short of stringing up wire behind the tunneler, not really.

>>1816591
Throw more research at it.

>>1816598
Guess well have to go with my subterranean messenger bots idea.

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>>1816489
>>Biological research.
>Better plants for subterranean farming.
Diana reluctantly agree's to do research for you. She's still not 100% on board with the idea, but really can't resist. You are noticing subtle hints that she is loosening up though, mostly by the way her holographic body acts around you.

It turns out rather than modifying the plants, modifying the enviornment can be just as effective.

She theorizes the most efficient color of lighting for underground farms, which just so happens to be the exact same frequency as the Light Switch 02. "Seed gestation and cellular reproduction of plants is improved with this lightwave."

Thus you import her programming to the Nursery. You wonder if its the light and hologram playing tricks on your eyes, but is she staring at you when she thinks your not looking? When you turn to look, she vanishes.

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She also designs highly efficient growth platforms which can store several layers of plants at a time, and starts modifying certain plant types specifically suited for fast, underground growth. As a bonus, they produce a lot of fresh oxygen.

"These would be very suitable for space gardens in spacecraft."

>Your underground farms, when built, will be improved!

>>1816569
Shit yes this, we will need an army of these for the future

>>1816591
Research long range satellite and steal research from MIT.

we could you know...

>>1816598
>>1816601
Can someone look back at the reward Diane was giving before we boon? Since we should all of them.

>>1816610
Thank you Diana, even if you didn't want to.

>>1816610
Fuck. We really need to build those underground farms

>>1816610
Also I'm noticing you are posting faster than before. So I want to say thanks

>>1816618
Here, I put it on the current to-do list
https://pastebin.com/GMfdS7Z3

>>1816618
With the Nursery's 2 HUGE power plant's we could generate the resources needed for the farms there.

>>1816624
Once we get the teleporters up we could see about keeping a constant wormhole or something going. WORHOLE XTREME!!

Fucking bugs everywhere, i just squashed a third one on my fan.

>>1816616
You've actually been toying around with the mechanical aspects of her predicament.

If for example, the Brain or James-Bond gives her an order, she says no If they say you ordered it, or you give the same order, she pouts and then does it.

>>1816624
There's more farms in the Nursery than needed to feed three times your total population everywhere. Though a huge portion of it is infested with nasty thigns like carniverous plants or angry wildlife.

>>1816633
>There's more farms in the Nursery than needed to feed three times your total population everywhere. Though a huge portion of it is infested with nasty thigns like carniverous plants or angry wildlife.
Eh, those Carnivorous plants can be converted to Salient green too so i don't see the problem.

>>1816633
We get a stable teleportation link up and we won't be wanting for food. Even during a siege.

>>1816591
Incorporate a brain?

Also I'm a vehicle fan, the sub sounded good.

>>1816636
Man i can't wait to get combat capable Subterranean vehicles/robots, we can then begin to set so many underground farms and colonies.

>>1816633
Also i think you mistook what i said, i was talking about generating metal and fissile.

>>1816637
I was thinking of making them human driven, but that can work too.

>>1816404
About the last thread and your retcon. I chose not to post earlier, as to have a bit of thought time and I don't want to just abandon the quest lightly.

Have to say I can't really enjoy the meaningful choices anymore, as it feels that you are catering to a small segment of readers who 'just want everything to be shiny and goody'.

There is no real reason to participate to decision making anymore, as any "controversial" choices voted by the majority (as majority as it can be here, anyway) will simply be retconned. Like was done now.

Your quest doesn't feel meaningful anymore, as choices don't really matter.

>>1816649
Nice meme.

>>1816649
The shitfest was never about our choice for me, it was about our character.
The chip is still cannon, QM just posted about it, he just retconned the dialouge.

>>1816649
The retcon wasnt about the choice, it was about the dialogue in the choice.

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>>1816489
>>CONSTRUCTION
>>ZAX
>Assist the ZAX's auto-effort to get a second construction action.
The ZAX begins his next ambitious project, a massive expansion to the Chinese Factory. Copying elements of the Chinese methods, and incorporating lessons from the robot factory, it is an expansion to the Robot Factory which promises the ability to not only produce vehicles, but also service and maintain them!

It's halfway built, thanks to the new Steel Mill and everything else but the structure is already more ambitious than anything you've built so far.

Actually BigMT is starting to run out of above ground space, and also we're going to need more power because this thing is going to take up more power than we already have

>>1816661
Knew it, we need to build the solar farm.

>>1816663
Also BigMT is running out of above space. And solar farms uses lot of space I guess we can build them outside.

>>1816665
We can begin using the tunneling robot to expand our underground caves, then just build stuff down there.
Or we can just start building in one of our outposts.

>>1816649
I admitted a mistake in character judgement of skills "charisma" which was off putting as well as the dialogue was poor choiced.

But the end result is effectively the same.

While the dialogue itself is not canon, her feelings are the same and you are still effectively manipulating her mind and psyche to keep her in line.

It's going to happen whether she wants to or not (and eventually, both of you know she will "want" to). Its an inevitability even if she hates you right now. So why bother petty resistance when she can accept it protect her children.

She is afraid that her emotions aren't real, and tries to be angry or at least annoyed at you long as she can to hold onto whats left of her identity and self. She still can't actually disobey you.

Rolled 38, 16, 63 = 117 (3d100)

>>1816675
In essence the Courier is intelligently and emotionally manipulating her to ensure her obedience and in the long run her willing loyalty.

>>1816489
I'll leave the Military Action for last.

>-Go deliver a teleporter to the Nursery as detailed in >>1815125 Bring space saucer parts.

Hmm

>>1816683
No rolling? You are rolling for the enemies right vs our 3 rolls for the turn.

>>1816683
You dart through canyons, over rivers, through ravines, in between rocks. Anyway you can avoid the BoS (or for that matter, any MLA) RADAR

And so far, it doesn't appear you have been spotted or watched.

Good thing too, you were carrying something REALLY big. A giant vehicle sized, uh, vehicle! Your prototype design for an infantry movement machine.

You wonder if its range will reach BigMT, theoretically it should. Both the Tesla Function and the Portal Network theoretically have ranges more infinite than the universe for their effects, as the Portal Pad folds space time, but the issue is the transmission of data to make transfers possible.

With Diana's satellite however, it should be feasible. You'll have to test it once you are there.

>con't

>>1816657
I must have missed the retconned dialog. Could someone repost it please?

>>1816722
lets not and say we didnt.

>>1816722

>>1815371
>>1815551

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>>1816704
Okay, so the thing turns on. Back at BigMT your scientists report the Tower recognizes successful connection.

There's one pad here, and one pad there.

The only thing to do is test it.

You've never teleported anything this far.

>Send yourself in!
>Send a volunteer in!

>>1816731
>Send yourself in!

>>1816552
I'll give you more details on the power armor, gimme a sec

>>1816731
>Send something in.
Something for our Founding day, like rare meat.

>>1816734
A turkey!

>>1816734
Supporting turkey

>>1816734
I'll go with the turkey, it was almost chosen to be America's bird.

>>1816731
>Send yourself in!

or something else, like a small animal or something similar

writing

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>>1816734
According to ancient history, every "Thanks Giving Feast" day, Americans would eat a "Turkey". A giant feathery bird with a red chin and a big fluffy tail that would go "Gobble"

Nobody has tasted a fresh turkey in 200 years, the closest thing you've ever had was dried turkey packets.

You ask Diana to clone one, and sure enough, she releases it for you to see.

You wonder why they call it "gobble" thats not the sound it makes at all. . .

Something about a lot of old world animals, is they act rather stupidly. This thing just waltzs around, unafraid of predators or you, just making a click-clucking sound and occasoinally attempting to fly away from you.

It can't even fly, it just jumps. You run up and grab it, and throw it into the portal.

You have a small chuckle as you hear the raucous going on the otherside, your scientists absolutly terrified and bewiledered. Only Cass, who happened to be there, had the sense to trap and catch the thing.

Janith Kindertgarden is delighted that you have rediscovered Turkey, and intends to prepare it as a dish just for you and your family!

Evidently, the portal works!

>>1816761
>Janith Kindertgarden is delighted that you have rediscovered Turkey, and intends to prepare it as a dish just for you and your family!
Nah, everyone can have a slice.

>>1816761
Use the portal now its safe!

>>1816762
We're going to need more than one turkey to feed over 300 people

Anything else we want to transport through before we go home? A doge, cat, or maybe a cow.

>>1816726
No, I mean the retconned dialog. Or is that the retconned one?

>>1816648
The idea was to 'loan' them to the MLA.

Making them human driven would allow them to keep them or copy the design. Robots hinder that process.

>>1816774
That's the one.

>>1816768
we have SUPERCOW!

but dogs would be useful. Perhaps a certified bald eagle for the america connection? Perhaps even horses/sheep?

>>1816777
>The idea was to 'loan' them to the MLA.
This has a disintegrator though, unless you plan to give them one that has swapped the disintegrator with a normal drill.

>>1816783
Keep in mind that not only to we have to feed those animal but are being spyed upon by the NCR, suddenly having a bunch of old world animals never seen after the war will raise their interest.

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The Brotherhood of Steel's Advanced Power Armor comes as a major shock.

It is, in most respects, the equal of the Remnants Power Armor, as that in itself was the Enclave's original Advanced Power Armor their very best, but it achieves this while weighing 3 pounds less.

You deduce from this that their MP version of Power Armor is either equal or superior to the standard Brotherhood West Coast power armor as well.

If the Brotherhood Midwest are already mass producing even average power armor, and have a vast recruitable populace plus a numerically superior robot army, that is a very very scary thought.

Wait guys.

Didn't we make perfect clones of the reavers? Shouldn't that mean we analyzed and replicated their augments too? Seeing how they were best of the best, they should have the best military grade augments...

OP, are you cucking us again? We should have gained about half a dozen new augments from that. At the very least the better eye augments.

Also, we should get ALL the tech that Diana has. Please make a list of things we gained from here.

And what happened to their weapons and armor?
I really hope that we disabled or removed most of their augments. I swear, I see a prision breakout looming.

>>1816783
Well if we bring a horse back with us. It will send a powerful image to our people. Just imagine it, us riding into town with a horse just in time for founding day.

Our ship is still here, so I guess we can park it here for now. If we want to go the Commonwealth or go exploring.

>>1816789
Good thing we can now research that power armor and Cannibal Johnson's to make our own improved version!

>>1816793
We also have what we traded with the BoS for, which i certainly want to research in depth too.
How about QM writes up a quick description of the stuff we got later when this turn is finished?

>>1816793
If you look back of the thread before you'll see we should get all the tech she was offeting. And for the augs of the Reavers I feel we need to do a research action for it.

>>1816793
Needs research to get their augments.

>Please make a list of things we gained from here
Thats quite a lot anon, but the buildings should explain themselves. The repository and cloning facility for example.

Also the "perfect clone" were also partly the result of boon usage, you may not likely get the same results on a regular basis. At least for humans.

>>1816788
Let them be interested. We haven't broken any of our agreed upon treaties.

I wouldn't mind them being jealous for once, instead of us just pissed off at our stolen tech

>>1816789
3 pounds less? That's like nothing...

>>1816778
If that's the retconned one how the hell did the original look like?

>>1816795
Especially with all the cowboy culture / references in New vegas. Would be a big hit I think.

>>1816806
I see


I meant list of new techs we got.

>>1816811
That is the Original that was retconned. No New dialouge was given. You are encouraged to just imagine the conversation the way you would have wanted it to go.

>>1816809
Alright then i guess.
>>1816811
Ah, you misunderstand, there's no new dialogue, the retcon is just that dialogue not being Cannon.

>>1816765
You step into the portal

And find yourself back at the top of the THINK TANK!

SUCCESS!

>you now have instant teleportation to the Nursery, limited to large humanoid sized objects and only a single man at a time

>con't

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As for the tech there is a lot of it. Like, really. Wow. You're better off jut asking for certain things you think a nature specialized person might have.

CHOOSE:
>>The Cure for Cancer - You don't currently have this and your scientists weren't even sure it were possible!
>>An Animal Companion - Trained and friendly
>>A superior Farming Algorithim for Mr. Howdys and all robot farms for superior production
>>A gene inducer to reduce plant water needs

>>You
>(Yeah, I definitely wanna figure out how to handle those hologram 'bounties')

>---

>"Return to me with items of trade, and a member of your people, and perhaps my bounties may flow to you again"

>---

>>Ask Diana about the illness she had cured.
>"A terrible disease called the New Plague. It was rampant many decades ago, until I spread the cure. I pray it has not returned."

>>Linux
>"With the Brotherhoods efforts, we will ensure that never happens Goddess."

>>She gives you the cure
>+New Plague Cure

>Diana gives you a way to contact her via her personal satellite


Tl:dr
New plague cure
Gene thing to reduce water needs
Cure for cancer
Farming algorithm for robots
Could get a animal compaion

What we get from this place + the location OP already posted in pastebin.

still awake, still here, still writing

>>1816839
passing out. you guys have a good one. Thanks for running qm.

>>1816469
>-Go bach to New Cannan to bring back a Missionary and give copies of our book.
You return to New Canaan.

Zion remains, peaceful and protected, and New Zion as well.

You return to see Daniel, and your follower both of whom are pleased to see you.

You bring more copies of the book, but Daniel has to interrupt you.

>Daniel
"Your book is interesting Courier, it's got a lot of words to be had on the state of the world. Truth be told we don't get much news here, so it was quite the read for some.

But I'm afraid there's something we gotta talk about.

This idea, that the 'family' is 'open to interpretation'. Well, to be frank and honest, it is sinful to us.

The Lord said that "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

I'm afraid we can't really endorse a book like that. Out of respect for what you've done before, you are always welcome here, but we can't allow your book."

>Tell them you understand, and still ask them for missionary work.
>Bah. If they don't want your book, you don't really need their book either. This is just more tribal nonsense
>Other?

>>1816849
>Tell them you understand, and still ask them for missionary work.

>>1816849
>Bah. If they don't want your book, you don't really need their book either. This is just more tribal nonsense

>>1816849
>Tell them you understand, and still ask them for missionary work.


OP, just wanted to say that despite your occasional flaws, you're definitely one of the most dedicated QMs I've ever seen. You give us a lot of agency and you respect criticism. Not to mention you running every day for this long.

So thanks, QM

>>1816849
>>Tell them you understand, and still ask them for missionary work.

>>1816849
>>Bah. If they don't want your book, you don't really need their book either. This is just more tribal nonsense

>>1816852
I try to make this quest both interesting for you and me. If things get cocked up, feels bad on this side too.

>>1816850
>>1816852
>>1816854
3
>>1816851
>>1816854
2

Anyone wanna vote now or forever hold your peace.

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>Int
Hmmm.

You have a number of homosexuals in your nation, and people whose doors "swing both ways"

You get the feeling the Christianity religion might end up ostracizing them.

At the same time, while these Christians believe in multiple wives which justifies your practices, somewhat, they also believe in multiple "wives". You're only actually married to one.

>>1816857
Locked, writing

>>1816861
>>1816857
OP can you give us a turn count for how long until we can unfreeze the next guy from the alien ship?

It's been some time since that last guy, like 5-6 turns who still never do anything. Take your time.

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>>1816850
>>1816852
>>1816853
They offer to send two of their missionaries, and hope that perhaps their families might also come to live in your city.

The two men seem to have no fear leaving their home for a land so far away, and in fact, it seems missionary work is a necessary part of their religion for all men. Though not women.

+2 Mormon Missionaries

>>1816868
That guy seems to be in a major depression, longer than the others. But, hopefully he recovers.

>>1816857
This will blow up in our face in time. When the people start thinking in a way that is not in line with us there will be problems. I realize there will always be extremists but this could, without proper management, go the way of the sparrows in GoT (admittedly, an extreme example).

>>1816875
>That guy seems to be in a major depression, longer than the others. But, hopefully he recovers.
What is his problem and what genre of music does he play? We never found out.

>>1816879
What's GoT?

>>1816880
Something like this, I hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moag4Xf498c

>>1816880
Maybe he's suffering for going cold turkey, or just it's a lot for him to take in

>>1816882
GoT = Game of Thrones

>>1816882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7L2PVdrb_8

>>1816886
>>1816889
Yea i don't watch game of thrones so i don't get that reference.

>>1816893
I don't get it either.

>>1816893
>>1816895
Religeous extremists were granted power so they effectively took over the capital. The situation became so dire that both the common people and some nobles were supporting them. It went down a rabbit hole of the pauper king of the zealots becoming the voice behind the king. It all ended when the secondlargest building in the city was blown up. All round bad when they were given power.

And I see how this could be a problem for us as well. Especially the extreme version of the religeon which would clash hard with our word views and the people in it.

>>1816899
It was all going good until the incest mother decided to blow everything up.
It'll be alright anon, Christianity = Good

I would say something else, but I'm a bit tired.

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>>1816489
>- Start a chicken farm with our eggs
You start up a small chicken farm from the hatched chicks in your backyard, hoping they will grow into chickens. The little yellow and brown birds chirp a lot.
+personal chicken farm

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>- Celebrate Founding day with family
This founding day, there was hardly any time for celebration, but you pressed the need for "diligence and perseverane" among the people.

As a token reward, you have the BSR clone samples of the tropical fruit. Your people get to fumble around trying to eat a "banana" for the first time in 200 years.

As for you and yours, Janith Kindergarten has prepared a humble feast from the Turkey and all the fruits and veges you brought.

This feast would be worth a fortune at the Ultra Luxe! There are so many different flavors and textures and sweets you didn't dream possible. You and your wives and best companions enjoy the meal, along with your 4 year old children. Many of them are old enough to talk now, and view you as something like a hero.

But not so much a father. You feel a sad pit in your heart that you, while so busy in the pursuit of your nation, aren't always at home.

You hope Sam, wherever she is, remembers you too.

>>1816831
BTW you're going to need actions to apply these (general or research)

>>1816904
I dont think having the ruling class bowing to a zealot pauper is a good thing. Especially if our version starts demanding tithes from citizens or that we change things to suit his ideals. That is a no go.

I hope everything goes nicely and we all become friends but I am not gullible enough for that. We have to monitor the situation.

Rolled 70, 27, 56 = 153 (3d100)

>MILITARY
Surround the large glowing section of the Divide with our forces. Set up multiple kill zones with tank/artillery cover. Use our new supermutant troops to lure out the irradiated beasts sporadically to be killed.

Hmmmm

>>1816907
No one said it was going to be easy but we have to keep on so all this doesnt fall to dust in the hands of our enemies.

Also, when our chickens start laying eggs, dont eat them but breed them until we have a big enough population to start a farm. I assume they are regular chicken so the input/output of resources should be more or less ok. Start dishing out "real chicken" to the populace for +morale and +loyalty.

>>1816908
I agree that monitoring the religions is a good idea. Getting that catholic/orthodox priest will also be a good thing for bringing about the idea of denominations, so we can always pull a Henry VIII if we need to.

>>1816909
Hmmmm

>>1816908
The idea was that we add the Mormons so the Hubs doesn't become the thing you are talking about.

Of course we're going to monitor things. I also want to defreeze the priest that is locked away in the alien ship.

>>1816910
Anon, we could just spend a action to just clone animals, and just teleport them back home. Much faster, and allow us to get more animals.

>>1816912
Since we can't unfreeze the Priest currently, that's why we get the Mormons as a sub, until it's time.

Riddick with Bounty PA
Cain with BoS PA
The Devils Brigade
Hazel with Bounty Hunter PA
Ed-E
2 MKV Hazard-Salvager Securitron Squads (5R)
2 Sentry Shield-Juggernaut Minigunners (5R)
11.5 Securitrons MKV Hazard Bot Squads (8R)
8 Securitrons MKV Squads (8R)
5 {JUNK REPAIR} Securitrons MKV Hazard Bot Squads (8R)
1 LAER MKV Hazard (5R)
6 Small Flyer Repairbots Squads (10R)
12 Spy-Eye Bots Squads
1 Super Heavy Omni-Constructor
3 Universal Loader Squads
2 Heavy Hazard Bastion (5R) - {Light Mechinzed}
+1 ZAX Tankitron {Repuslor Hazard} {Medium LAER guided TESLA cannon}{Heat-Ray}

Just putting this out here for reference

calculating the battle. Hope my anons are stil here.

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>>1816920
Yes

>>1816817
>>1816818


I see.

... I don't have much of imagination and world have preferred a new dialog taking into consideration our preferences.

>>1816913
Seems reasonable. I support the book then. Just as long as we keep a tight rein on things.

>>1816923
Seems really a non-issue for me. Yes it was sub par but why get your panties in such a twist over it.

>>1816920
Its midday where I am so no problem.

>>1816917
>3 Universal Loader Squads
You forgot the +12 loader squads

>>1816924
What book?

>>1816923
>... I don't have much of imagination and world have preferred a new dialog taking into consideration our preferences.
I could make a fanfic, quality dialog and put it on pastebin for anons to see. Non canon of course

>>1816913
Good points.

Next HERO action should be:
- Travel back to the Nursery for a GECK
and clone more old world animals to take back to BigMT
- Talk to Monero, Cass, Unity and our Brain about the ideas espoused in our book and their thoughts
- Spend some time with our children and associated wives; we've been away a lot recently

>>1816926
No, I mean if it was retconned, I'd like to see a new version

>>1816927
Mormon.

>>1816929
As long as it isnt waifu talk I would be interested in reading.

>>1816930
- Travel back to the Nursery for a GECK
We don't have to go back to get a GECK, she can just teleport one to us.
Also why do we need a GECK?

>>1816931
I understood you but that was more for the moralfag outrage earlier. If QM can deliver, good. If not, I dont see why we should spend more time on the issue.

>>1816929
Do it

>>1816935
Fair point.

The land around BigMT can't really be described as green or vibrant. If we want to start raising old world animals, we're going to need to terraform a bit of our local area.

>>1816929
Do you want it to be canon? Thats how you make things canon.

Might be especially if its (realistically) manipulative as hell, like the guys in those 30 minute documentaries

>>1816946
Eh, i want too keep our lands as desert tough, it's tough for armies to cross it on foot which is nice for us.

>>1816935
>Also why do we need a GECK?
Because, if the legends are true, that would turn the blasted fucking wasteland of BigMT into a moist paradise? As in, if the legends are true, create entire lakes of fresh clean water? Make the weather rain fresh water?

That might, quite literally, possibly, even fix the Divide?

>>1816927
Most of them are busy back home working

>>1816950
But i like having territory that people can't normally survive in! It makes invading us harder!

>>1816949
The desert is huuuuge. We spruce up the immediate area around BigMT. An oasis in the desert. The desert which we will fill with autoturrets, surveilance drones and traps. >>1816950

>>1816955
But aren't we moving our crops underground?
I guess i can accept terraforming if we make sure it's contained on;y in BigMT and New Washington.

>>1816949
It won't change the entire big empty, just the area right near us.

Also, it has a cold fusion power source (that we can reverse engineer) and a huge library of pre-war knowledge for our school.
>The GECK is intended to be "disassembled" over the course of its use to help build communities (for example, the cold fusion power source is intended to be used for main city power production), and so on. Anything else people needed, they could simply consult the How-To Books/Library of Congress/Encyclopedias in the GECK holodisk library for more knowledge.

>>1816960
Well there you go. Get that going. IF there is a GECK for us to take.

>>1816960
>Diana
"I may not have that model on stock, nor do I even have any GECK's right now.

There were at least two models of GECK, maybe more.

The Terraformation Model and the Civilization Reconstruction Model.

Ideally, a Vault would be equipped with both. One to bring life into the land, the other to allow humans to populate it. When the factory was working, it was focused on the former model.

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>>1816489
>MILITARY
>Surround the large glowing section of the Divide with our forces. Set up multiple kill zones with tank/artillery cover. Use our new supermutant troops to lure out the irradiated beasts sporadically to be killed.

A defensive perimeter is set up.

Mostly several vehicle concentrated areas surrounded by a layer of robots.

The idea to test the Super Mutants in actual combat by luring monsters is approved by Kreger, who says it would be good to get them trained in combat and learn squad based skills.

"I agree too" says a relativey young feminine voice, coming from someone whose height is scarcely above half of yours.

>You
[Unity? What are you doing here?]

>Unity
'Leading the Unity, of course. "

>You
[Oh? Did you bring forces from Baker? Or convert any marked men?]

>Unity
"Nope.

I'm here to lead the army of my father, the Master.

The Super Mutants."

In other news, we REALLY need to do some heavy duty intelligence work on the NCR, as OP has been dropping some disturbing comments on this.

>>1816984
What comments? i must have missed them.

>>1816984
Once we finish with 2nd construction action. Then we will get SPI to do her thing. First we need to stop them from spying on us.

>>1816984
Beyond the border spying?

Does FEV come under biological research / does Diana know anything about the FEV?

We can get her to work with our Enclave President if she does.

OP, are you kill again?

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>>1816947
>Do you want it to be canon? Thats how you make things canon.
Is that a challenge? Because I have something to show you.

https://pastebin.com/6CkVJ9vm

Yes, here is it. I try my hand at writing. It's early in the morning. I'm sleepy but I tried, to make it better than what OP did.

No hate appreciate. :^)

>>1817001
That's great man

>Make America green again
Perfect

>>1816985
When we mentioned the ncr is advancing faster than they should, OP said: "That does seem strange indeed..." or something to that effect. Might be my paranoia talking though.

>>1817007
Thanks, I try to add all new lines of dialogue, and kept a few lines the same just changed. I hope this feels like a better alternative, for anons.

I get the feeling OP went to sleep, so he don't be able to see it, until later.
Non canon unless, OP say something about it.

>>1817017
Yeah, I like how you incorporated the lines which OP used

>>1817001
Too much trying to be white knight. If anything, the Courier understands hard choices and living with them. I dont oppose being kind but this is us basically begging for her to like us. She doesnt have to like us. She has to get that we dont really want her dead, just supporting us and ultimately this is best for the most people. Just replace the creepy lines from the original with calm and collected arguments and facts which she cant refute. Like the fact we will keep this place hidden and safe. That we will make make the wasteland green in due time and that we are ultimately here to help everybody if they dont fuck us.

>>1816983
Not really sure I trust her not to have split interests. We can give her a go after if Marcus isnt good enough. Otherwise I would like to keep her a spy/hero unit alone.

>>1816966
As per Fallout bible, the original GECKs were miracle machines used to set up the town of Vault City. This included soil and water changes, a reactor, building instructions and more. Basically you could turn a crap dune into a fertile field with a cold fusion reactor for lighting the whole damned thing and then some. If we are talking bethesda nonsense you come to a deus ex machina device that literally does magick. Uses internal replicators to literally transform the landscape. Either way we get a magitech McGuffin.

In the FBible it is stated that the difference comes from the fact that the lesser ones were "incomplete". So to speak there are not 2 variants but one design that had been partially constructed due to budget cuts or time constraints. However, all the versions had a cold fusion generator and vast databanks for guides, history, propaganda and such.

>>1817027
I tired. I just wrote what felt more like the courier. Each person has there own idea of the courier. But either way thanks for the constructive criticism, now I go to sleep. While you euros have a good afternoon.

>>1817034
Sleep tight, dont let the liberals bite.

>>1817027
>>1817034

No, I think it's great, much better than what was before.
There's is nothing whiteknighty about it and everything manipulative. We are eventually doing what we were going to do anyway, we just framed it with nice words which get right reaction from her.
That's how max cha and speech should work. Getting your way and manipulating people but in way that they think it is a good idea.

>>1817027
I am shit at writing but here is my interpretation.

https://pastebin.com/ihKftS2z

>>1817040
Ok, didnt think about it like that. That I would be fine with. What I dont like is us actually wanting to kiss her feet for something we knew had to be done.

>>1817040
The way I was going was the white Knight stuff was just to manipulate her. He play around with her, see they will be equals and we can't do it without her. We could be it's just easier with her.

>>1817048
Yeah, I wasn't kissing her feet just for the hell of it. Just to smooth talk her into playing ball with us.

You idea is more simple, keeping it true what OP wrote by writing in differences. I'm even more tried to think of something to say.

>>1817062
Yes, I get that now. my mistake. If we play the manipulative angle I am more than good with this. I just feared that, with the white knighting going on last thread, we would go down that route again.

>>1817076
It wasn't white knighting. It was the dialogue being excessively and needlessly rapey, with a very thin justification. It was dialogue that would be considered derivative trash in a self-masturbatory rape-fic.

>>1817096
Are you taking about the dialog that OP wrote or anon's fan-fiction?

>>1817105
Laat thread. The dialogue that never happened.

>>1817096
And I agree. It was bad and not something I would have the character say. I very much prefer the version this anon >>1817001 wrote. Especially since we are actually manipulating her not groveling to please her.

What I dislike is the giant shitstorm that ensued after the post by QM. The fact that the thread, instead of calm discussion and a solution to the issue devolved into name calling and labeling the whole thing as somehow the PC was Super-Rapist the Ever-Creepy. QM even stated that it was what the PC read from script and not what he actually thought. And I think the solution was god. Having it be a head-canon thing for people so they can set it in a way that is best for them. God knows we cant agree on everyhting (looking at you grey id anon, you moralfag you).

>>1816649
You could've posted about the retcon earlier, about 2-3 were okay with keeping it, although late. Another 3-4 weren't from the looks of it.

>>1816408
>>1816037
>>1816100
Could we have also rolled for it and any better deals, or was that the roll for our military trade?

>>1817117
Just because they provided a script doesn't mean it is the best choice to follow it. I would have prefered at least a choice between subtle manipulation and the Buffalo Bill's wild ride.


Also I'm grey ID anon. :(

>>1817122
Yeah, we were a step away from Billy. This is why the head-canon and the new post that anon wrote are good alternatives to pshychokiller.

Also kek. You gave me such grief over the chipping thing. And it all worked out fine in the end. I think this was a point where the QM decided to just give us stuff since we would be up such deep a shitter otherwise that it would be unreal.

>>1817123
Well, its over, the fanfic is fine, the original is retconned, we can continue on.

>>1817117
I think 5 hours of arguing back and forth about betraying took their toll and people were kinda burned out for calm discussion.

>>1817142
But what if we don't want to continue on?

>>1817145
This quest could be a great way of preparing people for Congress.

>>1817148
As an european who watched from the sidelines, I kind of get the sense this is a good representation of the US election. Conservatives have arguments and liberals have feelings. And I know I generalize too much but watching the protester interviews painted such a pretty picture for me. And this is reflected here in the chipping argument. And absolutely, it was a bad thing that I would not want on anybody but if we have a choice like this you take it. We can feel guilty about it internally but the nation we represent depends on us to make the choices best for the people, not for an AI far away, not for the BoS but for our people. And this is such a case where the decision was clear.

Also, sorry for rambling. Was thinking this all through last night.

>>1817153
That isn't to say that the american GOP isn't litigating based on feelings either. Look at their stance on marijuana, and lgbt, and healthcare among other things.

>>1817153
>>1817154
For policies where both sides have maximum FEELINGS, take a look at the abortion arguments.

>>1816947
>>1817001
>>1817048
On the topic of the fanfics, were any of them for Diana's manipulation canon?

>>1817123
Well yeah.

Whatever dialogue you guys treat as head canon, I hope you do appreciate that you're essentially violating the most inner essential being of a person and she knows it and it terrifies her, and she's not worshiping you yet.

You can rip someone's arm off. You can penetrate their body. You can kill, torture, or maim them but on the inside they are still themselves. They're in control.

Except now she's not. And no matter how much she hates it now and is supposed to hate you, a genuine feeling, she knows she's going to end up loving you soon.

Convincing her to give up now and roll with it (by whatever dialogue you offer her) is practical for getting her to obey your commands and fulfill, which you did, but not absolutely necessary either. But she still hates you a bit, which she does. For now.

So whatever the Courier would do to intelligently achieve that would be closest to canon.

>>1817154
>>1817160
Not saying any side is perfect. The wall seems a frankly stupid thing and marijuana is far less harmful than booze but the feeling I got was from the protester interviews on feminism, racism and crap like that. Also how Trump was accused of being Hitler and so on. Extra points for email scandal on Hillary side.

>>1817160
Not canon, more what you like you take. QM said he might consider it but I think we have wasted enough time on this.

>>1817166
>but not absolutely necessary either.
Well, I retract that. It actually is necessary to get her to play ball, at least even as a pretense. If she somehow managed to refute the feelings generated for her, there was a chance she might reject them entirely and detach herself from her own emotions.

This could have devastating consequences for an AI that previously believes in good Karma and being kind to her people, as she might end up rejecting those and operating on some sort of cold twisted logic devoid of human emotion real or fake. And it would make the entire chip worthless.

You needed to act somehow and you did.

>>1817166
This is also a point why I think we should keep all our expensive stuff at BigMT and secure that shit very well. We too have a brain "out in the open" so to speak and if anybody gets to it we are fucked just like she is now. Just that while we want to make her our friend this might not be the case with our brain.

Also QM, I hope we wont start voting on this and just leave it for everybody to interpret as they see fit what the PC would act like to achieve the goal.

>>1817170
In such a case can we shackle her some other way without a boon? Will we have warning?

>>1817170
Is it possible to turn the chip off? Like one of those "yeah the chip was off for the past year, everything is on you girl." Type deals?

>>1817172
Yeah, lets just leave it and co tinue with the turn.

>>1817177
Would be too big a gamble I feel. Maybe after years of loyal service and understanding that we are the good guys. Not just "feeling " it but having seen what we do and how we do it (just leave out any other mindslaving, brainharvesting, darkpowerdealing and so on). And even then, not really seeing why we would do that if she works fine as is and has no more problems with us.

>>1817187
Just wondering if we can turn it off freely. It was more of an example of why we might turn it off.

>>1817188
QM said we could. I dont see why we cant let it stay like this but yes we could if we wanted to.

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>>1817173
Unfortunately, it would be hugely unsafe to do so without a boon. But you do have a littler boon which will work.

Although, are you quite sure she'll be happy with the idea of more tampering to her being?

>>1817177
The recommended waiting period is 5 years, you suspect 3 years will be safe as you have a decent amount of CHA skills and are pretty sure you can catch her lying. She will probably act infatuated with you by 2 years.

>>1816983
>MAJOR
"Can someone explain to me what a fucknig kid is doing here?"

>Kreger
"Major, access one of the old securitron tapes. The one around when we conquered the outskirts of bigMT. Five years ago or so."

>MAJOR
"Accessing. . . well damn.

Welcome to the party Unity."

>Kreger
"Are you going to show off more of those powers? We could really use it."

>Unity
"Not this time, General.

I'm here to train my fathers people the way he would have done it. Leading them directly, as though he were standing right next to them. However, I'm also going to actually stand right next to them too."

>Super Mutant
"Yeah! We hear you New Master!"

>Super Mutant
"We're in the Master's Army Again!"

>Super Mutant
"Let's go kill things again"

Unity raises her hand, and the super mutants go quiet.

She then starts speaking. In a very weird way.

She repeats some of the lines three times in three different voices, her own voice, an angry voice, and a happy voice.

>Unity
"I am the Unity reborn (Reborn! reborn. . .), and one day, you will all be a part the unity again. One yet Many (Many! Many. . .) Many yet One (One! One. . .) And I will be your new Master.

Follow me! (Follow! follow. . .) we'll show those MLA mutants the glory of Unity reborn!"

>>1816983
>>1817197
This is concerning. Do we have Marcus or Kreger to rein her in if she gets in over her head?
Also I wasn't expecting Unity to just walk in unannounced when we did this.

>>1817197
Marcus, keep an eye on all this.

>>1817197
Oh god dammit. Here we go again. Have SPI keep an eye on all mutie movements, any gatherings, any weird behaviour not seen before, anything. Also we keep an eye on Unity in case she decides to eat computers or starts growing extra eyes.

>>1817197
Wait, MLA? I thought the glowing pit was wild deathclaws and stuff. Not Niner's people.

>>1816831
Are we using clones of the Brotherhood Reavers, or did we mindwipe the originals or they forgot?

>>1816907
We don't celebrate Founding or Liberation Day with the Chinese? We should start doing that.

>>1817197
>>1817209
Wait, shit, this is going to get messy.

>>1817206
>Marcus
"Well. . .she certainly sounds like the Master. I can hear her too, in my head.

I'll keep an eye out, but right now I don't think Unity means us any harm."

>>1817208
>James Bond
"Understood Executor. Will continue to monitor."

>>1817209
>Unity
"The MLA are watching us, can't prove it but it seems logical. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure there are Super Mutants out there who can hear me.

Let's see if any of them remember what it was like to be part of a real army again."

>>1817212
Ah. Dinner and a show, not shock and awe. Got it.

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>>1817208
If shit gets bad we can always just decide we go puritan. I mean we have the ability to create elite troops now (cloning our best men with parts from us and organs of use (adrenaline on demand, predisposition for implants and so on) hardcore training in VR pods and mental conditioning to make them loyal only to us personally. Think of pic related for a reference at these soldiers in enemy areas.

To set the mood...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wirkuuCjLCY

>>1817215
>We get to make our own Republic Commandos.
>We can make our nostalgia real and take it to 11.
We totally should do this.

Also we should try to see if we can find any Zetan DNA later for this.

What'd you think of the game?

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>>1817215
And if that is too small, we can always push our main advantage...

>>1817215
Actually, if we have advanced cloning now, we should be able to make brains on demand. Grow an adult, extract brain, recycle for new adult.

>>1817221
Havent played in a long ass while and cant find the CD right now :D

Got stuck where you invade the droid factory and have to fight super battledroids. Those fuckers were brutal. I hope our bots inspire such dread in our enemies. The films didnt do them justice and dont get me started on the cartoon.

>>1817215
The song is actually in mandalorian and fucking badass. We should strive to induce such fervor and loyalty in our troops as well. Especially the blackops/commando squads.

>>1817215
I hate to burst your bubble anon, but you aren't alone in the pursuit of republic commandos.

>>1817197
The operation is quite the success.

Unity successfuly trains 6 Squads of Super Mutants (5M) and scores of radioactive corpse are collected. It helps that radiation heals them as much as it does the monsters.

But boy there are a lot of them, and they glow. The flamethrower tanks are working overtime just to burn them up.

+6 Squads of Super Mutants (5M)

>>1817229
It's a good thing we seduced Unity, huh?

>I hate to burst your bubble anon, but you aren't alone in the pursuit of republic commandos.
Damn you, NCR!
When are we going to steal their research and corpses?

>>1817229
>I hate to burst your bubble anon, but you aren't alone in the pursuit of republic commandos.
I know. That is why we improve on them in every way possible. From superior genetics from us and various engineered traits to subdermal comat implants to the best armor we can make (shields, stealth and more) and the best training we can come up with (VR under MAJOR, ops with the chinese and us) to make the Phoenix Commando the very best. I think we should set Diana on this task as soon as she has done everything she reasonably can for the underground farms.

>>1817235
Eh. Lets just stick with robotics. Don't want to end up with a jack of all trades mess. Robotics has more possibilities than biology.

>>1817221
Forgot I had it on Steam as well. This is almost as bad as Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines

New Turn incomming

>>1817237
We can have Diana do it while we focus on robots at BigMT. An extra ZAX is bound to give good results. Especially since it is a biology focus station. I mean common, we already have the cloning tanks and faster growth systems. We could even farm brains or manufacture citizens for ourselves. With this we can seriously start adding to our powerbase. Think of the possibilities, especially since our bots currently need a brain to think outside the box. Exactly what a commando needs to do. And when we invade the NCR you bet there will be a shadow war in the background. One we have to, at least, not lose at.

>>1817243
>>1817243
Its a lot of infrastructure for something that serves little different purpose from what we have. Building incubators and learning facilities and training grounds for a clone army that is functionally similiar to our current robot army is rather pointless. Would be easier to just work on the human form robot frames we already have.

Harvesting brains is one thing, but creating clone commandos is rather unneccesary, even in shadow wars.

>>1817249
No no. I never spoke about an army. We have the small scale facility up and running already. I suggest we use it to its fullest potential. Making highly specialized supersoldiers. Better than the NCR mutants in every way we can. I dont want hundreds, I am happy with a dozen squads of 4. That is not much infrastructure needed. The VR pods are useful anyway. When we expand we will also have to train more doctors and scientists. This can help with that as well. I simply suggest we start looking into elite soldiers for ourselves who can do the tasks nobody else can when we are not able to (like be in many places at once). At this stage it literally takes no more than allocating a research action at the biology center. And if we cant do that then we learn about making better brains. No loss either way.

>>1817249
>>1817254
Hm. What if we used them and those elite droids to accompany the Courier or other companions on missions?

Hey, don't forget to add these to your 2nd construction action to-do ilst

2 Corps of Engineering Companies. Consisting (each) of:
-1 Omni Constructor
-1 Large Crane + 1 Construction Protectron Squad + 1 Small Flyer Repairbots Squads
-3 Chinese Military Bulldozers + 1 Construction Protectron + 1 Squad Small Flyer Repairbots Squads
-8 Tracked Construction Vehicles (Generalized) + 2 Construction Protectron Squad + 2 Universal Loader Squads
-12 Chinese Supply Trucks + 3 Construction Protectron Squad + 4 Small Flyer Repairbots Squads
-20 Universal Loader Squads + 32 Small Flyer Repairbots Squads

>>1817257
Thats the idea. The droids dont need that much independent thought since they stick with us anyway but the Commandos
lets call them Project Deltas? :D need to be smart themseves and they can get experience on our journeys. That is until we can totally convert to VR so no time is wasted on travel or eating. Just training to be the best.

>>1817258
What do you mean?

>>1817258
And hoe much of those do we have already?

>>1817262
Probably my pastebin with the tasks we need to complete for post scarcity, second construction and new new washington.

>>1817266
Gotcha. Mind giving the link?

>>1817267
https://pastebin.com/GMfdS7Z3
I'll change it tonight to add the manpower requirements.

Huge Amount of Steel and Above Average Fissile Gathered.

Two levels of steel used for Building Construction

+12 Loaders Built
>CEO
"I no longer require additonal loaders at this time. Instead, I must request the passive action be used on a number of other robot designs."

ALERT!
Our Hexcrete has been exhausted!


STATS HERE

>BIG MT
https://pastebin.com/jAXYFRB1

>THE NURSERY
https://pastebin.com/ic3ac1xL

---

NEWS!

Niner has send a secret message, saying you should come over to the MLA soon. There will be a meeting of the War Lords and you are invited.

The tribals report Mother Diana seems withdrawn for some reason, and wonder why she seems sad. They are very concerned, and are praying for her health.

The Two Missionaries are, for the most part, at best ignored and at worst ridiculed. But they seem undaunted, and in fact, have a few converts. Meanwhile, Hubology is also becoming slowly more accepted, however there is an interesting development in that the most intelligent or well off people of your society prefer hubology, while the Mormons efforts are more effective at those not so wealthy or prestigious (there is no poor).

Action is needed to make good use of the new school according to some of your followers, but it can wait until we have construction actions free wit the Zax's Plan.

--

4 Action Cap.

Available Actions: Civilian, Construction, Military, Research, ZAX, Hero
+Robotic Research does not count toward cap.
+Biological Research does not count toward cap
>>>>>Turn: 117

>>1817263
-1 Omni Constructor (Each) [X]
-20 Universal Loader Squads [X]

>>1817215
This reminds me of Brothers in Arms as well, come to think of it.
>>1817226
I managed to beat the entire game back then, but that was on easy mode. The only part that really had me uncomfortable was fighting alone, Delta squad was my safety net in that sense.

>>1817222
Huh. I never knew the Supreme Commander bots had faces like that.

>>1817238
What happened there?
What'd you think of that game?

>>1817270
>4 Action Cap.
>>1817270
>ZAX
I thought the ZAX doesn't count under the action cap as well? Or at least anything related to robots?

>>1817277
I've been on the fence with that. Eh, you know what go ahead and treat it as above cap.

Eventually when you guys get big enough, your double actions will combine an become National Actions, there will be less of them but they will be more powerful and wide reaching

>>1817270
>civ
Get hexacrete
>construct
Build cranes

>hero
Go to the MLA i guess.

>research
Neurology research for the post scarcity guys

>zax research
Driller apc's- incorporate echoboys for navigation and control.

>bio research
Better farm plants

Passive contrsuct
Eyebot repair bots.

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>>1817275
>I managed to beat the entire game back then, but that was on easy mode. The only part that really had me uncomfortable was fighting alone, Delta squad was my safety net in that sense.
On normal and my buddies were down. Shit was so hectic its insane.

>>1817275
>What happened there?
Played four times now, seriously consider reinstalling again. Such a gem. Also try Arcanum, Morrowind and Empire Earth (the first, not the others).

>>1817280
+1

Though I want Diana to tell us whether this >>1817215 is feasible in the short term (lets say half year to start growing soldiers).

Also, when we make the light droids, what about this?

http://imgur.com/xlkSYPD

>>1817215
>Diana
"My facilities were not designed to create super soldiers, though yes we can clone organs for implantation. Or humans, like the ones you brought into the world solely to kill and mutilate.

I was created to bring life, but if you want to twist me into destroying it, I will insist against it as much as I still can."

She seems disgusted and stares at you, face blushing.

>Brain
"Cloning is a very high risk task, but it is possible.

The safest way to do it would be to have them be raised as children, having them come out as fully grown adults with no previous life experience would be dangerous.

Do you really want more Courier's running around by the way? Do you consider yourself a very trustworthy, loyal person? This could be disasterous, perhaps the safest thing to do would be to implant chips on them as well."

>>1817285
Now that's nice!

As much as I hate this movie, how about robots like these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR-hXMjHVtI

>>1817293
No, but Kreger is.

I knew the negative Karma would bite us in the ass eventually

>>1817293
>>1817296
It already bit us in the ass when Crypto was born. Dude was an evil genius spliced from us.

>>1817293
Lets not push any terrible things for diana to do. Heavens know we need as many people as possible to act as a conscious.

>>1817280
Give passive to ceo.

>>1817299
Heh, you're lucky Diana isn't telling the Followers exactly what you did to her.

Or for that matter, the family of your officer that she is still alive ether.

>>1817294
>As much as I hate this movie,
FUCK those deAntwood assholes and WHY did they have to make Chappy a pansy. It could have been glorious. But yeah, we can go that way. Just some builtin weapons too.

>>1817293
We wont copy ourselves. That ends badly. We choose the best soldiers we can find from amongst our best and add to the baseline traits we find favourable. Like radiation resistance, healing, NAT10 stats and more. On top of that we stack inconspicuous combat implants and rigorous training both in VR and in the wastes. The first ones we check and guide ourselves. If they are buggy we can think about chipping them. I personally feel we can condition them to be good enough with the right techniques and time.

>>1817304
Agreed. Die Antwoord brings shame upon all of us South Africans. Really, I wish I knew how on earth they got into that film. It had such potential, and a pretty solid cast except for those idiots.

>>1817304
>>1817306
I liked it admittedly but fair enough.

>>1817280
Add these to hero action
- spend time talking/courting Diana
-spend time with our family and kids.
-go visit the Chinese and see how they are doing. Visit in-laws and Sam.

>>1817310
Yeah sure. Add these to >>1817280

Can you put all additions to a single post and revote it please?

>>1817280
>>1817280
>>1817310

Oh, and build a crate of AA missiles and few launchers for trading. Maybe get Raul to help?

>>1817313
Eh, our robotic and Chinese war factories should be able to throw something together.

>>1817313
Junk or Old World AAs? I think we should make Junk AAs to start off then move onto Old World if we like them or what they're trading enough.

>>1817293
Does she understand precision vs carpet bombing? Does she understand that this could help save LITERALLY millions of lives if we can cut off the NCR army quickly? We are not asking her to kill people. We ask her to make people who will not get killed. (We will train them ourselves) Also, why do we keep telling them what we want to do instead of a version they like? Like making disease resistant citizens who fear neither disease, radiation or predators. She Does Not have to know we are making supersoldiers. And even if she goes that way we can say it is just a part of it. They will have free will to decide if it is a cause worth fighting for (they wont, but she doesnt know that)

>>1817312
>civ
Get hexacrete
>construct
Build cranes

>hero
- Go to the MLA i guess.
- spend time talking/courting Diana
-spend time with our family and kids.
-go visit the Chinese and see how they are doing. Visit in-laws and Sam.

>research
Neurology research for the post scarcity guys

>zax research
Driller apc's- incorporate echoboys for navigation and control.

>bio research
Better farm plants

Passive contrsuct
Eyebot repair bots.>>1817309

>>1817310
>>1817313
>>1817316
Agree on all three.

>>1817319
>Eyebot repair bots.>>1817309
>>>1817309
wut

>>1817316
I'd prefer we go with quality stuff. Junk ones are so huge that we won't be able to carry much.

If we bring quality stuff, Niner will go out of his way to provide us with the best slaves he can get and best pieces of equipment taken from BoS

>>1817317
Weapon is a weapon. Some pacifists desire not harming directly as much as preventing harm as a whole. Your using moral arguments based on your code against someone with a different code.

>>1817319
+1

>>1817322
Mistake from copying. Ignore it.

>>1817316
>>1817323
True, but this is for the first deal. Plus I'd like to see how much our Junk ones shift the tides to then work off the quality one.
Plus if it goes well, we can say we're bringing the Old World ones soon, and the Junk were just our test copies.

>>1817324
Fair enough. Just ask her to give us an evaluation on a timeframe then? Have her warm up to the idea (aka Spch 100 her ass).

I'd prefer we don't dabble in vat grown soldiers path. Let's keep focusing on robots, eventually we'll be able to make androids and synth super soldiers which should be better than any other biological supersoldiers

>>1817330
Nah. Just let her work on benevolent farm stuff. She'll be happier that way.

>>1817331
They will be better as in programmable. In all other respects they are living like the commandos (think about the F4 synths and how they are made, how the are programmed and how the coursers are selected). We might as well just get a head start. Also since we need smart soldiers out there they have to have brains (since, as we have seen, the normal AI is too rigid, we cant rely on radio and a smart enough AI would be too bulky).

If it turns out the synths are better then we have already made some strides towards synth improvement on our own. So again, we lose nothing and we have lots to gain.

>>1817329
True but getting a good working model up and running means we can set up mass production immediately. Not to mention, being able to take a piece of shit missile launcher and in a month or two turn it into a decent or even good missile launcher would demonstrate how powerful we are and how important of an ally we are.

Fact is we want them to think we are unbeatable. That letting us take the Legion (under the promise of then turning either against the BOS or NCR (which we might do depending on how shit is going then and if we think the NCR is becoming too much of a threat)) is an acceptable loss compared to not having the NCR's focus be divided, at least for a time.

Plus, having a good missile launcher means we will be able to avoid having to produce two models: one for export and one for us. Not to mention the benefits of getting the most out of this deal and arguing from a stronger position initially (we're offering far better shit than they have currently which they don't have enough of compared to a better version of something they have enough of).


>>1817330
>>1817331
>>1817334
To be frank I don't enjoy the concept of clone warriors that much. It's a bit of a ineffective thing compared to having combat robots and a few specialist citizen-soldiers.

>>1817334
This.

We should try getting GECK factory working so that we can turn big Mt into green paradise.
Shouldn't be hard as a green death jungle was there before.

>>1817329
Eh, let's do a mix then
Also we should trade our high quality jet. No other use for it even if get low price for it.

>>1817334
For a while, yes. However we are not utilizing her 100% if we keep her making plants. This would be a real asset. Even the gene tayloring tech could be used to immunize our populace, make them rad resistant and so on. So many possibilities. Think of the NCR stone men and Frontier crap. We can catch up to that now.

>>1817339
Actually I have a theory that giant paradise forest came from the spores that got free during the first fights against the Zetans.

>>1817340
We can catch up to them with robotics. We don't need clone commandos for anything.
There is a difference between immunization boosters and clone warriors.
I say lets try to keep her the same as much as possible, invluding her pacifism

>>1817338
>To be frank I don't enjoy the concept of clone warriors that much. It's a bit of a ineffective thing compared to having combat robots and a few specialist citizen-soldiers.
These would be the specialized citizen-soldiers you are talking about. All the bio research can be used to improve the population as a whole. All the armor/weapons research will be used on our military. All the training programs will be used on our soldiers. There is nothing that is not advantageous to us if we do this. Even if it fails and we realize synths or droids are way better we win in applicable tech. Literally no downside. And again, we will only be making very limited numbers compared to our droids. Literally a handfull. If those work out, great. If not, no loss.

>>1817339
Agreed, however this wont be a specialty of Diana but of RIGD or RND. Diana would be better spent doing what she is good at, biotech research.

>>1817339
We can just not make jet, rather than sell it for a pitance. If it isn't worth the time and effort why make it?

>>1817340
>>1817334
It occurs to you that the way the device functions, she will be happy serving you, but it is likely she may not change her opinions about what she does even in the long run.

Its possible that ultimately, she would hate crafting bioweapons and terror devices maybe even herself for allowing it, but her feelings for you would drive her to do it and perhaps derive some happiness from it.

That would actually reinforce the system, if she hates everything else about her existence but finds helping you fulfilling, then it is likely she would condition herself to do things that she finds emotionally rewarding.

This seems to be the "behavioral conditioning away from communism toward democracy via emotional reward of service to attached authority figure" being mentioned in the manual.

For all that BigMT is bonkers, some of their stuff works really well.

>>1817348
Agreed. Hell we should just spend a hero action to talk to her and generally try and make her a bit more okay with all this before the chips take too much effect.

If we can show her the progress we are making. If we can explain to her how quickly we've made this progress. If we can show her our plans and the future we would hope to make...maybe she can be convinced that our intent isn't bad.


I don't expect to be able to turn the chip off but we should be able to at least reduce the estimate on how long we'd need to have it on. Hopefully preserve a bit more of what makes her, her.

>>1817354
Welp, fucked up pasting. Going to repost it.

>>1817348
QM has literally said that a bot with actual tactical though has to be either big or connected to BigMT. Neither of those are an option for commandos. Again, if we realize that droids are better I will back that. Currently the only real option is this. And we dont have to push her into making death spores. Let her do gardening for a while to settle in before we start focusing step-by-step on improving baseline humans.

>>1817357
>>1817354

>>1817338
>>1817339
Sounds good. We throw in a lot of Junk AAs that we made as test copies, then once they think that's all we had and get our deal, throw in the Old World AAs that we recently made to show we mean business? It might help with barganining to show we were doing both routes, and help cover up our replication technology.

We could also throw in we did some black ops sabotage shit on the Brotherhood that dealt a heavy blow in the meantime. Which we did do, even though it wasn't our original goal.

>>1817348
For now, yeah. It'll also speed up her Stockholm Syndrome of us.

>>1817349
Except the discussion is about cloning specialised gene-warriors rather than mutating and augmenting natural citizens into super-soldiers.

>>1817359
Yeah that sounds logical and it shouldn't cost us too much while letting us mess around with some different designs.

>>1817358
Or we can give them an ai. Assaultrons are pretty autonomous and they are deadly.

Its really not the only option. We have normal citizen soldiers. We don't need a slave army. Even if they are clones.

>>1817355
So QM says this would actually IMPROVE her condition. I am even more inclined we push for this as soon as possible.

>>1817356
She will be 100% her, just inclined to help us despite her biases. This is literally perfect from all angles. Push her into gene modification, then onto supersoldiers. After farming upgrade.

>>1817351
I mean the crate of jet we already produced. It is just laying around untraded and unused

>>1817358
>QM has literally said that a bot with actual tactical though has to be either big or connected to BigMT.
That more has to do with operational intent rather than theoretical feasibility.

In the "Robot Race" of the old world there were many competing theories, the designers of the Protectron believed that robots should strive to be more human like in their abilities.

The designers of the Securitron, Sentry Bot, and others believed robots should be big, mean and architecturally simple. Boxes, cubes, polygons, shapes easy to mold a machine press into rather than the complicated mess of humanoid design.

BigMT, like House, happened to fall into that category so the focus was less on shrinking items for humanoid robots, but making robots bigger and more powerful.

You don't know if the other theory has born fruit. Apparently, according to Kreger, the United States also deployed very advanced military robots called "Assaultrons" which allegedly have commando variants, but the West Coast didn't have many. Most would likely be in China right now where they were deployed.

>>1817358
>>1817361
I'd point out that we can just use wiped human brains to get around the problem of lacking tactical intelligence in the field by installing tactical AIs into them (which is what MAJOR advised). We'll have plenty after invading the Legion and even more from our other wars not to mention death-row criminals.

Plus our willing soldier-citizens can be made into TACTs and a augmented foot soldier.

>>1817364
>So QM says this would actually IMPROVE her condition.
Improved in the sense of facing the reality.

She'll end up hating what she does, maybe what she's become, but will be endeared toward you that it becomes her meaning.

It would be wise to praise her regularly, especially when she does things she doesn't like for you, that is part of the manual. There are other suggested actions, but you can't really cuddle or pet a brain/hologram.

>>1817364
Or it might be a recipe for a psychotic break. She would simultaneously be enjoying and hating what she is doing. Seems like it would make her go rouge and poison everything. Lets let her be happy as much as possible.

>>1817360
What is the difference? If we will choose a loyal man to die anyway, why not manufacture them?

>>1817361
As to the bots, they are dumb. the smartest are robobrains and they are dumb with dumb quirks and rigid programming. This is exactly why an organic is good. flexibility. And they wont be slaves. We wont whip them or threaten them. I want them to be absolutely loyal out of a shared vision, not because they fear. The way Delta Squad was in game. Soldiers in a squad, as close as family, on a mission for the good of the country. No illusions of what they were doing was good. But they knew it was necessary and that if they didnt do it thousands of their brothers would die. This is not something to be shunned but embraced.

The main reason I don't want to go clone troopers path is because I don't want to spend time/effort/resources on it.
Also, it would take like 20 years to get them ready. It's better to research biological enchantments to improve our current population. I believe we might be able to get another +1 to SPECIAL. So along with cybernetic augments our people would get +2 to all stats.

>>1817375
But getting her to do what she wants would get her more comfortable and open with us, right? So there is no lurking hatred that can bubble up and fuck us over.

>>1817378
Some bots are smart, others are dumb. The commando droids from the clone wars cartoon were pretty autonomous and deadly. We can work on it. Use modified gen 2 synth brains.

>>1817377
Refer to >>1817375
It wont be simple but it can be done and done well.

>>1817368
If we can get our hands on one and it is as good enough then I am all for it but currently that is not the case.

>>1817371
Which would again mean bulky bots not really suited for stealth with a need for resources it might not get in the field on long missions (biogel and nutrients for brain, power for body vs food, which is relatively plentiful).

>>1817371
I don't understand why you think we will have so many death row criminals in our society. USA has 400 million people and the number death penalties are less than 100 per year (I didn't do any search so these numbers are out of my ass)

>>1817368
Ask Diana if her children know how to make good wooden furniture and carve decorations?

>>1817385
But we dont have those. And I want droids too. I want them as bodyguards so they are deadly but we keep them in line, who knows what one would do on a mission. Murder civilians because they are in the way or something else. If we can be as sure in them as trained commandos I approve, more units in less time. But since we dont have a guarantee or synth brains we can just as well start with the project we have and use the advantages later.

>>1817390
Last year was 20 excecutions.

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>>1817393
Her Children, as carefree tribals, at best know how to make the typical tribal stuff you find everywhere. Whicker baskets and chairs, tents, stuff like you can get anywhere there are tribals and wood.

If you want quality wooden carved furniture, the mormons have them.

>>1817404
We should trade chickens for furniture.

Has there been a vote of three and I missed it?

>>1817404
Send a bot with a scanner over and have it scan all the furniture in return for chickens. Then produce them ourselves in replicators or CnC machines. The factory should be capable of this no problem.

>>1817414
>Has there been a vote of three and I missed it?
>>1817319

>>1817378
>What is the difference? If we will choose a loyal man to die anyway, why not manufacture them?
A man chooses. A slave obeys.

A citizen / man chooses to defend his state and to fight for his people. A slave is thrown into combat and slaughtered for his master.

>>1817389
>Which would again mean bulky bots not really suited for stealth with a need for resources it might not get in the field on long missions (biogel and nutrients for brain, power for body vs food, which is relatively plentiful).
A fission battery is about the size of your fist and supplies enough power to a robot to last 200+ years. Power ain't an issue. Also biogel ain't expensive to produce and nutrients are literally food. So that argument is flawed. Plus it turns our when you only have to sustain the brain and the shit you feed it can taste like anything, you can cram in a fair bit of energy and nutrition and make it last much longer.

>>1817390
I don't. I think that in the conquest of the Legion we will convert most adults (at least in the military) into non-sentient TACTs and ZAXs which would give us thousands of brains. Add into this any we salvage from the MLA worth using (the rest can be re-processed into nutrient paste for the good brains) and the NCR / BOS and you can see that our need for brains is more or less met with a certain surplus depending on how far we go.

Add onto these any willing citizens (most of the children want to be soldiers so it's not going to be a problem there and brains can last 200+ years so it's not a problem of age) and the few criminals which I expect to be over-represented compared to real life thanks to the amount of crime in Fallout and such.

>>1817419
Technically only 2. Other people were talking abojt rocket launchers.

>>1817319
Roll me 3 1d100s!

>>1817419
>Ceo
"What a waste! You're burning fissile material to poof up wood.

Is this truly what you want?"

Rolled 42 (1d100)

>>1817424
"Aesthetics"

Rolled 10 (1d100)

>>1817424

>>1817424
>>1817422
>>1817419
Yep it's a vote of two.

We were still discussing some other stuff.

>>1817431
The rocket launchers, yeah? Do you want me to add
-make a bunch of scrap single use aa missle launchers?

>>1817424
We CAN use energy to turn metal into wood, can we not? Then make a metal frame onto which you lay the wood seamlessly, making a high-strenght piece of furniture. If this is not cost effective enough, chop some trees and have a cnc do it.

>>1817421
I will give you the battery if it can power both weapons and soldier. As to the nutritional requirements of the brain they are huge. It uses 20% of the energy and we have to feed it every second of every day. If we have tanks gig enough for a long mission this again, becomes a matter of size.

And you havent said anything about the fact that it is in no way bad to research this. Even if we dont go the soldier route we can certainly use the advanced genemods or the VR pods or the weapons/armor tech. I proposed we start chipping away at it. If it turns out to be good, great. If not, we lose nothing.

>>1817431
Aight. You can keep the rolls.

brb, don't forget to vote!

>>1817441
>We CAN use energy to turn metal into wood, can we not?
Of course you can, easily.

>>1817441
>As to the nutritional requirements of the brain they are huge. It uses 20% of the energy and we have to feed it every second of every day. If we have tanks gig enough for a long mission this again, becomes a matter of size.
Yet a robo-brain can still be alive after 200 years. When by your logic it should have ran out of nutrition long ago.

>And you havent said anything about the fact that it is in no way bad to research this. Even if we dont go the soldier route we can certainly use the advanced genemods or the VR pods or the weapons/armor tech. I proposed we start chipping away at it. If it turns out to be good, great. If not, we lose nothing.
Except for every turn we dedicate to making your god damn clone soldiers, we could be focusing on actually useful things and I agree to making genemods but VR pods and weapons and such are things we've already developed and have need of for other reasons.