HIRO PLEASE LET US POST WEBMS WITH AUDIO It works fine in other

>>333029
You can on >>>/gif/ and >>>/wsg/

>>333029
This is an imageboard, not youtube.

The screamer argument doesn't even make sense. You can still keep audio muted by default.

>>333037
So why do a lot of people link to youtube at all, then?
Wouldn't sound webms just cut out the middleman?

>>333037
WebM files are video, smartass.

>>333042
Exactly, WebM files are video.

Go to YouTube if you want to upload videos.

>>333037
>>333044
You can already upload videos so this isn't an imageboard anymore.

>>333044
Are you unaware that people post WebMs on 4chan all the time?

>>333047
>all the time
Go to a random thread on your homeboard and see if there's a webm in the thread. Probably not, because users here still use gifs and pictures.

>>333029
Fuck off PewDiePie, you ain't posting your videos here.

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>>333058
>implying homeboards are even a thing

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>>333058
its /sp/ so there's always webms of plays

I think you can link the webm and embed it with 4chan X but that's forum tier, audio support would be best
And maybe up the file size limit a bit

>>333100
test
https://jii.moe/41jKeO_Gx.webm
https://jii.moe/N1Jvg_dMl.webm
https://jii.moe/4kdLgd_zx.webm

>>333110
Oh wow, I forgot jii was still up. I keep thinking it died along with archive.moe for some reason.
https://jii.moe/VyCebu_Gg.webm

>>333110
>>333113
WebM Converter aka WebM for Retards

https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter

>>333116
Are you saying we should convert them to webm without audio

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>>333116
These are all sound webms, in case you didn't realize. I know about webm for retards already.

>>333116
>gitgud.io
I chuckled.

>>333058
>and see if there's a webm in the thread
>>>/co/77299649
now what?

>>333037
This.
Holy shit, do you want a Subscribe button here too?

>>333164
>being this much of a fucking idiot

>>333029
>risk of getting sued because some stupid fucks ARE going to upload copyrighted audios here
>"hurr durr guise listen 2 muh mixtape" faggots ARE going to advertise here
>unecessary, because there are a bunch of video sharing websites on the internet

Yeah, no.

>>333176
4chan already shares videos, you dumbass.

>>333176
4chan can and did get sued for images alone so going by that line of though 4chan should be a textboard. Well, it can be sued for text too.
The other 2 are a problem only if you're a /mu/ subhuman which I seriously hope you aren't. If you are, your opinion is invalid.

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>>333164
>subscribe buttons anywhere comparable to audio in a fucking video file

>>333181
Technically, a webm without audio is just a gif.

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>>333199
>a webm without audio is just a gif

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>>333199
Nah, webms are fundamentally video. To be even more technical (read: anal, just like me), webm without audio is treated as a much better gif format, although it's only partially fulfilling the potential of the webm format.

This thread proves anons against audio webm are just boring faggots who don't like people having fun.

>this is an IMAGEBOARD, therefore you are only allowed to post videos without audios
>y-youtubers are going to shill here
>4CHAN WILL GET SUED FOR COPYRIGHTED AUDIO
>PEOPLE SHARING THEIR WORKS IS BAD

>>333199
And here it is, MOST RETARDED POST AWARD

>>333209
I wouldn't boil down their arguments like that but I really do think audio webms should be a thing. It works fine for /wsg/ (although YLYL threads continues to plague the board, but that's besides the point), and people already link to youtube and other file hosting sites a lot. Sound webms would just cut out the middleman and get straight to the content.

>>333206
>>333209
Tell me one difference between a GIF and a webm, EXCEPT the FPS and the length of the video. Exactly, none. You can't pause gifs tho, but that's just a minimal difference.

>>333215
GIFs are essentially animations, WebMs are videos.

>>333044
We've been posting links to video clips for years.

>>333215
Without getting too /g/, webms are entirely based upon video codecs for its media to play:
>WebM files consist of video streams compressed with the VP8 or VP9 video codec
From http://www.webmproject.org/about/faq/
GIFs have no such capability and is often why they come out with shitty quality when you try to convert video straight to GIF without the filesize becoming astronomically huge (see: tumblr gifs).

>>333209
Well, whatever, I'm not the admin, so my opinion, as well as yours, can't do shit. Hiro should decide it, and he probably doesn't even know what a WebM is.

>>333226
>Hiro should decide it
Oh fuck no; we should decide how the site is run because we are responsible for it being alive. Without us, 4chan is nothing.

>>333235
What, are you going to stop browsing this site if Hiro doesn't enable webms with audio? That's pretty retarded.

>>333226
>Well, whatever, I'm not the admin, so my opinion, as well as yours, can't do shit.
Pretty much this is what will happen at the end of the day. It's still nice to have the discussion, though. At the same time I wish OP just opened it up with a discussion of:
>should sound webms be enabled sitewide?
Rather than:
>HIRO PLEASE LET US POST WEBMS WITH AUDIO
Which encourages more of these threads calling for action.

>>333235
>Oh fuck no; we should decide how the site is run because we are responsible for it being alive.
You say that as if anyone here can come up with an agreeable consensus or is completely and honestly well-intentioned. Responsible for it being alive, sure, but definitely not responsible for deciding action on what's best for the site (that being said I really do want sound webms ;_;)

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 19:12:11 Post No.333380
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I'm wondering why you don't upload somewhere like youtube and paste the link here?

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>>333380
THE MAD MAN HAS SPOKEN

>>333380
Hiro I hope this is a fucking joke. Literally every board has some variation of a Webm thread, that and webm has a shit load more benefits then Youtube.

[spoiler]do you want to be worse then those 8gag faggots?[/spoiler]

>>333380
>I'm wondering why you don't upload somewhere like youtube and paste the link here?
People do link youtube videos here. It would be easier, however, to enable audio files for all boards.
Uploading user-created WebM files to a user account also somewhat defeats the purpose of Anonymously posting, since the video is associated with an identity.

>>333380
do not enable audio. screamers will be posted.
and people will post full length movies split into many webms.

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>>333380
Because its more complicated and doesn't compliment the spontaneous and fast nature of 4chan

Maybe we should ask: Why SHOULDN'T we be allowed to post webms with sound?

The only complaint I've ever heard is that some dickheads could abuse the sound-option and sneak loud noise or even screamers into sound-webms.
While I don't see this as a realistic threat I think one option to counteract this would be to allow users to see the soundwave by hovering over the webm for example. While not very elegant and probably requiring some scripting it would definately make potential "screamers" a non issue.

>>333416
I haven't fell for a screamer in years.
You're a pussy if you are that worried about them.

Nah, fuck audio. I would much rather browse an imageboard than a videoboard.

>>333380
Why does >>>/trash/ give users the option to create their own threads? The board would work a lot better as a place for moved threads.

Right now, the board is becoming another /b/ for furry and pony porn, and the moved threads are falling to the side.

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>>333416
>>333426

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>>333380
Hi hiro! Please notice me!

Well to be fair isn't making and posting a webm easier and quicker than uploading it to youtube? And it'd be a 10-30 second video anyways so it seems pointless to go through youtube just to post a link, instead of posting a webm here, where it's expected to be disposed of after the thread 404s.

Also what that guy said about needing a YT account.

>>333164
You mean like the thread watcher that we've had for years?

>>333037
Is this what you call sophistry?

>>333380
PRO-AUDIO FAGS BTFO

>>333380
Hiro please see >>333433
People love webm's on here. Adding sound to them is exactly what the people want. The majority of 4chan will tell you that. Also we can't embed Youtube videos on 4chan because we don't have that feature. 8ch has that though

>>333432
Just because you can expand YouTube videos (which is some of the dumbest fucking shit, really, because it just means that people don't feel the need to say anything about what they're _linking_ anymore in favor of just straight up linkspam) doesn't mean 4chan should simply become a video hosting service.

>>333443
>Also we can't embed Youtube videos on 4chan because we don't have that feature
What are you talking about dumbfuck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

>>333444
What part of WebM audio (allowed on /gif/ and /wsg/) being already DISABLED BY DEFAULT did you miss?

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>>333443
>Also we can't embed Youtube videos on 4chan because we don't have that feature.

>>333448
That has nothing to do with what I said.

>>333445
>>333449
No you jackasses its like what 8ch has, where in the image slot its the youtube video, not just the damn link.

>>333380
You need an account on Youtube.

I don't care that much though, since we've used sites like pomf on /jp/ for quite some time and they don't share the same file size restrictions as 4chan.

>>333452
4chan's way is better because you can embed a bunch of videos in one single post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPAG4RXbAtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLoFUEjlvUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNO6G4ApJQY
How's that a bad feature again?

>>333451
But what you said had nothing to do with my reply to begin with.

>>333452
What difference does it make, retard?

Just push the embed link and it turns into the exact same thing as 8ch's. Are you that lazy that you can't push a button?

>>333458
I said that 4chan shouldn't become a videoboard.

You told me that 4chan allows you to expand embedded YouTube links.

I told you that that feature still doesn't mean that 4chan should become a video hosting service.

You told me that audio is disabled by default, which means... ???????

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>>333380
Because sometimes videos aren't on YouTube, or they're too long, or too lewd. Webms don't take years to upload, and making accounts is no longer an issue. YouTube has endless solvable problems, which audion webms could fix. Disabling audio by default on them would immediately halt the effectiveness of screamers too.

>>333462
I quoted two posts.

>>333463
He should allow embed of other video sharing sites then, if that's the "problem".

>>333468
4chan X already does this.

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>>333468
Do you know how many there are out there? Wouldn't he keep having to update the list of embeddable ones as flavour-of-the-month file sharing sites fall in and out of fashion? That would surely take so much longer that just allowing sound on files which can already be posted anyway.

>>333468
he should just remove the embed feature

>>333475
This. So many files got lost when the original pomf site went down, unless if there's a back up i'm not aware of.

>>333478
>hai guise letz be dumb and remove of the most helpful feature on 4chweins, shall be kool rite???!!
This is you.

>>333478
He should just remove settings altogether. Settings such as quick reply and auto-update turned threads into chat rooms, hence quicker shitposting.

>>333475
You just enable it for the webm extension.

>>333481
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Pomf.se
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_pomf

>>333488
This is bait.

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>>333489
Huh. That's neat, didn't know about that. Was able to recover this beauty.

>>333495
Prove me wrong.

>>333495
If it's bait it's very good bait seeing as how it's not completely untrue.

Minor changes in site behavior lead to big behavioral changes. Massive generals became far more standard across 4chan after noko became the default. I think adding full videos to 4chan will lead the site in a direction I don't like and hence I'm against it.

>>333501
Why should I? The burden of proof is on you since you made the statement.

>>333502
Now this is just plain fearmongering.

>>333505
>Now this is just plain fearmongering.
Sometimes fear should be mongered.

>>333505
>Why should I? The burden of proof is on you since you made the statement.
I've already stated why it's true, you haven't stated why you think it's bait. Again, prove me wrong. You can't.

>>333380
Sorry man, but >>333421 is absolutely right.

Again, there is a good reason to not allow to post webms with sound?

>>333512
No, you stated your opinion, not a fact. Where is the evidence to support your claims?

>>333515
>Where is the evidence to support your claims?
General threads. moot has talked about threads like generals becoming chatrooms because of auto-update in his Q&A videos.

He also talked about how he had to modify post timers for boards about two years ago.

>>333513
>Again, there is a good reason to not allow to post webms with sound?
The addition of videos with sound to 4chan as the default will shift the norms to include posting and watching videos with sound. They will become intrinsic parts of posts in a way that external links never were.

This will subtly create deeper threaad investment, move 4chan away from the rapid-fire imageboard model, and anybody who doesn't want to watch embedded videos will essentially be left off the boat.

>>333520
But auto-update is not even enabled by default. And surely the fact that social media is so predominant to the point of people sharing 4chan stuff would influence the rise in activity, nay?

>>333502
It won't change shit other than having maybe more frequent webm threads

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:20:57 Post No.333526
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:20:57 Post No.333526 [Report]

I don't know why moot disable to upload webm with sound, though.
One thing is sure that to delete piracies take more time for your mods.
Much people complain of shortage of mods power.
It's getting worse, I think.

>>333522
>But auto-update is not even enabled by default.
No, but you can enable it by default.

>And surely the fact that social media is so predominant to the point of people sharing 4chan stuff would influence the rise in activity, nay?
Sure, but settings makes it easier for them to shitpost in threads and turn them into chatrooms.

>>333521
Rapid-fire imageboard model? What are you eating for breakfast?

>>333526
Then don't add so many boards.

Get rid of containment boards and ban furries and bronies.

Get more and better mods.

Add /l/ to keep more normalfags without anything of value to say at bay.

>>333526
He'd probably tell you if you asked, right? Unless he's in a cabin in the woods somewhere and nobody can reach him.

>>333529
It wasn't the best way of putting it. Basically the model where people rapidly float between many different threads and can scan through them quickly, as opposed to singularly invested general threads.

>What are you eating for breakfast?
Small children.

>>333533
>Get rid of containment boards and ban furries and bronies.
Were you around when moot created /mlp/? It wasn't because he was creating MORE work for the mods, that's for fucking sure.

>>333537
By appeasing to shitposters and normalfags, you're validating their presence here. You need to have a vast group of good mods to enforce the rules, not create boards to contain cancer.

>>333526
Delete a couple boards that we don't need, and hire more mods. It'll be easier for them since there wouldn't be as many boards to manage.

There's so many unneeded boards on 4chan, and It really separates the community even further when newer boards get added.

>>333533
>Get more and better mods.
Yeah, that's just not going to happen. Hard enough as it is to retain the current ones.

>>333526
You should give them to certain boards then.

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>>333489
>>333489
And sites without webm extensions? Sites that use any form of encryption? Like anon files dot com and the like? You can already link online files anyway, so if it had a .webm extension you can add it as a file to your post anyway, which then leads back to the no sound issue.

>>333526
Maybe it would be best to ask the mods or m00t himself these questions, anyone here will obviously have an agenda to push.

>>333541
If you axe boards you also axe the mods that come with those boards (or have those boards as their main interests). The mod-to-poster ratio remains the same.

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>>333542
Why?

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>>333176
>"hurr durr guise listen 2 muh mixtape" faggots ARE going to advertise here

They already do that, anon.

>>333550
Mods aren't board specific, they're global.

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>>333209
Really all it boils down to people saying change is bad.

Filthy Luddites.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:34:55 Post No.333560
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:34:55 Post No.333560 [Report]

>>333541
>hire more mods

hiring mods are not easy task.
Hiring untrained mods make you unfair ban and delete.
Also they would abuse capcode.

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>>333560
I'll be a mod for you if you want me to, Hiro, you absolute cutie.

>>333416
>and people will post full length movies split into many webms.

Fuck that, m8. How any posts would that take? Way more than an entire threads worth. It's just way too inefficient when you can just fucking torrent

>>333563
>being this new
It already happened

>>333561
Same here. Though giving my personal info does unsettle me.

>>333526
>>333560
If you want less mods to be able to do more work, you need to give them better tools.
Assuming things haven't changed recently I understand that 4chan mods/janitors only have a reports feed, an appeals feed, and manually browsing through boards looking for shit.
Adding something like reddit's "automoderator" would probably help out 4chan lot...

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>>333560
Bring back old mods then like modcat.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:39:07 Post No.333573
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:39:07 Post No.333573 [Report]

I think I have to solve the problems what only I can solve on 4chan.
But if someone think like "I don want to wait to upload on youtube.", it would not the problem I have to solve.
You may make a temporary account on dailymotions or youtube, then paste your link on 4chan.

4chan server resources and human resources are not unlimited.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:39:52 Post No.333575
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:39:52 Post No.333575 [Report]

>>333571
What is "automoderator?"

>>333573
Okay, thank you for listening, hiro.

>>333573
Enabling audio for webms won't change anything if you don't modify the size limit

If you don't want a YouTube account just upload to a Pomf clone.

>>333560
I wouldn't if you made me one >;^]]

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:41:38 Post No.333585
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:41:38 Post No.333585 [Report]

>>333577

please see:
>>333526

>>333560
Snacks did all those things and he was, in a certain way, the best mod we had.

>>333581
https://jii.moe

>>333526
>>333560

Ok, that's the first good reason I have read so far, thank you.

>>333573
hiro, would you consider looking at the points posted in >>333428? Just wondering why we'd need a fifth no board topic when we already have /b/, /r9k/, /qa/, and [s4s]. Do we really need another?

>>333575
https://www.reddit.com/wiki/automoderator
it's basically a robot moderator that you can set up certain rules like:
-delete all posts with "word"
-report posts with "word"
-if user links to some website, message them with a warning that that place should be avoided
basically a bunch of easily customizable scripts that do moderator duties that are repetetive

Hello Hiroyuki how are you today

>>333593
Imageboards already have word filters dumbass. They are useless anyway.
back to reddit

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>it's ogre

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>>333585
>thinking piracy is an issue

Please see
>>333182

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>>333591
This. As it currently is, /trash/ is a mistake.


Hiro, can you fix it before it develops it's own board culture? Once that develops, it's going to be impossible to fix /trash/.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:48:23 Post No.333608
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:48:23 Post No.333608 [Report]

>>333591
without you making threads, it's too slow.
Maybe someone makes off-topic threads on other boards to move them to /trash/.

>>333526
BTW, can you do a miracle for /a/?
As >>333572 said, there is an ex /a/'s mod that used that pic in his first post as mod (July 2009) . He was an awesome guy, one of the very few very reasonable mods who don't force their own preferences and really care about the community.
Make this miracle, bring him back, and you will save your souls.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:50:22 Post No.333617
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:50:22 Post No.333617 [Report]

>>333593
it sounds useful for text.
Most of mods works take time for images on 4chan, though.

>>333610
you will save *our souls.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:51:38 Post No.333624
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>>333595
doing good with Leffe.

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>>333624

Hiro, what do you think about pic related?

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:53:10 Post No.333629
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:53:10 Post No.333629 [Report]

>>333605
I'm not sure why you think impossible.

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>>333573
thank you! 4chan isn't a video board, it's an image board

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:53:55 Post No.333633
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:53:55 Post No.333633 [Report]

>>333610
I'm sorry I don't know who he is.

>>333626
I asked the same thing to moot a while ago but obviously he didn't even reply
A board for worksafe requests would be great

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>>333608
I still don't understand what /trash/'s intended use is. Would you mind clarifying?

If you can explain, maybe we can help you to that goal.

>>333629
Why not just delete the off-topic threads like always? /trash/ has little point and will become cancerous.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:54:27 Post No.333637
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:54:27 Post No.333637 [Report]

>>333626
I agree.

>>333617
Oh, crap, I didn't consider that.
In that case, you'd need some sort of image recognition system, which unfortunately is much harder. Even billion dollar corps struggle with it.
Bummer

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>>333637
Nice!

>>333593
>reddit
Jesus christ /qa/ is even worse than /q/

>>333631
you sure sound smart for an idiot

>>333526
Hiro you need to start hiring YOUR mods. You can't keep relying on moot's team. They're too small as it is and they have agendas. Bring in your own guys

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:56:34 Post No.333645
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:56:34 Post No.333645 [Report]

>>333635
Before /trash/, all of off-topic thread were deleted.
We think off-topic doesn't mean valueless.
Some off-topic threads are worth to survive somewhere.

>>333645
Is it true 2ch has a similar board?

>>333526
Also please consider increasing moderation on /v/, along with making a sticky like you did with /a/ clarifying what is and isn't allowed. And no you don't need to go to /v/ and ask them, in fact don't even bother because its shitposting central and they will derail your thread

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:57:28 Post No.333648
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 20:57:28 Post No.333648 [Report]

>>333638
I hope someone would invent.

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>>333626
And also this pic.
It's probably just my personal wish, because I don't see enough interested people, but I would like to read what you think about it.

>>333637
I love you.

>>333645
The only reason you made that board was so that horsefuckers could post their porn somewhere. Don't lie, Hiroshima.

>>333645
May I suggest you disable making threads on /trash/? It defeats the purpose of the whole thing. You'll just make it into another /s4s/. Also they still want /s4s/ unlisted like /trash/ currently is

>>333649
/int/ already covers it, and there's hardly any interest anyway.

>>333645
Not related, but,
is it true that a 2channer hijacked a bus in 2000?

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>>333645
しょうがない・・・

>>333645
Then you really should disable the creation of threads if that's the sole purpose of the board.

>>333633
He was the main mod of /a/ for 2009 and quit in 2011. He still comes here. He likes you and was defending you during the Q&A. He can pretty much fix all of /a/'s problems if he comes back.

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>>333640
Fuck off /tv/

>>333626
Please, do this

>>333629
Well if /trash/ is a garbage dump for off topic threads, I don't see why is thread creation enabled. That's why we have every other board, if not then why not merge every board into one.

We already have /s4s/ and /b/ for shitposting, and /trash/ is just going to become a pony/rule 34 porn dump board

Just delete all off topic threads like before and get rid of it before chaos ensues

>>333655
Google it you dozy cunt, stop wasting his time

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neomugicha_incident

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 21:00:49 Post No.333663
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>>333642
I don't care who hire them.
What we care is out goal, "making 4chan better place."
As long as the object is same as ours, no problem.

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>>333629
Once board culture develops, it will be impossible to remove/change anything. When it becomes too cancerous, we can't just simply delete the board, everyone else from that board would migrate to other ones, causing pain and disillusion.

I really don't want /trash/ to become another /r9k/ or a /b/.

/trash/ should exist, just not the way it currently is. Once the furries or the ponies take over, it's going to be an absolute hellhole.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 21:01:58 Post No.333666
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>>333646
it has.
moving feature will be used like moving a thread on /a/ to /jp/, something like that.

>>333661
>en.m.
JUST

>>333663
Hiro YOU have to hire them man. Its your site now, not moot's. And I understand making 4chan better believe me, I want this site to be better as well. But the problem reminds, we don't have enough mods to crack down on shitposting. /v/ and /tv/ are unbearable now because of shitposting. We have got to start enforcing the rules on this site to crack down on shit like that.

I know its a huge burden man and I know moot problem didn't tell you this shit going on, but we have to make changes. Bringing in mods YOU know and YOU trust will go a long way to helping the site get better.

>>333666
can you unlist [s4s] like how /qa/ and /trash/ aren't listed? >>>/s4s/3880720

>>333654
/int/ is a reddit shitposting board, I assume he's asking for a place to actually discuss things.

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Hiroyuki, I think you should avoid listening to what people on /qa/ say.

The only people who come to /qa/ are those with something to complain about. So there could be thousands of users happy with how things are, but less than 100 who are unhappy, and those 100 would come to /qa/ and shitpost about their personal complaints for weeks, even if 95% of people don't want any change.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 21:03:24 Post No.333674
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>>333649
probably, not many people use the language board.
But it's valuable.

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>>333663
Very nice

>>333626
>worksafe /t/
Sounds like someone didn't read /t/'s rules

>>333671
>unlist [s4s]
...why?
that's so dumb
[s4s] is doing fine

>>333635
People riot less when their threads are moved.

>>333674
You do know that 4chan used to have a /lang/ board, right? It was one of the text boards hosted on dis.4chan.org, and they are all gone now.

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 21:04:53 Post No.333682
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hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 21:04:53 Post No.333682 [Report]

>>333653
if too much spam or furs, we'll make rules on /trash/

>>333661
I saw that, dumb mobileposter, but it's fucking wikipedia, you can't trust wikipedia.

>>333679
>4chan used to have a /lang/ board
and it was absolutely dead.

>>333663
Also if you feel that way, get the mods on the same page as you. Let them know "I own the site now, not moot. You will get on the same page as me or you're gone, simple as that".

The nipple fiasco on /a/ is a perfect example of a mod who went rouge against you. You can't have that shit happen. You own the site, lay down the laws man

>>333683
Whatever you don't trust you can follow the source for.

>>333682
Perfect. Like I suggested, disable making threads on /trash/. It should only be used to dumping off-topic or threads such as e-celeb on /v/. Seriously though please tell the mods to get rid of e-celeb threads and move them to /trash/? They're off topic and no one on /v/ likes them

>>333645
Hiro, that's a good idea and all, and everybody liked that idea, the problem is that a couple of huge groups of people are going to turn it into their own board, soon it will become a specific board like every other else.

>>333685
The Japanese language thread was a useful resource and you could get questions answered in depth there if you needed.

Granted, it was about 50 times slower than the /a/ thread, and everything else was dead.

>>333679
Why not have language discussion on /his/?

>>333682
why is loli & shota banned from /trash/ but it's filled with pony porn? aren't they all just cartoon drawings?

>>333685
Because it was a text board

>>333691
>everybody liked that idea
I don't like the name. /trash/ is 5 letters, that's way too long

>>333691
I just visited and it's a complete fuckfest but it's still a pretty diverse fuckfest.

>>333695
I still want a loli board. Hiro just so you know 2D loli and shota are not illegal in the US. The servers are hosted over here not in say Canada where its illegal

>>333695
Because loli isn't trash.

>>333698
This. /off/ would have been better, but it's not a big deal.

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>>333702
Nice

>>333678
see
>>323121
and
>>>/s4s/3889144

>>333705
Even /z/ would've worked.

>>333708
/z/ used to be for other stuff though

WEBM ISN'T EVEN SUPPORTED ON ALL BROWSERS

moot fucked up. Why did he add webm-support? Was he bribed?

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>>333707
I don't think you get [s4s], friend ;]]

>>333714
4chan pretty much spearheaded webm usage across the entire internet, give it time

>>333713
I think everyone just wants the beecock to return.

>>333701
Server's location doesn't mean shit if you'd have sitewide block in some countries because of it.

>>333707
>I feel that unlisting [s4s] is necessary to protect the board's constructive community
lol
The board is the exact same dumb shit as it was when I browsed it 2 years ago, it's just dumb reposts and forced memes while thinking you're being clever or "ironic".
There is nothing constructive or high quality about it.

>>333714
Images aren't supported on all browsers so I guess he should remove image support too.

>>333722
It used to be there a few months ago

>>333682
Thanks. Another good feature would be to show the original board name for moved threads.

Right now, it's hard to tell the moved threads and user created threads apart, so showing the original board name would clear this up.

>>333714
His "rule" was that if two major browsers supported a file format, it would be added to 4chan.
Although it seemed like the real reason webm was actually added was because /q/posters begged hard enough

>>333714
http://caniuse.com/#feat=webm

>>333727
If anything the confusion would prevent the board for stratifying, which most people seem to think is desirable.

>>333722
>only the beecock
I want the whole board to return.

>>333732
is that really you, or just a hacked trip?

>>333526
>I don't know why moot disable to upload webm with sound, though.
I think he mentioned it in his last QA. Can't remember the exact line but it was something like
>WebM on 4chan isn't supposed to be used for video, it's meant as an enhanced gif, therefore no audio.

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>>333732
>Soviet Russia
Oh wow, it really is you(?)

>>333605
>>333636
>>333660
>>333665
>people wanting the literal trash board to have rules
>people endlessly assblasted over furries and bronies going to the trash
Are you people retarded? Its the trash board, its supposed to be cancerous, its supposed to hold shit nobody wants
>Why people can make new threads on /trash/
Remove the option and people will shitpost their own boards just so they can be moved to /trash/, literally nothing changes, all the extra shitposting happening now is the usual "new board chaos" that happens during the first days, give it a week before it cools down
>the community would migrate if the board got deleted
It would just be regular shitposting though, its not like we are dealing with ponyposting here, and only a idiot would take a joke board like /trash/ this seriously

Also Hiro, please don't add name fields to trash, could you instead add something so we can know where the thread was originally redirected from? it can get a bit confusing sometimes

>>333735
>>333739
The trip was cracked a long time ago. It's not him.

>>333735
>>333739
His trip was cracked in 2004/5. It was even banned for a while.
I wonder where are the old mods nowadays, like Man of Wax, Soviet, etc...

>>333744
Thats what I thought.

>>333742
>all the extra shitposting happening now is the usual "new board chaos" that happens during the first days
Can confirm, the same thing could've been observed when moot invited the whole site to shitpost in /pol/. After a week nobody gave a shit anymore.

>>333742
>Its the trash board, its supposed to be cancerous, its supposed to hold shit nobody wants
No, it's a board for off-topic posts. The boards you're talking about are /b/, /qa/, and [s4s].

>Remove the option and people will shitpost their own boards just so they can be moved to /trash/
Read the /trash/ sticky. It says that a lot of threads will be deleted like normal, but only a few will make it to /trash/.

The mods will can easily tell what threads are trying to get /trash/ed and which ones aren't.

>>333750
>After a week nobody gave a shit anymore.
The board has been pure shitposting for months, now it's normal shitposting but it's still much worse compared to before and that's saying a lot
Now if you want to post on /pol/ you go to 8 chan

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-08 21:28:36 Post No.333759
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>>333737
thanks

>>333748
Well, they've got to be in their 30s by now. I'd like to say they've moved on.

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>>333759
Hiroyuki, will you be my boyfriend?

>>333674
Thanks, man.

>>333672
>/int/ is a reddit shitposting board

This, exactly.

>I assume he's asking for a place to actually discuss things.

Yep, to actually discuss and learn, something like the Daily Japanese Threads on /a/.

>>333693
/his/ is about ancient languages, and that's how it should be.
But, yeah, better using /his/ than /int/ in any case.

>>333759
Can you at least bring back visible sage?

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>>333762
Anon pls

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>>333526
>>333573
>Hiro can't even add fucking sound to webm,

BRAVO 4KEKS

So are we getting sound webms or not?
It manages to work with those 8ch faggots so what the fuck is stopping us?

>>333759
Can you give me the new position of admin

I will gladly take your job if you ever want.

>>333789
It's not just 8ch, pretty much any active imageboard has sound webms.

WebM with audio would be a big improvement to this site.

>>333759
please return the email field and subject-in-reply fields
you said you wanted more fun on 4chan and those were useless-but-fun features that had no reason to be removed

>>333793
Seriously, for fucks sake Hiro.

Throw that "ITS AN IMEG BORED NOT VIDO BORED" logic out right now and do something about the fact we're technologically lacking right now.

>>333795
>>333793
Seriously Hiro, why the fuck can't we do this?

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>>333759
Hello there Admin Hiro!

I see you are posting on a thread on /qa/ The Questions and Answers board of The 4Chan!

As you may have noticed from your previouos encounters and posts, when you take a part of the community, the community notices and as such welcomes your feedback!

Thank you for continuing to listen to The Community!

Please continue to enjoy managing and running The 4Chan!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAIGb1lfpBw

>>333800
This. Sometimes I miss the possibility to have a Subject in replies.

>>333803
>youtube link

Why didn't you just use a WebM with sound? Oh wait! Never mind! THat's right!...

>>333803
You are the worst tripfag

>>333802
Because of the stupid faggots telling him that piracy is a worry, even though 8ch hasn't been shut down yet, and that its not needed, which is an even fucking worse argument because nothing is ever needed

>>333808
lol guy

>>333812
Because those faggots are probably from Reddit. Seriously Hiro ignore those that complain about the piracy thing. Just add them back in

>>333793
>>333795
Literally this

I've seen a few active imageboards with sound webms and the things moot complained about were never a problem. You might have a bunch of edgy faggots posting screamers in the first few days but as long as the length and filesize limits are still in place 4chan won't become a "video sharing website" like he said.

>>333820
4chan already disables WebM audio by default (since it's allowed on /gif/ and /wsg/).

>>333808
>Why didn't you just use a WebM with sound?
Why waste site's resources when linking a youtube video is a win-win for both sides? He doesn't have to reupload it and even our dial-up users can enjoy it, albeit at 144p/15FPS

>>333824
>our dial-up users
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

>>333812
To be fair, 4chan is bigger than 8ch, and it could easily attract much more attention from whoever check the piracy issues on those sites.

>>333809
Please let me know how to improve, since I am here to answer questions and help you users out.

Do I need more images of cute grills or do I need to tone down my rhetoric?

After all, I am here to serve You.

>>333824
>why waste the sites resources
8ch is fucking grasping for straws when it comes to users, yet they can fucking handle Webms with sound.

Why the fuck are you so defense about people simply asking for Webms to have sound?

>>333737
Jesus, thanks for reminding us what kind of winged faggot Moot was.

>>333837
Consider sudoku

>>333824
Yeah, why don't you go through the struggle of making a Google Plus account instead of doing something that works literally anywhere else?

Fuck off.

>>333834
>it could attract more attention
They already got shit on for some CP issues, I think they have more attention then we do.

>>333839
>8ch is fucking grasping for straws when it comes to users, yet they can fucking handle Webms with sound.
You said it, they have 10 users in total so they can easily handle even a filesharing service without noticeable issues.

>>333817
> Hiro ignores those that complain about the piracy thing.
>After 4 months 4chan gets closed.

>>333737
>ITS SUPPOSED TO ENHANCE AUDIO, WHY THE FUCK WOULD I USE ITS POTENTIAL TO THE MAXIMUM

Was moot this much of a fucking idiot?

>>333840
Moot was just cautious about changing things. I think we would have gotten him to add it eventually.

>>333526
>>333573
Please just add sound Webm's again. The fact that most other chan sties do this and we can't is a fucking embarrassment

>>333854
moot just didn't care anymore, when he did something it was usually bad
Hiro is unexpectedly doing much better, I don't care if he sells posts or gets money to hand out bans

>>333852
Maybe enable audio only on less busy boards?

>>333846
>10 users in total
As funny as that is, they have a lot more in total. They're able to handle 8GB webms and 5 pictures all well, even with a small populace thats a fucking lot to handle.

How come An Hiro can't even handle something as simple as Webms with sound?

>>333852
>4 months 4chan gets closed
>for the same thing 8ch allows

Those fucking 8gaggers are probably laughing at the fact people ITT are begging to keep the site downgraded.

>>333852
Why not just revert the change if it becomes a problem?

Also, is /wsg/ getting an unmanageable number of DMCAs? We don't need to speculate on this.

>>333824
>Why waste site's resources
The filesize limit wouldn't need to change, you idiot. And even then 4chan uses cloudflare which means each file only needs to be downloaded once from their server.

>>333803
This is cringeworthy

>>333867
Anon, the huge sites are the ones that get closed or blocked for piracy, not the little ones nobody gave a shit about.

>>333869
>Also, is /wsg/ getting an unmanageable number of DMCAs? We don't need to speculate on this.

The problem is the quantity, one little board is one thing, many boards, with some huge boards among them, is a different matter.

>>333876
8ch is the second biggest imageboard now

I get the feeling that not a lot of people ITT are aware that /gif/ and /wsg/ have both had audio-enabled WebMs for close to a year now, and in that time none of the issues that opponents of WebMs with sound bring up have actually happened there.

>>333867
Why don't you go back there, shitter?

>>333842
Haha. Yes. Good answer.

However, I do exist specifically to answer questions and give tutorials to folk who are looking for ways to interact with the website.

In that I am a product of and for The Users. If you do not like who I am, then please by all means tell me what I can improve on so that I may continue to help you.

>>333871
I apologize if you find my responses silly. Please give feedback so I know how to respond better to your questions and my responses to others. Thank you!

>>333893
Which is literally falling apart because HotWheels didn't take care of the site. Now they're moving over to some new layout which is still in the early stages because the site is so terminally ill

>>333934
How is it falling apart?

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>>333658
I really miss him.

> He still comes here.

Next time, If you can, tell him that there are people who miss him, and that the whole board needs him.

>>333918
>WHY DON'T YOU GO TO THE TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR WEBSITE IF YOU HATE BEING DOWNGRADED

This is what you sound like right now desu

>>333934
It doesn't matter, none of that has to do with legal issues more then technical ones.

You faggots shouldn't be worried about piracy when it is already really fucking hard to put a movie into Webm.

>>333658
>>333942
People like you who think there's a legendary mod who could come back and fix all the problems with a board (A-san, WT Snacks, etc.) are really retarded. A-san resigned after doing something insanely stupid and unbecoming of a moderator, and doesn't deserve to come back. Not that I think he even wants to.

>>333947
Exactly. If it's so superior, fuck back there and stop bothering us. Everybody will be happier that way.

>>333876
>not the little ones no one gives a shit about

They literally just got in trouble for CP. Stop making fucking excuses.

>>333950
>anyone who dare ask the board to have better technology should fuck off to 8ch

These are the people you are listening to, Hiro.

>>333892
>if we enable audio on big boards, then everyone is going to do illegal things

This is the dumbest logic I have ever heard. What is stopping people from spamming illegal shit on those smaller boards?

>>333118
sauce?

>>333948

As I said, he's one of the very few reasonable mods and really cared about the community.
If with "legendary" you mean one of the few people of this shithole suitable for that job, yeah, I think so.

>come back and fix all the problems with a board

Not all, but he can fix some problems for sure, especially when right now the current mods are one of the many problems.

But, anyway, enjoy blowing what I said out of proportion again, it seems that it makes you feel smarter.

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>>333748
I want to know what happened to shut. I know he was at the 2013 4chan Anniversary panel but I'm curious to know if 4chan was the only relevant thing he's ever done, besides wearing cool shirts.

>>333759
Can you atleast add apng support, seeing as how apng is superior to gifs in everyway, and you don't have to deal with the hassle of WEBM video tainting your precious imageboard. It's the healthy medium!

>>334370
>let's add support for a format that no one uses!
http://caniuse.com/#feat=apng

Is he gone?

>>334414
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+time+is+in+japan%3F&ia=time

>>333663
I wanna hug a Hiro

Hiro please dont add sound to all boards
Once you let that cat out of the bag you cant get him back in

>>334470
>fearmongering based on lies

>>334472
you want john cenas and snakhbars everyother post or how about extremely loud porn and gorry headshots because thats the future youll get.

>>334486
How can anyone be this new? Read the fucking thread regarding the current state of WebM audio.

>>334488
>How can anyone be this new?
Im asking the same thing
>Read the fucking thread regarding the current state of WebM audio.
be careful what you wish for

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>>333629
>>333637

On the topic of >>>/trash and extra boards

You really do need to watch out for this, extra boards are not necessarily a fix to problems relating to clashing content, otherwise you will have people asking for boards for every topic.

/his was needed, i'd argue that /aco wasn't as it could fit onto /b and a few other boards fine (though as a /co user it was good to have everyone posting porn go away after years of dealing with all their strange fetishes). /trash as a postable board isnt needed (see below), requests can be made in current /wsg threads that have similar content topics or even have a single dedicated request thread in /wsg, it doesn't need a whole board, that just means more server resources and more moderators.

>>333645

>Some off-topic threads are worth to survive somewhere.

Problem here is, you don't recognise that some are valueless threads that should simply be deleted. Good examples are the clop, fury and spam threads that are now dominant on the new board, and ontop of that, you dont want to encourage people posting off topic threads.

Also, a friendly hint from an oldfag, if you want to keep such a board that's completely fine, i do agree sometimes there may be off topic threads that retain some use, but, make it so people cant post threads on the board and that only janitors and moderators can move topics to there. Leave posting in such threads open to anyone, then the discussion can continue, just restrict the creation of new threads.

As someone has said, if you let people post what they want on there, #1 it looses its original purpose because it turns into /b 2.0, instead of it being filled with topics that have some value it will instead be filled with fury and clop porn threads. #2, dont let it get its own culture, when that happens it makes it incredibly hard to delete or reform such a board without loads of people complain about it, best example is when /new was deleted and the annoyed users that spammed everywhere.

>>333037
4MB webms will never be youtube. This will always be it's own place and thing.

>>333648
Have you tried pHash?
http://www.phash.org/

>>334370
>>334391
It's more accurate to say that APNG on 4chan is blocked.

>>333029
Audio is literally meme. Increase the filesize of all of the files instead.

>>333380
I agree with this comment, new best friend!

>>333608
>Maybe someone makes off-topic threads on other boards to move them to /trash/.
lmao I love you

>>334495
Read this to yourself, typos and all.

WEBM'S ARE AUTOMATICALLY SILENCED!

Enable audio.

>>333648
4chan already hashes pictures, you could just ban hashes of pictures

>>335328
If I remember correctly, some time ago a wrong image was banned because it had the same hash as another image. I think it was then said that this could be solved with better hash algorithms.

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>>333526
>I don't know why moot disable to upload webm with sound, though.
http://blog.4chan.org/post/81896300203/webm-support-on-4chan explains it:

"We decided to disallow WebM files with sound for a few reasons, but mainly because it’s our intention to provide the site with better animated images, and not true video support. To that end, we only accept WebM files with one video stream and no audio streams, that are shorter than 120 seconds long, no larger than 2048x2048 pixels, and less than 3 MB in size."

hiroyuki ## Admin 2015-11-09 20:19:32 Post No.335683
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>>335668
Thanks a lot.

>>335683
Hey, you're welcome, man.

>>333040
It would also mean traffic is paid by 4chan instead of Google.

>>334784
just because something is silent does not mean the content isnt going to be SHIT

or are you to dense to realize that?
baka

>>335683
You're a nice guy, Hiro.

What's the best way to contact you for problems unrelated to this thread?

>>335683
I have cancer

>>335751
he only gives out his number to his bros
we text each other good morning and good night every day

>>335683
Please consider bringing back visible sage. At least for /a/ and /jp/ since these boards are the ones that really appreciate and use sage.

>>335683
please enable livestreaming on /qa/, hiro.

here:
>>335560

Please allow audio at least on the following boards:
>/trash/ so videos moved there from boards with audio can retain their sounds
>/vg/ so /agdg/ (no?)devs can show off sounds and music in their games (with no need to use third-party services)
>[s4s] so ebin OC movies, music videos and other stuff with sound can be posted (with no need to use third-party services)

>>333560
>Also they would abuse capcode.

Abuse in what sense? People have been complaining that there's practically no user-staff communication in years.

Why do you think people are so fond of you? You actually talk to us.

>>333573
>>333526
Hiro, 4chan can't change a .webm with sound's filesize.

To do that you'd need to reencode the file entirely and that kills the webm.

4chan merely disables the audio, you can download the file and reenable in fact.

Don't forget that 4chan has a max file size limit too.

Webm's were never used for piracy, webms are videos, nobody will store music in videos. The file size is also limited so people can't really pirate anime & such with it.

moot disabled it because he though imageboards should be only about images, which is dumb because /g/, /tg/ and many other boards support many non-standard file formats.

>>333663
> "making 4chan better place."

Hiro, many in the staff have preconceptions about the site and will choose bad solutions for 4chan's problems.

You are one of the few staff members that cares about 4chan in general. Most staff cares about 4chan being something that fits their beliefs about the site. They have grown complacent.

>>337711
>To do that you'd need to reencode the file entirely and that kills the webm.
Stripping the audio stream takes as much processing power as creating a thumbnail, you don't need to reencode shit.

>>333648
Hiro, 4chan already has a tool that does this, doesn't it? That one .webm that started the whole nipplemod fiasco got filtered for a few days until the situation ended.

http://desustorage.org/a/thread/132510098/#132521789

The only difference between the automoderator and what 4chan has right now (as far as I know) is that it can automatically report users that type certain phrases. I'm pretty sure the options is there to ban people who type phrases or just prevent them from posting that phrase (like how you used to not be able to post "reddit").

As for the topic: I've said this before but I really don't want audio webms unless the waveform is displayed in some way.

>>337711
>nobody will store music in videos
There are literally millions of YouTube videos that consist of a song next to a static image.

>>337757
on webm videos that you post on 4chan. there's not point in doing that for something that is ephemeral and has a limited file size

>>333462
You are very stupid.

>>333670
>>333686
>>337711
These. Thanks for writing these posts.
Hiro listen to them, they are saying that for this site and for you as well.

>>335683
Hiro, people are asking about visible sage.

Forget about them.

What we need is automatic sage.

People would have to write "age" in options in order to bump a thread.

>>333608

This might sound crazy, but what if you limit the threads created in /trash/ so that it's something like 1 or 2 native threads per moved thread?

>>337891
I like it.

>>337891
That's crazy in a good way.
But audio for Webm first!

>>337784
Hiro is not some random guy off the streets who somehow got the 4chan, I suppose he knows quite well what to do and what not with his moderation team.

Hiro when are you gonna bring back /l/ lolicon board.

It is allowed because it is posted on /b/.

>>333725
>There is nothing constructive or high quality about it.
You probably aren't seeing all the posts.

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