WHY don't Americans build concrete houses?? >pic very related

>>140514353

Because (((they))) told the americans that a concrete house can't stand a hurricane/tornado, so they should build and rebuild their houses everytime it happens

>>140514353
Muh economy. It's so Jews can extract millions of dollars in mortgage payments over the life of a structure which cost 50k in materials to build.

>>140514353
Concrete houses are vulnerable to earthquakes. In places where there are a lot of earthquakes, wooden houses should be built instead

>>140514792

What about Texas?

http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/world-quakes/index.html

New Orleans has a very low water table. The weight of concrete houses would cause them to sink and become structurally unsound in the neighborhoods surrounding the French Quarter and downtown. The same is true of Florida for the most part.

>>140515096
Let's archive it https://unvis.it/cbc.ca/news2/interactives/world-quakes/index.html

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>>140514353

in 25 years we got two 2 cat5 hurricanes and most of the houses are made of concrete. this is how city looks after the hurricane.

>>140515615

boi, you should teach them how to build walls

>>140515985

(((they))) gonna theach them

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>concrete?

What is that, some sort of ancient mud rock?

>>140514353
Because we're not gay

>>140514353
Why don't Americans build wooden skyscrapers?

>>140514353
Why don't societies undertake a generation of massive building projects and just make houses out of stonehenge level slabs that would last for over a century? I've saw some government housing apartments, that looked sturdy a.f., despite being a bit cramped per household.

Be a heck of a lot better use of money than another damned food stamp/wic/welfare program, or another looming apartment tower full of tiny ass uncomfy apartments that are only going to be torn down in 50 years to make way for a bigger one.
The idea of permanence and ample housing space per household kicks ass.

>>140515096
Texas should have built concrete houses.

Thankfully most illegals live in non-concrete houses and were the most affected by Harvey

It's more eco friendly.
Burgers are more nature self awareness them other countries.

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>>140515615
>mfw Mexico is more advanced than Amerifats

>>140514353
>WHY don't Americans build concrete houses?
Trees are a dime a dozen over here in the US and Canada. You guys had to strip your island to build fleets of ships.

Salt Lake City is all brick homes, it's also built on one of the biggest fault lines in America.

Waiting for the masonryfag tears when that city is razed.

Aren't concrete houses super shitty?

Don't they fall apart during quakes?

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>>140514353
Because I live in a beautiful pic related

>>140514353
they have more people, the demand for houses is high. wood is much easier to build with and easier to come by than the huge amounts of bricks and concrete that would be needed to make every house. plus I guess they don't expect their houses to be destroyed every year, so building out of wood would be the best solution all-round, in quantity, speed, cost, with a small detraction from quality and strength. got to weigh up the advantages and disadvantages as well as feasibility,

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>>140514353
It won't make a difference. The houses are already hurricane rated per building codes.

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>>140514353
They make a point in being heavier than their house. It's a sex thing.

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even the poor people has not much damage with a CAT5. you guys will get CAT4 and all popsicle stick houses gonna fly real high.

>not printing your house out for $10k

Stay pleb.

Concrete houses are way better then wooden. You don't need to worry about fire or water fucking about the wood. The reason why the wood agenda is pushed is because it puts money back in the economy when the houses become shit

>>140515615
That's what Mexico looks like pre-hurricane though.

>>140514353
They have superior insurances

>>140516164
Hey man say what you want about them the Israels know how to build walls to keep pests out (or in.)

What about steel houses? Better or worse than concrete?

I always wondered about that to. Stone houses are as easy to build, and they're much stronger.

>>140517593
>>140517363
>stronger
>better

Really situational.

Wooden frames can handle earthquakes but not fire.

Concrete homes can handle fire, but not earthquakes.

>>140517522
>What about steel houses? Better or worse than concrete?

better or worse is completely dependant on the application / environment the structure is going to be erected. there's going to be advantages and disadvantages to all buildings depending on their location, the weather they need to endure, the cost, the materials that are available etc.

>>140517859
True, the wooden structure is good for earthquake or land movement in general but people build wooden homes even in areas with very stable land

>>140514353
because they are poor

>>140515219
norwanon <3

>>140514353
Because sometimes I want to change the layout of my house. Instead of having to rip down concrete I can just take a hammer and rip a wall down. There you go, open floor house.

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>building materials: $10k
>land value: $540k
>boomers selling the future of their children for temporary gain: Pricless

>>140519086
>$540k
Absolutely disgusting.

>>140514353
Many of the houses in Florida are concrete

The only reason people should be worried here is those on the coast who'll get flooded.

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>>140519086
But Hollywood told me American houses look like this

>>140516656
>build house out of brick
>lasts for hundreds of years
vs
>have to cut down an entire forrest to rebuild homes for thousands of people everytime the wind picks up

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because were not a bunch of commie faggots

>>140519386
don't houses on the coast have a basement? wouldn't that help with flooding? id rather have a flooded basement than the first floor of the house.

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>>140519086
Oh fuck no!! That's fucking silliness. I'm in Middle TN and I got a house with 1 acre plot, and a 2010 sqft house, 3 miles from major interstate and less than 15 minutes drive to Nashville for about the cost of a Pre-owned Mercedes.

Cityfags BTFO!

The same places that get hit with hurricanes are also places with very soft earth. A concrete house wouldn't last very long because it would start to crack.

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>>140514353
>you can't use bricks or concrete goy.
>it's dangerous and unstable and not up to legal code.
>don't forget to pay your HOA

>>140520894
>this area is prone to hurricanes
nigger you are stupid

>>140520894
That area doesn't get hurricanes and is carved out of solid rock
Miami and Houston were both fucking swamps before the were settled. It's not a good comparison.

expensive long lasting houses go against their consumerist culture

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What about geodome houses? The good ones have inner shells made of concrete and they can survive forest fires, tornadoes and earthquakes.

>>140519915
>it is impossible to farm wood

>>140522586
in a forest fire wouldn't it just turn into a huge domed oven, the shell itself might survive, but anyone/thing inside is fucked.

>>140514353
I having lived in New England, Massachusetts, wonder why even with wood buildings, why do people build houses with overhangs in wind prone areas.

Houses in wind, hurricane, tornado prone areas should have no overhang, a Cape Cod Roof.

Also, building heavy structures in a flood plane is retarded. It is almost like you want your house to sink into the earth every year.

>>140515170
Don't you have any bedrock to drive pilings into?

>>140515170
You mean high water table.. The rest is very true

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>>140522586
Straw houses are obviously superior. You can build them from plants in your own backyard and since they're so lightweight you can become nomadic and move whenever theres natural disasters.

>>140515096
There are a lot of brick houses

>>140523104
https://youtu.be/Vqq8-2ereKg?t=1m

>>140523304
>bedrock
>in a swamped out flood plane
Anon, I haven't seen a rock in the swamp in my entire life.

>>140514353
The US is really dumb with building codes.

They want residences to have fire sprinklers which can freeze in the winter yet big businesses can build giant hotels out of wood.

30 years ago a Burger King would have been made out of masonry, now they are fucking made out of wood.

Federal disaster insurance means property can be built on land that would otherwise be unsuitable (i.e. uneconomical) for development.

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>>140523653
That's why you drive pilings idiot.

The rock is deeper.

>>140523104
crack a window open she'll be fine

>>140517401
Exactly ;)

>>140523304
There may be bedrock at some depth.. But it would need to support the entire footer that the wall sits on. If you only did like, lets say, the 4 corners, the middle of the concrete wall would settle and crack.. Or fail altogether.

Because they're too fat to lift it.

>>140523824
>drive piling into muddy soil
>be amazed when it starts to shift
Do you not understand what a swamp is, lad? The ground is not stable and will shift and flow if it becomes saturated enough. We have ancient oak trees that are angled at a 45 because a hurricane blew them over decades ago.

If a fucking tree can't remain stable, why would a house? Why build a concrete house just for it to sink and shift, thus costing more in the long run than a wooden house ever would?

>>140523893
Prefab with steel reinforcement wouldn't crack signifcantly.

>>140524255
Steel is heavy and will sink into the earth.

>>140517859
Are we sure about this? Even after the big 1989 earthquake, all the concrete structures in Berkeley and Oakland that I know about were just fine – parking garages, the university art museum etc. The cypress and embarcadero freeways collapsed but they was old and poorly maintained. Concrete buildings seemed to be OK for the most part, and that was a pretty rough shake.

>>140519742
middle class Americans, the goyim hollywood trys to sell the most to, or did

>>140523590
the flames arn't licking up the side of the building though. still a distance away, i meant if it was surrounded by fire, it would just turn into a big pizza oven

>>140524222
The pilings go into the rock underneath, dolt!

>>140523656
Normally sprinklers in cold weather climates are dry sprinklers meaning they are pressurized with air until a break in the system allows water to fill the pipes . Also, yes, alot of commercial structures like Burger King are cheaply made with heavy roof top loads such as AC units. These are made to burn and we as firefighters let them burn.

>>140524578
Didn't I tell you that we don't have rocks around here? The bedrock you are thinking of is quite a long ways below the swamp.

>>140524255
It would separate enough to have a gaping hole in your wall.

>>140517593
>Stone houses are as easy to build

Not even close. A small crew can throw up the walls for a stick (wooden) house in a day or two. Stone or brick is certainly better, but it takes much longer, requires rarer skills, and is far more expensive. Actual concrete has some other issues with things like cracking and mildew, aside from being more expensive.

>>140519742
A lot of them do. In more rural areas you will find trailer houses like the one in that picture.

The houses in your picture are found in towns amd cities that were thriving around the turn of the 19th to 20th centuries.

>>140523473
We still have much to learn from africa.

>>140514353
You havnt seen how cheap wood is here

>>140514353
Construction dude here.

We can and will build us whatever the fuck you pay us to build.
We can build you a house that could withstand a nuclear blast if you pay us enough.

>>140523304
It's so deep it wouldn't be economical for a residential structure.

>>140516966
sick lincoln logs bro

>>140514792
lol you're an idiot
in guam they're about 90% concrete houses (with iron rebar)
I lived through several very powerful earthquakes and my house didn't even Crack
most of the houses were completely undamaged!
also been through several hurricanes far more powerful than harvey and katrina and none of the windows even cracked

>>140525031
Exactly. It would cost as much as the house itself to bore down 75 ft to 100ft and fill them up with concrete as a footer for the concrete walls. Absolutely retarded idea.

>>140516947
Crumble
>>140516966
Very nice, people would be surprised how affordable these can be

>>140514353
I cant speak for the nation but its is a code in the gulf coast Florida for homes to be build out of cinder blocks.

>>140525026
Fun fact in Europe, building a wood house is more expensive than an all concrete one.

>>140518115
concrete houses are better everywhere
only reason why Americans don't do it is because we have an abundance of wood and our entire building industry is built around wood houses

>>140525675
Interesting.
Some places people here have no choice, but most can build whatever they want.

Some areas they must be stone or cement because of hurricanes, some areas they must be wood or special earthquake -proof construction

>>140525675
Is that due to expensive wood, cheap concrete, or costly regulations?
We have a lot of wood farms in the south, so wood is very cheap across the nation.
>>140525847
>sinking house foundation intensifies

>>140516947
LoL I'm living on 15th floor of a concrete apartment that survived 6.5 magnitude earthquake without cracks. If my building stands still your two story cucksheds won't even scratch at all.

You must be really dumb to rebuild your homes every year.

>>140525617
for hurricane areas only
same for the rest of the country
the problem is when hurricanes surprise surprise hit areas that AREN'T "hurricane areas"

>>140514353
uh we do?

>>140514353
ICF building is getting more popular and it is cheaper now to build with that than typical wood frames.

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>>140516966

i don't want to live in a shitty castle that gets too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter. i can literally not use any AC here and just open and close a few windows to adjust the temperature.

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We do dumbshit
t. Floridian
They don't out-west because even a concrete/brick/cinderblock house would not withstand a Tornado

Also solid materials like that are vulnerable to earthquakes, fucking kys bong

>>140526005
if you're building a house on a shitty foundation you're a fool anyways
there's thousand year old sayings warning against that

also this is the modern world we have ways of strengthening the foundations

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>>140514353
Because abstract ones are kind of useless.

>>140526386
thats what im sayin. its block houses on concrete pads fuckin everywhere in the south where it matters.

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>>140519086
sold, pic related

>>140515170
>The same is true of Florida for the most part.
Major parts of florida are sitting atop an old reef...with dirt etc. Reef rock is very porous and water soluble.....

>>140525934
>>140526005
I think because most builders have been building concrete houses for decades, the lay the moulds and steel skeletons and then buy the concrete from a specialised firm that pours it ( aprox €70 m3 thats cubic metre) and they vibrate it and continue building. Woodworking is very expensive because labor and really few carpenters than have the know how. I have seem videos of americans buillding wood houses and the process is very professional and quick, here is hopeless.

>>140526386
what are you talking about?
brick won't but houses built with Cinderblock and iron rebar reinforcements easily survive tornados and have done so many times

Another issue in warm weather climates such as Florida would be Mold. A modern wood framed home has better moisture barriers. A block wall would sweat and mold would probably become a problem in the wall cavity.

>>140514353
Because in the real world, concrete also falls apart in tornadoes and the flying concrete debris is far more dangerous than wood.

>>140526448
How do you solve the issue of building your foundation on mushy, unstable ground?
>inb4 build somewhere else
So you mean a different state? What great help you are.
How about I keep building my house out of wood and spend money on insurance instead of having to repair a cracking, sinking foundation every decade.

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>>140526141
>my building survived so the others would too

>>140526682
nope
I've lived in concrete houses on tropical islands far more humid than Florida

>>140526386
Masonry houses can survive tornados.

Not every tornado is an EF5.

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>>140514353

>>140526672
>easily survive tornados and have done so many times
not an EF5
literally nothing except bunkers does

>>140527079
technology can solve all problems
even plastic houses are better than wood

stop using wood you neanderthal

>>140526608
Seems like a result of specialization, then. I imagine it would take a good bit of time for a similar concrete build to be completed in America.
Meanwhile woodworking is an extremely common hobby for many people across America, so I see how finding workers can be a lot easier. The DIY culture showing itself, I suppose.

>>140527178
it just depends if they get cars ramming into their house or not
maybe not "easily" but far far better than wood

>>140527040

>>140523473
>>140524960
>yfw Africans really WUZ the most advanced civilization

>>140527323
>paying an arm and a leg just to not build something out of wood
Man, you are dumb. Why not just build a lighter house so you don't sink your foundation like a retard?
Not even to mention the maintenance that would come with such technology.

All for what purpose again?

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You see Ivan, you concrete is unsuperior.
We technology of shipping boxes.
You wind knock over, we stand back up, no damage.
You water flooding, we float, anchor to ground for drift and fine
You give big problem, house fit on truck, drive away.
Is cheap, $1600 America money. Skale for big family to.

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>>140527323
Wood houses can be made better with reinforcements.

But hey!

Lets get the cheapest ass contractor out there who has Paco working for less than minimum wage using an air nailer instead of a hammer missing all the studs.

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Before you continue your bullshit

>Muh muh wood

there are two kinds of wood.

one is actually WOOD and you cant destroy them

see something like this >>140516966


the other one is sawdust glued togethers, absolute garbage shit only to trick amerifats into cheap houses

picrelated

Why not build your house out of shipping Container? They look fucking nice

>>140527781
to avoid your house getting destroyed
>muh insurance
you'll pay more for insurance over the years than you would building a sturdier house
and implying some things don't have sentimental value

>>140528415
My god, a paper house. Can that thing even keep the cold out?

>>140528414
yes they can but I still rather get concrete

Actually, in Florida we build a lot of houses out of concrete.

>>140528537
You realize you will pay 10 times the cost of building a new house trying to get your shit idea to work, right? You aren't the first to think you can beat a swamp with technology.

All of their houses end up sinking in the end. Meanwhile I'm living in a near 100 year old wooden house that has survived many, many hurricanes.

So I ask again, why are you spending an arm and a leg to try and fight off nature? You will lose every time.

>>140521015
>>140521120
>muh hurricanes
Kek. We have 150 km/h winds every winter here. Also this is earthquake area. That's why nobody builds with wood.

>>140527323
Wood, or at least softwood types, is a renewable resource, believe it or not. Plastic is not.

>>140528415
Modern houses are all about cost efficiency while staying to regulations. The developers make bank, that's all they care about. Glued woodchips are cheap, so that's what you get, while concrete and actual plywood is far more expensive.

>>140528650
noh

and when this shit get a little wet, it starts swelling up and rotting, people get astma, get sick etc.

even african mud houses are better

>>140529329
We build people houses like that because they buy them.
If you want a higher quality house pay us to build you one.
It's real simple, see>>140525026

>>140528650
They aren't really designed to keep cold out, but instead keep it in with insulation. These types are usually built for lower income people, so the budget reflects that. Not built for longevity at all.

>>140514353
Actually we do have concrete houses
or atleast in Florida

im starting to think that americans are masochists. they love pay insurances every year to the jew instead of making a solid concrete houses.

>>140530224
>Mexicans in charge of economics of building structures
Explains the poverty, desu.

>>140514353
I don't know, but my house is brick and then cinder block, fuck knows why they build homes like that in those places.

>>140530224
Most Americans don't know their houses are made with shitty materials. Its just business men trying to make a buck.

America is not a country, its a corporation.

>>140529642
So clearly the problem is people buying such paper mache shacks. Why do they?

>>140528415
Those are used for cookie cutter neighborhoods. Cheap and fast and quite shit.

>>140531029
Exactly. You get what you pay for. There are still plenty of people who have a conventional stick built home.

>>140524708
How far?

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>>140530457
It's not "businessmen" trying anything.
Have the house your thinking of buying inspected, or build your own house, get an architect, design it how you want it.

I'm a home builder, these threads are dumb as fuck.

>>140531013
Because you can buy something like this for $12,000, it was around 100 years old. I looked at this house with a re-modeler friend.

Why build one? I don't know, probably again money is the thing

>>140531013
Because they are poor, tired of living in an apartment, and don't want to live in a trailer.
So they go with this instead. Their loss, trailers are comfy as fuck.

concrete matter right now.

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>>140531409
>tired of living in an apartment

This is one big thing, most Americans hate apartments.
Nobody wants to live stacked up in little cubes with all kinds of other people.

Another cheap house, I looked at to remodel , $17,000

>>140531377
Far enough to where parts of new orleans are built on top of the really older parts.
And those places continue to sink regardless.

>>140530457
t. someone who has never looked to buy a house. You get what you pay for.

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>>140524222
I live in a swamp. The whole area used to be a giant cave system but then collapsed and formed a lake. The lake dried leaving a swamp behind. If you jump you literally shake the ground around you.

Guess what they built on this swamp. A fucking railroad. It sits about 5 metres above the swamp on piled up gravel and rocks. To keep the rocks from sinking a whole fucking forest was chopped down to make wooden pilings.

That was over 150 years ago. The wooden pilings are still intact (no air for them to rot) and the railroad is just dandy.

Some parts of the swamp are more than 20 metres deep and they still build houses there. Houses made from bricks and with reinforced concrete. All are piled to the bedrock below. Those that are not sink and everyone laughs at them.

The best part is that this swamp lies on a earthquake prone area too. Doesn't stop anyone from building. Just build a strong house, not only for yourself, but for your children and their children too.

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>>140528665
No argument there.

>>140532322
what the fuck did I just read

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>>140532322
Congratulations? Do you think we don't have railroads, and that there are no brick houses around here?

Fact of the matter is that you can't build heavy houses in certain areas or else they will sink. No amount of anecdotes will change this fact. The houses built on these lands tend to be wood, instead, and end up costing a lot less over their lifetime than other, heavier designs in the same area.

Why is this such a hard thing for some Europeans to understand?

>>140532659
That isn't a swamp.

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>>140533217
Yeah cause beach sand and ocean is so much more stable.

>>140514353
they can't nibble their way through concrete, as they do through cardboard, like the big lazy fat rats they are

>>140533072
Sounds like BS to justify building glorified dog houses and increasing profit margins over all else.

>>140533394
It is a lot more stable than Mississippi silt, anon. Silt that makes up the entirety of the gulf coast. Silt that sits on sand, that sits on clay.

At least do some research before you shitpost. Here this article explains it a bit.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/that-sinking-feeling/

>>140533597
>geographical regions being different is BS
Ok, champ.

>>140516517
because those wouldn't stop planes

>>140533394
Also, that beach has more rocks than you will ever see in the gulf south. It is probably supported by a nice, strong piece of bedrock.

>>140514353
houses in Florida are built out of concrete. Only old homes still have a wood frame.

>>140520164
Florida was originally a swamp, if you dig to build a basement all you get is water and sinkholes

Can't say for the other states

>>140529515
Damn.
For a moment I liked my commieblock. It may be 40 y/o but it's still solid and with good insulation it keeps 25-30C inside during winter.

>>140519086
looks like a mere trailer, whose owner couldn't even afford the gypsie wheels
and seeing as gypsies just are traveling pajeets, this at best is a pajeet den

>>140533072
You didn't read what he wrote at all. We literally have ALL the problems you have in our little country and houses here last several generations. Worst thing that can happen is a broken window or a blown off roof tile. Or there are news once in a while that somebody's house was damaged due to avalanche. And even this usually isn't serious.

You're just searching for excuses for your shitty construction. Americans built their houses with wood when they were settlers because it was cheap and fast and they never changed this habit. Now you're rebuilding the whole fucking house every time a slightly stronger gust of wind appears.

>>140524222
>mudrica!
>mudrica!
>mudrica!

>>140534593
So Slovenia has bedrock thousands of feet below a silty soil built up off of the sediments carried to the Mississippi river delta?

Seems more likely that you two just don't know what your talking about.

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>>140529907
it gets worse, they've stopped using what was traditional insulation in favor of this tyvek 'house wrap' trash. it's literally plactic. its a plastic bag that goes over the sawdust and glue panels and they call it insulation. it's wildly flammable, despite allegedly being flame resistant. and that's literally all that's behind the cheap alunimum siding on the exterior. it's a fucking joke.

tl;dr american homes are made of sawdust, glue, and plastic bags.

>>140534593
Also nice to learn that the Mediterranean Sea gets hurricanes too.

>>140523656
>30 years ago a Burger King would have been made out of masonry, now they are fucking made out of wood.
The actual reason for this is they are made to burn and they can do this because they are surrounded by parking lot on all sides, no trees no other buildings for X feet within state regulations. If they catch fire its cheaper to just shovel away the ashes and build a new one, than it would have been to make it stone in the first place.

>>140535069
That is to cover the shitty sawdust wood so that the weather fucks it up less. Still cheap, though.
As said earlier, you get what you pay for.

>>140517401
It's an improvement, the water washes the blood away

Greater social and physical mobility in the US than in europe (they tend to build ancestral homes and live with their pwrents for a humiliating amount of time) along with an enviornmental factors. Of course you will see posts that say "america is just brainwashed and also it is a habit" as though the US is some magical place where people are different from everywhere else on earth

Did you know the amerifats loves the aesthetics of brick houses, so they'll glue "bricks" to their wood structures or paint bricks on them?

lmao amerifag houses are nigger tier.

Secret recipe for bricks:
>take clay
>put in oven

Kikes have convinced you to not put things in ovens. G-d bless AIPAC.

>>140516672
Then why the fuck won't they stay in their super advanced country? You'd think they'd stop flocking to America...

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>>140514353
>that sign on the house
>glad 0 is there

>>140516966
That is a beautiful cabin anon

>>140535109
We have bora every year and winds over 200 km/h aren't unusual.
>>140535023
My fellow Slovene earlier just said he lives in a swamp area. Are you fucking stupid?

Learn to fucking build houses and you'll see how dumb you sound.

>>140514353

Radon.

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>>140535877
Stay safe Ameribros

>>140535900
All swamps aren't equal, you tard Slovenia also has much shallower bedrock.
You fucks just keep talking out your ass with nothing to back it up.
Tell me, how do you build a stable, large concrete structure when you can't bore into bedrock?

>>140536204
Uh obviously u just put the concrete down that one guy said swamp near his home also i bet its super deep GOD AMERICANS ARE SO DUMB i cant believe this nation of 300 million people doesnt know as much about construction as me, some slovenian guy on 4chan

>>140533963
What rocks?
Not close to the surface.

It is sand, sand, and more sand with marshes behind it.

The bunker was more inland until the tip of the cape was wiped out by a hurricane in the early 60s.

I would never live in those brittle cheap wooden houses like they have in the US.

I bet you can hear any sound 3 rooms away with their fake plywood walls.

How can you live in such cheap housing they dont last 10 years.

Eurofaggots have bricks, stone, armored concrete houses with walls 2-3 feet tick and even in condo you dont hear anything from other rooms/floors.

Brick and concrete houses are there after hundred years with very little mantainance.

Dont be faggots, buy a house made of solid bricks or armored concrete. It will last forever and has better quality.

>>140528415
>the other one is mats glued togethers, absolute garbage shit only to trick amerifats into cheap houses

they are using stuff like that to make their latest fighter jets too, what can go wrong, am I right
:^)

>>140536444
hearty kek
>>140536450
Doesn't seem to give the impression of stability, does it? where/what is it, by the way?

>>140536508
>buy a house made of solid bricks
They dont even build houses out of bricks anymore. You are an idiot who should stop posting

>>140535069
:/ You sure they don't put insulation on the interior between the studs?

Aluminum siding is good. It is plastic siding you have to worry about.

Tyvek keeps solids and liquids out but lets air through.

>>140514353
Because architecture is art, craft and culture fused together, they lack all of that. All they have is their orange King of kitsch aka, the golden toilet Donnie.

>>140536204
I can't say, never saw an example and I don't live in a swamp area so you might be in the right about this. The other 95% of your country doesn't have this excuse though.
>>140536444
Check'd, and here's your (you) too. You sure showed me.

>>140514353
It's because they just applied what they do up north dowb south. Where I live (I'm on vacation) we build in concrete because hurricanes. We're also prone to earthquakes, so we prepare a lot of then seismically too.

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>>140528868
>to think you can beat a swamp
lol
you lazy merry mongrels

quite a few regions used to be fucking swamps, here
guess what we Humans did?
we dried them out, patiently
mostly diverting rivers, bringing rocks and dirt to fill the remaining spaces, and planting trees
did that hundreds of years ago, of course

of course, you wouldn't get it
it's a civilization thing.

>>140517522
Steel houses will melt in a home heating oil fueled fire, and will collapse into dust containing radioactive strontium and barium. I know, unexpected, but NIST says it can happen.

>>140519086
Fucking boomer cucks I'm really tired of these faggots.

>>140533072
New orleans area has bedrock at around 40 meters. Not a problem, drive steel pylons into the bedrock and build on top of it, in fact some go ogling will tell you they do this since most Americans aren't as clueless about construction as you are.

Also, you can't churn out a McMansion in a month if it's not built from cheap wood.

>>140526141
He talks about houses above the earth's surface.
Cockroach nest are unaffected

>>140517593
what about a straw house? no wolves live in my neighborhood.

>>140537166
show some sympathy to fellow americans. just go to Nîmes and tear down that barbaric Pont du Gard!

>>140519086
Homes like this don't deserve to sell and the Boomer owners deserve to eat cat food in their old age.

>>140537166

imagine the drama if we drained a swamp nowadays

>it's anuda remi fraisse

>>140514353
Bricks mate, our houses are built of bricks.

>>140535229
Wind doesn't exist in your universe?

It isn't just Burger Kings.

You think 55X20 yards 3 floor hotel made of wood is safe?

>>140536899
Most of the country does have that excuse, honestly. Extreme weather is everywhere in America.
But really it just comes down to economics. It is cheaper to buy a wooden house, insurance, and be forced to rebuild than it is to build a concrete structure and deal with the maintenance cost and such. All structures will need some form of maintenance, the catch is finding the cheapest and less stressful way to manage this.

For a lot of the country, building out of wood is this solution. The cheap houses look like shit anyway, so it's a good thing they won't last as long as the nicer, stronger houses.

It is almost like adapting our structures to our environment is the best way to do things or something.

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>>140514353
NOOOOOO PLEASE PAY FOR PREMIUM HOME INSURANCE GOY!!!!

DONT FORGET FLOOD PROTECTION WHEN YOUR LOCAL CITY FORGETS TO DRAIN THE SEWERS!!!!

>>140537652
real houses are made from carved limestone. that feels like home. concrete and cardboard houses are nigger tier shelters

>>140537166
>we
The Dutch reclaimed land taken by ancient flooding.
We live on land that has claimed territory from the sea long ago, and is slowly dissolving away.

You should take some geography classes before you talk on this subject.

>>140536743
Stable enough for 40 some years after the hurriciane.

Now they have sand filled underneath, but the same wood pilings are still in place.

>>140537228
It is 40 ft at it's highest, but don't let that stop you from winning an internet argument.

>>140537931
Europeans everywhere drained out swamps though.

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>>140514353
Because US is a police state. Steady houses is the best and peaceful deterrence to police brutality. American cop simply can't live with the thought that they can't break into houses with """no-knock searches""" at will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-iR2qXq9Rw

>>140535877
The south part on the pic has letters that are missing from the explanation

>>140526141
who rebuilds their home every year? wtf are you talking about, Hadji?

>>140537866
Caves turned into houses are maximum comfy, I'll give you that.
>>140537936
Swamps are not created equal.

>>140528415
If you buy a shitty prefab home, you get what you deserve.

The fun part of living in America is that nearly all suburban homes are prefabs, because Jewish land-developers buy up all the residentially-zoned areas so you can't have any goy, and then you HAVE to buy a prefab home, as that's all they will build. And of course they'll use the cheapest illegal Mexican labor and build them with the cheapest supplies possible.

So to get a house that's not a piece of shit, you need to buy the land yourself, hire an architect yourself, hire a builder yourself, and then pay for all the building supplies. Guess how many average Americans can do that these days?

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>>140538281
Misquote.
>swamps are not created equal
meant for
>>140538062


>>140537936
Where is that?

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>>140537183
Not if it is made of Soviet steel and concrete!

>>140533963
stop shilling for silt

>>140514792
>Concrete houses are vulnerable to earthquakes
Properly constructed are not vulnerable. Low-rise houses reinforced against hurricanes (aka build as full concrete box with rebars of all six sides connected) are pretty much indestructible.

>>140537529
we know how to deal with the remi "fraise des bois" kind
a well placed pyrotechnic plum to the spine, and bang
probrem solved

also, we do still rape mother nature as needs be
eg, in Normandy, we have mostly chalk and clay underground
sometimes, rain creates crevices, or an old chalk "mine" (hole) collapses
happened to a neighbour house
no biggie, though: his assurance just brought a truck to inject pressurized concrete, and it was fixed fast as fuck

of course, had the neighbour bought a merry cardboard shack, he prbly would have let it crumble, and bought another a little further, like a fucking savage living at the mercy of nature
but nobody is that dumb, outside mudrica and the rest of the third world

>>140538641
Leave me and my silt sales alone.

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>>140514353
I N S U L A T E D
C O N C R E T E
F O R M S

>>140537931
>slowly dissolving away
all your merry cardboard shacks will have dissolved many times, and then again, before NL returns to the sea, you dumb monkey

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stop being bitches and legalize it

>>140538760
>structure remains standing
>everything inside of it is BTFO
I'm not sure that helped.

>>140538281
>Swamps are not created equal
neither are Humans and merry mongrels

>>140538977
The fuck are you even talking about, frog. I'm talking about the southern US. At least learn some English comprehension before you come shitpost like a retard.

>>140539072
I had not realized the invasion of Islam had affected the French youth's intelligence this extensively.

I'm sorry for your loss.

>>140539114
still
Humans tame nature
niggers of all sorts, yours included, live at its mercy, like mere animals

>>140514353
There a company called Auscrete, they're going to start trying to build concrete houses. They don't burn and aren't affected by bugs or water.

>>140528650
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_insulation_materials

If I ever build a house, it's going to have a metal frame.

>>140539361
>youth
look who's talking...
with your 200 years of "history", living like animals
not rly better than niggers in mudhuts, or pajeets on designated shitting tracks

>>140528868
> 10 times the cost of building a new house
https://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete-homes/cost.html

>>140538174

One alive, no dead.

>>140539795
http://www.auscretehomes.com

Costs 95 to 100 usd per square foot.

>>140514353
My house is 300 years old and made from stone. It's comfy as fuck.

>>140539061
>survives hurricanes and tornadoes
>survives wildfires
>basically makes your house into a bunker
>all the cement acts as a heat sink, so it's cheap to heat and cool your home
what's not to like?
It's a tad more expensive, but you can compensate that by just building a smaller home.

>>140528892
>Kek. We have 150 km/h winds every winter here. Also this is earthquake area. That's why nobody builds with wood.
150km/h is a strong wind but only a Cat 1 hurricane. A Cat 5 has sustained winds 250km/h to more than 300km/h.

Also gusts can greatly exceed that sustained speed.

>>140529072
>Wood, or at least softwood types, is a renewable resource, believe it or not. Plastic is not.
That's false, in that trees made from carbon and hydrogen are no more renewable than plastic made from carbon, hydrogen and chlorine.

The world isn't lacking for hydrogen, carbon or chlorine. Once you are finished with plastic it makes reasonable feed stock for more plastic. While the wood fibers not so much. Yeah trees grow and can be renewed, but not anymore or less than man made extraction of carbon from water or air to make plastic. The salt in the ocean provides a source of chlorine that humans could never realistically consume.

If we didn't replant trees they wouldn't be renewable. Sorta like if we didn't produce methane plastics aren't renewable.

>>140535069
House wrap? You fucking dolt that is to keep the weather out of the house. Used to keep the drafts out and the rain out. Insulation goes between the studs on the inside. Jesus.

>>140514353
This is mainstream media level bait. How did so many almonds jimmy at this?

>>140519915
the usa plants more trees than we cut down. we have net forest gain despite how much we cut down. dumb britnigger

>>140538469
Or you can, be like me and not buy/ build a brand new house at all. Brought a full brick home that's been standing for close to a century. Gutted it, updated everything, and still spent less than the prefab shit they put up these days.

>>140529329
>Glued woodchips are cheap, so that's what you get, while concrete and actual plywood is far more expensive.
OSB is effectively identical in characteristics to plywood but much cheaper. It's also easier to make from young fast growing trees making it easier to sustain as a building material.

>>140540173
>It's a tad more expensive
Actually cheaper. ICF goes up in maybe 2 weeks where framing goes up in 5. Cuts out the need for many workers and they get the work done in way less time meaning you shell out less. Even cheaper now that the canadian lumber shit happened.

>>140514353
>why don't you live in meager blank communist blocs

Why aren't all houses pyramids

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muh stimulates economy

>>140514353
Because goy, that would require you to not purchase insurance, and Chaim needs another summer home.

>>140542634
don't know for your shacks, but double insulation, outside and inside is quite common for new constructions (and simple wrap of the old structure for upgrades), here, so to avoid thermal bridges

>>140543437
Yes it depends for code here but new basements must have a certain r value on the outside of them. Not so much a need for it on the outside of a home but there are some cases. Cookie cutter builders don't fucking care about that shit they want it built cheap and that always means cutting corners. A reason to not buy one of those homes. Here in the north it is smart to change the 2x4 for the outside walls into a 2x6 as it adds more room for insulation. Not much more but it helps a lot in the long run. Homes built by themselves not 35 other homes exactly like it right next to each other are way better built.

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>>140524960
>african material science
they build houses with literal shit

>>140544165
they leave the shit under the sun during summer and burn those in winter for the heat.

>>140544015
to be fair, we're infected to the marrow with ecolo-conscious maniacs, and there are huge tax refunds for people insulating their house better (that "make earth great again" faggotry is nothing new)

but outside insulation generally comes last, indeed (though it comes more and more, errywhere: a 5 stories building from the 70's where a friend of mine lives has been entirely insulation-wrapped a few years ago, for instance)

>>140528415

>even poorfag houses in Brazil made only with bricks and cement are better than American houses
holy shit

>>140514792
THen why are hi rises made out of reinforced concrete with extra rebar in the elavator shafts and over structural doors jackass

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>>140528415
>>140535881
Thanks.
If you're bored check out Frontier Log Homes in Colorado. Solid fucking wood with a high-as-fuck R (or RF) insulation rating, affordable, looks amazing inside and out (hardwood and animal skins everywhere), idk, city architecture doesn't do it for me any more.

t. innawoods coloradofag

>>140528415
OSB burns like black powder, I use it as tinder for hard wood in my fireplace

>>140533873
neither do steel ones apparently