I'd like to propose a question to /pol/: Why has ISIS not attempted to attack Israel? Since it's inception, ISIS has taken over large parts of Syria, infiltrated Iraq, attacked Iran, constantly threatened Egypt, attempted to enter Lebanon, yet not once, not even verbally attempted to attack Israel, even though it controls large border areas along the Golan heights?
It is a duty according to Islam that the city of Jerusalem to be liberated I've heard, so why have these radical Muslims who are out to "spread the true Islam" have not tried to fulfill this duty?
Or could ISIS be the perfect ploy in an Israeli scheme? Consider this: ISIS serves many purposes that all serve Israel. It has dramatically weakened Syria, attacked Lebanon, destroyed Iraqi heritage and minorities and also attacked border towns in Iran (all Israeli enemies). It is apparent that Israel is benefitting from ISIS weakening all the surrounding Arab states, while also continuing to support the idea that Islam is evil, scary, and crazy, while Israel remains the only 'good' ally to the west. However, why are Israel treating ISIS fighters in its own hopsitals, taking out bombing runs on pro-Assad areas, while Iran and Hezbollah have been arming Christian, Yezidi, and Kurd militias, fighting alongside them to eradicate the ISIS cancer. The US seems to have realized this, and changed stances by removing Iran and Hezbollah from the threat list, while taking a tougher approach with Israel.
>>42719386 >the idea that Islam is evil, scary, and crazy Oh... I thought the Jews were introducing Marxism ideas in Western nations, which promotes "everyone is equal, you are even more equal if you're a muslim"?
Pull your head out of your ass please. In Europe we are 24/7 reminded NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE EVIL ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE.
>>42719497 Israel are not equipped for a large scale guerilla war. Iraw proved how hard it is, even for the most powerful military in the world (US), how tough it would be to combat an insurgency. ISIS are the biggest militia on the face of the planet currently, and the extent to which the air strikes on them have been unsuccessful has pointed to how hard it is for an organized army to combat a militia through traditional means. Israel failed to achieve any of it's goals with its 2006 offensive on Hezbollah, and Hezbollah, while better trained is a far smaller militia, and with much different ideals than ISIS.
>>42719666 >offensive See that's the entire point. If you're trying to ATTACK them you'll surely lose. These guys are good at setting up traps and using their knowledge of the playground to their advantage. I don't see ISIS invading Israel, fighting against jet fighters and Merkava tanks in their toyotas.
>>42719717 >Do you seriously think that it would not be in Israel's favor to show the world this side of it's surrounding Arab states? What has Israel to gain from unrest in their European puppet states? It will eventually lead to civil war and that is really bad for the economy, and also for "THE RICH ZIONIST ELITE :DDDDD"
>>42719666 >Israel are not equipped for a large scale guerilla war couldnt agree more. the army can take it, the economy cant. the entire goal of the army is to crush enemies fast and it is impossible if they are hiding, like they did in gaza. i know that youre aware that the middle east powers will shift soon, borders will change, so it will be interesting to watch what happens.
>>42719818 Serious question to you, and I mean it in the most objective of manners. I can understand the absolute carelessness you might have towards the Palestinian people, but when the IDF hammer them to the point of no return, with hundreds of kids slaughtered, what is your, or the average Israeli's views on the matter?
>>42719919 Basically the only real civil unrest was in France when the Charlie Hébdo incident happened, nothing to do with ISIS. But guess who was on the frontline marching in support during the rally?
>>42719919 it is hard to say because of countless factors involved in it. only one thing is certain: it will be interesting. >>42719961 do you guys actually believe that? yes kids died in the war, but it was war. give me one modern war without civilian casualties, you cant. in peaceful times palestinians are not killed, this is dumb propoganda, RT level propoganda. if we wanted to slaughter the palestinians than xplain to me why im, along with every single israeli citizen, pay our taxes to give them free electricity, food, medicine, building supplies? most of this is used by the hamas against us yet we still do this. why?
>>42720134 Speaking from experience, I remember in the 2006 war with Israel, the IDF bombed a building in the Lebanese town of Qana (google Qana massacre) in which one single building was destroyed, and it had over 40 children below the ages of 10 in it. All died. The images of their deaths, however, were not prevelant in the mainstream media, or RT. Ironically, the same town was the victim of a similar type massacre in the previous war with Israel. So when you see the images of Palestinians on the news, it's not difficult to imagine that many civilians have been slaughtered needlessly.
>>42719961 also, try to imagine different scenario: the jews are minority and muslims took over israel and settled in it. do you really think that the muslims will pay me to build my home, give medicine to my old mother, feed me and give me energy? Wrong, they will probably behead me for talking shit about them and genocide us until no one is left (proof? see how religious minorities are treated in muslim nations). we can do the same, but were not doing that. we decided to give them land when we could kill them all and annex it. the C territories are the first ever palestinian controlled land.
>>42720189 Being some random loser doing shit in the name of ISIS is different than actual military operations that are carefully taken out by them. Alot of people claim to be part of the caliphate, when in reality they have no idea what that means. If they knew the horrors they commit, I'm sure most would repent. Or I would hope so.
>>42720262 yes it was a horrible tragedy. they happen in a war. you can understand and somehow accept human mistakes in war, no matter how horrible they are. BUT you can never accept the bombing and shooting of schools, eldery houses and buses in PEACE time. the fact that it was our mistake vs the fact that you intentionally murdered thousands in peaceful times. israel had horrible mistakes, everyone does, just look at the history, but it was never intentional killing, unlike the palestinians.
>>42720419 how's that a propoganda? everything i wrote is a pure fact. i saw a palestinian TV program for kindergarten children talking about murdering jews, this is propoganda. jidf's shilling about how great israel is, this is propoganda. i just wrote facts and until proven wrong this is not propoganda at all.
>>42720320 I'm not so sure. Here, in Beirut recently, the largest synogogue in the country was recently rebuilt in the heart of the city, with no one minding it. The restoration was actually paid in large by a Lebanese corporation that offered donations.
There was a respectable number of Jews in Lebanon before the civil war, until they fled to Israel of course. Believe it or not the synogogue I'm talking about was destroyed by Israeli air strikes.
Also, were there not Jews in Palestine before the Israeli state was created? How come were they not slaughtered as you suggest? It is true you might provide them with electricity, and such, but hoe many of them are actually members of your parliament? Why are they forced to go through rigorous checkpoints to get from point A to point B? Why has there been a huge wall (also paid for with your tax money) been built to enclose them in a city sized prison?
>>42720134 >pay our taxes to give them free electricity, food, medicine, building supplies? most of this is used by the hamas against us yet we still do this. why? because you only allow your tax funded supplies to get through. do you have any idea how markets work?
>>42720488 >allowing someone to rebuild his own religious building without murdering the fuck out of them this is the highest tolerance levels a muslim country ever achieved. and by the example i gave you of jews vs muslim majority, i meant switching sides - this wasnt the case since the jews were quiet minority and did not bomb buses or demanded a country. no palestinian is a member of our parliament since palestine is not a part of israel. you dont have syrians in your parliament dont you? in order for them to join our parliament we have to annex them first and this is why many jews including me dont want to do because it will result in many muslims in the parliament and we want jewish state. there are many israeli arabs and their votes are equal, their party is the third largest. also only the checkpoints ensure safety. we didnt want them and there's many reason against them but they are the only thing that stopped the bloodshed we had in our streets. same thing with the wall.
>>42720551 not really, they are allowed to trade, import and export. did you see their shopping malls? so many goods that it will make the biggest US mall be jealous (it was from IDF propoganda video where they showed palestinian malls). they just dont want to pay for the stuff we give them and when we stop giving it to them they cry "israel is killing us"
>>42719386 >Why has ISIS not attempted to attack Israel? Because they are weak and not willing to take the risk for assault. If they gathered as a large group at the borders of Israel they will be destroyed and they know it >Or could ISIS be the perfect ploy in an Israeli scheme? you are a fucking moron ISIS threatened Israel gazilion times they want Jerusalem. But they have the vision of the Islamic state before it. Including Islamic state of Iraq, Syria and Lebanon, by the way Read a little about these organizations before you raises speculation. You sound worse than Ahmadinejad
>>42720785 You are probably right that there will probably never be a high tolerance for Jews in most Arab states, but you have to admit that it's understandable considering the conflict. However, the small Lebanese minority of Jews are given all the same rights as any others, they are allowed to vote, to recieve benefits, to worship freely. It is absolutely prohibited for anyone to stop them. If Muslims actually did not tolerate minorities than the president of my country would not be a Christian.
In regards to your point of having to annex the Palestinians, I understand what you mean, as even Lebanon has refused to annex the roughly 400 thousand Palestinian refugees here, largely due to the economy not being able to handle it, but if you're so keen on keeping them within their Palestinian state, why do you keep colonizing the West Bank?
>>42721015 Is that why you've treated ISIS fighters in Israel? You are kidding yourself if you think that the Islamic state will ever happen. They're not coming through Lebanon, that's for sure. And they'll be out of Iraq soon enough. Why don't you take your compatriots example, and be civil in this thread.
>>42721040 i said religious minorities, christians, injuans and whatever, they are all included. the hate and crimes toward all of them are also because of israel? lebanon is tolerant to this, but its a very, very rare sight in the world of islam. people still believe in "eretz israel shlema", full israel, with the west bank included. they want israel to annex the west bank so they settle it.
>>42721158 >I talked about their vision You raise speculation about cooperation between Israel and ISIS And display it On the basis of Question Why ISIS dose not attacking Israel? And I tell you that the basis itself lags that if they could they would attack without thinking
>>42720134 What are you talking about giving shit to the Palestinians?
It's their land that Israel stole. It's their resources! Israel has cut them off from their aquifers. And UN and US gives millions of dollars to pay for Palestinians expense: electricity, water, food - which Israel limits. Ever heard of the electricity being cut off every now and then in Gaza? Oh yes, the building supplies like cement that was used to repair and rebuild the infrastructures that destroyed by Israeli airstrikes in Gaza...nope still in rubbles.
Like fuck off you jew kike, and stop poisoning their wells.
Israel is sponsoring ISIS, Al-Nusra, and Syrian rebels.
>>42721316 most of the israelis, including me, are against that. i would love for them to leave so we can annex the west bank, but allowing 1.5 million palestinians into the democratic system will ruin the "jewish state" idea and will ruin the demographics. i dont want to live in another muslim country yet i dont want to give up so much land, this is hard issue, but i think that giving up on imperialism is the only way. besides, looks like the palestinians themselves dont want a country. israel gave them proposal with the best conditions possible in 2006 (they wont even dream about these conditions now), yet abu mazen never gave a clear answer about it, he just took it home and never talked about it again. why is that?
>>42719666 Exactly , gorilla wars on your land is almost losing situation , look at they syrian army , they got shrekt by unorganized groups , destroy everything doesnt help either because 1- you're destroying your own country 2- you will kill more civilians than soldiers ISIS are just phony bitches , since you're Lebanese too I suppose you'd figure that already
>>42722299 >if they could they would this is an opinion at most. >shill you jumped in screaming "oy vey you ahmanenijad" "how dare you blame israel" yes, youre a shill. youre not arguing with logic or facts.
There was an excellent article on a US news website which I forget the name of. It went into great detail about ISIS' views and having read the Qur'an and a number of other Islamic documents myself it made a lot of sense (not claiming to an expert on Islamic theology before anyone has a go, merely a lay person). ISIS are more focused on uniting Islam (by converted or massacring), then they'll go after the Saturday and the Sunday people (Jews and Christians), probably in that order.
>>42719386 is is still consolidating land and seeing where they will hold out after a far reaching recruitment effort in the devastated levant areas. they will be strongly allied with the remainders of Palestine.
>>42721316 imo we'd better keep it as it is currently w/o further settling.. or even throttle it back a bit. Supplying, tasking military to guard those settlements and all that shit is expensive.
Personally I hate haredim more than palestinians, they are parasitic scum. One of their party's lead guys (Arye Deri) sat in freaking jail over corruption, and now hes gonna be in the current govt. Might as-well vote lefties next time just to see what happens eh
>>42723265 why most of the canada flags dont like israel so much in pol?i mean i know that everybody Hates us but there are some who said some positive things mostly from US,Franch,japan some others maybe etc... the point is every time i see canada flag i see hate stuff you have an answer for that?(Not generalize to all Canadians) the most secondary country that hate us in pol i would say UK but sometimes i see some good turn too...
>>42723697 To be honest that's what ISIS is trying to do , as a muslim we should protest against ISIS more than we did against the comics , ISIS is the biggest insult to us , we should show the world we dont approve what those fuckers do.
a.) Hordes of ISIS soldiers start popping up within the country and/or flooding over the borders b.) Palestinians throw in their lot with ISIS and start going apeshit with weapons smuggled in by ISIS c.) Nasheed videos of Israeli towns and cities getting razed start popping up all over the internet, with jews getting ripped out of their homes and summarily executed/beheaded
I mean honestly, what could they do short retreating to their larger cities, declaring indefinite martial fucking law, and attempting to shoot anything that comes near?
>>42723823 don't matter dude, the western media will always be against us, they will keep telling people that ISIS represent Islam, and given the fact that Fox news is the most trusted news outlet in the U.S, it's a lose situation for us Muslims out there, so, i guess we have to live with it. sad news for Muslims living in Europe and/or U.S because Islamophobia is aggressively growing out there.
as for me personally, when i get called a terrorist online, i just nicely ask them to actually read the Quran and come back to me.
>>42724094 a) Honestly Bombs them the fuck out b)>weapons smuggled Can not do that since Operation Defensive Shield c) Modern armies could not penetrate so why do you think those fucking sandniggers terorrist bullshit will Succeed?
>>42724348 >genuinely interested in Israeli politics if you do read about the main established parties start with the "Likud" and "havoda" left and right Note Likud leaders have served in the army High levels And they are Right Center and the havoda is more Liberals And socialists Currently many of them in opposition
>>42724474 you haven't. most people like you go to some website, read some out of context, poorly translated phrases that were said during a war, like "Kill none-believers" and use it as "evidence" for "violence" in the Quran. that's a typical "i read the quran" person.
>>42724509 >The same reason why the 9/11 attack was successful with that i could agreed but This country is built on an high security Designations Ready for everything and seen it all Before the attacks came to Europe and the United States Israel suffered the same amount of triple Terrorist attacks If you had a vague idea of how fast the response here too Such threats
>>42724768 Kill those against Islam: "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter," (Quran 5:33).
Beheading: "When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger. 13That is because they opposed Allah and His messenger. Whoso opposeth Allah and His messenger, (for him) lo! Allah is severe in punishment," (Quran 8:12).
Allah urges war: "O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand," (Quran 8:65).
Slay non-muslims: "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful," (Quran 9:5).
>>42724798 Think about it this way. There are 1.5 billion muslims in the world. If they were all violent, the entire world would be in complete turmoil. However, an extremist minority, mostly compiled of the poor, uneducated, and war striken people have been giving out such a violent image. Even in Europe, the poor imigrants that create crime, and turn to extremism due to their poverty are also in the limelight. However, the successful, integrated immigrants go on unnoticed, meanwhile they may very well be the majority.
>>42724895 It's not easy to explain, and I'm not the only one who think that but I looked at it as a transient term The left is very problematic to Israel But not for only four years. In fact the idea is to take out Netanyahu at all costs After four years we will chooses another right-wing bloc leader in the hope for better one than this demagogue
>>42724988 are you dumb everywhere but the west islam is incredibly violent and oppressive. Thats because western islam isnt islam, its "tolerance islam" you can call yourself whatever you want as long as you follow the same lifestyle as every other westerner, it doesnt make you muslim to anyone but your other limp dicked faux "peaceful" muslims. Its exactly the same as a person thinking hes a wolf in a humans body because his little gay online buddies affirm his delusion
>>42725168 Are you talking about what? Youre experience in Arab countries? Because I am posting from an Arab country filled with Muslims, and tomorrow I'm probablt going to hang out with my girlfriend, if the weather is nice, might hang out at the lake, I'll probably grab a beer at night with the lads, and might go party saturday night. Me and my muslim, and Christian friends. You know, normal people living normal lives that have no interest in being violent, or spreading Islam, or whatever the fuck you think most Muslims do in their free time. The reality of the situation is most of us are just regular people living their lives, trying to make it, no matter what fedora tipping fillipinos like yourself might think.
>>42724986 When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Deuteronomy 25:11-12
Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 2 Kings 2:23-25 NIV
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18 He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them…. He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that.. (Post too long).
I hope you realized that what youre posting is a double edged sword.
>>42725145 Sorry, still somewhat confused. Is it more a personal dislike then, as opposed to his policies? I know some Jewish friends have said that they're worried that he's trying to make himself a dictator...
>>42725611 oh fuck off bibi lover >as opposed to his policies? make himself a dictator.. It sounds exaggerated but it's On track to This situation dont get me worng He can not do what he wants... And he does not have really bad intentions but It has the longest tenure in the history of Israel And is not quite successful at what he does
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>>42725770 >as opposed to his policies? make himself a dictator.. It sounds exaggerated but it's On track to This situation dont get me worng He can not do what he wants... And he does not have really bad intentions but It has the longest tenure in the history of Israel
I presume this was I response to me. Sorry again, but I don't quite understand your post, are you saying that it's possible that Bibi could become a dictator?
Also what is opinion of the UK? Purely selfish question.
>>42726031 >Keep voting for people who want to appease murderers do not talk to me like i dont know those stuff. im in my country while you Whining above. i served in the army my friends Died in hostilities Bibi launched Operation that He did not finish The third time! do not interfere in things that you have no idea about. >praise the Bibi fucking moron!
>>42725770 You are so cringeworthy. I didn't even vote bibi, but the way you try to make sense is not convincing anyone, I believe you are merely trying to convince yourself. Sad to wake up the next day and realize you voted wrong. This is the first stage where you are denying. Don't worry it happened to me on my first elections too. Don't go cuck. Vote for a strong israel. Left agenda is ok in countries that can afford to make mistakes and rise up to learn form them. Every mistake israel makes can lead to its end. Being left is not wrong entirely, but its based on dreams and unrealistic expectations which can be a good thing at times. Israel can't afford to lose touch with the ground at ANY moment.
>>42719472 Malaysian are still dumbasses it seems, who the fuck do you think got the most benefit from isis atrocities? who did they murder? jews?? NO they were killing fellow moslems. ISIS a casus belli for Israel to balkanize whole middle east, to pit Sunni and Shiite together on an annihilating war, to make Christians hates moslems more than ever. and finally Israel will get an easy access to grab the land from nile to euphrate aka greater Israel. Israel needs a justification to annex its neighbor, and the whole world will understandably sided with Israel because its (would be) neighbor are barbaric ISIS
>>42726197 > thinking gaza war was a mistake tool. Gaza war was about showing dominance. and destroying the little arsenal they had About keeping the head down for the palestinians. It was about showing them that if you kidnap 3 israeli boys you are gonna get rekt. So you think the war was wrong do you? By your way, Gaza would have a bigger arsenal by now. Hamas wants to destroy us, do you realize that? Its not like they are building arsenal of weapons just for show. If we wouldn't have Gaza war now, we would have it later against a much bigger threat
>>42724509 >Cunning and ruthlessness. More like >Suicidal dedication and speed. Also overpowering pilots was far easier back then. Its just that typically; the human race don't enjoy divebombing structures. Islam fucks that mentality a bit.
>>42726127 >are you saying that it's possible that Bibi could become a dictator? everything is possible If you did not understand i will say it again. Netanyahu says he is right-Center while During the peace talks he is building settlements. Israel's economy plummeting low Wasting billions of shekels on Corporations and organizations. bibi fucked israel Economicly and securitly And he goes on the wave. Not everyone agrees with it not even the right hands >Also what is opinion of the UK? generally nothing the politicians opinions Relates to Your views as Equal way to the israelis and the palestiniens as one But your media inflates the Israeli intentions Make us the bad guys in the story And there are a lot of misunderstandings
my fucking sides, right in the introduction the author says
"as National Coordinator of the Jewish Survival Legion (JSL), also called Irgun "
If, dear reader, you should be distressed or frightened when reading this volume, you should not be, because the conspiracy to destroy the Jewish religion is completely undermined in your act of reading this book. The conspiracy depends on being able to hide its inner workings.
>>42726241 kill yourself >>42726462 >So you think the war was wrong do you? no i say that this fucking bibi should do it all the way >Gaza would have a bigger arsenal by now right That's why I said last operation was not successful And if the goal is to get into a conflict every four years Probably that something here does not work
>>42726774 They don't assimilate, rejects Muhammad and Jesus, their relative success in niche market areas create further rift between them and whichever country they reside on, their Talmud teaching is xenophobic, and they rub their hands together constantly.
Israel as a nation is considered an abomination to devout Muslims as Palestine was holy place in Islamic religion. Jews in the West are often in high places and promote anti-nationalist movements while Jews in Israel are nationalist as fuck. And they get billions in aid money.
>>42719386 >Why has ISIS not attempted to attack Israel? They wouldn't want to give Israel a legitimate excuse to justify attacking them.
Israel has no strategic depth which is why it has to kill people before they can attack Israel. Due to the fact that showing the world the evidence for such pre-emptive strikes would destroy Mossad's agents, they just have to deal with everyone bitching.
If Daesh attacked them, then they could overtly justify attacking. Daesh, by not being Iran's bitch like Hezbollah and Hamas, doesn't get paid in order to fuck with Israel and isn't controlled by Iran.
Oversimplifying the situation just because you hate Jews only shows that you are piece of shit who should have been wiped out. Go cry to Hezbollah since they're not going to be around much longer once Iran is taken out.
>It is a duty according to Islam that the city of Jerusalem to be liberated I've heard Yeah, and its a duty of Jews not to get killed or compromise their territorial integrity.
>>42727086 > right That's why I said last operation was not successful And if the goal is to get into a conflict every four years Probably that something here does not work Please give me a redpilled better solution. I have checked, there is none. You can give them more lands in hope for peace, and gain another Gaza. Or you could try to completely destroy them and lose all international support. Choose wisely? i think not,
>>42719386 isis is funded by israel most likely >>42719472 isis seems more like the anti mahdi army, the sufyani, read up on it. General rule, if you blow yourself up like a dumbass, God is not on your side.
>>42727348 hahahaahahaha. you are joiking right? >tfw you can't remember recent history. W-weg gaze gaza to abu mazen already... and hamas stole it away. PLO murdered, thrown from rooftops and being dragged throughout gaza rings no bell to you? really? WOW. ok, i guess we have nothing to discuss. lurk more.
>>42726702 Might have a different ID due to me using my phone, but I'm the UK guy who's been chatting with you (asking you about Bibi and Likud). What do you think of Palestine and the two state solution? Also, what do you think of the Kurds? I'm going over to fight for them soon.
>>42721260 you lying fuck. Before the state of Israel was created the Jews lived happily alongside the muslims, hell most of the times the jewish people would rather settle in muslims lands of the middle east since unlike europeone one there were no pogroms. Give me one example of the jews not being tolerated in muslims lands before the creation of israel.
>>42726774 They're God's Chosen People living in a world dominated by satan and his children; of course they're hated. They need do nothing, and they will still be hated. They can be the reason for everyone on earth being enriched, and still be hated. They can cure cancer, and still be hated.
isn't it weird that no one notices the israeli's are doing exactly what the nazis did to them.but way worse. and for a lot longer?
absolute racial purity, getos, concentration camps, mandatory military service & citizen soldiers, torture, massacred, genocide, little food, water & medicine, starting war with neighboring countries with sneak attacks, GOAT propaganda....
>>42727635 not him but i'll share my views because i got nothing better to do >kurds based, natural born alpha fighters who are fed up taking shit from arabs/turks. i think we need to help them out however we can >palestinians beta cucks, aren't ready to run their own business. it will probably happen because there's no other solution, but it will take a few decades for them to mature i'm afraid. and by maturity i mean democratically electing a government that is willing to negotiate (abbas was not elected, hamas was). also not praising baby murderers is a sign of maturity. end of the day most israelis are ready to accept 2 states, but the palicucks aren't ready
>>42727635 >What do you think of Palestine and the two state solution? Every nation has always captured and wiped out the enemies without mercy This is an historical fact that the conflict began with the Palestinians interfering the jews life Palestinians refused to the UN offer and start the war with israel Together with Arabs armies. Israel won and the IDF sat on the borders of 48 Here begins the problem On the one hand Israel fought for their lives On the other side many Palestinians were expelled Who is to blame and who is right is up to your Views. Like I said there is no nation in the world which related to its enemies with such patience and gentleness in Proportionality of war of course... >Also, what do you think of the Kurds? Honestly I'm not familiar with them And if you want to fight with them think if it's worth it I guess you are Kurdi And if you see it as a great cause it's your decision But think about it much before
>>42728129 >>42727348 Im sorry but your posts make me sad. You are generally clueless about what you say and clueless about basic facts on the planet > thinking we can just "give" gaza to abu-mazen. > doesn't know shit about kurds politics you should stop posting now. You are either an idiot or the most naive guy ive known. I hope its the latter, in that case, just stop posting and start reading until you get there.
>>42726774 It's because they're hypocrites, they favorize their kind in every field, be it politics, entertainment or business but like to call on others for doing the same. They're taught they're above others but at the same time, they sell us the story of equality for everyone. They are overrepresented and they don't play by the rules.
My grandma left palestine at the age of 13 and can confirm that 100% , the jews betrayed us after we lived in peace and treated them equally , there was 100% tolerance but they are too greedy , they used to have secret meetings to plan on betraying us, they are snake-like race , imo hitler did 1 thing wrong which is not burning them all.
>>42728271 >clueless about what you say and clueless about basic facts on the planet > thinking we can just "give" gaza to abu-mazen. > doesn't know shit about kurds politics I really have no energy for that right now just do your thing And explain to the world on basis of your facts בסדר אחי הלכתי לישון
>>42719386 Because the daesh is compromised by wahhabi extremist originating from the Arabian peninsula.
Their enemies arent non muslims as the western media makes you believe but other muslim people that practice Islam in a different way. kurds and shia are prime examples, but basically any non sunni radical muslim.
>>42723842 this. Israel needs the US to fight it's wars for them and we're already fighting ISIS. plus if they managed to cause havoc in Israel then it would cause huge amounts of support from Arabs all over the world. not sure why Muslim extremist suicide bombers are afraid of Israel and are currently doing their damnedest to destroy everything around that tiny country
the verses clearly state that offering protection and not breaking treaties are mandatory. let me know when taqiya is different than zakat, when somehow we get taxed differently on alcohol/tobacco/food, but that's alright.
>>42724988 Funnily enough, here in Australia, we had an influx of Lebanese in the early 80's. The Maronites and Christians integrated pretty well. The Muslims mostly turned out to be violent, thieving, antisocial, welfare-dependent leeching scum, and remain so to this day.
The funny thing is, although many of them were 'refugees', they stayed long enough to qualify for an Australian aged pension (something that I, a 40-something Australian-born white, will never get). Then they immediately fucked back off to Lebanon.
Then, when Israel started bombing Lebanon back in (IIRC) 2006, suddenly they remembered that they were actually Australian and demanded mass evacuations.
Look, the integrating Christian Lebanese-Australians who are 100% Aussie citizens are generally okay. But the Muslims and dual-citizens need a good purging, stat.
>>42728378 I've read a lot of Joe Sacco's books, 'Palestine' and 'Footnotes in Gaza' are extraordinary works of moral courage and clarity of vision. I cannot recommend them enough to anyone interested in the Nakba and the horrific treatment of Arabs by the Zionists.
>>42719386 >Why has ISIS not attempted to attack Israel? Since it's inception, ISIS has taken over large parts of Syria, infiltrated Iraq, attacked Iran, constantly threatened Egypt, attempted to enter Lebanon, yet not once, not even verbally attempted to attack Israel, even though it controls large border areas along the Golan heights?
>>42719386 >hating Israel nigga pls, jews ain't that bad, also tel aviv is full of qt and decent western culture, probably the only place in Middle East that looks like a western country with parties, qts, freedom and everything else.
>Until now, ISIS had no presence near the border with Israel, though other rebel groups did. Over the past few months, the rebels have pushed Syrian President Bashar Assad’s forces out of most of the area near Israel, and today they control about 90 percent of the border region –
I thought it was confirmed a long time ago that Israel was helping them destabilize the Syrian government. Israel had a deal with there where they were supplying them with weapons and giving medical care to their injured fighters.
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