Christians of /pol/, let us discuss a trial we all face: how do we manage hate?
I find myself every day trying harder and harder to not hate. I disdain and hate evil, and the works done in evil, but I try to never forget the personhood of even people who delight in the most evil of things.
And yet, every day it is like people invent new ways to be horrible. New acts that, when you think about it, become horrific simply because of the ingenuity and effort put in to find that new low.
How have you overcome this in your personal lives?
>>32105108 well if you religious fuckstains did not support fucking Republicans whose policies cause hate through oppressing the poor and catering to the fucking wealthy maybe you would not be getting eat up from the inside out. now please go and die in a expedient manor.
>>32110320 The nature of forgiveness is understanding truth. To want to be forgiven, you must first accept that you did something wrong, and to do that you must first understand the nature of human virtue.
you are not supposed to hate but in the core of christian religion is hatred so thats your problem
most christians are hateful even those who greatly fool themselves. every one of you in this thread are hateful, you can see it from a mile. you just fool yourselves. example is this guy who lifts just to forget about all the scum he hates
the only way to overcome the hate is to face your pride and hatred and love other people. dont take yourselves too seriously for a first step, people do that very often
I've learned to realize that everyone will have to come face to face with their actions in the end. I've stopped hating and just feel pity for people now. They've ruined themselves and their own lives and only they will have to answer for it.
>>32110474 Did I say a real Christian would run away? A real christian would love the feminists and Jews who hate him, and accept his persecution knowing that heaven awaits. There would be no violence or hatred from true followers of Christ.
>>32110613 This is why I reach out so much. The hatred is overwhelming not because of what they do, but knowing they will have to face it. I don't want them to do that to themselves, and it burns me to know that they don't care. They walk into the maw willingly, and the hatred turns to saddness, and I ask if there was something I could have done.
>>32110702 I understand. I try to make myself available to help for those who truley desire to become better people. I've learned the hard way that I can't waste energy or resources on people who don't want to face their evil ways. I call it the "time to dust my sandals" moment. Christ was more than willing to help those who looked for it, and knew how to walk away when people were only trying to bring him into their own evil.
When I feel that way I just reread the Gospel. It helps me every time and some passages I'm able to understand more clearly.
As she drove a friend home to the township of Guguletu, outside Cape Town, on August 25, 1993, a black mob pulled her from the car and stabbed and stoned her to death.
According to Rex van Schalkwyk, in his 1998 book One Miracle is Not Enough: "Supporters of the three men accused of murdering [her] … burst out laughing in the public gallery of the Supreme Court today when a witness told how the battered woman groaned in pain."
Four people were convicted of killing her.:17–18 In 1998, all were pardoned by South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission when they stated that their actions had been politically motivated.:71
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“ The most important vehicle of reconciliation is open and honest dialogue ... we are here to reconcile a human life which was taken without an opportunity for dialogue. When we are finished with this process we must move forward with linked arms
I wonder what enormous blindspot they have in their perception where they would allow all and every kind of depravity on this board and this site but get so Raged by people of a religious disposition exalting virtues.
I think a huge one is that, it can illuminate inequity in the self like almost nothing else can.
If you see someone being virtuous, it turns in you the reflection of virtues you lack. It's easy to lie to others, but it is a bit trickier to lie to the self. The only way to keep doing what you are doing, is to destroy what is good. If you can do that, then you won't feel bad anymore, because there is no good or bad, you destroyed it.
>>32105108 Also remember, satan will tempt you to act upon your hatred of those who dwell in sin, he wants you to sacrifice your salvation for a dying world, are you so ready to do so? Will you so callously give up your salvation for the world? Love god, and have contentment for worldly things.
>>32111334 >implying there is a heaven >implying people who try to go to heaven won't simply be reincarnated in the material world due to their failure to achieve true spirituality >implying that the people who manage to liberate their spiritual selves from the bondage of the physical world won't be freed from all creation and instead exist in a place without name or purpose
>>32111659 I was being sarcastic, I was responding to the wrong post. The claim that everything is subjective is self-defeating. Pretty much every important thinker in history has shown that one way or another.
>>32111653 Here's the thing. There are many groups that would kill me for my belief that Jesus is God, and the only God, and the only way to get to heaven is through Him. Islam, of course, but also the catholics, and the Jews, and any satanists I might come across.
It doesn't matter to me. I don't fear any of them. Truly, greater is He Who is in me, than he who is in the world.
Get used to being hated, if you want to be a real disciple of Jesus Christ. Not only did they crucify Jesus, but they hunted and killed His disciples, too.
Relish being hated by this evil, sick and depraved world, knowing that Jesus will set all things right, and soon.
Rejoice if your name is in the Lamb's Book of Life!
>>32111721 The bible is an odd book, and not readily open to understanding to dead people. When dead people read the bible, they come away with all sorts of weird ideas, like Jesus is a liberal, or a hippie, or a socialist.
If you hate, you're not following Christ's teaching. If you hoard wealth, you're not following Christ's teaching. If you interpret Christ's teachings with semantics and yet believe the literal meaning of the old testament, you are not a christian.
>>32111653 >Most scholars agree that Jesus was a Jewish rabbi from Galilee who preached his message orally, >A typical Jew in Jesus' time had only one name, sometimes supplemented with the father's name or the individual's hometown. Thus, in the New Testament, Jesus is referred to as "Jesus of Nazareth"[f]
>>32111908 >>Most scholars agree that Jesus was a Jewish rabbi from Galilee who preached his message orally, In other words >>Most scholars agree that Jesus (so far as he was man was the man he is claimed to be in the Gospels
>>32111902 Yes. Jesus is Life; if you do not have Jesus living inside of you, you are nothing but a walking dead man.
When you become a christian, the Holy Spirit of God enters into you, and gives you life. That is the second birth; the birth of the spirit we mean when we say "born again".
If you're born again, you will never die the second death; if you are never born again, you were born a sinner, went through your life a walking dead man, and are headed to the second death we call hell, the lake of fire.
You can avoid that by changing your beliefs to properly reflect reality.
>>32111904 Every single christian was actually right. Jesus is coming soon, and told us to live in that expectation. For all of those christians who are dead, they drew their last breath here on earth, and then were taken to Jesus, to be with Him forever.
I'm not surprised you can't see the signs being delivered these days; you have closed your eyes, and are stumbling about in the darkness.
You are what the bible terms a "scoffer", saying that because Jesus is taking so long to come back (two days) that He isn't coming back at all.
>around for less than a thousand years >paganism was reportedly still practiced a couple of hundred years ago Ancestors my ass, it was brought here with force. Christianity represents foreign oppression to me.
>>32112181 They do, actually, in the twinkling of an eye, right before the rapture. Maybe a nanosecond before I go, they go.
There will be no living human beings on earth after the rapture, just dead men walking, 144,000 evangelical Hebrews, and two prophets speaking and doing wonders in Jerusalem.
If you want to become a christian now, do it.
If you want to become a christian after you have seen all these things come to pass with your own eyes, you will likely be beheaded for it, assuming you have the balls to be a christian in the Antichrist's world.
And even then, you'll be earthbound, while I and my brothers are living in the New Jerusalem, high in the heavens.
My friend, I put it to you that Jesus would judge me well. I don't crow my life or wear it on my sleeve, I don't judge other people and I don't speak in the name of deity. Do you really believe you have a ticket to heaven? Have you followed the basic tenet of Jesus' teaching?
>>32112236 Not really. You kids with your 10 part world and your 10 kings, 3 of which will be taken over by the Antichrist, will have all the fun here on earth you want, once all the christians are gone.
Christians are literally the best people on earth; once we're gone, and the Restrainer is gone, well, be careful what you wish for!
I don't know OP, I see the bullshit and injustice around me all the time but I can't judge lest I be judged, I can't administer justice because God is the only one who delivers justice. So to sinners, I can only say they're wrong because this and that and if they don't listen to me I'm to shake the dust off my feet and leave.
I don't know, sometimes I think I should just take care of my soul and just stop trying after pointing out something and being ignored. Then sometimes I think of that Johnny Cash song you can run on for a long time, but sooner or later God'll cut you down and feel better.
Fucking retarded faggots. I swear this must be a fucking joke, or paid shills.
Why can't you annoy fucking christians piss the fuck off already? God damn it, this is a politics board, not your fucking illusion hug box for your magical sky fairy. These threads make me wish muslims and jews would fucking exterminate you guys. There are so many of these fucking worthless spammed threads they've turned me fucking atheist. Fucking worthless, shit eating retards. Every single of you god damn morons.
>>32112461 Not him but pagan gods are bros compared to the Christian god
>The Goddess Eostre >doesn't give a fuck what you do or how you live >just makes people, animals, and plants fertile >never hurts anyone
>The Christian God >throws a fit when people disobey him >kills innocents who did nothing wrong other than being ignorant >curse every man in history for the actions of two people thousands of years ago >condemns people to hell for following the desires he gave them
>>32113017 I agree that the Christian doctrine of repressing negative motions is unhealthy. Not only that but it is a form of dishonesty. It is much more honest and mentally healthy to recognize and accept your feelings than to pretend they don't exist.
>itt: wealth-hoarding church worshippers putting words into Christ's mouth
Churchers are the worst. They think that all they need to do is believe in Jesus and pray for forgiveness and you've got the hot seat in heaven. Yet the true object of their worship is MAMMON. And worst of all, these are the people who deign to judge others in the name of Jesus.
>>32105108 Hate the sin, not the sinner. Always forgive, never forget. Don't ever let yourself or you family be victims of evil. Bad company ruins good character. Be in this world but not of it. Try to save your fellow man from temptations. Lead by example, not by hypocrisy.
It doesn't, but this is what many christians actually believe. They believe that "oh wow I'm human and whoops I sin" and that begging for forgiveness aka praying is all that's needed. Where are the good works?
>>32113105 Jesus is the True God but he is not the creator. Jesus is perfect and would not create an imperfect world full of evil and cruelty. The creator of the world and it's people was imperfect and thus so are his creations. Jesus came to show us a way to escape the flawed world of the craftsman and join him in perfection.
The Jesus you worship as the creator is a fabrication, albeit a popular. If you have felt the true glory of Jesus then you should know in your heart that this world is not of his design.
>>32113318 In the trinity all 3 existed simultaneously as the unified godhead. They have specific roles. Holy spirit is the very essence of goodness & justice (I think, I'm still trying to figure it out) The Father, Yahweh is in His place doing idek what The Son, Jesus, came down in the flesh to walk amongst men and spread the truth of his salvation
Jesus is a false idol conveniently rewritten as synonymous with the Father as a technicality, to get around the fact that several commandments are being broken by christians:
>I am the Lord thy God Said the Lord, fairly unequivocal. >Thou shalt have no other gods before me Worshipping Jesus is doing this. >Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image Worshipping the crucifix.
>>32113453 Okay, Satan. Whatever you say. Oh, wait, no, you're the Father of Lies; who in their right mind would listen to you?
Colossians 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
Revelation 4:11 “You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created.”
>>32113453 God (all 3) created creation. At first it was good, but then evil perverted it and things went to shit. Apparently His angels had freewill too and some chose to rebel, others chose to obey. I view it more like not a mistake made in His part but more of what needed to be done for ultimate true salvation to come to us. True faith & love comes from belief, not from being irrefutably proven, and that's what this is all about (funny how some atheists can't come to terms with this concept). I think it will be too late when the end of times comes around and God's wrath is irrefutable.
I think God is a real asshole and just created people to be a prick to them. Satan thought that this was retarded and wants us to be happy. Many wars are fought in the name of God, many people suffer from his creation. Hail Satan, I say. 3:)
Real Christians don't have any money, since they've given it to the poor, they've left their families behind and chosen not to marry, and walk around barefoot preaching love with their actions more than their words
I don't think there has ever been a christian since Jesus, though.
>>32113656 Your first 2 points are invalid since Jesus God the Son & Yahweh God the Father are 2 of the 3 (3rd being Holy Spirit) in the Trinity. The last point... I suppose it's open to interpretation. We don't worship the crucifix as God, we use it as a means of relating it to God (Pass by reference, not by value huehue). Always worshiping God over any created object. The Catholics... idk they kind've went wild with the idea.
>>32113439 if a person approaches God in an act of contrition, of genuine sorrow for their sins - then you shouldn't doubt that God will forgive them. The Lord steadfastly refuses limits to His mercy. Also I'd like to throw in that the sacrament of confession is much more preferable to personal confessions to God, but that the essential element of being forgiven by God is a contrite heart
We have all these ideas about the saving faith, whether faith or works, or whether faith and works, whether works are the natural extension of the true faith, or a million other ideas on salvation, but when it comes down to it, none of us truly know whether we're saved until we've died.
This is why all these theological discussions don't matter in the end. Follow the commandments of Jesus Christ and love your neighbor and enemy as yourself, live your life as a good man filled with the love of God and your brothers and sisters and leave the rest to God
The revelations literalists are an interesting cult. They've created this death-cult where they get to go to heaven without dying, and the world is going to end soon so just trash the joint. It's truly the most wicked manifestation of modern entitlement.
>>32113715 The bible is the work of men not Jesus. >>32113760 The True God would not be so incompetent. A creation of the perfect True God could not be perverted. Such a thing could only befall the creation of an imperfect being such as the craftsman.
>>32114018 We aren't imperfect. We are exaclty what God intended us to be: beings that had the option to reject him. Without that option, us obeying him what have as much meaning as if you wrote a story where you were the coolest guy every with a flamethrower that came out of your arm and everyone did whatever you said.
>>32113864 Thats the aim of the game. We are all sinners, Christians of all people accept that and we know for a fact (Christians) that Jesus was and is the only Man to ever live without sin. With that said, if we were judged we'd all fall short of redemption without the grace of God's salvation. Live in fear of the Lord your God. For the record, the Day of Judgement will be the day the sinners cower in fear and the believers rejoice for the cleansing of the evil in this world and joining God to live as his children in His presence.
>>32113950 Maybe read (and believe) the bible, for once.
Matt. 7:7-8 says that everyone who asks, receives. Romans 10:13 agrees. And Ephesians 1:13-14 says the moment you heard the gospel and believed it, God sealed the Holy Spirit within you as a deposit guaranteeing your inheritance. 2 cor. 1:21-22 confirms this.
Titus 3:4-7 says He didn’t save you because you deserve to be saved, but because of His mercy. And Jesus Himself said what God requires of us is that we believe He sent His Son to die for our sins so we could live in eternity with Him (John 3:16, John 6:28-29, John 6:37-40).
>>32113978 Revelations is coming true before our very eyes, but the concept of a pre-tribulation rapture is absurd. If you call yourself a Christian, you are going to have to face some adversity before the end.
>>32113978 Gee, I wonder where christians got that idea from.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
>>32114018 The bible is a collection of 66 books written by about 40 men over a period of about 1,500 years, and it is inspired by the Holy Spirit of God. Every book of it. Every word of it. Every letter of it.
It was so powerful that even the copies you read today are 99.5% intact, from thousands of years ago.
>>32114201 Your statement is not coherent. All christians all go through adversity in their life. Nobody that is now a christian will go through the Great Tribulation.
tribulations in your life are not the Great Tribulation, and the rapture most definitely precedes the Tribulation.
It's been known since Isaiah.
Isaiah 26:19-21. But your dead will live; their bodies will rise. You who dwell in the dust, wake up and shout for joy. Your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead. Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by. See, the LORD is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins.
>>32114381 Same God. Different covenants. I far prefer the New Covenant in Christ Jesus than the Law, but that's just me. I'd rather be saved, then try to be holy enough to live with God on my own power.
>>32114126 To say that humans or the world is not imperfect is to ignore what is right in front of your eyes. The True God created nothing because he needed nothing and thus has no need for 'meaning'. We were created by the craftsman and thus we suffer from his imperfection. But the True God, who came to us as Jesus, offers us salvation from the imperfect world.
>>32114499 When I said tribulations, that was in reference to the coming calamities needed to bring about the new world order and enthrone the antichrist. The rapture is when all Christians ascend before God sends the great plagues to punish the wicked left on earth.
>>32114735 What I was trying to refer to was the silly "left-behind" kind of rapture where everyone gets to disappear before anything bad happens. The truth is, most people won't even make it to the one world government stage of things, since the plan is to kill off 90% of the people around today.
>>32114872 You would probably benefit from more biblical understanding and knowledge, and less, well, whatever caused your last three posts.
If you think Jesus is going to force His bride to walk through the Great Tribulation, you don't know Enoch, the seventh from Adam, and you don't know why he is important.
And you don't understand Paul's letters to the Thessalonians, and to the Corinthians, and to the Colossians.
The Bible Teaches About a Rapture 1 Thessalonians 4:17 speaks of an event called "the Rapture", Latin "rapio," Greek "harpazo," which means "to catch up, to snatch away, or to take out." "After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever." Paul states that the concept of the Rapture is meant to encourage believers during this Age (1 Thes. 4:18). Other New Testament references on the Rapture are Jn. 14:1-4; I Cor. 15:51-58; and 1 Thes. 4:13-18.
>>32114572 >Same god. Different covenants. >Implying the True God wouldn't get it right the first time. The True God made no covenants. These are covenants with the imperfect craftsman.
>>32114645 Jesus isn't the craftsman. He is the True God come as flesh to lead people away from the untruth of the craftsman. A perfect being could create a world in which decay and death may never enter. These things exist because the creator was imperfect. This creator and Jesus are separate entities.
>>32114995 You have such odd ideas. Maybe you'd benefit from getting in touch with reality a little. There is no evil craftsman from whom we must flee. There is only the Creator, to whom we can be reconciled.
First, I wouldn't stop there. I'd go so far as to say a person who considers themselves a Christian will not know whether they are a disciple of Christ until they've died. There's plenty of "Christians", and fewer disciples. All a man can do is to have a willingness to be seized by the truth that Jesus is Lord and possess the conviction to obey Christ's commands.
But there's plenty of people who say Jesus is Lord, or even think they believe it without understanding what it means to believe it. It's these people who share your opinion, that they're justified by their faith and their actions are henceforward meaningless, that can die, assured of themselves, and then meet the Lord when says to them Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.
You better think long and hard on what it really means to be a disciple of Jesus Christ
Matthew 5:4 >You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. Luke 6:26 >But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
>>32115132 Not really, no, as I am one, and you're a catholic.
See, you're a works based religion, never sure of your own salvation, because at least part of it is up to you. And you're a total failure at being God, so part of your salvation, in your own works based ideology, is a complete and utter failure. So if it's up to you to get into heaven, you know that you would fail, and have failed, to do so.
See, the latter part about the drinking of the water, etc., is in regards to tribulation saints. You don't know that, because you don't know how to properly divide the bible. You think you have to give a child a drink of water to get into heaven. But you don't live in the Tribulation age, yet. You will, but not yet. You are still in the Age of the Church.
And you think I'm speaking of the catholic church, naturally, which I most certainly am not. The catholic church members are exactly the sorts of people Jesus will tell to get away from Him, as they are workers of iniquity.
No, christians can know that they are saved by having the Holy Spirit inside of them telling them they are saved.
You're running around giving out as many glasses of water as you can.
Because you have completely missed the point of the gospel of Jesus Christ; that salvation is a gift given by God to whoever believes in His Son, Jesus Christ.
Read 1 John, and every day, until you can KNOW that you KNOW that you are saved. Until you KNOW, your salvation is in doubt and Jesus told us to MAKE SURE of our own salvation.
>>32114777 YHWH is the craftsman not the True God and not Jesus. >>32115112 The craftsman is not evil, just imperfect and unaware of his imperfection. And I think reality should be enough to convince you that the creator and the True God are not the same entity.
>>32115314 Indeed, He did quite the opposite, stating that all authority is God's, and from God, and that rebellion against authority is rebellion against God. It should only be done under dire circumstances, where you can be convinced in your heart that God Himself would be involved in that rebellion.
Unfortunately the fuck you I got mine mentality is so ingrained in today's entitled that they cannot even imagine untangling it from their mind. So they weave it into their belief, until even a place in heaven is viewed as an entitlement. For if we all lived as Jesus taught, we would already have heaven on Earth.
It's funny how people like Francis of Assisi or Father Juniper or the Apostles are seen as these bizarre anomalies in Christianity, when they should be the average. But people are too attached to their lives, their money, their worldly goods...they think Jesus set a standard too high...
"For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light." - Jesus
>>32116053 how can a person know if they're saved when people are capable of lying to themselves? you say you believe. do you? really? are you so certain that works are dead, rather than the extension of faith? do you love God? you neighbor and enemy as yourself?
do you see how impossible it is to answer these questions? who can be the judge of whether we love God? who can be the judge of whether we love our neighbor? who can be the judge of whether we have faith?
you don't, and the bible doesn't. God alone
work out your salvation in fear and trembling, but not without hope, faith, and love, and the greatest of these is what?
Do you think that somebody like George W. Bush, a devout christian, has a guaranteed place in paradise simply because he believes in Jesus? What about somebody like Bill Gates, also a very rich man, but an athiest?
1 Corinthians 4 So look at Apollos and me as mere servants of Christ who have been put in charge of explaining God’s mysteries. 2 Now, a person who is put in charge as a manager must be faithful. 3 As for me, it matters very little how I might be evaluated by you or by any human authority. I don’t even trust my own judgment on this point. 4 My conscience is clear, but that doesn’t prove I’m right. It is the Lord himself who will examine me and decide.
5 So don’t make judgments about anyone ahead of time—before the Lord returns. For he will bring our darkest secrets to light and will reveal our private motives. Then God will give to each one whatever praise is due.
6 Dear brothers and sisters, I have used Apollos and myself to illustrate what I’ve been saying. If you pay attention to what I have quoted from the Scriptures, you won’t be proud of one of your leaders at the expense of another. 7 For what gives you the right to make such a judgment? What do you have that God hasn’t given you? And if everything you have is from God, why boast as though it were not a gift?
http://biblehub.com/revelation/3-9.htm "I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you."
"who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone" referring to jews, read previous verse.
>>32127245 Can you or anyone else please give me a reason to stay as a traditional Catholic instead of embrace Orthodoxy. I need a better reason than the Pope, because his claim to supremacy has always been half a faith principle in the first place. I can barely take it anymore--I don't want to be mocked and marginal member of my own Church.
>Prominent members of the SSPX, including Lefebvre himself, have, at various times, expressed approval or support for a restoration of an absolutist French monarchy; the Vichy government (1940–1944); and the party of Jean-Marie le Pen.
>On the basis of statements made by Bishop Richard Williamson, the Anti-Defamation League has accused the Society of being "mired in anti-Semitism".
>It was in an SSPX priory, where he had been granted asylum as "an act of charity to a homeless man", that French Nazi collaborator and war criminal Paul Touvier was arrested. On his death, in 1996, a priest of the society publicly offered Requiem Mass for him.
>>32127853 I've never understood how this kind of groups continue to exist. Why does the Church allow them, and then preach completely contradictory beliefs? Do these Bishops have ANY influence in the Vatican? Do the Knights of Malta have any respect anymore.
It just all feels like a reenactment museum that the Church pats on the head, and otherwise ignores. Clearly the Pope doesn't give a shit about actually keeping Catholics in line (unless they're conservative), so why shouldn't I just be a Schismatic?
>>32128118 The bible makes it perfectly clear that we should be centrist and not be pulled with the polar opposites of left and right.
Proverbs 4:27 >Turn not to the right hand nor to the left: remove thy foot from evil.
Deuteronomy 5:32 >Ye shall observe to do therefore as the LORD your God hath commanded you: ye shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left.
Joshua 1:7 >Only be thou strong and very courageous, that thou mayest observe to do according to all the law, which Moses my servant commanded thee: turn not from it to the right hand or to the left, that thou mayest prosper whithersoever thou goest.
Yes, it's perfectly okay to hate deviancy. Yes, it's perfectly okay to hate those who propagate degeneracy but we should also love them and try our best to lead them back into the light.
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