Hiroshimoot Approved Meta-Thread: Are the mods going to move every general from /pol/ to /bant/ in order to kill them off, or just the ones they disapprove of ideologically? /nsg/ has always been on /pol/, for years now. Why would it ever belong on /bant/? No one there wants it, and you're giving into the "heckler's veto" on /pol/.
>>140076245 this. bant is a legitimately shitposting-dedicated board with no redeeming qualities and mindless anime spam. it's telling that most threads on there don't reach 50 posts. the kpop general is the best thread on that board
>>140075896 >on a website where mods have long stifled conversation about things that were just a tad too edgy >on a website where threads containing cp survive longer than threads about damning political conspiracies What the fuck do you expect? This is a shithole infested with SJW mods and is only good for shit-tier banter.
/nsg/ threads die well before the bump limit every time. It's mostly a bunch of old stormfags posting massive linkdumps and hitler pictures, threads usually have like 20 unique posters, half of those are trolls pretending to be commies to fuck around.
honestly the threads might actually be more successful on /bant/
>>140078297 >Cause that larp shit belongs on faceberg closed RP groups, even autismcatchers like /bant/ aren't bad enough for the obese neckbearded armchair ubermench Good point! Now they'll change their mind and become civic nationalists like you!
>>140075896 >thinking hiroshima cares about anything on this website besides how well are his '4chan passes' doing >thinking mods will listen >thinking 4chan isn't already reddit-like it all ended with the 2016 election >>140078371 that's because nobody larps as a commie in /nsg/ since he will be told to fuck off and it's not going to be fun for him, as he won't get any significant number of (you)s >>140078297 that
>>140078371 >i doubt even a single poster is from stormfront Because we never had anyone from stormfront, which is a website for people over 50 who dont into imageboards. JIDF meme. >they're not from here, get them goyim!
>>140075896 Because /nsg/ is not political anymore (if it ever was), there is no discourse going on there, just circlejerking "checked" "1488" "heil hitler" is all you will see there. And it usually never exceeds 40+ posters, tons of '50 posts by this ID' is common there. But yes, the mods do get overzealous with this sometimes.
>>140079116 >Because /nsg/ is not political anymore Bullshit. I was posting in it a couple of days ago and there was a huge debate between a few of us and 1 nazbol autismo that lasted the entire thread.
>>140078084 National Socialism is ILLEGAL in Germany, the leading country in the EU nor is it particularly welcome in the United States or Japan. Promoting it on pol is bad for the survival of 4chan in the present political climate. /nsg/ threads should be pruned IMO, moving them to /bant/ is a courtesy Nazis don't deserve. But so be it. Anything more you'd like to reply? I have more to say, newfag LARPer of no IRL political identity beyond memes. Nazism is not a real political identity, if it was they would be getting arrested and having their websites shut down. Oh wait...
>>140079373 One thread does not excuse all others. I have noticed many more being just circlejerks where they ad-hom or outright ignore questions and opinions they don't like. If that won't improve, it stays in /bant/
>>140079857 >Manager shows up, says there's nothing to see here >http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/138512646/#138513009 >after the post, the manager tried to backpedal a bit here: http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/138512646/#q138513874 >The rest of the internet may turn into safe-spaces and hugboxes but 4chan will not. >Suddenly, IRC chat is locked. Pic related
>>140075896 What really pisses me off is that the mods don't even have to manually ban someone for someone to get b&. I've caught on to the formula. Enough reports and you get autob& for 15 minutes while it escalates to the jannies. Enough jannie requests and you just get b& outright. No mod needed.
Why the fuck have moderators if moderation isn't even required? Enough random anonymous users report you, you get autob& for 3 days before an actual moderator can come in, review your case, and reverse the automatic ban? It's guilty until proven innocent at this point. For fuck's sake. And this isn't even talking about the lebbit mods Hiroshimoot brought in when he bought the place. I hadn't been b& one single time for over a decade when the little girl was running this place. Since Hiro and his shitty team took over I've been b& like half a dozen times for inane bullshit. All I ask is that the fucking mods abide by their own god damn sticky. They want to make this board /b/ 2.0 apparently.
>>140080028 So? Remake it until they take the hint and fuck off.
They know they can't do shit to anyone who knows the mods have no power and they fucking know it. It's why they've been powertripping worse and worse, because they aren't getting the same high they used to when they ban people or take a shit on the users. When people can just evade the ban and thumb their noses at them, it drives them nuts and they act out.
>>140080159 Somehow, they think that many anons are too dumb to notice when they've done it, so they won't immediately realize a mod is being a faggot. Of course, anyone even mildly savvy will instantly know what's up, so in the end they've outed themselves just as hard as if they'd just 404'd the thread outright.
>>140080481 Used to be that mods were Moot's personal acquaintances, who knows where the current batch of faggots is from, or how many of the old mods are left.
This move: >>>/bant/2034555 appears to have been a misunderstanding. I have instructed mods not to move such threads in the future, as national socialism is clearly a political topic. However, I would encourage posters to post more original content and less copypasta & image dumps.
Also please keep in mind that /bant/ was created to house off-topic non-political content that routinely gets posted on /pol/. Do not post threads on /pol/ that are not directly about politics or current events. Such threads will be moved to /bant/ or other appropriate boards. While this particular move was in error, we will continue to move threads that do not belong on /pol/ to other boards. /pol/ needs to stay focused on politics and current events and posting unrelated threads dilutes /pol/'s content.
>>140081025 Are you going to start banning the daily Richard Spencer threads? It's always the same people. Almost nobody makes a thread about Spencer except for le pinhead posters, and people keep replying.
>>140075896 Nsg was always shit tier. None of you retards could even define what it is without resorting to meme shit like "le based hitter did nothing wrong" and never once could you defend it as your grasp of actual history and the economics of NS states was abysmal. You all came off as shitty larping niggers every thread.
>>140081025 /pol/ would have been a better place if you would actually instruct mods to take a look in threads that are usually bait and/or shill pasta threads as these are ignored as hell because how easy it is to make it seem "quality" by only looking at it once and not realizing it was made to slide other threads or even attempt to bait users to get (you)s.threads (even if they are political) that were intended to be a shitpost should be taken cared off.
make mods look in threads carefully and take their time to identify it as an actual quality or shitpost bait thread,it's not that hard,just look how OP responds to people or even if OP doesn't respond at all and thus "1 post by this id" usually tells us it was intended to be bait or a slide thread.
>>140081324 National socialism is basically the nation for the people,it creates the best and most efficient sistem in order to take care and further improve the respective nation.It stands at the fringe between capitalim and communism borrowing heavily from both of them. If you were slightly educated you would know that national socialism is basically german fascism,you should also read on fascism.
>>140081025 Well I'm glad meta threads are actually being monitored by mods or mod managers at least. Your reply is appreciated, even if I complained about janitors, moderators, and all 4chan management.
Still though, as a kind tip: please instruct your subordinates to abide by the sticky that has been there for years. >>124205675
There is so much off-topic discussion that occurs here, it seriously feels like /b/ 2.0. I know you're limited on man-power but like a week of hard crackdown on not-politics related threads will instill a sense of power in those people who spam /b/-tier off topic BS.
>>140081025 Okay, but I still think the mods are not doing anywhere near a good job, with some just being outright malicious in their mishandling of their duties and abuse of their power.
Maybe some of you are alright, and actually care about the site, but to a user like myself, it really looks like many do not care about the boards, or their users, and instead just get off on being in a position of power, like any other forum. Case in point: /d/. /d/'s had a long history with mod disrespect and fucking over its users but the recent purge of OC was just outrageous and stinks of unmitigated hateboner against the board and its users.
>>140081025 >more original content in /nsg/ Like what? Why is original content so important to you people? We all know exactly what your mods/janitors think of this board and what their political views align with, why would they care about the quality of posts here? Like, are you really trying to imply this mod did it to improve the quality of the board? Top shekel m8ey.
>>140081465 You niggers never could even think about how Hitlers implementation was garbage and unsustainable - foodstuff production went down every year until Barbarossa occurred and then quickly went back down once Ukraine became an active front.
Instead you dumb stormkikes cry about how everything is "le Jews" like good little unthinking goyim, then proceeding to go off on da evil Jews, a nice little kikeish misdirection tactic that you fucks eat up. Nothing of merit is ever posted in nsg threads and its routinely the same dozen or so shits every thread posting. At least the communist generals have the unintentional humor of watching leftists being confronted with their own cognitive dissonance and seeing them try to rationalize how Marx contradicts himself in the space of a single page.
>>140081721 >thinks national socialism is just German fascism >cannot even point to the natsoc ideas out into practice worldwide >thinks it's the most efficient simply because it's le based natsoc >tells others to get educated
This is the key problem with nsg - you all are pseudo intellectuals that think posting graphs and images is a way to get around actually knowing your material.
>>140079456 I'm not even reading replies. /nsg/ was no issue before but after Charlottesville, it's obvious that National Socialists are radicalized, someone was actually murdered that day. And these people were radicalized on internet sites that now include pol. In fact, pol is NatSoc primary forum since the others have been shut down. Just a prank, bro? Not anymore. This has gone beyond memes and internet operators are bearing the responsibility now. NeoNazis whether LARPers or not need to be censured though not censored and I think /bant/ is a good solution. Perhaps in months or in a year if pol has not been adversely affected from the new influx of Stormfags who don't have websites anymore, then perhaps it can be reversed. If the situation gets worse, then their propaganda fronts should be pruned with prejudice. Let them see if they can control themselves. But I doubt it, even threads on /g/ speak of Jewish conspiracies nowadays.
>>140075896 I can see a case for some of the removals , specifically the dolphin rape thread from a few days ago (you should have sent it to /d/ instead, lel), but I think that overall the mods are getting a little slap-happy with moving threads
>>140075896 Hey, my friend, I think you selected an obsolete flag for your country by accident. You know they changed they flag right. It's ok, buddy; I've got your back with the updated one right here.
>>140082605 >thinks national socialism is just German fascism Not even worth answering to >cannot even point to the natsoc ideas out into practice worldwide If here you refer as in to how one would apply this sistem today than its simple,forming higly militaristic,racially and ethnically homogenous societies.There are 1mil and 1 differennt policies that could be implemeted and each would be different acoording to the respective country,its needs and its resources.That is the beauty of fascism,its higly adaptable. >thinks it's the most efficient simply because it's le based natsoc How i think about it is simple put communist Germany next to fascist and capitalist Germany.In a life and death war which will,i think that with equal poulation numbers we all know the answer to that question,hence the sistem that makes your country the strongest it can be its the most efficient. >tells others to get educated.This is the key problem with nsg - you all are pseudo intellectuals that think posting graphs and images is a way to get around actually knowing your material. So you were told to go read on it and you didnt want to,you want shallow and effortless discussion. Here get educated,you should know at least this much about fascism
>>140075896 The NatSoc and White Nationalist types trouble me greatly, but not as much as their banishment to 4chan's ghetto. More than any place I know, /pol embodies the spirit of free speech. Neither the Commies, White Nationalists, Socialists, or Anarchists should be driven from the board as their very presence establishes our value of free and open debate.
>>140081721 >explainer of National Socialism that gets more ridiculous and rose-tinted as you read, the image might as well have a red gradient applied to it >"ultimate responsibility lies in one man, the leader (Fuhrer), to make ultimate decisions. Should those decisions turn out to be made in error, then he must accept responsibility for these errors and hand over his power to a more capable person."
God wins. What kind words for things that never happened.
>>140083843 >Maybe it's those who accuse those who accuse others being shariahblue that are shariahblue ? Maybe so chief, let that sink in. Or maybe Shariablue was never even on /pol/ to begin with, maybe /pol/ doesn't have anyone that could have been "converted" to vote Clinton/Democrap, so no one would have ever paid to have them shill here -- and you were all taken for a ruse because you're all >>>/r/thedonald tier retards who fucking believe anything without proof first. Can you find proof Shariablue was ever here? >inb4 an article said they shilled on lebbit Well, that's your first mistake, this isn't rebbit, and you need to go back there.
>>140083463 >>140083680 What about communism general? A general which started in its current incarnation on the 5th of December 2016 as an obvious leftypol raid which now has over 1000 threads in the archive.
i'd unironically say that /lit/ would be the most fitting place for religious threads. just because it's the only board with the correct amount of navel gazing really needed to discuss that sort of thing.
>>140084445 >i'd unironically say that /lit/ would be the most fitting place for religious threads. I would agree if the religious thread was primarily theology focused, but the earliest form of politics in the Western world was religious. Even going back to Rome, the priestly class were a political force.
>>140084371 Now that's hard to identify,it first started as what you said but now you can't really know if it's intentions are serious or not. this makes mods hard to decide on and they usually leave it alone.
>>140084371 I don't really care for any general because they all quickly turn into cancer, but if the mods are allowing other shit to stay, a communism general should be allowed to stay as well. /pol/ isn't a hugbox for one set of political beliefs to only be allowed here. If you don't like people making threads you don't like, you honestly would be better off staying on plebbit.
>>140084371 Communism general are old as shit, to be completely honest. Only retards believe /pol/ is a neo nazi board, it's a political board, you can discuss communism obviously. Sure it was probably raided by "leftypol", but just "leftypol" proves the need for the left to have a hugbox, or they'd just be /pol/ and continue being BTFO on a daily basis like they were before.
>>140084735 Still hiding your flag ? What's the problem ?
>>140085116 I'm shilling because I see nothing wrong with people discussing freely even if it's something I don't agree with ? Yeah I'm probably a huge shill then. Oh, and the archive isn't complete, it went down several times and it's not an archive since the creation of /pol/. I don't know what's the oldest posts on the archive, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean they're the oldest post about the topic here. I'm pathetic because I want to defeat communists with arguments rather than routing them out to their own board so /pol/ ? I just don't want /pol/ to be a safe space one way or another. I'm pathetic because I try having a bit of integrity regarding free speech ? I plead guilty then.
>>140085616 Those threads are nothing but shitposting and sliding and if you can't tell that they serve no use other than shitting up the board then you're either incredibly new or just a shill. >im so virtuous because i let leftyshills and shitposters shit up the board Yeah ok man, keep fighting the good fight against insincere cunts that don't give a fuck about anything other than shitting up /pol/.
>>140086766 I'm very aware of this, but it's a recent trend. Doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to discuss the topic on a politic board. I come here for free speech because in my country I can't express my political opinion. Even if it's because of ambiant leftist in my country, it doesn't mean I have to be petty and want to do the same to them. THEY're the bad guys oppressing others, not the opposite way.
Don't get me wrong I'm not defending shills, I'm defending other anons who would genuinely discuss communism or leftism for a reason or another. I think it's good to point at shills and uncover them, but if it reach the point where you call anybody who doesn't agree with you a "shill", it's not something to be proud of.
>>140087418 At this point, it would be a good thing if there were 3 /pol/, regular /pol/ for normal people, and lefty/righty /pol/ for snowflakes who can't take a discussion. I mean, it's obvious people don't come here to discuss anymore, but to reinforce their opinion. It sort of kills the point of /pol/.
>lefty/righty /pol/ for snowflakes who can't take a discussion
that's what 16/2chan is for
>it's obvious people don't come here to discuss anymore, but to reinforce their opinion
that's what generals do, everyone who agrees with each other congregates to one thread and creates echochambers. they are magnets for tripfags and reddit cancer and should be purged with extreme prejudice
>>140088076 I wasn't really serious about lefty/righty /pol/, it would be sad if it went to that point. But yeah, you're probably right about generals and their effects on discussions. Too bad for good generals. I miss christian generals, to be frank. They were cool and since there is no religious board they sort of fit here. Well, if it means no more faggotry that's a sacrifice I would do.
>someone hit my car so i murdered a different person
you have the brain of a nigger you know that right that kid is gonna get life for a hate crime and that chick did more damage to your political views in the eyes of normies than everyone here doing the opposite could ever do to sway them and all she had to do was be to fat to get the fuck out of the way
>>140087057 The time for discussion is over. This has been "discussed" for 70+ years and what has it achieved? Absolutely nothing. This is a cultural/political war for the future and we are the leading opposition to the Marxists with considerable influence. Since the election they have ramped up their efforts here as they're losing this fight, now they are trying to shut us out from the internet completely, and you want us to just sit here and have a little talk, maybe hear them out and convince them they're wrong? Fuck off, they will never listen and many are paid to push their agendas here. "Tolerant" cucks like you are to blame for the state we are in.
No anon, they don't move generals to kill them off they just immediately archive every god damned thread to kill them off. I mean what, the shilling has become so far gone with this board anything that isn't a "Happening" thread is just archived and removed? If anything just turn /bant/ into leftypol and be done with it, take all them shills and commies off our board.
>>140090030 Threads are created so fast on /pol/ that if your thread doesn't get replies it falls off the last page and gets archived automatically. It's not a conspiracy, it's just that your thread wasn't interesting and /pol/ has fuckloads of traffic which means threads get created extremely quickly. Hundreds of new threads per hour.
>>140090810 P(Correct Number | Busy Signal) = P(Busy Signal | Correct Number) * P(Correct Number) / P(Busy Signal) P(Correct Number | Busy Signal) = 0.01 * 0.5 / 0.01 P(Correct Number | Busy Signal) = 0.5 Intuitively, because P(Correct Number) is completely independent of P(Busy Signal), we get no new information about the phone number by knowing that the line is busy.
>>140090364 Haven't the mods got on top of the interracial trolling, for the most part? I remember early this year, you literally could not look at the first 20 threads on the catalogue without seeing a blacked thread. Now I barely see one all day.
>>140092473 Not necessarily. Shills change tactics from time to time. They used to spam polls and sentiments during the election which were blatantly false, and currently they're shilling against white women while begging to hear from us about feminism just so they can 'educate us on the truth'.
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