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what should be legalized after this?

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what should be legalized after this?
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#legalizeholocaust
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>>32248335
shrooms.
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>>32248362
legalize burning weed, legalize burning jews
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>>32248335
all plant drugs, unprocessed.

also, suicide.
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>>32248426

Great idea. Then stoners can turn themselves schizo and be even more of a burden to taxpayers.
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>>32248494
Shut up retard.
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Medical MDMA
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>>32248538
Recreational MDMA
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MDMA

almost all of the problems associated with ecstasy come from the other shit that's mixed in the pills (mainly meth)
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all drugs

I want to inject heroin already
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>>32248494
you must like music from the old west
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>>32248335
>what should be legalized after this
You know...
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Obviously LSD.
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Psilocybin and MDMA for clinical purposes, eventually working up to recreational purposes.
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Everything.
Banning drugs only drives them underground and makes everything associated with them more dangerous.
Dr
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>>32248687
as someone who's used LSD multiple times, it's not obvious to me. in fact, I'm completely in support of leaving LSD illegal
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>>32248620
This, Estascy is way more harmless than weed. Feels amazing too.

But due to it being illegal for no reason it leads to unpure pills and such which is actually dangerous.
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>oldest sister married her college boyfriend
>he makes over 160k now, six years out of college
>they have a kid
>sister has become stay home mom and gets baked every day while doing housework and the kid is in preschool
fuck her easy life
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Everything.
Banning drugs only drives them underground and makes everything associated with them more dangerous.
Drug abusers should be able to seek treatment freely, without worry of conviction.
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>>32248744
>Estascy is way more harmless than weed
that's total rubbish. MDMA is still a stimulant and carries the risks associated with that. it's also very possible to develop serotonin syndrome from overuse of MDMA. weed is a hell of a lot safer
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>>32248740
Why?
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>>32248752
Fuck your beta normalfag ass.
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>>32248494
>implying people should pay taxes
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>>32248786
it's dangerous if you don't know what you're doing. you need to go into it with a clear and positive mind. I think a lot of people would treat it as "weed with visuals"
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>>32248744
>Ecstacy is harmless.
This is what retards actually believe.
>Retards in charge of drugs.
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>>32248783
Ecstacy will kill your ass in one sitting if you overdose. You can't OD with pot.
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rape
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>>32248845
You can OD on water. I don't see anyone making water illegal.
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Pedophilia
>they're just born that way
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>>32248916
I'll bet you're the same kind of person who makes the "cars kill more people than guns!" argument non-jokingly
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>>32248962
Cars r opprezing uzzz
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>>32248999
shut up
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>>32248962
>Objects kill live objects.
This is why I come here.
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>>32248335
there's a difference between "decriminalizing" and "legalizing"

I think weed, and possibly DMT and mushrooms (with very strict dosing guidelines) are as far as we should go with legalization, but we should decriminalize everything else, because even though you shouldn't be able to buy MDMA off of a shelf, sending people to prison for it seems counterproductive.
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>>32248494
> implying you can turn schizo with shrooms

believe me I've tried.
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Mescaline recreational)
Ibogaine (medical)
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>>32248916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
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>>32248335
LSD
DMT
Salvia (illegal in more and more places thanks to idiotic teenagers)
Psilocybin

... basically everything with low physical and societal harm.

Actually I'd say legalize all drugs but too many people are idiots and will ruin themselves with Meth. So just legalize all psychedelics.
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>>32249039
DMT and mushrooms should absolutely not be legalized before other drugs. I've used LSD, mushrooms, and DMT, and it's a lot easier to enter a bad trip with mushrooms/DMT (they're basically the same drug and give the same kind of effects, DMT is just shorter and more intense) than LSD. MDMA would be a fairly safe candidate for legalization, along with some lesser opiates. I'd love to be able to go to the store and pick up some poppy pods (which are already legal, but not for consuming). amphetamine also isn't too dangerous
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>>32248335
Dumbass fucking kids. Worried about what should be legalized. So many thoughts , so many deep, numerous, limitless thoughts in the expanse of the human mind, and all you can come up with is, what should be legalized next? Lol! Fucking simpleton hippie.
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>>32249066
>schizo with shrooms
This thread is killing me. Thank you for that. /pol/ obviously doesn't dabble in drugs.
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>>32248335
HEMP.
people don't seem to distinguish weed from hemp, hemp that can not be used as a drug and is extremely hand cost effective and green to manufacture goods with is illegal, primarily due to ignorance and lobbying
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Alcohol should be outlawed.
It's objectively the most harmful drugs.
Also drunkards are usually dumb and annoying beyond all that is good.
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>>32249206
Politicians be dumb
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>>32248916
ive tried this, you just throw up lolol kek fucking chink idiots
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>>32248335
hate speech
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>>32249080
Kek.
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>>32249248
>alcohol
>objectively the most harmful
not only is that wrong, but you're totally missing the biggest reason why alcohol is still legal. are you ready? I'm going to tell you. here it goes

IT'S EASY TO MAKE
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>>32249143
How can you fit so much dick in your mouth at once? Holy shit.
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>>32249306
>not only is that wrong,
Alcohol is the shittiest drug.
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>>32249362
>a drug that is legal causes more deaths and injuries than drugs that are illegal
WOOOOOOOOOW
MIND = BLOWN
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>>32249379
It's a relative score. Prevalence is irrelevant.
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>>32249362
I love depressants and alcohol is the easiest one to get.
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!
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>>32249080
lolled what episode is this from?
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Legalize heroin next. That way all the druggie faggots kill themselves when they OD. One less problem.
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>>32249475
I'm genuinely all for it.
It will result in fewer heroin overdoses.
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>>32249475
Most heroin-related problems are due to it being illegal.
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>>32249475
They OD anyway.
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>>32249143
>So many thoughts , so many deep, numerous, limitless thoughts in the expanse of the human mind, and
yet here you are posting on 4chan.
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If taken in a safe, controlled environment, shrooms ARE GOOD FOR YOU MENTAL HEALTH!

"Research suggests they may have permanent, positive effects on the human brain."

source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/07/03/psychedelic-drugs-put-your-brain-in-a-waking-dream-study-finds/
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>>32249362
per capita of users, alcohol would be near the bottom with pot. Liquor is just commonly used.
Only a complete idiot dies from alchohol poisoning or even drinking and driving (not counting pedestrians hit)
Alchohol has never killed anyone. Idiots just kill themselves or worse innocent others. Same can be said about every drug. LEGALIZE IT ALL
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>>32249561
>Alchohol has never killed anyone
This one is going on my /pol/ hall of fame.
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>mfw everyone from /pol/ has no clue how drugs work and their real effects
>mfw /pol/ is just a bunch of anti-fun losers

Shame really.
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>>32248826
If we lived in a perfect world all drugs would be legal but you have to take a class on each individual drug you can buy. At least psychedelics. You have to have a certain amount of respect for stuff like that.
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>>32249598
>Being trolled this easily
Another retard victim. Possible samefag, if true 0/20/8.
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>>32249133
>DMT is similar to shrooms

guess how I know you're a dumbass
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>>32249598
Voluntarily chooses to drink, drinks an excessive amount, enough to kill oneself. ALCOHAL KILLED THEM.
You vote democrat don't you?
I decide to drive really fast and irresponsibly blindfolded and I hit and kill a kid. Cars kill people right? all those automobile death, something should be done about cars. Car didn't kill him you idiot I did. Cars are inamite objects. Fermented anything i just a liquid, and guns are just heaps of metal, they are incapable of any action. They are tools, not people you fucking moron.
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>>32249715
guess how I know you've never tried either
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>>32249613
>everyone on /pol/ is the same person
Kill yourself immediately.
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>>32248335
all drugs
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>>32249561
>what is liver failure
>what is drug interactions
>what is non car alcohol related accidents
Right, alcohol has never killed anyone and all meth is a miracle cure the drug companies don't want you to know about
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>>32249715
Both are tryptamines that work with serotonin receptors, unlike, for instance, Salvinorin-A.
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>>32249561
>Alchohol has never killed anyone.

Hey now, I'm a big time drunkard myself, but come on dude....
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>>32249736

You sound mad.
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>>32248335
Legalize everything.
So finally a man on ecstasy can take a horse dick in his arse with his brother who is his husband while teaching his adopted son how 'degeneracy' was a word used to opress him.
Ffs
>slippery slope guys, its all over.
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>>32249733
but I have. Even the ego death is vastly different. you probably didn't smoke real DMT. sorry bud. :/
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>tfw no qt3.14 acidhead gf
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>>32249716
I don't know, wouldn't you say their mother killed all those people? I mean once you're born your death is inevitable. Everything else just speeds it up. Life is ultimately the cause of death.
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>>32249561
>LEGALIZE IT ALL

the only intelligent 3 words in your whole post, bro
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>>32249751
>what is liver failure
self caused. alcohol did not repeatedly force itself down the users throat
>what is drug interactions
Self caused, I have never had a drug interaction. Probably because I have never voluntarily used drugs. But feel free to believe its just the drugs being merciful to me.
>what is non car alcohol related accidents
Caused by the inebriated person not the alcohol itself. Unless a giant shipping crate full of booze fell on someone. even then I'd consider that human error
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>>32249826
>maybe if I use a term I heard on 420chan, he'll think I know what I'm talking about
I make my own DMT, by the way. it's real, lol
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>>32249848
See
>>32249831
If you want to get technical it is impossible for you to cause your death, only accelerate it
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How many racists do you know that do psychedelics?
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>>32249831
>>32249778
>>32249751
>>32249598

DO you believe murder is at fault of the the gun or the one who pulls the trigger?

>>32249831
or in your case is it the fault of the mother? for birthing someone who got shot?
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>>32249733
>Remembering a DMT trip.
Ya blew it, try again.
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>>32249943
wow, you're even dumber than the other guy
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>>32249928
Psychedelics cure racism.
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>>32249796
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>>32249932
>or in your case is it the fault of the mother? for birthing someone who got shot?
If she hadn't birthed him he would never have been shot.

But really it's the deterministic universe's fault. Free will is a lie after all.
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>>32249820
>So finally a man on ecstasy can take a horse dick in his arse with his brother who is his husband while teaching his adopted son how 'degeneracy' was a word used to opress him.
There is literally nothing wrong with that.
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>>32249966
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>>32249928
I know one guy who hates every race except white people, he weighs 250 pounds and does weird drugs with long names.
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>>32249513
Hey, don't bother being rational here. We'd rather hear morons share their brainwashed thoughts.
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>>32249866
>>32249923
I saw it, but it is a stupid comparison. The mother has no direct link to the child death. Whereas with anyone with any alcohol related death there is malevolence or negligence at the part of the intoxicated person, resulting in death. Seeing as alcohol is again an inanimate object, that people CHOOOSE to ingest. which is why blaming alcohol for the actions of those who abuse it, is not any more alcohols fault as 9/11 is at the fault of boeing
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>>32250034
Three of my friends are ex-heroin addicts and they have no idea how the world works.
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>>32250063
>is not any more alcohols fault as 9/11 is at the fault of boeing
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/17/us/new-york-cantor-fitzgerald-american-settlement/
By your metric the bartender is a murderer
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>>32250063
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Judge-9-11-lawsuits-can-proceed-against-1123861.php
http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/07/testimony_began_monday_in_911.html

Would you look at fucking that?
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>>32250163
>normalfags
>moderation
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>>32248491
That's a fungus you dumb nigger.
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>>32248494
Edge master
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>>32248335
Ecstasy / MDMA
Mayyyybe DMT?
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>>32248335
Mushrooms (all unprocessed plant drugs for that matter)
MDMA
Prostitution
Steroids
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>>32250247
>moderation
>product disables inhibition
And that's the rub, while people who drink alcohol do so recklessly, the alcohol still alters their fucking behavior. It ISN'T just there fault. A minor warning label about driving a car or operating machinery or being pregnant isn't enough responsibility on the part of alcohol distributors. Cigarettes have death warnings stamped all over the shit.

And speaking of being pregnant, HOW ABOUT THAT FUCKING SHIT?

There are people that drink alcohol in the early stages of pregnancy before they even know they are pregnant causing long term damage to their future children. They DIDN'T know the risks and alcohol still fucks up or even kills their kid. FAS isn't a fucking joke.
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>>32250163
article made me cringe.
>By your metric the bartender is a murderer
No a bartender serves alcohol does not consume it.
bartenders are legally obligated to cut someone off at a certain point but at the end of the day they can't stop people from drinking.
Do you believe that alcohol should be held criminally accountable and charged in a court of law?
Intoxication CAN be used as a defense to turn murder into manslaughter, soley because it can remove intent. Do you believe the law should be changed so that people who voluntarily consume excessive amounts of alcohol should be immune from any criminal charges for anything they do?
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>>32250240
They are sueing the airline, not the plane. Which is still stupid IMO
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>>32250482
>bartenders are legally obligated to cut someone off at a certain point
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/02/ohio-bartender-fired-for-calling-police-on-drunken-driver/
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drugs
gambling
prostitution
public nudity
bigamy
peer-to-peer filesharing of copyrighted works

anything that increases a person's individual freedom and does no great harm to others or society
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>>32249928

Got one right here.
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>>32250454
I take it you have never dranken before?

As someone who drinks in moderation I can say it is extremely easily manageable.
First of all prior to going out drinking I make sure I have transporation home, I will never even bring my car to my destination so it is not even an option.
Then When I sense I drank enough I would stop. Now granted someone might miss that point fair enough. But believe it or not there is a long long way to go between falling over puking, and literally killing yourself. Alcohal related death is not "oops I drank to much" ITS holy fuck how in the living fuck did you drink that much so fast. Jesus. OR you drink a shit tonne on a daily basis again your a fucking idiot.
AS for FAS fair enough but then if there is a chance you could be pregnant dont drink. But men, non sexually active women or even women who only participate in safe sex are probably fine so...

>>32250607
how the bar is a douche bag. This proves what?
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>>32248335
All psychadelics should be legal and people should be encouraged to use them. Imagine if everyone did mescaline and mushrooms instead of alcohol.
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>>32250641
>gambling
>no great harm to others or society
Um...no?

You know what, frankly I'd be okay with any and all of this shit if it were properly tracked and regulated. 2 drink a day limit with doctoral permission? Fine. Minimum amount of disposable income and no debts before gambling? Fine. Health checks for hookers and clients? Fine. Public nudity, but decency laws still observed? Fine. Bigamy post total rewriting of our tax code (okay that will never happen, but conceptually). Fine. P2P filesharing if you don't have a minimum amount of disposable income and no debt? Fine.

Drugs in a controlled environment with doctoral permission? Fine, but you won't get the doctoral permission for most drugs and those should still fucking be banned.
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>>32249716
>buh buh wars never killed people! it was just the people were dumb enough to declare war and fight!1!1

THat's how stupid you sound
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>>32250828

>Schizophrenia and mental illness would be pandemic
>Society would collapse

Sounds great
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>>32250163
>>32250240
The lawsuit settled. Would of never held up if it made it to court
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>>32250800
>As someone who drinks in moderation I can say it is extremely easily manageable.
And everyone has the same alcohol tolerance and baseline self control as you, amirite?

>how the bar is a douche bag. This proves what?
That the people distributing the poison have incentive to NOT cut people off before they become a danger to themselves or others. And trusting a bar is about as smart as trusting a cigarette company.
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>>32249716
You realize one of the systems of severe alcohol withdraw is seizures and possibly death right? You can't go from being an alcoholic to clean instantly or you can actually die. Its actually a fairly dangerous drug considering how easy it is to acquire
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>>32250940
>systems
symptoms*
oops
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>>32250919
>Would of never held up if it made it to court
Given the amount it was settled for you know that's bullshit
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>>32250916
Yes, much better that people are turned into autonomous drones through alcohol! Alcohol literally makes you dumber.

also,
>implying psychedelics cause schizophrenia
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>>32249475
Legalize them all. Anyone possessed of the sheer stupidity required to die of an overdose deserves exactly what they get.

It's like children who guzzle household chemicals. Oh, yeah, it's a real tragedy that Carsyn got under the sink and chugged a bottle of bleach because it smelled good. I'm sure he was going to grow up to cure cancer. How will the human race survive without this child genius?
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>>32250912
ermmm I hate to burst your bubble but technically people killed people. War is defined as "a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state." A lot of people die in war. But war does not infact kill people. War is just an english word to describe said armed conflicts. Similarly the guns didn't kill the participants.
Do youu believe war crimes are at the fault of war itself not those who literally commit them?
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>>32251044
I believe that guns and alcohol cause greater collateral damage than other weapons might
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>>32251044
I'm saying that even though it is a person's choice to consume alcohol, if they die as a result, the cause of death was them deciding to drink too much alcohol. Claiming that alcohol had nothing to do with the death is as silly as claiming it was 100% the alcohol's fault.
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>>32250924
And everyone has the same alcohol tolerance
nope but again, even a 100 pound girl with a slow metabolism don't go from tipsy to dead. But if you seriously can't handle it don't drink.
self control as you,
How is it alcohols fault some people don't have self control? Next it's peanuts fault people are allergic to them?
>That the people distributing the poison have incentive to NOT cut people off before they become a danger to themselves or others
actually you can lose your liquor license in a lot of countries and sates if you frequently overserve people this is a one off case.
> And trusting a bar is about as smart as trusting a cigarette company.
Agreed, and I don't trust cigarette companies, But I don't blame them that idiots take up smoking, anymore then I thank them for me not smoking.

>>32250940
Then don't become an alcoholic. Not alcohals fault. If you have an addictive personality then maybe its not for you.

>>32250982
No, Many large companies settle for the sake of not being all over the news for it. They probably figured the court case would be a lot of bad news, so they just bought them out. Happens all the time
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>>32251160
alcohal had something to do with it, it was the tool used. It bares 0 responsibility though.
>>32251112
guns not if used properly. Alcohol is not meant to be weaponised soo.
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Speed.
I'm a lazy shit and I need something to make me work.
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>>32251279
>Alcohol is not meant to be weaponised soo.
In all seriousness, nigga what?
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>>32248335
We should not tell poeple what to put in their bodies and let them work out the consequences.

Also weed testing for employment is such bullshit. If you're sober on the job, that's all that matters.
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>>32251353
Seriously, the government should have a website that lists the possible affects of all drugs, chemicals, etc. and just inform the public about the website and the effects. The choice of whether or not to use these chemicals or drugs should, firstly be informed, but secondly not be limited by the government.
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OP implying if marijuana is legalized then what will keep Coca Cola from putting cocaine back in their drinks.
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>>32251328
lol silly injuans Blankets weren't meant to be weaponised either.
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>>32251279
>alcohal had something to do with it, it was the tool used. It bares 0 responsibility though.

Okay, we agree.
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>>32251353
>let's not help prevent ruining lives
uh okay

if you seriously think legalizing hard drugs will solve anything then you must be out of touch with reality
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>>32251449
I'd be okay with this
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What drugs can you overdose on besides Heroine, and alcohol? I'm curious because I've only heard of those two resulting in that, and I'm tired of people bringing that up about the green leaf.
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>>32251353
>>We should not tell poeple what to put in their bodies and let them work out the consequences.
I disagree somewhat. We SHOULD tell them what can happen to their body if they choose to abuse drugs, we SHOULD NOT have laws based on forcing people to conform to those ideas though. Let the businesses and people discourage drug abuse, it works way better than the government can ever hope to. Just look at cigarettes/tobacco usage
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>>32251328
Indians and jews are the same disgusting swarthy Canaanite race they deserved to be exterminated and genocide just like jews the Holohoax never happened but may the young American boy happily trance over the graves of the dead Amerindians and may the young German boy happily trance over the grave of dead jews
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>>32251495
>What drugs can you overdose on besides Heroine, and alcohol?
Almost all opiates
Amphetamines (plus probably all stimulants)
Benzodiazepines
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>>32251582
graves*
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>>32249379
Alcohol is objectively more harmful than any other drug. Ha nothing to do with the fact that it's popular
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nembutal for losers like me who just want to die easily

>hur inb4 feelium tnak
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>>32251486
Will it solve drug abuse?
Fuck no.
Will it create more drug abuse?
Fuck no.
Will it save billions of dollars spent in the war on drugs?
yes
Will it remove a serious culture of violent crime related to the illegal sale of narcotics?
yes
Will it help relieve the overpopulation of our prisons?
yes.

Drug abuse is a health problem, not a criminal one. Prohibition does not work, for anything. Only reason not everyone does heroine is because most people want to stay the fuck away from it.
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>>32251495
Pretty much any of them really. Cannabis is like the only drug that doesn't have any known OD deaths associated with it. It's possible(somewhat unlikely though) to OD on caffeine.
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>>32251457
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Paul_Jordan
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>>32251582
>Indians and jews are the same disgusting swarthy Canaanite
I don't think they have to take that from a Mormon
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>>32251681
Yeah Pentobarbital should be definitely legal.
However you can order it from Chinese labs if you pose as a research. Check out "The Final Exit". The book lists several legit Chinese sources.
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>>32251771
*researcher
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>>32251682
>Will it remove a serious culture of violent crime related to the illegal sale of narcotics?
Speaking as someone in meth country. Most meth heads make the shit for free instead of buying it from some Mexico affiliated dealer.

Most methheads also steal their cooking supplies and their homes are basically time bombs

Creating a legal vehicle to open up highly addictive and socially corrosive substances to a wider audience is not my idea of good move.

Fuck, look at all the deaths caused by drunk drivers and all the health problems caused by 2nd hand smoke.

The problem ISN'T just health problems vs gangs and less health problems. The problem is having the shit be illegal legitimately makes it more unpopular and some drugs that is worth every fucking cent.

Every drug? No, but some it'd be insane to legalize.

Also, having the shit be illegal cuts down on its strength (drug companies can afford to refine their shit better than drug dealers and don't have to worry about fuckers cutting it with other chemicals to make extra cash) which means that people on the shit will be even fucking stupider and harder to get off the shit..

Did I mention people on the shit are stupid and a danger to themselves or others.

And also it there is the actual cost. Money pouring out of communities and into corporations that contribute nothing but poison to society...you know, like what /pol/ thinks big pharma is ALREADY doing, but this would be real
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>>32252070
>Did I mention people on the shit are stupid and a danger to themselves or others

So why not just legalize it and tax it so they all OD or kill each other for it and leave everyone else alone?
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>>32252147
Because they have families and neighbors and friends and colleagues and potentially technical jobs which they could fuck up endangering total strangers including myself.

Also DWIs.
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shrooms
acid
dmt
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>>32248620

After rolling, that shit is definitely not true.

MDMA is something you need to use extremely responsibly to avoid long term damage.
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>>32248494
I'll never understand why people have this mentality about weed.
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>>32252070
if you think more people would do drugs because it is legal.
Then you are presuming they are all idiots anyway. I for one would abstain regardless of legality.
I don't see a problem.
Legalizing every drug is liberty
DOing everydrug is stupid
the purpose of the law is not to shield stupid people from themselves. Even though it is clear they have found ways, to IDK break the law?
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>>32248335
All substances should be leagal - the state has no buisness controling people like this. Fuck up people will fuck up - those that sort their shit out will sort their shit out - regardless of any drugs.
Simple as...
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>>32252070
The best way to keep people from manufacturing it in their homes it to create a legal, safe, supply from a trusted source that is cheaper or at the very least similar in price to the supplies used to make it yourself. If making it in their homes isn't economical they wont risk blowing their ass up to make it themselves. Pharmaceutical companies already make prescription versions of meth.
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>>32252410
>I don't see a problem.
>idiot tries meth because it is legal and he doesn't see the harm
>6 months later idiot is stealing chemicals from my friend's family farm to make the shit for himself
>6 months and 3 days later I'm attending my friend's father's funeral
Sure, no problem, no problem at all

Meth country, they steal all their shit from local farmers because why buy chemicals you can take. Fuck you.
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>>32252426
>32248428
But the gov. should promote good information and regulation like a food substance.
The choise should be with the indervidual.
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>>32252503
>similar in price to the supplies used to make it yourself.
Free? I don't think drug companies will go for that.
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>>32252547
Then lock them up for being theives - not for taking drugs.
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>>32252624
If there's a legal source for something people will almost always prefer it over an illegal source even if the price isn't necessarily lower. People don't like getting involved in illegal things.
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>>32252615
Our job is not to control content but to create context.
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We should outlaw all mind-altering substances including alcohol.
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>>32252813
Does propaganda count as a substance?
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>>32252680
2 problems

1 you are assuming this doesn't already happen

2 you are assuming more people won't become thieves when exposed to meth, which more people will be exposed to by virtue of your proposed legality

You say it's not the drug's fault, but the fact is when you measure the opportunity cost for some drugs, less people are harmed, less freedom infringed, by their illegality.

The job of the law isn't to protect us from ourselves, but it IS to protect us from others, and some drugs just fucking manufacture criminals, meth being one of them.
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>>32248335

Whores. And make it snappy.
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>>32252755
>If there's a legal source for something people will almost always prefer it over an illegal source even if the price isn't necessarily lower. People don't like getting involved in illegal things.
Yeah you can fucking buy the fucking chemicals they are stealing (like the fucking farmers do). Meth breeds criminals, plain and simple.
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>>32252882
Then punish them for stealing.
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>>32250005
>e inebriated person not the alcohol itself. Unless a giant shipping crate full of booze fell on someon

he's probably too buissy riding horse cock to adopt...
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>>32250916

>he thinks psychedelics cause mental illness and schizo
>implying they don't fill you with absolute love and beauty that help you lead a better life and accept your mortality
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>>32252938
Treating the symptoms and not the cause m8.

And also defeats the point of decriminalizing meth to reduce incarceration rates.
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>>32252882
But most people wont steal the chemicals or try to buy it off of the people who are stealing those chemicals they'll prefer to buy it from a shop that sells it legally. If there's no people to buy your backyard meth then you'll probably stop making it eventually.
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>>32253054
Not all meth users steal.
I used to do meth and I didn't steal for it.
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maybe if we keep everything illegal they will eventually disappear and people will stop doing them. it's bound to work eventually
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>>32252845
>paying for sex is illegal unless you film it and then sell it as porn
>America
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>>32250240
Holy Fuck... this world is an ass!

Anyone for change?
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>>32253060
>But most people wont steal the chemicals or try to buy it off of the people who are stealing those chemicals
In areas where those chemicals aren't readily available through theft.

You fucking forget, I live in one of those fucking areas.

Again, fuck you. Most meth users make the shit themselves around here. There is no reason for me to think that trend wouldn't continue, but with more fucking users if you legalized the shit.
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>>32248656
What's stopping you from doing it right now?
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They're illegal for a reason! It's not like pharmaceutical industries synthesize all the hard drugs and give them to anyone over 25 who goes to the doctor and just asks.
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>>32253054
>eventually disappear and people
No, the cause is scum bags not drugs... leagal supply would abate alot of the petty stealing.
Decrimilize is not to reduce incaceration rates but because it is not the right of anyone else to impose themselves on something that is purly personal.

The theft is not purly personal... I know many "druggies" that don't steal, have jobs and function perfictly well in society.

Part of the issue is that society outcasts drug users so they end up in a us and them place and cant reach out and join in most of societys games... few pints after work anon? - na I'm gonna go home and hit the chems - becasue it is not possible to have a pint and a line in public.
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>>32248335
lsd and dmt
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>>32249076
what possible medical reason should ibogain be legal?
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>>32253473
>No, the cause is scum bags not drugs
drugs turn idiots into scumbags

>legal supply would abate a lot of the petty stealing.
I live in meth country, dozens of labs get buster per year in my fucking county alone. And they aren't even that fucking hard to find.

Buying drugs vs stealing the supplies to make the drugs, most people still choose stealing the supplies to make drugs.

Your argument is but they wouldn't do that if it was legal, but buying them is still less of a fucking crime with less risk of getting caught or shot by a redneck and most people still just make the shit themselves.

>Part of the issue is that society outcasts drug users
I don't view that as an issue. I view that as an appropriate response. Have you ever seen a meth head? They're like if people chose to get leprosy.
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>>32248491
That's retarded, just becuase it's natural doesn't mean it's good for you. Goddamn hippy faggot
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>>32248620
>Meth

Not these day's. Methylone, mephedrone and 4-fa are all cheaper and easier to accquire than meth so tehy're a lot more commin in "MDMA"
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>>32253656

Addiction treatment.
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The anti mushroom, you'll get addicted people in this thread are beyond retarded.

Did you know, you can only get "high" from mushrooms like once a week? You could eat triple the amount the next day and not get shit out of it.
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>>32249066
>believe me I've tried

LOL

Seriously, why does /pol/ hate freedom? Shouldn't people be able to make up their own minds about drugs?
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>>32248335
Shrooms should definitely be legal,
bet let's focus on pot for now.
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Lift the ban on fullauto.
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Marijuana has been proven to cause schizophrenia.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2892048

Smoking cannabis increases risk of depression in the case of genetic vulnerability
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111010074853.htm

Study finds brain changes in young marijuana users
http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/health-wellness/2014/04/15/casual-marijuana-use-creates-brain-changes-new-report-shows/X1cN8A7h5pOVJkeYkXTXlJ/story.html

Cannabis use changes the size and shape of sperm, potentially affecting male fertility.
http://sciencealert.com.au/news/20140606-25631.html

Marijuana Use and Risk of Lung Cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846283/

Persistent Cannabis Users Show Neuropsychological Decline from Childhood to Midlife
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/08/22/1206820109.short

Review of the Validity and Significance of Cannabis Withdrawal Syndrome
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleid=177137#SEC6

Cannabis Dependence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_dependence

Cannabis Smoking 'Permanently Lowers IQ'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9426205/Cannabis-smoking-permanently-lowers-IQ.html

Cannabis Use, Abuse, and Dependence
http://www.netce.com/coursecontent.php?courseid=852

The Health Effects of Marijuana
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htm

Long and Short Term Effects of Marijuana Use
http://www.theroadout.org/drug_information/marijuana/long_and_short_term_effects_of_marijuana_use.html

Marijuana
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Marijuana

Marijuana May Cause Heart Problems in Young Adults
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/marijuana-may-cause-heart-problems-young-adults-195750879.html#SFmiiCx

Marijuana Said to Trigger Heart Attacks
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/03.02/marijuana.html

Marijuana Smoking Tied to Testicular Cancer
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/us-marijuana-cancer-idUSBRE88A03720120911
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>>32249657
Based reply
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>>32254797
Anyone retarded enough to eat fungus in the wild thinking its shrooms deserves to get hurt. legalizing it will just keep the people who know what they are doing out of jail.
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tess injections/gel all legal.

brb american men would get to alpha brb kikes want the white men under their thumb
brb felony
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>>32258909
You mean inhaling smoke causes cancer? No fucking way.
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>>32248335
Actual freedom.
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>>32258909

lol just saw N.o. 8 - canibis v alcohole while driving... I know there is no debate - canibis while driving will be no where near as bad as alcohole... not even comparible.... a joke.... made by lightweights...
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>>32248335
any drug that is used recreational purposes
>molly
>boomers
>acid
>steroids
>cocaine
im sure there are more
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>>32258884
Lets play a game anon
Lets take americas chosen "Drugs" and lets be honest they're drugs and compare them to marijuana
Alcohol-
Tobacco-
Coffee-
Energy drinks- (I think there might be some bull semen in some of those)
Prescription drugs- (pick one anyone, from anti-depressant to pain killer)
Now take there side effects, and put them side by side marijuana "Supposed" harmful side effects
Now kindly fuckoff back to your lobbying career, because if you're not getting paid to do this...fuck man are you pathetic.
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>>32249657
Couldnt agree more. Its a shame we handle these drugs like they're broken glass, when in reality if handled with some respect they can be invaluable.
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>>32261019
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