Did the Holocaust happen or not? I'm trying to approach

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it never happened, simple as that

>>140096337
Assuming that Hitler started gassing Jews since day 1, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes.

6,000,000 Jews killed during 3,153,600 minutes comes out to 1.9 Jews per minute. That means Hitler killed roughly 1 Jew every 30 seconds. (LOL)

In Auschwitz, the most famous and biggest concentration camp, there are 15 crematoriums. According to Auschwitz survivors, Jews would go into the chamber, gassed for 15-20 minutes, then put into the oven.

It takes 1 hour to cremate a body using modern furnaces which operate at much higher temperatures than the traditional ovens at the camp. However, lets say that the ovens were operating at a level that we see today, that means it would take 1 hour, 20 minutes to gas and burn 15 Jews assuming they were all burned simultaniously. (Disregarding the time it would take for the gas to empty the chamber for the bodies to be transported from the chamber to the oven.) The elevators used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their weight capacity. However, for our greatest ally, we're going to assume that bodies were teleported instantly from chamber to oven.

That means 15 Jews were gassed and burned every 1.2 hours. That comes out to exactly 300 Jews every 24 hours (Assuming the gassing and burning of Jews was happening every hour straight for 6 years on an uninterrupted basis) the total # of killed jews would be 657,000 for those 6 years. The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjWacM9s7rE

>>140096337
I wish it did happen

>>140096337
My thought is that it wasn't planned, its was more of a meme that got out of hand.
imagine being hans after ww1
>Dad dead
>Family starving
>Kids being forced into sex workers
>Barely enough food
>A veteren comes along by the name of mr Hitler
>Makes the country great again
>Explains that it was the Jews who have caused this time and time again
>Shows the list of how many countries they have been expelled from
>Join army and work your way up
>Love mr Hitler for what he has done for your people
>Get put in charge of guarding The very people that caused so much pain for your family.
Do you really think that there wouldn't have been certain camp overseers that wouldn't have been so angry at the Jews that they decided the best thing to do for the world is to kill them all? All you have to do is look up the long list of prisons that treat their inmates terribly.

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Biggest redpill is what happened at Majdanek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8

The Majdanek museum cut their death toll from 2 million to just a few tens of thousands, a cut of over 90%.

Although they initially claimed there were 7 gas chambers, 5 of these have been discredited. They now cling to a claim that of 2 gas chambers.

The propaganda surrounding Majdanek was similar to the propaganda around Auschwitz. The fact that the story collapsed there in such a spectacular fashion is a devastating blow to the holocaust narrative.

>>140097415
*cut of over 98%

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>>140096337

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>>140096337
Here are some videos for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8pB2IOxxxY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBnMtkbWPCs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSYJBVvyP08

This website in general: HolocaustHandbooks.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PlAviTK-Ac

The Real Holocaust: http://www.hellstormdocumentary.com/

>>140096337
The holocaust - Europeans wanted Jews out of Europe.

>>140096709
>>140096572
I mean I agree that the total death toll is almost certainly much less than 6 gorillion, but what about all the prisoners who survived Auschwitz, Majdanek, Dachau etc? If there were really no systematic killings, don't you think at least some of them would come forward and admit the truth, at least to their friends and family?

>>140097205
Your thoughts are worthless. The facts prove it didn't happen. Reals > Feels

>>140098590
> don't you think at least some of them would come forward and admit the truth, at least to their friends and family?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJYexBnOnBc

>>140096337
Fucking Christ
Hogans Heroes
/thread

Yes it happened, germans are autistic robots. The most efficient thing for them to do with the millions upon millions of undesirable people they now had to feed and shelter, is to kill them.

>>140098840
So where are the bodies?

>>140098945
I have them
AMA

So what do you guys say to stuff like personal narratives describing the Holocaust (Wiesel's "Night" and so forth)

Just made up? Exaggeration?

>>140096337
Before the WW2 there were about 3kk jews in Poland. Now it's about 1.500 literally 1.5k

I have a question guys. You guys say the holocaust didn't happen but you guys want to gas the kikes. Do you guys believe that zyklon-b gas exsited during ww2?

>>140096709
The holocaust did not only involve concentration camps, but mass killings using guns, and then the bodies chucked into a mass grave, not all burnt and most not actually done at a concentration camp.

>>140099035
Do you have Anne Frank? She is my waifu

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>>140099379
she is here somewhere, here you go

>>140099206
If I recall correctly, Night makes no mention of gas chambers. And it accurately points out that botched Red Cross relief efforts caused loads of starving prisoners freshly liberated to die

>>140099522
Thank you and checked

>>140099343
Where are the mass graves with unburnt bodies? No graves at Treblinka...

Seriously though, the massive contradictions about the holocaust are hiding in plain sight. Just look at the biography of Amon göth, the commandant of the camp depicted in Schindlers list. Isnt it strange that Spielberg left out the part where Göth is arrested by the SS and charged with murder and mistreatment of prisoners? Seems strange to me.

Look up Otto Koch, the commandant of Buchenwald, one of most infamous Nazi "Death Camps". He too was inder investigation by the SS, stripped of rank and executed for "dishonoring" the SS. You wanna know why he was executed? For mistreatinng prisoners, indiscriminate orders to kill prisoners, and embezzling stolen Jewish property. Strange, i thought this sort of activity was encouraged by the Nazis....

>>140099610
>Treblinka
I am not just talking about in exterminations camps. Long before those were used they would round up a large number of jews, get them to dig a mass grave and line them up, and shot them. This happened all over Nazi occupied Europe. Extermination camps were only created after Himmler noticed the negative effect of the executions by gun shots were having on his men.

>>140099281
Before the war there were zero Jews in Israel...
>>140096572
Beeen looking everywhere for this screencap

>>140096709
I thought they gave up on the ovens are we're burying them in giant pits

>>140099941
They must of killed a lot of kikes, if there were so few Jews left that we can't even find mass graves at death camps...

>>140100155
Yep pretty much

>>140099523
I think you're right about the gas chambers, although it definitely has a lot of cremation stuff in there

>>140100164
A mass grave has been found in Bergen-Belsen and many more concentration camps. Not all used mass graves but a large number did

>>140096337
I strongly suspect it did happen,

>>140100257
True, he went on and on about them shooting and burning babies. Must have been written during the time when "Ze Ovens" were in vogue.

>>140100155
So where are the 5.4 million bodies?

>>140100810
Mass graves all over Europe

>>140100922
Got any proof of the number of bodies found? obviously not counting soldiers killed in fighting, let's be generous and say 5% of the total soviet casualties were from "death camps" that still does not add up

>>140100922
That would explain why the ground is so fertile, although the distinct lack of bones is kind of telling that this isn't the case

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>>140098718
>this video is not available in your country
Really activates the almonds
>>140098590
Have your ever read any testimony from a holocaust survivor? They're ridiculous

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>>140099522
>Majdanek

>>140101186
That just seems to be the general consensus accepted by every western government I don't know why I wouldn't believe it, and the excuses given here a completely stupid

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>>140096337
How come this guy was called the "Angel of Death" when everyone who seems to have met him in person survived?

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>>140101989
>majority believe it therefor it's true
>and the excuses given here a completely stupid

>>140101989
Since when is this the general consensus? Since the other narratives were proven false? So silly

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>>140098590
oh sweet sweet summer child of mine..

>>140096337

whether or not it happened is not the question, it's how big was it

>>140102073
Do you actually believe ww2 even happened?

>>140102586
Obviously, im not as off the wall as you would like to think

>>140096709

you have to remember that lining them up in from of ditches and doing mass executions was also a favorite method

The thing isn't really whether he was able to kill that many people in that amount of time, it's just where are the bones? Where is the public proof that 6 million people died? You'd think that if there was sufficient proof to say yes they would be ready and eager to show us

>>140102770
That is the reason for my post, to lead you to that conclusion on your own

>>140102586
I mean all of Europe being destroyed was pretty big indication that ww2 happened. You would just think there'd at least be I don't know, an honorary jewish cemetery where 900,000 jews were allegedly buried, dug up, burned, and reburied. Maybe a memorial, or I don't know, disturbed ground of some sort even?

>>140102845
It's better to actually post the arguments and sources, most people don't bother to read these infographics

>>140103047
But they died their families died then put in mass graves no one would be left to make memorials to the dead or even remember their names

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>>140103258
So where is the proof?

>>140096337
It obviously happened, it just should not be an excuse for Israel's own war crimes.

t. half-kike

>>140103258
Someone was left to count up the dead yes? Or how did we arrive at the six million number

>>140096337
Judging by how much you retards hate Jews the holocaust makes complete sense, what else would people like you do with that much power you're consumed every day by how much you hate Jews it's fuckig wierd

>>140103526
Essentially this, i just think the numbers were way exaggerated

>>140098840
But they used them for the war effort. Why kill your biggest work force?

>>140103588
Are you new? if you want to know something just ask, posting your insight is not an argument

>>140096337
Never happened put should happen again.

>>140096337
You'll find out when the shitskins round you up in cattle cars

>>140103258
Presumably the people specifically sent to investigate the camps could find some evidence. They didn't even find disturbed ground, much less just short of a million people's double burial worth

>>140097779
this video is not avaliable in your country. fucking jewtube

>>140102586
>>140102586
>Do you actually believe ww2 even happened?
Fucking everybody's granddad was in WWII, stupid.

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>>140096337
History is written by the winners and the history of WW2 has been modified several times since the incident. No one is ever going to know how it all really went down.

>>140096709
not all the jews were burnt

>>140103484
>ost
>holocaust
different things pal

>>140103258
>>140103588
wew lad feel free to stop posting, nice Hitler doublydoos tho

The isolation, persecution, and concentration of jews did happen, in a response to weimar excesses and communist ties, combined with racial paradigms that sought their ethnic cleanse. The fantastical stories of gas chambers and ovens and electric floors and holocoasters and all that? A combination of fetishistic bullshit, oppurtunist guilt trippers and a kabbalah justification for their Israeli state needing ovens and six million as a number.

Regardless of it being true or not, the paranoid fears of jews can't and shouldn't be an excuse for why whites aren't allowed to organize, advocate or promote themselves anymore.

>>140104116
Already answered in the thread, why don't you read it unless you don't care eitherway

>>140104108
>that image

hearty keks were had

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>>140096572
¬_¬

>>140104084
How do you know they're not lying? Where is hitlers body , he likely didn't even exist

>>140104391
it doesnt matter really for me if you belive me or not. im just curious if the people here are serious, delusional or just meme about it here

>>140096709
>It's another 'I'll pretend people claim that the Nazis gassed and burned ALL the victims so I can make it sound mathematically impossible' post

>>140104613
Only Jews and gypsies lie.

>>140102357
Those are just people who falsely claimed to be victims of the Holocaust. I want to see someone who was actually imprisoned in one of the "extermination" camps coming out and admitting there were no mass killings.

>>140099320
Sure Zyklon-b existed.

The thing I don't get it, why use Zyklon-b, a fucking pesticide when literally just 20 years earlier everyone was using a far more potent, lethal, and more avaiable gas to kill people

>>140104766
So where are the non ash 5.4 million bodies?

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>>140104077
Just replace the word you with hook in your browser. Like this.
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM

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>>140097141
>the actions of an elitist intelligentsia that I became aware of through a Malayan shirt-ironing forum makes me desire the slaughter and genocide of all persons of certain groups including complete civilians and their children, simply on account of their birth condition and regardless of whether they committed the injustices I complain about or not

/pol/ is fucking retarded, I swear.

>>140096337
The key is to stop using the word "holocaust". This is part of the liberal language game. The term only became common in the 1960s.
Since holocaust is an umbrella term for any kind of "jewish persecution" anywhere in the world from 1938-1945 there is no sense using it.
Holocaust can mean whatever they want it to mean.
Only debate an "Intentional Genocide" and "Homicidal Gas Chambers".

>>140104923
literally mass graves were found

>>140104923
Along the dead civilians of Eastern Europe mainly

>>140104923
Mind you I don't doubt that the numbers have been exaggerated here and there

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By shrinking the Jews, Mengele was able to fit 25 Jews in one oven at a time. Deniers BTFO

>>140104593
Yea idk i've been here long enough to see specific refutations of each of those arguments..
"They destroyed all the proof!"
"We have eye-witness accounts!" (human skin lamp-shade anyone?)

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>>140103060

Thats because deniers have no actual arguments OR sources. for example, the soccer team in that picture is made up of British POWs, not jewish inmates at the camps who were allowed to form teams. Its a retarded conspiracy theory pushed by neo-nazi groups.

>>140103602
>i just think the numbers were way exaggerated

based on what?

>>140096337
It happened. Just not on the scale (((they))) said it did.

>>140106078
god ur memes are bad lol

I thnk its cause they're trying so hard but it might be just that you take yourself too seriously

>>140101989
There's no way the government would lie to us. Ever. I trust their word absolute.

Spoken like a true loyalist. How's the prison island treating you?

>>140101288
Changed your meme flag Hans?

>>140104847
and why would they do that?

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>>140104881

according to the nazis own records, there were 11 million jews in europe at the time. Further proof that deniers know nothing about the holocaust in the first place and are just conspiracy theorist fueled by rumors and paranoia rather than any actual evidence.

>>140096337
yeah, it happened. doesnt mean that jews are nice people though

>>140106362
mass hysteria

>>140106249

>getting butthurt over a meme

>tells me I take myself too seriously

also, not an argument. Seriously, how does raising rabbits for their fur to be used in clothing somehow equates to proof that the holocaust never happened?

>>140104847
does this count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVmIaBW-HjI

>>140096337
It happened, deal with it.

it did, but both sides are being cunts about it

>>140104921
Turned out for some reason that it was more effective against jews than the gas they usually used on humans.

>>140106514
Yea idk man I guess ur pretty angry or something but what you just said was entirely without context.. Maybe you're talking about the random infographic that has nothing to do with your trying so hard?

If I had to guess why rabbits would be relevant, I suppose because of the accusations of human hair mattresses and pillowcases and such, but then I'm not gonna defend an unverified infographic

>>140106514
>>140106843
also ur memes are still bad, you didnt really address that

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>>140106843
>If I had to guess why rabbits would be relevant, I suppose because of the accusations of human hair mattresses and pillowcases and such

that is true as well though. Youre all over the place anon.

>>140106843
kek u shit

>>140106976
yea I'm sure lice infested hair is real valuable

in any case I'm still not gonna defend an unverified infographic, I haven't heard about rabbits before personally

also ur memes are still bad

>>140107143

you really do have nothing interesting to say other than this pathetic shucking and jiving because your conspiracy theory you spent 4 youtube videos researching is getting BTFO. Im not going to respond to you again unless you actually articulate a point

>>140096337
>Anne Frank book is the greatest book ever existed and a great source to the holocaust
>she died in 1945
>a lot of her diary was written in a ball pen that was invented after 1950

>>140107317
You've only addressed points I never made lol.

You responded to some rabbit shit I never said
You never covered the whole memes being bad thing
You put out some hair invoices as proof of human hair mattresses?
You didn't address the whole 'lice infested' part?

I mean I'm making points but you're deliberately strawmanning the few points you learned to counter in your shill class. That's why your responses are forced on some infographic that god knows who posted and some only loosely related information.

>>140106818
Wonder what it would do to Turks.

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>>140098682
>>140097205
It wasnt a genocide but this accurately describes the situation in the camps quite well, we need to at least knowledge that yes - Germans treated the jude like shit

>>140096337
OP, the problem is either no one in the camps kept accurate records of just how many people Hitler killed, or the records were destroyed before the Allies could take the camps. So unfortunately, we will likely never know the actually level of atrocity that occurred. It could be as the Jewish claim, it could be as the neo-nazis claim, or it could be somewhere in between, all that is know for sure, is that some amount of Jewish people were murdered by the German Nazis during WWII and the exact numbers are heavily debated.

>>140096337
>Did the Holocaust happen or not?

No.

>>140096337
I doesn't matter. Don't make that a hill to die on, Jews are taught six gorillions from kindergarten. We're worse than nogs to them. Mesirah = Taqiyya

>>140106386
>because one infographic is misleading the whole thing is false
not an argument
also, how many of those jews were in nazi occupied lands? according to the link below, there were about 10.4 m in 1904. Some of that seems fishy because it goes from 6 million to 9 million over the span of 9 years at one point. But even given the 11 million number, there were only 2.4 million in Nazi occupied areas at the time. Those numbers match up with these numbers by relative magnitude. So unless their enemies were shipping them jews to gas, it is impossible.

>>140107989
http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13992-statistics
forgot link

>>140104847
>I want to see someone who was actually imprisoned in one of the "extermination" camps coming out and admitting there were no mass killings.

How can they if they were in extermination camps and there were no reprieves? It's like saying you want see a death row prisoner immediately after execution so you can question him.
What's really interesting is that to be classed as a "Holocaust survivor" all you had to do was be a Jew living in Germany between 1933 and 1945. Realistically any kike who lived in Germany for 2 weeks during 1933 is classed as a "Holocaust survivor" even though the Holocaust™ didn't begin until 1941 or 1942. Hence why there's so many "survivors" and also why none of the numbers actually add up.

>>140107753
>propecia
>sinutab
This must be a joke

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>>140096572

>>140096337
Nope

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>>140107989
>>because one infographic is misleading the whole thing is false

considering you guys think one random asshole lying about being at auschwitz is proof that the entirety of the holocaust never happened, this is pretty funny. And yeah, if your basing this soley on the idea that the holocaust never happened because there werent even that many jews in europe in the first place, it means that not only are you wrong, but you are so lazy that you couldnt spend 5 min. doing research on your own to make sure it was true and that you will just believe any bullshit that helps your conspiracy theory without a second thought.

>how many of those jews were in nazi occupied lands?

well lets go through it

http://holocaust.umd.umich.edu/news/uploads/WanseeProtocols.pdf

Germany-131,800
Austria-43,700
Eastern territories-420,000
General Government (nazi occupied Poland)-2,284,000
Latvia-3,500
Lithuania-34,000
Belgium-43,000
Denmark-5,600
France-865,000
Greece-69,000
Netherlands-160,000
Norway-1,300
Serbia-10,000
Hungary-742,800
USSR-5,000,000
Ukraine-2,994,684

Ukraine and USSR alone put the number over 8 million.

>>140104593
I like how in this thread you have this image claiming Bergen-Belsen was not a death camp and someone else claiming there are mass graves at Bergen-Belsen. Oy Vey.

>>140109237
So german enemies were shipping Jews to get gassed?

>>140109237
they should not have taken bialystok, it makes the borders look quite ugly

>>140104593
That entire infographic reads like satire lol

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>>140109324
>claiming there are mass graves at Bergen-Belsen.

there are anon. This picture was from Bergen-Belsen

>>140109347

What are you talking about? They invaded those places and occupied them, then started rounding up the jews in those occupied countries.

>>140109706
> <100 bodies not in a Nazi style grave

>>140106284
This. I trust the government and rich people in positions of power immensely, and unquestioningly.

Why were/are so many lies used to start and then prop up the holocaust? The one that had Jew ashes/fat used to make soap? A lie. The one that had Jew skin use to make lampshades? Turned out to be a lie. The one that had giant electrical mats used to electrocute Jews? A lie. The one that said Bergen-Belsen had homicidal gas chambers? Another lie. The one that had the shrunken Jew heads? Another lie. The one that said steam chambers were used to kill Jews? A lie. The one about conveyor belts used to move Juden onto electrical mats for frying? Another lie. The one that said electrified water vats were used at Belzec? Another lie. The one that said Auschwitz Jews were vaporized? Another Lie.The one that said 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz? Turned out to be a lie, since that number dropped to a little over one million, and that included non-Jews, add in the bogus numbers at Madjanek and yet we keep hearing about the sacred 'six million.'

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>>140109860

trying typing whatever you wanted to say again because what you just wrote makes no sense. Another picture from Bergen-Belsen

>>140109841
You just claimed Germany invaded Bolshevik controlled USSR and rounded up 5.5 million inhabitants.

>>140109961
Nazi executions had a very specific thin grave that they stacked people in for efficiencies sake. That looks like after the fact piling up the starved bodies

>>140109977
they mostly just shot them for being jews and for fear they would become partisans and mess with the supply lines

>>140104744
khazar wannabe jews are definitely scumbags and I don't really care if they got gassed

>>140109977
>You just claimed Germany invaded Bolshevik controlled USSR

are you clinically retarded anon?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa

>>140110071
USSR stopped Germany. Germany did not reach 5.5 million jews in the USSR

I know I'm arguing against you but seriously that argument doesn't make you look good

>>140107528
You take that back goy. Anne Frank is pure.

>>140110105
> and rounded up 5.5 milion inhabitants

People here can tell when you strawman anon

>>140096337
Did it happen? Yes.

Did it happen on the scale that Israel and modern media want you to believe it did? Probably not.

There's no difference between 6 million and 12 million and 1 million. Once you hit the 1 million mark you've already shown that you're very capable of killing as many people as you want however you want whenever you want and that you will gladly do so.

The inflation of victim numbers is literally just for the purposes of going "OY VEEEEEEEEY LOOK AT ALL DESE CASUALTIES DON'T EVER BE FASCIST AGAIN"

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>>140110038

Thats because they were buried by the british liberators of the camps anon. When they got to the camp, they had around 13,000 corpses just lying around

>>140110202
>you strawman anon

you mean like what you are doing now?

>>140110328
Yea I don't doubt it, starvation and Typhoid was prevalent even among German soldiers. If anything 13k corpses just laying around indicates just how logistically impossible it is to bury millions.

>>140109237
interesting that the numbers you post add up to over 12 million. i guess we need to remember the 18 million jews that were gassed now?

I never implied that when people who disagree with the holocaust narative do it, it is acceptable. It's a logical fallacy on both sides. But it's well known that picture is of a British POW team. So you are strawmanning again.

According to these numbers the, the Jewish population would've had to triple in the span of 40 years, through depressions and wars. Also, USSR doesn't count as "Nazi Occupied". Did you read your own fucking document? The whole thing is about emmigration of jews to different parts of the world. That is another piece of evidence I'm going to use. Thanks.

>>140110434
Yea you're gonna have to be more specific.

I was referring to you only quoting the first half of my sentence, which entirely changed the meaning

>>140110278
>The inflation of victim numbers is literally just for the purposes of going "OY VEEEEEEEEY LOOK AT ALL DESE CASUALTIES DON'T EVER BE FASCIST AGAIN"

the number has never been inflated. Since the end of the war, it has always been 6 millions jews dead. I dont know why you guys continue to bring up this strawman.

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>>140105118

>>140109237
>Ukraine and USSR alone put the number over 8 million.
But Ukraine...was part of the USSR at the time?

>>140109961
Yep, there's the 6 gorillion Jew bodies gassed at that concentration/death camp alright. Definitely proof that 6 million Jews were burned in ovens to fulfill some kike prophecy.

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>>140110458
>starvation and Typhoid was prevalent even among German soldier

the implication that these were just casualties on the same scale as the german army is complete bullshit though anon. Those inmates died of starvation and disease because they were considered subhuman and were deliberately ignored.

>>140110598
>>140110328
all of these points are addressed. the allies bombing supply lines, the disease outbreaks, the horrible conditions at the end of the war that the allies walked into. it still doesn't prove that 6 million jews were gassed and incinerated.

>it has always been 6 millions jews dead
It's weird that 6 million just happens to be a special number in Judaism. It's also weird that death toll estimates in the camps can go from 4 million to 1 million and the "6 million" number has never been adjusted.

>>140110917
Or because the supply lines had been bombed into oblivion.

>>140110917
Once again I am not surprised that people considered POW did not receive priority access to food and medical attention.

Still not systematic execution, still demonstrates logistical impossibility of systematic execution

>>140098945
They're all ash dumped in the lakes around the camps.

>>140096337
Yes it happened. Water is wet too. Fire is hot.

>>140096337
Holocaust denial is flat-earth tier nonsense, matey.

>>140110917
anon, did you watch the video posted earlier in the thread? people at auschwitz talking about playing soccer and putting on plays and watching movies. and saying that as the war went on, pressure was reduced because supplies were running out

>inb4 selective bias
because when someone tells me that germans, who are known for being mild, efficient, and peaceful go out of their way to do these things, i don't believe them without sufficient evidence. 6 million gassed and incinerated should be easy to prove scientifically.

If i told you I leapt over a house you would ask for proof. If i got my friends together and they all agreed I did, it doesn't prove it.

>>140110913

Anon, what are you doing? The guy asked for evidence of mass graves at Bergen Belsen, so I provide them and now you are moving the goalpost in the middle of it and saying that those are all 6 million victims, when I never claimed anything close to that in the first place. This shucking and jiving really does speak volumes for holocaust deniers and how they have nothing to stand on, which is why you always end of resorting to shitposting like this.

>>140110598
It was 6 million before the war too... see the problem here? You have them saying it was ovens, or maybe the showers and delousing chambers were actually evil homicidal gas chambers, and let's not forget the Holocaust rollercoasters and attack dogs and testicle beatings and electrical executions goys. These ebil nazis gassed FOUR GORILLION PEOPLE AT AUSHCWITZ ALONE!!!1!!11

>>140111429
>while ignoring everything else posted
anon, you've been btfo. it's okay. 1 mass grave of a couple hundred bodies that the british made doesn't prove 6 million by the germans. where are the rest of the 5,999,734 bodies?

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>>140111050

[citation needed]

The idea that they desperatly wanted to feed them, but couldnt is complete and utter horseshit based on literally nothing and you know it. If that was the case, then how come there was wide spread starvation on the same scale in the Warsaw Ghetto before any allied bombing campaigns took place? Why were the nazis putting flyers up telling citizens not to feed these starving people or they would be shot? Why did they make something like Aktion 14f13? if the supply lines were beyond repair, then how come the allied liberators of those camps had NO problem shipping in supplies?

>>140096709
There were more ways than just the camps. Shooting galleries mass cremation in buildings which I'm sure would add up to the missing 2 million

>>140111429
And it's been pointed out that those mass graves weren't even dug by the Nazis. But yes, spout buzzwords. Very telling, although maybe your just stupid. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're just dumb and not insincere.

>>140111344
So it's true

>>140111434
>It was 6 million before the war too... see the problem here?

yeah I see the problem, you have literally no idea what you are even denying, and are parroting arguments you dont even understand yourself.

Again, the number has always been 6 million. you are lying because you have no actual argument to back up your conspiracy theory

>>140096337

Probably, but the americans put the japanese in concentration camps and let's nor forget ghraib where american soldiers raped children in front of their mothers

>>140111756
>And it's been pointed out that those mass graves weren't even dug by the Nazis.

yeah, by me. you really are lost in the dark anon.

>>140111434

>You have them saying it was ovens, or maybe the showers and delousing chambers were actually evil homicidal gas chambers

Gas chambers to kill people and ovens to get rid of the bodies senpai, not that difficult to understand

>>140111692
True, there is no proof that allies bombed German holy lines :^^^)))

I'm gonna assume me saying my some familly died in a camp is gonna be completely ignored as I am obviously a goverment spy?

>>140111914
>Probably, but the americans put the japanese in concentration camps

false equivalency

>>140111924
>bomb the enemy till they starve to death
>put all the bodies in a mass grave
>look at this evil Nazi mass grave how can you deny the six gorillion
bruh... staahp

>>140111769
Indeed, Fjordbro. That's why you get twenty hours light in the summer and four in the winter. Obvious, innit, matey?

>>140112026

So you have no answers for my questions, no proof for your claims, and resort to passive aggressive shitposting? And you guys wonder why no one takes deniers seriously.

>>140096337

There's a few authors that mention the holocaust is fake but I don't remember them off-hand. A wikipedia page on Holocaust denial should mention some of the theories behind it.

The problem with meeting shills on both sides, is the possibility that it was financed by Frankist Jews which, possibly, be Rotshchild bankers who do have published material about their involvement with the creation of Israel. Since those dudes are rather wealthy, and wealth does equal power in the hearts of men, there's a risk of meeting pro-Israel shills and dirty money.

Plus, people at that level of international involvement tend to piss off a lot of people generationally, so you might run into some gun-runners and terrorists looking for a "way in." So, academically, it's rather scare beyond checking out some of the impetus behind the desire for Israel, namely Shabbetai Zvi and Jacob Frank.

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Rothschild was born in Paris, France. At the time of her birth, her mother, Elisabeth Pelletier de Chambure, a French Catholic aristocrat, was not married to her father Philippe de Rothschild, but instead married to Jonkheer Marc de Becker-Rémy, a Belgian nobleman. After a legal skirmish and the Jonkheer's threats to kidnap his wife's child, the Becker-Rémys divorced in 1934. Shortly afterwards, Rothschild's mother and father eventually married that same year in Paris. By 1939, Philippe de Rothschild separated from Elisabeth, who reverted to using her maiden name.

Rothschild had one brother, Charles Henri de Rothschild, who was born in 1938 and died that same year.

When Philippine de Rothschild was ten years old, she witnessed the Gestapo arrest her mother, who later died at Ravensbrück concentration camp, the only known member of the Rothschild family to die during World War II.
>only Rothschild to die in the camps was Catholic
>Let that sink in

>>140112173
>>bomb the enemy till they starve to death

except this didnt happen anon. We've already been over this.

>>140112262
Yknow the point of arguing is to win over other people right? If you say [citation needed] for an incredibly obvious point that nobody in their right mind would argue with, you don't win anyone over

>>140112098

No it's not, it was common to put potential enemies in camps at the time

>>140111692
Yeah, those people weren't gassed, they do look emaciated though. I still don't believe the jewish bullshit. Jews have been outed for being hucksters far too often for me to listen to your nonsense. I don't know what the fuck ashkenazi really even are. Like some slavic chechen mongrels that now pose as jews and tell all sorts of lies. The whole thing is just bizarre. It's not a secret around here that kikes wanted to essentially overthrow the German government. They tried and later got rounded up for being pieces of shit. They've absolutely destroyed the US economy for the sake of their rampant speculation and got bailed out for it. I honestly think much worse is going to happen here in the US though.

>>140112470
>If you say [citation needed] for an incredibly obvious point that nobody in their right mind would argue with, you don't win anyone over

if its so incredibly obvious, then how come you are shucking and jiving around actually posting evidence for this "obvious" point anon?

>>140112262
I didn't actually read your post beyond citation needed sorry famalam.

But I will stimulate your cranium with a question. Are you aware of how intellectually dishonest it is to say "there were mass graves at Bergen-Belsen" when you know for a fact that the only mass graves were dug by British liberators? Do you see how doing this in a discussion of the Holocaust is... misleading? I hope you do. Now, it would be a lot simpler to agree with the other lolocaust believers and just say "Bergen-Belsen wasn't a death camp reee!!" But you are so desperate to prove that six million people died... so desperate, so thirsty baby. ;)

>>140112483
>it was common to put potential enemies in camps at the time

The American government didnt engage in a systematic genocide of japanese people living in America though. Thats why its a false equivalency

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>>140096337
Stuff like the stories of masturbation machines and being spared the oven because you had a cold make me suspicious. It's probably massively exaggerated, but I'm pretty sure it did happen. I mean, who wouldnt kill kikes if they got the chance and thought it wouldn't have negative consequences?

>>140112434
You're obviously a kike and here to try and subtly persuade people into believing that it was still bad even though it wasn't quite as bad as what was originally presented.

>>140112538
>Yeah, those people weren't gassed

The fact that you continue to bring up gas all the time shows me how poorly educated you actually are about the holocaust in the first place. I also see people here complain about contantly being beaten over the head with the holocaust, when its clear you have no idea what you are even denying in the first palce

>>140112655
boy you sure like shucking and jiving huh..
evidence toward that point is germany being literally destroyed after wwII. If you're going to contest that point then you've got fingers in your ears and eyes shut

>>140112655
Bruh do we really need to post evidence that the Allies bombed Germany? Fuck man... I guess you must be right. No single person in Germany starved, especially not the prisoners :(( and I guess Fanta was never invented ;)

>>140112874

>lose argument

>call the person a kike

damn, really made me think.

I don't know why anyone but the most autistic Stormfags denies the killing of Jews. Most Nazis say to read David Irving as a reliable historian who isn't part of the narrative, but Irving never denied the Holocaust happened, he just denies some of the popular narrative such as the Auschwitz story. He himself says that due to Operation Reinhardt, millions of Jews were processed and eliminated by the SS in other camps which were destroyed and hidden later on. He may not believe in the 6 gorillion total, but his accounting isn't all clean and happy either. There's a legitimate question about how much Hitler knew about the whole deal, but at the end of the day, he's the Fuhrer, if whole departments under him were engaging in murder, he's responsible, for being a shit administrator if nothing else.

BTW, all that noise about there being no evidence and the death rates not adding up? You can say that about many of the communist death counts as well. Mao is given an absolutely enormous amount of deaths... Where are the bodies, the camps, the graves, the documents, hell where is the fucking infrastructure for any of it? There's far less evidence for that, yet Stormfags spit out increasingly ridiculous death totals under Mao while insisting the 6 gorillion were treated with kid gloves.

I don't doubt there's a lot of killing all over the place, I don't doubt life under Hitler, Stalin and Mao was probably quite miserable for many, I also don't doubt most of the numbers are inflated and exaggerated for propaganda purposes. How much so depends on how much you value honesty over ideology.

>>140112759
Well now we're begging the question. It's only a false equivalency if the argument is settled

>>140112895
>>140112964
Hey, khazar faggot. I don't care about your pilpul.

>>140112897

oh look, you once again failed to post this obvious evidence anon. Why is that? If its so obvious, then how come you cant post it? Is it because you know its bullshit, but are just too plugged into your echo chamber conspiracy theory bullshit to admit it?

>>140112759
If Japan had won the war I'm willing to bet the narrative would have been different ya? Wartime propaganda and all, might get a little carried away ;)

>>140111665
i find this conversation very amusing

i personally believe that the holocaust did happen but the numbers of jewish people that died were faked and taken advantage of

>>140113087
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_of_Germany

Grats you just turned god knows how many people over to holocaust denial. This demonstrates your intellectual dishonesty

>>140112931
>Bruh do we really need to post evidence that the Allies bombed Germany?

thats not what you said anon, you said the people in bergen belsen only starved because the allies bombed "supply lines"

show me any proof that proves that this is why all those people starved rather than it being the intentional neglect by the nazi government.

>>140113087
I don't have any "evidence" that Germany was bombed other than a polandball meme where the map of Dresden is completely colored in red to denote the places where the bombs hit. But that is just a meme and not really stimulating evidence for an intellectual like yourself in sure ;)

Yes and no. No to the 6 million and gas chambers. But they were a few hundred thousand deaths due to over work and under nourishment.

>>140113222

WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT THE REASON THE PEOPLE IN BERGEN BELSEN STARVED TO DEATH IS BECAUSE OF ALLIED BOMBING OF SUPPLY LINES TO THE CAMPS

Bergen Belsen, starvation and supply lines arent even mentioned once in that wikipedia article anon.

>>140096709
The Alt-Right has designs that will theoretically achieve 3.5-3.8 JPM

>>140112759
The German Governement didn't either ;^)

>>140113237
Show us proof that khazars aren't lying scum and that their god isn't just a demon

>>140097415
not available in germany
WHAT A SURPRISE

>>140113523

"Germans had been killed, roughly 8.26 to 8.86 percent of the population (see also World War II casualties).[1][2] The country's cities were severely damaged from heavy bombing in the closing chapters of the War and agricultural production was only 35 percent of what it was before the war."

35 percent output means people are starving dipshit. Especially before the actual reconstruction started because still at war

>>140096337
Focus less on whether or not it did happen, and focus more on why you can't criticize it in most (((western))) counties.

>>140113372
WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT THE REASON THE PEOPLE IN BERGEN BELSEN STARVED TO DEATH IS BECAUSE OF ALLIED BOMBING OF SUPPLY LINES TO THE CAMPS


Its hillarious how you faggots continue to dance around the issue and move back the goal post you yourself set up in the first place because you realize how full of shit you are and realize that you just got called out on it.

>>140113237
Prove it was Nazi neglect specifically. Prove it. And I mean evil Jew hatred neglect and not "we have to choose between feeding the poor orphaned children and the prisoners, sadly the prisoners will starve" neglect, because calling that intentional murder is so far beyond the pale of intellectual dishonesty that it's just offensive buddy. I mean really. Oy Vey

>>140113704
Calm down lad, I hadn't scrolled far enough down to see your post yet. I have since replied.

>>140113704
It's hilarious how you khazars pretend to be jewish when it's obvious that you aren't even middle eastern.

>>140113523
>>140113636
>>140113704
>>140113705
>>140113237


don't mind me consolidating arugments

>>140102031
For a time Mengele supposedly deemed which prisoners were healthy enough to be sent to work or straight to their deaths

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>>140096337
It did happen, however the 6kk number is taken from ass. In reality 1-2kk Jews in total died in WW2.

>>140113705

If you put people in camps, then you are taking ownership and responsibilities for their lives. If you don't want the responsibility, don't put them in camps.

Your argument is like a restaurant selling poison food and justifying it by saying they had no idea, they're good boys who dindu nuffin...

>>140114268
Right because jews are just good boyz who dindu nuffin. Just like when they destroy a nations economy.

>>140096337
it happened, but 6M jews in 4 years is absurd

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>>140113705
>Prove it was Nazi neglect specifically. Prove it

Oh, so now you are basically admitting you are full of shit and have NOTHING to back up your made up claim and are turning it back around on me to prove my point. Unlike you, I will actually respond to this request rather than dancing around the issue

Nazis had a campaign called Aktion 14f13 where they would go around to the camps, giving medical exams to all the inmates, and then those deemed sick from starvation or disease or overwork ect. where just killed instead of actually treated.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_14f13
>Aktion 14f13, was a campaign by Nazi Germany to murder Nazi concentration camp prisoners. Also called invalid or prisoner euthanasia, the campaign culled the sick, elderly and those deemed no longer fit for work, from the rest of the prisoners in a selection process, after which they were killed. The Nazi campaign was in operation from 1941 to 1944 and later covered other groups of concentration camp prisoners.


Also, starvation and disease were widespread in the Warsaw Ghetto before any bombing campaign happened. So the "bombed supply lines" excuse, which isnt even true, doesnt hold up considering the nazis were starving people before any of that shit happened in the first place

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto
>The only real means of survival was the smuggling of food and bartering; with men, women and children all taking part in it. Up to 80 percent of food consumed in the Ghetto was brought in illegally.[37]

>Smuggling was often the only source of subsistence for the Ghetto inhabitants, who would otherwise have died of starvation.[37] Unemployment leading to lack of funds was a major problem in the ghetto.

pic related is a flyer warning that those cought giving food to these starving people would be shot, showing this was very clearly intentional

>>140114268
Not really. your analogy would work if it was regular food, and then the British and American bombers poisoned the food... but then the Nazis wouldn't be entirely to blame. But for the Holocaust narrative to work, the Nazis have to be 100% evil while the Allies are the good goys

>>140096337
>Did the Holocaust happen or not?
The Holocaust literally did not happen.

Holocaust Handbooks
https://pastebin.com/Uzm91v7z

>>140113821
>>140114037

once again, the denier still dances around the issue of actually posting ANY evidence for his false claims

>>140114656
Mate... pointing out that the burden of proof is on you isn't "giving up" I swear these fucking brainlets. When will they learn ;)

>>140114724
You might be autistic mate

>>140114724
This isn't a trial and I don't have to provide evidence, you disgusting khazar pig

>>140096337
>hocolcaust didn't happen, but if it did I would totally support it
Yes it happened, numbers may be lower, but the very act of genociding people like vermin happened on a major scale.
Lots of sources, these SS hoarding murrican fags are just too lazy or don't speak german.
If nazis didn't believe it was true to some extent they wouldn't get such a hard-on for Hitler, though.

>>140114268
But I will go on to say, to follow up with my earlier post, that ya. Nazis are partially responsible for those starvation deaths. There is no denying that.

>>140114474

Now you are just deflecting and diverting the conversation. You're essentially admitting that anything that happened to them is justified. It's so far beyond the pale of intellectual dishonesty it's not funny buddy.

>>140114661

Operation Reinhardt happened, not even David Irving denies it. There's documentation for this shit.

In the end though, Stormfags are playing a coy game. Everyone knows Hitler ordered evidence destroyed during Operation Clausewitz. Who wants to bet what were the most urgent documents to incinerate?

>>140114656
I decided to give that Wikipedia article a look through and wew. Quite a liberal use of quotation marks to make the Nazis sound nefarious. really activates the almonds.

>>140115095

Well that's a completely different tone between posts. For what it's worth, I'll accept it.

>>140096337
Yes, but it was retaliation for the holodomor. Go read up on the holodomor.

>>140114656
So starving people to death in work camps makes the nazis worse/different from the ussr how? They did the same thing long before and continued long after Hitler.

>>140112049
Were they systematically executed in a gas chamber though?

Internment was a common practice throughout conflicts in the past. Literally every nation locked up the Japanese after pearl harbour. Everyone does this.

So there was a literal civil war in Germany involving jewish militia, before WWII.
WWII puts a shit tonne of pressure on germany, and the least of their concern is the jews getting fed or not.

Were they mistreated? Most likely.
Was it an intentional genocide? Most likely not the intention initially. At some point I'm guessing that killing the jewish prisoners was a legitimate option, due to the strain of feeding all these people whilst simultaneously getting every supply system bombed by several nations at once.

Even if the Nazis were genuinely planning the holocaust from the beginning, I believe there needs to be accurate numbers.

>>140112049
Nah mate, we aren't denying the fact that Jews died. I believe you lad.

>>140114756
>pointing out that the burden of proof is on you isn't "giving up"

yeah it is, espeically when I backed up my claims the moment you asked for it while you still havent posted anything to back up your claims. Futhermore, you have no argument against what I posted.

>>140115506
not an argument

>>140115553
not an argument. Seriously, how does this whataboutism shit disprove the holocaust? as if doing the same shit stalin was doing makes it somehow good.

>>140115295
I can tell that you're a khazar just by the words you use. "pale of intellectual dishonesty" Only khazars obsess over being perceived as intelectual.

>>140114829
>>140114895

asking for proof that you refuse to post (because it doesnt exist and you know it) isnt autistic guys.

>>140116412
>ya it is
No it isn't mate. If you had backed up your claims beforehand then ya, it would have been a cop out, but as it were I was merely turning around your line of hawkish questioning and using it on you

>>140116452
Thinking that a your going to convince somebody online to not hate khazars isn't autistic goys

>>140116412
Also, technically speaking, it is an argument to say "your source is not credible" which I was saying and is in fact accurate, based on evidence within your source itself (the way it was written) ;)

>>140116591

I backed up every one of my claims in this thread, while you continue to dance around the issue and dodge the question and refuse to post anything to back up one claim you made. you and everyone in this thread know its because you are full of bullshit and got called out on it, so why dont you admit to it. Or post the proof

>>140116432
I, uh, thought that was actually a very clever turn of phrase. *cough* ;))

>>140116714

>Quite a liberal use of quotation marks to make the Nazis sound nefarious

this isnt an arguement anon.

>>140116412
>not an argument.
Neither is this.

>Seriously, how does this whataboutism shit disprove the holocaust? as if doing the same shit stalin was doing makes it somehow good.
>disapprove
Enjoy your strawman arguments.

The whole narrative pushed by the west is that jews were specifically sent by the millions to gaschambers and into incinerators, slaughtered like cattle. Which is not true, they suffered a fate no different from other and much larger population groups, but somehow it is especially terrible because it was done against jews. Obviously jews are much more important than other people and justifies the destruction of european national identities.
I don't say it never happened, but turning it into a hyperbole and assigning immense value to one mass killing among thousands is beyond retarded.

>>140116873
You just ignored the point I made though comrade. You ignored the fact that you were being a bothersome Nelly. A whiny Windsor. But seriously, your "evidence" is weak stuff mate. No need to even go past Super Saiyan 1 to beat it up :^)

>>140117099

I posted proof for my claim, you posted "well stalin did it to!"

this, in no way whatsoever, disproves the holocaust. Stop being retarded anon

>>140117088
Oh shit them Hitler digiterinos. And sorry if I wasn't blunt enough, let me rephrase. "What a farcical and deliberate rewriting of history to fit one's narrative" is that argumentative enough for you.

>>140117229

you are shitposting because you are wrong and had your entire conspiracy theory torn apart. Getting mad at me for destroying your retarded world view is expected.

Those marks were caused by tourists in the decades that followed, probably using their keys.
>Hardness Test - Before the Polish - YouTube
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>MIT Concrete Sustainability Hub (CSHub) - Micro-Scratch Test - YouTube
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If the concrete was scratched by fingernails, then fingernail powder will be left on the scratched concrete surface (but no furrow) because fingernails are softer than concrete.

>>140113626
Use Proxytube Addon for Firefox!

Not yet, but it will soon. Kek wants it to start this month. :^)

>>140117307
The point is that you're all a bunch of dirty commies that had just genocided a bunch of people in russia and Germany said fuck that and wanted you out of their country. You know, the same way you get kicked out of every country.

The “5 million” has driven Holocaust historians to distraction ever since Wiesenthal started to peddle it in the 1970s. Wiesenthal told the Washington Post in 1979, “I have sought with Jewish leaders not to talk about 6 million Jewish dead, but rather about 11 million civilians dead, including 6 million Jews.”

Yehuda Bauer, an Israeli Holocaust scholar who chairs the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, said he warned his friend Wiesenthal, who died in 2005, about spreading the false notion that the Holocaust claimed 11 million victims – 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews.

“I said to him, ‘Simon, you are telling a lie,’” Bauer recalled in an interview Tuesday. “He said, ‘Sometimes you need to do that to get the results for things you think are essential.’”

Bauer and other historians who knew Wiesenthal said the Nazi hunter told them that he chose the 5 million number carefully: He wanted a number large enough to attract the attention of non-Jews who might not otherwise care about Jewish suffering, but not larger than the actual number of Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust, 6 million.

>>140117307
>disproves the holocaust.
Nice continued strawman. I don't deny it, just your false claims to the scope, intent and importance of the event.

>>140117576
>The point is that you're all a bunch of dirty commies

yeah, Im a commie because I disproved your retarded conspiracy theory so thoroughly that you couldnt even post ONE (1) single piece of evidence to back up one of your claims. You know you are questioning your own conspiracy theory right now and its only a matter of time before you have to admit that holocaust denial is stupid bullshit

>>140117425
I'm shitposting because this is 4chan and my worldview is rock solid, which is probably a bad thing since it speaks volumes about how dogmatic I've become, but regardless I am devoid of the emotion of anger, I am filled with only smugness and a surety that the Holocaust didn't happen, but it should have.

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>>140096337
I don't know and I don't care.

>>140117760
>I don't deny it, just your false claims to the scope, intent and importance of the event.

in other words, youre a holocaust denier with nothing other than "b-but stalin massacred people to!"

heres a little piece of truth anon, just because you hate jews doesnt mean the holocaust never happened

>>140117806
No, I don't have to do any of that. I believe what I want. If I want to believe the truth then I'll believe it. If I want to believe a lie then I'll believe it. If I don't want to believe your khazar bullshit then I won't believe it. Your people have an obsession with trying to capture other peoples minds. Not that I truly believe khazars are even human.

>>140117922

youre shitposting because you got BTFO and you know it

>>140100370
even if graves were found, he numbers matter, people did die for natural causes afterall

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Literally no one can debunk this

>>140114656
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto
>poland is a shithole
imagine my surprise.
>oy vey, the germans didn't provide for their every whims.
I like how all the citations in that article are by jews. boils my noodles
>typhus
there it is. it was well documented that jews lived in crammed quarters and had low standards of hygiene

>Aktion T4 was officially terminated by Hitler on August 24, 1941 but it was continued by many of the physicians who had been involved, until Nazi Germany was defeated in 1945.

A plan that hitler canceled in the early stages of the war grew to massive sizes and killed the 6 gorillion.

And you keep ignoring everything everyone else is saying. You are picking and choosing and when you loose or get disproven you respond to something else. JIDF plz go

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>>140102687
I don't get it please elaborate

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>>140113564
amazing!

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>>140096337
Jews were absolutely rounded up and put to work in labour camps. The germans needed man power to feed their war machine. In such camps it's reasonable to assume that many jews died from disease, exposure to the elements, industrial accidents and, towards the end of the war, famine.

What they did not die from however was a systematic extermination effort. And certainly the number was not even close to 6 million. The facts simply don't add up. Unrealistic and inefficient methods of killing, too few crematoriums, an apparently endless supply of 'survivors', complete lack of physical evidence (no mass graves or piles of ash/bone etc.) and an absence of documentation.

The official narrative is absolutely wrong no matter what the actual truth is. To believe it is insane.

>>140118154
Mate you like that Irish guy and I'm that one nigger. And I've been shitposting the whole thread so ;)) ya dig? But ya, its pretty funny watching you lolocaust lovers avoid the meaty arguments and insteady hit hard on silly things, like the six million number being 100% factual truth. Silly boys tee hee.

>>140117477
>>140113626
That and also switch to Palemoon.

>>140098718
Haven't seen this one
The man laughing with the soccer story speaks very loud
>>140099281
At least be thankful
>>140099320
Think why use z-b? Why not CO2 from the heaters/crematoriums?
Takes about the same time to kill I victims barely notice it, is cheap an you dont need special equipment to clean the mess after

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>>140118683
>American education.
The pictures point out that you can't effectively gas a chamber full without the proper door type.
In the Auschwitz holocauster gas room however they somehow gassed 6 gorrilion jews while using a crappy wooden door.

Look at the doors Americlapper, the doors.

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>>140096337
Here faggot

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If the holocaust didn't happen how come it's only people on websites who says this, and not any historians or like, people of some status?

>>140121773
Uh, did you not catch on to the fact that most news outlets and media are owned by kikes?

>Be America
>Nuke innocent Japanese citizens, twice
>OY VEY, look at the evil Nazi!

>>140121979
Yes but how many historians are? Why do they not deny it, if it is so obvious? Don't tell me they've been paid off, or they're too "scared" or some bullshit.

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>>140096337
The holohoax is a myth and even the ADL admits that 44% of global youth don't buy it. Only baby boomers buy a giant lie built on widely disparate and contradicting stories (many proven false) and the idea that all physical evidence and the lack thereof should be excluded from the conversation on penalty of prison.

I still prefer to argue that internment was more than justified. I bring up the 1918 German communist revolution where 90% of the leadership was Jewish, kike Lenin and his kike/multicult bolshevik party murdering any halfway intelligent ethnic Russian/Ukranian after the civil war, Jew NKVD head Yagoda and his merry band of kikes famining 6,000,000+ European Christians around the Black Sea in the 1930's, etc. etc. etc.

>>140123404
Uh, in Europe they get thrown in jail for questioning it. You live in Europe, and you already know this.

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>>140096337
>Did the Holocaust happen or not?

Ofcourse it did, It's still happening today, just look at Germany, where less than 50% of the countrys population is non-german

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>>140123404
Blowing out the holohoax has been illegal in most of Europe since the 1990's. It's a giant scam to hide judeo-communism and the tens of millions of Christian Europeans killed by kike commies in the 20th century. Jew NKVD head Yagoda alone famined more than six million Christian Europeans around the Black Sea in the 1930's. A few hundred thousand inbreds died, almost all from typhus, starvation or a bullet to the back of the head. They absolutely deserved to be interned. Hitler had already deported 80,000 kikes to Palestine and hundreds of thousands fled to the UK/USA/Canada before the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

We need to focus less on the sixteen gorillion and more on what they've done to Europeans.

>>140096337

6000000

https://youtu.be/0klX-BuWWFo

6000000

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nope we Jews are too powerful to be killed specially by some lil fagget with a missing testicle. the truth is we controlled Hitler he was our fuck toy and we used him to further our agenda. but what would you Nazi larpers know about plans and sheeit, you niggers are too busy fapping to animu "thanks to us" that you can't form a coherent thought

>>140096709

Once again I will bring up that a person produces around 100 cubic inches of ash. This means right around 3 cubic miles of ash. They show the "ash heaps" which are maybe 20 cubic yards, and the lakes which the supposedly poured the ashes in, which are only 50 yards around.

People may have died, but there simply isn't enough remains for it to be as they claim.

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>>140124118
>Jews are too powerful
It's not power, it's influence. It's not r2r, it's nepotism and corruption.

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>>140097779

6000000

>>140123849
>>140123974
It's illegal to prevent uneducated shitheads from towing the line and denying, serious historical inquiry is very much allowed, even encouraged.

In many countries, denial of the Armenian genocide is also illegal, does this = not happen pls

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Which flag is really yours?
(nevermind, your IP address is logged and proxies insecure)

>>140122205
Do you have a way of going through a war without killing innocents?

If so then, please, I'm dying to hear it and I'm sure everyone here is as well.

If not, then do like Japan and keep your virtue signaling whore mouth shut, you're not better than the others on this thread.

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>>140124164
They had hundreds of industrial slaughterhouses and needed fertilizer. If they truly were death camps they would have turned the inbreds into a nice paste to spread on the fields next spring. Only infected bodies were cremated in the half dozen crematorium slots per camp.

Anyone can look at aerial photos of the camps and see that there were no massive coke/coal piles. Nor were there massive coal mines or coal trains. If the Germans wanted to gas people they would have used their massive chemical weapon stockpiles or they would have used ammonia/bleach of which the camps had plenty. The sole IG Farben chemical plant in 1942 apparently created all the zkylon. It's a joke on the face of it and falls apart immediately. We need to argue what they've done not the six gorillion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo

"Why did Hitler hate jews? Rabbi Yosef Tzvi ben Porat will explain to you"

>>140124480
In what countries is denial of the armenian genocide illegal?

>>140096337

Define: the Holocaust.

Only then can I answer your question.

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>>140125004
Armenia no doubt. He's full of shit, almost all of the holocaust laws (which were almost all passed in the 1990's) forbid any revisionism, period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

I still argue it's a waste of time and we should be arguing that they deserved full internment and removal from Europe for their crimes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmNmGEf-gSg

>>140125283
He's just another khazar posing as a european

>>140096709
What about mass graves, einsatzgruppen, poles and Ukrainian killers, etc? Not everyone went to auschwitz or was cremated

>>140107753

You should aknowledge that jews treat everyone else the way you think germans treated them.

>>140125908

Just go read the officials
holocaust story if you want to disprove it for yourself. It never happened. Stop shilling.

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>>140126577

Some of it did happen (i.e. internment)

Some of it did not (i.e. pic related)

>>140126688
"the blood ignited like fuel" Hahahaha what the fuck?

>>140113564
Audibly kek'd in public

>>140126914

Yes, that was stated at trials too. And accepted into evidence.

>>140126945
I'm sure one of these kikes on here can give us an "intelectual" breakdown on how blood ignites like fuel. Hahahaha

>>140126197
cmon mate, both sides treated each other like shit.

>>140127475

They are really good at storytelling, it's one of the things they excel at. Combine that with a propensity towards eliciting guilt, and you have a perfect storm of fake news.

My question to all the hall of cost line pushers is: Did the fags and gypsies get their own countries? Why did Jews benefit from it, and no other victims did?

>>140127988
From it the fag jews got three countries, the US, Israel and Germany. Now that they have Germany they essentially have the whole EU.

>>140127527

>letting a people live in your land and practise sin that mainly destroys and parasites your own people is treating them like shit.

Oh and then they tried to set up and train these people at running their own Nation. And still you have the fucking lies and schemes to siphon money and resources from the same people you originally started destroying. Yeah sure some people prolly hated them. Implying they treated each other the same is retarded.