Unsure was recently found out to be criminal.
haha Yeah, I have fond memories of growing up in the NS circle in Argentina. My parents moved to the US when I was little so I could grow up in a white country with freedom of speech.
There are two million Germans in Argentina.
Your greatgrandfather is a race traitor.
Thats a cool autism you have there. Are you not aware his ancestors escaped from murderous kikes to Argentina? Nationality=/=Ethnicity. An aryan born on a peninsula covered in mestizo mutts doesn't make him a mestizo.
Thats the most American type of Anglo-Celtic-Teutonic I've ever seen.
Both of my grandfathers' SS rune rings were passed down to me. My grandparents escaped from Germany at the end of the war with the help of the SS. My parents have an old bloodstained NSDAP flag in their closet. I have a photograph of my grandfather dressed in his SS uniform meeting with Adolf Hitler himself. I have pure Aryan ancestry going back to the 1700s, as verified by the SS. I have pale skin and blue eyes. How am I not white?
Don't mind the divide-et-impera Heebs and Yeeds around these threads.
Ye Saracens shall burn before they even get a sight of m'lord, Ben Garrison the Informed.
You bring shame to your ancestors. Still, can be fixed.
Glad I don't have any Turkish blood. I'm very pale with a Greek nose. My ancestors won't be rolling in their graves.
Golden Dawn's a shit. It's just shitskin brutes with Slav and Turkish ancestors making up for it by beatings pakis.
Also my eye colour is brown with some sort of green circles in it. Looks really weird but I read it's some sort of disease. At least it looks pretty in the sun.
They are truly doing gods work.
I'm not an expert on genetics but it seems that brown/ green mixes are signs of a considerable distribution of both Northern and Southern ancestry. It would make sense in your case if you have been spared the seed of Turks because all the Mediterranean regions were once populated by a much more Eurocentric people before migrations went full swing.
23andme is popular around here, though it's owned by Jews who will archive your information. Apart from that there is Ancestry.com but again, they will make you fork out for results.
If you understand migration patterns in Europe and trace your family names, it will be a pretty good indicator outside of that. And of course, lineage in physical traits, ie. blue eyes being a mutation which happened somewhere in North Ukraine and the subsequent spread through Germanic lands and the lands they conquered.
Or just get a DNA test and find out your racial make up in its entirety.
No one likes pakis. Or muslims. I'd be glad to see them burn or whatever.
I wouldn't ever support GD because they also beat up gays and I'm part of that minority.
Not the shitty shameless parade minority mind you.
>tfw no one can pronounce Basque surnames
All the Z's and X's must throw people off
If you were smart, you'd realise you're not part of any minority because sexual orientation is secondary to your culture and people and has only been given a higher status in modern times to fracture healthy populations into subcategories.
I am a national who legitimately supports Golden Dawn and have no problem with folks like you and also have a few gay friends myself. -Though they don't act like faggots and it is totally secondary to their personality.
That's a healthy attitude about it but GD does not share the same ideas on that specific issue.
Besides, they are strictly Christian and I won't support any of that Jewish religious bullshit. My ancestors did not share the same gods and in today's world they'd not believe in them because they were just avatars of natural elements and humanity mostly.
Ares, god of war > turn the other cheek like an omega
Strange. A great deal of the nationalists in my country do. It's far less about hatred for others than it is love or your own. That is what is intended anyway. But in order to do what is best for ones own people, especially in the multicultural left wing climate, the plight of many aliens must be disrupted and the movements of illegitimate minorities (feminists, lgbt etc.) absorbed back into the heart of the nation.
Bashings of the left who are not in direct physical opposition of the right aren't something many of us would insight or condone but I understand your concern.
allah bless the usa
iranians are white, am i r-right?
As long as you renounce your barbaric kebab religion.
I'm living in Washington State
Don't worry most unlabeled ones in mine were criminals.
I'm an American nuclear physicist currently working at the CERN Large Hadron Collider. See how easy that is? I even included a picture.
Been here from early to mid 1800. Ancestors fought in civil war on both sides, lots of farmers on my mothers side, lots of merchants/salesmen on my dads side.
Im a network engineer.
My blood was diluted. Jeg beklegar, my brother.
What exactly did your maternal grandfather do in the SS?
Where was he stationed?
He was actually pretty high up. I have his rank written down somewhere. He was just in the Regular SS so he didn't actually see combat. He actually spent most of the war in Munich doing security where he met my grandmother through the Party, but saw the city bombed to hell. I think he might have spent some time elsewhere but he said he mostly just cooled his heels in Munich for the entire war wishing he could actually go and help out in the east or something, but at least he had my grandma to keep him company he said.
Can you look up his rank?
What exactly did he do in Munich? Any details about what his exact function was?
Where exactly did he work? Do you remember the name of the office? Do you remember any details he might have mentioned about the location?
He and my grandmother fled Germany for Argentina because they had some documents or something they didn't want the Allies to get their hands on. It was part of his guard duties. They always talked about "our family secret" but I never got anything when they passed away so I guess it's either lost or at my parents' house.
I found his rank. He got promoted to Hauptsturmführer right at the end of the war. I don't know how high up that was.
>Can you look up his rank?
His highest rank was Hauptsturmführer, but he got that only right at the end of the war.
>What exactly did he do in Munich? Any details about what his exact function was?
He was a guard at the local party office there I think, where he met my grandmother. It was his job to guard a certain hall or something. He said he basically just "stared at Bismark a lot" is what he said, but I think Bismark was dead by then.
>Where exactly did he work? Do you remember the name of the office? Do you remember any details he might have mentioned about the location?
He said it was just a big brown building. That's all I can remember.
Not too shabby.
>He was a guard at the local party office there I think
Munich was the location of the NSDAP headquarters for the entire Reich...
>He said it was just a big brown building
...which was called the Brown House.
>It was his job to guard a certain hall or something. He said he basically just "stared at Bismark a lot" is what he said, but I think Bismark was dead by then.
I want you to think very carefully and try to remember. Did he mention what type of outfit he was a part of? Was it ceremonial or anything like that?
An honor guard? Your grandfather was in the honor guard of the Brown House. His unit was responsible for keeping the most important flags of the Third Reich.
This brings us back to what first caught my attention about your story...
>My parents have an old bloodstained NSDAP flag in their closet.
Tell us more about this flag. Tell me everything you remember about it. Can you get access to it now?
>Grandfather an Honor Guard in the Brown House
>Has a bloodstained NSDAP flag
Anon, I hope you aren't bullshitting right now. Your grandparents may have the motherfucking Blutfahne in their house. The most sacred object in National Socialism.
It's just your usual Nazi flag but it's splattered with this brown stuff which my mom told me was blood when I asked about it. I figured it was just a war relic. They keep it folded hidden at the back of their closet behind an old typewriter. I only found it because I was snooping around. On the lefthand side it has this fancy sort of braid that is red white and black, so it's different from other Nazi flags I seen.
Sure I can get to it. It's just in my parents' closet back in Argentina. I'm going down to visit them at Christmas. I can ask my mom more about it tomorrow though.
>The flag was that of the 5th SA Sturm that was covered in blood from members of the Nazi Party who had been shot by the Munich police (primarily from party member Andreas Bauriedl, who fell on top of the flag when he was shot and killed).
>The flag was thereafter treated as a sacred object by the Nazi Party and carried by SS-Sturmbannführer Jakob Grimminger at various Nazi party ceremonies. One of the most visible uses of the flag was by Adolf Hitler, who, at the Party's annual Nuremberg rallies, touched other Nazi banners with the Blutfahne, thereby "sanctifying" them.
>When not in use, the Blutfahne was kept at the headquarters of the Nazi Party in Munich (the Brown House) with an SS guard of honor.
>The Brown House was damaged in October 1943 and largely destroyed in an allied bombing raid late in World War II.
>After this last public display, the Blutfahne vanished into history. Its current whereabouts are unknown and it is not even certain whether the flag still exists.
Get a trip or something. If >>37802239 is you, and you are being 100% serious, you probably do have the Blutfahne considering it also had red white and black on it. Get pictures ASAP.
>after this last public display, the Blutfahne vanished into history. Its current whereabouts are unknown and it is not even certain whether the flag still exists.
I would be really shocked, but if anon is serious then yeah, it could be.
I just sent an email to my mom. I asked her how much she knew about the flag, and about grandpa. I asked her to send me a pic and hide the flag in a secure location just in case this thread gets the attention of you-know-who. I'll hopefully have pics in a few days or at Christmas break when I can see it again for myself. This could be a big deal.
This better be fucking legit like holy shit
If you give me a free jug every month I'll let you use my recipe and family name.
"Lehman's authentic Irish Moonshine" has a good ring to it.
A tip for picking herring: store your fish in a brine.
Many Germans went imperial on Argentina. Germans are the ones who preserved the Nazca lines, for example. It eventually became vogue for the German elite to vacation in Argentina, and eventually moved there as war progressed.
balls forgot pic
I'm closer to the Swedish side of my family, and they've held on to tradition more. My dad's side went all-american pretty fast because my German grandparents didn't live very long after they immigrated.
How about you ask family members or poke about the intraweb.
Hello my white friend, I have white ancestry going back 15,000 years as an "Anglosaxon"
why is it that 35,000 angles. saxons and jutes moved to a country of 3.5 million Britons and the people are all called anglosaxons from then on?
Fascinating about the flag. Hope to see a pic of it.
Grandfather from old English family; name goes back 1000 years or more. They were from the north and one I know of worked for Richard III. His mother's family goes back first to Ireland, then Wales/England, then France and a knight of William the Conqueror. Ironically considering the Richard III connection, we are also distant cousins of Henry VII. Both family lines have been in the US since the early 1700s and were principally Massachusetts based merchants, especially dealing in textiles, clothing, hats etc.
Grandmother was from English family, very old name, Crusader days. Her forebears were often sea captains and her father owned a chain of hardware stores and other industrial interests.
On her Dad's side, Irish farmers as far back as I can find. Very hard to research. County Cork area, same as my Dad's Irish forebears. They came over here during the potato famine.
On her Mother's side, both more English forebears, and very old German family through my maternal grandmother. Amish, in fact. There is no record of how or why her several-times-great grandfather 'went English' and moved out to the west. They've been here since the 1700s though.
That is because of Romans raping woman or bring white people to colonize the lands long time ago. I wouldn't be surprised that there is still pure white people around and refusing to breed with non-white people.
Pretty straight forward... Feels curry man....
i dont know anything about the canadian side, but apparently they were french canadian
not sure how to feel about that
Oh boy... here we go again Argentinians...
I may be a funny guy but Sweden is a funny country.
>grandfather was honor guard in the Brown House in Munich, where the Blutfahne is stored
>said to have looked at Bismarck a lot. in the room where the flags (Blutfahne too) were stored, a Bismarck bust stood.
>met Hitler personally
>has a bloody flag
Man, with a 90% chance you are in possession of the Blutfahne.
YOU GUARD THAT FLAG WITH YOUR LIFE!! GET THE FLAG AND HIDE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE KIKES HAVE THIS SITE UNDER SURVAILANCE! DON*T SPREAD YOUR INFORMATION AROUND! AND I REPEAT DO NOT TELL ANYONE ABOUT THE FLAG IN PERSON! GET THE FLAG ASP AND HIDE IT! NOT IN YOUR HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF THE KIKES FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE THEI*LL FIND A WAY TO DO HOUSE ARREST AND THEILL BRAKE THE LAW TO GET THAT FLAG!! PEOPLE HAVE DIED OVER THAT FLAG AND KIKES WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET IT!!!
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT LOSE IT!
Blutfahnen-Anon, keep /pol/ fucking updated on any happenings with the flag and guard it with all your might.
NO DONT DELIEVER!!!!
KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!!!! THE NSA WILL BE DOING SURVEILANCE AND THEY WILL TAKE THAT FLAG!
ITS BETTER TO BE HIDDEN AND BE A MYTH RATHER THEN BEING CONFIRMED TO BE SAFE AND SOUND!
ONCE THEY FIGURE OUT THAT IT'S STILL OUT THERE. THEY WILL DO EVERYTHING TO GET THAT FLAG!
KIKES DO MOTHERFUCKING SWAT CALLS BECAUSE OF STUPID VIDEOGAME JOURNALISM, AND YOU THINK THEY WONT DO SWAT CALLS TO GET THAT FLAG IN COSTIDY WHERE IT WILL DISAPEAR!!!
PLEASE!!!!!!!! DO NOT SHOW A PICTURE!!! DONT DO IT!!!!!! JUST KEEP THE FLAG FOR YOURSELF!!!! HIDE IT!!! FOR THE LOVE OF YOUR FATHER WHO KEPT IT HIDDEN AND SAFE FOR HIS WHOLE LIFE DONT FUCKING START PLAYING WITH FIRE!!!
Jesus fucking christ. This will be biggest capture the flag shit I've seen. The NSA will crack down. Thei'll get naked pictures captured from highly secure cloudservers, so don't think your free email provider will give much security once that picture will go from your mom to you. Once you post that picture here, then some NSA shitface will do a search on it, and find your real email and your mothers email, and you will be fucking in deep shit.
This has been almost 90 years of capture the flag, and your mother has the flag! The Jews are coming! HIDE IT!
Thei'll take it to Israel, and it's all over.
>died in train accident trying to save donkey
Here's the room the Blutfahne was stored in. A bust of Bismarck stood in front of them.
>mfw raised Democrat
>mfw I barely know my own ancestry, or what color my great grandparents' eyes were, because I don't believe it should matter
Don't send pictures to anyone. Fucking every camera made after 2005 has federal ID spy shit in it. Every.single.camera. The last place you want pictures of some ebin godtier nazi relic in the care of elderly people is on crazy nazi sites on the interwhore.
Listen to this faggot. Get a hold of a Argentinean lawfirm. A epic one. Have a lawyer for your lawyer kinda shit. Don't be posting any digital pictures anywhere. Like I said after 2005 it was federally mandated to put all sorts of location and ID stuff in every camera. The people involved in image discovery stuff at those alphabets have the best minds and computer systems on the planet. Don't allow any photos what so ever. Call. Badass Argentine lawfirm.
It's illegal to even own one? Because I swear we have like serious Nazi memorabilia auctions nearby and no one has ever made a peep. In fact I think some of the major collectors are Jewish, lol.
Better hide that flag or the Jews will come and try to buy it, kek.
Alright mate, calm down.
I guess curiosity got the best of me. Better safe than sorry when handling something like the Blutfahne.
>After this last public display, the Blutfahne vanished into history. Its current whereabouts are unknown and it is not even certain whether the flag still exists.
Ah yes, there it is.
Some elderly lady is sitting there with the goddamn Arc Of Covenant tier priceless artifact? You don't think anyone would come for that? You'll have every Nazi, Jew, Government, Media, and the like hunting for this thing. You guys are retarded.
Photographs are identifiable to the owner. On the sophisticated programs that Unit8200/NSA uses you can pull the camera exif/meta. Get serial numbers. Run that shit with import sheets, store sales, down to specific credit card details of the purchaser of the camera. Not even talking about phonecams. Stand alones. After 2005 all this stuff was federally mandated.
Yeah you're right, they might be worried about it becoming a "site of reverence" for stormchan and the like.
Maybe they'd put it in National Geographic then stick it in a safe somewhere.
It would be a pretty major historical discovery and it would undoubtedly be controversial but /pol/cucks are wrong about the Jews destroying it. That would never happen.
There's a good chance it would be stuffed in a safe somewhere, though, never to be seen again.
4th reich confirmed. Once again the blutfahn shall lead us to glory my brothers!
Post a damn picture don't listen to these jews, mongrels and niggers they fear our white race and the power this relic holds.
OP don't listen to any of these faggots ITT telling you what to do with that flag. Ask your grandparents and family about the history, and what order your grandfather had been given to do with the flag. It is your choice, make it count.
>OP don't listen to any of these faggots ITT
Good enough advice there.
Talk to Grandparents.
Call best Argentine law firm possible.
DONT POST PICS ANYWHERE.
These dense and oblivious fuckers have no idea the shit we can do with your photos.
Jakob Grimminger was born in 1892 in Augsburg, Germany, and at the age of 16 enlisted in the Imperial German Army. He served as a mechanic in an Air Service Regiment from 1914 to 1917, transferring to the Infantry in August 1917. He saw one year of active service in Palestine and returned to Germany at the end of the war. He was discharged on April 3, 1919.
In 1922, Grimminger joined the Nazi Party and became a storm trooper in the Sturmabteilung, serving in the city of Munich. In 1926 he was selected to join an elite group of Storm Troopers known as the Schutzstaffel (the SS) and was enlisted as an private serving in the Nazi Party's National Headquarters in Munich. Between 1926 and 1942 he was promoted within the SS many times, finally reaching the rank of colonel in 1943.
In 1946, Grimminger was put on trial by the Allies on a criminal charge of membership in the SS. He was not sent to prison, but his financial assets were seized by the Allies in 1947.
By 1948, he was living in Munich, West Germany. In the 1950s, he briefly attempted to enter Munich politics and served a term as a Munich city counsellor. However, his status as a former SS-Colonel prevented him from continuing in politics and, by 1960, he had faded into obscurity.
Jakob Grimminger died in poverty on January 28, 1969, at the age of 76.
>It's a fucking cloth, it's only value is historical
>it's a fucking cloth
you take that back you pinko commie fuck
>It's a fucking cloth, it's only value is historical
Man, it's an old rag, it's value lies in it's historical significance. It's not like the US flag or something that if it gets defiled people will be super-offended. In any case it should be in a museum so people can look at it.
Made one from OP's pic since no template. Making this one made me realize how much my parents and ancestors actually witnessed change throughout their lives.
[spoiler]There is no such thing as purity[/spoiler]
Political connections during the war, economic connections, business connections, plus lots of wealthy Germans vacationed there.
There were also lots of German navy personnel docking around there before, during, and after the war, so they were ferrying people they knew into South America through the ports.
There are massive German communities in Argentina, southern Brazil, and parts of Chile. They are not like the Germans in Germany at all. They retained their dialects far more, are more traditional, etc.
Pretty much it's like this - German immigrants who left Germany have historically been kind of "rogue". Cowboy-ish. The mess left over in modern Germany is watered down and vanquished.
"What is it that touches off a cord in the instincts of the people to whom we seek to appeal?
It can often be the most simple and primitive thing. Rather than a speech or printed
article it may just be a flag; it may be a marching column; it may be the sound of a drum;
it may be a banner or it may just be the impression of a crowd.
None of these things contain in themselves one single argument, one single piece of logic....
They are recognized as being among the things that appeal to the hidden forces of the human soul."
John H Tyndall - British racial Nationalist - 1965.
pic:Taken from a history of the Third Reich - this colour image originally appeared in the 1930's NSDAP publication
"Kampf ums Dritte Reich" - The Fuhrer Adolf Hitler holds the ' Blutfahne' in his right hand at an NSDAP ceremony to consecrate new SA banners - the Standard bearer is Jakob Grimminger.
Flags and banners have been important symbols for the Aryan peoples of Europe for countless centuries and rituals and ceremonies built around treasured standards have been part of all European nations in their military lives, their religious observations and from the late medieval periods the symbols of rebellion and from the 18th Century onwards their political struggles.
One of the first and most important symbols of the original German National Socialist movement was the Blood Flag (Blutfahne).
The history of this totem of sacrifice and NS tradition began in Munich in November 1923.
When the National Socialists staged the 'Munich Putsch' on November 9th 1923, one of the leading units in the NSDAP column was the 6th Company of Sturm Abteilung (SA) Regiment Munchen, recently awarded its own swastika flag, the 6th Company commander had appointed SA man Heinrich Trambauer to carry the unit colours on the march.
As the column reached the Feldherrnhalle, the uniformed police blocking the route raised their rifles and opened fire on the National Socialists, marching next to flag-bearer Trambauer was an SA activist called Andreas Baureidl. Baureidl was mortally wounded by the first volley of rifle fire and collapsed on top of Trambauer who had thrown himself onto the ground as soon as the police began shooting.
The flag was trapped under the body of the dying Baureidl and its was already covered in blood, Heinrich Trambauer dragged the flag free and desperate to escape arrest or worse, scrambled to his feet and carrying the flag, ran back up the street and disappeared into the narrow side streets., (cont)
>Pretty much it's like this - German immigrants who left Germany have historically been kind of "rogue". Cowboy-ish. The mess left over in modern Germany is watered down and vanquished.
I've noticed that Germans who are not born in Germany don't resort to wearing faggy clothes and scarves.
Germans in Germany truly are a mess, I guess the ones with brains/guts opted out.
Trambauer saw it as his duty to save the flag from being seized by the authorities and took shelter in the house of a friend, Herr Zeigler. Together they stripped the flag from its pole and Trambauer left the house with the folded flag hidden inside his coat, Ziegler hid the flag pole in his house.
The blood stained flag was taken from house to house and hidden by different NS men and women in Munich until 1926 when it was returned to Adolf Hitler personally by SA activist Karl Eggers.
Pic:Munich Putsch - November 1923 - the shooting begins - a work by the German NS artist Schmitt
The flag was now awarded a special status as a surviving relic of the November 9th putsch; in
addition, the fabric of the flag bore the damage of bullet holes from the shooting and was stained by the blood of at least one of the 'Munich Martyrs'. The flag was named the 'Blufahne' the Blood Flag, the damage was never repaired and never cleaned. Adolf Hitler arranged for a special flag pole to be designed for it, with a silver sleeve around the staff carrying the names of three of the Munich dead who had belonged to the 6th Company of SA Regiment Munchen.
At an NSDAP rally in the city of Weimar on July 4th 1926, the Fuhrer presented the Blood Flag to the recently formed SS and its standard-bearer was Heinrich Trambauer, now a member of the SS marked out as a survivor of the Munich Putsch and later awarded the honour of 'Alte Kampfer'.
Pic: NSDAP headquarters in 1927 - the Blood Flag has pride of place on the wall behind the Fuhrer.
From 1927 until the outbreak of the Second World War, the Blood Flag was always used in the rituals of consecrating new banners and standards for the NSDAP, SA and SS.
All newly awarded standards were touched by the flag cloth of the Blood Flag, thereby connecting the new colours with the sacrifice of the men of November 1923, the ceremony was always conducted by Adolf Hitler himself, the Blood Flag was held by the standard bearer and the Fuhrer took the cloth in his right hand to perform the ritual of consecration.
Pic:This image of the consecration of new SA standards is taken from the original German NSDAP publication
" Das Braune Heer" - the caption says -
"The Blood Flag of November 9 1923, blesses the new standards - a bond of faith that never loosens
- a vow that is never broken."
By now the Blutfahne has taken almost religious significance in its use and its status.
The original standard bearer Heinrich Trambauer had by now become increasingly unwell after suffering a fractured skull and other serious injuries in a street battle with Communists.
The honour and role of standard bearer of the Blood Flag was passed to another NSDAP veteran of the Munich SS and close comrade of Trambauer, Jakob Grimminger.
From around 1929 onwards, Jakob Grimminger acted as standard bearer until the end in May 1945.
Pic: Jakob Grimminger holding the Blood Flag as SA columns march passed the Fuhrer, the unrepaired damage to the fabric of the flag can be seen here.
Pic: Another NSDAP rally - the tears in the flag fabric are obvious.
The Blood Flag always had place of honour at rallies and ceremonies across the 1930's, and when not being carried in public was always stored on public display at the national offices of the NSDAP in Munich - 'the Brown House'.
I'm not even joking... I had to go through a lot of shit to get the visa to America because apparently i'm related to a family of 'terrorists', my dad is the uncle of the guy who is in charge of all the settlers cases in the WB, also the guys brother (my dad is his uncle too, duh) owns the Palestinian official media outlet, they are all pro-fateh so the Israelis went easy on me after they called some contacts... I think it's fucked up that they have connections in the Israeli government, but thanks to them i'm in your country now. Still waiting to end my studies so I can marry a loyal sandnigger myself.
Mystery surrounds the fate of the Blood Flag after late 1944/early 1945.
All historical sources agree that in late 1944 the 'Blutfahne' was removed from the NSDAP headquarters, the Brown House in Munich to a safer place, then according to some sources, was moved again in the early Spring of 1945.
After the collapse of the Third Reich in May 1945 this most important symbol of German National Socialism 'disappeared'.
Certainly the Allied Occupation forces were keen to track it down and the Standard-bearer Jakob Grimminger was interrogated several times by American military intelligence personnel about the location of the Blood Flag,
An element of post-1945 mythology grew up around the hiding place of this iconic NS banner; one American writer suggested that it was hidden away in South America, smuggled out by U-Boat with other meaningful treasures of the NSDAP and locked away in a bank vault in Santiago, Chile. (cont)
In the myths and rumours about the fate of Reichsleiter Martin Bormann, some journalists and fantasists claimed the flag was taken to South America by Bormann and hung on the wall of his 'secret hide-out' in the jungles of Paraguay.
(Elements of the film 'The Boys From Brazil' and too much imagination)
The writer of this blog was once told by a former Waffen-SS officer that the Blutfahne was certainly not in South America, but was safe in a secret place either in Germany or Austria, but he refused to say anything more about it. A former member of the Hitler Youth told the author that he had been told by an 'Alter Kampfer' that the Blutfahne was safe in Europe and its location was known only to a trusted few and their descendants.
Pic: Adolf Hitler consecrates new SA and SS standards with the 'Blutfahne' at a Nuremberg rally in the late 1930's
In the post-war years, a number of wealthy private collectors of Third Reich 'memorabilia' have tried unsuccessfully to track the flag down, motivated by a combination of personal interest and financial considerations. There is no doubt that if the Blood Flag was to emerge onto the collector's market it would fetch a huge price in the auction rooms, however, the Blood Flag has far more meaning to what some call "the True Believers", than a sale room price tag.
Of course there are also those elements who would seek out the Blood Flag to either spirit it away for permanent display in the museum at Yad Vashem in Israel or else seize it and publicly destroy it as a symbolic 'triumph' over National Socialism.
One day perhaps, when sanity has been restored to European politics, the Blutfahne will be taken out of hiding and will return to Munich to be displayed with honour.
No it's just WW2 collectors and history buffs are passionate about things like this.It has the cool mystery factor too like legend of those ET Atari games buried in the dessert. Would be awesome in a museum but things like this have a tendency to fall into private rich guy collections.
I'm not a real nazi or anything. I'm just /pol/ and into history stuff. (Although I'd be lying if I didn't think there was some finer points to Hitler's ideas.) lel I'm the wrong race though. Would of prolly been gassed :P
Yeah he did, even though I'm anti-Statist and definitely anti-Fascist and totally morally opposed to all of that shit, the Third Reich was pretty fucking bitching for a while (if you weren't a Jew or Slav or Commie).
Couple take aways,
I'm very surprised there aren't any interviews with Jakob Grimminger. Journals or anything akin related to this subject. He lived to see disco for fucks sake.
> trial and financial assets were seized by the Allies in 1947
Leads me to believe he knew they were coming for that flag. He had one job. To protect that flag. I bet you anything he succeeded.
It just feels like he would of.