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TODAY'S MAPS >[OCT 19] South&Eeast #Aleppo Military situation Map Heavy clashes still going on in several axes - HD http://s2.img7.ir/PhV19.jpg >NEW MAP: Military situation in southern rural Aleppo https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/655775902173962240 >SAA/NDF captured "Fuel hill" near Khan Thuman https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/655826719878852608 >Confirmed now SAA captures #Burayjah on their way to lift siege of Kuweiris https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/655364300522037248 >Breaking : Confirmed now SAA Captures Al Halabiyah & Dakwanah, 6km away from Kuweiris https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/655432641068580864 >Breaking : SAA Captures Al Muflisah & Sab‘īn Town on their way to Kuweiris https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/655854218318888960 >Russian military map of Syria https://i.imgur.com/ugR3Lve.jpg >SAA capture Al Muflisah and Sab'in (marked with red stars on the map) on the way to Kweires airbase https://twitter.com/syriaalasadua/status/655874364630552576 >SAA/Hezbollah/NDF backed by RuAF attacking Al-Mansoura village Ghab-Plain + Military Situation https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/656098442599649280 >Loyalist offensive in South #Aleppo (Situation Oct 19, 2015) / HD http://www.agathocledesyracuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/South-Aleppo-19-Oct-2015.jpg
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Mark Harding seems to still be obsessing over the terrorist group that calls itself ISIL(ISIS) and we are concerned that he might try something in the near future. He is fanatically defending this organization on an internet imageboard called 4chan(Politically Incorrect board). We as concerned citizens who possess common sense would like to warn you to keep an eye on this shady individual.
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>>54001439 Same old, same old, I guess. There is some fee's protest going on at the universities. Not sure if it will get uglier before it gets better. Other than that quite the same.
Malema? He's been out of the picture for a while, altho I suspect he has his hand in the student protests. He is a lot of fun, sometimes I wonder whose useful idiot he is, and then other times I wonder who would want him as their idiot.
>UN inquiry finds 'massive evidence' that president is responsible for crimes against humanity as conflict's death toll hits 126,000
>The UN commissioner's statement, reported from Geneva, coincided with the publication of a new death toll of 125,835 for the last 33 months. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), based in the UK, said the dead included 44,381 civilians, including 6,627 children and 4,454 women. The SOHR said at least 27,746 opposition fighters had been killed, among them just over 19,000 civilians who took up arms to fight the Assad regime. The opposition toll also included 2,221 army defectors and 6,261 non-Syrians who joined the rebels.
>The United Kingdom-based SOHR is run out of a two-bedroom terraced home in Coventry by one person, Rami Abdulrahman, a Syrian Sunni Muslim who also runs a clothes shop. After three spells in prison in Syria, Abdulrahman came to Britain in 2000 fearing a longer, fourth jail term.
>>54001661 >ublication of a new death toll of 125,835 for the last 33 months. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), based in the UK, said the dead included 44,381 civilians, including 6,627 children and 4,454 women. The SOHR said at least 27,746 opposition fighters had been killed, among them just over 19,000 civilians who took up arms to fight the Assad regime >civilians who took up arms >civilians >MUH PEACEFUL PROTESTERS
there's so much wrong with this i dont even know where to begin. Lets start with the easiest part 27k of 125k confirmed even by UN/SOHR to be combatants. That's more than twice as good as the US drone project which sports 90%+ "collateral"
125k dead, 44k civs, 27k fighters, that's 71k. what happened to the other 54k? Are we only counting civilians and fighters who died to government force, and the others remain unnamed?
Last but not least: eternal anglos who have historically lied and fabricated evidence for every Middle East adventure presenting condemning evidence against Assad! kek, absolute truth surely
>>54002096 Well, considering how rpg SHELLS contain a folded katana cone that is shot forth by the power of jet fuel to speeds that exceed even sonics erection, id say the tank would be sucked into a black hole.
Shaped jetfuelkatana charges are fucking devastating. Jetfuel first melts the steel to a melting temperature, then the katana penetrates the tank, and any other tanks that are behind it.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/mar/05/russia.chechnya >Revealed: Russia's worst war crime in Chechnya
>Vladimir Putin is the new hero of Russian democracy, courted by Western leaders. He is also responsible for one of the most savage atrocities since the Second World War. John Sweeney is the first journalist to reach the devastated village of Katyr Yurt, where 363 people were slaughtered by Russian forces
>Could the Russians have mistaken the white-flag convoy for fighters? 'No, they couldn't mistake us. They knew very well there were a lot of refugees: 16,000 refugees and 8,000 locals in the village. In front of us was a big car full of children, not grown-ups. They burnt before my eyes.'
>And then the cover-up began: 'The Russians wouldn't allow the people in the village to collect the bodies. They only allowed people on the fifth day to go and collect the bodies. When people arrived there, they asked: "Where are the bodies of our people?" The Russians said some had already been burnt. People say the Russians took the bodies and threw them in a mass grave.'
>>54002602 Then why did the germans use jet fuel in their panzerfausts, HUH? They even imported ORIGINAL grlorious nippon steel folded 1000 times to make those weapons... You clearly know nothing of this world, human!
The central bank’s “risk scenario” talks of a new era of sub-$40 crude that would entrench the current depression. “Under these conditions, GDP could fall by more than 5pc in 2016,” it said.
Mr Putin claims to have an ace up his sleeve: Russia will fall back on industrial self-reliance and import substitution. “Our policies are not frozen. They adapt to circumstances,” he said. The Kremlin is launching a radical plan to slash imports across twenty key sectors within five years, ranging from heavy machinery to electrical engineering, photonics, cars, tractors, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, and food.
The targets are drastic. Reliance on foreign farm and forestry machinery is to be cut by 56pc, food processing by 53pc, and engineering equipment by 34pc. State procurement contracts will be steered to companies that produce in the country, whether or not they compete on quality.
Russia is pressing ahead with massive rearmament, pushing defence spending towards 5pc of GDP and risking the sort of military overstretch that bankrupted the Soviet Union. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute said the military budget for 2014 rose 8.1pc in real terms to $84bn as the Kremlin took delivery of new Su-34 long-range combat aircraft and S-400 surface-to-air missile systems.
It is to rise by another 15pc this year, led by a 60pc surge in arms procurement. This is an astonishing ambition at a time when the economy is in deep crisis, contracting by 4.6pc over the last twelve months.
Trade experts are already shaking their heads. Such a reflex usually means a country is going badly off the rails, though Germany pulled it off with macabre success in the 1930s. “In most of the cases I have known import substitution policies have failed. They degrade the economy," said Pascal Lamy, former head of the World Trade Organisation.
>>54003143 so far we are doing pretty good, I may say. Yeah, ruble/dollar exchange rate has doubled, but prices on the local market only rose by 15-30 percent. So yes, we became slightly poorer, but not africa-poor. Also, it seems like our economy already started recovering. Our GDP per capita on the same level as in Brasil or China. Still 4x times better than Ukrainian. I pity them, they thought that they were backed by EU & USA, and it turned out that they were simply used to create image of evil Russia with the goal to increase military complex budget.
>>54003856 At least one Arab government[which?] has accused Qatar of helping al-Nusra. According to the Al-Ahram Weekly, "The Saudis and Qataris are to provide funding for 40 per cent of the [Army of Conquest] coalition’s needs". The US Government has been sending weapons to rebels in Syria since at least late 2013, and perhaps as early as 2012, during the begininning phases of the conflict. These weapons have been reportedly falling into hands of extremists, such as al-Nusra and ISIL. It has also been argued that the Iranian government has supported the group. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front#External_support
>>54004233 >give toyotas and weapons to moderate rebels >ISIS suddenly driving a whole lot of toyotas It's true, we have no proof you are supporting terrorists. you are only supporting moderate rebels who are happy merchants.
>>54003856 You're one dumb cunt aren't you. You've been proven so in the last thread already yet you continue to whine and ask for it again. Here you go faggot >>53997026
If it's so hard for you to understand the implications of the "5 guys" phrase from top Pentagon officials mouth I'll simplify it to you: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MODERATE OPPOSITION IN SYRIA, PERIOD. Nusra and the likes are branches of AlQaeda. Now go on and continue shilling for your favorite beheading brigade, retard.
>>54004233 Here, nice, liberal, mainstream link for you. >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11784872/US-trained-Syrian-rebels-say-they-wont-fight-al-Qaeda-affiliate-Jabhat-al-Nusra.html Shut your ears and pretend you don't listen or cry yourself to sleep tonight, idc.
>>54004384 The [CURRENT YEAR] maymay actually fits here because the burgercuck is repeating debunked arguments from several years ago
It doesn't matter how moderate the rebels are, the fact is the two biggest players in the region are ISIS and Assad. If you defeat one the other will take advantage of the power vacuum. So unless anyone is going to argue ISIS is a better alternative than Assad, we need to shut the fuck up and support Assad. It's the quickest way to end this conflict, save Syrian lives, and end the refugee crisis the rest of /pol/ is busy cucking on and on about
>>54004507 I honestly don't give a shit about any of thes epeople because instea dof using their training and wepaons to protect their land and the people, they decided to act out a petty feud and killing for the simple sake of violence.
you can give a gun to anyone, but only a true faggot goes on to murder innocent people.
>>54004335 Yes, the people that Assad was killing.
>>54004379 One guy said something about what 'he thinks we could do. Yeah, it's nothing.
>>54004507 >Many rebels, however, were rejected from the training due to a vetting process that filtered out fighters with links to hardline groups. Others refused to participate after being told they could not engage Mr Assad’s troops and instead would focus only on Isil.
Some rebels said they wouldn't fight AlNusra after we had already trained them (if true)
>>54005437 Or, how about we let them there alone to kill themselves? We don't accept them here and we don't arm them Just, you know, let them rot in their fucking desert, instead of trying to be friendly and making deals with them for "dem oil" and then having those deals literally blowing up on our faces. Fucking interventionism gives more problems than it solves.
>>54005051 A+ post. thank you Russia for bringing us small drone pov angles. I'm excited to see videos pov from a drone as it enters into a group of combatants and they all flip it trying to slap it down whiel a group of Russian mother fuckers come in to do some business
>yfw youll get to see someone freak out over a drone before being blown to pieces by artillery, in 4k hd
>>54005912 Apparently you only watched titles. Alright, found a shorter video if you can't stomach seeing Putin's face, which aren't even very relevant to my post. It was merely an addition to consider after realizing that so-called 'moderate opposition' do not exist in Syria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwxmjs0TKkI
>>54005787 Well, if they don't stay to themselves and attack us, we glass their fucking backward asses to the stone age. Simple as that, terrorism is a act of war. If you brave the bull, prepare to suffer its horns >Implaying they wouldn't kill themselves without training and weapons like Humanity has always done We don't need some next gen guns and SEAL training They can choke up on their sand for all I care
>>54006711 >And enjoy your subpar shitty products that lost 40% of quality at least. Who cares? Obsession with mass produced consumer goods is the single worst thing that happened to humanity in recent history.
>The US thinks that Syrian President Bashar Assad has a role to play in the transitional process in the country.Eureka! State Dept Says Assad May Remain in Power for Transitional Period http://sputniknews.com/us/20151019/1028775877/assad-syria-transition-power.html so, after rebels were BTFO, backtracking from their sponsors has begun.
Here are some vidyas to help'ya'all ( see what I did there? ) unner'stan'ah.
In one of these captogon vidya's there's a captured syrain rebel ( a moderate I believe ) who explains that his commander told him and all the other foot soldiers that it was not against the koran for him, the commander to fuck them all in the arse. And apparently he did!!
>>54004894 >Pentagon starts program to train "rebels against" Assad >Expects thousands to be a part of the program >Screens through thousands of potential candidates >Finds less than a hundred of them that fit their definition of "moderate" after an entire year of searching >Most of those rebels entered Syria and immediately gave their weapons to al-qaeda >"b-but they are moderates, really! i know this because obama told me! stop using evidence against me reeeeeee"
>>54007176 you are speaking like idealist, who believes that everyone around him is pure and honest. That's simply not true. If you limit access to some goods, the demand will stay, so you'll simple create a reason to escalate smuggling, corruption, black market etc. And this will divide society (because some people will have access to illegal goods while others don't) and shatter the state. It already happened once.
>>54007597 I don't think such goods should be banned. Rather. marginalize them. For example, gradually transition to a new electronic currency system, which cannot be exchanged and can only be used to buy certain state-mandated goods. The old currency stays, and can still be used to purchase whatever people want, but since a larger part of their income is in the new currency, they would buy things state wants them to buy as a first choice. This protects local producers without eliminating access to whatever fancy stuff people may want.
>>54007533 >Story line doesn't even exist. Really though? You didn't mention Bleach, so I assume you approve of the Bleach storyline that is quite literally aimed towards teenagers, unlike Attack on Titan that has adult themes. >Begging to be underage banned
>>54007254 >transitional period meaning until next election at that point we will learn if the things the army has been fighting for over 5-6 years are identical to what the constitution says (and which version, the old one or the one changed to end predefined Baath party rule in 2012)
>>54008124 >You mean it caters to your vore fetish. Not so much really. Not gonna pretend I'm not a sick fuck, but I never really understood the vore fetish, I enjoy anime's that have serious themes, unlike these Naruto/Bleach faggots. >Monster >Attack on Titan
>>54008081 ISIS tried to attack it twice in the past couple of weeks and ended up getting completely destroyed both times. Russian air support was used but it wasn't as common as in other fronts. Some reports suggest that the deir ezzor airport will soon be used by Russia to launch attacks on isis in the region
>>54007961 >>If you limit access to some goods, the demand will stay, so you'll simple create a reason to escalate smuggling, corruption, black market etc. >I don't think such goods should be banned. Rather. marginalize them.
It's almost as if you didn't even read what he wrote to you. Nobody said anything about "banning". "Marginalizing" IS "limiting access". Your manyacurrency wouldn't prevent black market with other currencies and valuables and power abuse, etc. Go read a book, Glaziev.
>>54007961 >I don't think such goods should be banned. Rather. marginalize them. you seriously think that would work? how? if I love parmesan I won't settle from cheap half-cheese made from dry milk and palm oil, I'll pay twice the price if needed. And I will blame the government for not letting me to buy parmesan. Things does not work the way you think they work. Limited access to 'real' currency that lets you buy real goods will created huge black market. And everyone will hate the government that will try to do this. Seriously, you are naive. And I'm getting mad thinking that there are still people who support this dumb failed everywhere where it was tried idea. Let's stop. Thank god Putin aren't this dumb.
>>54008571 What kinds of products are consumed in Russia, that are both considered to be luxury or non-commodity items, and that need to be improved so that they will displace imported products. What would you invest in?
>>54008726 >you seriously think that would work? how? if I love parmesan I won't settle from cheap half-cheese made from dry milk and palm oil, I'll pay twice the price if needed. And I will blame the government for not letting me to buy parmesan.
>>54008326 all milk-based products and chocolate, because our own producers use dry milk and palm oil to cut costs. clothes and shoes. we import like 90% of those. we have no shoes industry besides some rubber shoes production. many many more, but I'm not prepared to name them all.
>>54008695 >Your manyacurrency wouldn't prevent black market with other currencies and valuables What black market? They won't be banned. >>54008726 > if I love parmesan I won't settle from cheap half-cheese made from dry milk and palm oil, I'll pay twice the price if needed So? Pay then, nothing would stop you from doing that. > Limited access to 'real' currency It won't be limited. You would still be able to earn in normally.
>>54008847 >What kinds of products are consumed in Russia, that are both considered to be luxury or non-commodity items, and that need to be improved so that they will displace imported products It's easier to say what local products are genuinely competitive compared to imports. And local products will never be competitive, because the markets are already taken over by imports, so there is no insensitive to develop anything. So, it follows that only worthwhile things Russia can produce and export are things like weapons, aerospace stuff, nuclear reactors and such.
>>54009165 >What black market? They won't be banned. If your binary thinking accepts only "banned" and "free" for black market formation, it's only your fault. Artificially rising prices on some imported goods would mean they'll be smuggled in more. That's a black market. Period. Go read a book already.
>>54007474 topest kek would make a neat youtube video but honestly what are those primates thinking? by sovjet engineers made RPG, the rocket calculated in very way to do the most damage while deliver the best accuracy possible.. everything designed, calculated and proven working
>ahmed glue some nails on it it will damage the tnak more
>>54009477 >Artificially rising prices on some imported goods would mean they'll be smuggled in more. Oh noes, so what? You're implying protectionist trade policies and government subsidies to the local manufacturers cannot possibly ever work, which is quite obviously false. As long as you don't go full retard and do something Prohibition-tier, it's all manageable.
>>54009384 >insensitive The word you're looking for is "incentive".
Technically speaking there is little that can be really made internationally competitive. Can't compete with sweat shops. Or rather we can, of course, but do we really want to? Wouldn't guarantee competitiveness too. Some US politician would twitch his ass muscle, and EU politicians will obligingly embargo Russia under some idiotic pretext.
>>54001661 There are no civilians in a civil war, m8. If you think its possible to knock out Assad and ISIS so that some kind of non-sectarian, liberal, pro-western opposition takes power, you are completely fucking delusional.
I prefer Assad to ISIS, as Assad does not, in fact, behead Christians, rape children, sell em as sex slaves, sets pilots on fire, etc etc And these arent propaganda inventions -- Daeshit boasts of all those things. So I am loving they finally are facing an oppononent that hasnt been weakened by years of sectarian fighting.
>>54009659 >You're implying protectionist trade policies and government subsidies to the local manufacturers cannot possibly ever work, which is quite obviously false. Which is not something I've implied ever. Because we're arguing here not "protectionist policies" but your "let's go full planned economy, hurr durr". Stop shifting the goalposts, Glaziev.
>>54009893 >The word you're looking for is "incentive". Yes, thank you. Sometimes I try to use one clever word too many and make a fool of myself. >Technically speaking there is little that can be really made internationally competitive. Yes, I don't see any way we can compete in anything apart from things I listed, stuff like nuclear reactors or space rockets - large, complicated stuff that's essentially hand-crafted.
>>54009985 >Because we're arguing here not "protectionist policies" but your "let's go full planned economy, hurr durr". I don't advocate eliminating free market completely. Rather, I'd like to see a kind of new, parallel planned sector to be introduced alongside it. People could even opt out of it altogether. A semi-decent analogy are various bonus points you get for buying things with credit cards.
>>54010160 This is why I was following the non-commodity / luxury route. If russians are technically good, then what would make it worthwhile to do, given that commodotised goods are out of reach ( in the sense that someone else does it more cheaply ). So like caviar, you can't improve it. You can maybe farm it or something. But if u have a raw material can u turn it into something amazing, say like a fly fishing rod, or something that would attract money. Unfortunately, my elderly mother already has a nuclear reactor, and she does not want a new one. And I am uncomfortable with the colours that nuclear weapons come in, so I am wanting to find what is Russian, in a way that a fly fishing rod would be scottish or british. I am not asking very well.
>>54010517 >I'd like to see a kind of new, parallel planned sector You mean like the present day Belarus. They have nice planned tractor overproduction that far exceeds the demand. We keep bailing out their miracle planned economy with our brotherly loans. If it weren't for us, they'd have bankrupted three times over already. Thanks, but no thanks. There are a whole lot of reasons, why planned economy can't survive alongside market economies.
>>54010518 Well, you also have Russian mentality to consider. Reactors and rockets turn out fine, because they are tightly controlled one-of-a-kind projects, and most people working on them are highly motivated and trained professionals. But I think you just can't get the ordinary Russian worker on, say, the automobile assembly line or smartphone factory to perform to the same standards of quality as German or Japanese worker. We have different national character and different motivations, which do not yield this kind of work ethics. On the other hand, you can't drive Russian workers into sweatshops to compete with Chinese or SE Asia on the cheap labor market.
>>54010960 >They have nice planned tractor overproduction that far exceeds the demand. They have legacy Soviet factories which they are forced to keep running to avoid unemployment. We have the same issue in several regions. It's a different thing entirely.
I miss the old ukraine happenings, I loved the posibility of west directly joining the party there. Would have been a good happening even tho I'd probably have to go full partisan against the goverment cucks.
Anyway post some good nasheeds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xEzmdzPn4g
>>54011388 i think thats total deaths. and its always written in suggestive ways like >>54001661 putting the blame for all deaths in the civil war, civilian, rebel, terrorist, soldier at his feet, regardless of which side killed them and under what condition.
>>54011430 >That will change, hopefully. No, it won't. It was the same before USSR, and it will be the same as long as the nation exists. >The glorious planned economy somehow can't find it in itself to improve the factories or provide other works. You have devolved to boring baiting.
>>54011533 >It was the same before USSR, and it will be the same as long as the nation exists. Yeah, right. Not only you're channeling the ghost of planned economy, you're channeling other spirits too.
>You have devolved to boring baiting. Riiight. Because I didn't simply state a fact, and you've presented something more solid than "BUT IT'S DIFFERENT!111". Go be obtuse somewhere else, Glaziev.
>>54012053 >Yeah, right Yes, exactly. Notice how you are unable to dispute the fact that before the revolution Russians had exactly the same traits.
You'll just have to live with the fact that Russia will never, ever be Germany, or Britain, or Czech Republic, or whatever Western country is your particular object of admiration. > Because I didn't simply state a fact, and you've presented something more solid than "BUT IT'S DIFFERENT!111". Because it's actually different? And I did present something more - I pointed out that we have the exact same problem with legacy Soviet plants that we have to keep running to avoid economically destroying some major cities. And we don't have planned economy.
>>54008726 >>54007961 This would actually work. This is what Hitler did to Germany after WW I and what made it strong as fuck again before WW II. All in a rather short time ( well short from a political perspective at least )
>>54012418 >Notice how you are unable to dispute the fact that before the revolution Russians had exactly the same traits. Because before the revolution we had the very progressive Monarchy and Кpeпocтнoe пpaвo, punctuated by wars. Your insistence that "mentality" is somehow an immutable thing and not something that is shaped by circumstances, and that how people were 100 years ago determines how the country is going to be from now on is borderline retarded.
>You'll just have to live with the fact that Russia will never, ever Now you're channeling Vanga, I presume.
>whatever Western country is your particular object of admiration. >IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT WE'R DOOMED YOU MUST BE A WESTERN ADMIRIER!!11 OUR WAY IS YOONIQ!! I don't admire any country. It's just that sometimes a hot poker to the ass must be applied, instead of "it's our mentality, it can't be helped" self-defeating reasoning.
>Because it's actually different? Except it's not? They are the closest to having a glorious planned economy you so fervently want, and somehow it just barely manages to sustain itself with foreign loans. But of course "my special kind of planned economy hasn't been tried!!11". I assume the whole Belarus government was just more stupid than you, or they'd already have done what you want and become the bestest country in the world.
>legacy Soviet plants that we have to keep running to avoid economically destroying some major cities. And we don't have planned economy. Yeah, we have a weird hybrid, alright. Note, how the problem of sustaining those "major cities" arose as a result of planned economy placing stuff in economically non-viable locations. Some things should fail. Some cities shouldn't exist. Maybe it would've been better to just give people the money to relocate and work in more sustainable cities and forget about it. But of course, then there would be no end to butthurt.
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