I saw this linked to Kikebook today. Effectively it's a woman talking about the flaws of hookup culture, proposing that we go back to traditional dating, and that women withhold sex for actual relationships.
Now, I'll look past the "All most guys care about is sex" tone of the piece that comes through in a few places, because I think that, generally speaking, the morals advocated by this author are generally positive.
>>33561111 Fuck this cunt. >oh noes, they're not making women a priority >oh noes, its breaking a woman's heart >oh noes, fuck 'em if they can't figure out why we don't respond (because, you know, that worked SO FUCKING WELL last time) This fucking cunt is so goddamn self-centered and myopic (but I repeat myself, as it's a cunt) that she sees absolutely no fault in women causing this, only that it hurts her feels so she needs to soahdoshgoauoirvhouarhngohnadhnga
>>33561111 Its all a fucking ruse, OP. The same few girls are fucking anyone who will fuck them, the same for a few guys that are mistaken as alpha. These two groups fuck each other the most. This leaves two groups: The group that fucks some alphas/sluts and the group that trends towards monogamy.
The ratios of each slut, somewhat promiscuous and not very promiscuous changes from generation to generation, but its mostly mansluts fucking sluts and the occasional outsider who interacts with the slut circle.
You're only seeing the slut circle because that is what your culture is focusing on. Most people aren't in the slut circle, though many interact with it.
I started dating this girl about a month or so ago. Natural blonde hair, blue eyes, huge rack, and she told me she doesn't like the Jews or niggers. My inner /pol/ would punch myself in the nuts repeatedly if I screw this up. Wish me luck /pol/
>>33562963 Divorce rates are so high solely because that each partner you and she have had and each former marriage correlates to a higher divorce rate. There's still a 80-90% marriage success rate if both partners have only had 0-1 prior relationships.
>>33561111 >She Majored in Psychology and Minored in English at the University of British Columbia Which means she is past the days of fucking every Tom, Dick and Harry. She wants to have her cake and eat it.
Essentially - women grow up and realize it is bollocks.
>tfw bpd >tfw the only two women to be interested in me called it quits as soon as I had a single breakdown >have emotionally supported them multiple times though mutual friend's deaths and other tragic things
>>33564477 A lot of men are dropping out of this marriage thing. Why buy the cow when I can get the milk for free? Besides, LTRs today are nothing special and are basically prostitution, the man buys and takes care of the woman for sex. Much cheaper just to hire a whore.
>>33561379 Fuck you cunt. Do you not realize that actually following what she is saying would result in a net gain in pussy? If we bring it back to 1950s style, virtually every man will get a wife again. Wife = sex guaranteed.
The issue is that women in this monogamous relationship will not be willing to fulfill our desires which has always been the bugaboo.
Therefore we can make a 1950s style family but with supplementary sex robots that also cook and clean. They can satisfy our carnal desires and our wives are the ones we actually love and love us back. We may even have sex with our wives once a month out of devotion.
Technology will allow us to live perfect Godly lives without denying our natures.
You guys all just want to keep the slut train moving because you've been brainwashed to see it as freedom for women. Or maybe you are those alphas fucking 8 women, but we know its time to bring back those halcyon days of one woman per man, like God intended.
>Now that I'm over 30, I'm getting tired of being a slut riding the cock carousel. >Time for a shift in relationship culture that benefits me. >Now I can find the well off, socially conservative partner whose made responsible relationship decisions I've always wanted since last year.
You're the self-centered twat in this situation. She sees no fault in women causing this? Are you fucking retarded? THE ENTIRE ARTICLE IS POINTING OUT THAT WOMEN ARE A HUGE PART OF THIS.
But you're just so fucked in the head that you can't even think straight about ANY issues regarding gender. You're literally so brainwashed by Jews that the second women are mentioned you lose your capacity for reason and logic.
>>33565242 No, she felt too intimidated to even get that far. She is a classically trained second generation Asian musician who went to a private school so I assumed she would appreciate intellect and I went hard into philosophy and politics.
>>33561111 >Is it happening, /pol/, are women seeing reality? This has always been the way it REALLY works.
Women have really hamstrung themselves by accepting all this "modern" degeneracy. If they truly ARE figuring this out, it will actually be a relief to the men, as well...it creates known boundaries and specifies acceptable courting rituals, codifying them, taking out all the guesswork.
Knowing woman and their opinions and feelings isn't special, the only reasons you're acting interested/wanting to know is because of the sexual attraction to her, not her actual feelings and opinions.
Don't know why people like having opinions and emotions on things makes them special or unique. Everyone got them little snowflake, it all comes down to attraction based interest unless you're really beta and will just take anything.
Don't you realize it? Without western civilisation being the world's cash cow humanity will collapse and the planet will finally be at peace and out of our ruined cities nature will rise again to free the planet from concrete, streets and pollution.
>>33565085 Better yet, she has reams of people believing she's "finally seen the light" and that this shit will somehow bring back traditional marriage, and if you oppose it you're promoting whore culture. Goddamn idiots. Woman snaps her fingers, says one single line they want to hear and they're willing to forget 40 years of whoredom on the hopes that a washed-up cunt will not only return traditional dating, but also clean up the clusterfuck of narcissistic horseshit that passes for modern reality.
I read that article a couple of days ago and while I agree that the casual hookup culture isn't doing us any favors, I still disliked the article because that bitch places all the blame and bad intentions squarely on men. She insists that women still want real relationships but they just go along with the bad things men want because they think it's better to be alone.
She's not someone to listen to because she's still blind to the fact that women are the ones who have changed tremendously and caused a great deal of this dysfunction.
>>33565663 On the bright side the beta losers are still happier than the whores for the few years of the marriage she's willing to fake it. Until the divorce and child support assuming she can still breed. But then she'll still be even less happy.
Ultimately you can take comfort that the women largely have a bed they made for themselves where they are most likely never going to be satisfied or content until their eventual death. Small comfort but it's something.
>>33565728 Of course I did not mean with the IQ. But after we control reproduction you will start to see smarter people. We'll be buying eggs from the smartest women and raiding the children in optimized conditions which make the smartest children possible.
Unlike women who are still arguing that they should be able to drink and smoke while pregnant...
>>33565137 She's not actually blaming women though, she's saying that women still want traditional long term relationships but none of the bad wicked men do, so they have sex with them anyway in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, the next man will change his ways if she loves him enough.
She makes women into helpless creatures with no agency whose good and pure desires are constantly dashed by the bad men who just want to pump and dump. It's feminist bullshit that denies female responsibility.
>>33565729 Well if feminist women bothered to take a real introspective look into themselves they'd have a serious crisis. The hypocrisy of the mindset is well documented here and other places so there's no need to really go on about it. But the biggest thing that changed in the last 50 years appears to have been women.
They got just about everything they asked for and they're unhappy. And now nobody has an answer or a solution that women could accept. Because it'd require sacrifice and compromise to return to what women should be. Men are still doing what they should. It's women who demanded to be in the world of men and now find it wasn't a great idea.
>>33565946 >she's saying that women still want traditional long term relationships but none of the bad wicked men do, so they have sex with them anyway in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, the next man will change his ways if she loves him enough.
I'm not saying these women should be with my hopeless ass, I am not a good catch. But it never fails to amaze me how women can lock in on a certain kind of guy and believe that is all men. It's the only kind of guy that pump and dumped them at the club, right? So other guys don't exist.
>>33561111 Would never happen women don't trust each other enough to pull through a prisoners dilemma though granted not many men can do so either. Its just that they are literally their own worst enemy.
>It’s rare for a woman of our generation to meet a man who treats her like a priority instead of an option. Some of the loneliest, most unhappy people I know, have a ton of options and have no problem finding someone to spend the night with.
>>33566142 Don't feel bad anon. The thing is these women were never good in the first place. Only in hookup culture is there no responsibility or acknowledgment of emotions beyond simple lust. Those women wouldn't know how to act in a relationship with you anymore than you'd know.
A real relationship between a man and a woman is about compromise and mutual submission. In different ways that play to the strengths of both genders. The modern woman is a hybrid freakish version of femininity and masculine overtones. They're basically a female impression of what they think a man is. And the pursuit part of our male brain is simply unable to ignore they're female. Males are physically oriented so that's why there's no issue getting it up. But a regular guy isn't going to be attracted to a woman when she acts like a man.
>>33565953 Their problem is that they saw the world of men through the very narrow lens of the most wealthy, successful, and powerful men, completely failing to realize that those men constitute a tiny fraction of the male population while the rest of us have to actually deal with tremendous responsibility, hard work, and come to terms with the fact that the world is generally indifferent to us.
Girls and women grown up receiving a level of coddling and attentiveness that we can't even imagine, and when they finally do encounter real world situations where nobody gives a fuck about their feelings or how busy they are or how many demands they have to deal with, they can't handle it and instead of understanding that this is and always has been the daily reality for 95% of men, they demand that more things be changed to suit them.
>>33561111 >Implying this hookup culture shit was created by men and not fucking women so they could have dry emotionless sex when their pussies itch and not have to deal with a man. No really, this is their excuse to fuck hot guys they wanna fuck and know they cant have and get theirs.
Believe it not but a majority of men want a relationship with a decent woman, not some slut, so sluts where getting left in the dark and said "HOOK UP CULTURE! FUCK MARRIAGE! FUCK RELATIONSHIPS! YOU SHOULD BE A BITTER SLUT LIKE ME!
Men can fuck many women and be detached, women fuck many men and lost their ability to attach and form meaningful relationships. That's just how it is and why people say "once a slut always a slut"
>>33566209 I can second this. A lot of my bro's are swole aesthetic as fuck guys. They act so confident in public, always ready to have fun and party, but one of one all those are so lonely and hurt so much. They hate that girls are the way they are, and it makes them dislike girls seeing how shallow and easy they are.
Every guy wants a nice, honest, loyal girl. Girls only want social status, then money as they get older.
>>33561111 >proposing that we go back to traditional dating Too late hoez. >and that women withhold sex for actual relationships. I ain't finna work for what you gave ya last nigga for free, that ain't how it work, sweety
>>33563742 >Essentially - women grow up and realize it is bollocks.
Fucking this. So much this.
Literally nothing infuriates me me than stupid whores that pass their cunts around like a collection plate while in their prime, but then become moralizing bitches who want a "traditional relationship" after they've had their fun. i see this bullshit all the time. Most of these sluts already have it planned out. They already have it predetermined that they're going to engage in promiscuity right up until their youth starts to fad. At least when they're with Mr. beta, they can sit on the back porch of their 5 bedroom suburban home and fantasize about those glorious nights of YOUTHFUL PASSION with various Chads, Dominics, and Tyrones. "OMG, I remember when I was so YOUNG WILD AND FREE!" thinks the aging 30-something housewife and she sips on White Zinfandel and wonders if she has time to fuck the landscaper while her balding, remained-a-virgin-until-28 husband is away at the office.
Seriously, American women are one of the primary reasons why I laugh whenever someone decides to go full Supreme Gentleman.
Say what you want about them but they always had the most pro male setup in Africa. Women did literally all the work and African men just sat around fucking and fighting until they died of old age or got eaten by a lion.
>>33566639 >Women did literally all the work and African men just sat around fucking and fighting until they died of old age or got eaten by a lion. Native Americans had the same shit, before it got ruined by Whitey.
>>33566409 There is nothing for someone living a life style of hedonism in the end. Just endless pursuing of pleasure and an eventual regretful and very long fading as they wait to die of old age. Once you're 30 or 40 you have the next 40 years to live alone with your cats and realize those 10 years of youth could have been spent better.
>>33566639 >stormfag here niggers also are blatant in a good way, they don't act all disingenuous and fake, they will blatantly call someone out also don't forget that whitey had that very same set up until only very recently
>>33566639 >Women did literally all the work and African men just sat around fucking and fighting until they died of old age or got eaten by a lion.
>mfw I lived in Africa for a while and found out this is actually true
It's amazing really. I remember living in this village and every time I came back to the hut I was living in, this old lady would immediately cook me a meal and her granddaughter would serve it to me. My laundry would be drying on the line, my hut would be cleaned, and they would bring me water to bathe with. I honestly didn't know what the fuck to do with my spare time because the women were doing literally all the housework. Didn't take long to figure out why you always see the men lounging around in groups all afternoon.
>>33566639 >>33566685 Because both their primitive societies operated by the force of arms and women were always weaker than men. A shitty existence for all but the strong seems like a horrible model for progress.
The African jungle is a much different environment than north America. Everyone is required to work to survive here whereas in Africa the men could laze about all day singing and dancing when they wanted to.
>>33566702 >31 >about to turn 32 >still party with 20-somethings >plan to keep doing it >fuck off
And here's some added insult to injury - I only care about sex, don't give a flying fuck about the changing demographics, and inherited enough cash so that I don't give a shit about any "manchild" label.
This is the part where you obsessively try to tell me that you know so much about my life and true level of happiness, because everyone here apparently possesses a crystal ball...
>>33566639 Women did literally all the work and African men just sat around fucking and fighting until they died of old age or got eaten by a lion.
Did you ever hear that story (I don't know exactly how it goes) about the guy and his wife traveling down the road? She is breaking her back under all the shit she is carrying and he is carrying some light things and a rifle? Then they decide to make it fair and carry an equal amount of shit. They are both weighed down.
A bunch of Indians show up and the guy can't ready his rifle in time, he's carrying so much shit. The Indians kill him and rape and then kill her.
There's a reason why Lionesses do all the hunting and nigger women do all the house work.
>>33566837 >>33566837 Well what do we have now? Is this progress? At least Native Americans and Africans had warrior traditions. This society is jewdified (not even shlomo is free of this evil: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/05/22/orthodox-rabbis-charged-in-religious-divorce-plot/) and feminized to the core.
>>33566879 Well so long as you're fine with it what do I care? I can't imagine the 20 year olds are going to always be cool having the guy who looks like he could be their dad at their party though. Or they'll think you're a cop or...eh. whatever.
It's your life and all. Maybe you'll be lucky and escape any feelings of regret for never really doing anything different than when you were 20 or whatever.
I'd probably agree producing children would be a bad idea for you. Please never breed. You'd probably be a shitty parent.
Because I'm really more a hedonist. I don't give a fuck about being the center of attention, I just care about getting laid and increasing my bank account (Yeah, I already know "U live liek a nigger!" Don't give a shit what /pol/ thinks) Why am I even posting this? Because it's funny how this board gets collectively asspained whenever someone *gasp* enjoys pursuing pleasure rather than fascist idiocy. but yeah, whatever, have fun working towards a future that will never become a reality. Until then, just resort to your traditional tactics of accusing anyone who rejects your bullshit of being a jew. (for the record, I am not, but believe otherwise if you wish)
>>33567036 >I can't imagine the 20 year olds are going to always be cool having the guy who looks like he could be their dad at their party though.
Most of them think I'm 25. It's not how old you are, it's how old you look. I never smoked and avoid hard drugs, so I didn't age prematurely like so many other people I know. Besides, 20-somethings (and even teenagers these days) have no qualms about hanging around with people in their thirties if you don't act like a stuffy prick. The popularity of programs like Workaholics, It's Always Sunny, Tosh.0, and Jersey Shore have shown the younger crowd that 30 somethings and 20 somethings are virtually the same anymore.
And you're right, I'd be a shitty parents. I hate most kids and would definitely never want any of my own.
>>33567128 Well I'm not who you replied to. But I'm not a fascist and I'd never dream of stopping you from doing as you please. You should be free and I'd die for you to have the right to be a disgusting hedonist.
But I do know your life is probably pretty empty. Maybe I'm wrong, but I bet you've got those moments alone where there's doubt. It's human nature to want more, to be more and really your approach to life is about on the same complexity level as an animal. Just remember that 40 is middle age. Are you going to be partying then? 50? 60? Is being the butt of a joke at parties going to be worthwhile to you?
Because much of /pol/ consists of wannabe mind readers who like to insist that anyone who doesn't march in lockstep with their reactionary bullshit is "unsatisfied" or "truly unhappy." Actually, being a fucking feeb who's only pleasure in life was reading the Turner Diaries or having missionary sex with his wife (and only sexual partner) for the purpose of procreation would make me extremely bitter and unfulfilled. Hey, if you like that sort of thing, that's cool by me. I'm just saying that not all of us what that boring lifestyle.
>>33567128 wow you are so "well adjusted" and cool, i bet you had your hat on sideways and had ray bands on while you typed it out you are posting it because you think that by describing yourself as different from the general hive is somehow proofed, but in reality you are just like everyone else in the world. no real ambition, nothing at all. laugh at it in type, it is a nice shield, but in reality you emptiness is blatant in the fact that you have to basically tripfag about how special you are >attention whoring on /pol/ yet claiming to be better than pol
because women think showing emotion is weak. My wife crys over everything all the fucking times. I've only ever broke down when I found out my mom got cancer, even then you've got to be proportional. Being a man isn't being stoic, it's managing and dealing with your emotions effectively.
>>33567303 >Just remember that 40 is middle age. Are you going to be partying then? 50? 60? Is being the butt of a joke at parties going to be worthwhile to you?
Oh, things will no doubt change as time goes by, that's inevitable. But that's why I plan ahead, so that my lifestyle can continue for as long as possible. Money is key if you want hedonistic pleasures, and that's honestly what I pursue more so than anything. You probably think I'm some old looking man that does obnoxious shit and snorts every drug known to man. The truth is, I'm far more "conservative" in behavior than most of my friends. My main goals are A) staying comfortable with money, and B) making sure that I can fuck as much prime pussy as possible. I realize that "poppin molly" or excessive drinking can ruin that, which is why I avoid that shit. I'm basically the guy who goes to a party to drink a Budweiser can that's full of water, only so that i can give off the illusion of being like everyone else, but what I'm really doing is remaining sober so that I can scope my surroundings and see what I can do for my benefit.
>>33567354 You seem awfully defensive about your life style choices. Are you sure you're not a little insecure? Of course you know it's not just pol that would frown on knowing of your past.
How about a cute girl with whom you could share your insecurities and doubts about the world? Everyone has them. Being with you when you're sick or tired or just want a break? Yes, boring by your own standards but you need down time too like everyone else.
Does it bother you what she'd think if she knew all the bear pong shots you nailed, trashy girls you've had sex with and parties you went too? You'll never be able to really connect with that kind of person because of your different lives.
>>33567354 >using boring in an attempt to be intellectual the word boring is the signature of a pleb, it is the signature of a nihilist. its funny that in fact reddit faggots come here and use the word reactionary and then go about reacting to everything said here on a topical basis and then of course lobby for the societal status quo.
>>33567497 Women pay just as much attention to things as we do. If you plan on settling down by 40 be prepared to answer a lot of questions about your past. And you'll find you probably won't run into too many good women you can trust.
Ironically a your money you're so proud of may be a serious liability. Can you trust your plan to settle won't net you a gold digger who could steal all your money? What would your plan be to avoid that?
>>33567504 That's funny, especially since /pol/ is obsessed with "degeneracy" to the point that many of the regulars could accurately be described as ultra-puritanical.
And bro, you pretty much lose the argument when you feel the need to resort to tired tactics. Tossing around "insecure" is like tipping a fedora when someone here criticizes religion, i.e. it essentially proves you have no argument.
>>33561538 BETA? what? because he is good looking, intelligent and successful and not groveling simply to stick his dick in a wet hole in order to prove to a bunch of faggots he isn't beta?
maybe you are so insecure that you need to count sex partners to prove you have worth, but some guys are really just decent, good people and they don't play your subliminally homo-erotic "alpha" game. you faggot.
They aren't helping themselves find a loyal woman by fucking sluts. They're just as bad as women who fuck bad boys and wonder where all the men are. If men want to find a loyal partner, they need to work for it. Sitting around and banging sluts, hoping for a good girl to fall out of the sky is woman behavior.
>>33567875 Continue investing my inheritance into funds that will hopefully make me enough so that I can continue a life of parties at my home, travel, and meeting new people. Is it a guarantee? No. Is it possible? Oh yeah, and that no doubt irks the hell out of people here who want every White person to indulge in 1950s bullshit.
>>33567997 Doesn't bother me actually. I just find it funny you don't really have a plan. The only person who's made it work is Hugh Hefner and how pathetic is it to just rely on your money to make people like you? You even realize that the older you get the more your social circle is going to need you to be richer to tolerate putting up with you. Because yes, they're that shallow.
>women lowered the price of sex (hookup culture) >women now realize they lowered the price of sex ? >yo girls lets up the price of sex so we get more in return like we used to (family, stable relationships, marriage, love) >men aren't interested in those with high price goods when there's millions of cheaper goods being sold, don't want to be ripped off (i.e. waiting till marriage being faithful being caring etc when you could just fuck any one of 50 sluts around you) >marriage continues to break down >both men and women continue to be dissatisfied >single mothers become/approaching the norm >all while the kikes laugh
>>33568112 I don't care if women only fuck me because I have money. I'm not fucking them for any reason other than their looks. I don't have any desire to feel someone's "soul" (yeah, tip your collective fedoras, /pol/) or start a relationship with anyone. I like getting my rocks off and nothing more. And yeah, I already know that money is key to the lifestyle that I want to continue at 40 and beyond, which is why I diligently work towards that goal. Already got a decent head start, so it's pretty much all up to me now. Like I said, maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't. One thing is for certain, I have no desire for the Norman Rockwell crap that most of you crave.
>complaing about the whole "maybe at some point" type of message
Huh. I was told by the internet that you shouldn't do that either, as suggesting an actual plan forces the woman to either agree or diagree or ignore and reduces the ability of her to dick around with you, and shows dominance and assertiveness on your part.
>>33568261 Well good luck then. I'm sure there's no chance you're slightly unstable or hiding massive insecurities at all. Nor are you more likely to burn out or fall apart and be left with nothing. Alone and friendless without any money.
Nothing at all wrong with the life you advocate. Those who advance living quietly and modestly are the crazy ones.
>>33568434 Yes, and I'm sure that most of /pol/ isn't just bitter at the prospect of never being able to have any real excitement out of fear of being labeled "degenerate." By all means, have fun memorizing reactionary literature while searching for a virginal bride to settle down and have Aryan children with. Godspeed and 14/88.
>>33568636 I've seen people older than me at college parties bro. Hell, I've been to parties where we had guests as young as 17 partying with people as old as 40. Go to that EDM shit sometime. Nobody there cares about how old you are unless you look decrepit.
>>33561111 ITT: A bunch of little bitch seals trying to get at the harem
Any of you has the ability to be an alpha male. An alpha male is anyone who is 'in control' of their reality and knows how to communicate. I say in control because it's really all a sham. Nobody has it all figured out - but if you can pretend like you do long enough, it becomes so. Start talking positively in your thoughts - if you are constantly putting yourself down, then it shall be.
In reality, the average number of partners for humans in their lifetime are as follows:
Males 30-44 report an average of 6-8 female sexual partners in their lifetime (Mosher, Chandra, & Jones, 2005). Females 30-44 report an average of 4 male sexual partners in their lifetime (Mosher, Chandra, & Jones, 2005). (The real hook-up culture is 60+)
The hook-up culture enables you to meet many different women, especially if you are an alpha male, trial run your compatibility and choose to pursue a relationship or choose to meet someone new. If you don't have compatibility with someone sexually, it's going to be hard to force it. Of course there are some couples who can learn to be compatible with each other over time, and perhaps that is the way that it should be of just one sexual partner; at the same time I see it as a valuable design for natural selection. The alpha males write history, every pregnancy at a time.
The way I see it, men become much more valuable to women as they age. Men like wine, women like milk. If the man and women see that they are right for each other after hooking up and try dating, they should go for it.
I believe the article is a social stigma pushed by some (not all) women as a means to guarantee their monopoly. The more supply of women willing to sleep with men, the less power they have as a group. It is a power play.
>>33563515 >Divorce rates are so high solely because that each partner you and she have had and each former marriage correlates to a higher divorce rate. There's still a 80-90% marriage success rate if both partners have only had 0-1 prior relationships. >you and she
75% of divorce is initiated by women. So, even if all 25% of those cases where the men initiated were attributable to this: it is really a false equivalency.
>>33561111 >promoting monogamous relationships and saying the hook up culture is stupid and the people are going nowhere
All well and good. I have no problem with that
>Proposing women withhold sex for actual relationships
Yeah I see how it ties in but she seems to be proposing this just to get control back to the women that traditional relationships hold. The dance of courting a woman to convince her to sleep with you gives a woman 100% control in a relationship, sex and the whole process. So I'm torn on this since in dating men risk everything and have everything to lose where women have nothing to lose and have absolute power.
They're not bringing it back until the feminist damage to family law is completely undone so that marriage isn't a complete liability, and women start behaving like women again. They have to turn the clock back quite a few decades.
Until then, they're just going to get fucked and chucked until they retire into single motherhood, cats and TV dinners.
A woman who has sex with a lot of men but can't get any commitment is a slut, usually a target for derision. A man who gives away his commitment but gets no sex is a beta loser, the flip side of the coin.
If you want a solid relationship, those things need to be in place. There's a lot of other shit that goes into a relationship, but you cannot have a lasting relationship without those things.
>>33569850 She's in her late 20's, maybe early 30s. She's about to hit the wall, hard.
>>33570135 You seem to have a dog in this fight, anon. Could it be that you're this Erica Gordon? Is she a friend of yours?
I'm just saying don't get your hopes up. Encourage this type of behavior, sure. But it's common for women approaching the end of their most desirable/fertile period to suddenly see the appeal of monogamy.
It's not about getting laid in a few months. It's about getting laid consistently and not having to search for another woman. Some people don't want to play the hookup game. Some of us want a nice girlfriend/wife and to just be done with it all.
>>33568757 >Go to that EDM shit sometime. Nobody there cares about how old you are unless you look decrepit.
I've seen outright elders show up and get lauded for it, actually. The youngsters are glad to see some oldfags with a bit of pep. Now, granted, they're probably not getting laid, but some old fart shows up at E-Zoo, he's getting some positive attention/props.
>>33569569 A rollback to traditional relationships where sex is reserved for marriages or at least serious, long term relationships also has to include a rollback of feminism and the power that women have in divorce court.
In the absence of traditional societal constructs that restrict the power of women, women naturally have all the power in the mating game because they're the ones with the wombs and they're the ones who will always be pursued. They're the gatekeepers, they get to decide who sleeps with them and who doesn't. Monogamous marriage and a society that shames promiscuity, shames having children outside marriage, and doesn't let the state subsidize a divorcee and/or her children takes their massive power advantage away and forces them to make a choice and stick with it.
>>33571407 >In the absence of traditional societal constructs that restrict the power of women, women naturally have all the power in the mating game because they're the ones with the wombs and they're the ones who will always be pursued.
>>33571535 >>33571535 I wonder if she'd agree to the restoration to the husband's traditional conjugal rights. He is entitled to the fruits of her body, just as she is entitled to fruits of his labor. These conjugal rights are recognized by nearly every major religion. In fact, the Catholics have a specific term for this in relation to wedding vows, but I can't remember it off the top of my head. In places where Feminism hasn't gained traction, Catholics still adhere to these rules (like the Maronite Catholics in Lebanon, where a law against 'marital rape' failed to pass).
I can't really believe that hook-up culture could even really last if it existed at all. Women do not respond to sex the way women do. When woman orgasm they release a lot more oxytosin then men do. That chemical promotes bonding which makes more emotionally painful for them to get the dick then the door. The same thing does not happen to men. That isn't to say that men won't care but casual fucking doesn't cause the same response.
This culture, whatever you want to call it, benefits guys and only guys. I'm surprised fem-bots didn't jump on this shit sooner since they're all about inequality disguised as equality
>scoff at women who want a lasting, loyal, meaningful relationship and don't want to devalue themselves via casual sex >woo emotionally unstable sluts who put out after a few drinks and some PUA lines, dump them soon after >go on /pol/ every day >"Why can't I just find a non-degenerate woman?" >describe ideal woman that sounds exactly like the one they scoff at
>>33574483 He's the definitive beta nice guy, learn from his mistakes. Women have never been attracted to these types, it's nothing new. Women can't help being attracted to masculine men who are aggressive and take what they want. They don't want whiny cunts.
Whether women are attracted to you does not determine your status in the world. How brainwashed can you be.
Furthermore, irrespective of whether he gets laid or not, his attitude towards women is the ideal that all men should aspire to. His statement of independence shows that that guy is, without a doubt, a man. Men who prostrate themselves before women like children seeking mommy's approval are pathetic.
Yeah, golly. I don't sit here with quiet anticipation waiting for responses. I check /pol/ in between watching hulu, bub. But hey, respond again, I'll be sure to get back to you in an hour or so if I don't fall asleep.
>>33561111 If anyone reading this thread gets to my post, including OP:
Don't stress out over this article. It's a small, two-bit blogging site that pays writers such as this to churn out shit to fill pages. A friend of mine in college got me to write a couple tech and fitness articles for them but they paid shit so I got out.
>>33561111 probably been said. But a lot of the women that sleep around often and don't 'settle down' will find themselves in their late 20's, looking like shit, because tanning, drinking, drugs take their tole. They will also have lost their metabolism and start putting on weight. In other words, they finally want to settle down, and all they find are guys they don't consider good enough for them.
They use up the best part of their physical looks being sluts, then regret it later. That is what this article is.
Yeah women don't realize or acknowledge the fact that sex is a reward for us. Sex is the pay off, if you do XYZ and it results in sex? You'll continue to do XYZ. This is true for all sexually reproducing organisms, which is how mating rituals came about. The female sets the ritual, so in our case the female is saying she doesn't want you unless other females already do, creating a closed circle of already pre-selected mates. They say shit like "I want a nice guy" to throw out the physically unattractive males from the circle.
I could generally belief this article, but the girl gets close to acknowledging this and turns around and essentially just blames it on men.
If they want monogamy and romance they need to actually reward that with sex. End of story.
Women will never acknowledge their own responsibility for their own problems.
I've seen 65% but it makes no difference really, what did I say about reward? The female gets rewarded in the divorce and has literally almost nothing to lose at all so OF COURSE she's going to file for it.
>It’s the “maybe” and the “at some point” that gets to me. The epidemic of passive man is upon us.
Women tell men to stop being domineering, its misogynistic, a REAL man is confident enough to let his women lead. Being too assertive or pressuring women in your sex life is practically rape if you make her feel intimidated.
Few years later theres a pile of articles about how 'passive' or 'indecisive' men have become.
Entire article is just a massive accusation of cowardice against the entire (attractive) male population; Boohoo, I want to settle down now, why aren't there any men who are MAN enough to tied themselves to my sinking ship, what are they AFRAID of, they need to grow some balls etc etc ad infinitum
This is the female version of "All women are whores! But why won't they sleep with me? =( " its a cry for help from the frightened and powerless, dressed up as journalism.
Yeah this is what I was talking about. She sort of acknowledges it, but barely, that girls DO NOT RESPOND WELL TO SET PLANS AND TIMES.
Personally every time I've ever said "lets meet here at this time and do this thing" the girls flaked but if you just randomly hit them up "what are you doing tonight?" it seems to work way the fuck better. They like spontaneousness is why, even though they don't know I've already planned this whole thing ahead of time and just waited to pull the trigger to hedge against her inevitable female flakiness.
Bouncing on my above point it's one of these typical female "I made a mess and now no one will come clean it up for me, woo is me" situations.
And you're right about the attractive part. If any female gave a flying fuck about commitment as much as they claim, they could walk up to any dude off the street who's single and simply ask for it. Most "beta" guys are there are denying to commit, but it's the ones that want to commit that they find excuse under the sun to ignore.
They want the guy all the other girls want to specifically commit to them so they can feel like the special chosen Cinderella. Female jealous is a vicious thing.
The second women are passed over for younger models they switch the this, every fucking time. They spent their sexual capital in their 20's on the carousel instead of investing it wisely. They have been told that they can have everything, they they deserve everything and then get all ratty about reality showing otherwise.
>how, in any way, is it bad that girls are slutty?
STD's aside it means that they are far less likely to settle and stay faithful. I enjoy my missus being abit of dirt for me in the bedroom, it kinda ruins everything is she is dirt for others too, sorry.
>>33566300 Some men aren't borderline sociopaths and would actually like to be in a relationship with a stable woman who has self respect and a mature value system. It is far more beneficial, for both men and women, to be in such relationships. For example, both will live longer.
>Contrary to the prevailing sentiments of the last few decades, it is OK to be a guy. Men born after World War II had the misfortune of growing up during the only era of recent western history in which it was not always a good thing to be male. This was primarily the result of two significant family and social changes in the post war era: 1) boys were disconnected from their fathers and other healthy male role models, and 2) boys were forced to seek approval from women and accept a female definition of what it meant to be male.
>As a result of these two dynamics, many boys and men came to believe that they had to hide or eliminate any negative male traits (like those of their fathers or other "bad" men) and become what they believed women wanted them to be. For many men, this life strategy seemed essential if they wanted to be loved, get their needs met, and have a smooth life.
>Due to the continuing social change of the last half of the 20th century, this belief system is no longer limited to just men of the baby boom generation. I frequently observe men in their thirties, twenties, and teens, with strong Nice Guy traits. It seems that each successive generation of men are becoming more and more passive.
>This social conditioning effects Nice Guys in many ways: >Nice Guys tend to be disconnected from other men. >Nice Guys tend to be disconnected from their own masculinity. >Nice Guys tend to be monogamous to their mothers. >Nice Guys tend to be dependent on the approval of women.
Read this book: https://7chan.org/lit/src/Robert_Glover_-_No_More_Mr_Nice_Guy.pdf
>>33586631 Has the author taken the sexual revolution into account and what it has done to women? I think that men are passive because why wouldn't they be, the quality of women is so shit, they are simply not worth it.
However, in order to better the situation, men should not say ''fuck it'' and go fuck sluts, but actually have a standard and stick to it.
>>33586753 Yes, he mentions a lot of things, hementions it in a bullet point but also says: (Page 35)
>Women's Liberation >During this same period of time, many women were beginning to work outside of the home, birth control provided new freedom, and women's liberation was in its infancy. Some mothers during the Baby Boom era could foresee a change in gender roles on the horizon. They worked to prepare their sons and daughters for what was to come. Many of these mothers raised their daughters to not need a man. At the same time, they trained their sons to be different from their fathers — peaceful, giving, nurturing, and attentive to a woman's needs.
>Radical feminism in the '60s and '70s projected an angry generalization about men. Some feminists claimed that men were the cause all of the problems in the world. Others asserted that men were merely an unnecessary nuisance. More than likely, the majority of women during this era did not feel this way about men. Nevertheless, enough angry women were significantly vocal to contribute to a social climate that convinced many men that it was not OK to be just who they were.
>Epitaphs like "men are pigs" and "all men are rapists" were prominent during this time. Less angry slogans of feminism asserted that "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle." Men who were already conditioned to look to women for definition and approval were especially susceptible to these kinds of messages. This added incentive for these men to try to figure out what women wanted and try to become that in order to be loved and get their needs met.
>>33586970 That's the reason why many men are ditching the system.
Never dated and never will and I like it this way.
I can talk to women, but most of the things they say are so vapid and uninteresting. You can't hold a conversation for 2 minutes with them. Not relationship material and not worth having children with.
>>33587090 Yeah, exactly the same with me, especially the dating part. I would want a girl who's fun, who knows to kid around and can make me laugh, I've met only a few of them. And I don't know where to look anymore, do I go to the huge groups who binge drink around the campus or the barely lit and loud clubs or what. I'm seriously thinking of getting into some sort of Catholic youth group. Granted, I've not done any ''looking'' for several years but I did waste a lot of time doing it in high school, lost a lot of nerves as well, all for nothing.
>>33587503 But my hands are tied, I haven't given up. It takes two to tango. I'm not very interested in defining what masculinity is other than fulfilling your duties towards your family and God. To tell you the truth, I'm very reluctant to start looking actively because I'm not in a position financially where I can support myself, let alone a relationship. All those sensible women are busy being taken abroad and spending summers on the seaside with their boyfriends because those women know their value.
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