Anyone ever leave a gift or anything behind for the next hikers/campers to find? Every once in a while I'll leave a little gift for people to come across, last thing I left was a nice little Mora
>>1095305
Cairns tbf, I hope people after me enjoy the effort I put in them and get inspired to build their own
I shit right in the middle of the trail and leave a couple of leaves on top so that the next people passing step on it.
>>1095309
What are cairns, you faggot?
Going to Colorado in mid October to hike around in Rocky Mountain National Park and maybe attempt my first 14k (Mt Elbert). Any tips on gear or hiking in general for fall there?
How thick should my layers be? Am I fine with trail runners? How long does it take to acclimate to the altitude?
Coming from Florida.
>>1095058
Leadvilleanon here.
Elbert is one of our easier 14'ers. It is however very steep and prone to bad weather in the afternoon. You won't need a ton of clothes, but should have a water/wind-proof shell and sweatshirt and warm pants. Whatever shoes you're comfortable in will be fine.
You'll need to start hiking well before dawn to be off the mountain before the weather goes to shit (lightning, hail, snow, wind, whatever).
Coming from sea level it takes one or two weeks to acclimate, but the worst of it will pass in less than a week. Stay hydrated, that helps. Be aware of the symptoms of HAPE and HACE. People die here every year from the altitude. Not many, but some.
>>1095065
Thanks. I keep seeing Leadville on lists of where to stay, but Twin Lakes looks closer on the map. Is there any advantage between the cities? Was going to stay in Twin Lakes then take the south Elbert trailhead.
>>1095068
south elbert is much longer and less popular. But yeah, Twin Lakes is where you'll take off from there. There's not much lodging in Twin Lakes, it's a tiny little town with like 1 hotel and one gas station. Maybe a restaurant.
I usually hike the standard front route, it's much faster. Straight up the mountain. It takes off from Half Moon Creek where I was camped over the weekend. There's dispersed (free) camping all along Half Moon, and there's hundreds of campsites. Or if you love throwing money away there's also 2 Forest Service campgrounds on the same road near the Elbert and Massive trailheads.
Leadville is also fine if you want a hotel or B&B. We have something like 8 restaurants, 5 gas stations, 10 bars, 3 weed dispensaries. Not a big town but much larger than Twin Lakes.
Here's a list of things NOT to do on the mountain-
>http://www.aspentimes.com/news/man-who-died-on-capitol-peak-likely-chose-route-similar-to-aspen-couple/
Elbert is much safer than Capitol but we've had plenty of people die on the easy 14'ers as well.
How do I start a fire with these?
All the fire-making tutorials are about starting from wood, or starting from sparking rocks.
If I strike two random non-flint rocks together, I always get a flash which is localized to the rock surface. It's not a spark, but a flash of light which doesn't jump everywhere.
It seems to me that if you put tinder here, you could start a fire with literally any rocks lying on the ground.
>>1094967
>Get two good sized rocks and rough up their surfaces.
>Practice striking one rock worth the other at approximately 45 degrees.
>Douse your intended for area with gasoline (don't forget a healthy wrong of your clothes as well).
>Strike rocks at gasoline until the fire starts.
>Never come back with stupid fucking questions ever again.
Everyone wins.
>>1094972
There is no need to be upset
>>1094967
A shot of Chlorine Trifluoride will light 'em right up.
In the autumn I'm gonna go and wild camp solo for 2 or 3 days, probably in the Brecon Beacons; I want to use the time to practice and teach myself some outdoors skills - what do you suggest?
I've got some outdoors skills from army training, but not really any proper bushcraft stuff - what are skills I could teach myself with a few days outdoors alone? Definitely firelighting and practice navigation (including night nav), but what else? Also, any generally fun activities to do when solo camping?
>>1094810
I like trying to see wild animals, look for tracks/scat, dens,etc.
If you'll have cell phone signal, bring a battery pack and take pictures with your phone throughout the day. When you're at camp and the sun goes down, get cozy and upload pics to /out/. Post them in order and narrate it.
Then wait for inevitable spooky skinwalker comments and anons telling you not to worry about it.
Which reg OP?
Hey /out/, don't usually frequent here but I was looking for some opinions, I'm getting out of the military in 2 years and am looking to go to school in MT, whats the best 4 year degree (its free) to set me up for having a career where I can live in a cabin in the woods, maybe 30 mins from a small town?
Sounds like you want to be a forest ranger, botany is cooler =P
>>1094645
Idk, doesn't that mean living by national forest? Wouldn't be the cheapest cabin in a woods living id imagine.
What can ya do with a degree in botany? Right now I just signed up for an education degree focusing on history.
>>1094643
Depending on whether your "cabin in the woods" has broadband internet, an enterpreneurship degree (coupled with a lot of skill and talent, and a bit of luck) can make you a multimillionaire and set you up for life with a minimum of work. Otherwise, several Montana universities offer Forestry degrees.
Cabins on the eastern side of the Bighorns aren't too terrible on price, although cost of living is kind of middle of the road due to long drives for groceries and high fuel costs.
Hey /out/
I want you to talk me out of an idea that popped up in my head a few days ago.
It's gonna be a long read and pretty philosophical - sorry for that.
I still think /out/ is the right board for my thoughts. You will see why.
A few years ago I started to think about our world and all the little things that I
usually did not think too much about.
Like relationships, religion, politics, our eating habits, etc.
And I started to realize how wrong most of our practices are.
We have basically no morals, no traditions worth taking up.
Man and woman do not respect each other any more because the western world encourages
everyone to be the same instead of appreciating the differences.
Our (mostly chirstian) religion is a joke and every child can tell
you that the bible is a book full of lies. We buy meat at a daily basis in the super market
and really do not appreciate the life that was lost because we want our food to taste good.
Especially the last point keeps nagging at me because I am in general a person that values life very much.
I could go vegeterian but I can also see how meat is an integral part of our society and in general
the reason why we were able to develop like we did.
I am cool with eating meat, it just annoys me how we are doing it. It is so very respectless and casual.
[cont.]
[cont.]
You should at least take the life of the animal you are eating yourself to justify eating its meat
(or let someone very close do it and prepare the meat together).
That's why I wanted to get into hunting and only eat what I shoot myself.
Since I also think that guns are cheap as fuck (no skill required, just pull the trigger) I wanted to
get into bow hunting which is still kinda cheap, but less than guns. (I am also very interested in knife hunting)
The problem here in Germany is that you pay mad amounts of money to get a hunting license and I honestly
disagree with the fact that we need a license at all. It should be birthright to hunt.
Thats why I want to learn everything I need to myself (I have teaching material from a friend who is a hunter),
practice (moving) target shooting with a bow and just start hunting. So basically I would become a poacher.
Tell me what you think about this /out/. I am on the brink of doing it.
All power to you OP, but your analysis of modern life is a bit childish. Do you really think gender equality is a genuine obstacle to your happiness?
I think your beliefs are silly, have fun getting arrested.
Hi /out/
A guy from work offered to join him on a hiking trip to South America - he's organising the thing, but he wanted company. He proposed Patagonia, specifically south Argentina, and I accepted.
Problem is, I've not hiked much. I mean dad used to take me out when I was little, but nothing beyond that. I'm thinking to buy hiking gear right now. Money is a non-issue, I haven't had a vacation in a few years so buying good stuff for the trip is fine.
What do I get?
>>1094585
>Go to rei
>Tell salesman you need him to /out/fit you
>Money is a non-issue
>Say no more, senpai
>>1094594
Hey, I live in Fuckhole, Lithuania. There isn't a rei or any similar /out/ stuff (maybe except 1-2 that are located fuck knows where, and customer service in this country is worthless). I'm going to be shopping online, as I have for like the last 5 years for everything except groceries.
>>1094602
>Shopping online
Trekkkin is your friend, then.
How long is your trip? Tent, hammock, tarp camping? What gear do you own already? What food are you packing?
There isn't a single recommendation to every /out/ist here, people need to know more details.
Gf packed up the sleeping bags, mats, the clothes, the electronics, the tent, the food, the garbage, the tarp....
She packed up the entire thing.
Is this normal or do i have the best gf?
Shes just excited to get home so she can get fucked by Tyrone.
Hippety, hoppety, women are property.
What do you say to THIS then?
>If you want something done right do it yourself
probably thinks you're useless
Hope the maggot that started this gets burnt at the stake. I just drove through this shit tonight. I finally know how Californians and Canadians feel.
Any other Northwesterners dealing with these feels?
>http://www.oregonlive.com/wildfires/index.ssf/2017/09/i-84_closed_more_evacuations_o.html
>http://www.kgw.com/news/local/rescue-effort-underway-for-hikers-trapped-by-eagle-creek-fire/470354816
Do these fires ever happen in other places with lots of trees and warm climates like Mexico?
>>1094421
these things happen anyway if the conditions are right.
>>1094428
What part of Mexico? The only parts I can think of are desert or rainforest
When looking for land in Maine to live on and farm/garden on what do I want to watch out for? What should I know? Any Mainers in /out/?
Water. And make sure you know how water rights work in Maine. That's where 90% of farmers/homesteaders fuck up.
It's particularly relevant to Maine because Nestle has been leaning on the state government to open up the groundwater to bulk collection.
>>1094131
Well should I do it in another state? I have my heart set on Maine but if another US state is much better for this then I might chance my mind. It has to be costal and cold climate.
>>1094131
What features should I look for in a property to ensure longterm water security? Is there some third party I can bring along to inspect the site?
Not OP but very similar situation
Who here collects wild food in bulk?
This Autumn I've collected:
30kg~ of blackberries to freeze for juice, wine, jam and pies.
3kg~ of raspberries to freeze as is.
5kg~ of elderberries to freeze for juice
1kg~ of sloes for sloe gin
2kg~ of hazel nuts to eat
2kg~ of sweet chestnuts to roast at christmas
15kg~ of crab apples for pies and going to attempt a cider.
My only disappointment is I haven't found any wild strawberries this year.
Where do you live? Anyone know where this kind of foraging is possible in the US?
I recolect the fruit of the mezquite.
I make flour out of it.
But nothing like 30kg, this year I recolected like 5kg.
Does anyone eat the same thing before heading out on a hike? I almost always eat a bowl of instant Quaker oatmeal with a big scoop of Skippy Creamy peanut butter and a big squeeze of Clover honey. I have a cup of Green Mountain Kurig coffee with regular milk and on the drive to the trail get a 16 oz vanilla latte. When I pull up to the trailhead I drink a can of C20 Coconut water. The reason why I gave the name brands because I know it's full of sugar.
I am wondering if anyone else does this is because if I don't I know I will gas out or get fatigued. I'm starting to wonder if it's just in my head or is there something in this bad breakfast that could help.
I try to pack in a bit extra food for my dayhikes (9+ hours, 2500 feet elevation change):
Oatmeal packet
Egg
Peanut butter crackers
Apple
Banana
1/4 small Ham steak
Grapes
Water
During the hike I have two Clif bars and 3 liters of water on my back. Plan to start including peanut butter crackers.
Lunch is some kind of sub sandwich (Jimmy John's beach club with extra meat on french bread) that I put in a cooler in the car with freezer packs on the drive to the trailhead.
Also some chips. Doritos really hit the spot around 1pm.
Electrolyte tabs and glucose tabs for emergencies but never needed them.
After the dayhike, I order dinner while I take a shower, something like steak, mashed potatoes, and some veggies.
You'll burn something like 4000cal on a hike like I do. This isn't accurate and not technically true but it should give you an idea of what kind of energy you need to be consuming as well.
Remember you don't JUST want sugar, you need the complex carbs that break down slow, protein, sugar, potassium, and so on to keep you going.
Flapjacks, eggs, and bacon before the hike and then Maccas after the hike. I'm not fat or anything, I never eat shit like that.
How'd he do it /out/?
>>1093282
Who gives a fuck. GoT is a shit show.
>>1093282
i hate him. iam from altschauerberg, GER
>>1093313
Lol
>Joe ‘Stringbean’ McConaughy, a well-known speed hiker, set a new record on the Appalachian Trail today. He hiked the 2,190-mile route in an unofficial fastest known time (FKT) of 45 days, 12 hours, 15 minutes.
>>1092415
Jesus that's flying.
>>1092415
Interested to hear what he carries along. It says self supported but I'm guessing he has food drops?
>>1092426
Everyone has food drops. You can't carry 60+ days of food with you.
Why are you not buying Patagonia clothes instead of other brands? You are literally contributing to a better environment by doing so.
because i don't like spending $130 dollars on a fleece coat
Because buying shit from big multinational corporations is a scam.
I mean I have patagucci gear too but I was young and naive.
>>1092375
Buy one used then. That's the whole point of Worn Wear.