>>53211613 People are already very angry, but Germans are stubborn and have a high pain threshold when it comes to these things. I don't think there is much room left for things to get worse before people snap though.
>>53211422 What does the *8 mean? A 800 k total illegals are comming in 2015, using the legal familly regroupment to raise that number to 1,5M for 2015 alone, but what is the *8? 8 years? The UN predict more migrants for 2016.
>>53211806 >What I don't understand is doesn't the media recognize that they will be victims of this too. They are slowly starting to realize that if they go on like this, they will be either strung up by the "refugees" or by the enraged population. Since about a week, the whole media did kind of a 180° and is constantly reporting on violent attacks and people disagreeing with Merkel rather than shilling fake pictures "drawn by children" or people clapping at train stations.
>>53211806 The explanation is simple: journalists select informations to support the ideas they stand for, so people will feel things that will make them more prone to think like the journalists. And the ideas the journalists have are fueled by feels. This is a mad mad machine with no driver, kind of like the red Khmer.
No individual can stand against it without being broken by the machine. Orwell told us. We just had to listen. This is the future we choose. We could have prevented it and so on.
>>53211422 >no houses :c >no food :c >winter is coming :c what the fuck did they expect? did they seriously think Germany had millions of apartments, cars, pounds of food, water, & lolis on standby? if only we had somewhere safe to leave them.. somewhere with tons of space & resources, where they could work hard to build their own future.. hmm, where in the world could we send these poor people :c
The first video is an interview of the president of the german police union Rainer Wendt. Critizising german politicians for their inactivity. What he's saying is basically: >signs of what is to come were already visible since the beginning of the year and everybody knew what scale this would take. >He reports that german police are at their limit for months already. >Criminality among refugees is a big issue, he says that rape of women and children, massive acts of violence, slavery and abuse are all visible. >Migrants know they can act however they want and get away with it aswell because they know about the states inactivity. >He demands every migrant that's breaking the law to be jailed and to be deported eventually
Here's the kicker tho, the video since then has been deleted shortly after. From the official news website where the interview was held and you won't find it on youtube aswell, hence the potato quality.
>>53212038 >>53212038 http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2015/10/05/97001-20151005FILWWW00052-allemagne-jusqu-a-15-million-de-refugies.php Here, an official note from german secret services expecting about 7.5 million people just for 2015
>>53212194 They better act quickly, because if their words aren't followed by actions, they'll end like Seehofer who is taking massive loses > http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article147310166/AfD-profitiert-von-Seehofers-deutlichen-Verlusten.html
Guess people don't like it that much when you make it obvious that you understand that everything is going wrong right now but still go ahead with full force :^)
>>53212493 I think everyone is reasonable enough to know that this doesn't hold true for all migrants that come here. But even if its only about 13% (which is the percentage of ISIS sympathizers among refugees according to a recent poll) you're looking at 200k batshit insane visionaries that will import their batshit insane family times 8, which is only happening for this year alone. Next year we have another 365 days times 10k immigrants making the trip to Germany.
Is this really reasonable? Should we just sit idle and say everything is fine?
>the dicks will have tickets back to their homecountries soon.
Germany is only deporting people at a rate of 10k a year. We need one year to rectify one day of immigration that's happening currently. And even then the deported won't even show up to take their flights back home.
Daily reminder end of oil is near and USA will collapse hard since their country is solely built around the idea oil is cheap and abundant. Daily reminder if there's no more oil Europe can reactivate a very efficient farming tool and limit human losses. Daily reminder USA don't want to be the only one to collapse and they want Europe and Russia to collapse first. Daily reminder USA force the refugees flood to Europe with their policy in middle east Daily reminder if Europe don't accept millions of refugees USA has the capability to fuck up their economy. Volskwagen was just a warning shot Daily reminder USA act against Europe interests and when we'll start to fight islamic refugees USA will call them rebels and will fund them and send them weapons. Daily reminder it is your duty as a European to consider americans as your enemy
>>53212861 >>53212841 >>53212831 That was the joke you turds. An "upstanding" refugee would go back once the reason he named for fleeing his country when applying for asylum is gone. Now think about how many would voluntarily go back and you know the number of respectable refugees.
>>53213041 Because USA pretended they found abundant oil And the consequence was the collapse of Russian economy Mmmmmh I wonder who did this... mmmmmmmmh... It is surely super genuine and USA didn't lie at all....
>>53213280 >Does nobody care about this? Its more that anyone who can put 1 and 1 together already knew this months ago. Since the beginning of this whole shitshow the police has repeatedly mentioned that they will not able to contain it if it goes on like this - and since then things have only gotten worse faster and faster. Of course they cannot guarantee the public order anymore.
>>53212905 Our founding fathers fucking hated Europe and just wanted to stand back and watch it burn itself to the ground, I really wish we would have. You'd all be speaking German or Russian by this point if we had.
>>53212410 How's this for a nobel prize? I'm fucking tempted to catch some brown snakes, and maybe some redback spiders and start breeding them only to release them in the wild. Us aussies can handle them with one hand tied to our smart phones, these shit skins will fuckin die if they even look at our new army of killer critters the wrong way.
>>53211422 There is only one problem: that it's allowed. Immigration should be banned by law, then we wouldn't have any problems, we wouldn't even need borders, because simply it would be against the law to give anything to any immigrant, which of course also includes Anglo immigrants and Jews. Immigrants would not even come, since they would know it's prison time and no money if they do migrate. As soon as you play the Jewish games of Christian vs. Muslims you already lost as a country and Jews will win. Simply ban immigration.
>>53212905 Daily reminder your countrymen just stood on the sidewalks and cried as Hitler road through Paris. It is funny, France seems to not be able to forgive themselves for having to have the USA liberate their country when they gave it away once already.
I bet once you realize, that once again you have given your country away to a foreign invader, you will stand on the sidewalk and cry, just as before.
>>53215319 Immigration should never ever happen, Jews have convinced you that some immigrants are needed because they are the immigrants. There is no need for foreign people in any country, what a foreigner can do, a native human can learn too. Those people from abroad come and exploit your country, especially if they are not tied to your country with money. All this idea that we need immigrants is bunch of bullshit and exploitation.
>>53215248 Daily reminder that the american and british secret services both admitted they could never have set foot in continental Europe if the French resistance didn't help them with such efficiency
>>53215603 Don't take the bait France. You were brave and stood up to Hitler in 1939 while the Americans hid like bitches. You did it even though you had lost millions a few years before. You lost honourably to the most powerful and well organised army in the world at the time. The Americans did nothing to help Poland/Europe until Germany declared war on them, then they claim to be heroes.
While we're all here, I'm looking for a video of a women explaining how islamics, in low population areas, are mostly placid, and conform to culture, but as population increases they start asking for special laws, no-go zones, and a gradual incline until they reach 100% when the shit hits the fan. I would be forever grateful.
>I welcome the head of the German police union, Rainer Wendt, to the studio. Mr. Wendt, the cabinet has now rubber-stamped those new asylum legislations. Will this be enough?
>Well it is a good sign, it is a sign showing that the politics are able to react; what I’m missing is that politics don’t react in due time. Everything has to be ablaze for them to start doing something. This could have been done one year in advance; at that time evidence for this development was already foreseeable.
>What do you mean with “ablaze”?
>Well, in our shelters for the refugees all hell has broken loose. At the borders in southern Germany, especially in Bavaria, hell has broken loose; our colleagues can’t take of their boots. But it’s not only since last week or last month; it has been going on for the whole year. Our federal police and especially the Bavarian state police but also in other [German] states, are under severe stress. And now everybody is acting as if the politics were surprised by this. This is not possible, no one was surprised, and there should have been a reaction way earlier.
>We hear “mass brawl in refugee shelters”, we even hear that supermarkets were raided. Does this add to the stress the police is experiencing? Do you fear that crime rates could be rising?
>Yes, this can be expected clearly. There are three topics: one thing are attacks on the refugee shelters that are taking place for months, the numbers exploded in this regard. We are heavily required to protect those shelters. Then there is crime committed by refugees, i.e. rape of women, and of children, massive use of violence, crimes in the sense of exploitation, enslavement. We see all of this. It’s not just brawls because of the living conditions in confined space, there are real distribution battles between refugees already, and battles for dominance, i.e. between religious groups, zealots that can’t be separated easily especially since private security personnel is overburdened. There are far too little and far too little qualified people.
>Do you notice a lack of respect for the most part in refugees towards the police, the officers?
>No, basically there is respect for officers, but there is no respect for our legal system. They sense very clearly that this state of law (Rechtsstaat) has shown weakness and that e.g. the asylum procedure has no influence whatsoever on their behavior. This means that they basically can do whatever they like, the state reacts only minimally. That’s why judiciary and politics have to make it very clear to the people, from the very beginning, that Sharia does not apply here, or any other religion, only German criminal law does apply, and that we are willing to enforce it. This is not only about familial disputes; it’s about serious crimes and serious punishable acts. The state of law (Rechtsstaat) has to demonstrate that if you commit crimes, if the persecuted becomes the persecutor, in those cases the state of law has to react, those people have to be taken off the streets and we should reopen the immigration detention centers (Abschiebehaftanstalt) for that purpose, that’s were those people belong. Nobody has the right to await the result of the asylum procedure in freedom. It is possible to await the result in a detention center.
>Mr. Wendt, the final question to you: there are calls to separate the refugees by ethnicities and their religious affiliations. Is this the way to go?
>No, what lies behind this thought process is a certain kind of helplessness. So you want to separate, but that’s nearly impossible. It is already difficult starting with religion. Who has to be separated from whom? Separate Sunnis from Shias? Separate Salafists from moderate Salafists and radical Salafists? They are all adherents to the Muslim faith for one. It won’t be possible. It is the same for the ethnic groups. If we want to separate them from one another we are preparing parallel societies at the hand of the state, this is also not possible. I think that we have to concentrate our efforts to protect the groups in severe need of protections, i.e. women, families with children and especially the Christians among the refugees. They need to be protected by the state. And besides, everyone who is living there has to be made aware of the fact, that German laws apply here, we are enforcing them, and everyone who violates them is only entitled to imprisonment and deportation afterwards.
>>53212540 >>53216750 You are sort of right, you can make your welfare system collapse if Germans massivelly refuse working to pay taxes funding it.
All patriots in germany should just quit their job and subscribe to welfare to make this system collapse faster, like some sort of civil resistance. You shouldn't participate in funding a state that's betraying you. Hit where it really hurts : money.
>>53216967 >back to Poland No, come here. The last Pole I met was openly racist yet scared the liberals off by looking like he just came from a strongman competition. He was a plumber, ironically, and a very eloquent man for someone who had just learned to speak English.
I think you Germans should have a bit more hope. It's not like the German people to give up. You've risen, trampled onto the ground and chucked into the gas chambers worse problems then this. Just never forget how to fight.
>>53211613 I cant speak for Germans, but here, there are a lot of people who realise multiculturalism does not work and do not want more third worlders here. the problem is, we also don't want to be associated with chest-beating, flag waving skinheads like EDL or illiterate morons like Britain First, so any cohesive protest is difficult
>>53217238 >the problem is, we also don't want to be associated with chest-beating, flag waving skinheads like EDL or illiterate morons like Britain First You should probably stick to defending those whoring your daughters then.
>>53215248 >Daily reminder your countrymen just stood on the sidewalks and cried as Hitler road through Paris
And how is it a bad thing you fucktard? Communists were in charge in France when WWII started. Do you really think french Generals were communists? You attacked and ruined Europe don't swap the roles burgerfuck
>>53217796 The media did change its mind to some degree yeah, but its still just pretentious nonsense. Talks about how we will have problems and need a new approach to integrate these people but not much about closing boarders, deporting people, refugee crime etc. Just the pics and broadcasts about "women and child" refugees pretty much stopped.
>>53217796 yes, most of the media did a 180 and so did some of the left leaning parties. that does not mean they actually changed their views on the situation, they simply try to profit from it. that said, they still also bring pro-refugee stories and propaganda at the same time and let people like UN officials shill for more refugees.
Nothing bad with immigrantion itself. You know, people dont chose where they are fucking born, so if they feel related to some other country they should go. But, the thing is in being related, that is, having actual patriotic feelings and not being a fucking parasite.
>>53217796 I wouldn't go as far as calling it a 180° turn, but you can definitely see a change in media coverage regarding this topic. While in July, August and up to the 3rd week of September, basically everything negative/realistic was covered up and all you could see was 'refugees welcome' assholes and volunteers helping and donating here and there. But the narrative changed a lot and now most of the coverage is pretty critical, although not nearly enough.
If you read a more right newspaper like Die Welt you can get a fairly good overview on the topic, while Der Spiegel is still spewing leftist propaganda as if theres no tomorrow.
Just today it became known that Albanians in a 'refugee' camp are taxing other refugees shower money. Just a few weeks here and already establishing mafia structures, geez. In my university, there is no other topic anymore and everybody's blood is boiling.
Let's wait for the winter and for conditions to worsen. Let's see policemen starting to lose their shit. And let's wait for the 'refugees' to realize that Germany is not and never will be the Land of Milk and Honey for them. They will be chimping out and the backlash will come
>>53217796 What's happening in Bavaria is just massive. They're starting to realise it was all a very bad idea and they're slowly loosing control. Everybody's turning on Merkel, even people from her own party.
>>53215732 >You were brave and stood up to Hitler in 1939 while the Americans hid like bitches.
Eurofaggots had already drug us into WWI and we didn't give a fuck that germany was taking revenge for the nonsense treaties that were forced on them.
The U.S. should have stayed out of WWII as well. The thousand year reich would be having none of this Islamic invasion cuckshit. Now instead French hide in their houses while muslims burn their cars in the street and fight the police.
>>53212194 But if they Misstrauensvotum this suicidal Schwanzenlutscher some day soon, who's going to take up the Bundeskanzleramt? Seehofer? Sigmar Gabriel? Fucking Von der Leyen? Don't even bring Alternative für Deutschland on the table.
>>53215732 You fucks got out maneuvered through the Ardennes again. Americans sent you every damn thing you used to fight and eat. They just didn't want to lose men in Europe's wars. Props to BE in SE Asia and North Africa. Also, >opens fire on French armada so the Germans can't take it
I dont think you understand how the political system in Germany works. There is no legal way to remove Merkel from power, Merkel knows this, this is why she is doing what she's doing. No term limits, she could remain chancellor until the day she dies.
Even if the right-wing party AfD magically gets 30% of the votes in the 2017 election (and this will never, ever happen), it wont be enough to replace Merkel, and Merkel would never form a coalition with them.
Nothing, nothing but civil war and a violent, highly organized insurgency can stop this from happening. And you can forget about this.
What are you are witnessing right now is the genocide of the german people at the hands of its corrupt zionist occupied government. The germans are too stupid, too brainwashed, too decadent, to do anything about this in an organized fashion.
>>53221843 "I dont think you understand how the political system in Germany works" >Yeah, I didn't know she couldn't be legally removed from power. I'll have to look into it again. I also didn't know there was no term limits. Again, I'll have to check that.
>What are you are witnessing right now is the genocide of the german people at the hands of its corrupt zionist occupied government. The germans are too stupid, too brainwashed, too decadent, to do anything about this in an organized fashion. I know. This is getting on my nerves. It's not just Merkel fucking up, it's how the German mindset looks like today. Just watch the Tagesschau. It's gay as fuck.
But would the AfD Be any good if it could manage to come to power anyway? I don't see Lucke or any of his "partners" do anything vagely relevant to save Germany.
And sadly, it looks like most other parties are just proxies to ally with to get a majority. And when they don't, they're leftist, passive stupid cucks. SPD, Die Linke, die Piraten,...
What if the person comes from a country where he cant work out his/her potential? Or even worse, if that person does not like it there... There is nothing worse than a person hating the country, and such a person should move to a country more likable to that said person.
>>53222423 >needs someone like Le Pen or at least someone like Strache.
Strache sounds good, but I'd rather have a tougher version of Orban. And Le Pen has been disappointing me recently. Just remember she's down with the sandniggers. They vote for her because she talks shit on jews.
Well some of the Algerians are ok, consider that some of them are descendants of French loyalists who fought AGAINST Algeria becoming an shithole outside french rule. Most of the Algerian FN membership are, to me, 10x bigger frenchmen than any libtard cuck.
Lets not forget that France, Germany and any developed strong European nation will always have immigration, but what they all need are conservative nationalist parties who will tightly regulate immigration, that is, let only those who can fastly intergrate and who's professions are needed.
>>53222993 Nah, I'll just keep on voting NV-A. The problem is that as soon as you out yourself as anti-immigration you receive the stigma of a racist. I'm not a racist, I just hate backwards ideologies & Islam.
>>53223108 >Nah, I'll just keep on voting NV-A. Well I can't really do that myself, since I'm from the South. Try and be proud of your nation there. They'll bring up chocolate and shit and ask you to be "proud of your country". Like we weren't a glorious colonial set of nations 50 years ago. You simply DON'T reveal your power level at any time in cuck-stronghold Belgium. Though I'm surprised it's the same thing up North.We're a leftist cuck nation, let's face it. Most people vote for leftist, mafia-like parties out of habit or because muh social benefits.
>>53223382 The symbol of one particular nation at a European summit. "Get that monstrosity out of here, I want to see blue and yellow flags all over the damned place." And Germans are scared to be proud of their country, especially people from Merkel's generation.
>>53223303 I'm frustrated by the amount of cucks that keep on voting on socialist/green parties who appease to mudslimes. It's really cool to vote 'green' over here. I do have a feeling it'll change in the coming years. These immigrants will never leave by their own. I just hope for a harsh winter.
>Business English at college today, first class this semester >everyone's given a questionnaire and we're supposed to interview the other students with it (it's a small group) >one of the questions is randomly about whether or not we've met any refugees recently >the only* one who did is a grill from a town a bit away from here >they dumped 800 “refugees” in an asylum in her street >she says they're only seen on the street in packs of 10+ >men, only men, she's not seen a single woman >her boyfriend already tells her to not leave the house alone, but she needs to walk her dog and is very uneasy every time
*I'd forgotten until after the class that I've actually met one of the two Eritrean Christians my parish has taken in. I approached him after mass once to ask him about the situation in Eritrea but his English was pretty bad and he didn't seem to have understood my questions.
>>53223669 Down here, they all vote for Elio Fucking di Rupo. That guy is what's wrong with our country. Hope Wart de Bever eventually brings in some order in this country. Of course they won't leave. One has to be stupid or delusional to think otherwise. Those fuckers are here to stay. They didn't come all the way up Northern Europe just for peace. They're here for the benefits. Let it snow. Those migrants in Bavaria and Sweden are going to have some pretty good fucking time. Then, they'll realise it was a bad idea to go to Europe.
>>53224301 >What are the cucked libtards gonna do? Call that guy racist too? They just might. I believe that's what some have pulled off against Nigel Farage. But it didn't work so well, since Canada, Switzerland and Australia already do that and they don't get called racist. I guess what you have to realise is how politics in Western Europe get argued over with moral principles and how much good-doers and politically correct speakers constantly try and get the high ground over you. I've seen people argue over TAFTA by saying it was our moral duty to get into an alliance with the USA to enforce our principles. In Parliament.
>>53224612 People will refuse to pay, say that they can't or whatever, no one can check anyway, and since it is an human right to be healthy, the state will have to pay. How do you think they have housing in the first place?
>>53224773 And that's just for the ones that come in 2015 and call themselves refugees. We already have around 20% (I believe) when you factor in people with foreign born parents but were born here themselves.
>>53226968 If the unity manifests then no other issues except voting against the 30% sharia law bloc will matter. Democratic choice on any other issue will be over. If the unity does not manifest, then hello Germanistan.
>>53227421 Al-Almaniyyat will probably need another short angry Austrian boy.
Most of those people live in fucking bubbles. They frown at the sight of blood, let alone gore. They get offended if you only so much as mention Hitler. They can't even imagine how determinated and hard those people must be. They just think the power of love is going to solve everything. What do you expect of people like that?
>>53212182 That's a terrible idea. The fierce competition for survival will only breed a ruthless breed of supersandman that will be even harder to stop. The only hope would be they interbreed with abos.
>>53239388 >refugee crisis now a matter for the boss
Chefsache = something the boss does himself because he doesn't trust anyone else to handle it
The top pic is from an upcoming movie "Er ist wieder da" (He's back again) about Hitler waking up in Berlin 70 years after his death, confused and trying to fit into society. Title says "Der schon wieder" ((Oh,) he again.)
So yeah, Hitler is taking on the refugee crisis himself, now.
>>53239890 also: Merkel made the crisis "Chefsache" because she didn't trust our minister for inner affairs, de Meizere, anymore since he started to express critical notes about her plans or the lack thereof
>>53221843 If a large group banded together to physically remove her from office there isn't much the government can do short from firing upon its own citizens. Any government in power should be sufficiently afraid of its population, not the other way around. >>53239890 Oh shit I need to watch this. Sounds like a good movie.
>>53240684 One of the worst things our country has done to another. We gut countries completely and leave them to die. Its kind of ironic seeing as the US is one of the most nationalistic countries.
The media makes money. They show what makes money. At first it was the pictures of kids and shit to pull at people hearts. They will switch to the damage that is being done once the first money runs dry and immigrants are there doing damage.
>>53213973 This isn't true at all. Without recognition from the international community post war of independence America would've been a isolated rogue country no better than ISIS. Your founding fathers craved recognition and the legitimacy that went with it and literally hawked themselves all over Europe pleading with us to accept them into the international community as an equal.
Why don't we just fucking put them in secure segregated housing facilities and harness them economically by putting them to work like Americans do with their prisoners then send them back when their countries are "safe" again perhaps offering trial citizenship for particularly diligent refugees. I'm not talking inhumane work they would be fed and given access to all basic facilities but as soon as they start shit they would be transferred to prison and deported as soon as possible if they are not willing to earn their keep in exchange for their safety then obviously where they came from wasn't dangerous enough.
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