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TRIPOLI EVACUATION AND BLACKOUT

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Mahmoud Tawil @Westcoast_TIP · 2h

3 convoys with total of 27 cars +1 lorry were leaving the US embassy in airport rd. Marines on foot and planes above. #Tripoli #Libya

Najem Mohamed @Najembarga · 2h

Right Now: Report of US embassy/Tripoli/Libya evacuation under US fighter planes protection & Marines on ground.

noura eljerbi @nouraeljerbi · 3h

@SZayani sorry i was checking now and it looks like there is no internet over Tripoli

Pol/, are you ready for yet another happening atm?

Pic unrelated, its not ISIS
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>>32993296
Diana Ghariany @DGhariany · 10h

Tripoli now...the former beautiful, rich and modern town is now without water,
without fuel, without electricity

Tripoli is actually fucked.

Libya soon to fall.

bet they miss Qaddafi now
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Najem Mohamed @Najembarga · 2h

@docuandreport in 2012 US left Benghazi alone facing terrorism! Now they r doing the same thing: leaving Tripoli alone facing MB militias!

This one might end up coming back on America again.
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bump you fucking infidels
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bump.
does no one care? on going happening
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Ansar al-sharia is in Libya, they pledged alliegence to ISIS
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>>32993296
ahhhh yeaaaa thats the stuff
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Nice
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ITSAMOTHAFUCKINBULLDOZER
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>>32993296
I love the Bulldozer.

I wonder if he does that Heavy Weapons Guy rapeface when he fires that thing?
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>>32994890
are you 12? Or do you come from reddit? Either way, fuck off.
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>>32993296
>Using DShk

>calls it an M2

sandniggers confirmed nogunz
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>>32994279
Libya's old news. At some point records of the war will be erased completely. There's a new war right now.
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>>32994860
reminder that payday2 has a black character named "chains"
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>>32993296
>shoulder fires a M2
wut? do they not realize that it has spade grips? and that shoulder firing it would be the most retarded thing you could do with it short of using it as a club?
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>>32994924
>usually humvee mounted
That's an M2. He took it from a captured Humvee.
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Now it's just getting hilarious.

>replace Iraq regime, new regime falls to extremists
>replace Ukraine regime, new regime falls to extremists (sort of)
>replace Libya regime, new regime falls to extremists

I just hope Assad manages to hold on.
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>>32993296
The death of Qadaffi is burned into my brain.

Because right before he dies he says roughly translated:

>Do you even know right from wrong anymore?!

And he wasn't just talking to them. He was talking to -me-. Because he may have been a little nuts but the world around him was and is BATSHIT INSANE.
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>>32995007
>>usually humvee mounted
no, they're mounted to all sorts of things, and even in static emplacements on tripods
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>>32994292
So how long until they try to reclaim Al-Andalus?
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>>32995028
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>>32995037
Muh Dick says it'll all be ok anon
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>>32995007
It's fuggin not
It looks nothing like an M2
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OH SHEEEEIT GUYS!!!

MORE WAR MONGERING AMERICUNT BASTARD INSURGENTS MAKING WITHDRAWS!!!

VIETNAM 2.0 HAPPENINK IN EFFEKT!!!
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>>32993296

Real life HEAVY WEAPONS GUY.

Do you even Pootis?
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>>32995037
Oh God, really?
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>>32995037
>Do you even know right from wrong anymore?!
That's enough /pol/ for me tonight
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>>32995037
fuck i wasnt ready for those feels
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>>32993296
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Good thing we liberated them from that evil man, huh?
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>>32993296
Hodor!
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>>32995037

Of course I know what's right:

Blood.

For the god of blood.

Also skulls plz kthnx!
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>>32993296

He's a big guy.
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why are muslims so fucking angry all the time?
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>>32995433
Dude, that ape is more feminine than the chick...
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>>32993296
The Bulldozer of Fallujah is surely a boss from Metal Gear Solid
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Was setting up a proxy government and failing part of your plan ?
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>>32995037
This is a world where nothing is solved
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>>32995544
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>>32995544
Seems like that's the CIA's forte. But I don't think they see it as failing. They are just trying to create havoc for the sake of destabilizing the region, not necessarily to place a pro-US leader in charge.
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>>32995544
lol cia here oh shit goyim has figured us out lol

SHUT IT DOWN LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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>>32995544
It's not hard to realize that the US' interventions in the area have guaranteed that, for at least a few decades more, nothing really changes in that region. Constant war will guarantee stagnation and the tying-up of assets and people.

It's a funny thing that, as much as the hate for the US keeps growing, mudslimes are finding an increasing number of reasons to kill each other instead of americans, don't you think?
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Perhaps he's wondering why you would topple a regime and then leave his country without a leader for long periods of time ? ? ? ?
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>>32995848
>implying americans arent killing americans.

The homicide rates in US outnumber those in a war torn country like Iraq alone.
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Of course Libya is done for, you either bow to the petrodollar or you no longer become a functioning country.
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>>32995848
The problem is with the region destabilized, there will be refugees. If all of this bullshit links back to the zionists, they are doing it to ship the living muslims out after killing everyone else.
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>>32995037
>You let the USA execute Libya's best leader.
>You did nothing, you didn't even take it seriously.
>Libya is overrun with rebels and one man could have stopped them.
God damnit apathy. We are destroying the world and we still wont do anything about it.
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>>32993376
>Implying the people of Libya kicked Qaddafi out, and not some western-backed band of criminal scum.
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>>32993376
So it's like Detroit.
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>>32993376
They should all migrate to america

u know

Land of the free home of the brave?
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>>32993376
>bet they miss Qaddafi now

>Shah of Iran
>Saddam
>Qaddafi
Bashir

Why is their hitlist full of the only people who can keep their god damned countries together and out of the hands of religious nuts?
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>>32997230


DOLLAR AKBAR!!!
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>>32997256
Because hostile neighbors give Israel a reason to "defend" itself.
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>>32997256

>Lets all give our countries away,the very same nations our RELIGIOUS forefathers built and bled for, to a bunch of international secularists devil worshipers who care only to rape it's wealth and enslave it's people for international bank/corporate exploitation.


SOUNDS LIKE A JEWDIFUL PLAN CHAIM!!!
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>>32997256
>Hey guys we can put a country somewhere.
>The choices are Berlin, New York or Jerusalem.
>Lets put the country in Berlin! The Germans need to pay!
>No, no, New York is where many Jews already live and its in the centre of the financial world!
>Guys, guys. Oil.
>Its settled then, Jerusalem it is.
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>>32993376
>bet they miss Qaddafi now
He literally became the richest man on the planet by stealing from the country's vast oil reserves and ruling the nation with an iron fist.

Nobody misses him.
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>>32997400
Funny how he only got booted after he tried to ditch the dollar in his oil transactions.
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>>32997400
Jidf, please...
www.globalresearch.ca/libyas-water...great-man-made-river.../5334868
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>>32997400
>He literally became the richest man on the planet by stealing from the country's vast oil reserves and ruling the nation with an iron fist.
>Nobody misses him.

People miss Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot.

Why would he be any different?
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>>32997400
Mate, he was the only reason it was sort of safe there. During the Cold War it was full of slavs there.
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>>32997400
>Nobody misses him.

Tell that to the rest of the continent, shill.

RIP in peace, comrade Qadaffi, lion of Africa.
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>>32997708
>slavs

oh look another one of those idiots that classifies "slavs" as soem kind of race

must be one of those imperialist britbongs with an eternal chip on it's shoulder.

fuck off and sink into the ocean...britbongolia
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>>32997400
You would miss him if you had been living there before his fall.

He built the country into something great. Evil from the outside came in and destroyed the country and it's peoples lives with widespread misery, suffering and death.

http://www.saidaonline.com/en/news.php?go=fullnews&newsid=20035
In the outskirts of this city, Libya's second largest, row after row of sand-colored concrete apartment blocks and villas are sprouting from the desert. Hundreds of kilometers away, construction cranes dot the Mediterranean skyline of the capital, Tripoli.

The multibillion dollar construction frenzy taking place is the latest and most visible sign of Libya's drive for growth. It's a push that largely ignored the global financial meltdown that left other oil-rich Arab nations stumbling over the last couple of years, and reflects how Libya is tapping its oil wealth to reshape a country isolated for years by sanctions and international disdain.

Libya is "really trying to become, for lack of a better term, a new Dubai." said Carlos Caceres, a representative of the Los Angeles-based engineering giant AECOM working in Benghazi. He was referring to the United Arab Emirate sheikdom whose stratospheric rise was rivaled only by its staggering debt woes.

AECOM is overseeing a $80 billion project to build 160,000 housing units throughout the country, about a quarter of which will be in Benghazi, and refurbishing sewage and paving roads there. Overall, however, Libya plans to spend $500 billion over the next decade on a host of projects.

New universities are being planned, Tripoli's shabby airport is being overhauled, new Toyota and Honda sedans abound in the streets and trendy cafes dot street corners.
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>>32995037 >>32995125 >>32995219 >>32995225 >>32995275 >>32995350 >>32995545 >>32996494

You think those are feels...

Here comes some feels!
http://www.globalresearch.ca/libyas-water-wars-and-gaddafis-great-man-made-river-project/5334868

>In July 2011, NATO not only bombed the Great Man-Made River water supply pipeline near Brega, but also destroyed the factory that produces the pipes to repair it, claiming in justification that it was used as “a military storage facility” and that “rockets were launched from there”. Six of the facility’s security guards were killed in the NATO attack, and the water supply for the 70% of the population who depend on the piped supply for personal use and for irrigation has been compromised with this damage to Libya’s vital infrastructure.

>The construction on the last two phases of the Great Man-Made River Project were scheduled to continue over the next two decades, but NATO’s war on Libya has thrown the project’s future – and the wellbeing of the Libyan people – into great jeopardy.

>TLDR
We destroyed water wells.
We destroyed the "Great Man Made River"
It's all irradiated from depleted uranium.
We are death....
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>>32997400

under Qaddfi they had universal housing
heath care, education
incredible benefits to have a family
heck if you wanted to become a farmer they would give you land

there was wealth for everyone, because oil

now its a shithole, because westerners take most of the oil profits
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>>32997400
>Nobody misses al-Gaddafi

King Idris, please leave.
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>>32997785
>WW2 destroys Libya as a successful Italian colony (Some of the cities had up to 50% Italians living there, they were expelled after the war).
>Libya destroyed again by European/American bombers and their leader executed dissolving them into a rebel infested nightmare.
The middle east and north africa might be a little less shit if we stopped 'intervening'.
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>>32997767
You are going to deny that Libya had lots of slavs working there during the Cold War? Typical westernshit retard, who thinks he knows anything about the soviet block.
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>>32997400
>He literally became the richest man on the planet
Citation needed.
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>>32997866
Perhaps it did have, I know little about Libya and what went on there during your "cold war"...but I suspect you're full of britbong bullshit...you filthy lying scheming spawn of a kike britbrong.
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>>32997400
>nobody misses gaddafi
1/10 for making me reply
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>>32997813
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>>32997400
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>>32997256

in the old days the enemy was communism
so you wanted stability in those places especially when they were pumping your oil

but now theres' no more red threat we need a islamic fundamentalism and muh terrorism to justify our military

Guys like Saddam were never going to attack the USA
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>>32997394
Why is this boadd filled with newfags recently, who are still stuck on bluepill "oil is the problem" level or are speaking like it would be the youtube comment section? At this pace xD mjght get a reasonable comeback on /pol/
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>>32998074
Give me one good reason why they had to dump the Jews on an Arab country rather than set up in the West. Expulsion of the Jews isn't a good enough reason.
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>>32998035


lol You seem to think the "west" won the war on "communism"...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

yesterdays commies are today's "democrats"...and they're coming to bring us all "democracy".
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>>32998074
school's out for summer!
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>>32997394

>implying zionism didn't start in the late 1800's
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>>32997974
>Hated interest rates.

Well, that explains everything!
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>>32998110
Israel has next to no oil. Only shalegas found recently. The reason is, that todays israel was allready filled with jewish radicals, so nobody really bothered
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>>32998110
israel is just a western colony.....it's no different than when the europeans were colonising the "new world".

Just ask a native american what they were going through (genocide and european tyranny).

The gaza is just that...an attempt to colonize this region by none arabs.

The alternative is simple...kill them or be killed
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>>32997974
lol

has higher education rate than germany
which is europe's crop de cream

which also implies, americans are much dumber than the average lybian
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>>32998115

lol You seem to think "Communism" was ever the enemy anyways
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>>32998235
well since jews invented communism

oh wait

you're probably right and >>32998115 is an autist

power mongering people won

america was already sold out once the settling began

george washington was a horrible person as most other founding fathers, but franklin perhaps
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>>32993296
>>32997974
I want to share Gadafi's green book. Its actually very well written, the only problem I have with it, is it doesn't go into detail on his form of government... Really its too vague, but it has alot of brilliant kernals of truth.

http://openanthropology.org/libya/gaddafi-green-book.pdf

For people to be happy, they must be free, and to be free, they must possess
the possibility of satisfying their own needs. Whoever possesses the means of fulfilling your needs controls or exploits you, and may enslave you despite any legislation to the contrary.
The material needs of people that are basic and personal
start with food, housing, clothing and transport and must be
regarded as private and sacred and their satisfaction should not
depend on hire.

To satisfy these material needs through rent, gives the original
owner the right to interfere in your personal life and to control
your imperative needs, even if the original owner be the soci-
ety in general. The original owner can usurp your freedom and
take away your happiness. The interference of the original owner
may include repossessing your clothes, even leaving you naked
on the street. Likewise, the owner of your means of transporta-
tion may leave you stranded on the sidewalk, and the owner of
your house may make you homeless.
People’s imperative needs cannot be regulated by legal or
administrative procedures. They must be fundamentally im-
planted into the society in accordance with natural rules.
The aim of the socialist society is the happiness of the human
being, which cannot be attained except by the establishment of
one’s material, and spiritual freedom. The achievement of free-
dom depends on the private and sacred attainment of man’s
needs. One’s needs should not be under the domination of oth-
ers and should not be subject to plunder by any source in society,
otherwise one will live in insecurity.

FUKING BASED
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>>32998309

>because jews have no involvement in modern western capitalism or democracy
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>>32995544
Of course

Gaddafi refused the IMF's offer, we had to find out what plans he had for a gold standard currency.
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>>32998363
>For people to be happy, they must be free, and to be free, they must possess the possibility of satisfying their own needs.
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>>32998385
so have niggers
or russians

based argument please

like, financial jewdom is horrible, bibi is horrible, israel's hardliner are horrible, most of the "ashkenazim jetset privileged caste" are horrible, sheltered, crazy and indoctrinated people (which isn't much different from the same type of creature created by mormons or new apostolic christians)

just saying, jews are just one of many heads to cut off the hydra

All Heil Hydra
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>>32998363

He is right, as long as those basic needs are not guaranteed as a right for everybody you are always a slave.
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>>32998487
>Jews reveal hidden Hasidic World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQWLJhsl-t4

MUST WATCH

The show was cancelled after this... It was their last episode....
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So this is how ww2 starts, thanks obama
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>>32998563
as long as you work for other people you are a slave

as long as most everyone has a higher social state than you

you are a slave

I have more respect for people selling their bodies
than people selling their life time, work ability or shit like that

if you're not born privileged
chances are you're worth around 120 bucks
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>>32998630
>ww2
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>>32997813
had to
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>>32998605
so horrible :E i watched a Vice documentary about those too

i mean, for fuck's sake the man isn't allowed to work, has to read retarded torah all day

WAAAH

is horrible in israel too, but imagine they'd all be like that israel would go boom within a few weeks

but like my ex was from new apostolic christians and even tho they're less retarded, they're still very retarded
>3 times church a week
>2 church quoires
>constant traditional shit
>most people have bullshit jobs with high income and much bullshit

there's also a funny video about an american going to the hasidics in israel


shit that video is horrible, i feel for the dudes trying to escape that sect Oo

shit like that isn't possible in most other parts of the world at least

where i live we just abolished "12 Tribes" which was christian mystic bullshit

in america shit like Waco happens
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>>32998110
>Give me one good reason why they had to dump the Jews on an Arab country rather than set up in the West.

A combination of proxy-colonialism coupled with a logistical nightmare following a humanitarian crisis.

It begins here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement

And goes to hell here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Paper_of_1939#Reactions_and_effects

and will end with:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Temple
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkTUDw0mjMA
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>>32998641

Not really, the concept of guaranteed housing, cloths, food, transportation and communication allows you to freely choose to work. You decide that you want more and so you work out of free will. Ofc social status plays a role here but not everybody needs that. But everybody needs those basic needs fullfilled.

And once you not getting them you are a slave because you cannot chose not to work. And once the competition amoung us will be so high for the decreasing number of jobs due to the increasing machinisation you will get paid shitty wages because you have no power, no influence and no money. And you do not have the option to not run in the hamster wheel.
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>>32997256
Qaddafi's got more in common with Mosaddegh. Amerisrael don't like Arab states with nationalised oil companies.
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>>32998833
>tipple set of dubs

Truth is exposed
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>>32998870
ok I agree with you that under such a system man could be freed of this kind of slavery, i'd like it if that privilege was equally shared
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>>32999230

That is the point. In an utopian society everyone gets this basic needs guaranteed and some money to work with. That would put away so much strain of the average person and the work you do will be done with a lot more pleasure. Everything you do additionally is voluntarily, and still should be able to get rich.

I think such a society is possible if the superrich would share more of their wealth, but is practically impossible to make them do so.
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>>32999230
>i'd like it if that privilege was equally shared
Then you should be utterly enraged by what happened in Libya, because this is exactly what the Libyan people had before western interests stuck their greedy, lying snouts into the trough.
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>>32997256
>Shah of Iran
>kept country together

lel, America LITERALLY destroyed democracy in Iran at the behest of the British to instate the shah who was hated.
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>>32999441
I am, very.

I'm the Guy who always gets hated by every fanboy because I try to shed light on both sides of the wall, the green book is something I grew up with and Gadaffi was my most favorite Posh Politician.

>>32999346
I agree with for example Marx that it's the only way to ensure survival of humanity as one entity in the future.

There was an interesting Letter by the founder of Amazon concerning that problem, it was written to all the other one Promille (as opposed to the one percent)

when old Russia crumbled, socialism was dead

we in the west had o need anymore to compete with that system on the social basis
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Can someone red pill me on Gaddafi pls
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>>32998833

>qaddifi adressing arab league "why do we sit by when they hang Saddam Hussien, any one of us can be next"

those feels
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>>32999534
I dont agree with marx and i dont like communism.
There must always be a way for the exceptional to shine and it isnt worng when they earn a lot more. It only becomes perverted when we reach a point where are entire lifes are based around running faster in the hamster wheel to have a somehow decent outlook in life.

The balance has shifted mainly due to the people losing more and more influence in the employer/employee powerscale.

Once the employers can dicate everything they make you run as fast as possible for the lowest amount possible. Which in the end will hurt themselves but that is a too abstract concept for them to grasp. Not in the sense of intellectual capability but egoism and shortterm goals + knowing that they wont achieve shit when others dont follow suit.

So you are basically left with a situation where we slowly lose all power and the wealth and influence will be gathered at the top. Then they basically hold total control over us.

You know, competition isnt bad, and it lies in our very own nature. It only becomes a problem when your whole life is running in a competition you have no way out.

And that powerscale will shift more and more.
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>>32998641
>as long as you work for other people you are a slave
One of the ultimate red pills.
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>>32999760

We are talking about social concepts, not everybody can be steve jobs, rockefeller or bill gates. Not even on the smallest scale.
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>>32999704
Communism, not being a fan of it after Marx?

Eh, I dunno all he says is what you wrote, so you're a marxist communist but you don't like it?

please don't get confused over "muh socialisms" "muh communisms" and all the propaganda

Marx didn't demand communism

he didn't advocate communism

he did many things, he was a great philosopher and writer

don't make that american mistake of thinking Marx==Communism

you couldn't be more wrong

also I'm only ntot humoring your arguments because you misdirected them at me under obvious confusion.
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>>32999704
just let it be said, I agree with you

but please don't be like that and think in terms of "Marx==Communism"

Marx for example opposed Socialism (he didn't oppose communism, but he didn't advocate it either..)
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>>32999861

So what did he advocate then? I never read what he said i just connected him with communism, i make up my own mind about such topics because i d like to think i have great insight in human motivation and the general "psyche".
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>>32998605
Don't you understand that these people are definitely not the ones who are behind this?

These retards are like mormons/Armish. Oblivious shit like this. The really enemies sit in the sky scrapers you see in the background of this video.
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Calm down Poltard .
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>>33000025
Lots of stuff, equality, fairness

he was just one of many of his time, schools of thought

1842 he wrote articles against communism for example

just imagine you have one of the brightest minds ever and he thinks about everything

like those people often do

then imagine he's just another of these people who get hated by everyone because they'd try to elaborate the western and eastern front in ukrainia while getting called evil words from both sides

or being constantly called feminist as well as misogynist

or antisemite and semite/schill

we all have great insight, but only with proper horizon we can have more


like you probably have to accept that in this case your horizon was very clouded by bias which you probably didn't contribute yourself to your horizon


there are so many philosophers who greatly criticized everything

the one thing he advocated about communism is
"whenever humanity reaches a phase where theoretically ALL basic needs can be solved through automatizatio and streamlining, then it is a time for communism" i gravely misquoted him there because i cna't be arsed to look up what he actually wrote

he isn't the great father of communism

why? because he wrote against (dumb and biased) communism advocation

meaning communism had to be existant prior to his existance

like i also think I have a great insight

I speak 11 languages fluently enough to communicate, I've studied three times and I've read so many books I have an extra room for all my books.

Tho we all, always think that because narcicism and stuff is god given ^

anyway he was a democratic syndicalist and that's what he promoted for example, among a lot of other things

but it also was far from the only thing he could imagine or promoted

he was just such a smart mother fucker that it blows most other smart mother fuckers out of proportions

and that's all just possible because he read tons of books, travelled a lot, learned many languages and stuff
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>>33000249
seconded
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>WASHINGTON (AP) — State Dept.: US shutters embassy in Libya, evacuates staff amid growing violence in Tripoli.
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>>33000276

I can do that on my own that is why i dont read such books.

But then again: I m not biased against someone who i dont know, i m ignorant about him then. Nonetheless i dont like the idea of communism if marx was the father of it or not doesnt matter then.
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>>32994860
how the fuck do you see through that plate?
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>>33000531
well what do you know about marxist communism?
if in the far future, we're a set number of people and all basic needs are produced at a neglicible cost to society as a whole because everything is so modernized and 'perfect'

what is your reason for not liking to provide the basic needs of everyone?

because that is what it is about

there would still be jobs and workers would be heroes that would be privileged by work while everyone else just monkeys around and creates culture, art, technology? i mean this is what happens in places of leisure or with the privilege of it, see all history for reference
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It's all right there in the star lady shiksahs and gentile slavs.

Your "nation" has a star on it's flag???...ur a slave and servant of the international lying,swindling,mass murdering, genocidal, racist,civilization destroying kike.

Dont believe me???? READ THE TALMUD!!! then compare to the "society" you live in.

simple as that.
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>>33000574
it would also automagically diminish a lot of criminal behaviour and other problems and society could try to live as a whole because there is enough time and little enough work so it can be shared among all the willing with everyone still having enough time for socialization and "species appropriate" living (long meals in community, communal learning, traditions, voluntary/honorary work for the communal/social)

there have been times when things like these happened and under certain predispositions these are part of social norms that will reemerge or reinforce themseles

this is true to some extent even among non humanoid species, mostly mammals from what i know tho
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>>33000587

1.We are far from it.
2.Has no root in basic human psychology.

If you are thinking of a far distant future you are probably right, along other things that have to be considered.

Id rather apply practical changes that have an effect within our lifetime. And once we make progress it becomes easier to do a transition.
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>>33000739
that's also all he was about, he concluded that it is very far in the future, if ever

that there will be war and that socialism is under NO circumstance the right approach to survive til communism for the sake of making it communism in a system that's initially flawed due to real world political and other limitations which in worst case would breed a situation where it becomes even less possible due to reasons

2. it doesn't need to have a root in psychology, modern psychology is very young if you didn't know that

and especially back then I wouldn't have wanted it to take a root in modern psychology, because back then modern psychology was utterly retarded, even if it was a step into some direction

if you say you have such great insight, this is also possible for everyone else, especially karl marx or whatever other person with similar function

it's okay that you'd rather want to do that

I don't know why you are telling me this tho

I never agreed, nor disagreed or wrote something that would in the least relate to such a statement?

the thing about transitions between states is, the more pressure, the more violently and abrupt it will happen

it could be like the prophecy from Amazon founder dude
>http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U9Oe__mSxPw


I don't care, I haven't put my opinion anywhere, tho it should be pretty obvious i'm not against a communist utopia, marx knew just as well that it's just an utopia

also about the ignorance thing, if you say no bias you deny that you were ever influenced by your culture

which i have a hard time to believe

for all it's worth

>I AM NOT thinking of a far distant future
You asked me what Marx was about, I delivered
for an esteemed person such as yourself, it confuses me that you can't follow this conversation well enough to discern what
>deliverance
is and what not.

You asked

I delivered

I dunno what happened meanwhile in your brain
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-9UvrLyj3k
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Thank God the Western bankers bombed the shit out of Libya and overthrew that criminal tyrant Gadaffi
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Can someone remind me why Clinton, Obama and the people who tell them what to do haven't been executed for the war in Libya?
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>>32997974
Why is Lybia so based? Is this why the US stirred up trouble there?
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Costs a lot of money to keep embassies and PMCs and consultants there. And with the oil and gas infrastructure being progressively looted and destroyed, the motivation diminishes. Empires are supposed to be about taking not giving.
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>>33001892
Because they have the nukes?
Don't be silly.
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>>32995545
It's a world where great men let themselves be cowed by international Jews because "muh holocaust!"
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>>33001083

You misunderstood me:

You are talking about a distant future of our entire species that at one point has to change to that idea. That is like saying that the sun will run out of energy and we have to find a new planet.

That is some mental circlejerk that just isnt relevant at this day and time.

So when i was talking about "i dont like communism" i was rather refering to an application at this day and age. Which as you probably know never turned out good and will not turn out good in any distant future.

So i rather propose models that are realistic and applicable to change some peoples mind instead of a philopsphical circlejerk that leads to nowhere and just exists for that sake of arguing.

So you are basically in essencee saying: We either apply my perfect utopian model (which will not work outin this day and age)or we just do nothing.

So you are saying: let us do nothing.
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>>33001892
Most of our government officials are puppets. They couldn't actually make decisions if they wanted to.
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Is it normal that I'm angry after reading this thread ?
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>>33002406
elaborate. angry about what anon?
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>>33002479
About the execution of Gaddafi, that was carried out by my country, about the way we treat actual human beings for the sake of the capital and the Jews, about the fact that the destruction of Libya will lead to million of Sub-Saharan monkeys flowing into Europe.

And mainly about the fact that here politicians are still stroking their ego about Libya.
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>>33002600

That is how politics work: The interests matter, and how you get shit done. Everything is just written on paper, and paper is patient. What matters to them is results.
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>>33002698
Except the last sensible president we have, De Gaulle; would have never allowed that, because he refused that France become the slave of the slaves of the Jews (Communists and Americans).
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>>32997400
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>>33002772

Your country is one of the few ones that actually have a shot of making something work.
Dont expect anything of germany.
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>>33002899
Epic meme. Simply epic.
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>>33002935
France carried out the orders and it's French agents that shot Gaddafi in the face.
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>>33002992

I m rather talking about your people being dedicated enough to vote differently.
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>>33003071
Half of us don't vote.
They're the people parties like the FN or DLR have to conquer, sadly it's very complicated to get someone from a small village that, by pride, refuses any kind of state welfare to trust a politician.
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>>33000682
Cool man but how does he see through the plate?
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>>32999452
for real, Iran has done pretty well for itself post-shah, and is one of the most independent nations on the planet.
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