Guy Montag was a fireman whose job it was to start fires... The system was simple. Everyone understood it. Books were for burning ... along with the houses in which they were hidden. Guy Montag enjoyed his job. He had been a fireman for ten years, and he had never questioned the pleasure of the midnight runs nor the joy of watching pages consumed by flames... never questioned anything until he met a seventeen-year-old girl who told him of a past when people were not afraid. Then he met a professor who told him of a future in which people could think... and Guy Montag suddenly realized what he had to do!
Philip K. Dick, "The Man in the High Castle":
It's America in 1962. Slavery is legal once again. The few Jews who still survive hide under assumed names. In San Francisco, the I Ching is as common as the Yellow Pages. All because some twenty years earlier the United States lost a war—and is now occupied by Nazi Germany and Japan.
>>36556592 Depends what you're into. As far as modern stuff goes John C. Wright is great if you like a lot of incredible ideas. No living scifi author comes close. If you like low-brow but great military scifi then Larry Correia is the way to go.
Those two (and pretty much everyone else in the Evil League of Evil) are worth checking out.
Anything by Neal Stephenson, I really liked his, "The Diamond Age".
Peter F. Hamilton is very good, his "Mindstar Rising" is a good place to start. For a good long read try Hamilton's "Pandora's Star and the sequel, "Judas Unchained".
Some of my other favorites: Larry Niven - Ringworld William Gibson - Mona Lisa Overdrive Frederick Pohl - Gateway Heinlein - any of his "juvenile books" (called so because the protaganist was always a young adult and meant to appeal to teenagers), like, "Red Planet" or "Tunnel in the Sky". Don't think that adults don't enjoy them too!
There are tons of great sf yarns available, if you get into the genre, I promise you years of ejoyment. A great way to get books is a used bookstore, they'll have gobs of stuff to choose from and it's a great way to stretch your reading cash :)
>>36556592 Metropolis (1927) Zardoz (1974) Wizards (1977) Twelve Monkeys (1995) TRON (1982) Planet of the Apes (1968) Logan’s Run (1976) Soylent Green (1973) The Andromeda Strain (1971) Solaris (1972) Dune (1984) The Fifth Element (1997) Blade Runner (1982) THX 1138 (1971) Videodrome (1983) 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) Akira (1988)
There's a start before you get into books, anime beyond Akira, etc.
I thought The Windup Girl was a good(and scary) read.
Based in Thailand, in a post-petroleum world full of genetically engineered diseases, crops, animals, and servants. The world is basically ruled by corporations, propped up by rampant government corruption, that are constantly competing against each other by trying to out-"generip" rival companies, artificially creating famines and plagues that affect the crops, environments, and people.
>>36563495 Cyberpunk is a dead genre. Already everything that cyberpunk tries to strive for has become obsolete; there's no "dark, gritty, high-tech" cities, just cities with high-techs, and the slums. Even by the time Human Revolution or Blade Runner are supposed to happen, it's not "edgy", nor are there "mega-corporations" controlling everything. Not even Batman Beyond hits what's going to happen.
'Science fiction' as a term is utter bullshit. Science is science and literature is literature, and everything that is good in 'science fiction' can be categorised as fantasy, satire, drama, or another of the traditional literary categories.
OH YEAH THE ALIENS DESTROY EARTH BECAUSE THEY'RE TROLLS AND THERE'S ALL THESE CHARACTERS WHO EVERYONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT REALLY BUT THEN WE GET BACK AT THEM BECAUSE IT'S A SHIP OF THE LAW AND NO ONE CAN EVADE THE LAW!!!!111!
>tfw I just can't get into books no matter how hard I try I love movies and a few video games have even impressed me with their stories but, for some reason, books just can't hold my attention. It's not like I have ADHD or anything. I pay attention exceptionally well to the point where I've never taken notes in any classes and I'm still consistently among the best grades. What do you think is the deal /pol/? Do you think I should just keep trying to read shit until it clicks or am I just not formatted right for this stuff? I hate feeling like I'm missing out on so many great stories.
>>36564392 >And anyway, it doesn't matter if you don't anyway. Nobody really cares. I mostly want to start reading for myself. Like I said, I hate feeling like I'm missing out on so many good stories and I know books have a lot to offer. Maybe I will try some LoTR stuff. apparently the 4 book set is only $20.
try reading anything p.k. dick. This guy sucks you up and showers you with ideas in literally every first 10 pages gof his books. HE doesnt use details, his characters are underwritten and are ALWAYS the same loser who is in his xth divorce and without hope and there is paranoia and great comedy. His stories range from 30 to 300 pages, but never more.
He also kinda defined all the modern SF tropes by himself.
>>36564994 [The pretention of the faggot from /lit/ does not end here, however. He could not refrain from vocally and publicly gobbling chunks of putrescent semen, but it seems to us that we may stop here.]
Excession was the first Culture novel I read, I didn't know what the hell was going on, but I was totally hooked.
I've read nearly all the Culture novels since, apart from one. I haven't read the last one, and never will. I cannot bear the thought there will be no more Culture novels published, so I will leave the last book unread.
>>36564854 >I am a neet so I get bored and just lay in bed all day and read. I like to go place in my head. I'm a NEET also, but instead of reading I just spend all day lurking image boards (but mostly just /pol/).
I try to do other things with my time, but I just can't anymore... I used to really enjoy finding new music to listen to, but now I don't care. I used to really enjoy finding new films to watch, but now I don't care. I used to really enjoy finding new anime to watch, but now I don't care, and so on, and so forth...
If I try listening to a new album or watching a new film or anime, I just end up either downloading it and never watching it, or only listening/watching a few minutes of it before turning it off.
There's probably something wrong with me, but I don't have the motivation required to do anything about it.
>>36565750 >I prefer "hard" scifi to fantasy scifi Why don't you sugest something. I honestly never hear of there being actual hard sci-fi, just that there exists such a genre. Then again I am not much into genre fiction as a whole, so such an unpopular sub-genre woudn't be known to me.
>>36565693 Every board is filled with hipster scum who suck the fun from life. /mu/ and their fucking death grips, /a/ and their k-on!, /k/ and their shitty WW2 commie rifle, /pol/ and their constant attempts to escape "mainstream" political theory, /fa/ and their gay tight jeans, /fit/ and their latest workout, they're all obsessed with alternatives to the mainstream that they miss its good points.
Most of the hard scifi I've read (and enjoyed) involves human working within the bounds of their own technology who encounter the unknowable "other", the advanced civilization beyond human comprehension. Arthur C. Clarke used this theme frequently: 2001, Childhood's End...
>>36565831 >If you want to escape the cycle, start small. Change your diet, limit sugar intake, eat veg and fruit. Force yourself to go on a walk, just once a week at first. I already eat healthily and have been doing so for some years now. I started to get fat after a lifetime of horrible eating habits, peaked at about 200lbs, then realised I had to do something about it before things really got out of hand and I started eating better.
Beyond that though, I've not had much luck. I've tried many times to get out of my rut by making an effort to leave the house every day to go on a walk or something, but so far over the course of 3.5 years after all my attempts I've never managed to keep it up for more than a week.
I'm a lost cause, a failure of a human being, and I will probably remain that way until I die.
>>36565730 Anon you need to meditate, also you are going through depression. You probably knew this, already.
You are using image boards, like I do, to fill that gap where social interaction usually exists. It can't be helped we are human after all and biological needs dictate it.
I've found that meditating has allowed me to concentrate more effectively. I used to find it hard to focus because of internet usage, due to the instant gratification effect. Try staying offline for a day, I did it for a month with books and meditation.
However it is probably not to good to go cold turkey and make a little schedule and be patient if your break it. Good luck anon, know that everything you feel is inside you. You must understand yourself.
Yeah, you're in a very tough position. To find the will power to break out of the cycle you're in takes extraordinary effort. Focus on small things, set yourself small goals and try to complete them. It will add up.
One of the things that rarely gets mention is the loss of pleasure in usual activities. I stopped watching film, listening to music, reading, everything that used to be fun became a chore. Clinicians regard this as low level depression (anhedonia), it's usually the thing that keeps people in their rut.
>>36566106 >>36566117 >>36566142 I dunno, it feels disrespectful in a way to label myself depressed when there are people who kill themselves because of depression. I could probably go on like this forever if there was nothing stopping me.
>>36566180 >I dunno, it feels disrespectful in a way to label myself depressed when there are people who kill themselves
Indeed. But, there are degrees of depression, I'm sure you will pull yourself out. If you find you're having difficulty, consider getting help. You don't have to go on medication, there are "talking therapies"that are effective. It's amazing what a sympathetic person can do to boost your self esteem.
>>36566616 See this thread >>36542840 . You are an atheist idiot who is easily amused. Also any documentary is entry-level shit meant for stoner idiots. Read a book or something. Don't worry I also remember my first week on /pol/.
Brave New World by Aldoulus Huxlely. It's almost and opposite to 1984 in the sense that Orwell was scared of reading and free thought being bad, but Huxley was scared that people would become so obsessed with materialism that they couldn't bother to read or think for themselves. Great parallels.
>>36566747 >communism You mean India, Russia and China making the world like it was during the desert empires, right, a multi-polar workd? The west won't have it's ideologies to safe them this time. On the bright side, we will go to space, since the eastern spirit doesn't give a shit if it lives in mudhuts, while it's government is using all the taxes for fance military activities.
>>36564973 Excession is fucking brilliant, everything perfectly culminates in the final chapter, Sleeper Service is a fucking beast and could wipe the chimping Affront from existence if he wanted to but instead chose to be the better man and mercifully let their admiral kill himself in the void of space, then proceeded to fucking dismantle everything he had built in the last eighty years of however long it was saying he was bored and couldn't trust himself. A true Aryan man if ever there was one.
>>36563455 It really isn't Cyberpunk, the world of the book is based after coal and petrol are almost gone so very few people have electricity and have resorted to using animals and bio-engineered food to do pretty much everything. Thailand, in the book, is one of the last hold out nations which resisted corporate control by the genetic engineering firms and they try to start a coup to oust the government. Biggest problem I had with the book was that the title character was barely in it. The actual story of the Windup Girl was barely a B-Story.
>>36564854 >Try "Flowers for Algernon", it's a very short book. I loved it on the first read and cried at the end. I've read it twice since then. My brother is mentally disabled since birth. I fucking hate that book, I loved it right up to the end and then I just fucking hated it, put thirteen year old me in a shitty mood for days. I'd recommend it for almost anyone else because it was a great book, but fuck it tore me a new one as a kid.
I'd say "The Forever War." is a pretty decent book for /pol/ users, shows in a very cool way the impact of war on a person and how coming back home can feel so alienating. Also I'd recommend "First and Last Men." because it is one of the most impressively scaled sci-fi books ever written, you get this sense of history from it you rarely get in Sci-fi outside of reading Wikipedia entries about the history of certain universes and franchises.
Maybe "Hard Boiled Wonderland and The End of the World", but that isn't as Sci-Fi as a friend of mine made it out to be, still it was interesting as a concept if nothing else.
And of course the greatest, most red-pilled book of all time, "Doom: Knee Deep in the Dead."
meds is really tough but it can help. It's just really shitty stuff and it can have a lot of side effects. But you right now are depressed, and you dont know it yet. I literally ahd thet same thing happen to me and sadly enough I only got help when it was wayyyy too late. I'm on recovery now after a strenuous 1,5 years and it's F-in hard to crawl back up from the sinkhole you are in.
But take it from everyone else: you are depressed, and if you stay that way long enough, the thoughts of suicide will come, trust me on this as well.
On the note of authors and books, I remember an audio interview that was posted here a while back and I think it was Arthur C. Clarke and he was talking about how he had a voice in his head and goes on about the eternal struggle between the concept of an Empire and Republic. Anyone got a source?
Depression isnt just being sad: It's your mind fooling you; you THINK you have all the answers and the answer to everything is : nothing, zero, death, useless.
However, that's the mental issue going on in your brain. You convinced yourself of something that isnt true for the majority of other people, even better: you probably have forgotten by now that you used to enjoy things more than you do now.
When I was nearing my peak, I wouldn't even discuss my feelings of utter apathy and loneliness with anybody. I was afraid the 'truth' might scar them into realising the same logical conclusion.
I'm probably narcissistic as well warranting this past idiotic behaviour, but it still hits close enough to your statement.
>>36567720 Depression is a literal description. It's a neurological condition where your willpower is at a low ebb. It might come about due to an existential crisis or babby's first nihilism, but it might also come about from paraplegia, or from being bullied too much, or from cancer growing in your brain, or from seeing all your friends die in 'Nam then having your wife leave you.
Films: Outland (1984) Pandorum Moon 2010 (1984, follow up to 2001: A Space Odyssey) Europa Report Apollo 18 Aliens Blade Runner Dredd The Abyss (kind of Sci-fi....) The Black Hole (1979) The Ice Pirates Spaceballs
Series: Deep Space 9 Babylon 5 Most Star Trek: TNG, TOS if you're feeling old school. VOY if you can handle it. Battlestar Galactica Firefly
Books: pic related Hellstrom's Hive anything by Orson Scott-Card Lensman series if you're into pulpy space opera Asimov if you're into old school sci-fi
>>36568482 Fuck, I knew I was forgetting something from earlier. Egan has written some crazy shit over the years. I really like Quarantine but I don't know how /pol/ approved it would be considering that the main character turns himself black midway through the book to better survive in the heat of the outback/New Hong Kong.
>>36570686 I think it was a Melanin thing, didn't want to get skin cancer or something. It has been a few years since I read it and it was a super small part of the book, basically turning black wasn't such a big deal because everyone could do it.
The really interesting part of the book was the surrender of mental autonomy the main character suffered through, he had a program in his brain which turned him into a super-cop, emotionless, self-preserving, cold and always on alert, when his wife died in an explosion the program turned itself on and he couldn't turn it off because the program was him, it knew he'd be an emotional wreck without it operating so he wouldn't turn it off until he found a way to cope, so super-cop installed a fake wife in his brain programs who'd talk to him like his real wife did and then shut itself down after a few weeks allowing the real him out but knowing that he'd be able to cope emotionally with his loss. It's a weird book but still a fascinating look at where brain modification programs could be leading us in the future.
>>36563003 "The Machine Stops" is a remarkably foresightful story, predicting shut-in internet "culture" and over-reliance on technology a hundred years before the internet! Not to mention jetliners only a few years after airplanes were even invented.
> Equlibrium. > 1984 > ALIEN & ALIENS > The Matrix > Blakes 7 > H.G. Wells The Time Machine > A Christmas Carol (hey, it's got ghosts, thats kinda sci fi) > 2001 > Farenheit 451 > TRON > THX 1138 > Rendezvous with Rama (novel) > The Empire Strikes Back > Close Encounters of The Third Kind > E.T. > Communion
I remember this one scifi movie or short series. I can only remember the end. They were in some kind of planet with space suits, probably moon or mars. One of the fuckers slips off and finds a secret passage to a abondand secret base by USA. He apparently had a secret mission, which his partner was not told. It has that kind of cold war feeling.
The movie ended when they entered some start, or black hole. And the final words they say before entering that whole, star or another dimention are: "I see god".
It has staid in my head, and haunted me. I tried to find the movie ever since but cant fucking find.
>>36563521 >>36563797 I don't think it's obsolete, it's just more niche. There are still a few pieces of cyberpunk media that is being produced here and there. Also mega-corporations don't exist as there are no currently existing corporations that act as their own sovereignty outside of the state and own their own private military while holding several monopoly's.
>>36564236 Don't worry about it. Think of it like this: back in the day before Tv and other distractions people read and had abstract thoughts and made something of themselves. You are probably a product of the newer age that likes getting things easy. So don't worry about it.
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