Hammock time.
Direct all hammock related questions here.
Post your set up.
Ask questions.
This isnt the place to say you think tents are better than hammocks. They both have their place, and everyone can use what they like. Remember, this is a happy hammock thread.
>>14424
I've only used a sleeping bag inside a hammock for insulation. Is it worth it to get an underquilt?
>>14425
def get a mat. I use a self inflatable one and it works wonders. Always insulate your back!
>>14425
If you're serious about hammocking, then yes.
They aren't cheap, but they're worth it. If you don't use a hammock often, a pad will work alright.
Regardless, for colder temps, under insulation is essential.
Just bought an ENO Guardian SL. Should be arriving in the mail soon.
Did I fuck up?
>>14428
is that the bug net thing? I bought one and tested it out recently, it's pretty great. Folds up easily and fits in the little pouch. Only downside is that it took a while to figure out the best way to attach it to the line my hammock was hanging from, and that the storage bag is not attached to the net itself, so you have to keep track of it. Otherwise it's totally worth the money and seems very high quality.
Do you guys every take piss bottles into your hammock with you? Whenever I get in for the night It's a way bigger hassle to get out when you need to piss than it feels like is worth it. I'm thinking about making piss bottles a standard addition to my pack.
>>14429
cut back on the liquids drinking, having to piss in a bottle because you can't stop drinking from your bottle is sad. But handing from a rope in the air, surrounded by insulations of some sort from the elements IS COMFY!!! Too bad anything needed besides trees makes this alot of weight in addition. Those hammock/tents are king if they are high quality and reinforced. DONT DEPEND ON ONLY ONE OR TWO OBJECTS FOR LIFE?COMFORT?EVERYTHING!!!!!
>>14429
Yeah it's the smaller of the two bugnets that ENO has. Not including the one with the insect shield. (What a joke.)
I figured reaching over my head to undo the drawstring won't be the hardest thing in the world, plus I'm not too claustrophobic or anything. I also didn't want anything dragging along the ground either due to stretch.
Looking to fix that with some better webbing.
>>14429
Last time I camped it was like 25 degrees, and I had a belly full of whiskey. I had to pee like 4 times in the night. I just rolled over, pulled my sausage out, and peed out of the hammock. I usually always get up to pee, but just said fuck it that night.
>>14432
Pic of what I peed out of all night
>>14432
Honestly, I can't wait to try this the next time I go camping.
>>14432
Did you get piss on the hammock?
I'm looking at Snugpak for their jungle hammock with net. Most likely picking up some of their sleep system, under and over quilts too.
But my brain tells me ditch the Snugpak hammock and invest in a Warbonnet XLC blackbird.
Does anyone know if Snugpak makes decent gear? I have time to pick my purchases out but buy once cry once methodology is better suited when it comes to quality and durability.
>>14436
Hammock shit resells for like 75% of RRP every fucking time. If you arent comfy af sell that bitch and go for the warbonnet
That's what I did. Started with a Hammock Bliss Sky Bed Bug Free (lol). It was ok. Too short for me.
Now i'm warbonnet ridgerunner mr
>>14424
Always loved hammocks, just started getting into using them for camping about a year ago. Upgradeded to an ENO Sub7 a few weeks ago all love how light it is.
I mostly camp in Florida, and all that airflow over and underneath just feels so damn nice. What would everyone reccomend for a nice lightweight rain fly? Right now I'm just using a tarp and its ok, just heavier than it needs to be and doesn't breathe very well.
The bugs are a bit of a bitch, but if it isn't super windy, a thermacell works. Beside netting any other advice? Not big into netting,
>>14435
Surprisingly no, but I was drunk so I wouldn't have cared anyways.
>>14438
The ENO sub7 is a pretty bad hammock. No offense at all, it's just way too short. It's not even 9 feet long, which would be considered by most to be a kids hammock. Actually, most kids hammocks are 9 feet long.
The sub7 is light, but thats only because it's so short. They made a light hammock by taking a regular length hammock and cutting off a few feet.
Upgrade to a longer hammock and you'll be amazed at the increase in comfort. An 11 foot hammock will really help.
For example, a 1.0 Dutchware Hammock that's 11 feet long, including a ridgeline, dual knotty mods, AND suspenion only weight 11.5 oz.
As for a tarp, it depends on your budget. A great cheap option is a Yukon Outfitters Walkabout Rainfly, it's about $30, I have one and it's nice for the price. For more coverage, the Hennessy Hex tarp is good for $60. If you want to save some weight and still have more coverage, the Wilderness Logics tadpole is nice. It's about $100.
>>14436
Do you seriously carry a gun around with you? What kind of fucking pussy are you? Americans are so fucking pathetic.
>>14440
I have one and I see what you mean. I am only 5'9" so it's not that bad but it's no tent or bed either. One thing I have found works well with the short hammock is running the hammock rope out the bottom of the sleeping bag so that it acts as a sleeve over the outside of the bag. No underquilt needed.
>>14436
Blackbird is identified as the most comfy asym hang.
The snug jungle does not look like an asym. Their quilts look nice, the jungle blanket woobie is well liked.
>>14442
This is called a peapod, and a lot of people have good results running a sleeping bag that way.
First time using this.
Gonna ditch the rain cover and switch it for a tarp.
>>14441
Nice b8
>>14445
Tarp would definitely be more practical but the top cover would be nice to keep some warmth inside the hammock.
So what do you hammock campers do if there are no trees or rock creations around to hang off of, like in a desert or open prairie? I want to get into backpacking and am interested in a shelter system. Convince me to go hammock and rid me of worries.
>>14448
Well you're fucked unless you bring some sort of strong poles to use in place of trees/rocks/whatever.
Research where you're going and figure out if it's suitable for a hammock. If you mainly hike in flat, treeless places a hammock isn't going to work. You could go the bivy route if you're tired of lugging a tent around.
>>14449
Would trekking poles be able to support the weight of and adult male, 200 lbs and the hammock setup? Or is that based on how you lay out your lines and rope?
>>14450
I don't own or know much about trekking poles, but I would assume no, it's not going to cut it.
you need to either bring strong wooden beams or build some sort of cradle rig to support the weight. Both of these options are heavy as fuck, so unless you're car camping I don't think it will be viable.
>>14445
>camping in the snow
I hope I can do this at least once in my life before I die
t. Australia
>>14450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kPvSn5_T58
>>14450
My trekking poles support me at 6'3 tall and 195 pounds
>>14454
That's quite impressive. Aluminum or carbon fiber?
>>14436
>cz75 compact
my nigga
Got the full size and it fits like a glove. Very solid and snug hand gun.
>>14450
Look at the handy hammock stand, uses trekking poles to set up a hammock.
To be honest though, in some areas, a tent just simply works better. I'm anot avid hammock user, and I haven't slept in a tent in years. However if I lived somewhere other than the northeast USA where trees are literally everywhere, I'd consider a tent.
>>14455
Carbon fibre, my brother is about the same size and his are aluminium. No stress marks on either.
>>14456
/k/ please go you have your own board for CHRIST SAKE.
New to hammock camping, can I get some thoughts/opinions on this hammock?
twisted-root-big-mozzi-hammock-4-colors-
It's on sale at woot.com, search the phrase above and first link is for woot.
>>14436
Recently purchased a hammock cocoon from snugpak. Tried it in 33°F weather for a hour when I got it, but took it out the other night when it was around the 50s. It's pretty warm.
What kind of knot setups do you guys use for your ridgelines? I finally got some shit that isn't paracord.
>>14462
Siberian hitch and an adjustable tautline.
>>14441
not everyone wants to be culturally enriched by wild hogs.
>>14463
Examples:
https://youtu.be/YG_-N4NiSlo
https://youtu.be/Llvnf5_j0EE
>>14460
They are ok. Good price, but a little short (prefer 11ft).
For a starter hammock, you could do a lot worse.
where can i get a nice 3season hammock in europe? Budget up to 200eur
Slept at my spot last night, didn't need to deploy tarp so I left it in the python.
Serious question, how many people here use continuous ridgelines for their setups? And how much line do you use for it?
>>14425
I use a cheapo closed cell foam pad under my bag, works like a charm
>>14469
A ridgeline is what makes gathered end hammocks comfortable... and is practically necessary for comfort in asym hangs.
10ft hammocks are 85-90'' inches of ridgeline.
>>14470
The hammock goes on the ridgeline too? I thought it was just the tarp.
>>14471
nevermind you are just asking about tarp rigging.
>>14468
did you make the python yourself?
>>14448
If i know im might have trouble finding trees i bring a pad and if i have to set up my tarp that i use with my hammock and sleep on the ground plus if its really cold the pad can be added to my hammock for extra warmth
Anyone tried the ENO ember 2 under quilt? They are $100 bucks. Outdoor vitals has one for 60, but it looks so short that your head would be un protected while using it.
>>14475
not worth the $100, save up and invest in a quality down uq which will actually keep you warm. ENO in general is bottom tier hammocking
>>14475
Yeah ember 2 sucks. It's heavy, isn't very warm, and is very expensive for what it is.
For $100 you can get an arrowhead equipment Jarbidge which will take you to 25 degrees, or for $45 you can get a snugpak underblanket that's good to about 32 degrees.
Just saw this, but today on amazon the Snugpak underblanket is $28.50
With 2 day prime shipping. Not sure if it will stay this price. Camelcamelcamel says it's the lowest price amazon has ever listed for it.
That's ridiculous for an underquilt.
I bought one at $45 and that was a great price for it. $28 is a steal.
You can get the underblanket, and add the hammock quilt, and for $65ish you'd have an underquilt and top quilt good for 32 degrees. Yes they're heavier for backpacking, but overall they will work great.
Not a shill, I use a 20 degree jacks r better set, but just thought I'd point this deal out.
>>14478
I might pick one of these up thanks. The snug pak is pretty good though quality and performance wise?
>>14478
Ended up ordering one, for 28 bucks its worth taking a chance. Thanks for the heads up.
>>14473
Nope
>>14479
I have one.
Got $28 it's amazing.
It's probably worth 3 times that.
I can't say it's as good as a cottage made Jarbidge, but that's $100 and not full length.
It's a bit big and a bit heavy but for $28 it's an absolute steal.
>>14479
$28 is amazing for an underquilt.
>>14424
Gotta say hammocks are for cucks.
Sorry but true.
>>14482
>>14483
I ended up getting one.
>>14484
pic related
>>14475
I actually have one of both. I think they're the same warmth (I sleep hot), but the Outdoor Vitals one is so much lighter and packs much smaller. It's also 100x easier to hang than the ENO is
I'm going camping somewhere with a lot of malaria and heavy rain. Keeping the mozzies off me is a huge fucking priority. I've got a permethrin-treated pop-up tent, but I'm considering a hammock because dry ground might also be hard to find.
What hammock would you recommend for a tropical environment? I think I'll use my old tarp/poncho to keep the rain off me.
Can mosquitos bite your ass through the bottom of a hammock?
I got a Chillax Double Hammock for Christmas, I told my senpai that I wanted to try Hammock camping and that's what I got. Anybody know anything about these hammocks? I haven't gotten to use it or even pull it out if it's bag yet because it's cold af here in WA and I haven't gone /out/
>>14484
Oh yeah honey let that nigger fuck you in my eno doublenest, ill be over here struggling with my chastity cage in my singlenest while i wait for you to sit your nigger cock ravaged semen dripping pussy on my face. Thats right baby hammocks are for cuckolds and only cuckolds
>>14487
Yes they can bite through most hammock fabric, but permethrin treatment takes care of this.
There are many jungle hammocks out there. Any with a bug net would work. If it rains alot, you NEED a good tarp. Just any old tarp may work, but you'll want good coverage so I'd suggest investing in a decent hammock specific tarp.
>>14490
thanks.
CamJam XT 500lb
Been hammocking nightly for many months now with no issues. Highly recommend.
Should I get pic related? I'm only going to be on Conservation sites so I'm not staying overnight.
>>14493
How long is it, how much money is that converted into real money?
>>14487
Jungle hammock refers to a double-bottom hammock.
Hennessey "classic" bottom-entry is praised for fooling following insects but only comes on single bottoms.
If you have an UQ or pad the double bottom isn't so necessary... double bottom is feature more for hot climes, 80+ degrees F at night.
>>14494
>What's the size?
10'6" x 6'6". I'm 6'4" so I assume that'll fit me.
>How much money is that converted to real money?
About $80.87. Shipping is up the ass in leafland so everything is always a bit more expensive than Freedomland.
>>14496
I have one like that, they're not bad, but waaaaaaaaay overpriced for what they are.
See if you can find a Wildhorn Outfitters hammock and straps on amazon. $50 (usa) for a hammock and straps to hang from.
>>14493
I have a Grand Trunk skeeter beater pro...I have only used it a few times, but it seems like a well made unit.
>>14436
Rob Ski is pretty based.
>>14467
Amazon? I don't know what a 3 season hammock would look like, the whole point is that they're super thin and easy to carry around. In colder weather you just need a thicker sleeping pad and a warmer sleeping bag to get through the night.
>>14467
Like >>14500 said, they are all basically the same...to make them usable all season you either need an under quilt or a closed cell foam mat on the inside otherwise you'll freeze your ass off literally.
Does anyone have any good recommendations for an affordable decent quality rain fly? I just use a regular 10x10 tarp right now but it is kind of bulky. It would be nice to have something that came in a stuff sack and would take up alot less room.
>>14501
Yukon Outfitters Walkabout Rainfly is nice. Sometimes it's on woot for like $17 with $5 shipping. It's like 30 or so on Amazon. It's a solid tarp. I've been using one for over a year.
It's not really meant for winter, since it's a diamond configuration, but it works great if you don't need to block a lot of wind.
The Hennessy Hex is also a very good cheap tarp, but is 2-3 times as expensive as a Yukon. It's a hex shape though so it will cover better.
>>14502
Thanks, I'll take a look at those.
>>14501
I was looking to buy thebluestone rain fly on amazon for like 50 bucks. It's not the lightest tarp or the cheapest but it does look pretty solid and offers great coverage.
It also comes with it's own carry sack, guylines, and adjusters.
What's y'all's opinion on trek light hammocks? How do they fit on a scale from blackbird to ENO?
https://www.treklightgear.com/
>>14505
Just a small step above ENO. They're nothing special.
>>14507
I can't really imagine there being a crazy amount of difference...I bought a Grandtrunk hammock because it was reasonable priced with a bugnet. I mean it is just nylon and paracord...I am sure alot of these companies probably get their raw materials from the same place. I kind of want to pick up one of these 20 dollar 400lbs hammocks from the big box store to see how well it holds up.
what about hennessy?
Have Jacks 'R' Better Hudson River Quilt already Temperature Rating: 25°-30° F (-4° C)
Want to buy a top or bottom quilt now to supplement it but can't decide what temperature, should I get a 20° top to make my winters perfectly comfortable, or a 35°- 40° quilt for summer use when Hudson River Quilt gets too hot?
>>14507
Nothing. I've taken mine on 63 nights worth of backpacking in the past year and have no issues with it at all
>>14510
which will net you more versatility? Do you camp more in the summertime or more in the winter? Are the winters cold enough to justify it? Do you feel cold enough in the summer to justify the other?
Is it possible for you to buy the summer one now and save up for the winter one before the next winter?
>>14507
ENO is definitely bottom of the scale.
They're extremely overpriced, and extremely short. Like weirdly short.
A typical hammock is 11ft, that's the standard in the hammock community for comfort. A short hammock would be 10ft, but shorter people sometimes use them.
An ENO is 9'4", which for most high quality hammock makers would be a kids hammock.
They're also like $70, which most high quality custom made hammocks you can get much cheaper. $70 will get you aneed 11ft Dutchware, custom made, with suspension for $70. Hammock and suspension together will be lighter than just the ENO hammock alone.
ENO has marketed itself well. They are sold everywhere, and college girls love them to hang on campus. As a camping hammock, among the hammock community, they are just not taken seriously.
A whole ENO setup will cost more than a high end hammock set up. It'll be heavier, less comfortable, and not as warm as a high quality hammock set up.
I understand the term "hammock community" sounds ridiculous. Pic related.
>>14510
I use a 20 degree Jacks r Better Sierra Sniveler up to temps of about 50. Above that I have a Costco down throw that I use.
Anyone use Enlightened Equipment quilts?
I'd like a quilt that can do for me on the ground and in the hammock too. Wondering if a regular will be too much in the hammock.
(fyi I've never slept in a hammock)
>>14515
You'd still need a pad or underquilt in the hammock. You can use almost any top quilt in a hammock or the ground.
i know everyone here is talking about hammocks in relation to camping, but I really just like chilling in mine and Im not much of a camper
I set it up outside on my porch and read, bring it with my kayaking and set it up on trees in nice secluded spots on the water front around the lake and hangout, etc. Shit is cash. Anyone else?
>>14516
Cheers. I was just wondering if having too big of a top quilt fucks it up and makes it a pain to sleep.
>>14518
Bigger quilt usually means better coverage over your shoulders. I find a quilt that's too long can be a pain though.
Many top quilts have loops sewn in to attach a pad to, like the Jacks R Better Sierra Sniveler quilts. I have one and use it in a hammock but would work on the ground well.
>>14518
For me, it depends on the season. I'm a very hot sleeper and as cool as 40 I find myself taking off my underquilt and by 45 I usually switch to just a fleece sleeping bag liner. Any hotter than 55 and I usually just sleep in the hammock with a thin sheet over top me
>>14517
Yeah I take mine with me to the beach sometimes, find some nice palm trees, and post up.
Recently bought a hammock to camp in just curious as to what angle I sleep at. some are saying set it up at a 30 degree others say make it taunt but it will pinch your shoulders.
>>14520
That's impressive lol... I slept in my hammock once without my underquilt using just a fleece bag liner...it got down to the low 50s. I was sweating my balls off topside and freezing my ass of on the bottom. Ended up stoking the fire and sleeping on the ground next to it...I'll never not take my underquilt again unless it is 65 or warmer at night.
>>14522
Whatever is comfortable for you, mine is pretty long and I normally go droopier than taunt and I can angle myself a little and still lay pretty flat. They are pretty easy to adjust so try a couple different configurations.
>>14523
I assume same rules from tent camping apply keeping the head side slightly higher than the side your feet are on
Now how about using your tent as a bivy in the case of no trees or support with a tarp over you? If I were to do so, what strength of material would be best?
>>14525
ignore tent, i meant hammock.
>>14524
Actually you want your feet end of the hammock to be at least 12 inches higher than your head end.
It sounds counter intuitive, but it helps position you in the hammock. Your body will always slide to the lowest point in the hammock. When the foot end is higher, it keeps your torso in the right spot, so you don't keep slowly sliding too far down in the hammock.
Since you'll be sliding towards the head end more, your feet end up being pretty level with your head.
>>14522
Definitely not taught. You want the hammock to sag.
>>14528
awesome thank you. I know this might trigger /out/ but I bought a eno as a entry level hammock to spring and summer camp in. I have a under quilt and a tarp on the way till the bugs come out then ill get a bug net.
>>14525
Any fabric for a hammock should be breathable, which isn't ideal for setting up on the ground unless you had a ground cloth. Any material would work I'm sure, but I'd go with a heavier weight fabric personally, like a 2.0 weight or heavier.
>>14529
What underquilt and tarp will you be using?
>>14531
The pro fly and the ember 2 underquilt .
>>14532
Awesome to see someone getting into hammock camping, but I would maybe reconsider the ENO stuff.
The Ember 2 is oddly shaped, quite heavy, and no rated for very cold temps. It's probably good for 40 degrees is all, and it's shaped so that a diagonal lay is hard. It's also $100 which is a lot for a quilt rated for 40 degrees.
You may way to consider returning it. The snugpak underblanket is well under half the price of the ember 2, and is rated for colder temps.
The profly is alright, but it's pretty expensive for what it is. A Hennessy Hex tarp is cheaper, bigger, and better made.
The ENO hammock is also extremely short, and way, WAY overpriced.
Again, it's awesome to see you get out there, and honestly the ENO stuff will work, it's just for the price of an ENO hammock, quilt, and tarp, you could have a custom made higher end hammock set up.
>>14424
Im near amazonas, warmth and moist wheather. A hammock like pic related its an advantage? The strips dont will rip my back?
>>14534
Those are good for relaxing in for a short while but not for sleeping.
>>14533
Unfortunately the snugpak underquilt is only available from a 3rd party on amazon right now and it is $60. I picked one up a couple weeks ago for $28 while amazon was still had them in stock, it was definitely a steal at that price.
>>14534
A nap and no more. Netted hammocks are awful.
>>14537
This belongs to /b/ |:v
>>14513
>>14440
Can't agree more with the Dutchware recommendation, I've had one for a year and a half and I love it. Super high quality for the price, and it's all custom / hand made. Dutch is a really good guy as well, when I put in my first order I asked if I could get rush shipping to use the hammock on a trip I was going on 3 days after the order, and he hooked me up for free. 10/10.
Hennessey makes great hammocks as well.
>>14537
>Rum Ham?
>>14523
What's crazy is I was more sweaty this weekend in GSMNP at 30-35 degrees with this setup than I think I've ever been while camping before. I slept naked and that's a 30 degree bag
>>14540
Some of that is not wearing a shirt. That type of material seems to make me sweat like crazy. I have to sleep in long sleeves.
>>14541
I don't think so; I ended up stripping down because I woke up sweating. By the end I had taken off just about everything and unzipped my bag
https://dutchwaregear.com/11ft-netless.html
Can someone help me navigate this? I'm looking to buy a new hammock, but this site is pretty shitty. What's the real difference between Hexon and Argon? Difference between whoopie sling and fixed ridgeline? What's the difference between the 3 types of suspension? I already have whoopie slings for my current hammock, so do I even need to buy one of those three options?
>>14543
>What's the real difference between Hexon and Argon?
Texture mostly
Difference between whoopie sling and fixed ridgeline?
Whoopie sling attaches hammock to a tree. A Ridgeline is a chord running from the head of the hammock to the tail to limit how far it can stretch to allow you to lay flatter inside it.
What's the difference between the 3 types of suspension?
The first two are the same except the length of the tree strap 4ft or 5ft. The second is a big as strap that you adjust hight from the buckle
I already have whoopie slings for my current hammock, so do I even need to buy one of those three options?
Without a suspension system added the ends are bound in wire so that you can add your own
>>14543
Hexon and Argon are similar, but have a slightly different feel. I only have a Hexon hammock, and I like the feel a lot. It's a nice material.
A fixed ridgeline is a cord that's set at 83% of the hammock length. It's very nice to have, and helps you keep the correct sag in the hammock. An adjustable ridgeline is similar, only you can change the length which changes the sag.
If you already have suspension, you don't need to order one.
All hammocks from Dutchware come just as a hammock with nothing else, nothing to gather the ends together. If you have whoopie slings already, you can use those to gather the ends. If you have other suspension, you might want to order 2 continuous loops, which are small loops of cord that will gather the ends, and make an attachment point on the hammock.
Dutch has videos of each of his suspension types on youtube. They're helpful.
If you're ordering a wide hammock, the knotty mod is nice. It uses a little shock cord to cinch the sides up so there isn't excess material flapping in the wind. It's even nice on a normal width hammock, but not quite as necessary as with the wider hammocks.
>>14424
How heavy is your hammock set up?
I just use a tarp tent.
>>14546
OP here, that pic is not my set up.
This is my set up. I don't have an accurate scale to weigh everything.
>>14468
I like this setup, please tell me about it.
Every time I read these threads you retards get me conviced I'm doing something wrong after I've proved to myself time and time again that what I do works just the way I want it to.
>>14549
How do you do it?
Ukfag here going on a roadtrip across US in the Summer. Basic plan is Boston -> New Orleans -> San Fran.
Whats my best idea for hammocks? Do I need mosquito nets, etc?
>>14549
Do it however it works for you. HYOH.
The stuff we post here though is usually because it's the most efficient, or best way of doing something. If you do things a different way it doesn't mean it's "wrong", it's just different.
>>14551
In Boston you may not need a mosquito net. In New Orleans you will literally die of blood loss from all the mosquitos that will eat you alive. They're the size of birds. Swamp mosquitos are insane.
If you're traveling across the US, remember much of the US does not have many trees. The farther east you are, the more trees for the most part. In the middle of the country there are miles and miles of Plains, and out west there's miles and miles of mountains.
I love hammocks, but they're not ideal for everywhere in the USA.
Remember, being from the UK you may not realize just how big the USA is. The brits I've talked to all make the same comment, they can't believe how big it is. You can drive for 5 or 6 hours and not even leave one state, let alone get across the USA (and that's driving across some of the smaller states).
>>14553
Thanks for the info man :)
>>14553
are hennessy hammocks any good? Interested in safari asym. I need a great weight capacity as I'm planning to pack my gf in there occasionally and therefore alot of space.
Any suggestions of other hammock models suited for my needs?
>>14556
Honestly, don't try to sleep 2 people in a hammock.
I know some people have, but they're probably a manlet with a 90lbs girlfriend that has the body of a 12 year old boy.
Unless you're literally child sized, 2 people just doesn't work. You continually are pressed together more and more as you both attempt to squeeze into the lowest point of the hammock slowly overnight. It may seem alright at first, and a nap is finw, but after about 4 hours, it's absolutely hell. I tried it once, NEVER again.
Hennessy is good, lots of people like them. It's an all in onevery system so it's pretty easy. If you don't want to sort out what tarp, hammock, and bug net you want, Hennessy takes care of it all. They're a reputable company too.
As for weight capacity though, many hammocks have a 300-500 lbs rating.
But please, just get 2 hammocks, you'll thank me later.
Ticket to the moon a most comfy hammock.
>>14424
Not been out with the hammock since last summer and have lost enough weight to be in rage fro my Hennessey a-sym explorer again. It's been so long sinc I've used it I was a bit sketchy about putting it up in a hurry (weather looked iffy before going out) so I opted for ye olde faithful DD camping hammock.
Spent the morning cozy af drinking birch sap coffee and listening to an audio book while the rain was coming down.... therapeutic as it gets.
>>14559
I spot a woobie
>>14560
>woobie
One of the most under rated and unheard of things in the UK. I love mine, fuck, even my wife has one of her own now.
I worked at a boy scout camp last summer and bought an ENO double nest on a friend's recommendation there, for use when not life-guarding. Don't regret it at all, very comfortable and made teaching kids how to not die on the waterfront bearable. Slept a few nights in it with an assortment of pads and found it to be very comfortable.
Now, since spring is coming soon, I'd really like to get into properly hammock camping. This thread has lead me to believe that ENO products might not necessarily be the way to go, but I've already got my doublenest and atlas straps, so they'll have to do for now until I have a better feel for what sort of upgrade I want, and the money to follow through. In the mean time, I really need a good underquilt. What do you recommend?
>>14562
Really depends on your budget, and what temp ranges you expect. Also, are you car camping, or are you backpacking? Makes a big difference in what quilt you get.
>>14563
Backpacking, and probably 30 degrees is how low I'm thinking. As for my budget, I'd rather not spend more than $200, but if all my decent options are above that I'll save up for a bit longer, then.
>>14424
anyone has experience or an opinion about the hennessy scout zip?
>>14564
Hammock gear
Loco Libre
Underground Quilts
Enlightened Equipment
Jacks R Better
All are great, and custom made, so it may take a month or 2 (even up to 4 months for Loco Libre). Jacks R Better ships within a day or 2, but are slightly more expensive, and only in one color. I use jacks r better quilts, they're great.
If you are on a budget, arrowhead equipment makes great synthetic quilts. They don't compress as well as down, but are half through price and you'd have it within a week.
Look at 3/4 quilts to save weight and cost, but you'll need a pad for under your feet. Some people like that, I personally like full length.
>>14565
scout is fine if you are 5'3'' or shorter
>>14567
Agreed, it is a very short hammock. It's really ideal as a kids hammock though.
>>14569
The hex has much more coverage, but also weighs more. It's definitely worth the upgrade if you're not counting ounces. It does however require 2 more stake out points, so there is a slightly longer set up time.
>>14484
Have fun getting cucked by rocky uneven terrain you dirty ground dweller.
>>14430
are you deranged? perhaps? or maybe you could try again
Do you guys think a 3/4 length under quilt is enough bottom-insulation in 50ish degree weather?
I am a super cold sleeper and have been freezing using an underpad. Also mine is super uncomfortable so I'm planning to make an underquilt. I would like it to be full length for warmth but I got meme'd into the bottom entry Hennessy fml.
>>14573
2QZQ
You can have them mod your Hennessy so it has a zipper entry. Well worth it.
You can use a full length with a bottom entry, just have to slide the quilt out of the way.
Many people use 3/4 length quilts at temps much lower than 50. People are using 3/4 quilts in sub zero temps. You just need to used a pad for your feet is all.
>>14511
what tarp is that, and how much does it weigh? Looks nice.
>>14575
7 ounce cuben fiber tarp from zpacks. It basically weighs nothing, so I bring it along on every trip regardless of if I'm tent or hammock camping. I couldn't be happier with it
http://zpacks.com/shelter/hammock_tarps.shtml
Can anyone give a rough r value/temp range for a DIY costco black diamond topquilt? It's 700 fp.
>>14577
Idk but fyi the fill power has nothing to do the temp rating. 700fp just means it has a good warmth:weight ratio. How much does it cost? I need more details
>>14578
The blanket is 60" by 70" ripstop with 1lb of 700 fp down
After making it it looks like there's going to be about an 1 inch loft, looking at the pictures of the guy who's pattern I'm going to follow
(http://www.exploreserac.com/make-underquilt-topquilt-6-steps/)
>>14579
The sewn through design in the limitation. 40 degrees would be the absolute lowest I could go with mine, but if the temps are expected below 50, I'd never bring it. It's really a summer quilt, but some people sleep hot and could be fine with it.
>>14448
flatbed trucks are <3
>>14581
Checked
Hammock gear is now offering an economy line of down quilts. Crazy prices on down underquilts and top quilts. Their site has more info.
Also, underground quilts (UGQ) has a huge sale on tarps now. As low as $90 for an 11ft Hex, $110 for an 11ft winter tarp with doors.
Just a heads up if someone needs high end hammock stuff for cheap. I'm trying to resist breaking down and buying more myself.
>>14445
That looks comfy as comfy can get desu
>>14528
why the fuck is this saved as a .gif?
im a fatasfatass, and im gonna be taking my kid camping, where can i get a hammock designed around the fact ive eaten myself into oblivion, but now want to climb back out?
>>14585
Because it's an image, and .gif is an image filetype.
>>14587
Tru dat
>>14430
Are you a schizophrenic? Or, did the drugs just take their toll? You sound very deranged.
I live in Florida and am interested in hammocks, what would a good option be for something lightweight and breathable? Also recommendations for a good bug net.
Do any of you own a DD hammock?
What is your thoughts?
>>14591
This picture triggers me
>>14581
Srsly lad?
Anons I am 195cm tall, not too heavy (less than 90kg) is a hammock a good idea? Are there some for tall people? am I going to be slouched like a banana?
Or shoudl I just get a tent? I am planning on upgrading. I have some money to blast on decent gear. Pic related a sexy tent that I want.
Should I get a hammock instead?
>>14595
Any 11 ft hammock will be plenty long enough for you. If you lay in a hammock correctly, then you won't ever be "like a banana".
>>14424
I want a hammock tent but I'm 6'3" and 280lb, so I'm worried that I'll end up with one not long enough or not strong enough. And I can't afford to spend silly money. Would a MilSurp one be best? Advicr pls.
Is there a hammock setup that weighs 15 ounces? Until one matches my tent weight, i'm not switching
>>14598
There are definitely ways to get 15 oz for a hammock, tarp, and suspension.
Hummingbird single hammock 5.2oz
Hummingbird suspension 2.3oz
Cuben Fiber Tarp 4.8oz
With that set up your just use your same sleeping pad and bag as you do in your tent.
Remember though, a hammock isn't about saving weight. It's about increasing comfort. If you are only trying to save weight, a tarp as a shelter is what you want. A hammock set up is really a tarp shelter that you have added a bed to.
Not everyone loves hammocks, but some people after using one will never sleep on the ground again.
It's pretty awesome to wake up in the morning in a hammock, and not have to crawl out of a tent on your hands and knees.
>>14598
What tent are you using thats under 1 lbs?
Bought a hennessy scout used for 25 bucks. Comfy as hell. Think I got a good deal /out/?
>>14601
They're really meant as a kids hammock... unless you're really short it's not really meant for adults.
>>14602
I'm 5'11 170lbs. Used it twice so far haven't really run into any problems yet.
>>14603
The height and weight limit is 5'8" and 150lbs according to Hennessey. They used to give them away with the purchase of an adult hammock from Hennessy. Not sure if they still do.
If it works for you then great, but you'll be blown away how much more comfortable an 11ft hammock is.
>>14604
I just bought a nemo. I'll bring both out will most likely just you my hammock to lounge or sleep out if its hot and nice out.
>>14547
What kind of underquilt you using, OP?
>>14597
Brumpfing for replies.
>>14606
I use a Jacks R Better Mt Washington 3