>if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me. >america
Honestly I have no problem following the 'do what I say' bit as long as they're giving me lawful orders. A lot of cops think it means just 'do whatEVER I say' though and give some bullshit orders that should be ignored.
Blacks should just always do what they say though, because likely they'll get convicted of whatever the cops think they did.
>>34376024 >hey, you, what the fuck are you doing? >n-nothing officer, just going to the superm- >STAY WHERE YOU ARE TERRORIST >b-but officer, I'm not a- >*smack* >SHUT UP YOU LITTLE SHIT, I'M GOING TO ARREST YOU FOR SUSPICIOUS ACTIONS AND ATTACKIING A POLICE OFFICER WITH YOUR WORDS >b-but- >HE'S TRYING TO ARGUE WITH ME SO I MUST BEAT THJE CRAP OUT OF THIS ANTICITIZEN
>>34375500 That is actually the correct way to handle any situation with a cop. If you disagree with how you were treated or what they are doing then wait until you speak with your lawyer. Don't take the law into your own hands. I see no problem with this faggot OP.
>>34376111 I'm not. I don't like the presence of police one bit, and I prefer them to do their job away from me.
But that said, if you are going to encounter one, it is best to play along. There is always time to seek recompense at a later date when you're alive. There IS no recompense when you're dead. Seems like a pretty straightforward concept.
>>34376752 >i gots mah rights! And that shit right there, that entitlement, is why you die. The one entity who can enforce 'your rights' is the one telling you to listen. Don't think your 'rights' are intrinsic, cuz they're not. They're only as valid as that man wants them to be until you are out of his presence.
>>34376926 How difficult is it for you retards to understand. Just because you don't agree with the cop doesn't give you the right to ignore him or resist arrest. Don't say a fucking word and wait to speak to your lawyer.
OR YOU KNOW CHARGE HIM AND FIGHT HIM AND THEN SAY HANDS UP DONT SHOOT RACIST PIG
Disobeying a lawful order is a crime. If it's not a lawful order, then refuse to oblige. If they force you to, you can successfully sue them. At no point do you need to lose your shit and act like an animal, or yell AM I BEING DETAINED?! over and over again. People think they need to be overtly hostile to cops now and I don't understand it. If you don't like obeying a lawful order, then change the fucking law. Rioting or yelling at a cop is not going to get it done.
I would be willing to tolerate officer shitskin's opinions if cops were personally liable for their violations of civil rights and if cops were not immune for doing acts that are not explicitly prohibited by law. I just want to emphasize that cops are, for all intents and purposes, above the law. Sure, you might ultimately be able to avoid the consequences of their improper conduct, but they rarely pay for such conduct.
If I ever go back to the USA I'm gonna get a fucking dashcam and record everything that happens around my car. I've had a lot of encounters with decent cops, but the asshole subject me to humiliating shit for no reason other than them being power hungry shitheads.
I'd also like to see lawsuits against cops have to be paid out of pocket by them, rather than from the public treasury. It's not exactly a victory for the little guy when he wins a lawsuit against the police and the other little guys end up paying for it.
>>34375500 >suggesting there's nothing inherently wrong with making a habit out of antagonizing and demeaning middle-class salaried law enforcement officers legally and socially authorized to use deadly force in extreme measures and in the same breath mock advice not to behave aggressively towards them
>douchbags soon for the grave
What they can do with the portion of the salary I provide them is to clean the streets of a few fucks like you
>>34375500 This is what white people general call "acting sensibly."
There was an article I saw the other day on the "conversations" going on between black parents and their sons, where it basically made it sound like telling your kids to not act like fucking buffoons around the cops is some kind of phenomenon that should only have taken place during the Third Reich. As if such conversations should be considered some tragic necessity of living in a police state, rather than, you know, normal parenting.
There's something like 40million arrests done in America each year, and out of those 40million around maybe 400 end with the cop killing the person they were trying to arrest. And of that 400, how many do you think were "gud boiz dat din do nuffin?" Even if all 400 were innocent infant children, we're talking a failure rate of 0.001%. You'd have to buy a Swiss watch to find something more accurate.
You're more likely to be struck by a bolt of lightning than killed by a cop. But just like how waving around a metal rod screaming "Fuck you Zeus" can increase your likelihood of being hit by lightning, screaming at the cops and fighting them when they try to arrest you is a great way to try and get shot by one.
Cops don't like dealing with assholes. They deal with true assholes maybe 1% of all encounters with the public. If you want to lower your chances of getting a ticket on a traffic stop be polite, civil, and admit you made a mistake if you know why you are being stopped.
On a different note, no matter what the evidence says on this Ferguson blunder the African American community will never accept it.
>be white >live in nice white neighborhood >family has had a few run ins with johnny law >all my brothers have been arrested more then once >learn our rights from our lawyers >start to settle down as we are all approaching 30+ >visit parental units domicile >one night police knock on the door, asking if we've seen anything suspicious >completely civil 5min conversation asking if there are any dangers in the area >policeman says there was a black man that was in the area and opened my neighbors front door, then ran away >tell him we have guns so if we see him, we'll shoot him and call the police >cop laughs and says good idea >cop leaves
damn it's good being white
>get pulled over >ran a stop sign >cop sees my USMC lic plate >talks to me for a while about Iraq and Aphgan >lets me off with a warning since I was 'cooperative' and just a cool guy
>>34375500 >if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. I agree with this >Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me.
>>34378532 >>34378608 i know this. i'm not talking about a locker. but the alternative was asking politely irrelevant favors. in most cases of a search what else are you going to ask? "how'd you come about your reasonable suspicion"?
warrants are not always needed. all a police officer needs is probable cause.
but it's a double edged sword. if he doesn't have probable cause, and you are found with something illegal after the cop says you gave probable cause, it can be thrown out in court with a halfway decent lawyer.
>>34376753 >Do you think he would've came at him if he wasn't a cop? >literally asking this when it concerns full blown niggers Take off the pire8 flag m8, you don't deserve it for being such a cuckfag
>>34378028 Has it ever occurred to you that you're less likely to be killed by a terrorist because cops exist, or is the sole function of police in your mind "to keep uz down n gib powa to da wyte man?"
>>34378028 >. . . and you are more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist?
This has got to be the shittiest facebook factoid. You should feel like shit for having posted it.
For one, we don't have a terrorist on every street corner. If you aren't in law enforcement or the military, your likelihood of ever interacting with one is practically zero, largely in part because there is a police and military.
On 9/11, 19 hijackers killed around 3,000 people in a single morning.
Meanwhile, 800,000 police kill a paltry 400 over the course of an entire year. And again, it's not like they're walking into orphanages and blowing away kids. Nearly all of these people are criminals in the process of committing a crime.
Equating police with terrorists is more than full retard. Beyond full retard. You've achieved gigadodecahedral dimensions of retardedness. I weep for your future progeny who will have to suffer the shame of having a stupid father.
>>34380059 you misread the anon but what your saying is dumb and wrong in ti self.
9/11 3000 people its been 10 years (more but ill handicape my argument for you) thats 300 a year. while >police kill a paltry 400 over the course of an entire year thats 4,000 in 10 years. you ARE more likely to be killed by a cop than by a terrorist. >also more people have been killed by cops than by soldiers killed in iraq and afghanistan since 9/11
>>34375500 >if you dont want to be treated like an animal dont act like an animal makes perfect sense. cops dont do the sentencing anyway, your crimes are decided by trial and court. if you want to go after the justice system go after the jury of your idiot peers
I was listening to one fellow that suggested that there are basically 3 types of cops: 1. good cops = outstanding record; restricts himself to the limits of the law and doesn't push the boundaries
2. authoritarian cops = i am the law types; the kind mostly advocated on /pol/; 'do everything i say and you'll come out of this in one piece'
3. chaotic cops = cops looking to start something; these cops are typically found in swat teams and largely want confrontation; will escalate any problem to the point where violence and lethal force must be the solution
of course, of these 3 types, the last one is the most disconcerting and dangerous. but all cops are good until they distinguish themselves from the rest of their lot by killing unarmed citizens
I don't have any issues with cops because I'm a non-threatening, respectable, polite, law-abiding citizen. Don't act like a punk and you won't be treated like one. Not my fault you have an entitled 'I should be able to act like a complete hemorrhoid without any repercussions' attitude.
>>34384531 >the average american commits 3 felonies a day without or knowledge that it is a criminal act. we ARE all criminals.
How is that average made? Because if you just take the number of crimes and divide by capita that's not a good way. Some people wait at a red light even if the street's empty, some people steal, rape and assault people. We're not all criminals, we're all different.
>>34375500 There's been a couple cases where the police haven't wait for the person to comply. One cop shot a kid when he turned around after hearing someone yelling at him (cop didn't identify himself first). He was holding a translucent toy rifle.
Then there was the kid with the Wii remote...
Might as well walk the streets with your arms pre-emptively raised in the air.
>>34384471 >Innocent dog >vicious dog lunging at someone Fuck this shit right here, I seen rottweilers and pitbulls attack officers and the officer shoots the dog than everyone gets pissed at the officer.
Bet if the dog chewed someones throat out they wouldn't give two shits. I'm glad those officers defended themselves because a human life is always worth more than that of a animal.
>>34375500 My parents raised me right OP Don't resist Arrest Don't chimpout Dont speak to cops without your lawyers present follow these rules and you Won't be put down like a chimp who went fuck THE POLICE
>>34376005 You see this is why people have such a negative opinion of cops; many of them will just openly abuse their power and act like it isn't even a big thing solely because they know they're going to get away with it anyway. The problem here isn't so much the individual cops as the means meant to keep them accountable. Just like in politics once you take accountability away everything just goes to shit.
Why can't cops just follow the law and act like good people? Why do they have to break the law multiple times a day? Why must they unlawfully search people and use their sirens to weave through traffic into a Tim Hortons drive through?
he's telling you that screaming at him like a faggot little girl or nigger is only going to end up with you getting arrested because you are being an asshole, making a scene and wasting our time.
I have let people with misdemeanor warrants go on their way because they were cooperative and civil. Same thing if I catch you with illegal drugs or paraphernalia, if you man up and destroy it in front of me ill just give you a warning that if I catch you with them again you're going to jail and then ill give you a pamphlet for the county rehab center.
But If you act like a little shit right off the bat, you go to jail.
>>34394669 >wahhh my job that I willingly signed up for and am recieving a paycheck in return for doing is hard >let me take my anger out by harassing harmless reasonable people just trying to go about their business like the violent viscous thug I am
>>34395084 >lick my boots like a good little goy and I won't harass you and beat you up >nevermind that I'm YOUR servant because you're taxes (which I'm stealing from you whether you like it or not, btw) pay my salary
>>34395180 confirmed for trust fund baby faggot frat boy who's mad he got arrested for stumbling around drunk in the middle of the street harassing people and slapping "bitches" even thou he scream at the officer his dad was a skevvy jew lawyer who was going to have his badge
>>34395396 Except a good number of you thugs ARE niggers, spics, and white trash. You're animals, you're thugs, you're undesirables not fit to live in a civilized society. You have to steal from people by force otherwise you would be sleeping in a gutter you worthless piece of (barely) human garbage.
This one time I had a complaint filed against me because I arrested this sheboon's gangbanging nigger boyfriend for assault, and she was out on the lawn screaming at us that we better not take her baby daddy away, she pays our salary.
This nasty cunt lives in section 8 housing, so I looked at her and told her that she didn't pay my salary, she doesn't even pay taxes. And in fact I pay for her fucking house and I'd like a refund.
Cops realize that their job is to deal with criminals, right? They understand that they're likely to encounter aggressive people during the course of duty, aren't they? I would think being abused and threatened are just parts of the job, and if you're a cop, you should have thicker skin than to let that get to you or change the way you go about your work.
>>34395396 >I keep all those undesirables from fucking up your nice white suburbs and gang banging your mom.
If I thought somebody was even dreaming of that, I'd strangle them in their sleep before they had the chance to enact it in reality. The reason I don't get robbed and raped in my bed is not because guys like you are out there protecting me, it's because I don't flaunt my wealth as it doesn't exist, hence, lessening the likelihood of serious criminals paying me any attention, and because everyone that does know me, knows that I don't accept victim status readily.
>>34375500 Daily reminder being a police officer is a job
A job where you're sent to deal with -all the shit- You cannot expect them to take extraordinary risks, risks you wouldn't even demand of a professional soldier, every time someone decides to chimp the fuck out
>>34395754 well that's good, If you present the picture of a hard target criminals will look for a softer one.
I protect your suburbs thou because while you're sleeping at 3AM, I'm in my patrol car driving around your neighborhood looking for niggers doing what niggers do, and when I leave your neighborhood I drive over to the ghetto to let the apes know I'm watching them, where I risk getting ambushed by AK47 wielding gangbangers like what happened to 2 of my fellow deputies a couple months ago.
would I love if everyone in the nice white neighborhoods had a shotgun or AR15 above their beds to defend themselves like I'm sure you do.
damn fucking right, but most of them don't, and they expect me to protect them, That is the sheriff departments job.
>>34377825 >last weekend, fetching my girl after her shift after midnight >police starts chasing me without the lights for a little while >park it outside of her apartment, they park beside me >he walks up to my window >we greet each other, I tell him he should have blinked me, I'd have pulled over, he said he didn't feel there was a need since he saw I was pulling into a parking area, we have a calm discussion as he checks my driving license, he doesn't even bother with a breath check as he's seen I am of sound mind and body >he thanks me, I thank him, and he drives off
>>34395906 the evidence is all around us. im guessing you're a cop so you'll never be able to see it from your skewed point of veiw. I deal with police all the time (because of work) and I can tell you every one ecept for one female officer I talk to is an ass who gets off on trying to tell people including me what to do
>>34396059 meanwhile in chimp country >police start chasing me >floor it better dash >he's put the lights on HE'S AFTER ME >FUCK FUCK FUCK B-BETTER PULL OVER I CAN'T ESCAPE HIM HERE >why is he still behind me HE'S GETTING THE SHOTGUN HE'S GONNA PULL A TRAYVON ON ME >he walks up to my window FUCK HE'S GONNA PLANT EVIDENCE >he knocks on my window PRETEND HE'S NOT THERE >he knocks twice more FUCK HE'S PERSISTENT >scroll down, yell YOU HAVE NO RIGHT >he tells me to calm down I HAVE RIGHTS TO DEFEND MYSELF NO YOU CANNOT SEARCH THE VEHICLE >asks for driver's license and tells me he's going to do a breath check >yell back that I have rights and he can't just stop me and search me without a warrant >he tells me he can, show him my license without handing it to him >he tries to grab it PULL IT BACK >he backs off and puts his hands on his pepper spray HE'S GONNA SPRAY ME 'Sir I'm gonna have to ask you to step outside for a while'
>>34396094 I'm a sheriff's deputy for the most crime ridden nigger, spic, and white trash tweeker infested county of my state.
The rare chance I get to deal with some normal humans beings on my shift is a breath of fresh air, and you can bet your ass I am professional and polite with them.
idk where you live, but here the hard working tax payers of this county love their sheriffs dept.
hell our FB page has over 100,000 followers.
The last time I gave a ticket to a tax payer was this woman who was doing 50mph in the fast lane on the highway. I tired to explain to her that she was creating a traffic hazard but she wanted to argue with me so she got a ticket. that was like 6 months ago.
If you think your local PD is shit, then they need a new chief who is a turd. so that's where harassing the mayor to fire him comes into play.
If you're trying to argue the law with me while I'm arresting you, I'm not a fucking lawyer or judge, and the street isn't a court room, and if I falsely arrest you. Their are more then enough jew lawyers just waiting to sue me and win you a shit ton of money/
>>34375500 And above all, don't you dare tell me that you have constitutional rights. You will let me search your person, vehicle, and home even if I don't have a warrant or reason to do so. Noncompliance is grounds for violent retaliation.
If you're one of those good cops that actually DOES speak up, the other "good cops" harass the shit out of you and shut you down. You get tossed out of the force on whatever pretense they can fake up and your life is potentially ruined by whatever criminal charges they can stick on you.
So the ACTUAL good cops either see this happening and leave the force, get harassed out of the force for opening their mouths, or become "Good cops" who shut up and silently go along with the corruption and abuse without speaking up.
That's with the Good Cops making up like 10% of the police force. The rest of them are knuckledragging morons who are only in it because they get free reign to act like thugs and beat people up. Some of them have actual psychopathic tendencies and get away with cold-blooded murders.
Our police forces should be requiring people trained heavily, to relate with the public, de-escalate situations, and deal with people reasonably. There should be psychiatric requirements above and beyond that of the average person which requires characters of high moral and ethical standing with regular monitoring by independent bodies on complaints and issues with the police force. Your average officer should be of above average intelligence. While on duty every officer should have a camera on him running at all times.
Intelligent, trained, independently monitored police forces with careful selection based on mental evaluations selecting for individuals who are not prone to unethical and immoral behaviour.
In other words, the exact opposite of what we have today: Poorly trained idiots, monitored by themselves, with mental evaluation and selection criteria picking those with lower IQ's and violent tendencies.
Our police forces are like the fucking /opposite/ of what we want. They're fucking thugs in uniforms, not police. Not anymore.
You should actually do what cops say, not only because they can shoot you, but because if you are innocent and it's all just a misunderstanding, cooperation will speed up the process of fixing it.
The problem is that cops have become increasingly militarized. And I'm not even talking about cops having military grade hardware, because I can understand to some extent cops needing increased firepower to combat gang members wielding full auto rifles and shit. But it's the mentality of it. Fucking mall cops in airports wearing the full Robocop with operator digital camo and treating you like they're not cops but an occupying force. That... is a sign of creeping fascism.
>>34396390 >Our police forces should be requiring people trained heavily, to relate with the public, de-escalate situations, and deal with people reasonably. There should be psychiatric requirements above and beyond that of the average person which requires characters of high moral and ethical standing with regular monitoring by independent bodies on complaints and issues with the police force. Your average officer should be of above average intelligence. While on duty every officer should have a camera on him running at all times.
I'd also like them to incorporate the growing number of professional mixed martial artists into the ranks. If you are disciplined enough to make it at a high level in the pro fight world, you're disciplined enough to cope with the challenge of any unarmed civilian with relative ease. 2 of you on patrol together should be able to ward off at least 10 average unarmed street thugs without reaching for a deadly weapon, and guarantee arresting at least one of them. All the parameters you mention would ensure that only the most mentally well-adjusted unarmed warriors were recruited.
It's the same type of argument gun-nabbers use; homes with guns are more likely to experience gun related violence, or homes with swimming pools are more likely to experience drownings than homes without pools.
Addendum: A couple examples of this would be when some cop found what appeared to be weed in some dude's garbage. The cops rolled in with full SWAT and were just taking everyone down looking for the marijuana. In the end it turned out the marijuana was loose leaf tea. So because some cop couldn't identify tea the whole precinct went full operator on some family's home with no process and no warning. This is not right.
Then there's this http://hotair.com/archives/2013/08/01/armed-government-agents-raid-animal-shelter-to-euthanize-baby-deer/. Nine agents are dispatched in riot fear to euthanize a babby deer.
Then there's that tragic fucking case where some baby in his crib got his whole face blown off because the cops mistakenly thought the house was being used as a drug cache and threw a flashbang into the window into his crib in the dead of night before kicking in the doors and pointing guns in everyone's faces. And no one apologized because "it was by the book."
This is the problem with cops and the attitude in the OP article. Cops have VERY little idea what they are legally allowed to do/ask, and generally ignore that little information to substitute just doing whatever they feel like.
If you comply with all the officers requests you will be tricked out of your rights and made to do things they DO NOT have the legal authority to tell you to do. Since cops are such liars the ONLY way to secure the rights you are entitled to is to refused to comply with any of their requests and know that if they DID have any ACTUAL authority to make you do what they were asking, they would be making you do it.
>MUH CANT TELL DA POPO DEY MADAFAKING CRACKAS >MUH POPO TREATIN ME LIKE A CHIMP Police is exactly like fire. It's useful and makes everybody's life better. But fire burns just like the police is armed. What would you say to someone who got badly injured because he ran by himself in a big fire? You'd think he's an idiot and deserved it for doing stupid. Well it's exactly the same with the police. Grow a brain hippies.
>>34397086 haha no, but we have about the same problems. I'm in one of the pacific NW states >>34397251 Thanks, I'd like to think I'm a pretty good deputy. I try to be as polite and professional to hard working tax payers as possible.
My Sheriff is big on community policing and protection. Police Departments might not be required to protect and serve you, but your sheriff and his deputies damn well are. And if they aren't you need to elect a new sheriff.
I respect cops but cops have gotten this idea into their heads that they are literally soldiers now, that they are literally warriors who are against everyone who is not them and every morning they are deployed out there to give everyone maximum hostility. They are playing at being soldier and this is dangerous.
>B-b-but it really is a war out there on the streets
If I'd shot and killed everyone who walked at me in an aggressive manner and everyone I'd had to defend myself from physical assault against, I'd have a kill rate higher than most battle hardened combat vets. Aggressive walking is a ridiculous standard for when it's okay to draw a gun and start firing.
>>34397604 I drive faster then traffic so that I can look for stolen cars or other emergencies. Also wouldn't you much rather have me pass you then sit on your ass for 10min doing the speed limit and freaking you out?
I also speed in my sports car off-duty on the highway sometimes. I did it before I was a cop, and I do it sometimes now. I disagree with speed limits like I said. I think they are scam, and speed doesn't kill that's bullshit. driver inattention kills. only like 3% of accidents are because the person was driving to fast, don't listen to any of the speed kills BS the state patrol tries to feed you. They just want your money.
I am so against speed limits and tickets on the highways I don't even have radar in my car. I don't give a fuck.
The only place were you definitely should not speed in residential streets so you don't kill some kid chasing his ball.
you still can't even grasp the basis of what I've been trying to tell say this entire time. I literally started off with how I don't even take people to jail who have warrants if they are cool and polite to me. do you even understand what a warrant is?
If you a kraut why the fuck do you even care what is going on in america?
not even going to respond to you anymore, you're killing my brain cells
The police can tell you to do anything. That doesn't make it legal. Just because they enforce the law doesn't mean they are above it.
Now I do believe he has a point in saying not to do rude things like call him a pig, but what counts as "aggressively walking" exactly? And the fact that he seems to have no issue with using deadly force for non deadly behaviors(name calling, arguing, threats of being sued) should show just how poorly trained and power hungry he is.
>>34396840 Trouble is... there are maybe a couple thousand people like this in the entire world.
Raise the standards too high and you won't have any police. There's about 600,000 police officers in the US.
By increasing selection criteria, the number of eligible officers goes down. So we need a way to entice intelligent, fit people of good character and moral standing into becoming police officers.
At a time when intelligent, fit people of good character and moral standing see the profession as one for deadbeat moronic and cowardly losers who want to play thug with the weight of the state at their back.
The problem is that there are not good enough checks and balances against the police. Law enforcement is left to police itself.
We need to return to the golden age of Grand Juries. Before the 20th century, any citizen (not just the state, as it is now) could bring charges against any public official and indict them in a Grand Jury for alleged crimes.
Half of the time when this "disrespect" happens, it's because the cops are "undercover" and look like random people ordering you to do shit while pointing a gun at you or they go in swat style with no warning.
How can you expect and calm and civil response when you break down doors at 2am for a drug raid at the wrong house? You want people to act civil towards you, you need to act civil first.
This. There was some college girl a while back who got surrounded by like 10 cops in regular clothing who just started mobbing her telling her to get down. Why? Because she was buying bottled water and they mistook it for beer and were going to bust her for underage drinking. Cops need to get some restraint.
>>34398010 >confirmed for a kike or good goy >go back to reddit
lol dis fucking nigga
>you still can't even grasp the basis of what I've been trying to tell say this entire time. I literally started off with how I don't even take people to jail who have warrants if they are cool and polite to me. do you even understand what a warrant is?
That's fine and dandy, but the seed to this whole strain of discussion was:
[reply to the article] >basically the cop is saying he feels justified in attacking citizens with a weapon if they speak to him in a manner he doesnt like
You're defending this type of shit ^, officer Statist.
>If you a kraut why the fuck do you even care what is going on in america?
Who says I'm German? Because what happens in America is affecting innocent citizens, whom I care about.
>not even going to respond to you anymore, you're killing my brain cells
>>34398725 Originally we did. The common law concept of citizen's arrest still exists, and the police are simply those who are given the special duty to exercise law enforcement rights that are inherent to all citizens.
However in the US statutory law started supplanting common law in the late 19th century. And now today, police are considered arms of the state, rather than deputized citizens.
Police officials are still elected, and I guess most plebs consider that to be adequate oversight.
The Liberal agenda is clear: Try to make police avoid Blacks entirely. Liberals want to give Blacks immunity from law enforcement. Of course few Liberals live around Blacks, work with Blacks, and send their kids to school with Blacks. To cure Liberalism, we should MANDATE that Liberals live near Blacks, work with Blacks, and send their kids to school with Blacks. 99% of Liberals would turn Conservative in TWO FUCKING SECONDS.
>>34398441 Let pretend I work in customer service. I have 2 customers with a problem. one customer is polite and patient with me. The other is screaming for a manager, calling me names and making a scene. Which customer am I going to want to help so i can retain her business and which customer would I prefer to leave the store?
Police interaction are kinda like that.
Lets say I roll up on you and your friends in the park underage drinking or smoking pot. Now grated yeah there are going to be cops who are assholes about it right off the bat, its going to happen.
But I'm going to tell you to get rid of your shit, go home, and don't let me catch you doing that here again.
No how are you going to respond to me, are you going to be like okay cool, thanks and dump your shit. Or are you going to start calling me ass cop butt fucker, my daddy is the governor, fuck you pig!
If you choose the second option, well why would I want to help you out now or let w/e you did slide cause it wasn't a felony or anything serious?
why shouldn't I give you a citation or take you to jail if you're going to act like a nigger?
I don't think cops act like parents punishing children at all. We are there to enforce the law and if you break it well you suffer the consequences? If you don't like the law, vote to change it.
>>34399501 people who blindly follow orders and enforce laws will be the death of this nation. So instead of telling those kids to dump their shit maybe just ignore them beacause drug laws are unjust to begin with. If cops did that cops wouldnt be hated so much.
Hello police officer, I am a citizen. And if you and your ilk don't want to be lynched by Patriot militias when shit hits the fan, you might want to rethink your whole position viz a vis respecting the natural rights of the citizenry. Because, we'll come for you.
>>34399712 Or maybe Im trying to help them out so that they aren't caught by officer stickupmyass next time?
This isn't some anarchist paradise where you can do w/e.
Ive been to those places and they are 3rd world shit holes.
Also Im clearly a fascist, look at my flag. So maybe I don't think pot laws are unjust? Or maybe you just shouldn't be smoking dope in a park where there might be kids around? Or I might not be able to ignore them because some yuppie citizen called us on them and if we ignore it then she'll lodge s complaint against the delartment
There are quite a few laws I disagree with and don't like to enforce. But sometimes for a myriad of reason I have to or lose my job or suffer some kind of disciplinaru action.
>No I'm not >calling me a Statist isn't insulting just fyi
"Nuh uh", really faggot?
It's not supposed to be insulting, I'm just adding the appropriate label to the correct specimen of primordial ooze. Nice to have when the day of the rope comes.
>I am flying the Nazi flag?
You were unable to not reply, so I can understand that you are unable to verify the type of flag you have selected. What relevance this has to you tounguing the anus of the jack-booted thugs known as the burger bolice, I won't even attempt to decipher.
>don't you have some kinda angsty music festival or an antifa rally to attend?
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