>>140134863 fuck off gypsy we've been through this a million times 2 autists wanting that to happen won't change how the public thinks convince the bumfuck retards in villages cut off from civilization to get annexed
>>140135242 no, son. we're thracian and you're macedonian, but we're both bulgarian. as I said, unity makes us strong. wether you agree or not, when the albos chimp out our army will move in to protect minorities regardless. good night, sleep tight and don't let the serbs bite.
>>140134846 Uh no, waifu are banned. No interracial mating allowed.
Eagerly waiting to hear the difference between "interracial" and "interethnic" mating, though. Here I was, thinking the Irish are a different race from the English. Next you'll tell me the people in Tbilisi are same race, too!
If there are any true identitarians left, come with me and be done with this EU pan-European racial wet dream. I will be north of the wall with my daughters, preserving what heritage we have left.
Is there any plan against the huge bias against the GI in the media? Here in Austria every single media outlet calls the IB "right wing extremists". They even go ape when Sellner was on a Red Bull owned TV show once for giving the right wing extremists any kind of platform. As we can see with the AfD in Germany, the media still has huge power in influencing the public opinion.
>>140135655 Aright, before I go, are we gypsies or tatars? Mongols? The russians called us slavs, Tito wanted us in Yugoslavia. What is it? Why don't you accept the fact that we'll both be better off together. I have no hard feelings for Macedonians, I have hard feelings for Macedonians who refuse to associate themselves with their paternal nation.
P.S. You're supposed to call us "turks", gyppos on here is saved for the Romanians.
>>140135821 Many European nations have a language that originated outside their nation's borders, but that doesn't mean they don't have a unique identity or culture. We, like the South African Boers, have a unique identity that is similar, yet separate to other European peoples.
>>140136007 Apparently there's just one pan-European race, and we're just distinguished by "ethnicity". Apparently I'm racially identical to a fucking Paionian savage who larps as Alexander the Great all day. FML
>>140136409 It was solely Christian for some 5-6 years. >>140136287 Idk if you know but, it was proven that genetically Bulgarians are closer to Italians than to our Western neighbours, the serbs. >>140136136 Look, when the albos come for u, we've got ur back.
No. I'll be taking back the American flag for White Nationalism thanks. America is a country built by and for whites, anyone else that happens to be here is not actually an American. Why would I fly any other flag when the communists are trying to tell everybody that the American flag is a White Nationalist symbol. Just let them do the work for us and fly the flag.
>>140136646 >not fight each other come on dragane i think we all know that's not possible but it'll probably be more drunken fistfights than genocides this time also alboniggers and gypsies are banned right?
>>140136133 >>140136569 Bulgarian and Italian societes don't have the same history as the French, Belgian, Dutch societies. Judaism has always been a part of Europe, why shouldn't it be a part of a European movement?
>>140136474 You are not the issue. You admit we are different races, but for practical and/or moral purposes will accept limited levels of race mixing. Presumably you just don't want to promote it in any way, and possibly seek minor social caution or disapproval for it.
That said, the other identitarian clearly said that we're the same race, but different ethnicity. I don't know what he means by that, but which is the official position? Is there one re: naturally occurring race mixing, whether there's a single "paneuropean race" (lmao), and to what degree (if any) race mixing can occur (how many miles from your country of origin)?
>>140136874 Are you an American? We only except people who are white. In any case, antifa frequently tries to attack us. >>140136805 We often fly the US flag as well, but we need another symbol to distinguish ourselves from the civic nationalist crowd.
>>140137179 You claim that Jews keem themselves apart from Christians, then why couldn't a secular jew enter movement that defends the very essence of our society? Why do you want to keep segregation and next claim Jews live on their own?
>>140137535 I'm just saying that the western and the jewish world views are fundamentally different. Being tied to a land has never really been a part of jewish culture (to name the most relevant difference here), but you might have gotten more of the western ideas in your upbringing. Still there is no historic argument to be made from a shared history
I have no idea about the movement, and the segregation is not a thing I wish for, but rather a fact as I see it
>>140137688 >Jews cling to their identity >Can't even join a hobby club without getting shat on
Do you know how often I have to hear "innocent" oven jokes from the very people telling me to not take it personal? It's kinda hard not to cling to whatever you supposedly are when people don't see you for what you are. European Jews never asked for this madness, we were happily living here without those muslim barbarians. The very problem is that, just like those muslims, a lot of people think all Jews are alike, while most conservative Jews are nothing like the American, liberal, rich Jews you see in the media.
>>140137891 Wanted to ask you, what is your government doing about the Albanian (literally) villages in the North-West? When I was travelling to Ohrid (which you've taken care of), as we passed through them there was not a single Macedonian flag. Only this retarded bird. >>140138057 GI has chapters in Italy, France, Germany, Slovenia and Britain I believe. They have nothing against mixed Europeans joining their cause, but are striving for a "Europe of nations" policy instead.
>>140137535 As far as I am concerned, as long as most of your ancestry is celtic/germanic/nordic and that you are willing to embrace your European identity (I.E.: NOT calling yourself a Jew and NOT practicing barbarian rites and cults from the desert) you are fine.
First, failure of the group to address the underlying question does not build confidence.
Second, what's my position? Require some white blood or family connection for admission, require applicants to oppose pro-immigration and pro-mixing propaganda, and require that they want to promote domestic child birth and culture.
Interracial dating should not be promoted in any way. It can either be ignored or given social disapproval depending on circumstances. Other controls may also be imposed, such as the other partner must acknowledge the white culture, no conversion to Islam or anything like that, and perhaps only accept it if it occurs when the person has been abroad a long time; different groups can decide what they're comfortable with to a certain extent.
This position, however, will bar you from groups like Identity Europa.
>>140137103 I get that response quite often, and you're not wrong, at least not entirely. Having the identitarian flag as a rallying point is ok, but it needs to be a tiny identifying mark among a sea of American flags. The enemy is our greatest ally, the more they believe that the US is secretly a White Nationalist state the better. Every time communists see an American flag, they should assume the person is White Nationalist. That should be the goal.
The IE flag needs to be a tiny identifying marker, not the overwhelming aesthetic. If the movement grows the flag basically should overtake the IE symbolism entirely. It needs to be flown in the way my highly professional paint guide shows, imho. Feed the leftist idea that the American flag is a symbol of WN, and don't let go once the idea has taken hold. Let the left fight for our vision of America.
>>140135736 Are you butthurt because a Polish girl rejected your degenerate Turkish genes?
Poland is 99% white and it's next to impossible to immigrate to. First of all you have to learn Polish fluently, second you have to show you potential to assimilate and can live in a community.
Basically your only way in is by marrying a Polish citizen and marrying into the family and being polonized by living in Poland for 3+ years. But if the family doesn't accept you (ie. you're a nigger) it's unlikely she'll marry you.
Second is Karta Polaka, that is if one parent or grandparent was Polish, you live in a country that forbids dual citizenship (former USSR) and you speak Polish, you can get an unofficial citizenship that gives you all the rights of being Polish.
I don't know if the Polish authorities are as strict as the Japs (they come inspect your fridge, your cellphones, your apartment, interview your friends, etc), but Polish, Japanese, Swiss etc citizenship are the hardest to get.
Ironically Canadian is the easiest in the world. Simply enter the country for 3 years and you can get citizenship. Don't have to know any English of French or anything about Canada if you're under 18 or above 54, otherwise you take a citizenship exam with a 99% pass rate.
>>140137913 Ok, I'm the same, I reject these groups because they're not anti-immigration so much as they are white purity groups.
Regardless of your situation, if you race mix, are a mixed race white, or are at all accepting of race mixing, then you are not eligible to join. Excluding race mixing between the different people within the broad confines of "white", which may or may not be different races according to them.
>>140138873 Correct, no asians at all. No asian/white mixed race people, either.
Doesn't matter if you lived there for years and married there before returning to Europe later in life. You're barred and so are your kids. Doesn't matter what views you have on immigration, western culture, and religion.
>>140138415 If you are assimilated and don't identify as a Jew, oven jokes should be not a problem. They should be funny, in fact. If they aren't, you're not assimilated and personally proof of why Jews are a problem. You refuse to assimilate, just as two millennia of Jews have before you.
>>140139190 I'm not arguing for ethnic segregation, I'm saying the hardline racial policies of these identitarian groups call for it, even if they don't realise it. Because I'm sure as shit not a Spaniard or Georgian.
1) Is there an age limit for joining? I have had conflicting answers on that (seems strange, since many people can create families only later). Let's say there's someone above 30 but below 35, could he join up? 2) Since G.I. is not a party, is membership compatible with political activism for the upcoming elections, or it would be frowned upon? Namely, campaining for Lega/FdI since they quite anti-immigration? 3) Is using BergBook a must? I strongly dislike social media, especially ZuckerCuck's one. 4) If there is no G.I. formal chapter in your province, can you still join?
>>140139977 1) older than 28 is basically always a nogo 2) I am pretty sure you can do both 3)For the italian section is not a must but it is very likely they u will have to use it 4) You can join the closest chapter you can find
" Second, what's my position? Require some white blood or family connection for admission, require applicants to oppose pro-immigration and pro-mixing propaganda, and require that they want to promote domestic child birth and culture.
Interracial dating should not be promoted in any way. It can either be ignored or given social disapproval depending on circumstances. Other controls may also be imposed, such as the other partner must acknowledge the home culture, no conversion to Islam or anything like that, and perhaps only accept it if it occurs when the person has been abroad a long time; different groups can decide what they're comfortable with to a certain extent."
Which is why I would not be eligible to join these racial purity groups. It's also silly to call them racial purity groups, because actually they're fine mixing various races so long as they're initially from the European continent (or certain places east of there, like Georgia).
>>140139636 Some jokes are funny, I have to admit. Most are just tasteless. Even though I do not identify as a religious Jew, it upsets me very much because I actually lost family members in the camps and it made my family move throughout Europe (to flee). It upsets me when dumb people tell me stupid Holocaust jokes to get attention. It enrages me when a muslim tells me a Holocaust joke while having twinkles in his eyes. I could drink their blood. I guess it's a "Jew" thing.
>>140136409 No, it was not Judeo-Christian, which is as far as I can tell a very modern term (any advance on post WWII?) It was Christian. Period. They are two different things, you know it and I know it.
>>140140455 >1) older than 28 is basically always a nogo To be honest, I can only be resentful towards such a rule. I am curious, though, what is the rationale against having members born in the 1980s, sharing your nationality, your beliefs and your goals, and usually more stable financially and socially than the average college goer? And once your members are above 30, what should they do?
>2) I am pretty sure you can do both >3)For the italian section is not a must but it is very likely they u will have to use it >4) You can join the closest chapter you can find
>>140140518 Uh hell no, are you trying to turn Europe into a melting pot?? Welcome to the 21st century European, an American who goes around saying "well I'm 1/8 irish, 3/4 spanish, 1/5 greek, 9/10 danish, 1/4 dalmatian..."
>>140140878 You can support us in many other ways and I am not talking just about donations. I did not make this rule but i see the reasonign behind this. We are not a party, we are a movement for the european Youth and an age gap was decided.
>>140141113 diversity of though is only bad when niggers are involved rational human beings can just debate it lad even if you don't agree with then i assume you can change their minds if you're a rational human been
>>140141265 Guarda se vuoi possiamo farci una chiaccherata, odio rifiutare persone dicendogli in pratica che sono troppo "vecchi" ma coem ti ho detto è un movimento basato intorno ai giovani e che si cura molto della sua immagine etc
>>140138873 why the fuck you dating asian? you that fucking weak you have to go for the most desperate but moderately decent looking women on the planet or something? You're kids will be fucking freaky looking, you know that right? And they won't be brainy. Oh yeah, and she'll take you to the fucking cleaners when it all goes tits up.
>>140141061 >You can support us in many other ways and I am not talking just about donations.
I hope other identitarians are more well versed in words when compared to you.
You are basically telling me that my money is good enough for you to receive, but I am not not good enough for you to join in your efforts, and solely on the base of less than 5 years of age difference.
As another anon said, if that is your official policy, do not worry about donations. I put my money where my mouth and heart is, but certainly not where I'm not welcome.
>>140141412 Anyway, you have me confused with the other guy, I'm not the one complaining about you barring anyone over 30 (although that rule also bars me, in addition to being barred for multiple other reasons).
>>140141311 kek is giving us digits here bro so lets use em wisely. You know Tor right? well with a little web search you can learn how to host sites without searchable internet addresses, but accessible through Tor. I don't know whether it's a good idea and don't know your particular needs, but it seemed like an option. actually, i suspect it will be one of your few remaining options soon enough... because this globalist replacement shit ain't stopping for no-one, and they'll shut you down.
>>140135111 nice checked Im a little disappointed that nathan diamgo stepped down he is well spoken and semi famous but he is a former criminal so i can see why he might want to step out from the spot light. eli mosley the new head looks promising clean record army experience and also well spoken we will see how he does.
>>140141860 No I did not tell you that, you are twisting my words. I said you can help in other ways, like supporting us online and during our rallies.
The age thing as i specified before is a core part of the movement. The only reason i mentioned the donation is that many people who exceed the age gap often think that we only want their money which is not the case! We want your support. I am sorry If i didn't express myself correctly and I am here for any other clarification.
>>140141860 Didn't read your convo but from what I know a big part of their rethoric is based on being part of a sacrificed generation.
And while everybody's happy about having the same beliefs and sharing a common view of how bad things are these days, if you're outside a certain age bracket then you belong to a different generation and therefore cannot join this movement stricto sensu
>>140141860 It's called Identity Youth. It's supposed to be for teens, late teens and folks in their 20s. It's not about you being "not good enough" for them, it's just that they're trying to target the younger population.
>>140141989 Yeah I did that, sorry for that. Anyway its nto like you are not wanted, we can meet and talk about the cause and all but the active members must be between 16 and 28 I believe for the reasons I stated before.
We want you and your support. We want to spread our message and we do this for passion not for fame or money.
>>140142264 You are not banned, you can help the movement and work with us in other ways but as we say on every social media we are a movement representing the youth of europe. Why do you think all our activists are so young?
>>140142231 >Didn't read your convo but from what I know a big part of their rethoric is based on being part of a sacrificed generation. >sacrificed generation I want to cry. I have kids of this age. Holy fuck that's some existential shit. Me, I'm fine for the fire, and I'm happy to lose my life to save my people, never been happier at the thought, but these kids. All fucking power to them if that's how they see themselves. Could be the miracle we need.
>The only reason i mentioned the donation is that many people who exceed the age gap often think that we only want their money which is not the case! We want your support. >I am sorry If i didn't express myself correctly and I am here for any other clarification.
Ok, this sounds better. Why don't you make and extend your network to include supporters as well in a more clear cut way, then? To be honest what I expected to be able to do was pretty much about being helpful in recruitment, information campaigns, joining in meetings, be part of demonstrations and debate and helping in public activities. All those things require, at least for me, to believe in what you are saying and supporting. Hard to be a believer if you are unwelcome.
I certainly have little interest in donating and not being able to be 'part of the effort' with anything other than my wallet
>>140142772 anyone over 28 i believe, and its not a ban but more like an age gap for people to join for the reasons I stated before, there are many ways to help the movement beyond joining the activism.
It's not whether they have good arguments as to why we should stem immigration, promote local birth rates, etc. We all do. What they don't have is good arguments regarding their unclear, contradictory, and asinine racial purity rules.
>>140142772 Because we're all either gen x ers, or fucking boomers, or millenials or gen whatever i give that's why. because we'll shit on it with our bollocks. because we're the prior generations of (hopefully partially redeemable) cucks, that's why. we walked blindly into what they got. I wouldn't want me around neither, I got my own field to plough.
>>140142855 You can attend our actions, conventions and campaigns without being an activist. You should look for pictures from the berlin march, there people obviously older then 28 in the march ( a minority ofc but they were there).
If you dont want to donate thats totally understandable as long as we fight the same enemies and support each other.
>>140142948 The thing is that a Balkan identity doesn't exist, that website is well done but the idea behind it is retarded and hes using our pictures for something we don't officially support. Totally not good.
>>140143297 I know, I think GI should stay in Western Europe for now, until we figure out the whole border thing around here. >>140143279 Don't bully my Handschar friend faggot, his kin literally fought for your country.
At this point, for what reason should someone join you and not, for example, Gioventù Nazionale of FdI, given that they have the same patriotic goals, they are more organized and better funded, AND will also welcome people above 30 in their proper 'senior' party? Asking seriously. Why should a 4 years younger guy pick you and not them?
>>140143625 Not just borders, its not about that. First of all, they have put Slovenia in their list when slovenia has already its own chapter. Second of all every country has its own identity why mix all together?? It goes against our principles.
>>140143385 I wish you would, I get different answers depending on who's speaking.
Fundamentally, any interracial mating is forbidden. Happa are forbidden. However, apparently there's a special exception for interracial dating among certain races (such as an Irish and a Georgian), although the rule is unclear both in extent and reasoning. Alternatively, as one of you put it, there's just one pan-European race, so it's not race mixing if some random Finn comes over and impregrates a local.
>>140143279 Thank you neighbour (literally, since I'm also close to Croatia)
God dammit I haven't met a single 2nd generation immigrant from Ex-Yu that has successfully integrated in my entire life and now they want to join Generation Identity?! YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE SLOVENIAN IDENTITY, or identify as a Slovenian!
>>140143788 So basically we dont have a race manifesto but i can tell you that all identitarian mostly agree that is more suitable to mate with our own but you cant compare HAPAS who will never be ok for an identitrian with 2 white ethnicities mixing. Its not the same thing. They are still white and european.
>>140144061 Lol "we don't have a race manifesto but it's okay for Poles to come fuck your women, but not even a single half-english half-japanese."
Your racial purity policy makes little sense, because you clearly accept race mixing. When I was younger, and even today really, Greeks were not considered white, slavs are not white, Georgians sure as shit are not white, etc.
Even assuming we're all white, though, we're still different races. You do not forbid someone from the other side of the black sea to hook up with a Gael. That's race mixing through and through, but you have an arbitrary rule that allows certain races to freely mix.
So long as you forbid half whites from being part of a European rebirth, so long as you have asinine racial purity laws through hat accept southern and near eastern foreign races, there is 0% chance you will ever see a penny from me.
Regardless of whether you say "well, you're not banned, you can donate and attend our public rallies".
>>140144199 I don't actually need anything, but did like the G.I.... well that is up until now. Can't really like it anymore if as it turns out they don't like me for various reasons. MUH FEELS
conservative nativism? Meh, it's really what ever, i been by myself in my own ideas and thoughts most of my life, i got lots of friends, thought a higher purpose would be something like this, i guess i'll just agree to my original thought "All you need to be is to be RICH and not give a flying fuck about anybody." If i can't beat imigration i can damn sure make sure i love in a nice neighbourhood in relative saftey away from inner cities infested by imigration etc.
>>140145929 im fully aware of different identity of herzegovinians, bosnians, kordunians and everyone its a pain in the ass to write all of it so i jsut say bosnians
also i dont hate anyone personally, im in good relations with a lot of southerner immigrants, what i hate is them coming towhere i live- middle east refugee style group-destroying us and breeding with our women
>>140146137 Well Herzegovinian women are much more superior to ones in "upper posavina" so I dont think they are taking your women. But even if they are those women dont see them as different people necause we are slavoIllyrians.
>>140146882 I am from Hrvatsko Zagorje man, so I am not one of them by your standards. So who is closer to your physical and mental state? I hope you dont say Slovenians because they are closer to western Slavs its just Germans and Hungarians came between them and Czech/Slovak tribers throughout history.
>>140147907 Holly shit you are contradictory. How the fuck are Slovenians like us? If anything Zagorci are regional group close to no one because they are so much different then anyother slavic tribe around them. In what way are they like us? First of all they have nothing to compare to us because they are little slav Austrians and their whole culture is based around that. Second of all they are GENETICALLY(YOU KNOW MOST IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE IF IT ISNT WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOUTHERNERS TAKING OUR WOMEN) they are much diefferent, and much taller I dont know why but on avarage they are very tall, and we all know genetics of people from Zagorje. Yes we did talk before and I made same argument like this one and then you said genetics dont matter then I said that you then dont have to worry about southerners taking your women then you had no argument and never responded.
To ti dokaz da si skompleksiran kreten i očito po tome imaš nešto zajedničko sa Slovencima, zapadni hercegovci su u jebenom kršu zadrzali kulturu 3 stoljeca pod balijama dok su nasi preci drkali kitu. I onda govoriti tako pogrdno kao sta ce ti subhumani se mixati sa nasim zenama. Pa meni je stari iz stubice ozenio hercegovku i bio na to ponosan jer je to jebeni uspjeh. Oni su kroz taj pakao selekcije krsa i rata postali jebeni ubermenschi. I bjeliji su od nas skoro jebote. Dok sto pricas o Bosancima se totalno slazem da su zohari.
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