Holy shit you guise i think I just had the best idea ever.
>Increase worlds attention to women being oppressed by Islam in Middle Eastern countries. >Pass new bill to allow thousands of women from these areas immigrate legally, disallowing the 'evil oppressive men' to come in with them. (It's typically male muslims that cause problems anyway) >With western education and without the coercion of ME men, any of them with brains would soon leave Islam
>Western countries now have a surplus of conservative, traditional women >No one dates femicunts with the supply of all dem submissive brown women >Femism and Islam dies in one fell swoop, and western men get a greater choice of women in the process (Do I even need to explain why this is a great thing?)
>>30948109 >implying mudslime men aren't privileged as fuck Sandnigger pls, when was the last time a white male spoke about his wife as an extension of the husband? He'll get most probably publicly lynched by manginas/feminazis.
>>30948104 >the child starts crying >blood is seen coming from his abdomen >shoppers crowd around and try to help him >two seconds later the bomb sewn inside his stomach explodes >violence against Muslims increases >violence from Muslims increases >Britain devolves into a civil war >distant descendant of the Stuarts takes the throne >crusades begin anew >Sunnis crushed beneath the forces of Christianity, Hinduism, Neo-Maoist China, the Kurds, and a loose coalition of Alawite, Druze, and Shia >entirety of MENA becomes New Israel >America's busy arguing about whether otherkin still have a right to less-consensual sex if their animal doesn't rape in the wild
>>30948308 Because Muslims are an oppressed group that only act this way in response to white male cultural domination. If we end the white-supremacist patriarchy, they will be as tolerant and progressive as anyone else.
>>30948158 The real genius of this is it's such an easy sell to leftists, humanitarians and feminists.
''Do you see how oppressed they're being by their culture? I mean, say what you want about the west, the Middle-east is a super-patriarchy! We should remove immigration caps on women coming from those places''
And before you know it, boom. Every man above 6/10 on the desirability scale gets a harem. Betafags are still fucked tho, these are ME women, not SE-asian.
>>30948308 Because it's too much work. Leftists don't really care about the things they claim to strive to improve, they only seek an egoistical positive feedback from feeling like they've done some good in world. Posting a tweet with a hastag is easy, free and has little to no consequence to it. Going out to the Middle East and trying to bring things into the 21st century is costly, hard and dangerous (Amanda Lindhout).
It's a simply a matter of costs vs benefits. Railing against white men is easy, Muslims not so much.
The difference is, if a Catholic woman chooses not to be a nun and doesn't wear the habit, we Catholic men don't throw acid in her face or beat her with a rosary. Also, most nuns these days don't wear the full, old-fashioned habit.
Being a nun is a profession whereas being a Muslim is something that one is (in almost all cases) born into. Ordinary Catholic women may wear whatever they wish, whereas all Muslim women must wear hijabs or burkhas.
The veil itself is not particularly oppressive, although it could be uncomfortable or awkward. The real problem is what it represents: The lack of choice. It symbolises the fact that they cannot take it off in because they do not have ownership of themselves.
>>30947969 The nun made the choice to join an institution where that is the uniform and she could leave if she wanted, though the institution would take it poorly they wouldn't physically try to stop her.
the muzzie was born into it, so she had no choice. If she tried to leave she'd get stoned or have acid thrown at her, and even after she escapes she still has to be wary of honor killings if she's found out to be an ex-muzzie
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.
>a lot of people say they converted after reading the Qur'an, how it is very poetic and a source of wisdom >start reading the Qur'an (English translation) >It's poorly comprehensible, poorly organized, and seems to be more an affirmation to those who already believe, instead of calling to those who are unbelievers
>>30950965 One helps his development, the other is indoctrination and pure poison that'll doom him. Islam is poison. >>30951003 Islam only has solutions for the virginity of five-year-old girls. Islam is poison. >>30951005 Translation?
>>30951372 >>30951425 You write like a fucking retard, Ahmed. Anyway, your "prophet" fucked a nine year old. While the pedophiles in the Catholic Church are slowly but surely getting their comeuppance and everyone is disgusted by them, you practically worship a pedophile monster. That's the difference.
>>30951615 Almost every religion worships a mass murderer/rapist/pedophile. It's not exclusive to Islam. It's just that Christians have a higher IQ and are thus more civilized, meaning they cherrypick the nicer parts of the bible. Most muslims are low IQ savages so they just use all parts.
ITT: people who haven't read the Quran It's a religion of peace. It literally says that if you kill someone for any reason, and god hasn't told you to do so, you will go to hell. All the problems with Islam is people making up bullshit laws for the religion rather than just reading the fucking book. Christians did the same and its how the crusades were started. You all claim to be somewhat red pilled, yet you still are so conditioned by the mainstream media that you make conclusions based off of what you've seen before without doing any research. What a joke.
>inb4 bullshit insults with no argument >inb4 people butthurt because they're ignorant >inb4 hadiths count as Quran.
>>30950976 >"muh" Palestinians Another Muslim calling a bunch of murderers white knights Do they actually watch the news when it comes to Gaza? Even VICE went to Gaza and talked how much a shithole that place is
>>30951781 The Quran contradicts itself constantly, as do most religious books. The people using the religion just cherry pick the parts they like to fit their emotional impulse in the moment. Muslims are more violent naturally (and by nurture as well) so they use more of the violent parts.
Reading the later parts of the Quran if you want to see how "peaceful" it is.
>>30951856 Muslims love the idea that a handful of whites have converted to Islam. They parade them around, give them expensive gifts and treat them like kings. They recognise their betters, and think it's a tremendous honour if one of their betters accepts their religion. Related: a practically unknown local politician in the Netherlands who worked for Geert Wilders for a while and then converted to Islam (shortly before being convicted of arms trafficking and drugs trafficking and being accused of sleeping with 18-year-old rent boys). Here he is receiving a special copy of the Quran from the Imam of the Grand Mosque of Mecca.
Qur'an 4:56 Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.
>>30951316 >Poland accomplishing more during crusades than the Holy Roman Empire. >Poland accomplishing more than Germans. >Poland >Accomplishing Poland can feel free to knock some sense into Kebabs now. Please.
>>30951969 Yep. They go to hell for not believing. Its a fundamental part most religions and has nothing to do with you because it supposedly happens after you die. That is completely out of context and would not affect anything happening in the world today because it wouldn't happen in this lifetime. How are you that dumb to not put two and two together.
It's more that people can read anything in the Quran (or for that matter, any religious book) they want to, being it messages of peace or of violence.
The vast majority of muslims are sensible people luckily, so they read the messages of love and peace, but sadly, there will always be people justifying their violence with something they claim some religion says.
>>30951824 I don't see how the place being a shithole is proof that Palestinians defending themselves are considered little more than terrorists and results in their homes being bulldozed. In the west bank, it results in it being bulldozed for jews, to boot.
A muslim girl is often expected to cover herself under threat of ridicule/violence whereas a monk/nun willingly undertakes a greater ecclesiastical task, essentially sacrificing their life for the faith.
Not that I have anything against Muslims covering themselves.
>>30951971 EVERY SINGLE ONEIS OUT OF CONTEXT DIPSHIT. Read the Quran. It says if you kill/cause harm to anyone without a vision from god first, you will go to hell. Those arent telling you to kill anyone if you read the whole book. It will make perfect sense. >>30952005 Half black half white. >>30952071 It even says the first chapter that people will take the message the wrong way and fuck over the religion as a whole because they are extreme and violent. Ill try to find it.
>>30952122 >Ignorance Just stop man. Your'e not "redpilled". This whole thread proves that. You guys really still just listen to the mainstream media. Do some research and stop being a faggot who argues over subjects they only know about through tv and the news. Because the places you supposedly hate the most are the only places you've ever gotten information about islam. And you suck that info up and take it to heart like the little brainwashed conditioned faggot you are.
>>30952115 >Even "moderates" continue to blame Israel for their lives sucking. When in fact it's their sharia law making their lives miserable. Not supporting Sharia, mind you, but it IS Israel that puts most Muslim countries at odds with the U.S., not only through false-flag attacks, but also with political policy.
Look at Syria, right now. they've never attacked the U.S., but the U.S. is giving weapons and aid to Al Qaeda terrorists in order to have them destabilize the country. I wonder who could be behind THAT?...
>>30952179 But it is out of context. You know, books have context clues. You cant take a part out of harry potter and completely fucking understand it. Your'e just trying to disprove islam so bad that your'e not using logic. >>30952209 Ok. What your point. Your'e backing up what i just said but your'e too dumb to see it. Please don't make me spoonfeed you either because then id know for sure you just don't have good logic/reasoning skills.
>>30952246 Vice is mainstream to an extent. Not a kebab/sandnigger. I just don't get why theres such a need to disprove islam when clearly the same thing that happened to christianity happened to islam: people fucked with the main book and main beliefs just to benefit themselves. Everyone adits that with christianity, but with islam its just : ohh those crazy sandniggers again
>>30952262 It says: "In Zionist scum will burn in the fire of hell, like dogs! In die horrible death at the hands of the choice of God for your forgiveness Pleads in the eyes of God! But he will not give it abandoned the teachings of the Prophet, peace be upon him and Mohammad !!!"
>>30952367 THATS NOT IN THE FUCKING QURAN YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT FAGGOTS. ITS THE GODDAMN MADE UP HADITHS THAT FUCK EVERYTHING UP. JESUS IS STILL SAVIOR IN THE ISLAM RELIGON. ITS THE FUFU LITTLE HADITH STORIES AND ACCOUNTS OF MUHAMMED THAT HAD TO FUCK IT UP FOR EVERYONE.
>>30952354 Look at mainstream feminism bro. There is much more anti-Christian feelings. Feminists don't say shit against islam( even though it treats women like animals) because of fears of being called islamaphobic.
Oh but it's not just hell. Muslims believe that our skins will be burnt off and then replaced over and over again to make sure we suffer. Anybody who believes in this, and reveres a god who enables it is pretty much evil. Even the worst of dictators on earth, Hitler, Mao, whatever only tortured and killed their victims once. Muslims get to do it for eternity!!! How peaceful of them!!!!!
While I agree, that image attacks the worst of muslims, which isn't really fair.
Instead of finding evil/violent Muslims (there are evil people of any religion) find evil texts from the Qur'an and showcase them. Then you can watch as the religious hide behind their ridiculous 'context' argument.
>>30952443 Jesus is savior in islam. The second coming of jesus is still believed. >>30952447 Nope its the same reason were on here. Because of fucked up leaders. >>30952469 Im not really mad, stop being a faggot. >>30952471 Yupp. Go complain to christians too buddy. Thats religon. It doesn't say this about fucking with you while your'e still living. They were coolin till the christians decided to fuck with them. >>30952475 Lol not even a sandnigger >>30952484 Read the book. The book builds upon itself the whole time. Verses allude to the verses before them. >>30952517 Lol
>>30952541 >?? ???? ! ??? ???? ???? ?? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ! ??? ????? ????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ?? ????? ????? ??? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ?????? ? ???????? ? ?????? ???? ??? ??? ???? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??? ?? ???? ??? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ?????? ???? ????? ! ???? ???? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?? ???? ?? ???? ! >O Allah! Muhammad loved as much as I want to anal sex with him! As a good Muslim, I understand that Muhammad should be waiting for his turn, so I can have sex with dogs, pigs and monkeys that less is more attractive than clean Muhammad, but I will not comply with this right after I did that anal sex with a gay Jewish friend! Mature urinating God be upon you poo in the mouth of Muhammad 10/10
>>30952554 Was that on always sunny? Pretty sure it was on the wrestling episode. >>30952563 Not even trippin >>30952628 Nope. Swcond coming of jesus. Muhammed is just a prophet. Taqiyya isnt shit. Did you see that shit in the quran? No. Its just made up bullshit made by faggoty fucking people who are fuckin with gods words. >>30952646 Uhh yeah man. To understand a book fully you have to read it. Thats how books work. Shit you don't know the perils clifford went through if you don't read the start. >>30952655 Yeah i agree that its a cunt move to do that to people, but i dont know gods agenda. If you dont like it, rule in hell for a while and be a satanist. >>30952711 Nope. It says you can make it into heaven if you are of any religion. It even mocks jews and christians who tell people they cant go to heaven because of certain rules they break. It points out the hypocrisy thats goes on.
What's the point of a book being the word of god if it can be interpreted in a jazillion different ways???? If god was truly almighty he'd make a book that had no room for interpretation. But he didn't. Because he doesn't exist.
>>30953019 They only fucking changed the religion to "all of humanity" when it turned out that the conquered peoples of Persia and the Levant were treated as second class citizens even when they converted. Allah's will is not final.
>>30953077 Fuck, even us Christians consider Judaism to be the first monotheistic religion. We consider ourselves to be an evolution split-off from the evil kikes that nailed Christ and still exist today, not that Christ was explicitly labeled as our savior since Adumb and Eveil.
>>30952861 Not brainwashed. He is supposed to be inconcievible. So im just sayin that i dont know his plan, so fuck it. Its clear all he wants is for us is to sit around, eat and fuck all day and just stop being mean to eachother. So why fuck with a good thing? >>30952878 If your'e referring to muhammed fucking a nine year old then your are just trying to steer the argument away from the quran and into all the faggot ass Hadith bullshit. It never says its even permissible to fuck a kid. >>30952889 No faggot, it doesn't say that in the Quran. Its just more bullshit people added. Im not a sandnigger. >>30952891 It cant be interpreted a lot of different ways. Its clear from the start. Its just people adding hadiths and people adding rules and shit. Its all up to faith so theres o point arguing wether hes real. >>30952895 Fuck em. The quran didn't tell me to read it. Its not even divine word. Its just added on. >>30952917 Nope. Its fucking added on. What do you not get. The quran doesnt even address jesus any differently. It never says he isnt savior. Its only people who have said that. To truely find out, youd have to get the oldest copy of the bible and read it. >>30952921 Nope. You haven't. Not even gonna bring up old posts you made to argue that. They can look for themselves and put the pieces together.
>Nope. You haven't. Not even gonna bring up old posts you made to argue that. They can look for themselves and put the pieces together.
First of all, that was my first post in this thread.
Secondly, you are so arrogant and blinded that you cannot possibly comprehend that your Qur'an might be fallible. Whenever it speaks of the People of Scripture (Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians), it states that they are blinded and unbelievers, because they reject the 'evidence' of God (even though they had no reason to believe Muhammad, just as much as anyone has reason to believe them when they produce their Holy Books as evidence).
It even commands muslims to produce evidence for their beliefs, when the muslims themselves cannot do so either.
>>30953344 Wanna know why Zoroastrians are in there? It's because Mohammed wanted the sandniggers to get along with the other monotheistic religions to eliminate polytheism. Then Mohammed massacred the Jews of Medina.
>>30953193 >Fuck em. The quran didn't tell me to read it. Its not even divine word. Its just added on. So you're a basement Muslim. You actually don't mingle with other Muslims. You are in your own bubble where you think you truly understand Islam. And all other Muslims don't. There's a word for that kind of behavior/thought. I won't say it.
>>30953285 It is. The bible was being fucked with and changed. It says in the quran. >>30953311 Even wikipedia says it fabricated. Its a rumor. Also part of the Hadith which is bullshit. Also >i dont believe jesus was Muslim i believe he was christian as the quran says >I believe Adam didn't know much about religion because there was no reason for religion to be formed. As the quran says. >>30953314 I dont fucking know man. It pisses me off. Its the same concept as a lot of things in christianity and Catholicism. Just bullshit people make up usually to benefit leaders. >>30953343 Yupp. God didnt tell anyone to make it. >>30953344 It wasn't your first post. Hahaahhaha wow you are ignorant. It actually states that they are readers of the scripture and that if they belive in allah and the day of judgement that they will make it to heaven. Its in the first chapter. Hahaahahah oh shit, im dyin, you ought you were smart ahahahahah.
>>30953622 >It says in the Qu'ran >My magical book said your magical book is wrong! Holy shit, if you want to actually try and prove something, get some external sources. Last I checked, Christianity was the religion of your colonizers.
>>30953622 More Taqiyya. Those verses were well documented by Islamic historians, and were mentioned in the Hadith. They were removed from the Quran so you dumb sandniggers wouldn't notice the difference.
>>30953635 The hadiths are one hell of a ride. It's like a talmud, but even more retarded, particularly because the Quran out right warned people would try to corrupt scripture by adding more to it but that people shouldn't be fool as the Quran is all you need to follow Allah.
>>30953396 Yeah i would be fucked if i went to a muslim country. >>30953452 Hey man, I'm just saying, we don't know his agenda. But we do know that it was clear that he wanted us to do shit on our own and to be happy. >>30953478 Nope i listen to the Quran. The word of God. I talk to other muslims, and they don't even follow the hadiths. Mostly because we are in america. >>30953580 Yep. But they don't realize that they are directly contradicting the religions main foundation and the book that God told them to write. >>30953680 Nope. Im not saying it as proof, because there already is proof that the bible has been dramatically changed throughout the years.
>>30953622 Then why the fuck do you fuckwits try and convert Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians? If they're already saved, then why are they going to hell for not believing in Islam? Also, once again, your heresy is showing. You Druze or something?
>Hahaahhaha wow you are ignorant. It actually states that they are readers of the scripture and that if they belive in allah and the day of judgement that they will make it to heaven. Its in the first chapter. Hahaahahah oh shit, im dyin, you ought you were smart ahahahahah.
Let's take a look. The verse you are probably referring to is 2:62:
>Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.
Which would be ok, if not for 2:87-88,2:105, and most importantly, 2:109:
>Many of the People of the Scripture wish they could turn you back to disbelief after you have believed, out of envy from themselves [even] after the truth has become clear to them. So pardon and overlook until Allah delivers His command. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent.
Also, you type like a retarded child, which is probably true, since you are a muslim.
>>30953781 If you're going to go for "muh translations" then translations of the Qu'ran make it dramatically changed as well, even moreso since translation from "artistic language" to "dumb language".
If you're going to go for the cherrypicking that happened during the early years of Christianity, it would be very very easy to throw the argument "God didn't tell anyone" around and that God guided the Christians to the version he wanted. On top of that, the pot calling the kettle black, what are hadiths and the other religious texts that have came out since the Qu'ran was made?
>>30953901 Blame the Wahhabist and the USA for funding them. My father used to travel across muzzie land as a contracted guard (protecting VIPs and such) and tells me just 40 years ago the Muslims were far nicer people. Still heathens with odd traditions and asswards values, but nice people. Once the Wahhabist started exporting their bullshit was that things went to hell.
>>30954036 tl;dr they have certain rituals within the Qu'ran that have been done by the Arab pagans for centuries. One of these traditions is pilgrimage to the Kabaa, which was originally a place for all of the diverse polytheistic beliefs of the Arabian peninsula to converge thanks to Mecca's prominence as a trading...mecca.
>>30953739 Just. No. Just stop man. It was not well documented at all. Youd need multiple sources to crosscheck and theyd all have to be the same verses. Stop saying that taqiyya bullshit. Its not the word of God. >>30953813 It never tells you to convert people in the quran. It simply says that troublemakers will be lead away from the religon and that troublemakers will not follow the true word of God and try to add on false laws. >>30953842 Yeah that made no sense. The second verse is just telling you not to fuck with people until god commands. It doesn't even contradict the first verse at all. You contradicted yourself because its saying to NOT convert them. >>30953901 They use false rules and tell them God said so when God never sent a prophet to tell them any of that. >>30953923 You guys are really stupid and trying to hard. Yall are just reading part of my posts so i have to explain things over and over. I, not going for translation errors. People manipulated the bible, there are a lot of missing verses and stories because they were taken out. There are added rules that God never said to add. Same with islam. I said that earlier. Read the fucking thread faggot. Fucking newfags.
>>30954198 Nope. Its faith. But it is said to be the word of God. All that other bullshit is downright made up and they dont even try to make an excuse. Thats the part that makes me mad. The least the niggas could do is lie about it being the word of God. But nope. They just take a shit all over their own religon.
>>30954214 I never said that the Qu'ran told people to convert "heretics". In practice it's happening, though. Are you going to tell me at least 99% of the Muslim world are not true Muslims because they defy the will of God by trying to convert non-Muslims? This shit was going on since the fucking Arab conquests of the Levant and Persia.
>>30954157 Oh my them being nice people or the fact almost all mosques being build around the world are being funded by Wahhabist?
>>30954174 >>30954199 They originated on Saudi Arabia, but has been expanded to other countries (europe, for example) by the constant creation of new mosques to push their insane ideology. To say the Wahhabist are a Saudi Arabia thing is to say the Mormons or the evangelicals are a USA thing.
>>30954250 In their defense, the first few centuries of Islam emphasized reason. These texts came from honest men who thought they were doing the will of God by chronicling Mohammed's life for Muslims to easier understand the man.
>Yeah that made no sense. The second verse is just telling you not to fuck with people until god commands. It doesn't even contradict the first verse at all. You contradicted yourself because its saying to NOT convert them.
It says a lot more than that, although you conveniently chose to ignore it.
>>30954285 >implying Wahhabis aren't seen as heretics and aaren't a minority anywhere else but Saudi Arabia, which is ruled by Wahhabis >implying the Mormons and evangelicals aren't a minority even in the United States Please stop.
>>30954266 Yeah it is happening. I don't get your point. Thats just people wanting to convert other people. >>30954325 I don't see why they couldn't just read the Quran and live life and go fuck some hot arab bitches.
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
there is no god. Muhammad is dead in the ground. you are not going to heaven because there is none. stop wasting your life by following a stupid barbaric book. instead of wondering what some long dead sandy pedo told you god wanted you to do just do things that make you and your loved one happy.
>>30954344 No i didnt. Point it out. You wouldn't be acting like such a fucknigga if you already knew your point. Instead your scrambling for Quran verses on the internet. It did not say anything about the others going to hell for not being muslim. Which is what we were arguing. Case closed. >>30954423 He wants us to take care of our shit. I was a satanist before i became a muslim because i had the same logic. The logic of freewill and becoming your own God. Then i realized that he wanted us to be happy anyway so why fuck with a good thing. If the dude just wanted us to get along, then why fuck with that? >Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Uh nah man, it just means he doesn't want to >Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Nope its up to humans. Stop being a pussy. The recompense will be great. He wants us to live. Whats the point of life on a string. Again, stop being a pussy. >Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Nope he wants us to live and love eachother on our own. >Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” He is able. He doesn't seem willing. Man up. Realize that it was humans that fucked everything up. >>30954502 Not the Quran though. I just proved that it is a book of peace. Notice how no one even is questioning me on that anymore because they now know its true. I fucking wrecked all these niggas. Half the motherfuckers just quit cause they were actin like they read the Quran but theyre tryna get verses online. You should archive this thread to showcase the ignorance of mostwho oppose islam and to prove that /pol/ spits out what they take from mainstream sources, because if they had studied the religion they'd know more than what the tv tells them. Great job /pol/, you guys really showed me there. Apparently mainstream media is bad until it comes to something you are ignorant about. This thread proves that you are all still brainwashed and conditioned by the media.
>No i didnt. Point it out. You wouldn't be acting like such a fucknigga if you already knew your point. Instead your scrambling for Quran verses on the internet. It did not say anything about the others going to hell for not being muslim. Which is what we were arguing. Case closed.
We weren't arguing about that. This was the post i originally made: >>30953344
Herein, i did not say that the Qur'an condemnds them to hell, but i did say that it calls them blinded and unbelievers. I then produced evidence for that (Verse 2:109).
You're an illiterate idiot who does not know his own religion. Case closed.
>>30954832 Man she's so hot sometimes, but other times its like looking at the moon. >>30954899 Yep. So your'e backing up my earlier statement then? That they go to heaven? Because thats all we were arguing about. They mean belief in a different context. So again, out of context. The first verse simply means belief in god and judgement day. The second is talking about belief in religion. Now tell me again, who's an illiterate idiot. Because you can't even decipher context clues. >>30954951 Nah that nigga God fucked up on that one. He can kill satan anyway. He just doesn't. We dont know why, because were human.
>>30954947 >it's ok to fuck children because it was common 1400 years ago Or was it? Maybe in that fucked up part of the world. I don't recall reading about men fucking nine year olds in European history.
why would a perfect god need or want to create satan in the first place? why not create a perfect world? why create souls to live for 80 or so years and then potentially spent eternity in hell? how is that fair? why would you want to do that? does some African guy living in the jungle, who was good and honest all his life deserve to go to hell for eternity because hes never heard of your allah? it doesn't make any sense. at the same time there is conveniently no scientific evidence for there being a god. can you see where im going with this?
>Yep. So your'e backing up my earlier statement then? That they go to heaven? Because thats all we were arguing about
No, we're talking about how they are spoken of in the Qur'an. Even though they are apparently not condemned to hell (although their exact fate is not described), they are still considered vile unbelievers who are to be subjugated.
You shouldn't argue with this many people at the same time, lest you get things mixed up.
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