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Porn is worth roughly $12 Billion, more than hollywood. But it

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Porn is worth roughly $12 Billion, more than hollywood. But it makes me wonder just where does all of that fucking money go?

>pornstars paid WAY less than hollywood actors
>minimal advertisement for porn compared to the amount hollywood spends


Just where does all of the Porn money go? And who is getting rich off of it?
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>>53775406
>Just where does all of the Porn money go? And who is getting rich off of it?
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Port stars make tons of money
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>>53775824
only if you consider 50-100k a "ton of money" and even then thats only the very, very big names
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>>53775406
It goes to the kike producers and executives
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>>53776178
>that Ron Jeremy pic
>mfw
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>>53776178
>>53775505
This is why 2d porn and JAV are pure.

Doujinshi are made by hard working middle class.
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>>53776355
>2d

fucking degenerate
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>more than hollywood

Isn't the budget of literally every movie nowadays like $100 million? I figured hollywood would be worth a lot more than just $12 billion.
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>>53775406

its a crowded field they advertise the fuck out of it
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>>53776590
>implying advertising on random porn sites cost as much as constantly playing comercials on prime-time TV
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>>53775406
What's really scary, is paid porn pales in comparison to amateur porn.
Porn is a great thing for society. Even CP. It allows people to get their kicks quickly and keeps down the rates of sexual violence.

It's a shame it's so taboo. It's every part of who we are as humans.
Intelligent, imaginative creatures with a huge sex drive from puberty until old age.
We're all freaks! Delicious freaks! Embrace it, protect yourself from STDs, don't be violent, and have fun.
Nature, or God, blessed us.
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I think it's spread among millions of workers in the industry
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>>53776844
>Even CP
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>>53775406
>mfw professional porn still exists
If it's not a 5/10 couple on a shitty home-video don't even bother me about it
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>>53777065
Yes.
I know it's taboo, but all porn of various types has been taboo at one time or another.
As long as the CP isn't snuff or torture, it's merely jerk-off material like any other porn.

If you actually look at most CP, it's really tame, and the kids are obviously having fun or just goofing around.
Seeing a boy with a smile on his face while a friend sucks him off is pretty heartwarming and nostalgic.
We've all been there, when jerking off or playing with our friends as kids. Pictures just document that nearly universal joy we feel.
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>>53777622
I can safely say I have never been there
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>>53777622
Right.
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>>53776844
Porn is hardly taboo anymore.
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>>53777622
>you never had a homosexual sleepover experience
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>>53777622
>Seeing a boy with a smile on his face while a friend sucks him off is pretty heartwarming and nostalgic.
>nostalgic
faggot
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>>53777622
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cocaine is a helluva drug
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>>53776477
At least nobody gets hurt.
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>>53775406
>who pays for porn? it is free all over the internet why would anyone ever spend money?

hollywoods biggest costs are advertising and production. porn has limited advertising (no radio or tv campaigns that cost the big bucks) and the production costs pale in comparison to hollywood were even a small film may cost several million.

>is porn some type of money laundering/ funneling scheme ofr the mob or cia?
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>>53777702
You never snuck off with one of dad's porn mags as a kid, and jerked it to your first spread pussy?

>>53777827
Anymore being the key word. Taboos change. They're subjective. Making love to boys was in many places a noble pursuit in the past.
Now men are given life sentences for it, merely because opinions have changed.

>>53777876
Beaverdam boys had a fucking riot with it.

>>53777931
Seeing it makes me forget there are actual evils in this world. I totally channel the boy's excitement vicariously.
I've been into boys, shota, etc since before I even hit puberty. It was fun as fuck as a kid. Freedom.
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>>53777622
>If you actually look at most CP, it's really tame, and the kids are obviously having fun or just goofing around.
>Seeing a boy with a smile on his face while a friend sucks him off is pretty heartwarming and nostalgic.

You that's all forced, right? You know you are possibly fapping off to kids who were kidnapped, sexually abused, and mind controlled, right?
But in your delusional mind they're having fun, just like Kinsey's experiments were just experiments, you twisted fucks.
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>>53778315
fag
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>>53775406
Hollywood makes that much in domestic theater sales alone, what are you smoking?
Hollywood makes around 95 billion
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That number is inflated tho.

I'm guessing 2 billion is the actual worth, and that includes the internet, pay per view shit and magazines
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>>53776178
Only jews would corrupt their son into doing porn for money, fucking jews they truly are evil.
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Gold chains and hot pants.
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https://youtu.be/gIdBuK7_g3M?t=30m4s
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>>53775406
>Just where does all of the Porn money go? And who is getting rich off of it?

Money laundering.
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>>53775406
>where does all that money go?
If you want to hang out, you've gotta take her out, cocaine
If you want to get down, get down on the ground, cocaine
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie,
Cocaine
If you got that lose, you want to kick them blues, cocaine
When your day is done, and you want to ride on cocaine
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie,
Cocaine
If your day is gone, and you want to ride on, cocaine
Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back, cocaine
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie,
Cocaine
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie,
Cocaine
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>>53778070
Think of the countless wasted sperm!
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>>53776119
>you're literally having sex

Even if you make 30k per year all you're doing is fucking fairly attractive people. Seriously, they make ok money for doing shit most people do for free
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>>53778860
Do you actually believe that's how the porn industry is ? lol
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Fake number. It is not worth 12 Billion. This number gets thrown about with no proof. I will only believe it if I see a breakdown of where the money comes from.
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>>53775406
I know there are people who go their whole lives watching porn, and never have paid for it. Its 2015, how are you paying for porn? Especially with 4chan being around.
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>>53778860

You're not really having sex, the scenes are all cut up and you're spending a lot of time trying to stay hard
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>>53777764
>how to take a screenshot
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>>53777000
>believes professional porn actresses are getting rich rather than getting burned out on blow from what cash they do make and being tossed aside once their looks go
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>>53778410
>You know you are possibly fapping off to kids who were kidnapped, sexually abused, and mind controlled, right?

I have seen ONE video, out of thousands, with a Thai little girl being forced. It sickened me. I never watched the whole thing.
But this is the single piece of CP I've ever seen with force or torture or anything negative.
I hope the guy that did it gets the worst cancer imaginable. Children can be hot and like fooling around. They should be treated with respect as humans.

Not as toys. Get a rubber hole if you want a toy.

It's so hard to prove CP is mostly good, because posting it as proof is very illegal.
It's by design. It's like banning holocaust denial to push the holocaust narrative.
If most people saw the kids having fun, I doubt thet would be so anti-pedo and anti-CP.
But most people haven't seen it so they go off of news reports and the government with their loaded language and rhetoric.

Imagine feminists trying to ban all porn involving white men having sex with women, and pushing the narrative of "pain" or "rape" or something like this.
We're a species that is fascinated by sex. Even before puberty, we get interested. It's such an intrinsic part of our species, and is a large reason we're so dominant.
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>>53777622

>>>/lgbt/
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I wonder where
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>>53779055
Oh fuck... Just go now. Close your browser.
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>>53776178
As if Jews force anyone to star in videos

Whores will be whores
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>>53777622
Here's your reply, kiddie toucher.
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>>53776590
>>53776842
I think it was Fantastic Four that had spent $34 million on advertising alone
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That 12 billion number was debunked by someone in the porn industry, ill try to find the link.

The biggest budget porn movie was the movie pirates and it was only $8 mill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_(2005_film)
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>>53777622
>We've all been there

no. we havent. trying to dilute your guilt by "weve all been there" is a cop out. dude - you are seriously one fucked up individual.
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>>53777764
I saw that posted the other day
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>>53779418
has anyone watched this? would you recommend it?
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>>53779217
Is that heroin? God damn it looks awful.
Needs a better chemist. Someone used a bad batch of acetic anhydride there.

>>53779183
>>53779345
As expected, lower-thinking and sheltered individuals cannot grasp the point without direct photographic proof.

I can't help you there, sorry, but if you'd like to study without the dangers of law enforcement, read this first-
http://pastebin.com/KpGnHBaJ

I created it to help good-natured perverts escape the vile and abusive clutches of the state. Veracrypt is a good replacement for truecrypt.
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>>53775505
pretty much.

i only got one DMCA letter ever. it was from the kike who runs Vivid for downloading the batman porn parody from one of their offshoot companies
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>>53775406
There are more people in the porn industry, so the cash gets spread thinner.
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>>53777622
Here's your (You)

Jesus fuck this fucking place sometimes
Not that I'm surprised
but even after 5 years you see a post every now and then that makes you wonder what the fuck you're really doing here.
You truly are here forever guys.
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>>53779127
>admitting you've watched fuck tons of CP
>in a publicly accessible forum

enjoy getting V& fam

For real though, how retarded are you. Children being forced to fuck on camera is completely unjustifiable. It only seems like a "good thing" to you because you're a fucking pedophile. The only satisfaction being had is when you come to a ten year old you sick fuck. You really would tell me that you'd enjoy, as a kid, getting kidnapped from your house and put into a terrible situation like that so a bunch of fatass NEETs you'll never meet can blow loads all over their keyboards to you? You really ARE deranged.
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>>53778962
I'm sure the setup is similiar to a movie, in that scenes are very choppy when you're filming them. But no I've never invested any amount of time into the behind the scenes of porn. I'd imagine my statement remains, you're still having sex even if not remotely conventional. You're being paid to maintain an erection and maybe act out a shitty story. I can't imagine it being particularly skill intensive
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>>53777622
No I haven't. The most fucked up thing is that I read it in Archie Bunker's voice.
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>>53777622

>when you've seen so much CP you are a critic

For Fuck's sake anon.
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>>53779430
You NEVER masturbated as a kid?
Never played around with a peer?

Come on man. Only /r9k/ had sex problems as kids.
In fact, that entire board is a testament of the dangers of not experiencing sexual activity as an adolescent/teen.
They're so depressed and empty.

>>53779657
What are you getting at here?
That I'm a freak, pervert, faggot, etc? Yeah, I know. I don't mind either. That's what being a human and growing up and getting old is all about, man.
crazy shit, fun shit, sometimes hurt and pain, but you get over that with friends and meditation and focusing on the good and exciting.
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>>53778962

For the women? Yup. Most literally just lay there and take a dick while the man has to keep hard through all the shots, do the physical work, take wacky ass poses so the camera has a clear shot of penetration.

Women just pose, take dick, and get waaaaay more cash than men doing the bulk of the work. There is a very clear and distinct wage gap in the porn industry and the fashion model industry, but you don't see feminists losing their shit over those wage gaps at all, now do you?
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>>53779850
Your mind is broken. And I pray that you stay away from children.
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If it hasn't been said already

It's a matter of scale

There are 100 times the number of porn films made compared to Hollywood films. And more people pay for porn more often than they pay to go to the movies.
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>>53779127
I didn't know asperger's could get this bad
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>>53779418
Not even accounting for inflation, the biggest budget was probably Bob Guccione's Caligula ($17.5 mil production cost), his attempt to pass of porn as high art. Flopped like a fish, too.
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>>53775406
Drugs and alcohol to maintain an chemically-induced degenerate state of mind. Rest goes to jews.
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>>53776178
i am severely triggered every time i see this stupid ass pic with the wrong whore from Blade listed as Traci Lords.
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>>53779657
Why the surprise? Post in any random Israel vs Palestine thread and its 3 to 1 odds you'll find yourself in a conversation with an actual member of ISIS.
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>>53779711
Viewing is not itself illegal. If fact, if you watch CP downloaded and stored by someone else, you're not at all in violation of any law, in the US anyway.

>Children being forced to fuck on camera is completely unjustifiable.
I agree, when this actually happens, and from what I've seen, it's less common than forced sex between adults.

>It only seems like a "good thing" to you because you're a fucking pedophile.
I'm not technically a pedophile since I do not have a preference for prepubescent children.
I don't really have age limits, per se, but I stop at early childhood, and my attraction isn't really to the kids as much as it's living vicariously as the kid.
I watch the porn and put myself in their place. It's one of the things that gets my kicks.

>You really would tell me that you'd enjoy, as a kid, getting kidnapped from your house and put into a terrible situation like that so a bunch of fatass NEETs you'll never meet can blow loads all over their keyboards to you?
No I would not, but no one, child or adult, would likely enjoy this, so it's a moot point.
If I had some good looking guy start rubbing my dick and we got into some sex play, and even if he gently fucked my ass, I'd be fired up about that no question.
Fucking hot.
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>>53779898
>And I pray that you stay away from children.
I never have trouble around kids.
I wouldn't wanna involve them in an illegal activity and cause them to have to face the police or justice system asking them embarrassing questions.
Sex is a nervous thing for kids and cops/therapists only take that nervousness and turn it into shame.
I know, they tried with me. It almost worked too, but then I thought to myself, "you enjoyed it, didn't you?"
My answer was an undeniable "yeah, a lot. some of the best times in my childhood."
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>>53780126
So at what point does it become illegal? Downloading it to your of?

You always read about "man arrested for possession of child pornography"

How do they know? What do you have to do to get fucked like that?
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>>53777622
I admire your enthusiasm and honesty, even if I don't agree with it. Posters like you are the reason 4chan exists. Godspeed anon.
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>>53777764
qualityb8
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>>53775406
The better question is who the fuck is paying for it.
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>>53779127
>It's so hard to prove CP is mostly good, because posting it as proof is very illegal.


I kind of agree with you, but you seem to have a fetish, which is considered offensive by anyone who has a paternal/maternal love for children.

I believe with the internet and ease of communication, child porn laws will change in the future, as children who grew up taking nude selfies gain power. But advocating for a child pornography industry is just fucked. You may as well try telling people that raping their kids is OK, because that's how they will see it.

So we legalize CP. Now destitute families sell their children into porn. Child sex trafficking becomes higher demand. Promiscuity is even more common. I was a horny kid, I understand that kids have and want sex, but once you become an adult your relationship with children changes, or should change.

And even in The Republic Socrates argued that pederasty was wrong, that was 23 fucking hundred years ago.
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>>53780411
The same reason people pay for cable when hey can torrent

Structure and convenience.
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>>53780345
honeypot links, prob. it's the worst kind of entrapment, really, cuz they spam that shit all over the internet
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>>53779852
What? Just think about it for a second, for both the male and the female you are getting close to no sexual satisfaction out of the job. Unless you are a teenager you will eventually get bored after a while and all the excitement of it goes away.
For the male, a lot of times you have to start doing gay porn, you have to pop viagra or cialis constantly to stay hard. Remember you have to get hard on command, cum on command, etc.
For the females is fucking worse, they take advantage of young retarded girls, pay they fuck all and throw them away like garbage. For the ones who stay in the bussiness is also fucked since they dont really make that much money and can't keep making it for that much longer because they get old.
Olderish pornstars have to either marry a rich guy while they can or start selling fleshlights attending cons and other retarded garbage to stay alive. Eventually they probably end up prematurely dead because of possible drug addiction (remember there's a lot of coke and H in the industry) or become cheap prostitutes or something.

I actually believe it's one of the fucking worse jobs out there both for males and females, at least the males can keep on with their lives the girls are fucked (kek)
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>>53780458
But paying for porn is actually less convienant then doing a google search then watching whatever's free.

Like nigga, I need to get my credit card for that shit, my wallet is all the way across the room on my dresser by any time I feel like whackin it.
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>>53780428
>but you seem to have a fetish, which is considered offensive by anyone who has a paternal/maternal love for children.
So literally all of human existence other than the last century in western countries doesn't have parental love?

I mean laws or one thing, but let's not get delusional.
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>>53775406
>Where does it go?
You do realize that porn movies involve a lot of production? You have the camera men, the lighters, the fluffers, video editors, etc. Basically a lot of the crew types that make hollywood movies have similar jobs in porn movies.
>Who's getting rich off of it?
Obvious bait is obvious.
>>53780126
Loli shit isn't really the same as cp. So either you're an oblivious fucktard or just confusing legit cp with degenerate asian cartoons.
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>>53780589

All of human existence weren't jacking off to little boys fucking. Learn to fucking read at least.
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>>53780126
They're all forced to fuck on camera, you nit. The one you (said you) watched of forcible rape only bothered to show the gun because its niche for more honest (or out there) pedos than yourself. Production is itself an illegal act, the 'actors' obtained coming direct from an abusive relationship. How else do you think they get them, general casting?
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>>53780737
No, they were just doing the fucking. Most people would say that's even worse.
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>>53780659
Fluffers are a myth unfortunately.
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A lot of it (billions) goes to hotel chains and real media and cable networks to show offer it
There's also thousands of stores and theaters (still) out there
Then the rest goes to the kike producers
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>>53777622
AARCHIEE, AARCHIEE, HOW COULD YOU? I KNOW WHAT R--RAPE IS AARCHIEE, YOU ANIMAL. I'LL KILL YOU!
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>>53775406
>Just where does all of the Porn money go? And who is getting rich off of it?
Site owners mostly
You have no idea how many millionaires it has created, you really don't
Google it and you will be surprised
Also the Jews and organized crime gangs get a lot of the action too, especially sects of the triad in southeast asia
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>>53780551
Most tube sites are low res and unorganized as fuck. And many of them don't have what someone might want.

Some people want unlimited access to girls gone wild, or captain stabbin
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>>53780345
>So at what point does it become illegal?
If you provide access to it, download, upload, or store it.

>>53780367
I hate it when people refuse to learn the truth about a subject because "such-and-such said you can't do that!"
God damnit man, our world was created by people doing things against the established code. Imagine if, what we're doing with underage sex "victims" now is actually hurting them. What if we thought of children as little adults in training rather than fragile innocent angels that break at the slightest touch?
Kids are tough as nails. They're designed that way by nature so they can learn and grow.

In the end, CP is just a taboo like all pron has been a taboo at one point or another.
A group of people decided it was wrong and use their resources in media and government to tell the public at large to think "this is wrong".
No one asks "Why is it wrong, objectively?"

>>53780428
I get worried with this topic in particular because I fear for kids. What the government and society are doing to them.
I see a story about some 13yo boy getting arrested for sending pictures of his dick to a gf, and I think to myself "Jesus Christ, they're just fooling around harmlessly."
People will say that the picture could hurt the boy later on, but how? What, is he going to get fired because his boss saw a picture he took when he was a randy 13yo?

please.
Government needs to leave people alone and get to fixing our roads and bridges and our sick and perverse love for welfare and the military.
A society more afraid of sex than violence is, by natural order, suicidal.
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>>53781021
>GGW
>captain stabbin
what is this, 2003?
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I remember watching some hot porn of lesbian girls cumming and I realized they were probably on drugs and acting. I just couldn't unsee that fakeness.

I've never looked again seriously.
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>hollywood
>money

Funfact: Video games make more than music and movies combined
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>>53777764
> how to take a screenshot
> 9gag
> Anime
> male feminism

Jesus, please save us from this bait
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>>53781094
Have you talked to any old people lately?
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>>53776844
Your dubs betray how degenerate you are
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>>53780846

Most of human history also had marriage. I'm not talking about what age is cool to fuck, I'm talking about child porn.
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>>53779541
yes. it's dumb as fuck and the special effects are cringeworthy, as is the plot and length. they tried to make an actual movie, they sell versions without sex even. it's fucking terrible.
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>>53781021
Who cares if it's low res though? I got shitty internet, everything I watch is low res. If you can't find what you want with a single google search then you must have some seriously fucked up tastes.

>captain stabbin
What the fuck is that?
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>>53781065
Any random and appropriate tor sites you'd like to share? No no pizza
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>>53778315
Again, you confuse degenerate and debased behavior as freedom. You're wrong and people like you will not be spared when the time for judgement comes.
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>>53781272
Ok dude. I'm not arguing the merits of paying for fucking porn. I'm just giving you the likeliest reasons why a vast majority of the poem consuming population are OBVIOUSLY paying for it
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>>53781065

I think you're avoiding the subject. I never said a 13 year old boy talking nude pictures should be considered criminal, I actually stated the reverse.

Advocating for the child pornography industry is fucked up. I'm not talking about natural human sexual desires in childhood. I'm talking about sharing videos and pictures of children being fucked.
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>>53780798
>They're all forced to fuck on camera, you nit.
No they aren't.
Kids betray their body language very well. Thy don't have the experience in hiding their feelings, and when they're under distress it clearly shows.
In all but one piece of CP I have seen, there is no body language showing distress.

>How else do you think they get them, general casting?
Two(or more sometimes) people, sometimes just kids, sometimes a kid and adult, have an ongoing sexual relationship.
They meet up at times to fuck around. One day, they, or an adult, decide they wanna make porn, and so they choose to do so for other people who are into this sort of thing.
Basically, it's EXACTLY like how adult amateur porn is made. Those are created by casting calls and shit either.
People get horny and decide to film their sexual acts, for later viewing or to show others.

Hell, nowadays, much of the CP being made, perhaps most of it, is kids recording themselves, since camera tech is idiot proof and cheaply available now.

>>53781298
I cannot, sorry. I actually do not use Tor for that anymore, and I hear it's very unsafe now.
These days, I stick to shotacon(2D) as it's piss easy to get and not a threat to my safety.
If you use Windows 10, never access Tor on it. Use a Tails system instead. Win10 phones home, and likely scans your PC for illegal pics using their CP fingerprint database.
I've also taken to reading e-lit.
http://www.nifty.org/nifty/gay/young-friends/
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>>53779850
>samefag

You are wrong dude, I hope you figure out how to turn away from this shit and move on from your thinking It's poison
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>>53781065
There's already considerable evidence that most of the "trauma" comes from the taboo (and criminalization causing people to act in criminal ways). If that trauma actually existed then society would have gone extinct millenia ago because every human on earth would have had PTSD.

>>53781257
The only argument against the porn is that the way it's made is "evil".

Of course, the real reason is that it's just run of the mill censorship, which inherently makes people more open to more forms of authoritarianism and censorship. There's a reason why these laws are spearheaded by feminists in the first place.
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>>53775406
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
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>>53781577
>The only argument against the porn is that the way it's made is "evil".

That's not the only argument. I just gave you some reasons. And besides that, if it is actually made in "evil" ways, that's not an invalid reason.

>Of course, the real reason is that it's just run of the mill censorship, which inherently makes people more open to more forms of authoritarianism and censorship. There's a reason why these laws are spearheaded by feminists in the first place.

No, the real reason is it's considered sexual abuse of children. Whether or not it really is, that's the reason.

If CP was legal, expect a lot of child porn to be produced in "evil" ways.

We'll see a change in mores because of the internet. Kids and teens are horny, and they can easily produce "porn". They can easily share it. We're in a gray area between paradigm shifts. But you're advocating for the right to watch an adult fuck a little kid, which most people find offensive. You can deconstruct the issue all you want, but don't expect the average person to accept it. The fact that you can't even grasp the argument is problematic tbh fam.
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>>53781403
>Again, you confuse degenerate and debased behavior as freedom.
It is freedom. Being free means making choices, generally for yours or your family's positive benefit.
This could be monetary, to survive and make end's meet, or it could be for simple recreation and pleasure.

"Degenerate and debased" mean nothing in this context. Just because you yourself do not like the topic/content, does not make them bad.
I don't like IPAs. But that doesn't mean IPAs are bad.
You have a right to your opinion, but you have no right to let your opinion impact other people's lives this severely.
You raise your children how you see fit. As long as you're not beating them or mentally torturing them or doing that tranny "let's cut off your dick and call you a girl now" bullshit(or circumcisions otherwise), then by all means go for it. Your kids are a product of you, after all. You have a right to guide them. It's your most important job in life if you have kids.

>>53781472
>Advocating for the child pornography industry is fucked up.
I do not advocate for an industry. I merely advocate for legalizing it to the point of "if you simply make, trade, or possess it, we won't interfere in your lives because it's not our business".

>>53781574
>You are wrong dude
No one ITT has at all quantified this belief. You can't just say "you're wrong/fucked up" and have it be objectively true.
That's not how facts, logic, and philosophy work. You have to give a reason, and back it up with truth.

For example, you might say "no kid wants a fat pedophile creep....", to which I reply "You're right, but no ADULT wants a fat creep either....."
You're not making a case against CP here because the exact same criteria applies to adults. Actually, some adults will fuck fat uggo creeps, for lots of $$$$. Adults have lower standards than kids apparently.
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>>53782103
>I do not advocate for an industry. I merely advocate for legalizing it to the point of "if you simply make, trade, or possess it, we won't interfere in your lives because it's not our business".

You literally just described an industry.
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>>53782014
>If CP was legal, expect a lot of child porn to be produced in "evil" ways.
This isn't logical.
Just because it's legal to make or possess CP would not make it legal to rape kids.
It's legal to make adult porn, but it's still illegal to rape a woman.

And before you go on about power dynamics, please note than despite their claims to the contrary, women are actually much weaker, slower, less rational and intelligent, and overall easier to exploit than men are.
There's as much a difference between a man and a woman as there is between a man and a typical child, when you get down to it.
Women are stronger than most prepubescent children(boys gain strength over women when the T starts flowing).
But that's like 325mg of aspirin being stronger than 200mg. Compared to morphine, they might as well be exactly the same.
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>>53782014
Nice job agreeing to my points and then attempting to make a counterargument from ad populum fallacy and memes. It's pretty clear at this point that you have no intention to admit your intellectual inferiority.
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>>53777622
kids are emotionally manipulable, but so are adults. if we accept 18 year old children like mayli ruining their lives and reputations over porn why dont we accept 17 or 16? what is the cut-off point? anon has a point, all porn was taboo at some point.

maybe, much like alcohol, the best way to deal with the social damage it causes is just to de-stigmatize it and accept it.
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>>53782448
Foreign porn is one thing, but I wouldn't want to de-stigmatize the act when society is still plagued with cultural marxism and degeneracy. All it would mean is that degeneracy would come after them before they even have a chance to develop independent thought.
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>>53776844
Spoken like a true degenerate. Porn is hardly taboo anymore, it's seeping into the mainstream, just look at advertisements, movies or music videos. It's a supernormal stimulus, that puts the primitive parts of our brain into overdrive, like junk food or gambling, that's why it sells so well. It impairs cognition, especially in men and can cause a myriad of physiological and mental problems. Anybody who embraces it is a fucking fool. And before you accuse me of prudery, I have no problem with sex, I only object to this cultural shift towards auto-eroticism and hypersexuality. If we are not careful, we will end up like Japan with tens of millions of people, who are completely alienated from real sex and resort to inseminating their computer screens.
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>>53782338
>Just because it's legal to make or possess CP would not make it legal to rape kids.

I didn't say they would be raped. They will be abused, though. Poor families will sell their children to pornographers. Child actors are already a fucked up bunch. Child porn actors?

I wouldn't make an argument about power dynamics, since they are fucking stupid.

If you actually believe you could convince 51% of the population to legalize child porn, there's something wrong with you.
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>>53780007
That movie is such a train wreck, and i kind of love it.
Peter O'Toole's scenes are the best parts of the movie by far.
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>>53782413

How exactly did I agree with you?

>attempting to make a counterargument from ad populum fallacy and memes

We're literally talking about laws, which are created by the population, according to popular sentiments. It's not a fallacy.

And using "memes" as a counter-argument is in itself now just a stupid meme.

Words are memes you dumb fuck. Nice job using memes to talk.
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>>53782103
You're fucked in the head cunt. Prepubescent girls can't take a full dick, because their uterus is not ready for it. It would split them open, and also prepubescent girls that penetrated have their ovaries scrambled and can't reproduce later in life. As for boys, I'd say the same about their sphincter, but really no body, even adult males should be putting things in their sphincter, as it's a one way organ.

Get with reality faggot, it's illegal for a reason.
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>>53778842

kek

''Where are the campaings to stop spermicide!? Oy vey!''
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>>53782772
shouldn't be*
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>>53776844
stfu chempedo
>tfw bananas for chaptcha
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>>53782183
An industry, here, would be making a business out of it.
FWIW, the LS and Candydoll series were all professional and the kids well-treated.
These were "industry" models, and they were successful and had parental involvement.

Many of the girls came from poor places, and the money they and their parents earned aided them in survival and getting at least a somewhat better life.

There was also that little boy with the Aussie gay couple. Looking as the media reports you'd think he suffered.
He actually traveled the planet, and both the men who "bought" him cared for him deeply. The proof is in how well he was fed, his lack of illnesses, the fact he was educated and had clothing. He was being cared for. People that seek only to abuse do not put that level of care into their victims.

He was "bought" from a Russian orphanage, and anyone can tell you those places are hell, full of actual painful abuse, drug addiction, and poverty. The anti-pedo people would rather see a child suffer in such a place than be taken in by a man/men, well-cared-for otherwise but participating in sex.
When did sex become worse than hunger, pain, neglect, and drug addiction?

>>53782448
>if we accept 18 year old children like mayli ruining their lives and reputations over porn
This is a problem with society, not with porn. Porn shouldn't ruin your life. That's the point. It's sexual imagery. It's you and possibly someone else capturing a moment in time having fun and experiencing what it means to be a living human. It's not murder, theft, vandalism, fraud, assault, genocide, or lying.

>>53782587
>Spoken like a true degenerate.
This isn't an argument.

>It impairs cognition, especially in men and can cause a myriad of physiological and mental problems.
Science disagrees.
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>>53778315
>chemfag didn't have a daddy because his ran off because of the shame of a man being a predator to his son and his son completely falling for the faggot grooming
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>>53782908
A boy being raped in his asshole, and having shit run out of his torn apart anus for the rest of his life is abused you fucking sadistic fuckhead. I cannot believe people like you still exist in the world.
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>>53782735
I'm not advocating anything, I'm just pointing out that said laws against it in the first place are founded on lies and vested interest, not reality.

In short, you're just another useful idiot who thinks that law equals moral doctrine.

You can't even call yourself a populist because historically my position is far more popular than your own.
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>>53779564
>Veracrypt is a good replacement for truecrypt.

just red flags for law enforcement scanning drives
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>>53780949
>Thy don't have the experience in hiding their feelings

>What if we thought of children as little adults in training rather than fragile innocent angels that break at the slightest touch?

Can't even keep your story or your rationalizations straight from post to post.


What if we thought of the children you say you like to watch being the offspring of pedophilic abusers? What if we though that these pedophiles might find others of their kind through acts of image sharing at dark recesses of the internet and become part of a contact ring? What if everybody involved in the ring knew to keep quite about their participation in it because of the possibility of self-implication? What if through blackmail, nihilism or even pure profit motive they arranged to film what they do on a regular basis with the children to whom they have regular access? What if we thought of the children being brought to the basement of the CP producer who paired that coerced child with another abuser's kid?

What if we imagined (lets think really, really hard here) that the filmed bits where the kids showed their natural reluctance to have sex with a stranger or their fright of the situation they'd been put in was dealt with by hours of conditioning before filming or edited out of the final product so that all what remained sated the delusions of pedos like you?

What if we deduced that pedos were such raving lunatics as to believe what he saw on film was a reality and from that delusion felt it was appropriate to advance an agenda to normalize the mental illness with which he was afflicted?

Basically, it's EXACTLY like how child pornography is generated, and how freaks like you think they have a calling to further shit up our world.
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>>53782602
>They will be abused, though. Poor families will sell their children to pornographers.
Far worse things already happen among poor people.
Drug addiction, violence and physical abuse, high murder rates, theft, living in a constant state of fear or anxiety or depression.

>If you actually believe you could convince 51% of the population to legalize child porn, there's something wrong with you.
Say this same thing to me in 1900s America about gay porn.

>>53782772
>Prepubescent girls can't take a full dick, because their uterus is not ready for it.
There's more to sex than forcing a dick into someone. Of the CP I have seen, I've never seen a girl or boy having a dick forcefully penetrated into their bodies.
Usually it's the tip only if there's any at all, and it's done slowly and at the pace of the child. The adult allows the kid to take their time and get a feel for it.
A lot of times they give up and go back to sucking and rubbing one another. Compared to adult porn, it's actually very tame and gentle.

>>53783069
>A boy being raped in his asshole, and having shit run out of his torn apart anus for the rest of his life is abused you fucking sadistic fuckhead.
You're right. This doesn't generally happen though.

>>53783147
Enlighten further please. I know TC passed its audit and no back doors or spying code was found.
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>$12 billion

Woah OP, your mom is rich as fuck.
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>>53779564
I wish I still had my old laptop with all your sick posts and images, chempedo. It's amazing how you're still the same exact person from 3 years ago. People usually grow and change, but not you.
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>>53776178
How about Paul F. Little?
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>>53782908

>FWIW, the LS and Candydoll series were all professional and the kids well-treated.

According to whom? Pedophiles?

>These were "industry" models, and they were successful and had parental involvement.

Sorry, but I wouldn't want to live in a society where it's considered OK to sell your children into virtual prostitution. Neither would most people. And I'm pretty sure everyone involved in those operations got fucked in the end.

> the money they and their parents earned aided them in survival and getting at least a somewhat better life.

And empowered an industry that feeds off that shit, that traffics children and encouraging black market prostitution and sex slavery.

You're cherry picking.

>The anti-pedo people would rather see a child suffer in such a place than be taken in by a man/men, well-cared-for otherwise but participating in sex.

So your remedy for childhood poverty is child porn. Can you not see how people would revile you?

You honestly think anti-pedos would want to see a child live in drug addicted abusive conditions period? Your simply talking about the lesser of two evils.
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>>53775406
>Just where does all of the Porn money go? And who is getting rich off of it?
Jews
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>>53783177
for >>53781539, of course.
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>>53783107

Have you read any of my posts? I'm not saying any depiction of a minor with no clothes is criminal.

And whether you want to believe it or not, laws are essentially moral doctrine. They may not be religiously based, but they are based on morals.

And with your dumbshit populist comment, you're a retard. Historically there haven't been porn videos, now have there? I'm not talking about young girls having sex, I'm talking about the porn industry, which hasn't existed historically you fucking idiot.
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>>53783213

I wasn't even suggesting a backdoor, I'm just suggesting having encryption on your drive is enough to get the attention of a LEO that may have access to that drive.
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>>53781102
I always thought that was part of the appeal.
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>>53775406
to some german who owns all the tube sites
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>>53777622

You'll be the first on the day of the rope
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>>53783220
"Sick"

That's your opinion. Hating attractive youth and amorous affection between young people and their peers and superiors is sick to me.
It tells me you hate the idea of people of different generations connecting in the deeply spiritual act of bodily recreation.
My sexual attraction to youth allows me to see them as more than just "kids" and "stupid little shits". I see them as humans that aren't just there to be told what to do and banned from the human experience.

That's part of loving liberty. Liberty does not stop at a number. We're all born free from everything but the laws of nature which cannot be broken.
For true laws are impossible to break. Government laws aren't laws. They're edicts created by narcissists to form a serf class to leech from.
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>>53783213

>Far worse things already happen among poor people.

So that makes it okay?

>Say this same thing to me in 1900s America about gay porn.

I'm sure there was no gay porn industry back then. So I'm not sure how to argue this point. And in case you haven't noticed, gay political shit is still controversial.
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>>53777622
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>>53783244

If I'm not thoroughly incorrect, Max Stein is a j00 t00
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>>53783177
>What if we imagined (lets think really, really hard here) that the filmed bits where the kids showed their natural reluctance to have sex with a stranger or their fright of the situation they'd been put in was dealt with by hours of conditioning before filming or edited out of the final product so that all what remained sated the delusions of pedos like you?
Conditioning like this does not work on children.
Children are very honest about their feelings. Whether they vocalize it or not, their body language tells us the tale.
If they're not happy, or scared, we know. We can easily see it. This is how humans are. It's so adults can easily spot a child in distress and make efforts to keep it from dying as a survival instinct.

>>53783574
Such a drive should never be directly connected to the internet.
Without being able to access the material, the cops are fucked. Unless they plant evidence.
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>>53783948
Tell us more of the mystical emotional connection you have with children that allows you to ignore a lifelong pattern of abuse. It's fascinating.
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>>53783560
You're blatantly mistaken on that. The thing that laws are based on is entirely up to the lawmaker, and so very often that ends up being personal benefit.

It's pretty sad that even while being blatantly intellectually dishonest you can't come forward with a single point.
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>>53775406
forcing blu-ray to stay on the market.
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Honestly, it's shocking how bluepilled /pol/ has become on this particular topic. I guess we have to thank reddit and other mainstream sites for being so shit that all the normalfag neocons have to come here instead.
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>>53783422
>According to whom? Pedophiles?
Reports about these websites.
No scandals involving abuses have come out. These two companies were thoroughly investigated for obvious reasons, and no abuse was found. No violence or force or anything like that.

>Sorry, but I wouldn't want to live in a society where it's considered OK to sell your children into virtual prostitution.
I never said it should be considered okay. That's an issue for society to work out, not laws.
Child prostitution is one of the ways many poor families feed themselves in poor countries. Going hungry and dying from starvation are far worse than hooking, and anyone who has done both will tell you that.

>So your remedy for childhood poverty is child porn. Can you not see how people would revile you?
No. I'm just saying that stopping kids from earning money for ends meet by banning CP is not logically or morally ethical.
You are faced with two options. You're dirt poor and starving, or you're slightly poor to middle class and you bare your flesh for perverts to jerk off to.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather do porn than be hungry.

>>53783775
>So that makes it okay?
It makes it neither good or bad. You guys just have terrible priorities. You're offended about kids in porn due to a subjective opinion.
Meanwhile, kids are objectively getting their lives fucked over by CP laws. I'm tired of seeing it. I'm tired of seeing the youngest generations being treated like a commodity by those that claim to be against having children as a commodity. It's hypocrisy of the highest order.
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>>53784051

>Morality (from the Latin moralitas "manner, character, proper behavior") is the differentiation of intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are distinguished as proper and those that are improper: In other words, it is the disjunction between right and wrong.

Which is what laws are based on. Doesn't mean they're right, since morality is subjective, but you're clearly fucking wrong.

>It's pretty sad that even while being blatantly intellectually dishonest you can't come forward with a single point.

Now you're just being a self righteous prick. You can't prove a single accusation, you're just wallowing in your own self adoration.

And you don't seem to really read any of my posts. You just go on about being bluepilled because some people don't like the idea of fucking children. Fuck outta here.
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>>53775406
joos.
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>>53777764
>shiternet explorer
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>>53777622
>We've all been there

NO. I cannot emphasize it enough, no. You are deranged. Stop looking at cp its bad for you. Being attracted to children is inherently wrong, and means that's there's something inherently wrong with you that you desperately need to sort out before you find yourself in a prison cell (at best) more likely strung up a tree with your genitals mutilated.
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>>53777622
I keked, but you're right. I'm just gonna assume you work for the FBI in a field related to what you're talking about.
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>>53777622
top kek of the day m8
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>>53784358

>Reports about these websites.

Then link some reports.

>I never said it should be considered okay. That's an issue for society to work out, not laws.

Society has already worked it out. Left and Right are pretty much in agreement. So much so that there's no controversy. At all.

>It makes it neither good or bad. You guys just have terrible priorities. You're offended about kids in porn due to a subjective opinion.
Meanwhile, kids are objectively getting their lives fucked over by CP laws. I'm tired of seeing it. I'm tired of seeing the youngest generations being treated like a commodity by those that claim to be against having children as a commodity. It's hypocrisy of the highest order.

You obviously have read nothing I wrote, and are just assuming I'm a moral crusader. Taking naked pictures of yourself should not be a crime. I also said that in the future CP laws will change because of the current generation's experience with the internet and sex. Also, your subjective opinion is no more valid than mine.
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>>53775406
Do you even know how many shady back-room DIY wannabe porn companies are out there? Do you even know how many people try out to be pornstars? Do you know how much money a lonely man would pay for a 1 hour one-on-one video session with some random camslut to tickle her twat?
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>>53784033
I've been "abused".
I've seen enough CP since 1995 to know that the kids in it are rarely abused or put in uncomfortable situations.

Now before you get into the "cycle of abuse" bullshit, please note that when someone does something he finds enjoyable, that experience lives with him and he does not see it as bad or talk about it as bad.
He talks about it as good. If you ride a rollercoaster as a child, and before the first time, you're nervous and a bit scared...
You ride the rollercoaster, and discover that HOLY SHIT THAT WAS FUN, let's do it again!
And maybe right into adulthood, you talk about how awesome rollercoasters are.

And when someone tries to tell you coasters are bad, you look at that fucker like he's batshit insane. He either has never ridden one, or had a bad time.

That's not a cycle of rollercoaster abuse. It's a fond love for something once enjoyed.

>>53784495
You never jerked off as a kid? Nothing sexual at all?
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>>53784419
>Morality (from the Latin moralitas "manner, character, proper behavior") is the differentiation of intentions, decisions, and actions between those that are distinguished as proper and those that are improper: In other words, it is the disjunction between right and wrong.
Wow, it's fucking nothing.

>Which is what laws are based on.
Then why didn't the definition you provided say so?

>And you don't seem to really read any of my posts
You don't post anything worth responding to, just liberal-tier fallacy and utter disregard for historical precedent.

>You just go on about being bluepilled because some people don't like the idea of fucking children
Oops, you dropped the ball again. Remember? You were just talking about videos, not about the acts themselves. You already agreed there was nothing wrong with those. :^)
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>>53777622
Man, that's messed up.
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>>53777622
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>>53778410
If you fap to JAV you need to consider that it's very likely that the actresses are forced in some way by yakuzas
you're supporting the exploitation of women
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>>53784495
you are pathetically deluded and it is utterly sublime knowing you are utterly powerless to do anything other than post veiled passive aggressive revenge fantasies on pol
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>>53777764
People still use Internet Explorer?
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>>53783761
There is no amount of photographic evidence that is gonna convince a parent to allow someone to do what you're describing to their kids. And if they would I hope the kids would be taken away.

You're really messed up.
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>>53784623
>Then link some reports.
I meant the lack thereof. Despite investigations, no stories about the site having abuse or problems with the child models.
Same with LS.

>Society has already worked it out. Left and Right are pretty much in agreement. So much so that there's no controversy. At all.
No. Government and the media worked it out then fed the public scare stories while making it illegal to actually look at child porn and judge it for yourself.

Here, read this if you have an open mind-
https://www.newgon.com/wiki/Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes
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>>53777764
>filename
>Internet explorer
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>>53784841
>There is no amount of photographic evidence that is gonna convince a parent to allow someone to do what you're describing to their kids. A

Parents are often the ones doing though.
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>>53784751
Revenge fantasies? Hardly. I'm just trying to describe what would happen to anon would he spout this shot in a public forum.

What? Are you a deranged pedo too? Get help.
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>>53775406
honesty this one is the jews.

But mostly because the gentiles are too prudish to deal with sex for a job because of their "original sin" bullshit
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>>53784671

You're a complete faggot, I understand that now.

I'm only going to respond to one point, because you're too fucking retarded to make sense.

>You don't post anything worth responding to, just liberal-tier fallacy and utter disregard for historical precedent.

Show me, historically, examples of Child porn videos and pictures. You act as if they existed before there were cameras. Everything else is you being a contrarian fuck. A 30 year old man marrying a 13 year old girl is different than recording children fucking and spreading it to strangers.

Can you understand this without being a cunt about it?
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>>53784922
For now.
Times change.
We've been there before.
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>>53777622
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>>53784882
>incest cp is cool guys

.... I feel so stupid for being trolled by you for this long.

Good show.
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>>53784852
>it's all a conspiracy!
>here read this article posted on a pedo acceptance website
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>>53777622
>ITT: Anon goes full retard and gets himself v&
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>>53784955
>Show me, historically, examples of Child porn videos and pictures.
You want him to break the law?
No one's gonna do that here, but here's some history for you to enjoy.
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>>53784972
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>>53785002
OK have fun fucking off then you impotent shithead
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>>53784747
i'm counting on it.
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>>53784937
>"original sin"
No, that is a christian and jewish concept and it doesn't even apply since sex outside of marriage is the adultery sin not original sin.
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>>53784852
>I meant the lack thereof

And I'm fucking done with you.
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>>53784955
>waaah you're a faggot
>asks if someone else can not be a cunt
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>>53785088
no, xtians have a deep connection between sex and original sin. Jews just consider the fruit thing "not following da rules"
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>>53780053
nailed it imo
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>>53785044

He can't break the law, because there aren't videos from the 11th century.
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>>53780499
>make more in a few hours than you would otherwise make in a month
>WORST JOB EVER

My girlfriend is a prostitute and she's making more money than I am
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>>53776350
lol i thought of this
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>>53785100
run away with your tail between your legs you disingenuous queer.
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>>53784972
Yeah, ancient Greece will rise again right after they pay their debts.

Face it. You must live in the shadows or die. No one will stand you around.

Please just get help and stop looking at cp
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>2015
>paying for porn

Who are these people?
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They still charge ridiculous amounts for special kind of porn, that's why they make more money . I was curious and Decided if any "premium" bbw porn sites existed. They all charge 30-50 dollars a fucking month. Like what the fuck, I would have been fine with 5 dollars a month for 4k quality fat bitches but 30-40 a month for one site is pushing it. And apparently it fucking works since they are still in business
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>>53780499
>Olderish pornstars have to either marry a rich guy while they can or start selling fleshlights attending cons

Those two things are better than what the majority of women end up getting out of life. High class prostitution and porn are very, very well paying compared to most jobs that the average woman can get without a degree.
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>>53784955
Nice backpedaling, statist. You weren't talking about videos, you were talking about sex. And I quote:
>some people don't like the idea of fucking children
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>>53785178
I had a chance to date a camwhore once and I passed on it because she smelled like assjuice

Really stupid decision
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>>53785141
>>53785217

I can't tell who's Jewing who. So are you pro-CP? You're shitting on me for calling out a couple of pedos who use circular reasoning and poor arguments?
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>>53785235
he probably leads a better social life than you, you laughably pathetic fuck up. cry your faggy tears more, maybe he'll drown in them lol.
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>>53784751
>>53785007
>>53785084
>>53785141
>>53785217

Pedo fag, do us a favor and hang yourself.
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>>53775406
>Porn is worth roughly $12 Billion
How they make this money? Somebody still paying for porn?
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>>53784632
Your happy tale would be more believable had you not several times now brushed over or excused the way most CP is produced, in that it comes from the predatory behavior of people taking advantage of those powerless to prevent it. Your story instead tries to put forward the notion that child rape if just dandy because everyone comes equipped with coping mechanisms.

You're a broken bundle of rationalizations, sorry to say, and your way of dealing is to see that it happens to as many people as possible. It's a cycle of something.
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>>53785030
I do not possess any illegal material anymore.
I switched over to shotacon fully. Don't like being under the gun.

>>53785007
It's an admitted conspiracy. Feminists, street women, and christians teamed up in the not-so-distant past to get the government to create an age of consent.
This was at first limited to about the age of a girl's start of puberty, age 10-12, in most places.
The idea was to remove competition from the streets(older women couldn't compete with sexier, younger girls), to give women more rights, and with christians, stop unwed sexual activity in girls. The ages were raised to 15-18 as feminists championed on "men taking advantage of young girls".

As for the article, why not read it? Afraid your opinion might change?

>>53785100
You were done before you started. You argue with nothing but personal opinion and emotion, without backing yourself up with rational philosophy.

>>53785172
There's statues!

>>53785235
History is cyclic. You're going to see pedophilia become a legit sexual preference again just like we've seen with homosexuality.
And this time, because of technology, you won't likely see the taboo return once it's gone.
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>>53785324
Exactly, hasn't done anything but stir the shit pot
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>>53785077
top kek
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>>53785367
>making pathetic subhumans THIS butthurt

cry forever
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>>53785324
Oh dear, now you've started using terms incorrectly. How embarrassing.
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>>53785342
Wtf are you talking about? Go to bed.
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>>53785153
You need to review the Jewish encyclopedic entry for original sin.

Porn and sex still has nothing to do with original sin since it is an adultery violation in both christian and jewish teachings.
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>>53784632
You need a fucking bullet
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>>53785378
>in that it comes from the predatory behavior of people taking advantage of those powerless to prevent it.
This is not the case though.
That's what the government says happens and people like you believe it for some reason.
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>>53785283

>Nice backpedaling, statist. You weren't talking about videos, you were talking about sex. And I quote:

I was talking about both. I agreed that children having sex isn't necessarily wrong, and Child porn is a different issue. People don't like the idea of adults fucking children, so any argument advocating the legalization, or mora acceptance of CP will fail.

If you can't understand why people are anti child fucking, you can't have a reasonable opinion. It doesn't matter if their opinions are irrational, not being understand why people find something offensive makes your arguments insufficient.
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>>53785444
Just make once rational though, taking a definite stance on the subject.

Please.
I'll wait.
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>>53775406
Porn is less centralized. It doesn't all go to a couple jew studio heads.
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>>53785378
enjoying rollercoasters is nothing but a coping mechanism for the terror of rollercoasters
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>>53785451
>you've started using terms incorrectly

LOL. Okay. SJW tier right here.
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Hi, I am an SEO / Social Media marketer for a sex toy outlet and a few porn blogs.

Most of our money is indeed profit, however we work 10 to 12 hour days, 4 days a week each, in order to keep on top if everything. The industry itself is quite lucrative.. I just bought myself a brand new 5.0 liter Mustang GT in cash. It is, however, a very large amount of work initially, and it continues to be tremendous work as SEO rankings and what have you change. You spend a lot of money on advertising and marketing, and dumping back into marketing maintain rankings and relevancy, especially after Google's new Panda update.. but it is, at the end of the day, fun and worth it. I get to travel a lot and attend various conventions and see different parts of the world. It is, at the end of the day, a professional business. It's not sleezy or underground like most people think.
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>>53785549
You're drunk aren't you?
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>>53785573
gas the kikes race war now
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>>53785573
Shut up.
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>>53785471
I'm talking about broader cultural attitudes.
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>>53785573
>It is, at the end of the day, a professional business. It's not sleezy or underground like most people think.

So how would someone who sits on their computer all day with no connection to the actual production or administration of pornography have any idea what its really like?
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>>53777622
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>>53785660
Yea and there isn't anything much broader than the used up asshole you are pulling your information from.
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>>53777622

Fuck off
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>>53785486
>This is not the case though.
>That's what the government says happens and people like you believe it for some reason.

Maybe because the findings of a myriad of investigations conducted by both law enforcement agencies and concerned groups, thoroughly documented and corroborated in media, are inherently more credible than some anonymous pedo advocate.
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>>53785478
Your violent nature is revealing.
We live in a world where violence is not as taboo or as decried as sexual activity.
That sounds like a mental illness.
Psychopathy/sociopathy, anger issues, etc.

>>53785549
Yup. Apparently, enjoying something means you were abused and you actually hate it.
Women who cry about "rape culture" or who have their BFs charged with rape after feeling guilty about it later are apparently justified according to the anti-pedos ITT.
After all, the exact same logic applies to feminist rape culture that applies to pedophilia and child "rape".
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>>53785596
>being a passive aggressive pussy failure even on an anonymous imageboard

if you're this pathetic and cowardly on pol I'd have a blast watching how you deal with people irl.
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>>53785706
not really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin
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>>53785669
Im not a content producer, merely a marketer. However, when you look at some of the most competitive terms on Google (porn, nude girls, big tits, etc) what do you find? I can say that finding an actual sleezy porn studio is quite rare. The money is in tunes, blogs and what have you, which is what I bank on.
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>>53775406
12 billion, more than Hollywood
What?
One successful franchise, like the Avengers is roughly 10 billion.
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>>53785728
NOPE.avi
In fact, a large study that looked at these studies came out and found that the government and popular opinion about child sexual abuse was wrong and unfounded.

That study was immediately attacked by those same people you mentioned without any refutations proving it wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rind_et_al._controversy

Likewise there is the smaller Sandfort study which also found the same thing.
http://www.mhamic.org/sources/sandfort.htm

When actual science is done on this topic, the data collected always shows that pedophilia and underage sexual contact are not intrinsically harmful at all.
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>>53785740
>being a passive aggressive pussy failure even on an anonymous imageboard

By what means? You think you're gonna call me names until..... what? I call you them back? I don't feel the need to tell you you're a faggot, its been blatantly obvious this entire time.

I'm still waiting for you to say something about CP, all you've done is be an awful shill.
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>>53777764
kek i like on the bottom they have scams and safety right next to fun and games
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>>53785772
>something as insignificant as a slight deficiency
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>>53785570
>LOL
Literal underage. No wonder you're so retarded.
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>>53776178
So, it's like 1% Jew producers in porn? That's not very high.
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>>53784623
so children taking pictures of themselves and posting it somewhere shouldn't be considered criminals.

what if they take pictures of themselves, wait until they are 18+, should they be considered criminals then?
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>>53785494
In short, you literally don't have a single point. Just MUH FEELS.

Your ignorance is noted.
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>>53785994
Most are Italian
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>>53775406
>>53776178
I don't know where it goes all I know is its disgusting

>>53776844
>>53777622
god, degeneracy like you is not meant for this world, kill yourselves

>>53782103
libertarians like you don't know where to draw the line and, even if you did, you wouldn't know how to exercise authority. Fukken sad.
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>>53785909

He's projecting hard.
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>>53786067
just disgusting
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>>53776119
>50-100k a year
>for fucking

Yes, I consider that a lot of money. They are also dumb because the people producing make a shit ton more.
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>>53777622
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>>53786037

Did I ever say they should be?

Now grown adults getting 10 year olds to fuck is a different story.

Can't you find another thread to troll?
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>>53786067
>muh degeneracy
I see you fail to construct a logical philosophical argument.
We get it, /r9k/, you never got laid as a kid.
It's not too late. Go find yourself a twink.
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>>53786183
>Now grown adults getting 10 year olds to fuck is a different story.
Why? Quantify your logic.
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>>53786040

I've made lots of points. I'm sorry if you don't agree that empathy for children is a valid reason to form an opinion.

You're whole argument is literally "it feels good" so fuck off.
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>>53780953
underrated
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>>53775406
Consider they make less money per shoot, but film hundreds of different shoots a year. Most of these actors are set for life. Unfortunately many have severe drug addictions that they will waste the money on.
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>>53786205
I wish they made those shirts in adult sizes
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>>53786242
Only grandpas understood that reference. Are you a grandpa anon?
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>>53786113
I have a feeling you don't actually know what that concept means, like some mindless retard saying the word 'pretentious'.

but sure, make literally unprovable accusations while I describe behavior from an anti-pedo that you can directly observe with your own eyes
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>>53785385
Do you consciously make the link between what happened to you sexually when you were a child and your taste in pornography as an adult?
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>>53785903
>When actual science is done on this topic
Social studies are not science, feggit. Many studies are not reproducible, or have finding complete at odds with studies conducted under similar conditions, not counting those cases where professors have been found to fix their data to match their conclusions. Sociology departments are where shitty progressive social advocates like you (only more motivated than you) prefer to ensconce themselves in order to warp society to their tastes.
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>>53786239
>I've made lots of points
No. No you haven't. You just outlined your entire argument in your previous post and you didn't have a single point within it. All you've been doing is falling back to the other "muh feels" in response to the prior one being refuted.
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>>53776355

this tbh, anything to stop the zog machine
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>>53786342
>Social studies are not science
Guess what created this taboo in the first place? Dumbass.
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>>53775406
How they make money? Who are the idiots paying for something they can have for free in the internet?
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>>53786239
>I'm sorry if you don't agree that empathy for children is a valid reason to form an opinion.
You don't have empathy for children.

If you did you'd be able to do what I do.
Put yourself into the shoes of an 11yo boy who got caught making porn or having a sexual relationship with a 28yo neighbor.
He was doing fine for months until his phone fell into the wrong hands and people pried into his life.
They drag him to the police and make him talk about his private sexual exploits in detail as they leer over him.
His parents are likely there to boot making the whole thing a thousand times worse.
He begins to hate himself, and feel a crushing shame. The adults all tell him he was endangering himself without giving any reasons why, confusing him about it. If it was a case of him fucking an adult, they tell him he was horribly abused and the guy doing it never cared about him and all this other shit.

I don't know how you'd feel in that situation. I'd be devastated.
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>>53779418
>ad revenue

even the shit videos on xvideos get around 10,000 views lmao.

There are people (like me) who wake up every morning and check the new uploads on xvideos, shemaletube, and pornhub, and beeg
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>>53776178


>tfw Jews make money off of your porn usage regardless if you buy it and pay a subscription or watch for free, but site with adverts everywhere.
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>>53786232

Because someone being motivated by their own sexual desire--the teenagers, is different than someone being motivated by someone else's sexual desire--the child being encouraged by the adult.

The kids aren't acting on their own volition, for starters, and it opens up a lot of REAL potential for abuse. How can you even argue that that isn't true?

People generally don't want their children--adult children--involved in porn. So it's no wonder they wouldn't want their children involved either.

Now, conversely, tell me why child porn should be considered OK, without "muh feels". I'm guessing you can't.
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>>53786282
No, grandparents mostly brought me up though so I got a heavy dose of old-timey entertainment as a kid. Gilligan's Island, Hawaii Five-O, Statler Brothers and so-on were nightly entertainment for them, and therefore for me as well. I still watch Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy every night as a result of their gameshow habits.
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>>53775406

jews run big porno
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>>53786183
so you're OK with cp as long as it was produced by the child themselves and wait until they're adults before distributing it?

or should it still be illegal to posses even if the now-adult child in it says "its fine"?
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>>53786466
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>>53786466

I know that feel, mid 20s and I was raised on The Brady Bunch.
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>>53786462
>Because someone being motivated by their own sexual desire--the teenagers, is different than someone being motivated by someone else's sexual desire--the child being encouraged by the adult.
MUH FEELS

>The kids aren't acting on their own volition, for starters
Children rarely ever do. They're children.

>and it opens up a lot of REAL potential for abuse. How can you even argue that that isn't true?
Because your definition of "abuse" is literally just "MUH FEELS".

>People generally don't want their children--adult children--involved in porn. So it's no wonder they wouldn't want their children involved either.
MUH FEELS again.

>Now, conversely, tell me why child porn should be considered OK, without "muh feels". I'm guessing you can't.
Because you literally do not have a single argument why it shouldn't be, and censorship is inherently bad.
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>>53786283

>I have a feeling you don't actually know what that concept means,

You said he was

>>being a passive aggressive pussy failure even on an anonymous imageboard

Based on what? He doesn't agree with you?

No, it sounds like you are projecting your own feeling of being a loser onto people who don't feel the same things you do.

Do you think you're somehow better than an anonymous person on the internet because you are a pedo or pro-pedo? Something tells me you're not. And being ostracized by society at large causes a lot of anxiety which you project back at people.

I could be wrong, but that is my gut feeling.
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>>53786414
>Guess what created this taboo in the first place? Dumbass.
When the first father of an abused child killed his child's abuser with his bare hand in full view of their community and everyone present shrugged as if to say "Yep. The piece of shit had it coming."
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>>53786324
It's part of it. Can't deny this. All people start forming their initial sexual tastes at or around the time when puberty starts.
Other things also come into play.

>>53786342
>Social studies are not science, feggit.
They give us insight all the same. You were the one that brought up studies. Now that you've been shown the truth about those studies, you wish to disregard them. This is how SJWs argue, and it's no coincidence that anti-pedo sentiments match tit-for-tat the arguing style and baseless rationalization of other SJW topics.

You ignore reality like leftists ignore niggers causing the vast majority of gun crime in the US.
It doesn't jive with your personal beliefs.

>>53786462
The kids do act on their own volition. They do it because, and I know this is going to surprise you, the penis and vagina are spots on the body that feel good when you stimulate them. Amazing isn't it? Who would have thought that sex was pleasurable and people seek it out?
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>>53786666
>literal fantasy
Liberals, ladies and gentlemen.
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>>53786462
there is plenty of explicit evidence of kids acting on their own volition

without "muh feels" there is absolutely no argument why cp should be illegal, given that every single issue with cp, every last drop of it, is entirely within the realm of "muh feels"

but putting aside your hypocrisy,here's a logical argument: its been shown that access to pornography losers the rates of sex crimes, and its also been suggested that access to cp lowers the rates of child sex crimes. now, conversely, there has never been any concrete evidence that possession of cp leads to an increase in child sex crimes.
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>This whole thread
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>>53786703
I hope you get v&. You are deranged.
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>>53786726
If CP is legal then the elite won't have anything to bribe and blackmail their puppets with anymore.
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>>53786540
>>53786558
>tfw Wonder Years
>tfw Happy Days
>tfw I Love Lucy
>tfw M.A.S.H.
Thank you, syndication
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>>53786624

>Explain the difference please
>>Because someone being motivated by their own sexual desire--the teenagers, is different than someone being motivated by someone else's sexual desire--the child being encouraged by the adult.
>MUH FEELS
>MUH FEELS


>censorship is inherently bad.

>Muh FEELS

The irony is that your argument is literally "muh feels" and you can't see it.
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>>53786752
An ironic choice of image, considering it depicts a massive culture of pedophilia that far, far predates the so-called moralists that claim it's unnatural.
>>
Get molested as a child, it fucks you up and turns you into a pedo as an adult...

Ever wonder if the vast majority of society isn't wrong and maybe your opinion and tastes as an adult are deviant because being molested as a kid actually does fuck you up?
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>>53786797
The irony is that your post hasn't made any argument whatsoever.
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>>53786753
what year is this picture from?
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>>53786826
Your "vast majority of society" is a vast majority among societies themselves.

Ever consider that the entire world isn't wrong and that you're just another indoctrinated good goy?
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>>53786914
fuck if I know.
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>>53786703
>You were the one that brought up studies
Nope. I was the one who brought up investigations.

Of pedo rings, as to how they conduct their criminal behavior.

>>53786703
>>53786718
>SJW
>leftists
>Liberals, ladies and gentlemen
switch tactics mind

Do you guys share an apartment or something?
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>>53786946
is a vast minority among societies themselves*
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pleASE to helping me this men he men with my men 2 men with men but then men is men with men and this is no men because men ios men but also men with men and so men is then becom men and whenmen is become in the end is 2 mayb un brachable?
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>>53786753
Not going to happen.
I don't put myself in a situation for this to occur.

Literally every post ITT against me has been one of th following-
•desires to see me arrested/tortured/dead(says a lot about the people against CP and their sociopathy)
•ad hom attacks
•appeals to emotion without required backing of rational philosophy

What this infers is that I am right, and others are wrong, for if I was wrong, evidence would be posted proving this out.
I guess this is what a holocaust denier feels when facing the jews and German government.
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>>53777827
As much as they try to make it seem like its no big deal its still repulsive to admit you watch porn irl
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>>53786826
that's a complete myth. vast majority of abuse victims never become pedos, for the minority that do, it usually involves violent abuse, not just sex abuse.

it's also worth suggesting that someone who wants to fuck kids because of past trauma isn't actually a pedo. he isn't actually attracted to kids, he's just obsessing over his own past.
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>>53786703
>The kids do act on their own volition. They do it because, and I know this is going to surprise you, the penis and vagina are spots on the body that feel good when you stimulate them. Amazing isn't it? Who would have thought that sex was pleasurable and people seek it out?

Yeah, there are lots of child porn rings started by children, right?

I'm not talking about children having sex or sexual feelings. This whole goddamn thread is about porn.
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>>53786963
And now instead of defending your failed arguments you instead resort empty accusations.

It's like you've already subconsciously realized that you're wrong.
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>>53787034
>I'm not talking about children having sex or sexual feelings. This whole goddamn thread is about porn.
Cool lie bro. You yourself already stated you're talking about children having sex.
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>>53786905

It proved you are the dumbass I have said you are.

And the irony still holds.
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>>53787038
I'm not arguing with you. You're just a sniper and your post would have been ignored had you not done the same thing as the twisted mind with whom I was arguing.

It's like you're desperate for attention.
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>>53776350
oh shit, didnt notice it was shopped on. Neat.
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>>53787095
Pointing out your own appeals to emotion is, in fact, not an appeal to emotion. Try again.
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>>53786995
You disgust me. Just today some nigger was caught after raping some boy. The boy was a Russian orphan recently adopted. He slept in clothes with his shoes every night after and then eventually killed himself. The nigger was let out on bail today. He'll get a plea deal and be out eventually. People like him and you should be taken out back and fucking shot. Completely worthless.

You defended those disgusting pedophiles from Australia, who raped that boy and sold him to other pigs to do as they pleased. You think he's going to be normal after that? You took this too far when you started defending these abhorrent fucks. They prey on those weaker to pleasure their own desires.
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>>53787034
>Yeah, there are lots of child porn rings started by children, right?
Well, I've seen them post on pedo forums.
By nature almost any group is started by an adult.
The Girl Scouts weren't started by little girls.

As for kids making CP themselves, have a look-
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/03/31/new-survey-reveals-one-in-10-uk-pre-teens-admit-to-making-porn/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988095/Girls-young-seven-posing-underwear-photos-videos-end-hands-sex-offenders.html
And that's just the UK. The rate is likely higher in the US. And lots of boys in particular in self-made CP seem to come out of the NL, Germany, and Scandinavia.
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>>53787034
there's more than enough webcam shows started by children.
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>>53787186
>Just today some nigger was caught after raping some boy.
Post the story. Something like this would have to make the news.
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>>53787130
You're technically correct. Your post wouldn't even qualify as an argument, it's literal delusion.
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bandwidth
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>>53787034
>This whole goddamn thread is about porn.
Correction. It was about porn, until a set of (would be) criminals conflated that with their hobby.
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>>53787186
Wow, you sure showed him by posting even more appeals to emotion.
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>>53787175

Except I didn't post an appeal to emotion, I explained the literal difference.

I asked you to explain your point, without using an appeal to emotion...and you used an appeal to emotion

>censorship is bad

With absolutely no argument except

>MUH FEELS
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I wish I could kill you mentally deficient pedos myself. You all deserve a bullet to the back of the head, as soon as possible.
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>>53787261
You do realize that there are many places in the world even today where it's not a crime, right?

Hell, the britcucks do it so much they don't even bother enforcing it anymore.
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>>53787191

For one thing, how the hell do you know this? How many little kids have you jacked off to to know this tidbit.

>b..b...but MUH FEELS
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>>53787211
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/man-accused-of-raping-15-year-old-ran-group-home-for-boys-b99597080z1-332981731.html

Our justice system has been corrupted by liberal judges. Lets bring back corporal punishment, and instead of lethal injection how about firing squads. Lets not waste too many resources on people like you and him. If you ever directly molested a child I would have zero problems with the state ending your diseased life.
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>>53787305
Psychopathy is a mental illness as much as pedophilia.
Except your mental illness actually hurts people.
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>>53786995
"Pedophiles spend as much time consuming cp as the do trying to justify their existence."
- A nice little qoute I saw here
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You seem intelligent, pedophile man, but it's tragic to see how you've used that intelligence to justify your perversion to yourself as something you can view as rational and harmless. I understand you can only view the world through the reference of your own life experience, like all of us, but I think your child hood damaged you more than you are aware. I also feel that your idea of cp being mostly happy kids acting naturally and having fun is absolutely ridiculous. Talk to someone who investigates child pornography, not about the moral issue, but about just the factual details of the things they see.
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>>53787348
He's not a psychopath for wanting to defend the defenseless and weak.
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>>53787287
"Censorship is bad" is not an appeal to emotion, it's closer to an appeal to authority as it's one of the principles this country (which had nothing against sexualizing children until very recently) was founded on.

Maybe North Korea would be more your speed, since you seem to love totalitarianism so much.

You also didn't explain a literal difference, you picked an arbitrary distinction and failed to make any rational conclusion from it. Hence: MUH FEELS.
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>>53787342
>A man who police say raped a 15-year-old boy at gunpoint
So he forcibly raped someone with a deadly weapon.

This isn't part of the discussion. That's rape. Rape is bad regardless of age and if he had done that to an adult woman it would be just as wrong.

You're not making a point here. The boy did not consent.
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>>53787341
Oh look, an adhom now. As if minors aren't notorious for getting arrested for the same laws that are intended to protect them.
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>>53787272
What else is there to this issue? Children are being victimized and hurt. It is a disgusting crime and should be punished.

I wish the system was more fair, maybe Pedophiles consuming CP should get lighter sentences and instead be rehabilitated. IF rehabilitation fails, well then they can be put to work.

Actual predators are not worth the time.
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>>53787310
>You do realize that there are many places in the world even today where it's not a crime, right?
Not that many. But I'm sure you have the list of countries where you can get away with it, to go along with your fervent desires to one day become a sex tourist and rape of some little nigglet slave.

>Hell, the britcucks do it so much they don't even bother enforcing it anymore.
Pakis aren't British, and the British don't crack down on their rings because it would fuck over their suicide immigration policy. Hell, I don't even like the British but I know at least that.
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>>53787408
Yes he is, because he's not defending the helpless and the weak.
As I said before, children are no more helpless than grown women.
Both children and grown women are demonstrably weaker, less rational, and less capable than men by a huge margin.
There's no point in talking about "helpless and weak" in this topic as it implies that only children, and not adults, can be helpless and weak.
Red herring.
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>>53787408
Yes, go defend those children of literally every tribal culture on earth by killing all the adults they live with. I'm sure they'll be very grateful.
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>>53787452
The nigger thought it was consensual. Gave him some money, tried to add him on facebook.

Your line of thinking is not so dissimilar from his. That boy in Australia, did he consent? He got to travel around the world no?
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>>53785044
these two had a life long marriage, more than most of my shitty peers will ever accomplish
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>>53787494
Don't forget drawings. After all, it's the thought that's criminal. I suggest you start with >>53787512. That girl he posted is notorious for being a pedo icon. He's clearly closeted.
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>>53787423
>"Censorship is bad" is not an appeal to emotion,

Yes it is. And if you're going to ignore my reasons as appeals to emotion and then pull this shit, just go jack off to CP already because you're being a cunt.

> you seem to love totalitarianism so much.

And you wondered why I said you were projecting. SMDH fam.

ALSO WTF IS WRONG WITH CAPTCHA?????
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>>53787526
Explain what you mean, pedophile.

Are we tribals? We are fucking civilized. So yes, those cultures should be educated.
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>>53787570
>The nigger thought it was consensual.
No he didn't, hence his choice to use a gun to force the act.

Use some basic logic please.
>That boy in Australia, did he consent? He got to travel around the world no?
Yes he did. They only caught those guys because some other perv got busted and the cops found some porn they had made and traded.

>>53787594
Don't say that too openly. You'll incur their wrath.
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>>53787570
[citation needed]
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>>53787652

No anon, it feels good so do it, but don't make appeals to emotion otherwise you're a totalitarian liberal!

This is literally their fucking argument.
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>>53787652
>We are fucking civilized.
"We" put children on sex offender lists, permanently ruining their lives, for taking nude pics of themselves and sending them.

You're not civilized at all. You pretend to be. But civilized people do not see violence as a lesser evil than sex.
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>>53787621
Drawn lolicon is a victim-less crime. Well except for the consumer at least. It should still trigger a state response if someone is caught with it, but criminal sentences are not needed.
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>>53787738
>It should still trigger a state response if someone is caught with it,
Every person that says something like this should be forced to pay the costs of these actions.
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>>53787642
Learn what appeal to emotion is. While you're at it learn what adhom is too. You're just shitposting at this point.

>>53787652
>confusing indoctrination for education
Let me guess, you're a Bernie voter.
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>>53787724
Sexual violence count too. I don't think our current sex offender registry is fair or just either.
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>>53787694
They are mentally ill defectives.
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>>53787738
>Drawn lolicon is a victim-less crime.
So is consumption of CP, which is precisely why the states made it semi-legal in the first place.
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>>53787803
No, why the fuck would I vote for that socialist? I'll be voting for whatever Republican candidate wins the nom. Trump is best because of his trade policies, and immigration policy obviously
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>>53787694
>it feels good so do it
Wasn't literally your entire argument against it that it DOESN'T feel good?
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Yeah it is kind of weird how people consider it better for a 10yr old to starve to death in some poverty stricken area than live a life of luxury with a man who likes to lick her vagina now and then
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>>53787787
Oh fuck off. I'd gladly round up these degenerates myself. Seriously though, my taxes go to criminal justice already.
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>>53787876
Well you seem to think that the government, rather than logic, dictates what is morally correct. He's right up your alley.
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>>53775505

/thread
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>>53787684
He paid him, eventually he attempted to add him on facebook, its how the dumb nigger pedo was caught. The fool thought the boy must've liked it. I don't have a citation, it was on the morning news today in my city.
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>>53787803

You need to learn what logical fallacies are. Because you're just wrong on the "emotional appeal fallacy" bullshit.

And Adhom? You're just as guilty you piece of shit. ad hominem, just like emotional appeals aren't necessarily fallacious.

You are also guilt y of the fallacy fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

>b..but muh fallacy
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>>53787621
>That girl he posted is notorious for being a pedo icon. He's clearly closeted.
Not necessarily, its just one of many reaction pics I've accumulated over time. its just that you pedos are sluts when it comes to your "icons," in that you sexualize, obsess about and fantasize over every drawn underage girl.

Which would be relatively fine, were it kept 2D and not as was advocated for ITT.
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>>53787905
Because having sex without having a signed consent form over the age of 18 is LITERALLY worse than death. Didn't you know?
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>>53787887
For the child, yes.
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>>53787848
Production is often harmful for the child.
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>>53787887

Yes, it's harmful. If it hurts someone it's considered inappropriate. I'm making fun of your bullshit use of fallacy, and you finally see how dumb your argument is.

Thanks for arguing against yourself.
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>>53777622
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>>53787937
It is a responsibility of our Government to enforce morals and laws upon society. You are lower than an animal.
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>>53787984
You conveniently omitted the part where he held him at gunpoint and violently raped him.

>>53787991
I know exactly what logical fallacies are, it's one of the reasons why I've run rhetorical circles around you this entire thread.

And no, merely pointing out a fallacy is not the argument of fallacy. I do appreciate the fact you looked up fallacies on wikipedia for my sake though.

>>53787993
Anon people fap to those little girls. You basically have CP on your computer and posted them in this thread. The "cute not pedo" excuse won't hold you up in court.
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>>53788131
why?
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>>53777764
i saw someone post this before you thieving nigger
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>>53788019
>>53788055
So you're admitting that, because it doesn't actually hurt the child, it's all morally fine. Duly noted.

>>53788041
And in the cases where it's not?
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>>53788131
And according to Sanders, anything is immoral as long as you say so. Like I said, he's right up your alley.
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>>53788160
He's mentally ill, of course the nigger tried to rationalize it. Any sane person would know its a violent rape. My point is you and him are not so different. Your entire existence is based around defending your sexual dysfunction.
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>>53788160
>Anon people fap to those little girls
>2D
Better they fap to drawn girls and not underwrite the production of CP, which as a rule is harmful to the subject - in spite of what delusional pedo advocates with their arsenal of rationalization prefer to believe.
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>>53788160
>it's one of the reasons why I've run rhetorical circles around you this entire thread.

Jesus. If this were a proper debate, where this could be settled, you'd lose, plain and simple.

>And no, merely pointing out a fallacy is not the argument of fallacy.

I know, but discarding an argument because it may contain a logical fallacy is an argument from fallacy.

>>53788221

>So you're admitting that, because it doesn't actually hurt the child, it's all morally fine. Duly noted.

I literally didn't even say that. It's harmful to abuse children.

I hope you go back and read and feel bad.
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>>53788221
It should still be illegal. A child cannot consent.
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>>53788271
I don't believe in moral relativism.
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>>53788059
Posting a highly politically incorrect philosophical point on /pol/itically incorrect is not bait.

It's what the board was made for.
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>>53788221
>And in the cases where it's not?

So you should be allowed to drive drunk because it doesn't always lead to crashes?
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>>53788286
The "mentally ill" argument is long discredited. Both by history and recent study. Try again.

>>53788289
>which as a rule is harmful to the subject
Literally all of human history disagrees with you.

>>53788300
If this were a proper debate you'd have been thrown out the moment you failed to address that people have fucked children for millenia.

I didn't discredit your argument based on it being fallacious, I discredited it on account of being contradictory to reality. After that you began a barraged of fallacy, all based on an argument that had been refuted over 200 posts ago.

You are a cockroach without a head, posting with no rational process whatsoever. I suggest you stop for at least 10 minutes to try to conceive a single coherent point to contribute to the thread.

>It's harmful to abuse children.
Nobody contested that. What was contested was your shoddy definition of the word "abuse". You're like a leftist who claims everything is "rape".
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>>53776844
>child pornography is a great thing for society

People taking this discussion seriously..
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>>53788502
Degenerates like you have been around forever. Who fucking cares? It proves nothing. You are a defective, and should be corrected or removed from society.
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>>53788311
They don't need to. A child does everything else without consenting too.

>>53788328
Except you do. Your morality is literally dictated by what society and government tells you is moral, which is relative.

>>53788362
What's with simpletons and automatically comparing everything they see as "bad" with driving under the influence?

You are under a legal agreement, as a licensed driver, not to drive while under the influence. It has nothing to do with morals other than risk of grievous injury to other people that is completely out of your control.

In the case of consuming CP from areas where it's legal and safely made, not a single one of the above conditions apply.
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>>53788615
Well, it has been shown to lower the rate of actual cases of underage sex crimes.
Much like normal porn has been shown to lower the rate of sexual assaults.
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>>53788502
>If this were a proper debate you'd have been thrown out the moment you failed to address that people have fucked children for millenia.

So then child sacrifice should be considered OK also, since it was performed for millenia.

I'm sure the same people who would throw me out for that would agree we must reinstate slavery.

You are bad at logic friend.
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>>53788619
Oh look, back to adhomming. Your ignorance is made clear once more.
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>>53788627
Society and government is immoral and wrong too. Murdering the unborn is legal and seen as morally ok by society. My morals are my own.
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>>53788502
>The "mentally ill" argument is long discredited. Both by history and recent study. Try again.
HA! We have pedos in the sociology and psychology departments now! How do you like those apples?
We don't.

>>53788502
I wasn't paying all that great attention earlier, but weren't you already BTFO on the point of human history?

Historical precedent is no excuse to tolerate abuse. Crime is a historical precedent. It's a fact of life that there will always be criminals. Shitters whose very existence pollutes society is a historical precedent. Doesn't mean we don't judge them harshly for their behavior.
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>>53788682
You are a defective. It is not an ad hominem.
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>>53788666
Child sacrifice is something that wasn't practiced with the prevalence that sex was. If it was we'd be extinct from killing literally all of our children.

>muh slavery
Oh reddit. What am I not surprised.
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>>53788627

Everything you say is retarded. Literally SJW level.

>What's with simpletons and automatically comparing everything they see as "bad" with driving under the influence?

What's with simpletons promoting child pornography and drunk driving?

>You are under a legal agreement, as a licensed driver, not to drive while under the influence. It has nothing to do with morals other than risk of grievous injury to other people that is completely out of your control

OKAY, not killing innocent people has nothing to do with morals. Glad to know the exact extent of your lunacy.
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>>53788731
The vagueness of your statements reflects your ignorance of history. No, there has never been a period of time where "crime" has been culturally accepted to the degree of sexual relationships with children.

>>53788746
I'd say it's just butthurt.
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>>53788824
Glad to see you're incapable of thinking in anything other than sensationalistic strawmen, rather than rational thought. You're really not fooling anyone.
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>>53788912
Complete and utter disgust.

Are you a lolberterian? You give off that aura.
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>>53788799
>Child sacrifice is something that wasn't practiced with the prevalence that sex was. If it was we'd be extinct from killing literally all of our children.

Yes it was. And now you're moving the goalposts. Mister logic and his logical fallacies.

Child sacrifice was typically either the first born:

>all that openeth the matrix is mine

Ex 34:19. A reference to sacrificing the first born.

Or the weak and lame.

Here's some stuff for you to read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide

Again, you've been proven wrong, but keep going.

Also, the 'le reddit' meme for being against slavery? Lol. What the fuck is wrong with you anon?
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>>53779055
>that's the joke
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